NEWSTALK SAUGA960 DECEMBER 7, 2024

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Live from Toronto to the world. This is Josh Holiday Live.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Josh is like a snook talker.

Speaker 3 (00:06):
Josh is the same level as me.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Like his vibe is just like strong and masculine and tough.

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Josh Holiday Live starts.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
No Babe, Yes, Saturday, December the seventh, mere weeks away
from the Big Christian Fest, a big celebration.

Speaker 1 (00:50):
Bert.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
I'm Josh, he of the show title. Bert is here
as usual.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Good morning in Canada.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
He is somewhere in a bunker in the middle of
the state of New Jersey. Wear aboats unknown, right, we don't.
It's you're off the grid. Well, you have your attached
to the grid a little bit.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
I keep my ties to the grid, you know. Yeah,
I guess they're they're they're they can be altered.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Yes, in case all goes to crap. You have a
plan to.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Be able to be off the grid.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
I guess yeah, that's good. Good to know. We didn't
have a show last week. It was American Thanksgiving. Uh
and and you celebrated with turkey in in your house
or you were somewhere else.

Speaker 3 (01:34):
We went to Old Mexico.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Old Oh yeah, New Mexico, Old Mexico, and uh, how
was that experience?

Speaker 3 (01:42):
It was? It was great right up until the point
that I got food poisoning.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
Oh no, no, how many days in was that?

Speaker 3 (01:51):
I guess it would have been late a middle Like
we got there on Monday and would have been like
six am on Thursday. I was summoned.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Oh no, uh and do you think it was a
water thing or a food Well.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
No, I think it was the barbecue place, which was delicious.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, but you sacrifice, you sacrifice your health.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
Basically a day, two days was just basically given back
to Yeah, to the gods.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Sand blasting that porcelain as they say.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Yeah, man, whatever you whatever you needed, I had it,
wow whatever. Yeah, it was all bad.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
And were you the only one of your party to it?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Was not?

Speaker 3 (02:30):
In the extended group. There was another person who also
got the same. That's how I decided it was food
poisoning and not like you know, I drank the water
or brush my teeth wrong or something. Right?

Speaker 2 (02:41):
Did they eat the same thing as you?

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah? The rumor was he also had a lot of
the pork.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Okay, so so bad pork.

Speaker 3 (02:49):
Maybe it was the pork, but who knows, I don't know. Man,
it was rough. I mean, you know it was at
all inclusive scenario. It was cool up till that point.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
And so were you like how many how many days
were you down with this about to?

Speaker 3 (03:03):
I mean the whole Thursday was a total loss.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Uh. And then Friday, they a lot of them went
to like do this thing where they were going to
go snorkeling at cozamel We replied, they'll Carmen, and so
they had to, like it took them all day to
do this. We're gonna go snorkeling at Cosmelo. It's going
to be all day, maybe gone twelve to fourteen hours,
which at the outset, I don't want that. Yeah, in
any I don't. They were like, hey, we're gonna go

(03:27):
to chichen Itzza. Cool, it's going to be a twelve
hour process. I don't want to do it.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
No.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
I mean I want to go to chichen Itza, but
I don't want to spend all day doing it.

Speaker 2 (03:38):
Yeah, that's a lot of time to be so.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Yeah, I just I wasn't going to go to the
snorkeling anyway. But Friday was Friday wasn't as bad as Thursday, obviously,
but it was it had its own, uh moments of discomfort. So,
I mean it was not a total loss, but it
was nearly so. But then you know, let's hit that
and you know, you go to the pharmace. See you there,
everything's over the counter. Get that emodium, brother, give me

(04:04):
that zofran. Whatever you got.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, well that's I remember going when I was in
the plilot Carmen. I was surprised that you go in
the drug store and can get like, uh steroids. You know.
That's why I'm so balked up obviously brought.

Speaker 3 (04:18):
It didn't occur to me to I didn't actually go
to the pharmacy. Other people went and brought back the emodium,
which made travel possible.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Yeah, but a lot of stuff that you would have
you need a prescription.

Speaker 3 (04:30):
For, I know, yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:32):
Yeah. And other than that, like what like you, I
guess you're an all inclusive type thing, right, Yeah? Were
you just kind of chilling by the pool or.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
I did that? I did that one day. I chilled
by the pool rom a book. You know, we rode bikes.
One day there was like you could rent the bikes
from the place, and and there were these other sort
of we were in like this like this, these resorts
are in this sort of larger.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Gated community, okay.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
And so like you, we would ride in that community
down to like there's these old Mayan ruins or whatever.
So they're like close accessible ruins. So we went to
that nice one day and uh yeah, that was all right.
I mean, all in all, I'm more of a city vacationer.
I want to go see the sites and do the bookstore.

(05:18):
I can lay by the beach for a day.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
I'm I would say, I'm kind of a hybrid where
I don't I don't. I don't like going to resorts
because I like to be I can't. I can't stand
sort of being still around, Like I can sit around
a pool for half an hour, me with with a
smooth for my smoothie break. But I like to go

(05:41):
out and explore. So I've sort of That's why I've
kind of gravitated for my my warm holidays to Costa Rica,
because I can just get a room somewhere, rent an
ATV for the week, and then just go explore and
go and check everything out.

Speaker 3 (05:55):
And that sounds that has that sounds appealing.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, but I unders I mean you're you were in
a group and it was a family thing, kids and stuff,
so I imagine so a lot.

Speaker 3 (06:04):
It wasn't my Yeah, I didn't have my own agency,
and that sounds.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
You can't be like me, like an easy rider out
on his haw his.

Speaker 3 (06:13):
Because you know the wind in your non existent hair
all that.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yet hey hey, now hey, that's right, I'm wearing a helmet.
I don't you can't notice. But oh that's fun. I
did book. It was kind of contemplating for a while,
but I have a weekend in late January where you
don't have any hockey on that weekend, and I sort
of set that asize of maybe a vacation. We can

(06:38):
I book something to to Costa Rica. I now normally
I go. I've been all over there, and I've lately
gravitated to this small ish beach town, surf yoga town
where there's a lot of expats called Nosara. But it's
I went there in twenty seventeen, and between then and now,

(06:58):
it's it's all of a sudden, got all these you know,
estates and mansions, and stuff, and it's it's sort of
been discovered, if you will. And so when I went
to look at the hotel prices, I was like, oh
my god, Like the it was just insane, especially that
time of year. I usually go on the cusp of
the season, so you know, I think from basically November

(07:21):
to April is the high season, and I'll usually try
and go on the cusp of it near the end,
so I might get a little bit of rain but
not not a big deal. But but this is right
in the prime, and and yeah, it was. It was
too much. So I'm going to this town that I've
heard is a little bit touristy, Tamarindo. It's not a

(07:44):
big city by any stretch, but it's it's bigger and
a little more and more sort of trodden than than
the Nosara. And I'll go there and I think, like
last time I did this, where I was I just
want to go somewhere warm. I did go to apply
at Carmen, not to a resort. I just went to
this hotel and it was kind of on the strip,

(08:04):
and I really kind of got overwhelmed by the tourism.
So I just sort of did a lot of walking
around the town.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
And so that's actually what I was going to do
on Friday when they were all out. I was gonna
like take a cab into play yeah, just like see
what there was and walk around. But I just didn't
feel good enough to do it.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
Bomb Bomber.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
It sucked.

Speaker 2 (08:27):
The only one thing. Like, I'm still like, I don't
know a lot about this town, so I'm trying to
figure out what I'm going to run. It looks like
ATVs are less popular, but go golf carts are kind
of a thing.

Speaker 3 (08:37):
There, just like the villages. You can fly like on
it and blend right.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
In, try my golf cart around. I am sort of
like there's a bit of a morbid curiosity here because
I've there. At this beach is Tamarindo Beach. There's a
river that empties there, the river mouth, and I have
read a story and seen video actually of the story
where sometimes when the surfers want to get from one

(09:04):
beach to the other, they swim across the mouth of
this river. But in this river there are crocodiles. So
there's video of a guy kind of getting attacked by
a crocodile and he hits it and stuff and he
actually makes it across, but it's it's known to be
a little bit dangerous for these guys to swim across
that river mouth.

Speaker 3 (09:25):
This is like your whole like this vacation is now
fail army, you know, like centric, like you're like, oh yeah,
let me let me go see if I can find
someone who's like getting attacked by a croc No.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
No, I'm just fascinated by Like even when I was
in Nosara, there's apparently crocodiles there, and I took pictures
of the signs and stuff, and people talk about seeing them,
and there's there's warnings and don't go, don't go, like
a paddle of warning in the mouth of the river
and stuff, but I never saw any. But I'm on
a constant search to kind of see cool dangerous things,

(09:59):
Like I'm always looking for snakes and in crocodile I
just it's I always find it interesting. And so here
I'm kind of curious to see to actually see where
this happened and what the sitch the sitch is there?
Good luck with that, I don't know. It's just like
a weird and that's like it's sort of a morebi curious,
not that someone died, although they're they're there have been

(10:22):
fatal crocodile attacks in Costa Rica. And there's one tourist
river like it's a famous bridge in Costa Rica where
you look down and there's these huge, huge crocodiles and
people take boat tours up there, and I think they
the boats feed them and stuff, so they get big
and fat. But they're giant crocodiles. But that feels just

(10:45):
too like to touristy. I got to see them on
my own.

Speaker 3 (10:49):
All right, we'll do what you need to.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
I may come back missing one leg, that's all I'll say.

Speaker 3 (10:54):
Oh wow, it's a pretty ambitious, uh you know, thing
to to get into.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
Yeah, well I to I told you that. I used
to go to Florida and there's ever it's it's Shark
of Valley. Uh, it's a national park called Shark Valley.
There's no sharks there, but there's a road like a
single lane kind of cement thing that people bicycle or
walk along or there's a tram and the alligators they

(11:20):
just lie right out there, a new bicycle two feet
away from them. It's it's when I first got there,
it was like the same thing when I I went
to that place with all the Cappy bearros. That was
the same amount of excitement, like, oh my god, they're
right here right beside me, no fences, no nothing.

Speaker 3 (11:36):
And run across their backs like James Bond.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, I I've seen that living live in that die.
I think that's from right And there's one outtake I've
seen where the guy almost gets his foot caught.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Like I think maybe I have seen that.

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Yeah, it's that was one of my That's my favorite
James Bond movie too.

Speaker 3 (11:56):
It is. It's the it's the most problem.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
I haven't watched it lately, but yeah, I imagine, yeah,
because it's sort of yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:05):
New Orleans. It's there's so you know, voodoo, and yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
I do. The Boat Chase is like I love the
boat Chase and like since when I saw that as
a kid and we had a place where we had
boats and stuff and that was always my I'm always
looking around like I would love to like jump over something,
and like.

Speaker 3 (12:22):
Right, and now it looks like, I mean, now that
I think about the physics of it, it looks like
that would be incredibly painful to like enduring to to
make the boat go from water to land.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
But Now if you go on YouTube, you can see
these like guys who have many jet boats and they
do that, they go over like sandbars and stuff all
the time.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:39):
You know, maybe I'm wrong and old.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
And now I'm I'm like, how can I get myself
one of those those those like many jet boats to
do that.

Speaker 3 (12:46):
I really enjoyed the Lotus, the white Lotus that turned
into a submarine.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Oh yeah, a spree turbo. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
I don't think it's a turbo in those days, but yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
Okay, Lotus is spree Yeah that was uh because of
that movie, I was like into a spreeze. And now
you still see them and they were only not that
I'm an automotive guy, but I think they were only
V fours.

Speaker 3 (13:09):
I don't even know. I think they're inline for us,
that would be my guest, but yeah, they were. The
turbo came later. Yeah, and it's you want the turbo
because apparently those cars are heavy and relatively underpowered.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
Yeah, but they look great.

Speaker 3 (13:22):
They look great and.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
If you need to go under water, they're really handy.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
They look amazing underwater from.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
What I've heard. Uh, I when you're talking about being
sick on vacation, reminds me of I went to I
went with It was just I went to it.

Speaker 3 (13:39):
My dad.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
We used to be the president of the Tea and
Coffee Association of Canada, like he was. He was a
tea guy, and so I sometimes would go hang out
at the conventions because usually they were at somewhere like
nice and warm and fancy, and so, uh, we went
down and we were at this book of Raton hotel

(14:02):
that looks like it's all pink. It looks like like
a beautiful postcard kind of hotel. That's where they were
for the convention. And then my dad went home because
he's got all working stuff to do with my mother
and I went to the Bahamas, just off because we
were already in Florida, so it wasn't far a hop.

Speaker 4 (14:21):
So it was.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
It was fun and I met some kids and stuff
there around the same age. I think I was about
fifteen or sixteen. And the last day I was there,
I had booked to rent like a little moped to
scoot around. I was all excited about that. But the
night before that, I ran into these kids and we

(14:45):
were just kind of running around and then I think
there might have been some weed involved and then we
were hanging around this beach bar and then one of
the kids was like, oh, yeah, I used to work
in a bar. Sometimes we just put the keys under here,
under this box when I when I worked at a
different bar, and he lifts it up and there's the
keys to the whole bar. And so we're drinking all

(15:06):
this all kinds of a mix of all kinds of
liquors and RUMs and stuff.

Speaker 3 (15:13):
At that age, you now feel like you've you've won
the largest lottery in the history of the world.

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yeah, we were. It was so you know, it was
exciting because we're in a different place.

Speaker 3 (15:23):
Unlimited free boots.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
Yeah, and and as you do when stuff is free,
you kind of like, oh it's free, I'm I'm going
to have as much as I can. Yeah. Then yeah,
the next day I was it's one of the sickest
I've been in my whole life.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
Like, so you had a good time on the way in.
I had. All I got to enjoy was you know,
the brisket.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
Yeah. Well, and then I was so sick, Like my
mother went and got some pepto bismol and I couldn't
even keep that down. Like that's how sick I was.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
No, it's it does it. I like anytime someone tries
to treat the hangover with meta, it's like, now, the
best you can do is just the water and time.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
Yeah, time and water. And but then I felt like
so freaking guilty because this the guy, uh, the mope guy,
had like shined up the you know, he's taking pride
and sprinting this, and I was like I felt more
bad about that than I did about being sick. I
was like, like the guilt stealing booze, Well, it was
more about the mopeg guy, the booze thing. I like,

(16:24):
in the moment, I didn't really think too much about it,
But in retrospect, yeah, that was kind of not not
a good thing, Like we're liquor liquor thieves bad, you know,
But it was you know, I've learned I was like
a fifteen. I wasn't the ring leader there was, yeah,
I just going with the flow. Uh do you know

(16:46):
you don't you don't really have ride share in your area.
I'm guessing you're sort of.

Speaker 3 (16:51):
I mean I don't think so. I mean you probably
could find right here somewhere, but I don't. I'm not
familiar with wear.

Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah, like here we have in Toronto have Uber and Lyft,
so well, I'll usually do if I'm going somewhere, I'll
open both apps and put the destination which everyone's cheapest.
I'll take Lift now has an option where you can
pay a little bit less if you if you say, well,

(17:17):
I don't need one right away, I'll wait, you know,
up to fifteen minutes. I can wait. And I was
going to an event the other day and I was like, yeah,
I can, you know, wait ten fifteen minutes before I go.
So I enter that and then then about twelve minutes in,
I got a guy that says he's always three minutes away,
which would have been fifteen minutes, and then oh, Muhammed

(17:42):
has canceled your ride, and then it starts looking for
someone else, and then that person's like twelve or thirteen
minutes away. So the gear the under fifteen minute ride
ended up being like twenty five minutes till the guy
got there.

Speaker 3 (17:56):
So you weren't late for anything?

Speaker 2 (18:00):
Well I was. I was late, but like the guys
should the thing should have picked me up fifteen minutes early,
Like like I waited a half hour for what should
have been a maximum fifteen minute ride. I hear you,
and I don't know if I'm I didn't really like
I haven't like done any consumer protest or anything, but
it seems kind of weird that that that would happen, or.

Speaker 3 (18:22):
Isn't it Like they have the opportunity to cancel your
Like they can cancel you, and then you are kind
of sol yeah, because you've invested the time with this
one person.

Speaker 2 (18:35):
That's and that's happened a few times before on sort
of like shorter terms where it's like but at this one,
I was like, Okay, well they got fifteen minutes to
figure this out, and then.

Speaker 3 (18:43):
Some ways they can figure out which is more lucrative
for them to do, sit tight or just cancel you
straight up. Yeah. I hope that you know you won't
re up and try to get them again.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Well.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
I think I think part of the problem might be
that I know that a lot of these guys work
for both Uber and Lyft, so they might be doing
the same thing where they're like, Okay, I got this ride.
It's going to be from here to here, it's gonna
be this much, and then maybe they're on the other
app and there's like, oh, some guy wants to go
to the airport. I'm going to cancel this and take
the airport guy. Yeah, but anyway, it was that was

(19:17):
not good. The uh bird flu is is like seems
to be kind of it seems to be kind of
bubbling around, like like, can we blame Canada?

Speaker 3 (19:30):
Yet it looked like some someone it was happening in Canada.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
Yeah, someone got it, and I think it died in Canada.
But now they're testing all kinds of cows and it's
been in a bunch of milk through the States.

Speaker 3 (19:41):
You can look at watch out for these raw milk
people because here they come.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Well that and that's the like the timing of it
is is uh ironic slash scary. All of a sudden,
you have a guy who's like into like like a
proponent of raw milk, who's going to be in charge
of uh uh you know, very serious medical things.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
And I like the pandemic was handled so poorly, so badly.

Speaker 3 (20:08):
Last time by in the US.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Yeah, yeah, no, by by the Trump administration. It was
like anything that could go wrong did go wrong. And
it wasn't just the Trump administration. There's a lot of
Republican states that were not great at It's Florida. I'm
looking at you, But a lot more people died than
needed to die, like, not just one hundred thousand, like

(20:33):
I would say, in the hundreds of thousands of people
died unnecessarily because of the poor easily response to COVID.
Now the bird flu from what I've read, the fatality
rate is a little bit closer to fifty percent. And

(20:54):
so for birds, yeah, I don't know, for humans, I
don't know, but the fact that it well, it certainly
would have like a higher fatality than COVID, and it's
it's not so much of rest I don't in any case,
it's a lot more deadly. And I kind of wonder
now that like this, the first administration at least had

(21:15):
like some sort of like threads to competence. You know,
Fauci was still involved, and he's like a bright guy,
and there's some threads of people who were smart. But
this new administration is filled with just idiots basically and incompetence.
And if there was an actual like.

Speaker 3 (21:35):
Deadly and and what they want to do, according to
Project twenty twenty five, is something they already did before
in October of twenty twenty. They want to reinstitute something
called Schedule F where they fire you know, forty thousand. Yeah,
the administ the actual experts at any agency. Yeah, the
people that actually know the thing to destroy institutional memory.

Speaker 2 (21:57):
Well there, it's an anti science government, and it's an
anti science program. It's all about the.

Speaker 3 (22:03):
Christianity, antique government government. It's an anti regulation government. Yeah
and so, and they don't care and we'll never get
it back.

Speaker 2 (22:11):
Well, it's too pronged too, because I always wondered what
that I've wondered in the past, Like with COVID, I
wondered if it was more deadly, like say one in
ten people were dying, how much more likely would these
anti vax conspiracists be.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
People did not believe. I mean, there were refrigerator trucks
in Manhattan that yeah, portable morgues. Yeah, there was a
point in time and it happened over and over again.
All of a sudden, there's no hospital beds in Dallas.
That place is huge, There's six million people in that metroplex,

(22:50):
and there were no hospital beds to speak up well,
and it had the fact that that didn't move them
off of center her and they still couldn't handle the reality.
Nothing will move them, which is scary.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
And then you have it, Well you have RFK, who's
an anti vax guy, to be.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Kind, or at least he's anti vax adjacent.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Yeah, he sort of. He hovers between. He says, no,
there's no but we don't really know. Well, he said
in the past, he's kind of he said, in the past,
there's no vaccine that actually works. And then he's he's
on the autism train.

Speaker 3 (23:27):
He's just a jackass. He also said that Heroin helped
him get thee Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:32):
I thought that was interesting.

Speaker 3 (23:34):
You know, that's our new medical plan. Yeah, get on
these opiates and get off the vaccines.

Speaker 2 (23:42):
Yeah. It's another thing was the anti vaxers were clogging
up the hospitals, and then people who had taken the vaccine,
we're all fine, they get into some kind of medical
trouble and they there's no room for them. And they
did all the right things. But the selfish mother f
first who didn't didn't get the vaccine.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Like on there, you know, half dead in the hospital,
going give me the vaccine.

Speaker 2 (24:07):
It's like too late.

Speaker 3 (24:08):
Sorry, brother, that's how it works. I thought you went
to biology class.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
I should take a little vaccine.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
I didn't know how it worked.

Speaker 2 (24:19):
Yeah, it's uh we are living in the idiocrasy, Yeah,
with so many dumb dumbs.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Uh, I think we'll take a quick break, come back
and chat about more exciting things I have. I'm still
trying to convince you. I don't know if you've taken
any tests your own vacations, so probably not. But uh,
Twitter is dead. There's a new website taking its taking
its place.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
Talked at Rocks. It's Josh Holiday Live. Need to be heard.
Tell your phone to call six four seven six yo.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Josh, Yes, we are live on a Saturday morning, December
the seventh. I'm Josh. You have the show title. Burt
Is here. I had this list sitting around for a

(25:14):
little while. It's the most visited websites of twenty twenty
four so far, but it's from about maybe two months
ago or a month and a half ago, and I'd
be curious to see the up to date version because
there's one item on this list that has been taking
a nosedive. So these are the most visited sites. Most

(25:36):
of them are pretty obvious. Google number one, YouTube, Facebook, Wikipedia.
Now Twitter is at number five. Twitter, which people axes.
I guess what edge Lores and Elon like to call
it because x xggie edgy. So there's that website gam

(26:00):
brad at duck duck Go Amazon, I'm duck duck Go
is interesting because it's kind of a bit of an
anonymous ish browser. But over the last month there's been
a bit of a social media revolution where after the election,
a lot of people were just like fed up with

(26:21):
the way Twitter was happening. I was on it for
quite a long time, mostly because there were a lot
of news types and and people like kind of trusted
and some comedy, but a lot of kind of people
who had takes on politics and stuff that were happening,
and facts actual facts. But ever since Felon Musk bought

(26:48):
it a couple of years ago, it's slowly been going downhill.
And then he decided to amplify Nazi voices because he's
a white supremacist, and it became a platform of hate
and trolls, and the trolls were amplified because any responses
you would see were always the blue check marks, which
tended to be the most sycophantic kind of Musk followers,

(27:11):
which were off of white supremacists and just the worst
people basically, and there had been other options out there
for quite a while and people had sort of drifted.
There's Threads and Mastered on which is a little bit
more kind of like the Linux of social media, where
it's a little bit too complicated, and blue Sky was

(27:34):
I think Jack Dorsey, the guy who was involved with
Twitter early on, I think he had a hand in it.
But people started going over there, and I went over
there and I deleted my Twitter about two weeks ago
because it's just worthless. Basically, it's an echo chamber of
white supremacy and misogynies andenophobia. All the worst people basically

(27:59):
are on x and now they're all just talking to
each other. The exponential growth of this service called blue
Sky has been pretty amazing, Like it's like a million
a week. It keeps adding and adding, and I've found
it's a it's a very very handy resource for people
who are looking to fight the fight, the fight against fascism.

(28:25):
And there's a lot more independent voices on there, and
like not not just sort of the your Washington Post
in New York Times, which tend to be a little
bit more centrist and and sometimes uh.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Yeah, they seem willing to normalize.

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Normalize, that's the word I'm looking for. Yeah, they were,
they were normalized. So on here there's all kinds of
uh people's and ideas and and independent press and it's
it's just a it's just a really really great place.
And they are super anti troll like, like you weed

(29:02):
out the trolls. People can create block lists and there's
these lists that you can go to and it's all
these all these trolls and you can just mass block
all of them. And there are some bots appearing, but
they're they're getting like weeded out pretty quickly. So it
just is a lot more of a pleasant experience and
more useful time spent. You don't have to deal with

(29:23):
all these morons basically coming on weal but but but
they don't have verification officially yet. But if you have
a web domain, you can incorporate that into your uh
your name on there. So for example, I have Josh

(29:43):
Holiday dot com two l's, and I'm at on the
Blue Sky and Blue Sky Da Da da Josh Holiday
dot com. So your domain is is. So if you
own that domain, you you're it's sort of like a
verification because people can go to your official website wherever.
But if you want to be anonymous, that's also something

(30:04):
you can do. You just come up with some random
handle or whatever. It's it's totally in your hands. But
I think you would enjoy it because you're sort of
you're with me when it comes to the so called resistance.

Speaker 3 (30:17):
Yeah, well, I mean, I don't agree with what's happening
in my own.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
In your own country. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
We see'd eye on that.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Yeah, And you're right in the midst of it.

Speaker 3 (30:27):
You're a little more of a bomb thrower than I am.
But still, yeah, I don't know. I just I it
makes me mad, that's all. You like to start stuff
sometimes sometimes I do. Well, you know that's a host prerogative,
I guess.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
But but you're interested in sort of the ideas.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Let's just say politics. I like philosophy. Sure, let's just say.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
It's an idea's website. It's an idea where where thinking
people go.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
I'll check it out, so exst around to it.

Speaker 2 (30:57):
X slash twitters for the dumb numbs, blue Skies for
the more thoughtful bad Yeah. End of the year here,
and we're gonna get obviously, in the next couple of weeks,
we get all kinds of like best books of the year,
best best movies. Experts are suggesting now you should make

(31:19):
a list of subscriptions that you have.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
Oh my god, I don't want to do that.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Yeah, well it's I you kind of realize after a while,
you realize and some of them, I I know, I
realized that. Oh I just kind of forgot to not
like renew that or not not to cancel that. Uh yeah,
I I have. Well, the thing too is I think
there's some overlap because I subscribe to Apple News, which

(31:49):
is a really really good like I find it really
really useful because you have access to a selection of
like pretty much any magaza and you can think of
you can get through through the Apple News with the
one lo fi and then newspapers from you know, even
state newspapers and stuff. You can select all the news

(32:09):
you like. But then I also had to have a
tradition to the New York Times, and I did. I
canceled Washington Post. Although I do I like the New
York Times games. That's part of the reason I'm in there.

Speaker 3 (32:21):
But also just those New York Times games, love them,
love them. I get the Times thrown at my house
on the weekend, so I actually get the physical papers
still the giant old I am. Yeah, that Sunday edition.
It comes in two parts, but.

Speaker 2 (32:34):
Yeah, and you lay it out on the kitchen table
while you have breakfast.

Speaker 3 (32:38):
It's basically me going like, all right, it's piling up.
Let's recycle a bag weeks of papers.

Speaker 2 (32:44):
Yeah. I I don't normally have like a VPN one
of those like oh you know, mask where you are
and all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
But you you'll, you will, I will.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Yeah, And I did get one, Like I got one
when I went to like the last time it was
down in like Costa Rica. I got one because I
wanted to watch the hockey game.

Speaker 3 (33:04):
I did that as well, because I didn't I don't
like being on Hotel Wi Fi.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
Oh yeah, that makes sense. So I keep seeing this
charge keeps popping up, and I'm like, oh, oh yeah,
I'll get around to canceling that. And there's some other
like little five dollars one for this web thing like
where it has a bunch of functions like converting audio
and stuff like that, where I'm like, I don't I
use it maybe like twice twice or once a month
at most, but anyway, they suggest going through. An easy

(33:30):
way to do it is to go through your credit
card statement and just look along and you're like, you'll
see all these little ones where you can kind of
like highlight the ones maybe you're not using, you're not
getting used out of. Yeah, this is now we're really
stretching here. They they came up with a list. I

(33:52):
guess it was adjacent to the People's Sexiest Man Alive
the Sexiest bald Man.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Now.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
They say it's based on a scientific ranking categories grinwith
scalp shine search interest. Uh yeah, so these are the
these are comparently the sexiest ballman of the year. Now.
Number ten I guess they're not taking intellect or or
smarts into this or charisma. Number ten is Vin Diesel basically, yeah,

(34:25):
the holding on.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
He's probably been on that list twenty years.

Speaker 2 (34:27):
Yeah, the missing link. Uh Stanley Tucci, I get that, ladies.
You know he's sort of a charming guy. Uh. Tierri
Henry a French football coach. I do not know him
at all. Samuel L. Jackson, I guess so. Danie DeVito.
I guess that's a that strikes me as odd that he'd.

Speaker 3 (34:46):
Be There's no reason to continue reading this.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
No, yeah, I know, yeah, who cares? Who cares?

Speaker 3 (34:54):
You know, these people are out of ideas.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
A little ball sexually, a bald guy.

Speaker 3 (35:01):
On it. He was never on that list even in
the eighties.

Speaker 2 (35:04):
I I, uh, it was funny. There's someone on my
hockey team who you know, my goalie basically, yeah, he
was sort of yeah, a head of hair, but he
was sort of balding slowly, and then a couple of
weeks ago he came in like with a complete buzz cut.
I was I was happy to invite him into our club,

(35:27):
a club that yeah, he basically did the me and
what a lot of the dudes are. It's you you
find like at some point you realize, yeah, you know what,
it's time. Just there's no sense like growing.

Speaker 3 (35:38):
It out you're pulling anybody.

Speaker 2 (35:40):
Yeah, it used to be you'd see all those guys
with the friar tucks and stuff and and the you know,
like your George.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Gestand really not be very common anymore.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
No, Like you see sometimes older guys and the worst
guys who like, uh they brought in the eighties, you see, yeah,
you see the lot us. It seemed like almost in
like a cliche for people in office settings and stuff
like that, like businessmen. But yeah, you don't see it
much anymore. I think people just shaved to the nub.

(36:12):
But there's some guys who they start bowling on top,
but they're still like proud of that, like that, they're
they're growing it at the back like a little bit.
On the long side, it's I'm not giving up my youth, right,
but you hang on however you can. Yeah, yeah, I've
been I've shaved it for a long time. I had
I had like very kind of fine, pretty hair and

(36:34):
you know, stylish when I was younger. But eventually it
was just like nope, uh, sleep sleep is I've been
sleeping pretty well generally. But if you don't sleep well,
there's a rule called the ten three two one zero.
So there's missing a bunch of numbers and they're nine

(36:55):
to four, but ten three two one zero ten hours
before bad no more caffeine.

Speaker 3 (37:04):
I've long held to that.

Speaker 2 (37:06):
Really ten hours.

Speaker 3 (37:08):
So let's seem so sensitive to caffeine as I've gotten older,
it's not even funny.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
So if you're going to bed at say at ten pm,
you don't have any caffeine afternoon?

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Correct wow.

Speaker 2 (37:18):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (37:19):
Occasionally maybe MI aesda at like four, but that would
be the very most and that's like maybe twice a year.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
Okay. I have a routine, like I have a big
old latte in the morning, and then the afternoon I
will have like a tea.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Yeah. People who can drink coffee after dinner I have,
So I'm so envious of that.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
No, I just I'll have a tea in the afternoon,
like around four o'clock. I need a little bit of
a caffeine boost.

Speaker 3 (37:44):
She's not necessarily like the jitteriness or anything, but like
the way it impacts me having to get up and
go to the bathroom over and over.

Speaker 2 (37:52):
Oh yeah, yeah, well because I I I drink a
lot of liquid. Like I like.

Speaker 3 (38:01):
About the caffeine THO would like it actuates.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Oh I see, it makes you want appel all the time.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (38:06):
Okay. So that's the ten ten hours before bed, no
more caffeine, and it skips to three hours before bed.
No more food or alcohol because it takes about three
hours for the food to go through your digestive system
and booze is not good for sleep. Two hours before bed,
no more worker studying anything that's mentally stimulating before bed

(38:27):
can affect your sleep. No stressful movies, sports and the news.
That's that one's hard because I'm always looking. I'm always
like seeing what's happening and stressing this one one hour
before bed. No more screen time. Oh okay, like TV, tablet, phone,

(38:48):
because the blue light will screw up your circadian rhythm.
I like to read, but I do have a like
electron an e book, a tablet, the kindle thing. But
I bought the version that's just the l else l
a liquor crystal LCD screen, so there's there's no actual

(39:08):
light emitting from it. It's just like an l CD
where my light illuminates it. So it's just basically black,
black and white, you know print. Uh. And then the
zero in this thing is don't don't hit the snooze
button in the morning. They say that's not a good thing.

Speaker 3 (39:25):
Okay, don't do that.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
Don't do that.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
I'll keep an eye out for the snooze button.

Speaker 2 (39:30):
Uh. This is uh, this is sort of you know,
we'll take a quick break. Uh, there's all right, Well,
we're going to talk about remote work, We're going to
talk a little bit about Trump, and I'll have a
little piece from uh comedian David Cross for you. It's
all coming up in a bit.

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Speaker 2 (40:05):
I think I have to edit that. No, we're just talking.
We're just talking about how I deleted my Twitter and uh,
then that's us good Twitter. You're gonna find like a
page not found if you go to that. But blue
Sky at Josh Holiday dot com too, elsod Uh, you

(40:25):
work remotely and I do some stuff remotely. They job
Secret dot Com release the report determining where if you
if you could pick anywhere in the world, if you
were able to work remotely and could go anywhere, where
would you go? Uh this one surprised me a little bit.
Canada is number one. I know, okay, but I like

(40:48):
I understand that, like for four or five months of
the year Canada in the summer and the.

Speaker 3 (40:53):
Falls they've been there in the summer, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (40:56):
It's beautiful. Every every Canadian city is like fifty percent
better in the summer, like the winter people hire grend
and of course there's cold activities, and there's some cities
that are built around winter, like Quebec City and stuff.
But I you know, maybe you would come here and
do your your remote work in the summer, but I

(41:17):
don't know about year round. I think the ideally like
there's I know these people who they have like a
cottage so in the kind of the nice lake area
north of the city about hour and a half. They
spend the whole like summer and stuff there, and then
they spend the winter down and somewhere in Mexico. But

(41:38):
there their fancy.

Speaker 3 (41:39):
That pounds ideal, except for the part where I get
sick in Mexico.

Speaker 2 (41:42):
But yeah, yeah, that's right. So Canada was number one.
Australia I get that it's nice and warm and interesting.
Switzerland the USA is number four. But I will qualify
that I would love to see because this study.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
I'm sure was done, we had to break it out
into individual regions.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
But also I would like to see how it's changed
since the election, because I know for myself, I certainly
had I been called, you know, I've been contemplating, oh,
could I live or winter in like somewhere where there's warmth,
and I can play hockey like like maybe in Orlando
or maybe California or something. But now I'm second guessing.

(42:21):
My god, I don't. I'm wary of it. I'm wary
of the States especially.

Speaker 3 (42:25):
I think that's an overstatement. But it'll take a few
years before it gets to be uh, you know, especially
heinous in my view. But we'll see.

Speaker 2 (42:33):
Yeah. Well let's I mean, I just I just hope
that that it's the.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
Problem is that oh you're down here and uh oh
oh yeah, you go the doctor. You know, that'll be
eight thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (42:44):
Yeah, well, I think did you get that I send
that to you. Healthcare is obviously in the news this
week in the States because one of the big healthcare.

Speaker 3 (42:54):
CEOs was.

Speaker 2 (42:57):
Killed killed in New York.

Speaker 3 (42:59):
He was murdered and very very obvious deliberate action.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Oh yeah, yeah, like there's a message being sent to
you know.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
This person apparently is an internet hero.

Speaker 2 (43:14):
Well that's the thing. It's it's where you'd expect a
lot of people like like you know, mourning, like oh,
this is the worst thing. There's a lot of people
who are kind of like, well, you know, the ratio
of people who have suffered and died because of the
insurance companies actions maybe.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
As middleman rent seekers, yeah, profit takers, uh huh, okay,
please continue. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (43:40):
So and that's the weird thing. Like I think most
like the United States, I think is one of the
only countries that has a system that's more of a
for profit.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Healthcare systeah, because we have we believe that markets can
solve all problems, and we believe that innovation will happen
by the fact that there are markets. Yeah, but there
isn't really a market, and they're like, oh well the
hope they'll be waiting. Lists may tell you how long
it takes to get a primary care visit scheduled for
a physical in the United States in this time, it's

(44:14):
a couple of months.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
Well even well here, even there's there's like we have
a lot of issues with that because because well a
lot of it is is because our our premier are
what our premier, Doug Ford is just a just a
he's he's actually trying to make the healthcare system worse
in Ontario. So he can say, well, it's not working,

(44:35):
let's bring in my corporate buddies and they'll take care
of advertise it.

Speaker 3 (44:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:38):
Yeah, he's trying to like like tank it so that
you can offer a solution of of his his buddies
coming in. So there's a chart here of how much
per capita like per person is spent on healthcare in
different countries, and so the average is one hundred and
ninety four dollars. The top is Ja with only eighty

(45:01):
two dollars. Canada is right around that average at one
hundred and ninety six dollars per person. The United States
comparatively is one thousand dollars and fifty five one fifty five,
So essentially like five times the cost of socialized healthcare
ten times ten times, yeah, okay, closer to ten times. Yeah,

(45:24):
my math is bad, but uh yeah it's brutal.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
Well, I guess it's not because it's almost two hundred fine,
I'm sorry, yeah it is.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Well, okay, so Japan, so it's more than ten times
the cost of in Japan, Sweden, Sweden the same thing.

Speaker 3 (45:39):
I mean, it's at a minimum five times of the average. Yes, yeah, yeah,
I mean it's it's shocking. How you know, the Cold
War that informed our politics and made us vigilance and
no watch out for socialism creeping socialism, blah blah blah,
markets mars capitalism raw raw. You know, they put that

(46:03):
slice of apple pie next to your healthcare bill and
they set the flag on the other side, and it's
gonna be okay, brother, Yeah, because you're not doing it
the other way. We're not socialized.

Speaker 2 (46:13):
Well, there's always there's always bankruptcy, right, you can always
declare bankruptcy, you know, if you get sick. Yeah, yeah,
it's yeah, it's insane, and obviously there is. You saw
that there's a great amount of frustration. I imagine there'll
be a lot more frustration when this administration starts getting Medicare.

Speaker 3 (46:33):
And did you see that there were a couple of
inture I mean there's at least one. I guess it's
across some blue shield. Was like, we're only going to
pay for the amount of anesthesia and your surgery for
the time that you've allotted we estimate the surgery will take.

Speaker 2 (46:44):
Yeah, so if you go over, you're paying for your
anesthesia or you're not getting it.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
So then after this CEO murder that was immediately reversed.

Speaker 2 (46:52):
Yeah, yeah, I saw that there was some action there,
which I thought was interesting. I wanted to squeeze the
s in. There's I came across a clip of Commute
and David Cross, and I thought it was recent because
it was about Trump and people voting for him and
having regret. But it's actually from about four years ago.
But it's as timely as it was then as timely

(47:13):
now play it for. This is David Cross.

Speaker 5 (47:15):
So there's this Twitter thing, twitter feed that I'm on
that's called Trump Regrets or Trump voter Regrets or something
like that, and it's a compendium of whenever somebody writes
that in their tweet, it.

Speaker 4 (47:27):
Sends it to this thing, and you know it's been
going on. They've compiled thousands and thousands of them. You know,
there's somebody posted a couple of days ago, Dear President Trump,
I'm starting to regret my vote.

Speaker 5 (47:43):
What now, now you're starting to regret? Yeah, that's right.
I mean I was fine in the beginning. I can
overlook and I'm okay with the blatant race and the
crass sexism and the deranged narcissism and pandering the Nazis

(48:04):
and supporting pet of files and proudly bragging about being
a sexual predator and paying your mistress to have an
abortion and openly cheating your employees and mocking the disabled
and praising murderous dictators. And the constant pathological lying, the petty,
vindictive cruelty, the staggering ineptitude, the unapologetic corruption, the nepotism,
the mop tize, the calculated mendacity, ignorance as to how

(48:27):
American government works, encouraging violence against those that question your authority.
The theft of our tax dollars to pay off your
mountain of debt and or go golfing. Did I mentioned
the relentless lie You're a liar, being a white nationalist
demonizing immigrants, The obvious disregard of the Bill of Rights,
lying about whether Russia had hacked our election when you
do all along it had, then lying about lying about it.
The collusion with our sworn enemy and the sworn enemy

(48:49):
of democracy, Your dereliction of duty, your treasonous activities. And
I was with you when you cheated. I was with
you when you cheated on your wife with that porn star,
the one you compared favorably to your daughter. You cheated

(49:10):
on your wife, not the wife you raped, but the
current wife who had just given birth to your son.
And of course I was with you when we found
out you cheated with the playboy playmate, the one you
compared favorably to your daughter, not with the wife you
have now, but the second wife whose kid you ignore.
And of course I was with you, President Trump when
you when you took the babies away. You took infants breastfeeding,

(49:31):
literally breastfeeding from their mothers and fathers, people families who
had made this arduous crek to come here and seek asylum.

Speaker 3 (49:40):
They just wanted to seek asylum.

Speaker 5 (49:42):
And and you took them, and you sent reported the parents,
and you took them and separated them, sent the kids
one hundreds of miles away in a disused Walmart, in
a inside of a cage with armed guards pointing guns
at them. And then, of course, and then doesn't during
the private prison contractors Corcific and Geo Group but donated

(50:03):
heavily to you can pay their collective four billion in
profit as those toddlers sob and whimper and absolute terror,
traumatized for life. Of course I was with you with that.
But this last omnibus spending bill is where I draw a.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Line pretty much sums it up.

Speaker 3 (50:20):
Yeah, Well, those private prison entities are poised to, oh, yeah,
money when we build some Texas based utation camps.

Speaker 2 (50:31):
I guess, yeah, the camp, Well that I think that
I think it just came out. But but there's a
book about the separation of of of kids from their parents,
Like it's just it's just like, I don't know why
that hasn't hasn't been a focus lately or wasn't in
the election, where these essentially you're you're stealing kids from
their parents never to see them again. It's it's it's right.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
Yes, it's just so what's that going to cause? That's
that person going to grow up healthy and well adjusted
to whatever situation?

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Probably, Yeah, well it's just insane. That's it is essentially
like very similar to what happened in Germany, like kids
being separated from the parent, Like it's just so crazy.
They wrote a book about it, and then I think
there was a movie that debuted on television recently where
they are documentary where they.

Speaker 3 (51:18):
There's a time of sir war article from a few
years back called the Cruelty is the point?

Speaker 2 (51:23):
I think? Is he the one who wrote the book
I know is someone who is a journalist coming in.

Speaker 3 (51:28):
From the Atlantic, But yeah, I was talking to somebody
the other day and I got to a point where
them where I was like, oh, you're you're mad, You're
angry with the migrants that are here, And they were like, yeah, yeah,
I'm angry at him. And I said, I'm not angry
at them, because I'm looking at like where are they
coming from and why is it the way it is

(51:48):
where they're from, And a lot of that has to
do with the United States economic foreign policy.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
Well, plus like how is it affecting your life in
a negative way?

Speaker 3 (51:58):
There? There they have to think about it. They had
I mean, now this person lives in a place that is,
you know, more of a minority enclave now than it
was you know, a long time.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Ago in Texas somewhere.

Speaker 3 (52:12):
I'm guessing yeah, yeah, So I mean it's just like
but you know, I mean still, well.

Speaker 2 (52:17):
There's also a misconception, uh that these these migrants or
these undocumented people don't contribute, But they contribute billions of
billions and billions of.

Speaker 3 (52:30):
Dollars dollars a year in tax revenue comes from illegal
immigrants every year, every year, one hundred billion.

Speaker 2 (52:38):
And for the most part, that money doesn't make its
way back to them because they're because they undocumented.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
They have no claim to Social Security, workman's comp uh pay,
any kind of sick leave, none of that stuff. What
what unemployment insurance? They can't claim that, and they're.

Speaker 2 (52:54):
Doing the work that like no no Americans seems to
want to do, like the hardest rough to find out.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
I mean yeah, I mean unless we have carve outs
for people in farm employee, you're going to see dramatic
inflation here, so.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
Loss to look forward to in this new year. Everybody
is exciting. All right, Well, we uh we laid it
out there. I don't know what we solved, but we'll
be here again next week and we hope to see
you then. Have a good week.

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The show is over. The show is over.

Speaker 4 (53:26):
Lessons we're learned.

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Speaker 3 (53:54):
That's Joe.

Speaker 2 (53:55):
It's over. Okay we'rolled down.

Speaker 3 (53:57):
Now, this show is over. See you see you next.
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