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September 15, 2023 3 mins
I'm Just Sayin - South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem, Infidelity and "The Pence Rule"
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This is the FCB podcast network.Just listen to yourself, Prisetts. I
understand with Cura Davis. South DakotaGovernor Christy Noom is in hot water this
week after a salacious Daily Mail storydropped claiming she's been having a year's long

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affair with Trump campaign operative Corey Lewandowski. The article accuses the married mother of
four of spending inappropriate amounts of timewith Lewandowski alone on private jets, sharing
hotel rooms, and engaging in openflirting on the campaign trail. Gnom has
so far denied the allegations. Idon't pretend to know what's true here.

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This is one article that is reallynothing that accusations. There is no smoking
gun at the moment, But inpolitics, especially, accusations are often as
good as proof when it comes todamaging reputations. Clearly someone is out to
damage GNOME's reputation, whether or notshe's guilty of adultery. She has been
an excellent governor though, and Ifor one, refuse to condemn her based

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on rumors, and even if she'sguilty, it doesn't change the incredible positive
leadership she has offered her state.That being said, there is a way,
Gnome and anyone else could avoid theseaccusations and potentially career destroying rumors.
These days, we call it thePence rule. You'll remember it. Former

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Vice President Mike Pence admitted that,as a rule, he never meets alone
with women or socializes with other womenwithout his wife present. Naturally, the
progressive toddlers accused him of being unableto control his rape fantasies around women,
but mature people understand that his ruleis not really about his sexual impulses.

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It's about safeguarding safeguarding from emotional attachmentsthat can develop when you spend a lot
of time with a member of theopposite sex. This is why movie sets
are often incubators for affairs. Peopleisolated together and being vulnerable and creating together
creates a false sense of intimacy thatcan develop into inappropriate relationships. Pence can

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never be accused of infidelity in public, at least because he does not open
himself up to such accusations because ofhis rule. That rule protects not only
his family and his character, buthis job. He doesn't need to worry
about being falsely accused if he headsthat type of thing off at the past
by removing himself from situations that couldbe construed as inappropriate or turn inappropriate.

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Gnome did not have the same rule, and it's led to perhaps infidelity,
but definitely a hit on her reputation. She left herself vulnerable, and in
politics, that is like blood inthe water. The Pence rule gets a
lot of ridicule from people who havezero understanding of basic human nature, but
it serves multiple purposes and has nodownside that I can see. Governor No

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might do well to consider such arule for herself. I'm Kia Davis,
and I'm just saying. This hasbeen a presentation of the FCB podcast Network,
where real talk lifts. Visit usonline at FCB podcasts dot com.
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