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May 16, 2025 100 mins
Few individuals have shaped modern media, philanthropy, and cultural advocacy as profoundly as Oprah Winfrey. In this special episode of The Joseph Bonner Show, we explore the enduring legacy of Oprah—her transformative impact on entertainment, education, and social justice—and how her journey continues to inspire generations of innovators, educators, and changemakers.  

From overcoming adversity in her youth to becoming the Queen of All Media, Oprah’s career is defined by her commitment to amplifying voices and fostering meaningful conversations on mental health, race, gender equality, and personal growth. Her 25-year reign on The Oprah Winfrey Show revolutionized daytime television, making space for stories of resilience, healing, and empowerment that would otherwise remain unheard.  

Joining us in this episode are Verdell Osborne, Amdalat Jinadu, and RadCareNETUSA Inc., three pioneering leaders whose work reflects Oprah’s commitment to equity, access, and transformation.  
  • - Verdell Osborne, a speaker, author, and life coach, shares her powerful journey of self-discovery and legacy-building. As a contributor to the award-winning anthology Centering Our Voices, she found the courage to tell her own story—one deeply connected to her grandmother’s historic civic group, the Margaret Barnes Civic Group, and the heroic women of the 6888th Central Postal Directory Battalion. She speaks on the importance of mentorship, encouraging the next generation to embrace their purpose, push past obstacles, and never stop dreaming.  

  • - Amdalat Jinadu, CEO & Co-Founder of La Latch Limited and Natalli, takes us on a journey of resilience in healthcare. After facing a traumatic post-labor spinal cord injury and systemic neglect, she turned hardship into action, creating innovative perinatal and early health solutions to protect women and families worldwide. Her story—marked by personal loss and determination—mirrors Oprah’s own path of strength and advocacy in the face of adversity.  

  • - RadCareNETUSA Inc. introduces the revolutionary RadCard™ Medical Passport and Cloud Solution, changing the way healthcare professionals and patients manage critical medical records. By ensuring instant access, privacy, and security, this technology is setting a new standard in medical preparedness and emergency care.  

Through personal narratives, groundbreaking solutions, and reflections on Oprah Winfrey’s global influence, this episode bridges the past, present, and future of storytelling, healthcare, and education.  

Tune in as we celebrate resilience, innovation, and the unwavering power of storytelling to uplift and transform lives.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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The Joseph Bonner Show starts now.

Speaker 5 (00:30):
Welcome everyone. Today, we're exploring someone truly influential, looking at
the really positive and lasting impact of Oprah Winfrey.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Yeah, it's about understanding how one person, you know, facing
some pretty serious challenges could rise up and become such
a force for good exactly.

Speaker 5 (00:47):
We've looked some fascinating material charting her journey, her achievements, and.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
It's less a straight biography, more an examination of her
influence how it's kind of spread and stuck around, right.

Speaker 5 (00:58):
We want to get to the heart of her leg
se for you, make it clear why her story is
so well significant without getting bogged down.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
Makes sense?

Speaker 5 (01:06):
Okay, So where to begin the beginning? I guess born
in rural Mississippi nineteen fifty four, into poverty.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, the information really details that significant hardship from the
start and some really difficult experiences, including sexual abuse and stability.

Speaker 5 (01:21):
It's quite stark when you read about it. Neglect too,
just formidable early challenges truly, But what really jumps out
even then is this incredible resilience.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Absolutely, like, how do you even process that kind of start?

Speaker 5 (01:35):
It's extraordinary, And the material we looked at draws a
really interesting line from those struggles to her later empathy,
that deep desire she developed to connect with people to
help them, maybe because she understood pain herself.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
That makes a lot of sense. It suggests those hardships
weren't just things she overcame, but things that actively shaped
her ability to connect.

Speaker 5 (01:56):
Yeah, she's talked about that herself, hasn't she How understanding
pain informed her work the importance of healing.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
It really sets the stage for her unique approach later on.
So moving into media, her start was maybe conventional enough,
but she rose.

Speaker 5 (02:12):
Fat because of that style, right, authentic, compassionate people responded totally.

Speaker 3 (02:17):
It seems that genuineness just cut through.

Speaker 5 (02:19):
And then nineteen eighty six, the Oprah Winfrey Show launches,
and it wasn't just another talk show.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
No wait, it completely changed the game for daytime TV.

Speaker 5 (02:27):
It was like, finally Onnest conversations Yeah about real stuff.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Yeah, tackling difficult social issues, personal stories with a kind
of candor that felt well, pretty revolutionary for back then.

Speaker 5 (02:40):
It went beyond the usual celebrity chat. It was about
real lives, real struggles.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
And then the power move launching Harpo Productions.

Speaker 5 (02:48):
Oh huge, taking control of her own show, her own message.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
That really cemented her status, didn't it. From host to
media mogul territory.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
Building her own skyscraper, as you said, it gave her independence.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Complete control, and that paved the way for well, everything else.
Like the book Club in ninety six.

Speaker 5 (03:06):
Ah, the book Club, what a phenomenon.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
That was unbelievable impact.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
Seriously, she picks a book and boom bestseller overnight. It
created this massive reading wave.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
It really did. People were suddenly talking about novels everywhere.
It got the whole country reading and discussing books.

Speaker 5 (03:22):
It was kind of amazing, actually, such.

Speaker 3 (03:24):
Influence democratized reading, you could say, and brought diverse stories
to light. Then there's her film work.

Speaker 5 (03:30):
Right, The Color Purple, her acting debut, and she was
good got critical acclaim.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Showed another dimension for sure, but also producing later on
films like Selma.

Speaker 5 (03:41):
Yeah, powerful important films. It wasn't just about being in
front of the camera. There was always this intent behind it, purpose.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Which connects to own The Oprah Winfrey Network launching in
twenty eleven.

Speaker 5 (03:53):
Another massive step, building her own.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
TV network, a whole platform dedicated to her vision, essentially inspiring,
empowering content on a much bigger scale.

Speaker 5 (04:02):
It's like she kept building bigger platforms for her message.
And the magazine, Oh, the Oprah magazine in two.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
Thousand, that took off immediately too, didn't it like wildfire.

Speaker 5 (04:12):
It felt like getting a dose of that Oprah inspiration delivered.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Right to you exactly same themes instiration, personal stories, wellness,
self improvement. It just echoed everything she stood.

Speaker 5 (04:22):
For one awards, reached millions, solidified her influence in print too.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Across all these different media, you see that consistent thread right.

Speaker 5 (04:30):
Absolutely, empowerment overcoming adversity. It's the core.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
Message and it clearly resonated deeply with people, still.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
Does, which flows right into her philanthropy.

Speaker 3 (04:39):
Not just talk, no, definitely not. The Oprah Winfrey Leadership
Academy for girls in South Africa is such a clear example.

Speaker 5 (04:46):
Creating real opportunities using her platform and resources for education,
especially for marginalized kids.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
It's a powerful, tangible commitment putting her philosophy into action.

Speaker 5 (04:57):
It really is inspiring, like she's paving the way for
others based on her own journey m HM, which.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Leads to her wider cultural impact. It's hard to even
measure fully.

Speaker 5 (05:06):
It really is. She became this symbol, didn't she of compassion, authenticity.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Yeah, inspiring so many people to believe in themselves, chase
their dreams, no matter where they started.

Speaker 5 (05:16):
And just her influence on conversations mental health, emotional honesty,
well being.

Speaker 3 (05:22):
She shifted things undeniably. It's woven into the culture now
in many ways.

Speaker 5 (05:26):
Speaking of continuing the conversation, Joseph Bonner.

Speaker 3 (05:29):
Ah, yes, it seems he's really focused on highlighting her
positive legacy. Specifically, he's got interviews coming up, could offer
some fresh perspectives.

Speaker 5 (05:37):
Oh, I'm curious now, you know, Joseph Bonner often finds
those unexpected angles. I bet he'll talk to someone like
really surprising. Maybe someone from the crew of the original
show or a student from the academy.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
Could be anything really, Yeah.

Speaker 5 (05:51):
You just know he'll dig up something fascinating. Oprah Winfrey's
story is just this incredible example of resilience, isn't it?

Speaker 3 (05:58):
Absolutely Resililliance, empathy, determination.

Speaker 5 (06:03):
All of it facing down such tough beginnings to build
not just a career, but this huge positive force through
everything she.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Did her legacy is pretty remarkable and it really makes
you think, doesn't it about how overcoming obstacles can fuel
someone to create change?

Speaker 5 (06:19):
Yeah, how those personal struggles can be turned into something
that helps others on a massive scale.

Speaker 3 (06:23):
The power of media, personal stories used for good, to inspire.

Speaker 5 (06:27):
Hope, definitely something to reflect on.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Hey, what's going to you guys? This is Joseph Bonner
And now for the exciting part of our show, which
I know that you are all dying to hear. Like,
who is our guest for this particular segment. We have
a lot of amazing guests, you guys, And so to
start us off, I'm gonna go ahead and let Jenny
introduce herself, her company, and her team, and then we're
gonna jump right into this amazing nit Jenny, go for it.

Speaker 6 (06:53):
Thank you so much, Joseph. We're so happy to be here.

Speaker 7 (06:57):
We are rat pregnett USAE and my name is Janine Sephina.
My friends call me Jeanie, and we are so happy
to be here, and I want to introduce you to
our team. Basically, we're so excited about our revolutionary RAT
card because it's like a medical passport essentially that you

(07:18):
can put all of.

Speaker 6 (07:18):
Your data on.

Speaker 7 (07:20):
So many of us go to traditional doctors, but yet
we also have.

Speaker 6 (07:26):
Other kinds of doctors that we like to go to.

Speaker 7 (07:28):
For example, we might have a holistic homeopathic type doctor.

Speaker 6 (07:33):
We might have a therapist, we might have a chiropractor.

Speaker 7 (07:37):
All sorts of wonderful doctors that we go to, eye doctors,
hearing doctors, all sorts of wonderful doctors. So we need
all of this information in one single place, and that's
what the RAT card allows us to do. So let
me introduce you to my wonderful team. Our CEO is
Mariah Kane.

Speaker 8 (07:57):
Hi, I'm Mariah Kane.

Speaker 9 (08:01):
Then we have.

Speaker 7 (08:02):
George Jet who is our chief Medical Officer and so
much more as well.

Speaker 10 (08:07):
Welcome, it's a pleasure to be here.

Speaker 11 (08:10):
Welcome Georgia and Peko Go, who is the chief executive
Officer of I Data Map, which We are also connected
with who created the rat card, and I'd like to introduce.

Speaker 7 (08:24):
You the Pico coming to us all the way from Korea.

Speaker 12 (08:28):
It's my honor to you like it.

Speaker 4 (08:30):
This is super exciting. We're happy to have you Peeko
with well. Dinny, thank you so much for the wonderful introduction.
And rad card sounds like an amazing, amazing product. And
I say this because number one, I think a lot
of people right now are kind of on an exodus

(08:50):
out of the US. So I think that when people
are making major decisions like that, it's so important to
have your medical documents secure so that you take this
with you. And as a world traveler myself currently I'm
in the Philippines, I'm always thinking about home. You know what,
you know, what if I get hit by a bus,
you know, you know, God forbid right, But you know,

(09:12):
those things do on my mind if I'm like, you know,
do I have of my medical you know, information kind
of put together? And so I think rad Card, which
you guys are doing, is so phenomenal because you're giving
people a solution to that issue. Can you tell us
about rad card and what inspired this?

Speaker 7 (09:31):
Yes, absolutely, it was actually created in Australia and Peko.
I'm gonna have you share a little bit about the
story for us if you would.

Speaker 12 (09:42):
Yeah, this Rod card Uh, we are honored to be
actually walking together as one of the prominent godfather of
a semiconductor in the world is still alive.

Speaker 13 (09:54):
You know.

Speaker 12 (09:55):
He was even a member of the early Apple you know,
like Steve and he was a member of this variety
of Semiconductor International Committee and then like some song and TSMC,
all of these based technology was highly contributed from this
his background. The textbook, his textbook is like a bible

(10:16):
of what is called the BLSI, very large set of
set of instruction. That's the actually DNA of all these
digital chips and your iPhone, your PC and everything. So
his mother passed away all of a sudden without the clue,
and nobody found out what was the clue. He was
a very healthy lady. And then he saw the people

(10:39):
are painful carrying these and X ray films, you know,
everywhere the doctor's having a paper time. So he thought,
what if all those information is just in the hand
simply and then whenever doctor need they can just check
it out for lifetime, never lose, you know. That's the
bagic concept.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
You know, yeah, thank you so much for sharing that story.
That that's very I mean, obviously it's heartbreaking, but to
hear that from from from a state of difficulty and
trial birth this vital product for the world, it's it's
it's very inspiring. Now with rad CAR, I think I

(11:20):
think a lot of people are probably wondering, like, Okay,
how exactly does it work? So like, you know, obviously
with my medical records, you know, my doctor would have those,
you know, maybe I have a little bit of that home.
How does rad card you know, streamline this process to
make sure that that goes with me wherever I go,
instantaneously without me having to carry all this paperwork.

Speaker 12 (11:42):
Yeah, you know, we are living in a digital world.
And then now in the hospital you go with the
radiology you know, X ray, a CTMRI, all these regisal
data is available, but what they give to you is
just a CD. So you have to go to a
doctor a hospital with a CD. You know, if you
if you with the GMNS gym is a CD Phillips
to the Phillips City. You know, it's like a world

(12:03):
processor and a pop point and access. But if you
have a PDF file you should see everything, right, So
like that, you know what this rod car has embedded
the solution inside. You can view every diagnostic capable software.
We put it here inside. So we just we're just
simply imputed from any hospitals that original file and you

(12:24):
carry lifetime and then you.

Speaker 14 (12:27):
Can so, Joseph, because this is a supercomputer, you can
look at your entire X ray files and whatever kind
of file you upload to it within the card without
having any other processing like on your computer.

Speaker 4 (12:43):
Oh nice, Okay, that wow, Okay.

Speaker 8 (12:45):
That makes it so it's not just a print out copy.

Speaker 14 (12:47):
It's the entire file that you can take to another
doctor and get a second opinion on or ten second opinions,
if that's fair.

Speaker 4 (12:54):
Exactly.

Speaker 9 (12:55):
And Joseph, you inspirement when you said Global Traveler. You
had me at the Global travel That's that's what are
our card is set up. We call it the we
have we nickname it the medical Passport because it allows
you to go anywhere in the world. And like you said,
if you were in the Philippines and God forbid, you
may need to see a doctor and you could show them.

(13:17):
You can select what files you'd like them to see.
If you say oh, I'd like them to see my
my EKG from a year ago. You can select that
and let them see only that file, and that cardiologist
could look at your priority KG compare it to the
current one that he was looking at to see if
there were any changes. And so it really helps you

(13:39):
as the patient not have to go undergo unnecessarily diagnostic
tests unncessary diagnostic tests while you're traveling.

Speaker 10 (13:49):
And it really allows you to.

Speaker 9 (13:51):
Get like expert consultations from anywhere on the globe. So
if I needed to see a doctor and this specialist
was in Dubai, I could give him access to the
specific files I wanted and he could drop a note
or she could drop a note for me and give
me their opinion.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
That's that's amazing.

Speaker 6 (14:13):
It speaks with every just with every single hospital.

Speaker 7 (14:16):
Equipment in the world right now. So it's we could
go to any country. We could all go on a
trip to any country, any continent, and they're going to
be able to read the rad card and the.

Speaker 9 (14:30):
Seventeen different languages we have. You have the option on
the car when you load it to to seventeen different languages.

Speaker 7 (14:37):
Okay, but they'll see the scans, uh, you know, whatever
it is. If it's a brain scan, a backscan, anything
will show through.

Speaker 4 (14:48):
Okay, So I have a question in regards to okay,
so the language thing is it's phenomenal, So how exactly
does that work? So like so if you upload your documents,
it will translate the doctor is.

Speaker 12 (15:00):
That well, you know, rod card has a self embedded
application already in it. And then the very specific thing
is that even you don't need the Internet, you just
to plug into any PC, the PC turned into hospital
and then just use the keyboard and screen and if
you unplugged that this rod card, there's nothing remains there.

(15:22):
So it's a it's a privacy is highly secured. So
it walking and it connected with the internet, you know,
but without the connected the internet. So even this one
walks inside the jungle. As long as there is one
in any laptop like Windows seven, Windows Tab, Windows eleven,
it doesn't matter because you know that's the that's the
in a very flexible way, we wanted to provide the

(15:44):
head skin to the whole world.

Speaker 9 (15:47):
And sorry, as a healthcare provider, all of the healthcare
providers we use what we call EMRs electronic medical records.

Speaker 10 (15:57):
So the rad card.

Speaker 9 (15:59):
Actually is its own electronic electronic medical healthcare record, so
it as a healthcare provider, you can go in and
it will if you sorry, as a patient, you can
download a document an MRI, a CT lab work and
it will populate in the correct space in the imaging

(16:21):
in the lab work area. So it organizes all of
your data in the format of a medical record.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
Wow. Okay, that's that's phenomenal. Now here's here's here's my
thought process in regards to to this card. I think
because it's so important to have those kind of medical
documents with you wherever you go, and the fact that
your card makes it readily available to medical professionals globally.
I guess my next question is how do people actually

(16:52):
get a hold of this car, Like, how do they
incorporate this concept and join the I would say, I
end the bandwagging to get a car.

Speaker 7 (17:02):
Yes, just you know, it's really exciting for us because
you're one of the first people in the United States
to know about this. We actually haven't done our official
launch yet, but what we have done is we've now
put it on Amazon, so everyone can go to Amazon
look up rat card r A D c R D

(17:23):
and you'll find the rad card that you can get there.
So we've made this available to everyone here in the
United States, which is where you know we're going to
be launching our product. You know, we're rad care Net USA, Inc.
And so we're going to be doing a launch very
soon to let everyone know more about it. So your

(17:44):
viewers will be amongst the first to be able to
get this, and it's very very exciting. I actually, you know,
I had a loved one who actually had a head
injury there at the top of their game in life, brilliant, beautiful, amazing,
and in two thousand five, they were hit by a
baseball or softball in the back of the head and

(18:06):
they've never been the same again. I wish we would
have had a scan of their brain from you know,
a place like you know, the doctor Daniel Aman Clinics,
a spec scan or something, so that we could have
had that baseline because it affected their whole life. They
haven't been the same, but had we had that baseline,
they would have been able to really diagnose things better.

(18:29):
And I think there's a long way we can go
in our country in terms of head injuries and other things,
but it's really important for us to start putting the
power back into our own hands to put all of
our information on this and to be able to control
it ourselves, so that we have that baseline in case
there's ever something unexpected that happens.

Speaker 8 (18:52):
Yeah, they're totally right.

Speaker 14 (18:53):
I mean, you really don't know that you need your
medical data and tell you're in an emergency situation and
then it's you know, it could be life or death.
So it's it's kind of hard to get people to
realize that medical data is important and that they should
have it all in a little card in their pocket
for an emergency. So we're working on putting it in
through the foster care system and insurance companies and pharmaceutical

(19:18):
companies and anybody that has like a big community or
population of people that they could you know, issue this
as part of their healthcare plan so that people realize
the importance of it and it becomes an everyday thing.

Speaker 4 (19:33):
Thank you so much. And I think you're absolutely right,
you know, and and correct me if I'm wrong, But
I'm thinking I'm thinking in regards to like, you know,
when you're like under serious medical I guess you can
say emergencies, right, And there's some cases where you know,
you'll you'll you have to give doctors specifications like okay,

(19:54):
I can't accept this. I can't accept it. I can't
accept that right. And and with in regards to like
dual power of attorneys, you know, like okay, in the
event that I become incapacitated, you know, these are the
individuals who are authorized to make medical decisions for me
kind of thing. You know. I think in a place
like the rad car, to be able to put all
that information in, I think it's so important because I

(20:18):
don't know any product or service. There's there's no one
doing it right now to this degree internationally, so I
appreciate it exactly.

Speaker 2 (20:28):
Also will allow you to not just store your data,
but also you can store your birth certificates like you said, dnrs,
things like that, but you can also store other information.

Speaker 10 (20:42):
There is a private area where you can.

Speaker 4 (20:44):
Store other information.

Speaker 9 (20:46):
And say, for instance, like I'm in healthcare, so if
say I had an implant, say I had a total
hip and I had a particular name brand, if I
am in an accident in another country, they can't just
go in and do surgery on that hip because they
might not have the proper equipment to remove the hip

(21:07):
I have and put the new one in. They need
to know before they go in what exactly I have
so they can get the appropriate equipment prior to the surgery.
And with the medical passport, you can store your implant information,
say your pacemaker, your total hip, your total knee, your

(21:27):
breast implants. You can store that data on the card,
so immediately you can provide it to that provider that
you might not even be able to communicate in English with,
but you can show it to them and the red
car will you know, they can see it in their language.

Speaker 14 (21:45):
So I think one other one other thing that's important
to note is that this has layers of encryption, so
it's as encrypted, if not more than a lot of
like crypto balllets, So it's safe for any type of
information and no one will be able to access unless
you give them permission. And if you would like to
give your doctor permission for only two weeks, you can

(22:06):
send them a file for two weeks and then they
won't be able to access it after that. It really
is incredible technology.

Speaker 4 (22:12):
Great that it is. That sounds amazing. Again, I'm in
the Philippines right now, so I did you know, check
it out and see if I could order it here,
and I can. I can actually order it here as well.

Speaker 6 (22:24):
Yeahful, Joseph.

Speaker 7 (22:28):
I'm here in Florida, And as you know, Florida really
got hit by hurricanes recently, and you would not believe
the devastation in some areas and just what people have
really been through.

Speaker 6 (22:40):
It really affected a lot of lives.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
Some people completely were.

Speaker 7 (22:44):
Not able to be in their homes anymore and experienced
disastrous flooding. In fact, I just met someone this week
that said that they're family drowned in their home. So
it's really critical that every family start arming themselves with
these kinds of things so that they can be prepared
if there's an emergency.

Speaker 6 (23:03):
There were lots of seniors that had to suddenly.

Speaker 7 (23:05):
Be rushed out of their homes to various places for care,
and if they could have just handed them a RAT card,
some of them would.

Speaker 6 (23:11):
Have maybe even been able to get services even faster.

Speaker 7 (23:14):
Although I will say Florida did an outstanding job with
helping people. But the cool thing about the RAT card
that I wanted to share is that it's also waterproof,
So if you know, were to get wet in something
like you know, our hurricane, you know small flood situation,
you would still be able to pick your RAT card,
you know, if it got wet in your wallet, maybe

(23:36):
you had to like you know, we know what Hawaii
went through when they went through the fires and people
had to go into the water to survive.

Speaker 6 (23:43):
If you have your RAT card there in your wallet,
it's still going to be fun.

Speaker 7 (23:47):
And you could give it to the emergency medical people
right away and they would be able to pull up
this information and access that if you give them your
PEN number that goes with it, so we really truly
is revolutionary.

Speaker 14 (24:02):
And if you're not conscious enough to give them your
PIN number, you can set up whatever.

Speaker 8 (24:07):
Information your blood type, your name, your day to birth.

Speaker 14 (24:10):
Then the emergency response teams can tap it to a
phone or any type of screen with the battery and
it'll pop up.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
Okay, wow, okay.

Speaker 6 (24:20):
Wow, It's amazing.

Speaker 7 (24:22):
I had a friend who went to the Olympics and
Paris recently. She was volunteering. She actually fell and got
hurt and had to be rushed back to the United States.
Had she had the RAT card with all of her
health information on it, she probably would have been able
to get the full.

Speaker 6 (24:36):
Suppport right there. Overseas so many practical applications.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
Wow. Wow, So it makes sense. And I think where
we are right now in the stream of just time,
and I think helping families become more prepared for emergencies
is absolutely vital. And what you're doing at rad card
is they're not just providing a service that's that's invaluable.

(25:05):
You're saving lives And I think that's what I want
to wrap my mind around this. I just imagine the
lives that can be saved with proper medical information given
at the right time, you know what I mean.

Speaker 7 (25:19):
Yeah, absolutely the time about making people radically healthy, healthier
than ever. And currently there's so many children who have
are on the spectrum or have autism things like that,
which make it really critical to be able for each
child to be able to have this kind of card
as well.

Speaker 8 (25:41):
Absolutely, at the right time, in the right place, in
the right manner.

Speaker 12 (25:45):
Josh, where are you influce in that right now?

Speaker 4 (25:48):
I'm in Morocco Island, so I've been I've been on
this island for a while and you know, it's one
of the smallest islands in the Philippines. They have one
hospital because it's you know, such a time. Thankfully, nothing
as crazy as happened while I've been here. I'm not
a big water sports person. I'll get in the water,
but I'm not you know, I'm not trying to do

(26:09):
too much, so I do stay pretty safe.

Speaker 12 (26:14):
But you know, yeah, you're saving Barakai. And if you
if you fly down to just one one hour, there
is a midda now big island, isn't it inside the
middle Now there are only two big hospital like a
national level hospital, and one of those hospital has a
children children cancer center, and that's the hospital we implemented

(26:35):
for the first time with this rod card. You know,
they are they are living in a hole across the
midda now island and a village to village and mountain
the mountain. But when they are sick, doctors have to
make us seven six hours of driving visit to monitoring
how they're doing. So we implemented the project. You know,
they bring the every children with the cancel into the

(26:57):
hospital and they first scanning and ex ray and then
before they making a decision whether they are going to
Kenotarapha or not, they resent back to their home with
the rath car and then in roth car there are
local little clinics or hospitals. They go there and then
then do monitoring and they update into the rod car
over the cloud, you know, the main doctors on cologies

(27:20):
or looking at those data on a real time. So
that's how we made that these distributed remote area still
accessible on the right time by the right doctors through
the telematacy system. That's the Philippine we did with the
under the support of sponsorship from the World the Children
Canceled organization. How do we support these children who are

(27:44):
poor and then they need the care. That's the spot
where you are now.

Speaker 4 (27:50):
That's pretty pretty often to be so close to where
to its origin. And if you had if you had
some advice, there were families listening right now to this
show in regards to why it's so important for them
to have a rad card for them and their families. Now,
what would you say to.

Speaker 12 (28:10):
That collect your data right now. That is the old
cost in the future, and then that is the most
most important information to be treated well and properly. AI
will come, AI doctors will be located, but the AI

(28:32):
cannot diagnose if you don't have your lifetime data. But
if you collect the data right now, this is the
very fundamental base the AI is just to pick up
the data and return you back. That is reducing the
whole cost of the healthcare. That reduced the court the
redioceribus for the better use. That's the word we want
to do.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
That makes sense.

Speaker 6 (28:55):
Yeah, you're absolutely right. Collect your data now.

Speaker 7 (28:59):
I mean, after all the roller coaster ride everyone went
through the last five years, and we all have those
personal stories of what our families have been through in
one way or another, we all need to focus on
connecting collecting our data now. It's absolutely critical for every
single person.

Speaker 12 (29:16):
We are eligible with HASA and f I S A
two And if someone can explain about that because of
how we much we try to be eligible for that, Yeah, Georgia,
can you explain so? Not sure.

Speaker 9 (29:31):
In the US, there's something called Flexible Spending Accounts and HSA,
which is a healthcare spending account that oftentimes the employers
will provide to their employees that will allow them to
use tax pre tax dollars that it's their money, but
pre tax dollars for whatever healthcare products they might need,

(29:53):
something like a gluecost monitor, a scale, maybe a pulse oximeter,
a A the fibulator. These type of things you can
purchase with FSA. Our rad card is also qualified as
an FSA item, so you it qualifies for pre text

(30:14):
dollars and you can use that to purchase the rad
card on Amazon. And I wanted to speak to like
when Pico and Janine said storing your data. So the
potential implications say, for instance, God forbid, if I had
breast cancer and I had genetic markers done and all

(30:36):
of these things done, there may be and you know,
if I receive treatment and later on in the future,
there may be a cure for that, And so my
daughters or my granddaughters may not have to go through
what I went through.

Speaker 10 (30:53):
If I stored my data correctly.

Speaker 9 (30:56):
They could immediately they might have might not have to
go through all of the It would be like, oh,
it's this, okay, we know this.

Speaker 10 (31:03):
Is you know this work.

Speaker 4 (31:04):
We're going to move forward with that.

Speaker 10 (31:06):
So there definitely are not just implications.

Speaker 9 (31:09):
For your present, but also for your future because as
we know, messine gets better every year and you know,
every generation, so.

Speaker 10 (31:19):
You know it's just a political product.

Speaker 4 (31:22):
Yeah, that makes sense, That's why that's perfect. And I
have another question because I think that I think probably
our listeners and our viewers are probably going to want
to understand this, so if you can help me understand
them a bit better. So let's say I purchased a
red car. Yeah, it comes in the mail, I have it,
and of course I have all my medical documents on

(31:43):
my computer. How do I get my medical documents onto
my car?

Speaker 14 (31:48):
How do I think?

Speaker 8 (31:49):
It's as easy as dragging and dropping them.

Speaker 14 (31:51):
You plug it into your computer like you would a USB,
and you just drag them and drop them in. It'll
pop them in its own file folder, as if you
plugged any USB. Except I mean it's actually a supercomputer
and then they're encrypted once they're in there.

Speaker 9 (32:06):
But I will say, it's not just for the notes
that you're talking about dragging and dropping. So if you
were to have a PET scan, which is a you know,
very extensive scan that we do to detect like metastasis
of cancer, or you had an MRI which is thousands

(32:26):
of images, you could take your red card to that
imaging center before you leave and you got that MRI
of your brain or your body and say, please download
my data to this card, and once it's on the card,
you can see the images, not just reports and your

(32:47):
doctors can scan in a surgical application, a surgeon could
see your anatomy prior to surgery, which is so key
instead of just going in blind.

Speaker 4 (33:02):
Right. Yeah, absolutely, you know. And it's so funny because
and this is just me thinking. I got a couple
of thoughts here. Number one. You know, even with in
regards to going to the dentist. You know, if you
go to the dentist overseas, right, you can have your
all your all your X rays already on the car.

Speaker 15 (33:20):
That's all right.

Speaker 4 (33:22):
Mind, here's another thing I was thinking about. And you
tell me if this, if the application makes sense, you know,
you know, you know us in America we love our pets.
We love our cats and our dogs and our gumme pigs.
But this also work, you know, to have my medical
records for my you know, my my pet.

Speaker 12 (33:44):
We are going to release the pet version too.

Speaker 7 (33:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (33:49):
I think that's brilliant. Yeah, I mean I know a
thousand people who would get it for their cat, like
you know, absolvely.

Speaker 6 (33:57):
Remember the family to have it in some cases.

Speaker 7 (34:00):
But you know, like they say with planes going down,
take care of yourself first, and then take care of
every other member of the family and then everyone, Yes,
remember the pets too. Do you have a pet chosel
right now or is it something for the future.

Speaker 4 (34:16):
I don't, but I love pets, so I'm just thinking,
you know what I mean, I'm like, this would be brilliant,
you know, for cat and dog lovers everywhere. Absolutely well.
I love what you guys are doing. I think it's
phenomenal and and I'm gonna I'm gonna say this because
it's true. It takes a very special kind of people

(34:40):
to work on something of this caliber. I don't know
how your team came together in such an amazing way,
but all of you bring something special to this because
without you, this wouldn't be what it is today. So
I don't know how you got you all came to together,
but you came together for such a beautiful cause and

(35:03):
and thanks to you, I think this is going to
be something that's going to truly be life changing for
so many individuals globally. So thank you so much for
what you're doing. And there you go. I love it.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Now.

Speaker 4 (35:19):
Before I let you guys go, I want I want
to give you an opportunity to maybe say any final
party words of love, comfort, inspiration that you feel that
takeaways that you want us to take away from from
the center. Anybody can speak at any moment, Yeah, I would.

Speaker 6 (35:39):
Like, oh sorry, I'm going to suggest or church at Yes, I'm.

Speaker 9 (35:45):
Just going to say briefly the implications for I was
a foster, I was an orphan, and as you grow up,
you know, you don't know your data, you don't know
your information, and when you and oftentimes when you go
back when you're an adult and you go to retrieve it,
you're getting false information or bits and pieces or whatever

(36:06):
someone else thought was important. And the reason what made
me just really lock into this is I said, well,
as a foster care child or an orphan, if someone
is just responsible enough to store your data for you
on the rad card, then when you're old enough to understand,
when you're old enough to potentially have your own family,

(36:29):
that it's available for you. And so that really made
I mean, in this world, we have whole communities and
whole countries with massive or orphans, and you know, when
you're a child and you don't know your data, don't
know your history, it really kind of can impact your future.
So this kind of at least empowers that child to

(36:51):
be able to heal and have some data of their
own for their so that they can build their future
a little bit stronger.

Speaker 4 (36:59):
Wow, thank you for sharing measurement. Thank you so much.
Anyone else other party words of advice.

Speaker 7 (37:07):
True sharing that that really is so true and it's
so critically important.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
You know.

Speaker 7 (37:16):
With me, I did have both of my parents with
me when I was young, but at eleven years old,
similar to what Georgette was saying before about the breast cancer,
my mom was diagnosed with breast breast cancer. And this
is I think part of what made me so passionate
about healthcare. One of those early memories that at eleven
years old, they told us that my mom had breast cancer.

Speaker 6 (37:36):
At this time, I didn't know.

Speaker 7 (37:38):
We're a little older, but we didn't know anyone that
had breast cancer at this time. And it turns out
my mom had breast cancer, my grandmother had breast cancer,
other members of our family had cancer.

Speaker 6 (37:48):
So it really does seem to run for some reason
in our family. And I just feel like.

Speaker 7 (37:55):
The rad care could really help protect so many lives.
I mean, you, when you change one person's life, you
affect a family for generations, and so this is an
opportunity for us to be able to change the trajectory
of all of our lives when it comes to health healthcare.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
Health is wealth.

Speaker 7 (38:13):
If we don't have I mean, if we don't have health,
we don't have anything.

Speaker 6 (38:18):
We need our health to be able to do anything.

Speaker 14 (38:21):
Absolutely, health is the most valuable thing on the planet.

Speaker 8 (38:25):
Absolutely. I have something to add.

Speaker 14 (38:29):
I think that we live in a very data centric
world right now.

Speaker 8 (38:33):
Everything runs on data.

Speaker 14 (38:34):
Our cars, our phones, are bank accounts, our nothing can
function without data.

Speaker 8 (38:40):
And if you're going to do one thing.

Speaker 14 (38:41):
To prepare your family to keep them safe, like save
your data, you might not be able to get food
storage or plan for the hurricane, or you know, there's
all sorts of situations and people just don't really care.
I think that's the biggest issue nowadays. But if you
can do anything save your data.

Speaker 7 (38:59):
Yes, how many people do care but they don't know
what to do. This is one thing we can usually do.
We can have this rad card in our hands right
now with all of our data, and even it can
help for the future we could have I could have
a great grandchild that could benefit from the information that
I save on my rad care card today.

Speaker 4 (39:20):
Absolutely, thank you so much. I mean, just phenomenal information
and absolutely inspiring on what you are doing with the
RAD Card and how you are changing lives. It was
such an honor having you guys on today's show. For
those of you guys who are listening are watching, please
take a look at the description in the show. You
will be able to see links to not only more

(39:42):
information about the RAD Card, but also links to where
you can purchase it on Amazon as well. And with
that being said, please you guys are always welcome to
come back on the show at any time. I want
to thank you all at my guests for listening. For
those of you guys who are ready to purchase your
card again, click the link on the description of the
show and make that purchase and make that global impact

(40:05):
for yourself and for your family. Now, before I do
let you guys go out home, I want you to
sit right there and listen to a word from our partners. Hey,
what's going on you guys. This is Joseph Bonner and
welcome back to the show. Now. Just like I told
you when we first started this segment that we have
a lot of amazing guests to interview on this very

(40:26):
special segment and do I not deliver. I want you
guys to join me and welcome me Verdell Osborne. She
is an author, speaker, life and career coach and her
story is not just inspiring, she is making moves to
leave an impact for future students and future generations. And
I want you to welcome her to the show with me.

(40:49):
Ms Osborne. Welcome to the show. How are you today?

Speaker 13 (40:52):
I'm well, thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 4 (40:54):
I appreciate it. No, we're still excited to have you.
And I know very soon were to be calling you
doctor Osborne. I just want to I just want to
put that out there. I want to be the first
one to say and I know it's coming, So I'm
gonna I'm gonna call you doctor Osma for the rest
of the show because I already know is coming. You
know what I mean, You've already but you put so

(41:16):
much into your career and you're already putting in the
work and it's it's literally just around the corner. So
doctor Osborne, first, the question I have for you is,
I know that you are doing so much to give
back to to other young ones. You know in the
educational field. You know you're you're helping people pursue their
careers and it makes sense of the world around them.

(41:37):
And I guess my first question to you is what
inspired you to pursue your career and how has your
journey shaped your perspective in your field.

Speaker 13 (41:46):
Yes, Joseph, let me just tell you what inspired me.
When I was younger, I had a grandmother that was
just so instrumental in my life, and she formed the
mar Maret Sea Barnes Civic Club in Sandusky, Ohio, and
her and her friends would get together and they would

(42:08):
raise money to help children or young people, young adults
who wanted to go to college who couldn't afford it. So,
you know, it was funny because just last night I
was looking at some old archives of articles and her
name was all through the Sandusky Register of how they

(42:28):
were having fundraisers. And I mean this was in the sixties.
So that just continued to inspire me to give back
to the next generation. And that is really my model.
I want young adults to know that they can make it,
they can do it no matter what life looks like.
They are value, they're important, and we are counting on

(42:51):
them for the next generation.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
You know, it's so interesting too that you know, you
have a family legacy of giving back and supporting future generations.
So you know, with your grandmother doing that in the
sixties and you carrying that legacy ford in twenty twenty five,
I think just speaks to just your family dynamics and

(43:16):
just the passion with which your family has continued to
I would say, carry the torch to make sure that
our children are youth, their voices are heard, and that
they have support for the future. I think it's absolutely
amazing now I know that you are doing some pretty
powerful things and making sure that you are being a

(43:37):
network of support to these upcoming students. And recently you
had the opportunity to speak at the Texas Women's Universities
in Texas. Can you tell me a little bit about
that defining moment in your career and how this has
influenced your professional growth.

Speaker 13 (43:51):
Absolutely, I was, you know, I can't possibly start this
conversation without talking about the power of networking and just
you never know who you're going to meet or what
conversation will lead to the next opportunity. And I was
at a conference and happened to run into a professor

(44:15):
that is at the Texas Women's University, and we just
started talking and I started sharing my story, telling her
about my passion for young adults and how I created
a university at the organization that I work in, and
she just became intrigued. I started talking about my desire

(44:37):
to coach and mentor employees and students and it's just
who I am. And she invited me to speak at
her class. And so when I went to the class,
it was a defining moment for me because I almost
had a flashback when I was their age, and I

(44:58):
started thinking about the people that poured into my life
and the teachers that made a difference in my life.
And so as I was talking to them, we had
kind of like an open forum, and they asked me,
you know what started your career. And as soon as
I started talking about how instrumental my career has been

(45:22):
to other people, they started to want to know more
and they asked more questions. And it was just a
wonderful opportunity to give back in a small environment, but
yet a powerful college campus university where they're pouring into
not just women, but also males as well to prepare

(45:46):
them for their next career launch.

Speaker 4 (45:49):
And it really sounds like this is the kind of
career that you were born for. You know what I mean,
And you know it's it's to like your family dynamics.
And I guess my question for you is this, you know,
as you're working with these young ones and you're helping
them prepare for their futures, for the you know, for

(46:12):
the future, whatever career they decide to pursue, what is
your motivation?

Speaker 13 (46:19):
My motivation is someone poured into me, and I live
off the values of you know, who can I mentor,
who can I coach? And then lastly, who can I sponsor?
Whose name can I bring up in places that they're
not even present, because so many times young adults don't

(46:44):
have the opportunity for someone to sponsor them. You know,
internships and you know, landing their first job can be
one of the most stressful experiences that they've ever had.
And so if you as an experience and me and
myself as an experienced coach, if I can share something

(47:08):
with someone that will help them with their interview or
help them, you know, even after they get the job,
you know, sometimes it's difficult to keep the job. And
part of that is about relationships. And if you don't
understand how to build that relationship with your leader or

(47:28):
with even your mentor that you might have on a job.
Then you kind of shy away or not feel really
confident to you know, step into that new opportunity that
you've landed, and you become fearful and sometimes, you know,
even quit. You know, we've heard of quiet quitting, and

(47:49):
that is because, you know, people just don't feel valued.
Young adults sometimes don't feel valued in the workplace. They
don't they even though they realize that they they have
so much potential. But sometimes all it takes is for
someone to say, you know, I'm proud of you. You know,
I see you, I see what you're doing. Keep up
the good work. Sometimes you just need that boost of encouragement.

(48:13):
And someone gave that to me. I had a one.
I started my career in the call center and I'll
tell the story quite a you know, many years ago,
and I had a team lead and her name was Michelle.
That team lead saw that I had a passion for
helping people learn on the jobs. So they would sit

(48:37):
new agents with me and I would kind of show them,
you know, not really realizing that this may turn into
a job opportunity. Well, they posted a position for a
trainer and she was like, for hell, you really need
to apply for the trainer position. And I was like, no,
I'm too scared. She said that was back then people,

(48:59):
there was no such is workplace bullying. She was like,
you're going to do it, you know, in a nice way.
Of course you can do this. What are you afraid of?
So she spoke to those things that you know, were
kind of keeping me pulled back, and so she finally
talked me into it. I went into the interview. I
was nervous as can be, but I had an interviewer

(49:22):
that believed in me. She had heard about my experience
and the things that I, you know, I was passionate about,
and she gave me the opportunity, and from there here
we are twenty years later. I'm still in learning and development,
still having a passion and desire to help people grow
and mentor and coach and help them move to the

(49:46):
next level.

Speaker 4 (49:48):
Thank you so much for sharing that story, and I
think that it really captured the essence of your why
you know and why we need you right now in
this world more than you probably realize. I think a
lot of young ones are are lost, you know, and

(50:08):
they feel lost even as they're pursuing their careers, and
a lot of them don't have someone in their corner
to tell them, hey, I'm proud of you, and hey
you can do this. Hey I got your back. You know,
a lot of it is, you know, a lot of
these young ones are in an autopilot because this is
what they're supposed to do. They are told they're supposed
to do to make it in this world, and they

(50:30):
don't really have that kind of back bonus support that
they need to carry it through. And I think what
you're doing by stepping in this position as a mentor
and as a leader and as a coach, is absolutely
vital to let the younger generation understand that they're not alone,
that there are those who truly vouch for them without
any ulterior moment, you know what I mean.

Speaker 13 (50:52):
That's right, absolutely, you know, and we live sometimes people
you know, use the excuse of, you know, young adults
don't want to hear what I have to say, or
they don't want to hear me. But I can't tell
you how many young adults I've run into that have
leaned in and they want to hear what I have

(51:12):
to say they are willing to use the advice. I
had a young lady reach out to me on LinkedIn
once and she was just graduating college and her mother
had died many years ago. She was raised by her grandmother,
and she had no earthly idea where to go next,

(51:34):
and she asked me to mentor her. Well, it turned
into an amazing friendship because a lot of times people
think that just because someone's younger than you, you know,
they don't have anything to tell you. Well, she came
from a marginalized community, you know, didn't have a lot

(51:55):
of mentors or people that you know, really shared in
her story or that she wanted to trust for her story.
And I was honored that she trusted me to help
guide her to her next career. She now, you know,
that's been five years ago, and she still continues to

(52:17):
reach out and ask questions and share her story. And
that's that's really what it's all about, just giving back.

Speaker 4 (52:25):
Wow, thank you so much for sharing that. Now you
have core values and principles that continue to guide through
a decision making process, Doctor Osborne, can you tell us
a little bit about what those core values are?

Speaker 13 (52:38):
Absolutely, my core values, you know, I heard someone say
this the other day and it really embodies the essence
of what I believe in, you know, and that is
be brave, you know, think about how you can be
kind to someone and how how can you help the

(53:00):
generation of talent. So my core value, one of my
core values is teaching and learning. I am a lifelong learner.
I enjoy learning new things and then sharing that knowledge
with other people. And another one of my core values
is just do right.

Speaker 1 (53:24):
Just you know.

Speaker 13 (53:24):
I know that's not a one word phrase, but just
do right by people because I really believe it'll come back.

Speaker 4 (53:33):
Thank you so much for sharing that now. I know
that life is full of struggles and challenges. If you
shared one of those challenges that you face, you know,
in your career as you were coming up, and somebody
reached out and mentored you. Now, as our young ones
face challenges to their careers and into their life, do
you have any words of advice for them that will

(53:54):
help them kind of push to that next level.

Speaker 13 (53:58):
Yes, I would definitely say deep breathing, learn how to
own your breath. And I know that that sounds, you know,
a little strange, but there is a scientific phenomenon behind breathing,
and sometimes we don't take the opportunity to pause. Life

(54:22):
is full of you know, vigor. Everything needed to happen yesterday.
People are nervous. We're living in a culture where everything
is a fear tactic. Oh my god, what's going to happen?
But if you just take an opportunity to just pause

(54:43):
and think about what can I what is a solution
to this situation? You know, and our brains are just
wired to give us solutions, if you know. I remember
when I was younger, my dad told me, you know,
he said, you can always think of a reason why
you can't do something, but turn that and think about

(55:06):
how you can do something. And I really believe that
it's in your perspective, you know, and not allowing fear
to overtake you. Because there will always be challenges in life.
There will always be circumstance. It's a part of life.
It's you know, it's it's just life. But it's how

(55:28):
you respond to it. It's what's going to make the
difference in a young person's life. So I would definitely
tell them, you know, it takes courage, It takes courage
to continue moving forward. But if you continue moving forward
and don't give up. You can make it.

Speaker 8 (55:47):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
I think that is some excellent advice. And I know
that our young women out there with they're hard to
see that, and it's very true. I love the I
love the inspiration, and I also love the legacy that
you are creating and seeking to give to our next generation.
It's very inspiring. Now, I do have another question, because

(56:11):
you know, doctor Osborne, there no doubt are going to
be some individuals who are gonna want to take you
up on that coaching, and maybe some other universities and
other schools who would love to have you come speak.
So how would we get in contact.

Speaker 13 (56:24):
I am on LinkedIn, Burdell Osborne, and I do everything
on LinkedIn right now, so I think that is the
connect with me on LinkedIn.

Speaker 4 (56:34):
And so for those of you guys who are listening
are watching clips of this on social media, I do
want you to take a look at the description in
the show. Right next to Verdela Osborne, you'll see a
link to her LinkedIn so that you can reach out
and contact her for coaching, for speaking and getting to
know more about the legacy that she is creating and

(56:58):
how she is impacting students. Globally well, doctor Osborne. I
want to say that it's been an absolute honor of
having you on today's show, and we look forward to
what more is in store for you in twenty twenty
five and twenty twenty six. I know that you have
a company launch coming pretty soon. You know, you know
you're pursuing your doctors, so that's going to becoming. You

(57:20):
have a lot of great things in the work in
twenty twenty five twenty twenty six, and so we're super
excited to see you know where you're headed in and
all those wonderful individuals that you will be inspiring along
the way. Now, before we do let you go, is
anything that you'd like to say with us, say to us,
give us any party, pieces of advice, any antidotes.

Speaker 13 (57:38):
Absolutely, you know, I would just encourage you. If you
have a goal or something that you are really you know,
afraid of for not sure how to achieve that goal,
I would just say, break it down into bite sized
pieces and make it happen. Take that courage on the road.

(57:59):
I definitely am one that believes in vision boards. So
no matter where I go, whether it's on vacation or
whether you know, I go to a class or whatever
the case may be. That vision board is there with
me and it consistently reminds me of who I am
and where I want to go, and so I would

(58:20):
encourage you to do that. Take your make your life.
I always use this phrase, you know, treat your life
like a business. And if you treat your life like
a business, if you enjoy the process, it will reward
you every time. So thank you so much for having me, Joseph.
It's been my pleasure.

Speaker 4 (58:41):
Well, it is such an honor having you. And thank
you for those party pieces of advice. I received them,
We receive them, and we thank you so much for
everything that you're doing for for our global community and
especially for our young people. Now, for those of you
guys listening at home, this is not the end of
the show. Don't go anywhere just yet. Please stay tuned
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(59:07):
going on you guys. This is Joseph Bonner and welcome
back to the Joseph Barner Show. As always, we bring
you inspiration from some of the most brightest minds in
the world, and today we are honored to welcome the
CEO and co founder of La Latch Limited, which will
soon the name will be changed to Natally, but we

(59:31):
want and introduce the founder and CEO. I'm the lat Jinadud.
Welcome to the show. How are you doing today?

Speaker 15 (59:39):
I'm fine, Thank you, thanks for having me here. Really excited.

Speaker 4 (59:44):
Well, we're super excited to have you.

Speaker 15 (59:46):
You know.

Speaker 4 (59:46):
Now we're California base, you know, California life, living and
the sun. But your author in London, UK. How's the
weather today for you?

Speaker 15 (59:54):
It's getting there, We're getting our summer. The sun's out.

Speaker 4 (59:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (59:58):
We had a bit of snow actually last month, so
oh wow.

Speaker 4 (01:00:04):
Yeah, you know, we get we get a little snow
here in San Diego, but I typically stay away from
the mountains, so I'm like, put me over there by
the beach, you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (01:00:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
Well, you you have a really powerful personal journey about
overcoming and helping to rather illusionize, you know, care for women,
women of color, and I want to talk a little
bit about that. So first of all, tell me a

(01:00:39):
little bit about your company, La Latch and how you
guys do Yes.

Speaker 15 (01:00:44):
So Latch is a femtech startup and I focused on
addressing early health disparities and disparities in fraternity of paranatal
health and social care. The idea was inspired by my
own personal struggles with parenting. Unfortunately, during my lefear, I
experienced a spinal injury which then led to post labor

(01:01:06):
paralysis and had to go through significant physiotherapy and rehab
and just relearning how to navigate my normal day to
day whilst raising two very small children. But throughout that
whole time, many different experiences within public health and social

(01:01:26):
care led me to realize and to understand how much
how much gaps need to be filled in the system
for families to optimal, to function optimally, and just to
level out the playing field. And just through research, I
began to really realize how much support needs to be

(01:01:46):
in place, And also just through my own studies with tech,
I just began to realize that there's a really an
opportunity here to use technology to support families and to
really address some of the health and social care disparities,
especially those experienced by BAME women. I feel like in

(01:02:07):
the UK in the US there's a lot of racial
disparities that then then translate into issues like not understanding
certain simple things like pain tolerance, for instance, and.

Speaker 16 (01:02:19):
You know it sounds and it sounds scary too, like
just hearing about your your initial experience, you know, coming
into you know, already a very difficult.

Speaker 4 (01:02:30):
Situation for women to go through, you know, labor and
giving birth, and then to have on top of that
to deal with a spinal cord injury and and and
losing feelings and limbs. It's it's it's that must have
been terrified. I guess my question is how were you

(01:02:51):
able to channel I mean just the initial you know,
feelings of despair from from the event, and to be
able to, like, you know what, I can make a difference.

Speaker 15 (01:03:05):
I think, you know, I was fortunate that before I
had my spinal injury, I met a few people that
had disabilities, and I saw how they were still able
to live fulfilling lives. So I knew through my own
past experiences that you can still be happy and still
cope and adjust around the disability to still have a

(01:03:27):
good experience and to still have a fulfilling life. So
I think that for me made a big difference in
how I accepted andjusted to my own disability. And I
always just feel like, I think the way I was
raised in terms of spirituality, that these things are tests

(01:03:47):
in life and that from that you can derive positive
experiences that can actually lead to something greater. So I
always saw things that happened, things are traumatic as they
can lead to a greater purpose and can actually I
can derive a lot of meaning from that. So I
guess in that sense I was fortunate to have that

(01:04:12):
perspective before this happened. So for me, when I had
the onset paralysis, I did. I did accept that, you know,
this might be my life. I might might not have
the full capacity to move around, I might be paralyzed
from the chest down, but I still think that, you know,

(01:04:37):
there are amazing people out there that I've seen do
amazing things that this might not be it for me.
And I was grateful that I had that experience prior
to having paralysis.

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
Absolutely well, thank you so much for sharing that. And
I have another question and it relates to just what
you yourself have seen to be effective strategies. So mean,
what strategies have you found to be most effective in
challenging institutional negligence towards Black and Bay.

Speaker 15 (01:05:14):
Yes, I think it's difficult because when you're going through
systemic negligence. Like I've seen a lot of poor practice
in public health as a patient, and you feel very
vulnerable in that situation. I think it's important, if it's

(01:05:35):
possible a person should have a support network when you're
going to be in hospital for long treatments or long
courses of treatments. I think it's impossible. I think it's
not impossible. So I think it's important to have family,
to have friends, to have some sort of support system,
whether it's having an advocate. You need somebody to support you,

(01:05:57):
I think at that level of vulnerability. But I also
think also empowering yourself, so knowing what your rights are,
knowing what should happen, knowing who to refer issues on
internally if you're in the public health system and experiencing
that negligence, Really educating yourself on your rights. And I

(01:06:20):
think AI is amazing. I use AI when advocating for
myself or my children, you know, helping to draft letters,
helping to find services that you may not be aware of.
It can be a really supportive tool to advocate for families,
and so I found that to be very useful. Now

(01:06:42):
that it's become such a common knowledge, it's been a really,
I think it's a really important tool to help families to.

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
Navigate I can. I'm so glad that you mentioned that
because that was literally my next question. So I'm going
to have you elaborate. I love this because I feel
like we're on the same page. It comes to this.
So my next question, which you kind of already touched on,
was in what ways can emerging technologies such as AI, right,

(01:07:09):
even telemedicine or even you know, wearable health devices, how
can they be leveraged to kind of close the gaps
in maternal health care, particularly to prevent life altering injuries
like you know, post labor spinal core damage.

Speaker 15 (01:07:24):
Yes, so I think AI is for me. I'll go
through how I personally use it. So I guess I'm
very keen to use AI, especially chat GPT to support
with self advocacy because I think once you're in the
social health, social and healthcare system, you're dependent on their services.

(01:07:46):
You really do need to make it clear to the
providers that you're aware of your rights, you know how
to support yourself, and you know where to go if
things go wrong. So for me, what I find I
find very useful is create prompts for myself. So for instance,
let's say I want to request a service I can

(01:08:08):
you can simply write into chat ept to just bullet
point the main points you want to put down. So,
maybe you want to be referred to a physiotherapy service.
Maybe your doctor has said that that's not possible. You
could say I want to, for instance, if I want
to be referred to such and such service, you can
put that out as a bullet point. The other bullet

(01:08:28):
point can be please also provide me with information on
my legal rights to be able to be referred. And
then also you can put another prompt into the chat
EPT and you can also make a request to also
ask for the internal policies for that particular service. And

(01:08:50):
normally it can be helpful, may it may not. Sometimes
with if you as if you use deep sec, it
might be a bit more helpful in accessing certain platforms.
Sometimes with some g you might find that it can't
access certain platforms, so you'll need to have those documents
printed from the particular web page of that company or

(01:09:11):
organization that you're using. But what it can do is
it can go through that document and then provide the
policies that are relevant to your issue. And I think
that that's really important because it really does create strong
advocacy and kind of makes it clear to the service
providers that, Okay, we have to take this person seriously,

(01:09:32):
because sometimes what happens. I don't know if it's the
same in the US, but in the UK sometimes you
can find of be put on the back burner and
they might prioritize somebody else who they feel is more
vulnerable or more or they might feel it's a more
pressing matter. And I think when it comes to being
a black person, sometimes we're kind of misconstrued as being

(01:09:55):
strong and capable, sometimes more than is fear and more
far more then, and it should never be that we're
considered less vulnerable than somebody with the same conditions as ourselves.
But I think there's a desensitization when it comes to
black people in vulnerable health situations. Unfortunately. I think as

(01:10:16):
we get more representation within public health and private health,
that should change. But I think there's systemic issues within
public health that mean, unfortunately that we're still not seeing
those disparities addressed. There's internal politics. I don't know how
is in the US, but you can sometimes see as

(01:10:36):
a patient toxic work dynamics where there's a hierarchy of
racial preference and you see people of your same color
not supporting each other or not supporting you, and so
you need to kind of unfortunately find ways to make
sure that you're putting yourself at the forefront. And I
think technology can really help to create very good documents,

(01:11:01):
create very good arguments to support yourself. But I think
it should never be a one person show in that scenario.
Always have an advocate, have war the world, have family
behind you, if you have good relationships with family, if
you have close friends, always have some sort of support system.
And if you're very isolated due to health, there are

(01:11:25):
services that can provide a support network, a support system
of people that might have issue.

Speaker 4 (01:11:31):
Yeah, I appreciate that because I do want to circle
back a little bit. It's something that you touched on
because I think it's so important to understand and also
for those in the medical profession just to kind of
be able to pivot and see points of reference that
they can incorporate in their structure. Now, let's go back

(01:11:55):
to cultural competency and medical training. Now, what key changes
would you personally recommend in medical education and even clinical training?
To address these biases that we're seeing and actually improve
cultural competency in the treatment of black NBA and the patients.

Speaker 15 (01:12:16):
Yes, you know, it's a very interesting thing because when
I was working in public health and also when I
worked in disability health inclusion within civil service in the UK,
they do do someone with training which is quite interesting
and it's interesting how when it comes to operationally, how

(01:12:38):
people kind of just forget the training. And what I
found is that people being human beings, kind of whizz
through the training. So it's a multiple choice. They want
to finish it quickly because they want to get on
with the things that are really important to them within
the role. And I think there needs to be a
bit more accountability through the system you through the training.

(01:13:01):
But I think because it's an internal issue, it's not
just a matter of training, it's a matter of human
resources as well, where there needs to be more systems
in place to make sure that if you're from an
ethnic minority, if you're from a different demographic that's a
minority maybe disabled employee as well, that you are feeling

(01:13:26):
like you're not going through more hurdles than your coworkers
or your colleagues within that environment.

Speaker 4 (01:13:33):
So I have two questions in regards to that. Yes,
So the first one has to do with going back
to the training, right, yeah, where you mentioned that there
are you know, training is provided, but that you're saying
that even with the training, these medical professionals are still
leaning back on experience and personal preference as opposed to
the training, which is very concerning, but still, you know,

(01:13:57):
being that we're humans, it's awful, completely understandable. So when
you're talking about making sure that you're people that they're incorporating, maybe,
I don't know, for the lack of a better better word,
like bellface, you know, if if the training is not
being implemented, you know what bell says, are in place

(01:14:17):
so that the patient, you know, has an outlet to
voice their concerns and get the services that they deserve.

Speaker 15 (01:14:26):
I think that there needs to be more monitoring personally
and not in the sense of micro management, but where
we are actually having input on the patient experience. So
if a patient is in the system that they are
able to and without feeling like they're doing anything extra,
it's already systemically in place where they're able to love

(01:14:48):
their experiences of appointments, their experiences of treatment, and this
is a standard practice, not just you know, something that
they do when something bad happens. And I think if
it's incorporated as part of their treatment where they're saying
at disappointment, I felt very anxious. I think this could
help to address some of the disparities that we face,

(01:15:11):
especially in maternity, because anxiety interests can translate into poor recovery,
harm to the fetus during labor, it can translate into
other injuries, whether emotional or physical. So I think that
actually there needs to be a concrete feedback system in

(01:15:33):
place throughout the course of treatment. And I think if
there is a real feedback system in place where we're
getting ideas on how the patient is feeling throughout the treatment,
that this will help to I think, improve diagnosis and
improve the outcomes for the patient.

Speaker 4 (01:15:52):
First of all, let me say this, I think that
is a brilliant idea. Just in all honesty, there was
a system in place to where the patient was able
to communicate how they're feeling through the process and then
have that information review not only by the on site
medical staff, but then their supervisors and their supervisors supervisors,

(01:16:15):
and there's you know what I mean, There is a
way to set up a system like that to where
there is accountability on all levels, which I think would
also make people more When I'm saying more people, more
of the medical staff more conscious to make sure that
they are giving everyone the same level of treatment. That's
a brilliant night.

Speaker 15 (01:16:36):
Yeah, yeah, and that's one of the things that we
want to address through our stafftop as well. But we
think that, you know, it's really a no brainer. I think,
you know, especially when you're thinking of traditions that are
very neurosensitives are very sensitive to responding to interactions, responding
to the environment. But for instance, I have a neurological

(01:16:58):
or muscular scity to so anxiety can then manifest itself
in other symptoms physically similarly labor As I mentioned before,
anxiety can really make a big difference in health outcomes
for a lot of women. So you know, I think
it's really important that they think about these things. You know,

(01:17:21):
my late mother who passed away in twenty twenty two,
she was very anxious during her own health care before
she passed away, and I think perhaps if they've found
ways to manage anxiety, it might have given her more
of a fighting chance during her post surgery care. And
I think it's really really important that they find ways

(01:17:45):
to reduce the cost because it's not just about it's
you know, the most important part is the human the
human life and the human experience and injury. But on
the other side of the things, there's also billions being
lost to negligent claims every year in the UK and
in the US and in most of the developed world.
So it's really important to really leverage the technology that's

(01:18:09):
out there to really address these issues and to really
reduce the costs because they will translate back into better
healthcare services if they're not being wasted on negligence claims
that could be easily avoided just by being more accommodated,
just by being more understanding, just by being more empathetic
and situationally aware of the patient.

Speaker 4 (01:18:30):
Wow, and I think you really touched on my next question.
And I know I've asked this already, but I'm going
to go out and ask the question just so that
you can elaborate if it can be elaborator now. And
that has to do with the intersections of race, you know, gender,
social economic status. You know that that truly does contribute

(01:18:50):
to disparities in maternal health care I get. My question
is you know what interventions have proven of effective in
mitigating these inequalities.

Speaker 15 (01:19:07):
Yeah, I think there's I think there's many different interventions
that can really make a difference. I know, like for
instan the UK, we are we're doing a lot of
pilot schemes. There's a lot of programs now which are
introducing technology, and as I mentioned before, I think technology
can really be a good intervention to support families, to

(01:19:29):
improve the quality of care and to then reduce the disparities.
Especially we have more monitoring and easier ways to monitor
and easier ways to communicate. So we're seeking a lot
more now of RPM which are remote patient monitoring systems,
both in maternity and also in other areas of patient care,

(01:19:49):
which means that it's easier now for specialties to access
biometrical information remotely, so the patient could be at home
and the doctor could easily especially specialists could easily access
important health information and I feel that that really helps
with diagnosis and with understanding conditions better. Alongside technology, I

(01:20:13):
think one of the things that does make a difference
is increasing diversity within public health and private health. But
I think you know It's that age old tell of
you know, if you're from the same demographic, you're going
to understand more of the cultural behaviors, eating habits, how

(01:20:34):
people navigate throughout their day, understand pain tolerances, because unfortunately,
there is a disparity in understanding pain tolerance, especially when
it comes to black people and black women, for instance,
in labor and I think it's really really it does
make a difference in diagnosis if your specialist is from
the same ethnicity. Sometimes our pain isn't always understood well,

(01:20:59):
unfortunately by people outside of our own our own demographic,
And I think that these these different solutions really do help.
I think a solution which I don't see existing and
I think needs to exist within public health space is
having advocates with the within the patient wards so that

(01:21:19):
they're easily accessible, able to protect the patient's rights, and
able to provide more accountability and support. I think not
only would that help with the patient experience, but it
will also improve accountability and reduced negligence costs as well.
So I think that these types of interventions are really
important in terms of ADVOCACYBC. We're seeing more charities and

(01:21:43):
more organizations becoming more accessible within the UK, but I
think I think there needs to be access actually in
your operational areas on the ground, within the patient areas,
public health services that they're available within within those spaces.

Speaker 4 (01:22:03):
Here's my question. Yeah, and I think you know it's
something like a like a liaison committee, right that that
specifically is designed to address these Yeah.

Speaker 15 (01:22:17):
Certainly they kind of operate externally, almost like from a
different lag. Yeah, the system.

Speaker 4 (01:22:24):
Yeah, yes, exactly, exactly. That's again brilliant, brilliant, and it
sounds like and correct me if I'm wrong. It sounds
like that's something that you're that your company also is
is positioning itself to do.

Speaker 15 (01:22:41):
Guyes. We are.

Speaker 14 (01:22:43):
We are.

Speaker 15 (01:22:43):
We are looking at multiple different things, so we're working
on our technology side of things and we also work
on so for us, we've been very very active, especially
with International Women's Month, Women's Day and also the U
s C s w c C. We've been very very
vocal about maternal rights, maternity, paternity care and safety for

(01:23:07):
women and children. And one of the services we want
to offer is work within the community, where we provide
workshops and educational events and also advocacy, which is what
our application that we're working out the moment. Will also
provide is that support during treatment, during appointments, so that

(01:23:28):
parents can have that accountability there to have when they
need it. And it's all personalized through some of the
technology deep technology we're using such as automation, and this
just means that every parent is having a service which
is personally catered to them. And also they're also getting

(01:23:50):
that support where they're able to have or feel like
they have somebody holding their hand throughout the appointment, so
it's not just them seeing maybe multiple different stuff involved
in their treatment and don't really know exactly what's going
on to have a vague idea, but you know, maybe

(01:24:10):
some things are not communicating communicated carely, especially in a
fast paced healthcare system.

Speaker 4 (01:24:15):
And so will you have like me just asking because
it sounds like this is kind of where you're headed
to just in regards with with with the structure of
your company, you know, being that there are so many
issues happening international, are you going to have like a

(01:24:35):
network of volunteers that you can send into these hospitals
to to to be by some of these people, you know,
to visit really all these patients who far into this
this category and to be by their side, kind of
helping them to mitigate through, you know, the ups and
downs and challenges that they may face, and then not
fill alone through the process.

Speaker 15 (01:24:55):
Yes, that's something that we're working on at the moment.
So we are providing clunal support where we do bring
people in to volunteer and support vulnerable families that are
in the health and social care system.

Speaker 4 (01:25:09):
And that's one of the things I love about women
as well women as just you. Again, I was raised
by women, so I've seen the strength of women when
they come together for something amazing, and to me, I've
always been thoroughly inspired by it. And I could just
imagine and in envision how many women would would would

(01:25:30):
jump for the cause, to volunteer for your organization, to
be able to be there on the front lines for
women going through these difficulties. And you are some of
the most resilient, brilliant minds of the world. And I
just love where your I love where your where your
company is, I love your vision, and I love where

(01:25:50):
you're headed. It's so inspired.

Speaker 15 (01:25:54):
Thank you, and it means a lot. I think, you know,
these are type of issues that really really affect peop people,
and I think when you understand through your own lived experience,
whether it's firsthand or through a female that you know,
it was your mother or sister or a close friend,
you can really it can really spark the fire and

(01:26:15):
a person to really get out there and to really
support addressing some of these disparities. And I think especially
in labor, I think that's one of the most vulnerable
times for women is when you're in labor, you're in
this severe pain, your mind isn't the same as it
normally is because you're so focused on the pain and

(01:26:35):
on delivering the child. It's a really, really vulnerable time
and it's an easy time where you're not able to
really advocate for yourself. So, you know, it really is
something that I think can really you know, get people motivated,
you know. And I think I don't know how the
healthcare is completely in the US, but over here we're
having a lot of shortages in nurses, in midwives at

(01:26:59):
the moment, there's a lot of disparities around health and
social care in general. We had the Birth Strawberry inquiries
in twenty twenty three and they're still on going to
investigations into some of the disparities in public health and
in general. I have to say, there's a lot of
work that needs to be done, but we find that statistically,

(01:27:23):
you know, the statistics are still very poor. So for
black women, one in four Black women are at risk
of dying during labor. That's a real, really worry, really worrying,
and you know, the disparities are really really really for me,
I just don't believe they should exist in the twenty
first century, as I'm sure most people do. It's just

(01:27:46):
very absurd when you start to read about how much
disparities there are for families that have special educational needs.
There's still loads of gaps in the system. You find
loads of families kind of deciding to support themselves, to
be the advocate, to be the social worker. There's a
lot of work that needs to be done, and I

(01:28:07):
think technology it's a blessing in a sense that we
can really use it to fill out those gaps without
it being as costly as it would be if you're
hiring physical people just to fill out those disparities and
staff shortages. I think it could really help to save
a lot of lives and help to really support a
lot of families.

Speaker 4 (01:28:28):
Thank you so much for sharing that. Now, I do
have another question for you. Yeah, what would a truly
inclusive and equitable healthcare system look like for black and
bea any women?

Speaker 15 (01:28:42):
Yeah, I would say that we have in general ad
a good affair and good treatment. So we're getting the
right diagnosis, we're getting to support similar to our white counterparts.
You know, we're getting good quality of care. We're not
experiencing racial aggressions or microaggressions in public health. Even prior

(01:29:06):
to my to to really working as full time in
my startup, I remember working as an advocate myself, so
a dignity champion with a government department over here which
which audits and tricks checks public health institutions called the
c QC. So I was with a company under them

(01:29:29):
called health Watch. And whilst I whilst I was working
within that field and being an advocate, I do remember
in my own personal experience as a patient seeing real
racial aggressions, to real racial slurs, real friending behavior not
only to myself but to other patients. And you know,

(01:29:51):
these types of things shouldn't exist, but they exist because
of poor funding going into public health and understand figure unfortunately,
which means that they're desperate to keep people that really
shouldn't be working within the field. And I think if
we're looking at an equitable, fair public health service, it

(01:30:14):
should just be fair, equal treatment, access to the right
services when you need them, not having to worry about
going into a public health institution and thinking, you know,
I have to change the way I am or the
way I come across because I might be treated unfairly
by certain members of health staff. You know, there's a
lot of people who I speak to who feel very

(01:30:35):
anxious going into the hospital. I don't know how it
is in the US, but over here there's a lot
of anxiety about interacting with public health services from certain
demographics that are minorities, because they're worried about how they're
going to be received and how they're going to be treated.
And I think that these things significantly impact people that

(01:30:56):
are within the lower socioeconomic background. So we're talking about
working class, lower middle class especially that might not have
the luxury of private health or or you know, yeah,
it might not have the luxury of private health as
an option, and so it's longer waiting times as well.

(01:31:22):
I think some of this definitely depends on funding, but
I also think that there's things that could be done
internally to make sure that people are getting a fair
and equal treatment, and I think that's the only way
to actually reduce a lot of the negligence claims. As
I've mentioned.

Speaker 4 (01:31:37):
Before, Yeah, absolutely, And you really have highlighted really the
shifts and mindsets that needs to occur at every level
of care. And I think what you're doing is not
only revolutionary, but I think it's so needed, especially as
we head into twenty twenty five twenty twenty six. And
a question I do want to ask you to underlie

(01:32:00):
you speak about your own personal experiences and what really
led you to this path. And I guess my final
question for you is this is as we head on
into twenty twenty six, you know, with the vision for
your company and and for women who face racism and

(01:32:21):
so much abuse even in the healthcare system, Now, what
message do you have for those women and what message
do you have in the world.

Speaker 15 (01:32:32):
So in terms of the women that are in the system, me,
I'm still myself within the system because of my own
health issues. I still, despite having some recovery, still have
a disability myself. So I can already say that we
need to make sure that we have, as I mentioned
at the beginning, a good support system around you. And

(01:32:54):
if you don't have that, you can create that. So
perhaps you don't have family, and maybe you don't have
a lot of friends, but there are advocates, there are
charities out there. In the UK, there's another of charities
that could connect you with other people go through the
same thing. So for instance, we have a charity called
Scope in the UK, we have Disability Rights UK. There's

(01:33:18):
a loads and there's also health Watch where I used
to work previously, and all these services could connect you
to other advocates, other advocacy services to support you understand
what your rights are, understand the policies within the healthcare
system that support your rights. Make sure you have access
to tools like AI to help you to draft letters

(01:33:40):
and communications so that they're coherents, so that they refer
to these rights when you need them. And really, really
it's really really important to make sure you have all
these tools around you so that if you're in the system,
you're getting the service that you deserve and the service
that you need. And to have patience and as they say,

(01:34:03):
self care is always important to make your life peaceful
surround yourself with people that are supportive, create an atmosphere
that's going to help you to feel relaxed. Do things
that make you happy and make you feel make your
mood optimal, you know, engaging in recreational activities that will

(01:34:26):
help to lift your mood. And you know, help her
self get strong. So exercise, you know, as much as
it's possible for and practical for every individual. And you know,
improve your diet. It's something I'm working on. I have
the best diet myself, but I think working on your
health and well being can really help to keep your

(01:34:49):
mind in the right place and just have people around
you that are support To excuse me, I've got a
bit of a cold, so it's kind of interfering with
what I'm saying about. I think that is really important
to create an environment where your mood is being uplifted
in the best possible way and use the tools out

(01:35:11):
there that are available. And I also think that therapy
is really important when you're going through a health crisis,
you're going through long term treatment, make sure that you
have access to a good therapy service. Well you're able
to talk about things if you don't feel that you
have that avenue through personal relationships. I think it's important

(01:35:36):
to have some way of talking about your personal experience
and your mental health and well being. And you know,
don't beat yourself up if you're not always able to
stand up for yourself where you're vulnerable, but always find
the ways to protect yourself from from harm. Through understanding

(01:35:59):
the policy is understanding the rights, I get access to
the right services to support you, included advocacy. So I
apologize if I've been a bit repetitive, but I think that.

Speaker 4 (01:36:09):
Well, I think, no, you're absolutely right, and I think
a lot of it bears repeating, you know, in the fact,
the fact is, and the fact remains, is that you
know there is still not enough being done for women
of color, and it bears repeating over and over and
over again until we see the change that women deserve.

(01:36:32):
And so I I champion you for work, for joining
in this fight and using your platform to help and
support women in some of the most vulnerable situations that
they can ever find themselves in, especially dealing with health crisis.
So thank you so much for everything that you're doing
at La latch and and and the change that you

(01:36:56):
are sparking through innovation and your company and those of
you out there who are listening and you would like
to visit her website, it's La Latch dot com. You
will see a link in the description of the show.
Wherever you happen to be listening to this podcast, I
want you to visit, reach out and find a way

(01:37:16):
to get involved, because it is one of the best
things that you could be doing. I'm supporting other women
of color and letting them know that they do not
stand alone in this fight. And for Underla, your journey
is I feel just beginning, even though you've done so
much already. I feel like you're going to go so

(01:37:39):
far with this, not only because of your passion in
your heart, but because you are really inspiring change.

Speaker 15 (01:37:47):
Thank you so much, and if you and all those
who are listening, please start up to the news letter
because we're going to keep you updated on what we're doing.
Are there the events that we're running. We're looking at
running a few events this year virtually as well. We
really want to engage with families. I think the recession
is a good time for us to bond, you know,
as we get head closer closer to so many different struggles.

(01:38:08):
I think it's a time that we could come together
and really think about how we can really support each other.
I think that's a really important, big reality to do,
and I hope that that's what we're able to do well.

Speaker 4 (01:38:22):
I believe that you're going to do that and much
much more. Andilla, thank you so much for joining us
on today's segment. We were thrilled to have you, and
this interview certainly did not disappoint. You are always welcome
to come back on the show anytimes. Please keep up,
keep us in the loop, let us know how your
company is progressing, Let us know when you have volunteer

(01:38:42):
opportunities opened up, so that we can let the world
know and have them come.

Speaker 2 (01:38:46):
To support you.

Speaker 8 (01:38:48):
Thank you very much.

Speaker 15 (01:38:49):
I definitely will keep you posted and please sign up.
All those people that are listening really appreciate you listening,
and thank you so much for having me here. It's
been a real pleasure and I'm just so grateful for
the opportunity to just discuss this issue. I think more
we need to open the door to more conversations about
this because in the twenty first century, the statistics should

(01:39:12):
not be the way they are at the moment. It's
really such a shock what you start to delve in
even surface level statistics. It's just it's unfortunate that that's
where we are in the twenty first century.

Speaker 4 (01:39:26):
Absolutely, And for those of you who want to be
a part of, you know, the movement and also sign
up for the newsletter again, you can visit the Latch
or LA Latch club dot com. It's LA l A
T C h C l U B dot com. Again,
that link will be in the description of the show.
And before we let you guys go at home again,

(01:39:47):
always thank you for joining us here at the Joseph
Bonner Show. You know, today's show is brought to you
by the Bully Avengers, continuing to fight for our women
and children internationally. The most vulnerable are not vulnerable when
we stand together to support. So thank you so much
for your support of the Bully Avengers as well on
the lat we appreciate your support as well as you

(01:40:08):
and joining us in this fight for our women and
children international.

Speaker 15 (01:40:13):
Thank you very much. Once again, I'm definitely gonna come back.
You'll see me soon.

Speaker 4 (01:40:19):
Oh we would love to have you. Thank you so much.
And before we let you guys go at home, stay tuned,
do not go anywhere just yet, because we got to
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