NEWSTALK SAUGA960 NOVEMBER 16, 2024

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Live from Toronto to the world that this is Josh
Holiday Live. Josh is like a snoop talker. Josh is
the same level as me.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Like his vibe is just like strong and masculine and tough.
Talked at rocks, got something to say, what you had
to say. The phone lines are now open, Kyle six
four seven six yo. Josh operators are standing by. Brace yourself.
Josh Holiday Live starts. No good day to you.

Speaker 3 (00:38):
Hello. It is November sixteenth, already halfway through November, very
very frightening. My name is Joshi of the show title
joint is always by bird from the woods, Yes, the
woods in New Jersey, in the land under siege. I

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once a year I have to get a needle, well
more than once now because I also do now. I'm
I'm pro vax as most intelligent people are.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
And I people who know how vaccines work.

Speaker 3 (01:14):
Yeah, people who are are, Yeah exactly. People know that
they are actually a miracle of science.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
Don't know how they work. Maybe it's up in the air,
but you don't even.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Have to know how how they work. It's just a
miracle of science that's gonna gonna prevent you forget.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
It's not a miracle. That's the whole thing. Really, it's
not a miracle, all right. It is an established, reliable
technology that we are.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
It's a wonder. How about that. Yeah, it's a wonder.
It's like a vaccine. It's amazing. Yeah. Maybe it's maybe
using terms we used to.

Speaker 4 (01:46):
If we gave it the man's name on it again,
maybe then people would trust it.

Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah. But I get a physical every year. Did that
got the the finger lubed finger them?

Speaker 4 (02:01):
H and yeah? He says, good morning everyone.

Speaker 3 (02:03):
Yeah, he said, uh, A little little bit like normally
it was. My prosery is normal, he says, a little
bit in large, just a little bit though for my agents,
he says, it's normal. Enjoy that had to set up
my my blood work, which I'm a needle fobe, like
an extreme needleful. I don't like it at all. I
at the very least have to be lying down, and

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I have a forgetting blood drawn. I have an elaborate
routine so too. So I know they tap just inside
the elbow and that little crook there. So about forty
five minutes before the appointment, I put numbing cream there
and then I.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
Go, how long does it take the numbing cream to
kick in.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
Like about a half hour, but like it'll last for
a little I'll put it a second coat later on,
just to make sure. And then when I'm when I'm
in the waiting room of the place, I bring along
a little ice bag, so I'm freezing with actual ice
that area of my arm.

Speaker 4 (03:00):
And how does that impact the vein? Is it to
suppress it, shrink it?

Speaker 3 (03:08):
They've never seemed to have a problem with that with
that yet. So this time I went. There's a there's
a company called Life Labs here in Toronto. They have
a bunch of different locations. This is where you get
your lab work done, You get your your ECGs, your bloods,
your urines, all that stuff. And the location I normally

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go to is where I set up an appointment. And
then when I got there, there's a sign on the
door of this building that apparently is no longer being
used at all. It's it's set for destruction. That they've moved.
And they gave the new location, and I thought it
was west. I went a bunch of blocks west and
then I realized I went the wrong direction, and so

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I go into this building, the new building they're in
up on the fifth floor of this office building. And
I opened the door and it's basically like, uh, like,
there's no walls. It's just basically a barren space that's
like an office space that's been ripped apart like this.
It's just bare bones cement floor, cement walls. They've got

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little dividers up for where you go and get your
blood taken normally. And they didn't really they they apparently,
like I found out later, that this is a temporary
setup while they actually build their office their offices downstairs.

Speaker 4 (04:30):
But are dust while we remodel one of those.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
Kind of yeah. And they had like just you know,
plastic chairs along the walls for you to wait, and
I told them I have to lie down, and they
pointed out that the stretcher, which is just basically out
in the open against a wall, like they hadn't put
it in any special area and I and I thought, yeah,
people are just gonna walk by see me lying down
like a baby.

Speaker 2 (04:55):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:56):
Well, and then and then I noticed that there's another
stretcher just just next to that, behind some boxes, kind
of like a wall of boxes. So I moved some
boxes out of the way and said, let me get
it done. On this table, and so she had to
kind of sneak behind these boxes to pull my blood
while I laid down there.

Speaker 4 (05:13):
So they did they wheel you down a hall? Did
they show up with a needle? Undo the word?

Speaker 3 (05:17):
No, She just it was these things are stationary. I
think they were eventually probably going to move them into
an area where they're private, but this one was behind
some storage boxes. And then so the blood didn't go
too bad. Least you put the whole like on my chest,
like the little kit on my chest, but I had
my eyes closed. It wasn't it wasn't a biggie. I
was also supposed to get an ECG at this location.

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They're like, well, yeah, we don't. We don't have vcg's.
We're sort of temporary here. So the whole purpose of
going to this place is get everything done at once.
So I had to postpone that. And then at the
old place, when you go to fill the little it's
basically like a film canister that you feel with urine.

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They they gave me two of them, and normally in
their in their bathroom at the old office, there was
at least a toilet tank, if not a shelf. I
remember being able to actually put it on something.

Speaker 1 (06:15):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
And in this case, it's just like some office building
where other offices and stuff have to go into the bathroom.
And so I went in the stall with these two
sealed containers. They put a little sticker on to the
seal it before you open it up. I put one
of them on the toilet paper dispenser, and then I

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put my thing right in the like basically right inside,
so I'm not spilling anything. And I realized part way through,
I don't know like how full it has to be,
Like I'm not going to have enough to fill these
two things properly. So I get a good amount in
this one tube. And then I realize I've got this
in one hand, I've got like trying to hold my

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wiener from being in the other hand because I want to.
And so I would go to put it on the
toilet paper dispenser and I pick up the other thing,
and it kind of the first one kind of falls
starts falling down. It splashes all over the floor and
all over the toilet dispenser. Man, and it didn't get
my shoes, thankfully.

Speaker 4 (07:16):
I think it would be a sturdy surface to set
down a cup of peons.

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Well, it looked like I guess it was flat in
the middle but kind of rounded on the edges, and
I guess it caught an edge. But luckily though, I
caught it in midair, so only about you know, a
good splash went out, but not the whole thing. And
then I feeled the other one. And then when I
went back to the fridge, it says thirty mili leads
and I managed to hit.

Speaker 4 (07:40):
That on both, so thank goodness, you hit the mark.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
And then then I went to another location of this place,
this life Labs like it like a whole other location.
And I get in the afternoon, I go in there,
and as soon as I get in there, it's the
same lady that took my blood at the other location.
So she she's she was in for a I don't know,
like she somehow, like somehow went from the other location

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of this location in the same time.

Speaker 4 (08:07):
Why did they are you know, this is like a
doppelganger thing and they all just blend.

Speaker 3 (08:11):
They all look the same. No, it was I'm usually
bad with that stuff. Where but I said, I said
to her though, I said, oh.

Speaker 4 (08:18):
You mean recognizing faces?

Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, I said, didn't I see you yeah, so it was.
Uh so, anyway, that's all done. Thankfully.

Speaker 4 (08:28):
I had allergy shots as a young child, you know,
six years old time frame, so really any needle phobia
was just going to be drilled out once a week.
Boom boom. You know, it's just I.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
Just do they when they test for allergies, don't they
put like a grid on your stomach and then just
poke a bunch of needles in there.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
They're doing it on the arm in those days. But yeah,
it's not a grid. It's like we'll take a a
a tray of syringes with irritants in them and inject
them under the skin one at a time and then
in thirty minutes measure the reaction or so okay, and
the three reaction is you know, one size or another.

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You you know, that's a score and then maybe you're allergic
and maybe you're not.

Speaker 3 (09:12):
One of That's one of the things I think that
that makes me health conscious and try it. It makes
me try not to get too unhealthy. Is my fear
is if I get diabetes, I'll have to like have
needles all the time, and so I'm trying to avoid that.
And then I'm also worry about my my, uh, kidneys,

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because I don't want to have.

Speaker 4 (09:34):
Like either path you're on in diabetes involves it because
it's like, yeah, maybe you get biomet form and but
you know, you might be checking your blood sugar with
a little fingerstick, or you're on ozembic, which is also injected.
But maybe that's one of these days.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
I think that a pill is in the work. Not
that I'm like yeah at that station, but the other one,
like they worry about the kidneys. Where you go, is
it the dialysis machine? Is that for kidneys or is
that for oh that that's probably the biggest nightmare, is
like having to sit down and watch my blood cycle
in and out all.

Speaker 4 (10:06):
Kind of I mean, good morning Canada, all right.

Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah, just medical talk. Anyway, that's done. Done for a year.
I got to get my flu shot and I had
I had COVID in late August, and my plan was
to wait three months and get the new COVID shot,
but my doctor said it's not really going to be
that effective three months in. You probably want to wait

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like four or five months because then you'll it'll give
you full protection.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
So, yeah, you probably had the more recent strain I did.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
Yeah, my plan initially is just to kind of kill
two birds with one stone and do the flu in
vax and then I just do the whole you know,
a routine where I put the stuff in my arms
and but now.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
I was just going to get them the same day,
but I did. I did them about four days apart,
just because I expected the COVID shot Weld give me
it'll fit and then you know, the next day I
had a headache. But it wasn't like the first the
first booster, you know, the second pizer shot was quite
undertake a full day in bed.

Speaker 3 (11:10):
Well, I will say that whatever version I had, like
one of the newer versions, it was nasty, like. It
wasn't just two days of like really.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Like me covid. Yes, yeah, you know people I see
people you know in my in my world that are
you know, succumbing and it doesn't it's still not to
be taken lightly.

Speaker 3 (11:28):
No, it's a it's a it's a nasty one. So
your your headache for a little while on one day,
well worth it for not having that the rest of
the stuff. Do you see Conan O'Brien's going to host
the Oscars.

Speaker 4 (11:42):
I did not, but what an excellent choice.

Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah, he seems to be like friends of everybody now.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
Well, also like he's a guy who won't screw up
and think he won't he'll he'll strike the right tone
and he won't think he's in the wrong place. Yeah,
I think it's recently. Sometimes the host doesn't know where
they are.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yeah. Well, in a lot of times they they they
really really try to get someone who who has been
in movies, who is part of the movie industry.

Speaker 4 (12:14):
Seems like they've been going for comedians. I mean, you know,
Carson hosted it, Carson did was a little kid, did
Billy that did not go well? Billy Crystal for many
years that he was a stole wart. Yeah, he was
the best of all time. Probably.

Speaker 3 (12:30):
I think Conan is yeah, a great choice. Although I
find just in general the oscars are kind of a
PVR event because there's so much.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
This is too much, it's too long, and I just
don't really watch that many movies and I kind of
don't care.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Well, And you'll see the highlights of if anything interesting happens,
that's right, trickle down, see Tim in a highlight reel.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
It's the only way trickle down really works. Staring out
live in the Oscars. The stuff will trickle down through social.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Media to me Golden Globes as well.

Speaker 4 (12:58):
Same, don't I think giving awards for art is it's
it doesn't make sense to me. Yes, I mean I
understand why people do it. I guess it makes sense,
but I just don't. I don't need it. It doesn't
it's hard to quantify. Yeah, at some point, about twenty
years ago, TV Land came along as a network and
said that they needed to have an award show, and
so they did, and then it was an award show

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for old shows that had previously, of course been candidates
for Emmys or anything else. It's like, why this is
a second chance rerun awards.

Speaker 3 (13:34):
It's yeah, it's like giving movie were awarding movies from
the nineteen forties. It's the nineteen forties celebration.

Speaker 4 (13:41):
Right, We're going back and we're going to revisit these things.

Speaker 3 (13:45):
I have mostly on my socials eliminated people who tend
to lean towards the uh, the Trump and the and
the and the mosque, like the right wing type people.
But I still there's still a couple of guys like
this one guy who is an old radio guy and

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prior to the election, he would post kind of stuff
in the in in a manner of like, guys, what
do you think of this? And he posts something kind
of right winging as if he's sort of not attached
to but distant from, hey, guys, And and in the comments,
most of the sensible.

Speaker 4 (14:24):
People he's just questioning things.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Yeah, most of the sensible people would would like rebutt
it in the comments. And then recently after the Trump thing,
he's posting a lot of like Elon must Joe Rogan
stuff and and uh, you go to call him out
on it, and and and then another radio guy pipes up,
and you can't. You can't really argue with these guys
because they they they aren't willing to kind of look

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at at facts. Hell yeah, you can't. It's it's it's
almost impossible.

Speaker 4 (14:51):
To break before they have to make a real point.

Speaker 1 (14:54):
Well.

Speaker 3 (14:54):
The other thing too, is is like like after a while,
like I'm like, why the why am I just like
adding my time typing this stuff to try and like
like give this one specific person the facts.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
Like it's just I do it. I do the thing
where I type it, and then I just to delete
it and walk away. But I'll type you know, paragraphs,
and then I'm just like, no, I'm not gonna do it.

Speaker 3 (15:14):
Yeah, I've got to get in the habit of just
just like just ignore it, like if he wants something to.

Speaker 4 (15:19):
The exercise of coming up with this wonderful, elaborate argument,
and then I'm just like, I can't. I can't engage
these people. And oftentimes it's not it's on someone else,
it's on a third person.

Speaker 3 (15:29):
It's on that, Yeah, someone else's timeline.

Speaker 4 (15:31):
Yeah, it's not on even the person who I want
to comment on is like not the main owner of
this space, right exactly.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
But I if they want to live in their own
like like ignorance sighty, who am I.

Speaker 4 (15:44):
To When that happens, I often message the host and
I'm like, I'm almost gonna post on your space, and
they're just like, go for it, and I'm like, I don't
really want to do it.

Speaker 3 (15:54):
You never had Twitter, did you? No?

Speaker 4 (15:57):
No, I don't, I mean, I'll I I'm I'm just
a spaceholder on Twitter. I don't use it and I
don't know how to use it.

Speaker 3 (16:03):
I used it to follow a lot of like a
lot of like reporters and news people, and.

Speaker 4 (16:10):
It used to be good for that it was.

Speaker 3 (16:11):
It was yeah, and I've been meaning to you for
a while and finally I deleted it, and uh, threads
is okay. But I found blue Sky is actually not
too bad in replicating what Twitter used to be.

Speaker 4 (16:27):
I'm hearing did things about blue Sky. People were talking
it up. Maybe I need to get on it.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
Not a lot of people pushing crypto, not a lot
of nazism, white nationalism, not a lot of trolls.

Speaker 4 (16:37):
I mean when you saw Elon took over the next
day that people just were getting the M word back at, like, yeah,
I missed it so much.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeah, and it's hard because and then it's just devolved
and devolved like it like there was. Essentially you'd see
a good point by someone and then you think, oh,
let's see what people are talking about the replies, And
then the first like twenty replies were people who pay
to be on Twitter, and it's all like nonsense and
hate and just garbage.

Speaker 4 (17:04):
Yeah, that's brutal. Yeah, I never had never had never
appealed to me. Other formats are better. And I don't
even really like threads. I kind of want to delete
that because it's too invasive.

Speaker 3 (17:15):
Try try blue Sky and see because there's a lot
of resistance types on there, like a lot of journalists,
and I like that.

Speaker 4 (17:23):
I like them resistance types.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
And I was thinking, like a lot of people think
Elon Musk spent forty four billion on Twitter and he
tore to the ground and devalued it. But if you
actually think about it in terms of an investment, that
forty four billion dollars he spent on Twitter has made
him many, many, many more billions now that he's he's

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affiliated and with Trump.

Speaker 4 (17:51):
Well, I mean he was always he was already a
government contractor, which is unstable space for his global globe trotting,
you know, affiliations that we're discovering here of late. But yeah,
I don't I'm not a fan.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
No. Well, and and I think he was in a
similar situation where I had Kamala Harris been elected, his
legal problems would have started coming to the forefront.

Speaker 4 (18:20):
I guess, yeah, I guess he was actually going to
face some scrutiny.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
In his contracts and his uh, his ties to Russia.
I thought this was interesting but not unsurprising. Three quarters
of Americans apparently are overweight or obese.

Speaker 4 (18:39):
There you go, We're going to get on the Olympic train.

Speaker 3 (18:45):
I'm surprised it feels like two. For a long time,
people have always been like, oh, I don't want exercise,
if only there was a pill to help with my weight,
and now there is.

Speaker 4 (18:55):
I's got some sound effects though, friends, So yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
And I think a lot of it like it's face
stuff and yeah, it's not, it's not.

Speaker 4 (19:05):
That's that's the loose skin from the people that used
to be.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Is that what it is? But I people keep talking
about like.

Speaker 4 (19:11):
There's some reactive hypoglycemia that can happen. There's uh, stomach
issues with the stomach, the digestion slowing down and they're
being like paralysis types of scenario. So that's a that's
in very limited cases. But you know, yeah there's some
there's side of it. I mean, yeah, you just go
read about the side of it, you know, that's what

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the thing is. You got to go read people's actual
experiences that. But I mean, you know, probably for most
of your people who are diabetic or borderline, it's going
to help more than it harms.

Speaker 3 (19:45):
Yeah, especially for like morbidly obese people.

Speaker 4 (19:48):
It's kind of like like, I mean three quarters of
us are I mean I over but when you say overweight,
Well that's the thing, yeah, says Wait, but am I
I'm not obese?

Speaker 3 (19:58):
Yeah, I would like them to break it down because, yeah, overwet,
like I probably overweighed too. And even though I'm like, pretty.

Speaker 4 (20:05):
Well, what percentage Canadians are overweight or obese? You know, half,
I think it's probably less, like I think Eastern world
is overweight. But except what may be just the Western
world I live in.

Speaker 3 (20:17):
I don't see up here as many like morbidly obese people.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
That's that's so obvious. But people who are a little overweight,
Like people would not look at me and be like, oh,
he's overweight. They would think I look at like normally,
but I'm not. I'm probably you know, thirty pounds, you know,
a little too heavy.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
I would like to be about ten pounds less to you.
But yeah, did you see?

Speaker 1 (20:40):
Now?

Speaker 3 (20:40):
This is I thought this was interesting. In Once Donald
Trump was elected, Putin's media put out naked pictures and
and and scantily cloud pictures of millennia.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Is going on? He said, you did you see what
he said about it, which was like or another. The
Russian spokesman was on TV and said something about Trump
using certain forces to win.

Speaker 3 (21:06):
Yeah, you feel that. Yeah, Well, basically it's like, okay,
we did something for you, now it's time for you
to do something for us that way.

Speaker 4 (21:14):
And it's like here's a troll with the naked pictures
of your lady.

Speaker 3 (21:18):
Yeah, that's sort of like the threat, like okay, you know,
we're releasing this, but if you if you screw us,
we're we have a lot more compromise.

Speaker 4 (21:26):
On you that they do.

Speaker 3 (21:28):
Yeah, it's frightening. And then the then the weird kind
of meeting with Biden and his wife. It's like pretending.
It's just having to pretend that everything's normal and everything's okay.

Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yeah, I mean the media normalizes him and says, you know,
he's just another you know, it's just oh, well, just's
so unfair, this law fair and this blah blah blah.
You know, I mean, not just Fox, but you you know,
just even the mainstream media seems to just like treat
it like everything's fine. And so a lot of people
here like well, why is it so imbalanced and why
is this this way? And I'm like, well, they tried

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to overthrow the government.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Yeah yeah, people, well even in the debate, they only
fact check Trump, Well, he told he was Yeah, he
was telling huge, huge lies and yeah, and the same
thing during the election, like like there were Biden's like
like getting seen Biden's old and then once Biden dropped out,

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no mention of Trump's senility or or his inability to
put coherent thoughts together.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
And he has branded mental decline. That's why he's got
to weave. Okay, Joe Biden just couldn't put the right
spin on it.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Wrong branding. Uh. And it's funny how now that the
election is over, like I haven't seen any even small
piece of news about jd Vance, Like he's kind of
faded into the background.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
My theory is gonna be bad news.

Speaker 3 (22:57):
I think he's I think he's sort of biding his
time until either Trump decides to leave or the twenty four.

Speaker 4 (23:05):
I mean, there's people saying he's going to be a
powerful vice president in the mold of Dick Cheney, and
I mean, I guess, but.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
I don't think Trump is long for this world, like
he's he's really like mentally, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
These these old old old salty cusses seem to live
a long time. But if you're so the evil one
seemed to live longer.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah, that's true. It's hard to kill a cockroach.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
So that said, all of that said, there were people
who are like, well, you know, there'll be some people,
there'll be guardrails and and you know, I'm sure he'll
pick some some like reasonable, reasonable people to run his government.

Speaker 1 (23:47):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Sadly, Uh, it was almost the exact opposite any any
any post you could possibly think of in his government.
He found the worst possible person to fill it. And
we'll go over some of those. Uh uh. I don't
want to say jokes. Some of those is laughable. Is
not laughable, it's cryable picks because it's so so bad.

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We'll talk about that in just a moment.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
Sex, money, dating, health, hockey, science, burritos. If there's something
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Speaker 1 (24:22):
We'll do it live. Do it live.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
I can go all write it and we'll do it live.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Something else your brain, Josh.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
You're sleep in a dumpster last night, tell.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
Us now at six four seven six yo, Josh, call
or text talk the Rocks. Josh Halliday is live and
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Speaker 3 (24:45):
Yes, we are here. Usually I just keep talking over
that songment. I'm Josh bird is here from New Jersey. Yes,
woods of nude. Uh, And we are talking about something
very much relevant to where you are.

Speaker 4 (25:10):
The new cool government taking shape before our very eyes.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yes, and people thought, I don't know who did, but
but it felt like, Okay, you know, Trump's going to
put some people in there that are are not great people,
Like we knew it was going to be kind of like.

Speaker 4 (25:30):
Not a bunch of loyalists and corrupt people who are incompetent.
That's what I expected.

Speaker 3 (25:36):
Yeah, but the even Trump has surprised with the sheer
level of incompetency and unfitness for office of these people
he wants to put in his government. And for a
lot of these a lot of the big roles. Typically
what happens is the Senate has to have a hearing

(26:00):
with these people and.

Speaker 4 (26:02):
This confirmation yeah guys and consent.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
So they put them in there and they air all
of their dirty laundry.

Speaker 4 (26:10):
And pointed questions.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Yeah, both sides get to ask. So it's it's definitely
exposes them.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (26:18):
And that's typically what happens. Trump had a plan that
he announced not long after he was elected that he
wanted his Senate head. What's that what's the Senate head called.
I'm just going to majority leader, Yeah, to be someone
who will just, on Trump's whim put Senate put the

(26:38):
Senate on a recess so he can make recess appointments.
And recess appointments essentially mean you don't have to have
any kind of hearings or anything like that. They just
PLoP them in the.

Speaker 4 (26:48):
Government with you know, half the government and recess appointments
during Trump years on the regular.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
Yeah. And they had an election for the House Speaker,
House leader, House leader.

Speaker 4 (27:03):
Right, they had elected for the majority leader.

Speaker 3 (27:06):
Of the majority leader of this. Yeah, and Rick Scott
was the preferred candidate for Trump and for a JD
and all the magaminions, but he wasn't elected. So maybe
maybe not as.

Speaker 4 (27:20):
Extreme majority leader as John Thunne, who it's suspected that
he will not take kindly to things like tariffs because
he's from a farm state and he's an advocate for
the farmers, and he may or may not be interested
by the same token in mass importations because that's where

(27:40):
a lot of the farm labor comes from, is immigrant labor.

Speaker 3 (27:44):
So there may be a tiny check check slash balance
in having him in that position. And it might also
mean that he won't cow to Trump's demand that they
go on recess anytime he asks. But I did see
something this week that was a little bit scary in

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that there's some wording somewhere in the Constitution that allows
the president to decide that the Senate needs to take
a recess, and it's worded in such a way that
they would probably have to take it to court and
move it up the court systems where it would eventually
hit the Supreme Court, and then the decision for him

(28:26):
to be able to take recesses whenever he wants would
be up to a very right wing, very Trump friendly court,
So who knows what will happen with that. And then
I guess there's also the act he can do, the
thing where he makes people acting in their positions, like
the acting directly.

Speaker 4 (28:48):
That's what a recess appointment results in. Yeah, is everyone's
referred to as acting.

Speaker 3 (28:53):
Yeah. So, as I said, we thought he's going to
have people who are in competent and loyalists as part
of his cabinet, part of his government. But I don't
think anyone could have guessed like how incompetent, how bad
these choices could be even people on the right, people

(29:16):
who are Trump friendly are in awe in a bad
way of their choice.

Speaker 4 (29:23):
They are reacting strongly to the absurdity of some of
these choices.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
Ah. They they created a fictional department called government Efficiency
or something along those.

Speaker 4 (29:35):
Lines, the Department of Nothing, that.

Speaker 3 (29:38):
The two of the world's least likable people will head
up Elon Musk and Vivic Ramaswami Rama swarm Rama swarthy. No,
he's not swore the rama smart. That's a word that
would well described.

Speaker 4 (29:57):
And he's just that's what Trump would do if he
was on the other side. Call him smarmy, that's true.
Appropriate his name.

Speaker 3 (30:05):
Yeah, so are we sinking to those levels? Yes, we
don't know.

Speaker 4 (30:10):
Maybe we're all getting drawn in.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
Man.

Speaker 3 (30:12):
Well, I'm not gonna we don't even have to make
it a name. We can we can say legitimately he
is a smarmy guy, like if you've seen him in
any kind of debate or any kind of TV.

Speaker 4 (30:20):
Interview, very interested in power.

Speaker 3 (30:24):
Yeah, and just like I think if you went to
college or or school, you had one of these guys
around these like kind of know it all right. No, no,
that's not right, blah blah, blah blah. Anyway, they're in
charge of a sort of fictional department. But then you
get into the meat of the appointments, the ones that

(30:45):
are supposed to be sent and confirmed. The most recent
couple are really not great. Heading up health in the
in the Trump government is is uh one of the
Kennedys not the good one?

Speaker 1 (31:04):
Robert F.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
Kennedy Junior.

Speaker 3 (31:06):
Robert F.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
Kennedy Junior goes back and forth on being anti vacked.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
He hedges, Yeah, he certainly hedges.

Speaker 4 (31:14):
He goes back and forth. He can't you know, quite.
It just kind of depends on which the way the
wind is blown that day, on the weather or not.
It's like, well, he's got a problem with thymerosol. Okay,
we took the thymerosol out. Well, okay, now I have
a problem of backs in general. Okay, Well, you know,
I don't know. I mean, there are there there are
good things that he wants to do, Like if he

(31:34):
wants to get all the chemicals out of our food
and make it so that agriculture uses less pesticide, that
sounds great.

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, where do you stand on the getting fluoride out
of the water?

Speaker 4 (31:45):
That sounds like it will lead to mass infections.

Speaker 3 (31:48):
That's what happened when they did it in Alberta. The
dental community there was was shouting that then. Yeah, it
was insane.

Speaker 4 (31:58):
And again he's that would theoretically benefit financially from the
lack of fluoridation, are supporting floridation?

Speaker 3 (32:10):
Yeah, even there, even they're speaking out uh, and he's
he's not like, he's not a science guy, Like like
you're having, you're having someone who doesn't really follow science
in charge of a what is essentially a life and
death science department. Like if you don't do the right thing,
people will die. Like like it's it's not not just

(32:33):
a flippant kind of position.

Speaker 4 (32:36):
Guy that they had at HHS during Trump was, or
at least the one that started with it was alex
Azar who had just been an attorney in Florida.

Speaker 3 (32:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (32:47):
Also the you know, the the dubious honor of giving
Jeffrey Epstein a sweetheart deal.

Speaker 3 (32:54):
Yes, and he Yeah, all the people that Trump funneled
into to his response to the pandemic were ill qualified,
and a lot of a lot more people died than
needed to have have during the pandemic in the US
because of do it.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
The other way.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
Failed field policies and there were never really any kind
of any commission or anything to look into into all
the failures, which which was kind of a disappointment.

Speaker 4 (33:25):
It's like there's actually Asar was probably more qualified than
than Kennedy is, but we'll see how that goes.

Speaker 3 (33:33):
Yeah, well it's not just vaccines. He's like raw milk
he believes in and.

Speaker 4 (33:39):
Yeah, right, yeah, But basically, see, there was a huge
Amish contingent that registered to vote because the government had
raided them for having raw milk.

Speaker 3 (33:49):
I think it, but I think there was a little
controversy there where there's some like some Nutter that that
registered people who didn't know they were being registered, like
there was there's a guy who I think is in
trouble there for for yeah. So yeah, so Kennedy, basically
you have someone who's a science skeptic, a vaccine skeptic.

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So you wonder what when the next pandemic comes along,
what would happen with him in charge?

Speaker 4 (34:20):
And it's not good agency left, Yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (34:25):
Then the Attorney general this I think this is the
one that got the most pushback, even from from loyalists.

Speaker 4 (34:33):
Like the number of crazies that have been put up
in the in subsequent days. It's like this one kind
of took the cake, but only because it's so outrageous.

Speaker 3 (34:45):
Yeah, and that is Matt Gates, who was.

Speaker 4 (34:52):
Congressman, who is under investigation by his colleagues in the
US House Representatives for sex trafficking underage women girls.

Speaker 3 (35:04):
Yeah. And and I think there's some drug use and
showing showing inappropriate pictures and then like he.

Speaker 4 (35:10):
Was in the chamber of the House showing off pictures
of his exploits with young ladies.

Speaker 3 (35:16):
Yeah, not a good guy. They did try and uh
investigate him outside of like the actual law try to
investigate him. And I think there are problems with some
of the witnesses he hung out with being not it's he.

Speaker 4 (35:32):
This isn't gonna work. He will not get confirmed. The
entire hole, this whole investigation will leak, even if it
doesn't come out through the formal process.

Speaker 3 (35:43):
No, he will get leaked. It's already. I think a
lot of it's like like slowly leaking out. Even last night,
stuff was coming out. But I think I think, uh, yeah,
either way, it's going to come out. He even though
he resigned his seat, I think he was hoping that
oh I'm not I'm no longer in the Congress. They
can't do anything. It'll definitely leak, and if he has

(36:05):
to get confirmed, then all that information will come out
in the confirmation.

Speaker 4 (36:08):
Process that I can't even believe he would put himself
through that, but.

Speaker 3 (36:14):
At least, like I think, the one thing this does
is maybe to people who are paying attention, it might
make them realize that, wait a second, this is what
we voted for. This this insanity.

Speaker 4 (36:26):
The whole thing is the people who are paying attention
were not voting for Trump.

Speaker 3 (36:32):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (36:33):
The people who weren't paying attention are finding out things like, oh,
how did tariffs work?

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Yeah, well, after the election the search for terroiffts went
up like one thousand percent. It's like too late, too late.
And then after the election, and also a lot of
the people who are of Latin descent or his Latin
American descent realized that oh, he's not just gonna try

(36:58):
and deport the criminals or the undocument He's he's going
to try and to port all of us.

Speaker 4 (37:04):
Oopsie White is subject to get stop and frist and
then uh please.

Speaker 3 (37:11):
Then all the people who were pro Palestine, who are like, oh,
we don't like Biden's policies in the in in Israel
and the Gaza.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
It's going to get worse.

Speaker 3 (37:20):
Mike Hackabee, uh is the envoy to Israel and Mike
Hakkabee is very much on the side of n Yahoo and.

Speaker 4 (37:31):
A Christian Zionist.

Speaker 3 (37:33):
Yes, so the vote for Trump means that Gaza will
be wiped out.

Speaker 4 (37:42):
Yeah, and probably you know, he Marriam Maidelson paid him
one hundred million dollars so that he would annex o
Wes Bank or allow it to be you.

Speaker 3 (37:49):
Know, and may be able to put some Trump Trump
housing up there, Trump hotels. So yeah, Matt Gates as
the attorney general, that was a little bit crazy. Uh,
head up defense. Pete Hegsith, Who Pete Hegsath He's a yeah, exactly,
a guy who's from Fox News Weekend.

Speaker 4 (38:11):
He is a weekend morning show anchor.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
Now he did he did have some military service a
little bit, but he's never been in charge of anything
at all ever. He's also been investigated for some sexual misconduct.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
Uh, tattoos are concerning as well.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
Well.

Speaker 3 (38:31):
Yeah, he wasn't even allowed to be part of the
National Guard on January sixth because he had a tattoo
affiliated with white nationalism, white supremacy. So that's a little concerning.
And and if if you look at the words he's
spoken very much anti Islam, very very not a good man,

(38:53):
not a good person, especially to have is.

Speaker 4 (38:55):
Going to work either. No, I actually think Kennedy could
probably get Senate confirmation.

Speaker 3 (39:01):
I don't know, he's he's pretty cooky.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
Can do it. This is not going to work.

Speaker 3 (39:06):
Kennedy is just like there's all kinds of just the
weird stuff about the brain worm and the the is.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
I agree that there's too much of a cloud around him,
but that seems like a very reasonable choice compared to
these next two.

Speaker 3 (39:19):
Yeah, the other ones. Okay, well that's Pete Hegsith and
then this is this is like.

Speaker 4 (39:25):
The Gates and Hexith. Yeah, keep going.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
Just when you think he can't get crazier, Uh, Department
of a National Intelligence. He wants to put up someone
who is pretty well known for receiving most of her
campaign contributions through Russia. People have speculated that she is

(39:48):
working on behalf of Russia. Even even Elizabeth Warren said, yeah,
she's pretty much a Russian asset, and yeah she's a
Putin and she met with the leader of Syria, Like
she's she's basically cozing up to very bad people. And
Donald Trump wants to put her in charge of the

(40:09):
national intelligence, which.

Speaker 4 (40:11):
Is and this I think she probably can get confirmed.

Speaker 3 (40:16):
You think so, probably because I like, the US is
part of a group called Five Eyes, which is is
the intelligence agencies from a bunch of other large countries,
and I think they might cut out the US if
she were the head of intelligence.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
The thing about it is, though they probably were so reliant.
I don't know that they can really cut them out,
but you know, I don't know. It's a terrible choice,
of course, and uh yeah, it's just not encouraging.

Speaker 3 (40:49):
But it'd be essentially opening up all US intelligence, all
information to Russia, like like she's basically.

Speaker 4 (40:56):
Yeah, I mean yeah. One of those career people say
about that choice, you know, like what did They're working
their whole careers to to be essentially on top of
the world. Yeah, and to then like have Putin and
ge celebrating that this is the end of the US
dominated world order, which by which they mean we could

(41:17):
just start taking over more countries.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Well, and you wonder, like there's got to be like
in some of these departments, especially like intelligence, there's got
to be some sort of resistance knowing how bad things are.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
Until Schedule a F. You know what about Schedule a
F You know what that is. Yeah, Schedule came along
in October of twenty twenty, and that was a new
reorganization the executive branch where they can just fire all
the career people, like forty thousand people non loyalists. That
is part of Project twenty twenty five. And I expect
it to come back, and so the career people may
not matter.

Speaker 3 (41:48):
Yeah, it's it's scary. Well, even like even during Trump's
last administration, there was a kind of an unusual coincidence
where he met with some Russian people and in private
and without any kind of notes taken, and then not
long after that, a lot of undercover agents around the

(42:12):
world ended up being killed and people some people say
that the information that may have been any people are
saying given over. Many people are saying people are saying
that some of the information given over may have been
about assets. Yeah, probably in Russia. And yeah they got killed.

(42:38):
This one. People don't know him as much, but still bad.
In charge of the e P. A. Lee Zelden.

Speaker 4 (42:43):
Yeah, I don't know that much about him.

Speaker 3 (42:45):
He's he's I think he was in oil and gas.
Like he's basically the opposite of what you want for
the e PA.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
He was in the house for a little while.

Speaker 3 (42:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (42:54):
Uh, there's a lot of these people are younger than me,
and it's like, what am I doing?

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Now? Here's the one. These are a couple of ones
that don't need to be confirmed. The borders are is
a guy named Tom Holman.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
Who, Yeah, it's just a you know, it's a fake,
it's not an agency, no, but.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
But he'll he'll basically be sort of supervising all this nonsense.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
The person that goes on TV and talks about the
border and what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (43:25):
Well, and and he's uh, he's been very willing to
appear like very friendly with white nationalists. Uh and uh
basically racist podcasts and in programs like he's he's been
willing to be a guest and he recently was a
speaker at a white nationalist conference.

Speaker 1 (43:45):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (43:46):
So he's not a good person, and he's very kind
of a bombastic is maybe the word, just just one
of those just like angry, like angry kind of not
really thoughtful guy.

Speaker 4 (44:01):
I mean, he was actually appointed by Obama to the
Immigration of Customs Enforcement Executive Associate Director of Enforcement and
Removal all Operations at twenty thirteen, so I guess since
then he was really into like deporting people.

Speaker 3 (44:15):
Yeah, oh that's his thing. And then on the topic
of deportations and people who are nazis the deputy chiefs
of staff. It's a co department. There's Dan Scavino, who
is just like, you know, another not good guy. But
the main guy there that is frightening is Stephen Miller,

(44:35):
who is said to be he said to be the
author of many of Trump's speeches and a lot of
his policy, but his real reason for being seems to
be anti immigrant, like viheriently anti immigrant, courting the white
supremacists and basically a Goebels type figure. Stephen Miller, he'll

(45:00):
be one of Trump's deputy.

Speaker 4 (45:02):
Chiefs of staff for policy. Yeah, to be the policy guy.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
Yeah. And if that guy is making policy, you know
it's gonna be hateful and yeah, it's even as family
has basically said, this guy's this guy's bad. We don't
like him. He's doing all the wrong things. We mentioned
Howkabyu being in charge of Israel. There's a whole bunch.
Come back and talk briefly about what's happening with all

(45:30):
the all the Trump crimes and where that's going in
just a second.

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Speaker 1 (46:00):
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Speaker 3 (46:04):
Yes, we are on the home stretch here. My name
is Josh, his name is Bert, and we've been talking
about the nightmare that is uh, the incoming Trump administration
and all the crazy picks. Also, there's a bill that
actually didn't get passed now, but it looks to be

(46:26):
likely to be passed in the future.

Speaker 4 (46:29):
Yeah, it's coming back.

Speaker 3 (46:30):
Yeah once once the new Congress and the new Senate,
everyone sees it. It will probably come back and get
past frightening. It's it's like it's like a slapsuit for nonprofits. Basically,
the government will be able to label any nonprofit that
they disagree with as a terrorist threat and take away

(46:51):
their status. Yeah, it's wild, chilling, chilling. So there's that,
and that's just it's just typical. There's all kinds of
stuff in the works that is frightening, to say the least.
And we learned now that Jack Smith is winding down
his operations. They he's basically the rule is, the unwritten

(47:16):
rule is you can't charge a sitting president and you
can't indict a sitting president. And so h that's ending.
He's saying, he's he's ending his thing now. The hope,
the hope on my end, and I think for a
lot of people, is that because he's done all of
this work, all of his research, all of this investigation,
that it doesn't just disappear that he puts a Hopefully

(47:40):
there's a report.

Speaker 4 (47:41):
That report, and that's why he's resigning now so that
it won't be you know, given the Bill Barr treatment
to Merrick Garland will probably just publish it without comment.

Speaker 3 (47:51):
Well, I wonder, you kind of wonder because Merrick Garland
is still trying to like still trying to play both sides.

Speaker 4 (47:55):
And I can't. I just don't, you know, how can
that guy be so dumb? How can he not? I mean,
can he just stay I'm maybe people are heads just
so far up there that they just don't ever see
the light.

Speaker 3 (48:09):
No, like if he probably doesn't have social media because
his name is trending so often and not for the
right reasons, for being just an ineffective, ineffective ag like
someone who.

Speaker 4 (48:19):
Has a terrible choice is outside of you know, Biden
has a bunch of bad choices in Garland, is you know,
as the years have worn on, Garland as a bad
choice has like dropped down the list of bad choices
only because wars choices have been made.

Speaker 3 (48:36):
Yeah, but a consequence of one. Because if if he
had acted swiftly and not been so worried about appearing
partisan and followed the.

Speaker 4 (48:49):
Rules public and age that was dealing with the Democratic
Trusdent who tried to overturn the election, Trump wouldn't be
inside of a year.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
Trump wouldn't have been able to be on the ballot.
He would probably be in prison. But Garland just slow
walk to everything. And this is where we are. So
my hope is that Jack Smith publishes a report, and
he's hinted in the past that Trump may have sold

(49:17):
secrets to foreign countries, which is essentially treasonous. And hopefully
that information, even though Trump's, you know, he's basically set
to come in, hopefully the public gets that information because
maybe that'll wake a few people up. Although there's probably
a lot of people who say, oh no, it's like

(49:37):
the Muller report. It's like Russia, Russia, Russia.

Speaker 4 (49:40):
People that are paying attention are already kind of I mean,
there's people that pay attention to watch Fox, and then
there's people that pay attention. Yeah, so the people that
pay attention and watch Fox are for the most part,
in my opinion, not persuadable.

Speaker 3 (49:53):
Well, I even had a guy like all the way
to this Week online argue with me saying, Russia the
sha hoax. And I said, there there was a bipartisan
Senate investigation led by Republicans, headed by Republicans that said
the Russians were very much involved in coordinating to help

(50:14):
Donald Trump get elected.

Speaker 4 (50:16):
And I said, you've got these guys this summer that
they handed down that indictment of whatever they got name
was the fake person who had turned you know, all
those online. Yeah, Charlie Kirk was that who it was.
It's not Charlie Kirk, it's somebody else that what Day

(50:38):
and the Beanie guy anyway.

Speaker 3 (50:44):
Ruben Poole, the Russian Russian influencers.

Speaker 4 (50:47):
Were receiving question money from a front company called Tenant Media.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
So yeah, it's like, yeah, Russia is definitely involved in there.

Speaker 1 (50:57):
There.

Speaker 3 (50:57):
They were involved this time around in a big way.
They were called in bomb threats. Uh, they were working
with the doc money campaigns and influence campaigns and uh yeah,
it feels like it feels hopeless and uh, you know
that's not the happiest way to end a show.

Speaker 4 (51:14):
But we're here, We're gonna we get organized.

Speaker 1 (51:19):
Baby.

Speaker 3 (51:19):
Well that's the thing, like, there's got to be people
who are willing to put up a fight at least
at least say no to to not make it easy
not to roll over.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
And there's some of that.

Speaker 3 (51:31):
People need to, even people on the on the right
who who when they realize what what's happening, will have
the ability to say no.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
And when they, you know, when they see what the
reality of deportations looks like if it actually is shown
to them, Yeah, if they see what the terroiffs do. Yeah,
if they see what you know, it means to deploridate
your water. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
My hope, My if I can offer any kind of hope,
my hope is that the mid term elections aren't compromised
and they're fair and we can get a referendum on
what's happened to that point, because I think a lot
of people are going to wake up, and if there
are fair elections, we may be able to at least

(52:14):
put up some guardrails for this.

Speaker 4 (52:15):
Back to the informed voters voting in the midterms, which
is kind of how it goes.

Speaker 3 (52:19):
Let's hope another we need that midterm blue wave to happen.
All right, Well, on that note, you have yourself a
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