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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, I have danger vou but you won't because you
are none there. We started the show on my end
about four or five minutes ago and then found out that, oh, yeah,
you guys are muted, and it's all it's on my end.
Somehow I screwed up. I have to play around with

(00:21):
all kinds of little dials here reducing noise and all
that kind of stuff, and somehow I ended up muting
our feet. So, uh, we got a little practice of
the opening before. Bert is here from from New Jersey,
the state of New Jersey, not this New Jersey city proper.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
He's good morning Canada. I mean what city would even
people chalk it up to? You know what I mean,
It's like what city? So it's New York City?

Speaker 1 (00:47):
The people okay, but isn't there What's what's the biggest
like Trenton, what's the biggest New Jersey city?

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Newark is probably the biggest city in New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
And what do you think the population of that is?
I have no idea, Okay, but it's like it's is
it more just kind of a burrow?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
No, Newark's a big city and it's got an airport,
it has a downtown, there's you know, Uh, there's headquarters
of kind of audibles down there.

Speaker 1 (01:12):
Okay, so there's other figure stuff happening.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Yeah. Uh see, the New York population is about three
hundred thousand. Okay, so it's a Brenton eighty nine thousand,
well eighty nine thousand, Yeah, Trenton is eighty nine.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Oh okay, okay, Yeah, so the Jersey.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Is three oh five, and then Jersey City is to
eighty six, which is a Jersey city might as well
be called you know, West New York.

Speaker 1 (01:34):
Right, it's just like across.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
All those cities along the river.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Yeah, Virgin Tunnel crowd right, Uh, it is Josh Holliday Live.
I'm Josh. That's Bert in the US of A. I'm
I've gotta do this. I'm gonna plug a movie. I've
been working on a movie. Yeah, a little well, I
would say more of it like a short film. I
did this summer, just under twenty minutes long shot it

(01:58):
in uh in June at Wolfstock, which is the largest
North America's largest festival for dogs, is what they claim
and editing all summer had a little friends and family
screening in a in a screening room here in Toronto
this week and now it's available to watch for free

(02:20):
at Steve Hammerstone dot com. Steve Hammerstone is the name
of this character who's a small town not so bright
radio host.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
I like that that could ever still happen. That's why
this is a fantasy.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
That there's an actual real person how to read it?

Speaker 2 (02:39):
Or that someone could you know, make a living in
a small town as a radio host and then be
sent somewhere.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Yeah, it's true. There's not a lot of budget for
any of that. No, but so I guess it's it's
it's semi fictional, and maybe it's of a certain age.
I'll say, anyway, you can. You can go and check
it out. Stevehammerstone dot com is the place to go

(03:08):
and check that out. Uh I. I was working down
downtown at the at the National Broadcaster doing some mixing
stuff this week, just radio behind the scenes junk, and
I went to the bathroom. I will say I'm not
much of it. I don't know if it's because myself
esteem is so low over the years, but I'm not

(03:28):
I'm not one of those guys who spends a lot
of time like greening in the mirror or looking in
the mirror.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Although you don't have you know how it's the hair.

Speaker 1 (03:36):
Yeah, but there's still guys who are.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
Going to mess with the hair. Yeah, but there's still
guys get just right, the right fluffy. There's guys who
you'll see, like, you know these guys you go into
the men's room and they spend an in order amount
of time just looking at their selves. And oftentimes these
are the same guys who like, they spend a lot
of time above the sink and in the mirror, but
they don't wash their hands.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
It's all about the look. Uh, I just take a
cursory glance. Even when I did have hair, I was
just like, Okay, I don't need to look at me.
And so this week I went to the bathroom and
I looked in the mirror after as I was washing
my hands, I'm like, what the hell the hell's going
on here? I had little specs of dark matter around

(04:18):
my temple and on the side of my sort of
side of my head. And my first thought was that
it was like like you know, when spinach gets really wet,
like little pieces of wet spinach.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
That seems like you would notice the moisture.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, I just I mean, I just saw it was
just look dark, and it was Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
My theory was, which I will repeat now since we're
doing the show over deteriorating foam from like headphones or
you know, soundproofing in studios.

Speaker 1 (04:47):
Well, I think the headphone theory is probably good because
I part of my job is wearing headphones most of
the day. But my thought was if because that morning
had been particularly busy, I had to do some family
stuff where I had to go to a lawyer up
here and then I had to go down to my
mother's financial advisor downtown, and my worry was, like that

(05:11):
had been on my face since the morning, and I
thought if if, like, at what point would someone say
something to you about something on your face not knowing
what it is? You know what I mean, Like there
might be that discomfort of like, wow, maybe it's like
maybe he's got like some disease. I don't want to
draw attention to it disease, well not disease, but maybe
something's going on there that I like.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
That you're saying that it looks so integrated into your
skin that it didn't look like an actual just.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
It looked like stuff on there. But you know, matter,
people I think are still reluctant to kind of like
say oh hey, even if like my my fear always
is like I'm going to have like a boogie hanging out,
and I would you know, I would always like when
I I would always tell my friend, Okay, if you
see something, make sure you tell me if I have
like a boogiey hanging out, because it's people just.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
Like one of your Like when you make friends with somebody,
you go through a checklist, and these are are the
boundaries that tell me if I have something like no, that.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Was a lot like longtime friend, it's like, hey, you know,
make sure if something's happening there, let me know. But
but people, I think generally, like people, especially people who
don't know really well or strangers, aren't really going to
like draw ten say hey you better wipe that stuff
off because they don't know what it is, and they
you know, it could be something you know, I don't

(06:30):
know health health wise. But uh, after I got it off,
then I noticed it another time or two and I
saw it elsewhere, and so I gotta next time I'm
in there, I got to look at those headphones and
see if indeed it's it's to.

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Hear that happen. That's one of the reasons, not that
it showed up on my head, but like that, when
they get old, it sometimes not only this, which is
the foam, the leather rat also interior. Well that could
look like spinach.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
Well I found it like a piece or two in
my house, but it may have just traveled with me,
like from the from the station.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
So I got to, you know, spend some money on
this now.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Bag it up in a little bag, send it out
to lab here and get it, get it, test it out.
Maybe it's maybe it's toxic, could be talking.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Maybe it's a new substance from the world that humanity.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Instead, I mean, this is this is where the world is.
Instead of just saying, well, it's probably a foam from
my headphone. It's probably some nefarious plot by the liberals
to infect us, to see.

Speaker 2 (07:40):
Started by infinding one of their own.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yeah or yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I guess if
I was, I guess that's a problem. I'm not. I'm not.
It's hard for me to be a conspiracist because all
the conspiracies seem to be against the people on the right.

Speaker 2 (07:53):
And they're rooted in the left. We we we on
the left are so thoroughly capable getting organized that we
also have conspiracies.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Yeah, I went. My birthday was a couple of August
twenty first, it was my birthday, Thank you, sir, forty
years old. I don't know. It feels weird. It feels
weird to.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
Say it very good.

Speaker 1 (08:20):
There's a kind of a fancy restaurant I went to
with my sister. My mother gave us the credit card
and said, go have a fancy dinner there. And it
is like it's not like Michelin starred, but it's Michelin recognized.
Like there's a little plaque or whatever. So it's a
like pretty fancy.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Place through is what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
I think, yeah, And it's it's like the food is
really good. Now. My mother is homebound because of her health,
and so we ordered and then we ordered coffee and dessert,
and we ordered a piece of because they're famous for
this coconut cream pie, we ordered a coconut cream pie

(09:00):
to go. When we ordered our desserts pie.

Speaker 2 (09:04):
Yeah, that could be an eighty dollars item.

Speaker 1 (09:07):
Like probably around fifteen, but it was, uh fifteen. Was
this a slice? I think in that way a slice
to go? Yeah, just for my mother because she's at
home and we wanted to take.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
A nice I used to I thought you were saying
you got it an entire.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
No no no, but they do sell those, and I'm
sure it's like thirty forty dollars.

Speaker 2 (09:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:26):
Right, So we get our desserts and our coffees and
then he sort of forgot the about the the slice
of pie to go and he brought the bill and
I was like, oh, we forgot the slice to go,
and so at this fancy place he went and we

(09:50):
had finished kind of our coffees and desserts, then we
had to wait another like ten minutes for him to
bring just this single slice of pie. And then instead
of just saying oh, my mistake and and confident and
just saying, you know, be on your way, he brought
out a brand new bill just for that single slice
of pie. And I'm like, you're a this is like
a like that's a for a for a restaurant of

(10:13):
that caliber, that's a major like f up. Like he
if you if you mess up and you're keeping the
customer waiting ten ten extra minutes after they're done their
meal for something that you forgot, and.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
Its eyes also pre made. The piees pre made, and
it's twice in box.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
Honestly, it's not gonna call like just comp the piece
of pie and send send us on our way, don't
make us.

Speaker 2 (10:39):
The waiter would have to get the manager involved.

Speaker 1 (10:42):
I don't know if it feels like some.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Don't have comp powers as what, but it.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Feels like something that he might have done and then
just say like explained, yeah, I forgot this.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Thing on the last you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
It just really it surprised me that a restaurant of
that sort of caliber would, uh would kind of mess
up that way it felt.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
I think the most striking thing to me is that
I'm always jealous of people who can drink coffee in
the evening.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
I think it's uh decaff.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Oh well then that's good.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
But still I still think there's some it's just like
a reduced caffeine. But and I don't not often, not
often while I do that.

Speaker 2 (11:19):
I wish I could drink coffee after dinner, and I
I'm very jealous of people who can do that.

Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, it was more like it was like like a
lot taste a lot of milk, and it wasn't really
like hardcore sounds delicious. I was watching a show on
television and it was just people who had weird kind
of ability body abilities and stuff, and it got me thinking,
I've always had this thing where just by kind of

(11:45):
thinking about it, I can make white noise in my ears,
And I wonder if that's something that everybody can do.
Can you do that? Like like kind of like it's
like you're moving something inside your ears where there's white.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
And you can just think about it. You got to
move something.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
Yeah, But I feel like I'm moving something inside my
inner ear because I can create and I often used
it like, uh, if someone was if I had taped
the hockey game or something and someone was telling the scores,
I would make this white noise in my ears to
kind of block out what they were talking about.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Oh wow, that what an incredible skill. That would be.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Well, I just don't know, like I just didn't know
if that's like a regular thing for people, you know.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
I mean, I feel like in order to do this,
I would have to have something moving in my jaw
to then influence my ears. But I don't think that
you describe.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
I'm not moving my jaw. Everything's still, and.

Speaker 2 (12:39):
They lock out those that you don't want to listen to.

Speaker 1 (12:42):
I can feel a vibration like.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
With a white noise that you generate yourself.

Speaker 1 (12:47):
I don't know. It's the first time I've actually, like
I haven't really like mentioned it to people before because
I'm kind of kind of curious. I've just always sort
of had it.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Glad that you brought this here to the round.

Speaker 1 (12:56):
Tan. Yeah, I can't wigglem. I can't do any other
stuff like wiggle my nose or of that junk.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
But that's something that for ears, some people can do that.
I can't do that.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
Either, and some people can, Like I used to have
a friend who like could just flare his nostrils without
any kind of can do that. Oh you can, Okay,
so it's a good time. Yeah, it's always I wish
I had like a like of all the superpowers. That's
pretty it's pretty lame being able to create white noise.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
Like a raised eyebrow can get you by.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
I can do Yeah, I can do the both sides
of the eyebrows. That's my eyebrow work is well known
throughout the television commercial work. Yes, uh yeah, so that's okay.
So it's not well at least between the two of us,
only one of us, But maybe there's other people listening.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
That may explain. Sometimes when I'm I'm accidentally muted and
you don't notice.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
It's because my ears are white noise.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
You're aging the white noise to not listen to your
co host.

Speaker 1 (13:53):
So I was listening to an interview with Walt Walton,
Walt Goggins, Walton Goggins, you know, the actor with a
big shiny teeth from Righteous Gemstones and.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Yes, Yes, Baby Billy.

Speaker 1 (14:10):
Baby Billy. Yeah. I think he's also was on Uh,
I'm gonna forget the name of that show, kind of Justified.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
He's been in some things.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
He's in a bunch of a bunch of stuff, and
he's you know, he almost looks like an actor from
a like a like a seventies movie actor. He sort
of has that vibe to him. He was on a
show being interviewed and he was talking about how, uh,
they had a stunt, like a stunt, not a stunt

(14:39):
double body double because he was doing a full frontal
wiener thing. And it got me to thinking, what if you,
as the actor, have any kind of say over you know,
what what the wiener is like? Because basically people will
watch this not not.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
That you get to be part of wiener Ca and
you're gonna I think you should.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
Well, I just think you should be because people like casting.
I prefer it's not someone's gonna watch the movie. I
mean like, oh wow, yeah, and if it's if theer,
if it's a diminutive Wiener, people might think wow, what
Wolt Goggins has a small ween. But this is the
chance maybe to like, I either get someone who looks.

Speaker 2 (15:22):
Exactly preoccupied with this. I think that the you know,
there's there can always be an air of mystery. And
then at the same time, you know, if if I
don't think a a a a quote unquote stunt man
who's there to portray full frontal nudity is going to
be uh, he will be, It'll be fine. I feel

(15:43):
like the casting process has already weeded out those who
are diminutive. Yeah. I do the self selection as well.
Oh this is full frontal nudity. That's not my bag.
Let me move on.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Yeah that's true.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
It's like, oh well no, yeah, let me do that
because I can, I can bring it like that.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
That Yeah, you know what, that makes sense because I
as I've as I mentioned the show before, I'm a
I'm I'm a grower, not a shower.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
People do not want to know this what I'm just saying,
So only people that want to know this are people
with whom you are intimately involved.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Well that, but that's the mindset I come from.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
I'm like, oh boy, let me expose everything.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Like if I if I had like a like a
if I was a shower where all the time I
had like a decent sized thing, I would be much
more like, yeah, I'm gonna do nudity and film and stuff,
and I would be like a lot more confident.

Speaker 2 (16:38):
But at the same time, you're sitting here going like, well,
let me tell the people in radio land to the world.
I'm just I'm not saying it's my situation. I'm not
I'm not saying it's like it's just like it's fine
when it's you know, when it when it's ready to
do its business, but it kind of, you know, it's
more discreet when it's not. Well, I mean you should
be demure.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Demure, excuse me. But again, like in like locker rooms
and stuff, I'm more like kind of like shy ish
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
Locker rooms keep it demure, but there you very mindful.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
Do you have guys with with you know, and they're
just like, like about walking around.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
For the third time is to come up since I've
been doing this and I it's just there's nothing less
interesting to me than this.

Speaker 1 (17:23):
All right, Well yeah, well we haven't asked you yet,
but we won't.

Speaker 2 (17:28):
I know you have your own like hang ups about
that too. I definitely just walk through the locker room.
You're just You're just I think as I get older,
I'm like, I don't give a shoot anymore exactly That's
how it should be.

Speaker 1 (17:40):
And well I think that and you notice that with
with like old men are always the.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Ones are the least concerned.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
Yeah, nude beaches are full of old men like them. Yeah.
Well I was like, remember the scene uh in I
think it was? Was it Ken Young from the Hangover
where yeah Ken Jong? Yeah, where he came out and
you know, basically all bush and a little a little thing.
I was like, man, that is that is some brave
That is brave to do that. But again he's probably

(18:09):
the same situation, you know, but it was inspiring for
someone who's all right, uh, well you were in the
US in the A and uh, there's always a lot
of insanity happening there and we'll jump into that a
little bit in just a second. This is Canada's most

(18:31):
popular morning radio program, Believe it or not.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
Josh Holiday Live is talked at rocks.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
Like it when Josh comes up here every once in
a while and teaches us a lesson he so richly deserved.

Speaker 3 (18:44):
Got something on your mind, Get in on the conversation.
Dialer tex six four seven six yo, Josh to be
heard now back to whatever the hell this is.

Speaker 1 (18:57):
Yes, it is Josh Holiday Live. I am uh he
of the title, and I am joined as always by Bert,
who is uh who is in He's in the US.
We we cover both sides of the border here and
essentially what's happening in the States, like is truly insane

(19:21):
with with with Trump and people still kind of supporting
him after everything that's happening. He's he's he's basically suffering
from heavy dementia. He's racist, he's uh.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
A rapist.

Speaker 1 (19:38):
Yeah, there's all all kinds of stuff. And we have
kind of like someone who's trying to emulate that populism here,
a guy named Pierre Pauli Eva and there's all kinds
of dumb dumbs who are supportive of him, and there's
a lot of dumb dumbs who are like, oh, true,
f f Trudeau. Trudeau is the worst Trudeau is there,
our current prime minister, and people like to blame all
of the problems on him, especially I mean a lot

(20:00):
of it is stuff that's problems with the provincial government.

Speaker 2 (20:03):
But people just did they blame the inflation on Trudeau?

Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yes, of course they do, and do they blame.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
The inflation on uh, you know, whoever's in charge in
the UK.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Everywhere in the world, it's like, oh, Canada's inflation. And
if you look at all, by all all figures and facts,
Canada has done much better through these the pandemic and
the recessions than most other countries. Yet these people don't
look at that as they're just like, oh right, And

(20:35):
they also won't point the finger where it's needed to
be pointed at the profiteers, like the grossers, who are
are taking advantage. They took advantage of the pandemic to
raise the prices.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
And well, I think that what happened first was a
giant disruption and transportation of the global supply chains that
were stretched over to China because when the when the
pandemic broke out and the port of La closed and
all those western ports closed, those ships went back empty.
The stevedors didn't sit there and load any more empties

(21:08):
onto the to take them back to China. So many
many ships went home with no containers, and then the
containers were on the wrong side of the world, and
all of a sudden, getting a container across the ocean
that had been two thousand dollars, it became twelve thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
The side note here, I like the fact that you
used the term stevedore stevedor.

Speaker 2 (21:29):
I don't even know how to say it, but that's
who's doing it, I know.

Speaker 1 (21:32):
But I remember playing a carnival game where it was
you squeezed to see how strong you were at this
carnival game and at different different levels, and one was
that was one of the levels levels with stevendoor. Yeah,
I think so, I think you're strong, like you put
stuff on ships and stuff. Okay, that was a problem
through pandemic, but ever since then a lot of companies,

(21:55):
especially in the grocery world, have taken advantage of what's
happening to really really jack up the prices way beyond
the level of inflation.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Well, and they are so concentrated there's no competition on
price well exactly, just a few suppliers and a few companies.
You know, there's a great map that you can look at.
I guess it's the map. It's a chart where oh
there's like, you know, here's the ten you know, food
conglomerates that own like two hundred and fifty brands in
the grocery store.

Speaker 1 (22:24):
Yeah, the brands. Well, here we have I think there's
two major groups that own all the grocery stores in Canada.

Speaker 2 (22:29):
And so there's that that's not that's just the grocery
stores themselves. I'm talking about the actual the actual supplier.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So a lot of people point the fingers.
And even though compared to most other countries we've been
we've been doing them.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
It's like every single country they're like, our leader has
caused the inflation. But yet they're not talking to each
other going like did you have inflation over there? We
sure did?

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Well.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
Is it Biden? No, it's Trudeau?

Speaker 1 (23:00):
Uh. I someone across this someone someone posted this, and
I thought we'd talk about it and sort of see
if it if it if it's in fact correct or
in the right direction. So, uh, there's MAGA in the
States and here they sometimes call people maple maga. These
people who are like anti vaccine like, anti Trudeau like, and.

Speaker 2 (23:25):
They want to make America great. Also, that's how dedicated
they are.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
Yeah. So this this U divides MAGA into four main groups.
The first one white supremacists who see Trumps their role model,
granting them permission for their racist hate, violence, fascist scapegoating, nationalism,
and toxic masculinity. So that's one of the MAGA groups.
And I would agree that that's that's pretty and some

(23:51):
of sometimes they overlap each other too.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
Sure more than one categories.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, so that's one of four false Christian evangelic who
see Trump as their method of established establishing at Chrystofastus USA,
where their dogma will be law see Project twenty twenty five,
or who see Trump ushering in armageddon, which they foolishly
believe they will be raptured away from at the last moment. Okay,

(24:16):
so yeah, there's a lot of magus who are in
with Trump, like, despite the fact that if you used
religious like religious text as a barometer for Trump, he
would fail in pretty much every way. He is essentially
the antithesis to what Christianity used to be about. And

(24:42):
this one is a big class of people and it's
kind of a catch all. And it's the same thing
here the misled who swallow lunatic claims that paint Trump
is a hero saving children from non existent left wing
pedophile cannibals. I think the misled is a big category
miss misinformed.

Speaker 2 (24:59):
There's a lot of can be separate from these other
things you've listed, but okay, continue, Yeah, well.

Speaker 1 (25:03):
And there's so much disinformation, and a lot of it
is there's.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
People who just want that they like a conspiracy. Yeah
I have I will entertain a conspiracy theory. Yeah sometimes
and and so like when people are digging this hole,
sometimes I'll follow them down the rabbit hole a little
ways and go like, yeah, but what about this? I
feel like this is the one? You know. I mean,
I'm always looking for the what's the one thing that

(25:30):
I have in my you know, repertoire that will undermine
the conspiracy. So in theory, I could be drawn in
to any conspiracy that I entertained for too long.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
Right, Well, I think, uh a lot of the I
think a lot of these people too. It's it's they're
at a point where they were in early on the
Maga movement, and it's really really hard to admit that,
Oh yeah, man, that I was stupid.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
I that was a nobody wants to nobody.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
So it's like that boiling first. Yea, it's like the
boiling frog. It's like, okay, well, a little bit of
the you know, sort of hinted at racism, was was,
you know, and now it's like full blown, you know,
if you.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Look at but if you look at like the conversations
on Facebook or TikTok or whatever, the level of policy
analysis that you see is usually not good.

Speaker 1 (26:16):
No, no, no, it's all about just just hot button issues.
And we have obviously like well Twitter or I still
call it twitter X. I guess he thought, well X
is cool. It's a cool letter. That is like a
total misinformation farm, and there's just so many Russian bots
and these dumb dumbs are falling for all of the disinformation.

(26:39):
Oh yeah, so fine. The of the other there's four categories.
White supremacists, false Christian evangelicals, the misinformed or disinformed, and
self serving right wing politicians who will excuse any atrocity
that are content to regurgitate the big bold lies of
fascist Trump in order to maintain their positions of wealth

(27:00):
and influence.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
Yeah, I think because power.

Speaker 1 (27:03):
And it's not just right wing politicians, it's it's the
well wealth on the right, like like basically the Trump
and in our case, Pierre Pauly ever are willing to
do the bidding of the the billionaire class.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
And and well they fund their campaigns.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Oh exactly, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
And they're you know, they're the campaign funds, the legal
defense fund.

Speaker 1 (27:25):
Yeah, that's the funny. There's that everything's fundraising off off
of this this level.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Like I mean, the dude's got he's got some digital
trading cards again, I know, books apiece. Wow, if you
buy fifteen of them, I think he'll send you an
actual physical trading card.

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Oh my god, are you serious? I need to stop
the show and place in order.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
Yeah, I get it. While you can, I get some
sneakers to boot.

Speaker 1 (27:51):
I saw that there was there was I don't was
it the uh the telegram guy who was who was
uh busted for for spreading disinformation? You know what didn't
dig into Sorry, it wasn't you know it's because of
that platform is used by human human traffickers, pedophiles and

(28:16):
uh neo Nazis and all that, all that stuff. But
I did see I think it was the European Union
warrened Musk that there they don't tolerate disinformation and they
may start cracking down. And then I saw people saying, well,
who's to determine what's what's information, what's true, and what's not?
Who's That's always the argument like, well, uh, free speech,

(28:39):
free speech, we should be able to say whatever we want.
This is interesting. Children in England are going to be
taught how to spot fake news as part of a
planned overhaul of the school curriculum. The perils of online
misinformation were brought into the spotlight earlier this month, with
false information helped fuel a violent far right right across

(29:01):
the UK. As a result, Education Secretary Bridget Phillipson announced
quote it's more important than ever that we give young
people the knowledge and skills to be able to challenge
what they see online. The curriculum reviews intended to develop
plans to quote embed critical skills in lessons to armoredge
holdering against the disinformation, fake news and putrid conspiracy theories

(29:22):
awash on social media.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yes, just in time for AI to become so good
they can't tell that they're not looking at a person.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah, no, that's a scary thing. The other thing I've
noticed here in Canada, I know for sure it's something
that happens there, but i it used to not be
a thing here in such volume. But basically there's a
lot of people who are like blaming the blaming immigrants
on stuff. I mean that's like it's a long a

(29:53):
lot there's been a long, a long history of people
doing that.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
But I've just like the people leave in the US,
I've just noticed to hear more and more like there's
like well there, uh you know, they're they're coming in
and taking their jobs or they're you know, you know,
the CEO sent your job overseas.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, It's it's so funny.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
I mean, you wanna you think you could go rif
a house or you know, like what's stopping you?

Speaker 1 (30:19):
Oh yeah, that's the other Yeah, that's the other thing.
It's like all these jobs that no one wants to do, uh,
and and yet they're yeah, it's it's silly. We're gonna
talk about some some more more fun more happy things.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (30:34):
Dogs, everybody loves dogs, and we have some interesting dog information.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Sex, money, dating, health, hockey, science, burritos. If there's something
on your mind, it's on this show.

Speaker 1 (30:49):
We'll do it live.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Do it live.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
I can go all write it and we'll do it lit.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Something else you brain, Jesh, You's sleep in a dumpster
last night, tell us.

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Speaker 2 (30:59):
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Speaker 3 (31:01):
Josh Halliday is live and free to one.

Speaker 1 (31:05):
One Yes Live Saturday morning, last day of August. Oh,
I love the summer so much, and I dread the
oncoming Well, I don't mind. The fall is nice, but
just the end of the s and end of the
summer portends the oncoming winter.

Speaker 2 (31:27):
You know, what can I say? I grew up in Dallas,
so I mean I have really very little sympathy for
people who have experienced four seasons their entire life.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yeah, I guess. So, I just wish it was like
if we could have like summer and then fall and
then spring, you know, because this is nice, Like Chris, I.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
Mean, the winter is extremely intense, you know where you are,
and it's very unpleasant. I mean I used to look
at it as like, no matter where you live, you're
getting six months of garbage.

Speaker 1 (31:56):
Yeah, I guess how the otherustry in the hot places.

Speaker 2 (31:59):
It's as true everywhere. No, there's someplace in the middle
of the continent is the worst.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
Yeah, that's true. And here last winter, I think the
whole global warming is messing everything up. But it hardly
snowed here at always, Like we got a lot of
rainy days. And I don't know which I prefer better,
because the rain makes everything all mucky. I think part
of it is my pet, my pet brain where I
think of my dog and what's easier if it's snowing.

(32:28):
At least his feet aren't aren't all muddy. But yeah,
and he hates the rain too, so sure. There's a
pet insurance company nationwide. They have something called a Hambone Award,
which celebrates the most unusual pet insurance claims of the year.
Oh it's named in honor of a dog who ate

(32:50):
an entire holiday ham Will stuck in a refrigerator. They
say they just want to shed light on the weird
and bizarre pet insurance claims. And some of the finalists
for the Handbone of War this year Archie, a New
Jersey dog. Oh, look at that, he's a New Jersey
dogs hometown story, he pointed. But yes, Archie, new Jersey dog,

(33:15):
injured his paws when he broke through a vintage plate
glass door while trying to tell his family the mailman
was coming. Bear a Pennsylvania corgy who bit into a
bottle of nail adhesive and glued his mouth shut. Oh boy,
it's not just dogs. A New Jersey parrot named Clover

(33:36):
had a growth spurt that caused the toenails on her
feet to hook together. Dang, it's unfortunate Florida dog named
Irma who suffered from gastro intestinal issues that turned out
to have been caused by eating metal wire pieces from
a barbecue brush.

Speaker 2 (33:52):
I mean a bird that is that's rough and the
barbecue brush. The metal wire from the barque brush is
a threat to people as well.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
The humans.

Speaker 2 (33:59):
Yeah, because it will fall off into your grill and
difficult to see. But anyway, yeah, a pair, I've I've
actually started to curve it around. I don't. I'm not
sure I'm comfortable with birds as pets.

Speaker 1 (34:13):
And what's yours?

Speaker 2 (34:14):
When you talk about the parrots nails grew together. Their
claws grew together because they're not out in the wild
grabbing onto stuff. They're in on a dal pin that
they sit on for hours and hours. Is they're in
a cage.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
Yeah, yeah, I'm sort of with you with you there.
That's the birds should be out and flying around like
at dogs. We've domesticated and we take them for walks
and stuff.

Speaker 2 (34:38):
But they seem happy birds. And if you know somebody
with the parrot, when they get old, they get mad
and unrey they live a long time.

Speaker 1 (34:46):
Yeah, my sister has some some birds. I think I
think she had one that she got from a humane
society and then one actually like landed on their house
or something and they took it in. It was like
this like obviously like a h tropical bird, but uh,
they have it like.

Speaker 2 (35:03):
It's not going to survive the Toronto winter.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Well she's in she's an albert it's even colder. But
but when I visit their house, they they have like
the big family TV room and stuff, and the bird
thing is not far from the TV. So these things
are all like you're trying to watch a nice like
dramatic quiet show.

Speaker 2 (35:22):
Enjoy you know, they need some bird television.

Speaker 1 (35:25):
Well, and the other thing is I feel bad for
the birds because you're like, you've got this like movie
surround sound system. These birds are like right near the speaker.
It's yeah, it's just a mess. My sitter feels like
her home feels like she just takes into whatever animals
because she just like she she got a dog, an
adopted dog, kind of cute but needs much more walking

(35:45):
than it's getting. And uh uh, then she got these birds,
and now about two weeks ago she got a pair
of like kittens. It's like, oh my god, like, do
you really need more activity in your house? Slow down,
slow down?

Speaker 3 (36:00):
All right?

Speaker 1 (36:00):
Uh a flora, Okay. We talked about eating while Virginia
dog named Gordon. I always like the dogs that have
like human names.

Speaker 2 (36:10):
That especially ones that have you know, like I don't
know if Gordon's quite as popular as it was, you know,
a long time ago, you.

Speaker 1 (36:15):
Know, like Gordon or Keith is nothing fun or Kevin
is one of my favorite dog names. Anyway, this dog
named Gordon swallowed two large rocks from her owner's garden.
H and Lambeau U, a North Carolina dog, ate more
than two hundred and fifty jigsaw puzzle pieces. Yeah, and

(36:36):
the craziest thing when it came out, it was fully
solved new.

Speaker 2 (36:41):
Sold.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
So those are all nominees for.

Speaker 2 (36:46):
The cardboard that's you know you can that's not that
cardboard down easy.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
No, it's not a huge deal, but it's a lot
you were Yeah, you look at you. You you were
segueing without even knowing you were seguing. That tell how
much of a broadcaster you are. Just built him. You
don't even know this topic was on the on the
on the roster. You just have this sense of of segue.
And you are your gen X, aren't you?

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Of course?

Speaker 1 (37:15):
Yeah, me too, the greatest generation, like I think the
last great generation.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
We're the one, the first one that got a cool name.

Speaker 1 (37:23):
Yeah, gen X. Uh, there's there's a list of names
that this TikToker account has deemed obsolete in twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
Oh, this is a fun topic.

Speaker 1 (37:38):
Yeah, gen X names that are so unpopular now they
have been deemed obsolete in twenty I guess some yes, Okay,
fire away, Jennifer. I don't see it on the list,
but I can.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
I mean, how many Jennifers did you know?

Speaker 1 (37:53):
A lot?

Speaker 2 (37:54):
Oh? Now, and there's none they're Young. There's no young Jennifers, Jason.
I feel like may be also in decline. But those
names aren't like Frank, but I think it's probably on
the way out.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
I think any biblical names will always be sort of
you know, as long as there's Karen. Karen no one's
name of the.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Kids number one.

Speaker 1 (38:13):
Yeah, yeah, that's I mean, I feel bad for weaponized.
I feel bad for actually Karen's who.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
There's some lovely Karens in this world.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
There are Donna is one that's no longer.

Speaker 2 (38:27):
Mons, Carrie cars going away. Yeah, like k Nigel k
A R I, but maybe c A R R I
E will maintain because of sex and sexy. Tracy Nigel's
going Tracy. Yeah right, yeah, I see that.

Speaker 1 (38:45):
Lindsay.

Speaker 2 (38:47):
I feel like Lindsay could come back.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Maybe Gary, that's one, like there is one that I
don't know many young Gary's anymore, Cheryl.

Speaker 2 (38:56):
Did you even know any Gary's your age? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (38:59):
I know they were a little older.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
Yeah, there's a lot of Gary's were like the adults.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
Yeah, that's true. I always like.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Seventy Now which one was the next one?

Speaker 1 (39:09):
I like it as a comedy name though, Gary and
I always they always think it's like it feels very Canadian,
like Gary, I'm a Gary.

Speaker 2 (39:15):
Yeahy Ryl is going on out of really happening. Claire
that'll come back, yeah, Tanya not coming back.

Speaker 1 (39:27):
No, Lorraine that that is another one that feels like Aanya.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Of course when we did it was Tanya. Tanya, Yeah,
spelled with an A. You'd get it. It was Tanya.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
I I The main like cultural reference to Tanya, I
know is from the Nails song eighty eight lines about
forty four women, where it's like Tanya Turkish liked it well,
wearing leather biker boots.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
Oh wow, I don't know this. But there's also you know,
there's Tanya Harding.

Speaker 1 (39:55):
Oh yeah, that's another one. Yeah. I think sometimes there's
figures that come along that kind of tarnish the name.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
Make the name good or bad. There's Lorraine oh Bobby, Yeah,
that's another.

Speaker 1 (40:04):
Bobbit that Wayne Wayne.

Speaker 2 (40:08):
I don't Wayne's kind of yeah, Wayne's out.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
Wayne feels like a very seventies like, hey, Wayne's place,
mm hmm. Beverly, it's not a lot of young Beverly's anymore.

Speaker 2 (40:21):
Don uh Yeah, I know one guy named Don who's
a little maybe he's in his thirties, but they call
him Donnie.

Speaker 1 (40:30):
D A w N like don the girl's name though
that one's name d own is. Also it's going, yeah,
like Donald's.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Donald of course. Yeah, I don't hear that much.

Speaker 1 (40:41):
Yeah, well, I guess it's in a lot of ways.
It's like people don't call their kids Adolph anymoreully. Yeah,
there's a fascist this room.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
The name for for Donald Trump has ruined Donald for
a generation perhaps or more. But also like you know,
Donald Duck, but there was no there were Donald's a
lot more common.

Speaker 1 (41:00):
Yeah, back then. Stuart s t U A r T.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Stuart Hey, Stuart also not popular, no, I.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Think because Stuart's always like it's sort of has like
a nerd rap I think.

Speaker 2 (41:13):
And that you know that Stuart was the Beavis and
butt Head Nerdcary with.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
The yeah with the winger te shirt. Yeah, Stuart was
the nerd from Beavis and Bad Denise.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
I think Denise could come back.

Speaker 1 (41:26):
Yeah, it feels like it, but I haven't. I don't
know any like now now Nephew.

Speaker 2 (41:33):
Now Keith, Keith, Hey, Keith, Yeah, not that common. They
were Keith around when I was growing up, but there
weren't that many.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
And then the last one. Maybe I think this one
might come back just because the television what.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Barry Barry been assassin? Yeah, name your kid after Also,
I don't know if that's kind of.

Speaker 1 (41:58):
So that's that's their listen. And I guess like every generation,
like there's those old names like like you know, Gertrude
and stuff like that that basically I'm wow, this is
the first time this has happened with you, but I'm
hearing like, uh, you're like, oh.

Speaker 2 (42:20):
That's too bad.

Speaker 1 (42:20):
Maybe turn that video off and uh just uh so,
and then there's Candace, Candace Candy Candas. Yeah, that one's
that one name. Yeah, you don't hear it anymore. I
know a Candice who's younger than me, but not like
not young young. H Uh. There's a recent death online

(42:46):
thread asking readers to share purchases under hudder bucks that
they believe actually changed your life. Okay, this one we've
talked about before. Air tag and the luggage. Uh so
you can kind of track where your bag is if
you're really like down to your last one hundred bucks.
Investing in a gym membership can offer a couple of
months of access to a locker and a shower. Oh yeah, yeah,

(43:08):
helping his stay presentible as you look for employment. Yeah,
you could basically live in your car and then go
in the gym and shower. I say that as if
something I could easily do. I'm aware of my privilege.
I guess that. No, I probably couldn't. A cab ride
home when you've had too much a drink. Oh boy,
we didn't really talk about this. It probably wasn't as

(43:28):
much on your radar because it's in the US. But
there's a hockey player here, a hockey player who played
for a long time for the Calgary Flames.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
And recently, Oh I know about this.

Speaker 1 (43:42):
Yeah, I went to the Blue Jackets thirty one year
old hockey player Johnny Gudreau, nicknamed Johnny Hockey because he's
just sort of, you know, a really good guy, inspirational kid.
Him and his brother were.

Speaker 2 (43:55):
Bicycling, yes, in New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
In New Jersey, yeah, so it is close to home
for you guys, and were hit by a driver who,
by all accounts, was under the influence of alcohol and
really like he's only thirty one years old. It has
two kids, I think around I think two kids under
two years old. I think, and then his sister was

(44:21):
getting married. Like this past Friday was tragedy all around.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Like just the guy guy driving was just impatient.

Speaker 1 (44:29):
Yeah, yeah, he's trying to like yeah, trying to get
around traffic.

Speaker 2 (44:32):
It's an oncoming lane. And then you know it's like
he started out and instantaneously hit these guys.

Speaker 1 (44:38):
I think, I don't know if I have the full
full story, but I feel like right somewhere where this
jeep was trying to pass, not on the actual outside,
but passion on the shoulder, and we're.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
Like, oh ah, that's not how I understood. But yeah,
that's even Yeah, I mean it's both are problematic.

Speaker 1 (44:54):
Yeah, in whatever case, this impatient drunk driver killed two
young people, one of whom, well they're both were hockey players.
One was playing in a lower league. But you had
always the young family thing, always always like adds that
extra element of tragedy. It's like, oh my god, I
can't imagine what the wife is going through. And the

(45:16):
kids probably not aware of it, but certainly when they're older,
they'll they'll I'll well, no, no.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
You got to curb your show around. This show's almost over.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
I know. On a side note, all right, well, yeah,
so under one hundred dollars cab ride home when you've
had too much a drink yet. And this one's a
couple out of air fire, which my sister has and
they swear by I just don't have counter space or
the patients.

Speaker 2 (45:41):
The air fry requires no patience because it's so fast.

Speaker 1 (45:44):
I guess, but I, so, do you have an air fire.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
Yes, I've had multiple different airpower.

Speaker 1 (45:49):
And is it where? Is it like live up to
the hype?

Speaker 2 (45:52):
Yeah? Okay, I the modern ones that have you know,
like the ones now, it's more they're kind of like
a hybrid toaster oven oftentimes.

Speaker 1 (46:02):
Oh that makes sense.

Speaker 2 (46:02):
Yeah, Now the old one that was just a kind
of a bucket that with the with the heating element
above it. And if you look and it's just a
coil from like a cook top is what it looks like.
And a fan. But you know, you could fix French
fries that were served to you too cold or too
now crispy. You could completely rehabilitate them. But it does

(46:24):
other frozen things quite well also, and it's quick.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
All right, Well, maybe it's something I'll think about, just
you know, I worry about cleaning all this stuff. I
that's one. Like one of the major problems with getting
food delivered, which you probably don't as much because you're
sort of out in the the you know, don't a
lot of delivery. Here in the city. There's we're always
getting delivery. And the main complaint of delivery food when
there's French fries is because it's in bags and stuff,

(46:49):
it's getting steamed in the fry. The fries are never crispy.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
You could definitely fix the fries with an air fry.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Currently, what we do is, well, like when we place
the ore, you know, we know it's gonna be about
fifteen minutes away, we like jack the oven up to
four fifty and then put them on a on a
like a baking sheet and puss them up.

Speaker 2 (47:08):
But offers you a little bit of an extra edge
because that fan can push. I mean, you really can
get them crispy. Even fries that weren't good to begin
with can be rehabilitated with an air far.

Speaker 1 (47:19):
All right, well, maybe you're changing my mind here. Extra
long telephone charger that's just a given length, so it makes.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
My cable for yeah, deadside or whatever.

Speaker 1 (47:29):
Yeah, the day attachment for your toilet. I could go
really really deep on this one that I'm I'm a
light like a big big fan of.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
The once you go the day you don't straight.

Speaker 1 (47:40):
Oh no sunrise alarm clock where rather music or whatever
playing this year, it just starts to brighten your room
and you wake up a little.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
Bit more naturally, I guess maybe. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (47:52):
I had one for a while, but it was kind
of it was because it was before it was kind
of like a popular thing where major brands put it out,
so it was kind of like really hard to set
the clock and everything. Uh, Electra true flesh, Yeah, I
love that. Uh, carbon monoxide detector. Yeah, that's good for
your life.

Speaker 2 (48:12):
Yes, uh.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
And the squatty potty, which I have al though I
don't use this off and now I just kind of
you can emulate the squatty potty just by kind of
it's grabbing onto your toes like it forces you into
that that position.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Yes, I have a squatty potty emulator called feet right.

Speaker 1 (48:31):
I think I have a squatty, but I don't. I
don't know if you just like still sit on the
toilet seat or you're supposed to like crouch on the
squatty potty and like hover over the bowl and let
let drop like.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Thank God for poo.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
Yeah, I don't have that squatty potty. I don't feel
like I need it. It's just it's meta mucile. Brother,
you just have one glass a day and everything else
is no problem at all.

Speaker 1 (48:53):
Yeah, I I I still need more fire. I put
like meta music, well, still in fiber not nothing like.

Speaker 2 (48:59):
Yeah that's what it is. That's sillium. Yeah, I put
it in a smooth sillium in this case. Yeah, I
put it my smoothie. But I feel like I still
need to put uh put more in. You know, that's
up to each individual person.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
All right, Well, hopefully, uh you got all the fiber
talk you need here and all the poopy talk and
the penis talk and the pollo you get. Really it
runs the game at Pets Peens Polly uh food, yeah,
all that stuff. Anyway, we will see you a week

(49:33):
or so.

Speaker 2 (49:34):
The show is over. The show is over.

Speaker 3 (49:36):
Lessons were learned, but the conversation continues. Phone lines are
open twenty four hours a day, seven days a week.

Speaker 2 (49:42):
Okay, well, thanks for calling it.

Speaker 3 (49:44):
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