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November 27, 2024 49 mins
Take a break from the political strife and the Thanksgiving prep and join Kira for some hilarious (and cringey) Thanksgiving stories from around the country. Worried about the family dynamics this holiday? Maybe you don’t have it so bad after all. Have a cringey/funny Thanksgiving story of your own? Send it to Kira at JLTY@protonmail.com
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Speaker 2 (01:20):
Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. Welcome to the Thanksgiving episode of Just
Listening to Yourself. This is a podcast where we take
hot topics, hot button issues, and we discussed the talking
points on those topics, and we draw those talking points
all the way out to their logical conclusion. But today
isn't one of those days. We're not going to break
anything down, and we're going to talk about thankfulness.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
We're gonna use this week just.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
To ponder and to contemplate, and so in service of that,
rather than.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Using this time to.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
Make us anxious about the political and cultural stuff going on,
I thought we would focus on the holiday, focus on
Thanksgiving and what it means, and so in that respect,
I have collected some Thanksgiving stories from the internet, really
from Reddit.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
I love Reddit most trolling it.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
So there's great stories in the comments section there about
some funny and awkward family Thanksgivings. I thought that would
be fun to read through and maybe reminisce about some
of our own awkward Thanksgiving experiences. If you would like
to share yours, If you have a good one, share
it with me. Jlty at ProtonMail dot com. Jlty at

(02:35):
ProtonMail dot com. This is a holiday where we sit
down and remind ourselves about our blessings, and it is
something that we have done since the the nascence of
this country, and I believe it is one of just
one of the reasons why our country has been able

(02:57):
to endure the shifting sands of cultural chaos, particularly what
we've been through in the last decade or so. And
I do know that I don't want to speak for God.
You know, God's judgment comes when it comes, and we
certainly aren't. We're not living lives that should be free

(03:20):
of God's judgment. I guess here in America right, God,
America deserves God's judgment just as much as any other country.
I'll say that. That being said, I think perhaps one
of the things that has reserved God's extreme judgment on
us for some of our sins like slavery, abortion, things

(03:42):
like that, is the fact that we have taken time
corporately over the years since the beginning of our country
to step back as a nation and recognize the blessings
of liberty and to be grateful for what God has
given us. And I do believe that there is spiritual value,
and that I've said it before on the show, but

(04:02):
I think this year, especially especially, I feel like we
are positioned to really.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Absorb that reality.

Speaker 2 (04:13):
How many people have you said You've probably said it yourself.
Since election night, there seems to have been a spiritual
shift in this country. I'm not saying Christian shift, but
there's something going on at a spiritual level, a psychological level,
that has happened in this country. And it is palpable.
You can feel it, and we felt it in twenty twenty.

(04:35):
I told you guys this, I have said this consistently.
America felt pretty dark after twenty twenty. I don't care
if you were a Biden supporter, you hated Trump. America
got really dark and we all felt it. Crime was up,
the weirdness at the border, COVID strangeness, people distrusting each other,

(04:58):
blm anti, it just it's been mass chaos. And I've said,
if it feel if you look around, you feel like.

Speaker 1 (05:05):
Well, everything feels chaotic. How did it get like this
all of a sudden.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
If it feels chaotic, it's because it is chaotic, Because honestly,
we were in the wrong timeline. I don't think twenty
twenty was supposed to happen. It was a coup of sorts.
I had a Chinese person tell me, oh, you guys
had a coup. You just don't recognize it as a coup,
but that's what it was. And I'm I'm not saying
it was literally a coup. I don't know that, but

(05:31):
that's just how I feel. And so it had spiritual ratifications,
is what I'm blathering on about. We felt it in
our spirit and what we felt on election night in
twenty twenty four was a release.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
There is something.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Spiritual happening, and those things do affect American life and
the trajectory of America.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
They really do. So.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
I say all that to say it does matter that
we all sit down as a nation corporately and recognize
this day as a day when we point to a creator,
something outside of ourselves, and we say thank you, and
we recognize the value of gratefulness. It has psychological value,
it has health benefits, all of these can Doctor Jordan

(06:24):
Peterson has some interesting things to say about the psychology
and the physical benefits of gratefulness. I believe that because
our founding fathers saw fit to set aside times when
we do this, I do believe that in many ways
and at many times, it has spared us from God's
rightful and righteous judgment. And I don't think it's an

(06:48):
accident that so many people are trying to erase Thanksgiving
and replace it with Indigenous People's Day whatever, whatever, If
you want to use it for that, I mean, I
don't care. But the idea that as that corporately it
matters that we do these things corporately.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
It does.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
This is why I think it's important to put the
Bible back in the classroom. You don't have to put
a Bible curriculum in there if you don't want to,
but it's perfectly fine to post the Ten Commandments or
display a Bible in the classroom. It sets a corporate tone,
am I? It does that make sense for corporate living.

(07:27):
You're setting the culture. You do this in your family, right,
you set the culture of your family. In my home,
nobody enters this house. No stranger enters this house or
guests without my children coming into the room to speak
to them. So even when they were little, if they
were upstairs playing and they were busy and we otherwise
wouldn't want them in our faces, I still would demand

(07:49):
they come downstairs. You greet our guests, You say hello,
how are you, all the niceties, and then you can
go back to whatever you're doing, because in the Davis household,
no one walks in the house without being greeted. This
is your home and you are a host, so you
are expected to act as one. That's the culture of
our of our our family, or my husband's company, they

(08:13):
have a culture there, They have a they they do
activities that set a certain culture for the company, and
it sets a tone. So it does matter for us
to corporately recognize gratefulness, and it does matter that there
are people who want to remove that. I don't think

(08:34):
that's an accident, and you should absolutely treat those people
and their intentions with one hundred percent suspicion. It is
good for us to be thankful. In fact, the Scripture
is full, I mean, the scripture has I just did
a I.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Just went and did a Google search.

Speaker 2 (08:54):
I say, I was looking through scripture because you know,
I think thankfulness is a godly principle and we should
go to the Word to remind ourselves of that. But
eventually I said, oh, there's so many scriptures to look up.
Why don't I just do a listical. I'll look up
a listical online. So many scriptures came up.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
The Bible has.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
So much to say about thankfulness and gratefulness, so this
must be an important principle. And of course, as I've
just said, when you practice that in your life, it
bears itself out. And it doesn't matter what faith or
religion you are. Even your therapist will tell you practice
your affirmations, practice gratefulness, thankfulness.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
So it's no.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Accident that the Bible talks so much about thankfulness and gratefulness.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
And I have been making.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
I don't want to say an effort, but my mind
has been changed about some things. As I've hit fifty
and I'm starting to see the world a little differently,
and I've started to take I've started taking the Bible literally.
And I know, as Christians, some of y'all like, yeah,
I take it literally. But do we do we take
it literally? There's a lot of stuff in there where

(10:09):
we might say, oh, well, this is symbolic, or this
is metaphorical, or this is flowery language.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
For instance, I'll give you, but but it's not. It is.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
The Bible is very layered. It is, but it can
also be literal. I'll give you an example. This is
a small example. The Bible talks about the healing power
that you that that you have as a person. You
have the power to perform the miracles that Jesus performed.
You have the power of healing in your touch. Now,

(10:43):
a lot of people will say, well, yeah, that's like
you're you can summon the Holy Spirit and you know,
God can work miracles through your hands, which is true.
But there's also this is basic medicine one on one.
There's also tons and tons of support for the idea
that human touch is literally healing. If someone has a

(11:07):
headache and you put your hand on their forehead. That
actually conveys some energy. Energy sounds like an ethereal world word,
but it does convey, right, there's an exchange there, and it.

Speaker 1 (11:23):
Does release pain. Human touch eases pain. It's not.

Speaker 2 (11:28):
It's not for nothing that when your kid falls down
and hits scrapes their knee, you kiss it. Oh mommy,
make the boopa better. Right, That's that's actually not. We
don't do that just just out of nowhere. That cook
that doesn't just come out of nowhere. That's an evolutionary
response to pain because human touch literally can ease pain

(11:51):
and in some cases heal it. And probably we don't
even know the extent to which we could use touch
to to actually heal and not in this modern era.
So figuratively, yes, there's power in human touch because the
Holy Spirit works through us.

Speaker 1 (12:07):
But literally there is power in it.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
So I've been taking the Bible more literally. So if
the Bible talks about thankfulness this much, it must have
extreme value for your wellbeing. Let's just look at a
few here. First, Chronicles sixteen thirty four, give thanks to
the Lord, for he is good. His love endures forever.
First Thessalonians five eighteen, give thanks in all circumstances, for

(12:32):
this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus Colossians
three fifteen. Let the peace of Christ ruin your hearts,
since as members of one body you were called to
peace and be thankful Colossians three seventeen. And whatever you do,
whether in word or deed, do it all in the
name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
The Father through him Colossians four. Too.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
Devote yourself to prayer, being watchful and thankful Philippians for six. Yes,
do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation,
by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
I think that's really interesting.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
If you take the Bible literally that thanksgiving is important,
then why is it important that you begin with thanksgiving
when going to God. Well, maybe there's an element of
getting your spirit right right, being able to have that
full communication with the Creator, setting the right tone the

(13:32):
right culture for your spirit as you start your communications
with God Psalms seven seventeen. I will give to the
Lord thanks. I will give to the Lord the thanks
due to his righteousness. And I will sing praise to
the name of the Lord, the most High Psalms one hundred,
verse four. Enter his gates with thanksgiving, and his courts

(13:53):
with praise. Give thanks to him and praise his name.
Psalms one O six, verse one. Praise the Lord. Give
thanks to.

Speaker 1 (14:01):
The Lord, for he is good.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
His love endures forever Hebrews twelve, twenty eight and twenty nine. Therefore,
since we are receiving a kingdom that cannot be shaken,
let us be thankful and so worship God acceptably, with
reverence and awe for our God is a consuming fire.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
And let's end with this.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
I mean, there's more. There's hundreds more. There's hundreds more.
One Timothy four four through five. For everything God created
is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it
is received with thanksgiving, because it is consecrated by the
Word of God and prayer. So giving thanks is really
really important, and it's important, I think, to give thanks

(14:43):
with people that you care about.

Speaker 1 (14:45):
In this day and age. I've talked about the epidemic of.

Speaker 2 (14:49):
Loneliness, and I really do want to drill down on
this more on this show, because now that we're coming
out of our COVID hays, we're starting to really live
out the cost toquences of what we did, and it's
starting to become evident, and just watching how isolated people are,
and also after the election, how comfortable so many people

(15:10):
seem to seem cutting off their family because of Trump.
I the enemy has done a number on us, You
know what I mean. The enemy has done a real
number on us. One of the big greatest strengths of
God's kingdom is community. And so right from the start,

(15:34):
you know Christ, we see all the examples and how
God creates what the garden of Eden looked like, and
what the and what Christ embodied in his walk on
Earth and in the garden community. In the garden of Eden,
excuse me, Adam was alone. But God saw that wasn't good.
He was the only of it. He wasn't alone. There
were obviously other there were probably other entities and animals,

(15:57):
and I'm sure there were other things that we can imagine,
but there was none like him. There there were no
humans there. God created community for him. He gave him
even in Christ when his ministry began, and he grew
up in a large family, and then he brought a
family close to him, a community of apostles. So community

(16:19):
is important. And when you disrupt community. That's evil and
that's usually the first thing socialists and communists will do.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
They try to disrupt community. What do they do.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
They break up the churches right where there's big community.
That's one of the first things that happened in COVID.
Strip clubs, open churches, closed community is so important and
so taking time to be with people that you love
and respect.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
It matters.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
And the older I get because I'm a nomad am,
I I'm from a family of individuals, a lot of divorce,
a lot of trauma, lots of stuff for lots of reasons.
My particular family, my nuclear family, is very scattered and
we're not clothes and that was my normal forever until

(17:13):
quite recently.

Speaker 1 (17:14):
And now that I'm.

Speaker 2 (17:15):
Older, I'm realizing the value of making time for people
and yes, inconvenien seeing yourself to sit down with people
and celebrate with them and share a meal with them.
I had a friend. I was talking to a friend
at a wedding. We were at a wedding last week
and he him and his girlfriend lived together.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Y'all, no I feel about cohabitation.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
If you don't go back and listen to the episode
and cohabitation we're talking. They're talking about marriage. We've been
talking about when they're going to be ready for that.
And he said, you know, I'm thinking, if and when
we do get married, we'll just do a courthouse wedding
and then we'll have a party for our friends, because really,
what's the point of having people there for the ceremony

(17:58):
is the bone boring part. We want to part with you,
Let's party together. So we'll do it at the courthouse
and then have a party. And I said, well, let
me explain it to you, to which he rolled his
eyes because he knows what I do for a living,
and he knows I'm such a big meal and everything's
a lesson from Kia. I'm sorry, that's just who I am.
So you rolled his eyes. But I said, here's why

(18:18):
you get married in front of all those people, because
marriage isn't just a piece of paper. It isn't that
the ceremony isn't just the boring part. It serves a purpose.
You are vowing in front of God that you will
love and cherish and honor this person for the rest
of your life. The people in your audience are the

(18:39):
people who are going to hold you accountable for that.

Speaker 1 (18:42):
Promise.

Speaker 2 (18:43):
That's why you do those vows in front of other people.
It's not the party and it's not so I mean,
it's nice to be all to wear pretty dress up
there and be the center of attention as the gal.
I don't think the guys like it as much. It's
not for that though. It's not symbolic. It is quite little.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
You are telling. That's why you.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
Should pay attention to your guest list. You're telling these people. Look,
we're giving you permission to hold us accountable in the future,
and we're saying you've been here to witness these vows,
and so when we need help, you will be on
the list of people we will turn to for support.
So yeah, these corporate celebrations do matter, and celebrating Thanksgiving

(19:24):
together does matter. On that note, Thanksgiving isn't always the
most comfortable of occasions, especially after a very contentious election.

Speaker 1 (19:34):
So I was.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Inspired to go look up some awkward family Thanksgiving stories
and so I'm going to read you a few. Now,
let's go to a break though, and when we come back,
if you think you have experienced awkward Thanksgiving, some of
these stories really take the cake or the sweet potato
pie or the pumpkin pie, depending on where you fall

(19:56):
down on that.

Speaker 1 (19:56):
All right, we'll be right back.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
All right, we're back with some awkward Thanksgiving stories. Do
you guys have fights over food? Our family's pretty good
about it. We were at this point. It's a well
oiled machine. And we have a smaller nuclear family or
close family, so we don't have a lot.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Of moving pieces to deal with.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
And everybody kind of has their dish. I am a
terrible cook. I don't really cook. I make mac and cheese.
That's where I can make the mac and cheese. I
got the recipe of a box one hundred years ago
and that's what I make. And my husband makes whatever
meat he likes to have, at least two kinds. And
my father in law always makes the sweet potatoes, and

(20:46):
my sister in law makes a potato salad, and she
makes a killer potato salad. I love her potato salad.
And there are no raisins in the potato salad. Certainly not.
But people do get a little bit you know, territorial
over there Thanksgiving dishes. I don't know if you guys

(21:06):
have had fights over Thanksgiving dish at your house. If
you have, I'd love to hear about a jlty at
proton mail dot com.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Here's this one.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Somebody wrote this story or contributed this story about their
Thingsgiving dinner. They titled it All of This Over Potato Salad.
It was Thingsgiving night and the majority of the family
was at my grandparents' house. My aunt I'll call them
A and B were setting up dinner when they realized
that they both made potato salad. B got angry and

(21:35):
stated that she was in charge of the potato salad,
so A should just take hers back home. I said
it would be no problem for us to or excuse me,
A said it would be no problem for us to
have two because the family could enjoy both well. A
became really angry for some reason later, so when B
wasn't looking, she dumped the whole bowl in the trash.

(21:59):
B found out and was so angry and offended the
two began to argue in the kitchen. Suddenly A took
a turkey knife and threatened to stab B if she
didn't leave. At that point, one of my uncles called
nine one one, but since he'd been drinking for quite
a bit, he shouted the house is on fire, and
a few minutes later a fire truck Joe drove up.

(22:24):
So not only is the pantano salad in the trash,
the turkey knife is missing. Somebody's got a turkey knife
in the in the house, and the fire department has
been called. They got fined for prank calling, and the
whole family started to fight over who was.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Going to pay for it.

Speaker 2 (22:43):
For the time being, my cousin and I went and
hid from the yelling in a small room called the
doll room. It was full of my grandma's old doll
collection and pretty creepy. It sounds creepy. We were freaked out,
but stayed inside. It must be really bad outside outside
went on Thanksgiving. The scene in your Thanksgiving living room

(23:04):
is so bad that you have to go hide in
the creepy dollroom. When we left the room, my cousin
told him that the room was haunted, and the older
cousin suddenly tackled him and started to beat him up.
My cousin was screaming and the family was yelling, and
the cop showed up and arrested three of my uncles.
A bunch of people left, and my grandma was just

(23:26):
crying in the background. Finally, a couple of hours later,
everything was back to normal. Sitting around the table where
my grandparents, one aunt, one uncle, my beat up cousin,
my older angry cousin, my parents, and me. We all
ate in awkward silence and nobody ate the potato salad
since it actually ended up tasting gross.

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Okay, So one fire department visit, one visit from the police,
one turkey knife, one this fight, one bull of potato
salad in the trash, several arrests, one crying grandma.

Speaker 1 (24:08):
Wow, that is.

Speaker 2 (24:10):
An epic Thanksgiving story. I bet the police are really
busy on Thanksgiving. People are drinking, emotions are high. If
you're a police officer and you have a crazy Thanksgiving
call story, please hit me up jlty at ProtonMail dot com.
I will even record you if you want to, like,
get on and record something. We can do it as

(24:32):
like a like a little Justine or something. All right,
the next awkward Thingsgiving story? All right, this one is
titled well that escalated quickly. I was having dinner with
a female friend of mine on Thanksgiving since my dad
was out of state spending the holiday at the time.

(24:52):
Spending the holiday with my at the time stepmom's family.
My friend lived with her folks, and she invited me
and one other friend that had happened to actually be
her girlfriend. Her parents were super intolerant religious folks I
don't know, and so she stayed in the closet when
it finally came. When it came to family anyway, halfway
through what started out as a pleasant meal, my friend's
older brother, who somehow found out about the relationship, made

(25:16):
a snarky comment about it, and things went absolutely nuts.
The mom was crying, the dad was going nuts, yelling,
swiping dishes off the table, throwing things at the wall.

Speaker 1 (25:26):
At one point he pointed to me and.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Said, you knew this, didn't you, in a scary manner,
like he would jump across the table and beat me up.

Speaker 1 (25:34):
All the while her older brother was sitting back with
this smug smirk on his face.

Speaker 2 (25:39):
We all three got out of there as quick as
we could, and we ended up getting dinner at Boston Market.
My friend ended up moving in with their girlfriend and
had to get a job because her trust fund was
cut off almost immediately. As far as I know, she
has not spoken to her family's and the brother was
like mission accomplished, sis, No longer has her trust fund.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Oh my gosh, Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
I you know Sis is out for revenge because there's
no way she doesn't have info on him as well.

Speaker 1 (26:15):
This feels like.

Speaker 2 (26:16):
Someone just pulled the nuclear option. I wonder what was
going on between brother and sister before that he knew
this is a secret that the parents that they wouldn't
want their parents to hear. She must have pissed him
off somehow she did something and now she doesn't have
the trust fund and brother is the favorite. Ah, delightful, privileged,

(26:40):
awkward Thanksgiving. This is a cute one, and let's do
this one. It's called I Can't avoid a Mother's death clare.
During Thanksgiving dinner as a kid, we decided to go
to my mom's friend's house for dinner. Before we started eating,
we had to say prayers. When it was my turn,
I said, but Mom, Jesus isn't real Do I have
to the rest of the evening, I kept getting scares

(27:02):
from my mother.

Speaker 1 (27:06):
I don't know what era this is from, uh or what.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Kind of community this is from, so I just I
do want to say though, it's interesting that this popped
up because today I was on Twitter x and I
saw a Christian, someone who called themselves a Christian, complaining
about Christians praying around the table over thingsgiving dinner. She says,
this makes me uncomfortable when Christians start praying over dinner

(27:33):
in public because of my agnostic husband. I don't think
you should force your views on other people. And I thought, gosh,
what an odd thing as a Christian to say.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
Now, it seems like the.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Storyteller in this instance somebody was requiring them to pray,
saying you pray, and I don't think you should do
that as Christians.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
That is very awkward. And no, of course not.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
You absolutely should not ask someone to pray if you
are not sure about their faith, or require anyone around
the dinner table. I don't even think around the dinner
table Christians. You know you don't go around saying grace.
It's dinner time, people are hungry, one person says grace,

(28:20):
one person says grace. However, I don't think it is.
It's a very common tradition to say grace over a meal.
It's very common. It's just as common as the host
telling everybody please eat. If you don't believe in Jesus,
if you don't believe in God or whatever God this
person is praying to. I believe this, even as a Christian.

(28:42):
The polite thing to do is to just sit silently. Now,
I think this kid was right to say, Hey, I
don't believe in Jesus.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
Do I have to pray? And out of the mouths
of babes?

Speaker 2 (28:53):
Right, he shouldn't have been required to pray, But I
felt it was really weird to read that from a
Christian to say, oh, I get so uncomfortable. Well, that's
another cultural thing we've set in our family. Sometimes it
is uncomfortable to bow your heads and pray when you're
in a restaurant.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Right, we don't belabor the point.

Speaker 2 (29:13):
It's not for show, but we have always made it
a point to be grateful for our food. Food is
the most basic sustenance, and to eat out is a privilege.
To pay someone else to prepare your meal and to
eat something tasty and something you wouldn't usually have.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
That's a blessing.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
So we have always bowed our heads no matter where
we are and said a prayer quickly always, and now
our children do it automatically. They're embarrassed about all kinds
of other things in public. But this is something they
never question and they never make a fuss about uh.
And guess what, no one has ever made a fuss

(29:52):
about it to us in public either.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
No one.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
And might have plenty of non Christian guests who have
sat at my dinner table and we all always pray.
That's part of the culture in our home, and we
have never asked any of them to pray.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
I've never even asked them to bow their heads.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
I've simply said, you know, warned them like, oh, we're
going to say grace now if you would, if you
don't mind, we don't mind. If you just want to
sit there silently, that's all it takes. I feel like
people make a bigger deal out of this than necessary. Anyway,
that was cute from that kid. Yeah, absolutely, kid, you
said the right thing.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
All right.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
This story is really cringey. It's actually called what he
said was beyond cringe worthy. This happened on Thansgiving a
year or two ago. Everything was seemingly normal. My grandmother
and I were finishing up the food preparations. My dad
was waiting patiently, and we were waiting for my uncle
to arrive, knowing he was going to be late. As
always we started to eat. I will bag this up

(30:53):
by saying, I'm not that close with this uncle. I
really don't know him that well due to him avoiding
my grandfather while he was alive.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Eventually he arrives for dinner and starts eating.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
The conversation started out normal, with questions such as what
are you going to do after you graduate? And are
you seeing anybody? And then it got silent, and then
he busts into a story about the time he went
to get a vosectomy and they told him he was
shooting blanks before he started talking about his bowel movement.
This is all while we were eating, while no one

(31:22):
was drinking at dinner. I sure wish the monster energy
drink I was drinking was something a little stronger so
I could forget this ever happened. Wow, I awkward Thanksgiving conversations.
I believe a lot of people are nervous, so I'm

(31:43):
going to chalk that one up to just nervous energy
and people say crazy things when they're nervous. I bet
you've got an embarrassing story that keeps you up at night.
I do, I think a lot of it. And then
this poster said that you know this uncle hadn't come
around while the grandfather was alive. Clearly there's a lot
of tension in the family, and I yeah, I'm gonna

(32:04):
chalk it up to just really not knowing the art
of conversation. There's a great Curb Your Enthusiasm episode I
can't remember, I don't know what it's called, but it's
about a dinner party and being how you have to
the table. Seating is vital to keeping the conversation flowing naturally.
If you don't have a good middle, it's going to
ruin the whole dinner. So at this dinner Larry goes too.

(32:28):
They've got like two boring people in the middle, and
the dinner is so boring, and they end up talking
about paint samples, and finally Larry's like, this is all wrong.

Speaker 1 (32:39):
You've got the wrong middle you need. I'm a middle.
I'm a middle.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
So the whole energy of the party changes when they
switch the middle. You gotta have a good middle at
your Thanksgiving table, so make sure you've got a good
conversationalist towards the center of the table. Now this doesn't
necessarily mean the most interesting person, but it's got to
be someone who can keep several conversations going at once,

(33:05):
and who knows how to jumpstart conversations when things get awkward.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
Kira Davis, for instance, is a good middle right because
I can.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
I can talk to a lot of different people about
a lot of different things. I'm curious enough to want
to hear what the answers are to whatever the topic is,
and I do know how, being as this is my job,
I know how to keep conversations moving. So keep that
in mind during your Thanksgiving place settings.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Well, here's a fun Thanksgiving one. Here's one. It is
tied a low quality friend with high quality taste.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Uh oh, I've had a couple of those. This person says.
I was six when this happened. Some of my mom's
friends came over for a friends giving dinner. The food
was great, but one of the friends seemed really weird.
We have two bathrooms in our house, in our penthouse.
The first one was under renovations, but the second was

(34:05):
upstairs and free. All of our bedrooms and closets were upstairs.
Our dinner finished, and we were wondering where my mom's
friend went. So we checked upstairs and the bathroom was
free and no one was inside. We checked in my
mom and dad's bedroom, which had a ton of jewelry,
mind you, and she was inside grabbing jewelry from the closet.

(34:25):
My mom kicked her out and we spent all night
checking for missing jewelry. No jewelry was taken, but my
mom never talked to her quote friend again. Oh my gosh. Wow,
How messed up is it that if you steal from
people on Thanksgiving?

Speaker 1 (34:46):
You're going to hell? You are going to.

Speaker 2 (34:52):
Wow. I don't know that I've ever had anything stolen
by a party guest, but my son Scott has said
that he's had several things stolen from his apartment by
party guests. But I guess he also lives in a
metropolitan area, so that's what happens when you have parties.
Friends of friends come. But this sounded like this was

(35:12):
this lady's quote friend. You gotta be careful about your friends, ladies.

Speaker 1 (35:18):
Not every lady that.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Is fun and nice to you is your friend. I've
got a friend who's learning this the hard way. She's
so open and got such a great spirit and so generous,
and she also happens to be independently wealthy. And this
is just how this is I'm not gonna explain it.

(35:39):
That's the life she's lived and that's the blessing she's
been giving. But she's not arrogant or but she's a
very She's an extremely generous woman and just very fun.

Speaker 1 (35:50):
I love her. But because I say all had to
say that.

Speaker 2 (35:53):
Because of that, she often attracts through to the area
we live in, people who are clout chasers, people who
like the fact that her money gives her some type
of influence. And she's always taking on friends who seem
really great and fun at first, but then they just
turn into weird o backstabbers or people who steal from her,

(36:17):
and that is one of the downsides of privilege. I
guess you have to be careful. Not everyone who's kind
to you or nice to you is your friend, and
friendship needs to be tested. So there's nothing wrong with
being excited about somebody and being excited about a new
friend and diving in. I mean, that's always really fun.
But you don't have to immediately trust a person. Trust

(36:40):
has to be earned.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
So it really is okay.

Speaker 2 (36:43):
You don't have to be the person who's gonna give
the shirt off your back at step one. You can
do that at step four or five, because not everyone.
It's not that not everyone deserves the shirt off your back,
because probably no one deserves the shirt off your back.
But not everyone needs the shirt off your back. And
you won't know that until you know a person well

(37:06):
enough to truly discern their needs. So I don't know
why I felt moved to give that message.

Speaker 1 (37:11):
I just did. Maybe somebody needs to hear that.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Okay, all right, here is one story titled Table six.
This person, you guys need at the kid's table. You
have a kid's table and an adult table. When I
was growing up, my.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Family's weird.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
I have five different versions of family because divorce. But
my first my stepdad's family was big. My family isn't big,
but his family is big. And we didn't have a
kid's table, but we had separate eating schedules. We had
a lot of kids, so kids eight first and then
the adults eight second. That's how we did it. No
kid's table. But this is a very This is a

(37:51):
story about a kid's table. This person was not impressed
that this Thanksgiving only wants to buy family. Ever do
a kid's table for Thanksgiving? And I'm pretty sure that
I'm the reason they never did it again. I'm not
sure where this kid's table idea even got started or why,
but I'd heard of it before because I knew other

(38:12):
people who were raised that way. Well, one year, it
was decided that's the way they'd be doing Thanksgiving, and
that I had no say in the matter, which if
I was ten, I probably have just learned to live
with it and moved on. But that year I had
just turned nineteen years old, I had my driver's license,
a job, and had just voted for the first time

(38:32):
in my life, and my older sister, for whom for
some ft up reason, was okay with this, had just
gotten engaged.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
My ahole teenager.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
Rationale at the time was that if I was old
enough to vote and pay taxes like the other adults,
then at least I could eat a.

Speaker 1 (38:49):
Damn meal like one ef it.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
I may have had no say in the seating arrangements,
but I happily spent the rest of the meal ruining
everyone's morale in between bites of food with my many
rants and tangents, and to a room full of people
I later found out weren't even invited ever to our
house that year. If you do a kid's table at
your house this year. Rethink your criteria of what qualifies

(39:13):
as someone being a kid less than nineteen year old.
Jerk does the same.

Speaker 1 (39:19):
That's so petty.

Speaker 2 (39:23):
Okay, I you know what. This is petty, But I
feel like everybody gets a pass here.

Speaker 1 (39:28):
I get it. I get it. So my son is
in this situation.

Speaker 2 (39:32):
He's twenty two, and people are still putting him at
the kids table because he hasn't quite he's in college,
he's gen z. He's not quite an adult, so having
the adult conversations, and he's at an age where he's
kind of young and he's cool, and so the kids
love him. So he always ends up sitting at the
kid's table because the kids always love hanging out with him. Frankly,

(39:56):
I think he prefers saying out the kids than the adults.
He's not adult enough yet to enjoy conversations about appliances,
and he still plays video games, so I think he
likes the But yeah, I get it though, because and
then as an adult, it's really hard, especially when you
only see certain family members every so often. You're not

(40:19):
seeing your family members grow up, and it's hard to
look at them as grown ups and so, yeah, you're nineteen,
but your family's probably looking at you still like a kid.
You know, you're still a little kid. It's hard to
think of you. I think it's hilarious that this person
was like, well, I'm just gonna be a jerk, Like, yeah,
that's one way to I don't know what this person said,

(40:40):
but it's definitely a clever idea.

Speaker 1 (40:42):
Just start having all kinds of inappropriate conversations with the
kids at the kid's table, and you can be like, oh, well,
I'm having adult.

Speaker 2 (40:50):
Conversations for the adult table, but someone's in my seat.

Speaker 1 (40:54):
I guess oh boy, Yeah, I think kids tables are fine.
I actually I prefer them. When my kids were younger,
it was much preferable.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
They could sit there and be silly with each other
and make a mess at that little table, and then
it's kind of like, all right, I just tip it
over and scrape it off and I can have a
conversation at the Thanksgiving table. All right, here's another family brawl.

(41:28):
Two of my cousins, adult women in our thirties and forties, Okay,
this is important, got into a brawl and it all
started because of some soda that was spilled on the floor.
My two cousins was called Maria and June, each have kids.
Maria has a son, John, who had time, who at
the time was two maybe three. June has three kids
from seven to thirteen. One night and our family got
together and had one Thanksgiving. We're having dinner at my

(41:52):
aunt's house. June's middle son, Ray was pouring soda for
Maria's son and a cop. John moved the cop. Soda
spilled on the floor and everyone started laughing. Ray got
upset and.

Speaker 1 (42:02):
Screamed at him.

Speaker 2 (42:03):
Maria didn't take too kindly to that, told him to
shut the f up and to pour him the soda.
Ray started complaining and whining, which, okay, here's one that
is Oh my gosh, I'm sorry to laugh. You're going
to hell if you laugh at this. My grandmother ran
over herself with her SUV one Thanksgiving. I was on

(42:25):
my way to the festivities when it happened, so I
don't know the exact details, but she was getting out
food from the back of her SUV. She put it
in neutral instead of park, and it slowly ran over her.
The craziest part is that my family all inside didn't
notice until they heard a bump against the house. The
suv made three loops before hitting the house. She ended

(42:48):
up being fine, but now isn't allowed to go outside
alone anymore on holiday.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
This story is now the oh Grandma moment and our family.

Speaker 4 (42:58):
Oh my gosh, this is a short one, but this
person says, my grandma accidentally poured dish soap on the
turkey instead of oil.

Speaker 1 (43:10):
Might have been one of the funniest but most upsetting things. Ever.
Oh that's the worst when you have plans.

Speaker 2 (43:16):
I have a friend who had a beagle and they
made the Thanksgiving turkey and they went out to you know,
say hi to her parents real quick and come back
and eat their dinner. When they came back, the beagle
had pulled the turkey off the counter and he.

Speaker 1 (43:31):
Had eaten the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (43:32):
And she the beagles aren't big dogs, she said, you
could see the turkey and his stomach.

Speaker 1 (43:36):
He was on the floor. He didn't even move when
he walked in. It was so.

Speaker 2 (43:42):
Bloated. And it's funny. I guess things go wrong. And
I think when my kids were younger and I was
doing Thanksgiving for a lot of family, and you put
pressure on yourself for these things to go right.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
I don't know why we do that.

Speaker 2 (44:01):
You know, I think I would have been upset if
things didn't go right. But now I realize, like, now,
what does it matter? You know what, you burn the
turkey port dish, so funny, you call for pizza. That's that,
and then that's your funny Thanksgiving story. It doesn't need
to be a whole thing. And we put so much
pressure on ourselves, and it doesn't need to be perfect.

Speaker 1 (44:20):
It doesn't even need to be close to perfect.

Speaker 2 (44:22):
In fact, if it if everything fails and it's the worst,
Like if all your food fails, I mean, you know,
all your dishes fail again, you just you order pizza,
put on a movie and laugh about it.

Speaker 1 (44:36):
This person said. This person says, he thought it. Oh boys,
boys will be boys.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
I thought it would be a funny prank to put
a rubber chicken in the oven on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (44:47):
My mom would laugh and laugh, Oh there's a rubber
chicken in the oven.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
What a gag, thirteen year old meat and realize that
normal adults usually preheat the oven before putting the turkey in.
Oh boy, yeah, yeah, I would be mad. I'll laugh
about it later. Oh I would be mad about it then,

(45:15):
And here's one I think this is a great one
to end on in that respect. My family member was
transporting our meal between houses in their car and slid
off the road, sending the turkey, mashed potatoes, stuffing, desserts,
everything flying around the car into a massive swirl of
messy destruction. It was just upsetting. I think we ended
up ordering KFC that year. And yeah, because what are

(45:38):
you thankful for? When you feel yourself getting a little
worked up, pull back, take a breath, just realize this
is one day, this is one meal, and it's inconsequential
in this Okay, if you have a bad day, that's fine.
It's really is fine to have a bad day and

(45:58):
then it's over.

Speaker 1 (46:00):
It's really okay to get a kick out of having
a bad day too. You know, sometimes you.

Speaker 2 (46:05):
Got to laugh, I guess is what you're saying to
avoid crying. But you're not at Thanksgiving for a perfect experience.
You're at Thanksgiving to remind yourself of the things you
have to be grateful for. Sometimes that means being at
Thanksgiving with your crazy, annoying, maddening family that makes you
feel unwanted and makes you feel unaccomplished. And triggers all

(46:30):
of your you know whatever from your childhood. Sometimes even
being with them remind can remind you of the things
you're grateful for in your life now and how far
you've come.

Speaker 1 (46:41):
There's value in it, is what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
So don't shy away from it, don't be afraid of it.

Speaker 1 (46:48):
I challenge you to take what could.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Be an uncomfortable experience is Thanksgiving, and maybe make it
into an opportunity, another opportunity for you to remember all
of the things you're grateful for. I'm grateful for you.
I hope you guys have some fun Thanksgiving stories. Share
anything fun or weird or crazy you go through this Thanksgiving.
I want to hear I want to hear it all.
Jlty at ProtonMail dot com. I'll definitely do a holiday

(47:14):
episode to read these had so much fun, guys, do
not miss the special Thanksgiving Day episode this year. I'm
reading a sermon from eighteen fifty three from doctor Charles
Wadsworth that will blow your mind. Could be written in
twenty twenty four. I read it for fun and I
was so moved by it. I was like, I got

(47:34):
to read this to JLT. Why how do I do this.
I thought, Okay, this is a great excuse for a
Thanksgiving episode. You know, we don't have to think too
hard about anything. We're not talking about politics.

Speaker 1 (47:45):
On this day.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
This was a great, great sermon. It is about Thanksgiving,
but it also is about the duty of every Christian
in political life as well as social life.

Speaker 1 (47:57):
So you won't want to miss it.

Speaker 2 (47:59):
Go ahead, make sure if you're not subscribed, hit the
subscribe button on whatever platform you're on so you don't
miss it and gets downloaded directly to your box.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
Happy Thanksgiving, everybody. I hope your Turkey Day is as.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Fun and exciting and satisfying as Election night.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Every Thanksgiving, opbraiders.

Speaker 3 (48:22):
All masoda that we won't with bathe and then we
won't to say, oh we got it? Does no one
get dig that O?

Speaker 1 (48:29):
And it gonna be okay? Op braiders all masoda that.

Speaker 3 (48:35):
We won't with bath and then we won't to say,
oh we gott it? Does no one get dig that O?

Speaker 1 (48:40):
And maad it don't be okay.

Speaker 2 (48:44):
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