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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Live from Toronto to the world.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
This is Josh Holiday Live.

Speaker 3 (00:04):
Josh is like a sleep talker.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Josh is the same level as me.

Speaker 3 (00:08):
Like this vibe is just like strong and masculine and tough.

Speaker 1 (00:13):
Talked at rocks. Got something to say?

Speaker 4 (00:15):
What do you have to say?

Speaker 1 (00:16):
The phone lines are now open, Kyles six four seven
six yo. Josh operators are standing by. Race yourself. Josh
Holiday Live starts.

Speaker 5 (00:27):
No, yeah, hey, look at that. It's another Saturday morning.
It is Josh Holiday Live. I am Josh Holiday. And
Burt is here.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Oh yes, yes, indeed, hey, Burt, what else are we gonna.

Speaker 5 (00:53):
Do on a Saturday morning? The only other option probably
would be like sleeping in. But you know, we got it.
We have we have chores, the chore of making this
show radio radio everybody. Uh, for you kids out there,
what radio is showball? Tell you the liberals what they're doing. Uh,

(01:18):
they're trying to it. It was a liberal conspiracy to shoot.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Trump, but they couldn't get him.

Speaker 5 (01:27):
God only God, the Lord and our Lord and save
your Uh. We were off for a week and uh man,
a lot of stuff happened.

Speaker 2 (01:35):
Yeah. There was almost no news, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:38):
Almost zero. It was one of those dead periods in
the summer where nothing really happens.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
It's like I can't handle it. It's coming so fast.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
Yeah, it's crazy. Uh uh Yeah. Like the running mate
was announced that the evil jd. Vance.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
I'm glad you said it.

Speaker 5 (01:57):
Why you don't think he's evil?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Oh he is. I just don't be the one to
say it. Yeah. No, worse than Trump.

Speaker 5 (02:05):
Yeah, Well, because he's he's like, he's smart evil not
kind of.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Like he's got that Peter Teele connection of well we're
gonna just be fascist now.

Speaker 5 (02:15):
Yeah. Essentially he was the choice of both the Project
twenty twenty five religious nutbags.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah that guy.

Speaker 5 (02:24):
Yeah, and also of all the tech billionaires. So you know,
he's working for evil and not for good. He's working
for billionaires and not everyday people, right, which you know
is kind of we expected that of any candidate, but
he's of all the candidates, he's the one who is
probably the most dangerous.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
Does he wear eyeliner?

Speaker 5 (02:46):
I mean it feels like it.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
Or does he just have but he's doing it every
day since forever.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
Yeah, I don't know. Maybe it's just like he has
a natural like my dog. My dog has thick lashes.
That are so thick that the last but he has
it looks almost like he's wearing an eyeliner. Oh it's
speaking of Uh did you see Matt Gates is uh
a surgery?

Speaker 2 (03:08):
I did? My Gates tried to talk smacked to Kevin McCarthy.

Speaker 5 (03:12):
Oh no, no, but did you see like his.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
As to how he looked like.

Speaker 5 (03:17):
His eyes all bull It is really really terrible.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I mean, what is I don't understand. I don't even
get plastic surgery is such a crapshoot. Yeah, even botox
injections are you know, uncharted waters really for your face.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
But it almost it does almost look like he uh
it almost looks like he had more than that done.
Like it looks like he has stuff pulled back. But anyway, whatever, I.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Live for something. Yeah, he needs that to appeal to Yeah,
how he does.

Speaker 5 (03:47):
He wants to look less uh.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
Old because he is old, and he appeals to the
young ladies, so we hear.

Speaker 5 (03:54):
But yeah, well they appeal to him, and money appeals
to them, I guess. So yeah, and then uh, well, yeah,
that Trump was was shot at by some shot dumb kid.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Apparently was one to go out in the blaze a
glory and was googling everybody who was going to have
a public appearance within how many hundred miles of his house?

Speaker 5 (04:18):
Well, and then then there's the whole thing, like you
saw the pictures. The very next day, after an assassin
assassination attempt, Trump's on the golf course golfing away. The
first person to call the person who was killed at
his rally of of of note was Biden. And when
he was on the golf course, lots of pictures taken, nothing,

(04:40):
nothing unusual about his ear. And then later later that
night banged giant cotex on there.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
A Trump snow job. Do you think this is true?

Speaker 5 (04:50):
I'm not gonna I'm not going to dive down into
the conspiracy holes. There's a lot of like weird, suspicious things,
but certainly the band aid thing is ridiculous, because you know,
there wasn't anything really the next to.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
Me when he winced, he looked hurt, like he looked
like he had been caught off guard. Yeah, and he
didn't know what was happening, No, at first, and then
he ducks down and then we go to the RNC
and he gives us a moment by moment recap.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
That takes his version, his version of events.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
Ten minutes for him to talk about, which we've all
been running in on a loop basically.

Speaker 5 (05:29):
Yeah, well and that was only like like that was
maybe fifteen twenty minutes of like a ninety minute ramble.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Like it was brutal. I haven't even gotten all the
way through it, you know.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
I I saw bits and pieces, but like I'm not good.
I can't sit through that, right right, I don't have
time for that. So yeah, that's that. I was off
last week. Oh look at you have a guess. Sorry
you can't see this, audience, but there's a giant cat
on a giant cat on your.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Lap, look in my lap.

Speaker 5 (06:01):
You almost look like a villain. Now, whenever someone hasn't
on their lap and it's petting his head, it's a dude.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Any dude with a cat around is a subject to
be villain us.

Speaker 5 (06:10):
Yes, especially if it's on your lap and you're kind
of rubbing its head.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
That's what I'm not supposed to do. You can't amper cuddles.

Speaker 5 (06:17):
I understand. I have a dog who is very similar
to that. Yeah, so we were off last week. My
sister and her nephew were in a town it was
a crazy week. It was fun. She was supposed to
come with her whole family, like like her and her
two sons and her dad or her dad their dad.

(06:39):
But somehow, like one of the sons is having a
little trouble and he decided he wasn't going to come,
and so the father had to stay home. So it
was half the family and we went to the Niagara Falls,
which you still haven't been to.

Speaker 2 (06:52):
No, yeah, I haven't been.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
Uh, it's it's hard to describe me. The area we
stayed in was in the main ain't like staying carnival
adjacent because there's one street there called Cliff Clifton Hill,
and it's about a two blocks block and a half
of fun houses, fudge factories, haunted houses, mini golfs, all that,

(07:19):
all that stuff. It's basically a carnival. And it at
the foot of it is the Fall, so you're right
kind of in the thick of it. There is another ah,
you know, since the early that's sort of the early days,
the Niagara Falls was built up right around that area,
and then there is another area that's more like built
up with casinos and fancy restaurants. But yeah, of course

(07:42):
everyone likes a casino. Yeah, we stayed in a stay
in a hotel, partially because it came with with like
a water park package. The kids loved, although the it
got used basically for about four or five hours and

(08:02):
I didn't go, but my sister reported that my young nephew,
who's like just turned thirteen, he spent less time in
the water park than playing on a basketball court they
had there, So has Aly he went to play basketball
for this basketball Yeah, yeah, I know he liked it,

(08:23):
But it just seems like for all the trouble we
went to get this water park thing that could have
gone to a local school or something. And the hotel
we were in is it's been there for ages and ages,
and I think they're slowly doing a renovation, not so
much renovation, but like refacing and making nicer and redoing

(08:45):
the rooms. I had a what would be termed a
newer like a newer room room that's sort of been converted,
had a nice new wallpaper, you fancy, big TV and stuff.
But the one thing that they wouldn't seem to get
rid of is that old. Like if you've ever been
to someone's house who's been a lifelong smoker, even if

(09:08):
they've even if they've quit for like ten years, the
walls just have it. So there's just that sort of
like like old cigarette smell, even though probably probably no
one smoked, because I mean, at least for ten years
there's been no smoking hotel rooms.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
I want to be able to like walk into the
I want because that's such a smell from the past,
because it's so uncommon now. Even smokers often will just
not smoke in their house anymore because even see the degradation. Yeah,
but it's just like I want to walk into that
and smell and go, oh, yeah, I remember that, and
then walk out again and not stay there.

Speaker 5 (09:43):
Yeah. But and it was not like it's not like
a cigarette smell. It's kind of like just an old smell.
But you know, that was sort of the Yeah, so
they all the everything was like new wallpaper and beds
and stuff. Uh. And then it was a small like
I it was a small room like I got King,
but I was staying in a different room King Bad.
And my view is like directly into like a multi

(10:03):
level parking lot in the top of the water park.
And the bathroom was tiny and in the when they
went to redo it, they have the vanity, and right
next to it is the toilet, and it's too close.
So whenever every time I sleep, yeah, even a small
every time I sat down on the toilet, banged my

(10:25):
elbow or my shoulder on the vanity because it's just
like it really is, like between the side of the
toilet seat in the vanity there's probably about three inches.

Speaker 2 (10:33):
So was there like a generous shower instead.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
Stand up shower? I I didn't even use it because
I went to the spa one day and had a
fancy steam and shower and stuff. Even and again, you
have never done a spa thing.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
I think I have a spot.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
Okay, you gotta treat yourself once in a while.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
I just didn't resonate with me, so I wasn't.

Speaker 5 (10:58):
But there's definitely a contrast because my sister had a
room across the hall. I didn't check out their bathroom situation,
but out their window, like directly across was the US
Falls and just if you look sideways you could see
the Canadian Falls, so they had a really great view.
And I had a parking lot and a stinky room,
and their room didn't smell so stinky. So there you go.

(11:21):
Niagara falls is a tourist a very like touristy thing,
and with that comes it's usually expensive, like crazy expensive. Everything.
Everything is a little bit more expensive. What really caught
us off guard is and I had never been to
a rainforest cafe before.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Huh have you been?

Speaker 5 (11:44):
No?

Speaker 2 (11:46):
That showed up about twenty years ago. Yeah, north of Dallas.
That was I was like, oh, okay, looks like a gimmick.
Food's probably not that great, you know, no, thank.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
You, Yeah, you're right. So there used to be one,
like in a mall here, and I always avoided it,
you know, I would go and look at them.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
They kind of I think they had their moment.

Speaker 5 (12:06):
Yeah, well apparently, according to maybe their menu, this is
the last one in Canada. There might be some still
around summer. But because we were with my thirteen year
old nephew and because we were in nigrophas and like,
well we'll do you know something silly.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
Right, that's about okay, here's probably about the peak age
to even attempt to enjoy that, the last vestige before
it's going to get no longer. I can. This isn't
for me.

Speaker 5 (12:32):
Well, and when you go in there, I think most
most people haven't least seen it, but it's it's basically
designed like a jungle. So there's all kinds of leaves
and then bad, bad jerky animatronic animals where their heads
go and then they kind of snap into place in
their years.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, and then every once in a while there's chuck
e cheese.

Speaker 5 (12:51):
Yeah, every once in a while there's a strobe light
that goes off and sound of thunder.

Speaker 2 (12:56):
You're good and uh yeah.

Speaker 5 (12:59):
My being question was because there's all the like everywhere
you look, on the on the ceiling, all over it's
like fake plants, fake foliage. How Like, how do you
dust and clean that? Like it just seems like an
impossible task.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
They got a little brush on a vacuum somewhere. Yeah,
but then a person assigned to that task that's part
of the sidework of a waiter somewhere.

Speaker 5 (13:21):
Yeah, So so we ate there. I had like a
chicken parm with some pasta. That was the past It
was so bland, it was it was. It was even
more bland than if it had just had a salty
butter on it.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
It would never be good. No, all the energy of
that business has been put into the the acuter mole, you.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
Know, yeah, well, okay, now this is itch. So, so
my sister and I got a meal, I think my
nephew and I got some smoothies. She had a like
an alcoholic drink. He had chicken wings, like a side
or a chicken wing side order fries. My sister had
some tacos and those are the.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
Drinks in Canada. Yeah, I mean just want me to
trip myself to get the litle she had.

Speaker 5 (14:06):
So she had alcoholic drink, we had smoothies. And that
was the food and the total of the bill after
after like an eighteen percent tip or so was for
for two adults and a thirteen year old, not eating
like a full meal like in this Canadian dollars, but
about two hundred and twenty five whoa for that kind

(14:28):
for bad food and like just a basically a family restaurant.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Of course, it.

Speaker 5 (14:33):
Was like insanity, insane.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
Good luck Grainport Campe.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
I don't know, like once I probably, like in retrospect,
probably once we sat down and looked at the prices
on the menu, we should probably should have like stood
up and been like, yeah, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
Not for me, I mean I don't. I mean, there's
one thing, there's like kitch bad tourist food and then
there's overpriced kitch bad tourist food. Yeah. It ran into both.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
Yeah, And the first we went there, we went to
this in our hotel there's like a fancy Italian restaurant
had really really good meal, and I.

Speaker 2 (15:05):
I think hotel restaurant was good.

Speaker 5 (15:08):
Well it's it's like a they had it's part like,
I mean, it's open to other people than the hotels,
because yeah, sure it's it's a is it in it's
not even in Uh, it's in the hotel next to ours,
like the even fancier hotel, but it's on the fourteenth
floor with like giant windows on the falls, so you're
partially paying for the view. But I think even if

(15:29):
in that fancy like Italian restaurant, I think we probably
paid less than the than the crappy rainforest cafe. Yeah.
Lesson learned, Yeah, lesson learned. Uh, And everywhere was just
seemed over over the overpriced you know what restaurant. I
I don't think we have a lot of them in Canada,
but we went to and it wasn't actually too bad
that that would be considered sort of a family chain.

(15:51):
Is that Ruby Tuesdays. It was okay, Like all things considered,
it wasn't you know, it wasn't like to.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
Think about it is like that's what you think the
first couple of times, okay, and then you keep going
back because my college town had one of those, and
we started going and by the time I was out
of college, I was like, which was only two and
a half years in this particular stop of my journey,
but yeah, I was like this, I'm done with this place.
All right.

Speaker 5 (16:15):
Well that's after going a bunch of times, like I
just went. I was in Niagara Falls. I had a crack,
Like I really.

Speaker 2 (16:21):
It was like that's not bad, and that's that's about right.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
Yeah, exactly. It was well, but better than an Applebee's
or like maybe in terms of those like like fairly
generic family chain.

Speaker 2 (16:32):
Restaurants, I don't know, but I mean I feel like
there's hidden there must be hidden gyms at Applebee's that
keep them in business, but I'm not going there to
which one's good. The onion pedals were good onion pedals
onion peels. They would have a little little fried it
was like a bloomin onion on more accessible because they
were just like a little bit better dipped and cut.

Speaker 5 (16:54):
Well. Yeah, the classic Australian dish that you always hear
Australians talking about is the sac bloomin onion.

Speaker 2 (17:01):
But it's really the sauce. That's what you're there for.
Is that hollandais or whatever it is that they put
on there.

Speaker 5 (17:07):
Put it, put another strip on the bobby and get
me one of them bloomin onions. Uh. I love go karting.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Uhts are fun.

Speaker 5 (17:19):
You can't go wrong with it there. Last time I
went to ni Aga Falls, actually you can go well, yes,
especially if they have long hair and it gets caught
in the gears. But I don't have to worry about that.

Speaker 2 (17:27):
But there's also like when you go to the like
aggressive driver go cart track. You've ever been to one
of those?

Speaker 5 (17:32):
Well, I was just gonna say that. Last time I
went to Niagara Falls, we drove out of the main
area to this track where they had like like very fast,
like like fast cars.

Speaker 2 (17:42):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (17:42):
It was it was pretty fun, but it was like
really like really fast.

Speaker 2 (17:46):
I went in in high school. We started going go
karting and then we went to this place that I
don't even remember where. It was somewhere in Dallas and
they or maybe in between the two cities, and it
was like this triangle track triangle, and those guys were
so aggressive. I mean I got bumped into the middle

(18:07):
tires like off the road more than once, not and
not like stacked up like the tires. There isn't much,
you know, it's just a very little hump, and then
it's like you get bumped and then you're just in
it and then you're like, oh, I got I'm now
off this track. I gotta up. There's certain times where

(18:28):
it's like you've got you enter into a little subculture
of dudes who are into this and very hard. Yeah. Uh.

Speaker 5 (18:37):
The fast tracking went on, like I I want to
pass people, but the only way I could, like like
this is the one I went to the last time
we was like super fast is what would be You
would have to kind of like be aggressive to the
point where you might bump someone. So I just kind
of got stuck behind people. But it was still it
was still fast this time around because it's you know,
more family. They have guys kind of standing around the

(19:00):
tracks at certain points to make sure there's no no bumping,
and they have signs everyone no bumping, no bumping, you
may get kicked off the track, blah blah blah, and
my like, they weren't the fastest cards, so the whole
way basically, I just have my footpressed down like there's
never any breaking or slowing.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
Down as you know, like you're like a full sized
but yeah.

Speaker 5 (19:23):
So I have that disadvantage. But I ended up passing
I think about seven people and no one passed me,
so that was my achievement. Didn't bump anybody. Yeah, so
that was I go carts. Oh in along with the
funhouses and CARNIVALI stuff, there's at least three wax museums

(19:47):
in Niagara Falls. Okay, there's a Louis Tussau, which you
know is two so yeah, yeah, nephew or uncle or something.
He's got the Tussau name and looking and like I
did look. I was curious. I looked under the trip
Advisor and the Google to sort of see, okay, which
wax museum sort of is and the two so one

(20:08):
was the It still wasn't greatly reviewed, but of the
of the bunch of ones there it was, it was higher.
But we ended up getting one of those those six
attraction passes, which actually ended up being worthwhile. They had
a really a pretty wicked mini golf dinosaur thing with
a real you know, giant volcano and dinad and so

(20:30):
that was fun. And they have this giant fair like
ferris wheel that that you can look over the fall.
So part of the part of our package though, was
admission to this movie Land wax Museum. Oh yeah, So
it's all about characters from movies, and in some cases
they have like sort of they have the little scene,

(20:53):
like the background and the set looks like like the
scene from the movie. Now that's important because at this
wax museum, if you just look at the faces of
these people, you probably wouldn't be able to sort of
sort out Okay, uh, what's who is that?

Speaker 2 (21:12):
Do you have to go you have to look at
the scenario?

Speaker 5 (21:14):
Well, yeah, one of two things. One of two things.
They thankfully they had little signs at the bottom of
the wax figures that told you who it was, all right,
because like almost all like if you go on my
uh my Instagram in my face, but I know you're
you're on there, you'll see. Uh, it's just it's just
really really bad I I I. Yeah, it was. It

(21:41):
was crazily confusing, like especially there's Tom Cruise.

Speaker 2 (21:46):
Yeah, I want to start a wax museum that just
says no Tom Cruise.

Speaker 5 (21:51):
Yeah. Well he was only one, but he looked like
Warren Beatty basically his face looks.

Speaker 2 (21:56):
I mean, it's wahms are just I don't even get.

Speaker 5 (21:59):
And then there was another, and there was one that
I only guessed it was Adam Sandler because he was
swinging a golf club like a hockey stick. There you go, oh, okay,
that's supposed to be And they had a Jimmy fallon
little desk one and he looked very simium.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
It was just not a good wax museum. And I
understand why it was kind of a throw in.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Sure, Uh it's in the air conditioning. That's a reliable
air condition scenario. Waxes you and they got to keep
those characters cold.

Speaker 5 (22:26):
Well you heard, you heard. I guess within last month
or so they made this. I think it was a
Lincoln wax figure at the monument.

Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yes, yes, it was in DC and it melted.

Speaker 5 (22:35):
It was outdoors. Yeah, one of the thought process there,
but it melted.

Speaker 2 (22:41):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (22:41):
I stumbled it. I'm gonna I stumbled across. I love
David Attenborough. But I stumbled across this clip of this
bird that not all like wild bird in the jungle,
not only imitates other birds really really accurately, but pretty
much anything he hears around him. So there's like like
odd human sound sounds of industry and stuff. And I'll

(23:03):
play some clips of that in a seconds. It's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 4 (23:16):
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Speaker 2 (23:17):
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Speaker 5 (23:38):
Yeah, my voice is terrible. It is Holiday Live.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (23:46):
That's the kiss song I was made for.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Loving you baby, Disco kiss. Huh, Disco Kiss.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
That was when Kiss when Disco And I will tell
you this. My sister and I, Uh, I guess my
parents had that album and we played that song in
our living room over and over and over. I guess
it was like ear candy for the for us.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Here were your parents fans of disco or kiss or
contemporary music?

Speaker 5 (24:16):
I think just a combination because they also like like
stuff that I was not into, Like they had arrange,
like they had their urnanimous schoories and stuff.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Like that too, right, I don't know what that is.

Speaker 5 (24:27):
The Eagles, they had the Eagles, you know, sort of
in the middle kind of stuff, but they had they
did have this album.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
And so they were only fans of Kiss once they
hit like top forty radio.

Speaker 3 (24:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
I don't even know, Like, I can't imagine that we Yeah,
it must. They must have brought the album in, but
I don't know if it's because we had sort of
expressed some into it's it's all a blur because we
were so young.

Speaker 2 (24:48):
Young and he seem older than me. But I was
so young when Kiss was popular. My cousin had Kiss
posters on his wall and I had to sleep in
his room.

Speaker 5 (24:59):
Hey, they didn't scary.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
It was horrifying, really, Yeah. I mean I was probably
like four or five years old and he's got Kiss posters.
It's all kiss posters.

Speaker 5 (25:09):
Yeah, I guess with the like in there in the
posters they're like there's blood.

Speaker 2 (25:13):
Probably it's a whole mess to a five year old child.
And then we went back a couple of years later,
and thank god, he'd gotten into women. There was a
one kiss poster and the rest of it was you know,
Sherylteeks or something.

Speaker 5 (25:25):
Okay, I this is okay, I'm going to admit something
embarrassing here, which is nothing new for the show. But
in when I was like in my teens, uh, there
was like a video game store we would go to
buy video games for our for our television or yeah,

(25:46):
and in the store there was a poster for for
Sony something and it was this lady in a in
a blue one piece bathing suit type thing and uh,
you know, gap in that air, like just to like
there was something about it that for a long time
that was like like I was like, oh my god,

(26:07):
at that age, that became the stuff of fantasy for
for quite a long time. So well, it wasn't at
the time, it was new. So recently I was like,
I wonder if I can, just out of curiosity to
go back and see what exactly I was.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Like a walkman poster.

Speaker 5 (26:25):
It may very well have been or some kind of
sewing video thing.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
She just got on clear shorts. As I'm looking at
the options on that, I.

Speaker 5 (26:34):
Don't think I really did a deep dive. Shit, it's
a blue one piece bathing suit is what I remember
kind of like a like a similar to sort of
what you've seeing like Jane fond of the old sort
of exercise type videos.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
Good.

Speaker 5 (26:46):
But I couldn't find it anywhere, and I thought if
the internet should, like somewhere, I should be able to
find that, but it did not appear. Oh, we were
talking about the Kiss I Was Made for loving the
song we just played a bit of. Uh, it just
hit one billion streams on Spotify. It's the it's the first,

(27:06):
Uh that's over nineteen seventy nine, the first song from
Kiss to hit the Billions Club.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Oh okay, Well I was going to say it wasn't
the first song to hit the Billions Club. Surely, No,
for that that makes sense for them. That's about right.

Speaker 5 (27:20):
I think that's the song. The secondary song, like the
one that probably is more emblematic of Kiss generally is
probably the I want to rock and roll on nine.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Party or sure, But I mean I Was Made for
Love You is more approachable than most of the other songs.

Speaker 5 (27:36):
Well, I would say it's more I mean, it's clearly
more commercial because it's actually been used in a bunch
of commercials.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
And yeah, and it's more, it's more complex it. You know,
a lot of their stuff is like, you know, three chord,
you know, and then you got three pieces.

Speaker 5 (27:49):
And I take pride in the fact that now, like
if I listen to my car whatever, I can like
do the fake whip thing and actually get I think
it's on every sixth thing. I'm not music little bit
like every six sort of doom.

Speaker 2 (28:02):
At a certain level. Kiss had like a strip down,
like they've got a bass, a lead, and a drummer,
and then on this you had a lot of studio
production and as you say, a whip crack apparently. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (28:14):
Also the like as a as a kid, it just
was cool because they were you know, they were makeup
and I remember seeing that bad movie they did Kiss,
like where there an amusement park.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
In the park. Yeah, and Halloween in the park, probably.

Speaker 5 (28:28):
Because I like theme parks and behind it is cool
are cool too, So all that stuff came together.

Speaker 2 (28:33):
Yes, it was, you know. I mean I've seen that
it's available on YouTube.

Speaker 5 (28:37):
It's not the best, yeah, well probably not now. Back
then though, now, I mean it's it.

Speaker 2 (28:42):
We were the right age to be enjoying that at
the time.

Speaker 5 (28:45):
And I one I told I think I told you
this before one Halloween we decided to go out as
like kiss and we we found these ladies boots in
the likes people who put out in the garbage. We
found child Hey. Yeah, we wore them for Halloween and
realized that, oh that's not good for that actually was painful.
If you walk around in.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Those which character were you?

Speaker 5 (29:07):
I think it was probably Jeans him and yeah, yeah,
I think he's sort of the go to oh you know,
Paul Stanley and yeah, uh okay, So I promise you
this I was. I'm a huge David Attenborough fan and
a right if you don't know who David Attenborough is,
you reckon. You'll recognize the voice right away. But British

(29:30):
nature guy. If you're going to watch the Planet Earth series,
those are brilliant. I know in some American versions they
put Oprah on them, but he is the quintessential like oh,
the lion is looking for his pray and he's just an amazing,
amazing gentleman. There's a documentary about his life as well.
It's just just like just an amazing guy. He's really

(29:52):
like I think he's in almost late nineties now and
he's still at it, but I stumbled across across this
clip where I'm not gonna play the whole clip, but
early on, there's this bird in the jungle that can
to impress mates and stuff he imitates, but a bunch
of different birds, different birds, sounds, birds and birds. Yeah,

(30:15):
I guess he can imitate the call of almost any bird.
But then it gets a little weird where he also
is able to mimic stuff that he hears in his environment.
And that's what I'll play for you.

Speaker 6 (30:28):
Hear he can imitate the calls of at least twenty
different species. He also, in his attempt to out sing
his rivals, incorporates other sounds that he hears in the forest.

(30:50):
That was a camera shutter and again.

Speaker 4 (31:03):
And now a camera with a motor drive, and that's
a problem.

Speaker 3 (31:14):
Yeah, yeah, And now the sounds of protesters and their
chainsaws working nearby.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
M hm, that's a that's too intense, man. I mean,

(31:50):
like all the sounds of modernity that are a nuisance.

Speaker 5 (31:54):
But the bird, like the cameras, It's like, oh.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Guess what, I got all these in my bag to
attract a mate. The ladies, here's some chainsaws, here's some
logging trucks and they do they have the beep beep
when the truck backs up. I'm sure going to be
even more annoying.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
Yeah, but even it's I guess it goes to show
that like even in nature, dudes are trying to do
crazy things to attract ladies. Like just they are like, hey,
look at me back they're plumage. You know it's out.
But like that camera click with the like with the motor,
it was like so specific, like.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
The very very it just sounds like the thing itself.

Speaker 5 (32:31):
Yeah, like like and this is just like a bird,
like a little bird doing doing all these things. It's
just a yeah, just kind of caught me off guards
over the crap. That's the coolest bird I think I've
ever seen.

Speaker 4 (32:42):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (32:43):
Yes, I also heard there's birds in the wild that
will like sometimes talk or swear and stuff. And it's
because people release their their home raised birds.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
Right Yeah, and the potty mouth now that they're spreading out.

Speaker 5 (32:58):
They spread, they spread in nature. I'm always fascinatingd by
and I'm always like like amazed by I don't know what.
It's like a weird curiosity when whenever there's any kind
of like like animal that has the ability to kill

(33:18):
a man or a person. I'm always sort of fascinated
by that, like whether it's snakes, sharks, alliators, crocodiles. I'm
just I have it's part of it is a morbid curiosity,
like like I've seen videos where you know, really untowards
stuff happens, and I'm just it just I don't know
if it's that primordial kind of like it's just man

(33:40):
versus beast kind of thing. But there's a lady who
this week, I think she's in her sixties. She lives
in Florida. She lives on a river in Florida, and
she's seen this female crocodile who who mostly is across
the river from her and doesn't do any any any
harm or whatever. And then in recent months she saw

(34:03):
this male guy who's kind of come around and she
saw him to take this apossum, a possum carcass from
under her deck. And he's been in the area yet.
This lady does a big yoga workout and relaxes and
she thinks, you know, I'm just gonna have a swim,
wade into the water, and of course this male crocodile

(34:24):
grabs her and tries to tries to pull her, and
she at least she's aware of like sort of what
they're going to.

Speaker 2 (34:30):
Do, because how rude.

Speaker 5 (34:31):
Yeah, he's pulling her out, and she knows he's gonna
he's going to death roll her where they twist, try
and separate your limbs from you and then h and
I guess he had already some like a scar, some
a wound on his nose from something else. So uh,
at the final moment, she managed to like whack that
whack that really hard and prize jaws and she got

(34:53):
out and quickly got to the shore and her kids
called that woman. But just the that even if she
did die like that, would I would feel that would
fit into the category of Darwinism because like in all
kinds of in the comments, because I'm sort of curious
what people had to say in the comments, people were saying,
anyone who lives in Florida knows you just don't go

(35:15):
into into any real water there except for the ocean,
because it's bound to have confused with lizards. There are
tons of alligators, deadly lizards. Yeah, I was I'm always
curious because you see I see stories of like kids
swimming and crieks in in in like the Southern States.
I was swimming on the creek. Yeah, there's there's alligators around,

(35:36):
but they won't harm you, but not in this case.
It's so Yeah, and of course they had to kill
the alligator.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah, because now it's gout the taste for human blood.

Speaker 5 (35:49):
Well, I think part of the problem too is, uh,
you know, some dumb dums because they like to see
the alligators. They'll feed them and bring them in. And
the alligator doesn't have the brain. He's like, oh people
your food food people people food people are food ra
bat But yeah, I again, I'm always fascinating by like

(36:12):
animal nature encounters with you know, giant snakes or crocodiles
or alligators. I don't know what it is. I'm a
sick man. I'm a very sick man. Everyone loves to
save some money. I have some some people wade in
on just random things they do to to try and
save money. Some of them are kind of like really,

(36:33):
like you're at the expense of just everyday pleasure. But
we'll we'll share some of these in a sect.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
People say a lot of things about Josh.

Speaker 5 (36:43):
There's a website devoted to all things Josh, you're kidding me.

Speaker 1 (36:46):
No, Sometimes things that are even nice.

Speaker 4 (36:49):
I was immediately attracted to Josh, tell them what do
you think?

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Any time caller text at six four seven six, ye
oh Josh, it's talked at flocks. It's Josh Holiday Live.

Speaker 2 (37:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (37:09):
Another one of those rock like power rock like the
like the kids. Bad debt also used for commercials Frankenstein
or Frankenstein. Maybe I should have used that earlier because
there's a Frankenstein haunted house at the Niagara Falls. But

(37:33):
too late for that. Too late.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
Everyone's looking for a way to save a buck.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
Uh, and this is uh.

Speaker 5 (37:41):
Someone posted online, what are some things that you've adopted
that made a big impact over time on saving money?
So here's some of those ones. Uh. For online shopping.
This person leaves it in the cart and says if
they come back to the cart multiple times, it means yeah,
I need that and I want that. And I've fallen

(38:03):
victims to that where I just snap right through and
buy it. But a lot of times I'll do the
brows and I'll leave something in my cart. And sometimes
what I'll do is, especially if I'm comparing between a
few items, I'll just save them all in my cart
and then kind of go through and delete, delete, delete.

Speaker 2 (38:21):
Do you do that. I actually like to leave stuff
around because then you'll see I think it's cheaper.

Speaker 5 (38:27):
Oh yeah, that's true too. There's some isn't there like
a I'm sure there's like a web extension. They'll do
some of that work for you.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
Yeah. Probably, I don't have the time for that.

Speaker 5 (38:40):
Rent or buy a less house and car than you
can afford. This person says, saved them they're partner hundreds
of thousands of dollars over the years.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
Oh okay, yeah, we didn't know about doing that.

Speaker 5 (38:50):
Well that would make I mean that just that just
makes common sense. But I think fascinating. Probably it's it's
being mentioned here because most people do the op is
that they know what they can kind of before and
they're like, well, this house is great, you know, we'll
just pay the little bit extra for it. Or those
people who and these people are sort of ridiculous, they'll

(39:12):
have like a really really kind of they'll skimp on
buying their house and stuff, and then they'll have like
a Ferrari in the driveway. It's like, your priority is
having this car over having a decent place to live.
I guess this guy says, I bought the cheapest twenty

(39:32):
thirteen Prius when gas prices where skyrocketing gets between sixty
and sixty miles per gallon on his daily sixty mile commute.
That's handy. Using the library, or the library as some
people will call it, which I admit, I buy it

(39:53):
like a ton of books because because it's so convenient,
I'll be just sitting on my kindle. And then of
course it's stuff that's related to stuff I've read, and
I'm like, oh, yeah, okay, I'll get that. Get a
sample of it. And the sample is like the drug
dealers kind of first hit. It gives you the taste
of it, and you're like, I now I have to
finish reading just a taste. That's all it takes. A

(40:16):
being semi vegetarian.

Speaker 2 (40:19):
Oh I realized that was an option.

Speaker 5 (40:21):
Yes, semi vegetarian. Well, he says, I found if I
bought more veggies and just bought smaller portions of better
quality meat, could not only eat better but also lose weight.
Huh uh. This one's a contentious one because there's that
who's the lady h who says it talks about just
don't get that one Starbucks latte a day, and you

(40:44):
can save tons and tons of money.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
So that the idea that that the youth are just
irresponsible with their money and that's why they can't afford
a house.

Speaker 5 (40:52):
Well, that was the that one's been around for a
long time, I know, was like Susie Orman, is she
she one of those ladies of them? But someone came
up with this idea that, well, you're spending you know,
five six dollars on a latte a day. Imagine if
you didn't pay that, Imagine the savings. And so these
people say, oh, we never pay for coffee that we

(41:13):
haven't brewed ourselves at home. We use excellent costco coffee
beans that we grind ourselves.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Oh, excellent costco beans. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (41:20):
In in my life, I live alone, go out to
save for my dog. And it's not just the idea
of like having the coffee, it's getting out of my house,
going and hanging out of the coffee place. They all
they know my orders sometimes, now, this is how well
they know. Sometimes they'll see me across the street at

(41:44):
the stoplight, waiting to go across the street to the
coffee shop, and they've already got halfway through making my
coffee sometimes because there's an advanced green for the other side.
By the time I get in there, they've already made
my fancy latte and it's on the counter.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
Yeah. I used to have a relationship with a Starbucks
that was that sophisticated.

Speaker 5 (42:03):
Now this is not a Starbucks that will say well.

Speaker 2 (42:04):
Whatever, I'm just saying it was. The relationship was with
the baristas. Actually, yeah, so you know, I would just
I was standing in line with my brother in law
one day and the guy saw me and you know,
he raised his eye brought me. I was like, I nodded.
He just like made my coffee and handed it to me,
and my brother in law was like, did you order
with an app? I was like, no, just a head nod.

Speaker 5 (42:22):
Yeah, yeah, that's they know my exact order.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
It's like, and we're we're on good term. So you know,
I kind of like jump the line. I don't have
to really wait.

Speaker 5 (42:31):
Well, I figured out a system. Most of the time,
I don't mind like going in there and kind of
hanging out and waiting for the coffee. But for example, today,
because I you know, want to get out of bed,
I don't want to spend a lot of time waiting
between getting up here to do the show. They have
the Ritual app, which is kind of an order in
advance app. So I'll put the order through there and

(42:54):
say hey, it's Josh in the in the comment line.
Then they'll cancel it because it costs more to Ritual
and I've already prepaid and they'll have my order ready
when I get there, and yeah, so it's good. And
at one time I even like h I. I was
in the coffee shop once and this this drugged guy
came in and I kind of I was standing up

(43:15):
at the counter waiting for my coffee and I kind
of saw him out of the corn in my eyes said,
I don't know what's going on here.

Speaker 2 (43:21):
This gentleman was on drugs or something.

Speaker 5 (43:23):
Well, this guy who came in, he you know, he
had sores and stuff. He was addicted and yeah, maybe
like sort of ready and he came beside me. He
went by me, and I was like, I don't know,
he's just gonna like maybe he's going to use the
washroom or something. And then he grabbed the tip.

Speaker 2 (43:37):
The tip I.

Speaker 5 (43:40):
Was between him and the door, and uh so I
managed to block him and tell him to put the
tists back. And I didn't get stabbed, thankfully, And then
I didn't.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Get like he just wanted to put the tip jar.

Speaker 5 (43:55):
Back as I put it back, put hard work.

Speaker 2 (43:58):
This is my neighborhood.

Speaker 5 (44:00):
Well, I just felt because I know the baristas so well,
there's only for.

Speaker 2 (44:03):
You to not act in that moment would be an
act of you would not be in solidarity with them.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
You know.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:09):
Yeah, so I stopped him and then.

Speaker 2 (44:12):
For you, Yeah, I mean it's good to say your
mom mannered individual, but you know you'll use your size
at times for the forces of good. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:20):
Well, yeah, it's good to have them kind of moment.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
But man, I feel like that, you know, a certain
dudes of a certain size have a responsibility to the
community to uh, to get away, to keep things straight
and narrow at a certain level. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (44:33):
Yeah, so we got most of the money back, and
yeah he took off, But it really is like there's
it's a small coffee shop, so there's one barista who's
there Monday to Friday, and then one who's there on
the weekend, so you get to know them and the
other clients hell pretty well. So yeah, uh, as any
other of these crazy tips. Uh well, this one i've

(44:56):
i've I think it's good. This is similar to the
shoe thing. By the high quality version of the thing,
and take good care of it, because when you buy
the crappy version of something you're ending up, you're going
to replace it many more times than the if you
get a good version.

Speaker 2 (45:11):
Uh yeah, that's becoming increasingly difficult to locate, just on
a general principle, what.

Speaker 5 (45:21):
Quality stuff, Yeah, yes, yeah, well.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
They've decided that profits are in like making us buy
it four hundred times over.

Speaker 5 (45:29):
Well even like you look at it, especially for major
appliances they used to make.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Oh brother, I just had a whole episode last weekend
was spent in search of a refrigerator. You know, I mean,
like because the refrigerator gave up after five years.

Speaker 5 (45:41):
Yeah, but if you if you bought a refrigerator in
the eighties or this be running it twenty five years later,
it's still still.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
You couldn't service it because the freon that they use
is now no longer illegal.

Speaker 5 (45:54):
Yeah it's deadly, but you.

Speaker 2 (45:56):
Don't but it doesn't leak because it was well made. Right,
although their energy inefficient in comparison to a modern one,
But I mean, like, you know, all these little quirks
and then like now I'm out another seventeen hundred dollars.

Speaker 5 (46:08):
Now, yeah, I just try. My general thing is I
not just with appliances but things in general. I just
trying to just not buy a lot of crap, Like
I'd rather spend my money on like having a meal
or experiences or traveling or yes, but though what I do,
I do, Like when I do purchase something, I do
try and get something that's of value. Like last year

(46:31):
I got a new television, and I didn't want to
scrimp because the technology changes so fast, so I want
to get like to that point whatever was sort of
the most sort of technologically advanced, although I did get
it on sale, so I mean sort of halfway halfway
thing there, technology stuff this and now this seems obvious,

(46:58):
but I know, parents, I had a lot of trouble
with that, especially my sister. Kids are on the phone
all the time. Cutting kids screen time to just three
and this is impossible. Cutting kids screen time to just
three hours per week can result in significant improvements to
their mental health and behavior in as little as two weeks,
of course, scoring a new study eighty nine families with

(47:21):
one hundred and eighty one children between four and seventeen.
After fourteen days of a reduced screen time regimen, researchers
found that these children experienced a decrease in behavioral difficulties
equivalent to moving from the borderline category to the normal category.
Says that even a brief period of reduced screen time
can have a measurable measurable benefits for children's mental health.

(47:46):
Research point out that the three hour limit applies specifically
to leisure screen time. It doesn't include use for school
or homework. I will say, though, it's hard for me
to tell the kids or the nephews to get off
the phone because I realize when I'm telling them that,
I'm like, yeah, I'm actually doing the same thing, Like

(48:08):
I want to hear way more.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Oh yeah, we're all hooked. But at the same time,
you know, you have a you know, the gen X
brain that's got fifteen minutes of attention span because that
was the amount of time between commercials, right, and so
then their attention span is going to be like three seconds.
Well yeah, because of the TikTok is just got that scroll.
This is this doesn't appeal.

Speaker 5 (48:31):
Artificial intelligence requires so much more power. It's straining the
electrical grid in a lot of areas.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
I've seen stuff on this.

Speaker 5 (48:41):
Yeah, well I remember seeing the last time I saw
it was with cryptocurrency, where which is like that that scam?
Is it the mining of that which I still do
not understand, the like the like it's hard to me
to fathom what goes on. But the idea that so
these these pyramid schemers can can make money off these

(49:04):
crypto rubes.

Speaker 2 (49:05):
Yeah, I mean, like there's an article I don't know
what publication, but you know Grandburry, Texas south of Port Worth.
You know they're out there, people with headaches andrologia because
of the constant hum of this crypto mining facility that's
like the size of I don't know, it's maybe an acre.

Speaker 5 (49:25):
I read that same article. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's just
just and it's just for what like this, like it's
for like creating nothing but using all those electros.

Speaker 2 (49:35):
It's just yeah, I mean it's not nothing because it's like, oh,
this this blockchain technology is going to save the world
because we'll be able to everything will be verifiable.

Speaker 5 (49:44):
Well now it's now AI is eating a ton of electricity.
AI queries require about ten times the electricity of a
traditional Google.

Speaker 2 (49:54):
But that makes sense too, because a has got to
sit there and churn out an answer. Yeah, so why
wouldn't it take more electriccy It has to think, It
has to actually do some thinking to go on the
Internet and scrape some stuff and then give you something
that was probably copyrighted.

Speaker 5 (50:08):
And that's just a search. So imagine now the electrocity
and stuff to actually create well recreate audio and video stuff.
Needs of AI are requiring energy companies to recalibrate their
future projections, even explore previously unheard of options, such as
restarting a nuclear reactor at the Three Mile Island Power Plant,

(50:32):
which has been dormance in nineteen seventy nine. Does the
news get better? I did you see? It felt like
it should have been out a long time ago. But
there's a documentary within the last like four or five
years about the whole three Mile Island thing, and it's
really scary.

Speaker 3 (50:48):
Man.

Speaker 2 (50:49):
Yeah. I showed that to my kid. It was, you
know once because I showed a Chernobyl you know, the HBO.

Speaker 5 (50:57):
Oh that that was a phenomenal series.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
Was it was so intense and so disturbing.

Speaker 5 (51:04):
Disturbing and frustrating because you can't like this has happened. Well,
it's happened, but at the time, like people like.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
The part of the fact that that one party apparatus
was in denial was the most horrifying part of the
whole thing. Yeah, and then like eventually they get somebody
who knows what they're talking about on the scene and
it's like, no, no, no, it's four thousand times more
powerful than abated.

Speaker 5 (51:29):
Yeah. Yeah, really insane, and part of it, it feels
like that, like the microcosm of that is the the
guy the mayor in Jaws. Yeah, I just want to
keep the beach open. Yeah, we don know nothing, nothing's
really wrong, you.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
Know, just didn't even think about the mayor in Jaws.
I've only seen that movie once and I was very young.

Speaker 5 (51:47):
But yeah, oh my god, Okay, we'll see it again
and see what he did.

Speaker 2 (51:51):
I don't want to see it.

Speaker 5 (51:53):
It's one of the best.

Speaker 2 (51:54):
I don't want to see a politician in denial of reality,
Like that's one of the most disturbed.

Speaker 5 (52:00):
He's not so much denying reality as he's willing to
sacrifice a few swimmers.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
For the but can't get down.

Speaker 5 (52:08):
See with your kid, because US adults shouldn't be the
only ones that have fear of sharks being in any
body of watch.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Well there down, Shark attacks are actually more of a
threat than they were in nineteen seventy seven or whatever.

Speaker 5 (52:19):
It's definitely picked up. Yeah, you see it all the time. Well,
because the warm waters are creeping north and there's more
and more sharks in the Yeah, everything's turning to crap.
If there's a message we can we can transmit from
this show, is everything's turning.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
To crap, creeping crap. Watch out for that, look out
for that crap that's going on.

Speaker 5 (52:40):
All right, Well, we'll share more crap with you a weekends,
and you're gonna be on vacation, so I may have
to like blab even more. It's a scary thought. All right, love,
see ya.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
The show is over.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
Lessons were learned, but the conversation continues are open twenty
four hours a day, seven days a week.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
Okay, Well, thanks for calling.

Speaker 1 (53:04):
Three hundred and sixty five days here Donald six four
seven six Yo, Josh at leave your message, gott learnnginas
send a text instead. We're on the web at Josh
holidaylive dot com. Miss An episode download fast shows from
better podcast platforms everywhere. Need to send an angry manifesto
to the manager. Email Josh at Josh Holiday dot com.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
That's show, it's over.

Speaker 2 (53:26):
Okay, we're all down now. This show is over. See
you see you next time.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
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