KCAA: Justice Watch with Attorney Zulu Ali (Sun, 18 May, 2025)

KCAA: Justice Watch with Attorney Zulu Ali on Sun, 18 May, 2025

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Thank you for timing there for this edition of Justice
Watch with Attorney Zulu Ali.

Speaker 4 (05:03):
I am Attorney Zulu Ali with the Justice Watch crew,
Rose of.

Speaker 5 (05:07):
New Year's Michael Blauklark, Doctor Kilbashir, and Andrea Rodeman. This week,
like every week, we'll be discussing critical and legal and
social justice issues that are impacting our community.

Speaker 7 (05:21):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (05:21):
This is actually our special Black History Month edition of
Justice Watch. We have a very very special guest with
us today. It's doctor Ami Yasin el Hadid. He is
actually the former chair uh and professor at Tennessee State University.

(05:45):
He received his bachelor's degree at Alabama State University and
he received his PhD in sociology from the University of California.
He is actually he's an author, he's a scholar, and
he's personally somebody.

Speaker 4 (06:01):
Who's near and dear to me. Uh.

Speaker 5 (06:04):
He's actually my mentor and always said that I received
my education as a student, UH, and I continue to
grow and learn from him today and all of my
other schooling was just a training to me. And he
basically laced me spiritually and mentally. And as I said,
the last time, you're going to learn something today for sure.

Speaker 4 (06:26):
So thank you for joining us again today, doctor al Hadee.
Is he on.

Speaker 9 (06:36):
There?

Speaker 4 (06:37):
Okay? Sorry about that? Okay, So anyway, so.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
Again, thank you for joining us, okay, h And and
basically we're gonna focus today, uh this today on the
legacy of Malcolm X. Actually, our topic is the Black
History Month and the legacy of Malcolm X. And you know,

(07:01):
Malcolm is a very endearing and respected figure, and often
this legacy is minimized to a specific speech or a
slogan like by ity means necessary. And we know everybody
claims Malcolm but both politically and spiritually, from black nationalists
to socialists.

Speaker 4 (07:20):
Uh So, I want to just jump right into it
because I know we don't.

Speaker 5 (07:24):
Really have a whole lot of time, but I kind
of want to see if you can kind of lay
out the complexities of Malcolm as both a national and
a global figure.

Speaker 9 (07:35):
Oh yes, sir, okay, I said, on while they come
through you and the listening audience beast and blessings. So
Almighty God a lobby with each and every one of you.
And I want to start with, at least in the
first segment, talk about the last two years of his life,

(07:55):
because I think we know quite a bit already about it.
I prior to Exodust from the nation in Thislam, but
we don't really have a good picture of where he
was trying to go in his trajectory. So I'd like
to share with the audience three quotes, one from the Koran,
and then one uh hadith or saying from the prop

(08:18):
of Muhammad the Larslan, and then quote from a brother Malcolm.
And I think that would sort of set the table
in the landscape for what I would like to contribute
and stay going forward. The Koran says, a mosque whose
foundation was laid from the first day on piety is
more worthy of your standing for for prayer. Therein in

(08:40):
it a man who loved to be purified, and a
law loves those who make themselves pure. I'm establishing this
as a baseline because, as you know, when he left
the Nation of Islam, he did establish the mass, the
muster of the moss incorporated, and he drew a clear
line of demarcation between mainstream or Sunni Islam or universal

(09:04):
Islam and the type of Islam that he participated in
in the Nation of Islam from outside of prison from
nineteen fifty two to nineteen sixty three. But he's actually
converted in prison. He converted as early as nineteen forty eight,
and then when he came out, he became assistant minister

(09:27):
along with his brother Wolford, who was the Minister Mohammad
mas Member one there in Detroit. So I want to
start from that. And the reason I want to do
that is because, as you well know, I've read books
and journal articles and watched documentaries about Malcolm Maxwell as

(09:51):
I prefer to call him at Boz, And what you
will find, without exception is at least ninety five percent. Uh,
those sources, whether they're primary or secondary, tend to focus
on his ideology as a Pan africanis as ideologists, a nationalist,

(10:11):
and uh, they don't really focus on his development.

Speaker 10 (10:15):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (10:15):
You know, from beginning to end. As the Muslims I
want to establish. You know that that baseline. The other
quote is far from Mohamas Saul Islam. He says, the
profit piece investment Bill Hans said, none of you will
have faith till he wishes for his Muslim brother what
he likes for himself, and finally from Hesmlik himself. This

(10:36):
is a statement he made after he left the Nation
of Islam. I am and all will always will be
a Muslim. My religion is Islam. I do not pretend
to be a divine man, but I do believe in
divine guidance, divine power, and the fulfillment of divine prophecy.
My sincerity are my credentials. And as you know, on

(10:58):
March the eighth, nineteen sixty four, after it was clear
that he was not going to be let back into
the Nation of Islava, let me share with the audience
what happened. Housing Lee gave a speech in New York
on December the first, nineteen sixty three. It was piled

(11:18):
God judgment of America and because of the assassination of
President Kennedy. He was sold explicitly and clearly not to
make any comments about the assassination of President Kennedy because
you know a lot of African Americans loved Kennedy. And
plus the fact that you know the Nation of Islam
was not in the good graces of the government, so

(11:41):
they just didn't want to invite any kind of unnecessary drama.
And not only did he tell Malcolm that, who was
this national spokesperson, but he told every minister, every person
in a leadership role, every person who had something to
play in public, not to say anything about it. Well,
of course he wrote his speech to make sure that
he didn't say anything. And then of course after that

(12:03):
a person from the New York Times asked him about it,
and he just started, without thinking, he said, it's a
case of the chickens coming home the roof. Now, he
didn't necessarily mean to be disrespectful because the nation was
in mourning, but he was just definitely saying when you
look at what had happened, say, for example, after the
march on Washington August twenty, nineteen sixty three, when the

(12:28):
members of the Civil Rights movement went back to Birmingham,
four little girls were blown up there, and then you
had a number of incidents that happened. So he was
just speaking to the fact that there was a climate
of violence, you know, permeating the nation, and Kennedy became
a victim of that climate of violence and hate it
that existed of course, you know, Kennedy was a Roman Catholic,

(12:51):
and that was one thing that the Protestants really didn't like.
So some would say, well, you know that he was
a Roman Catholic, so he had, you know, something to
deal with from that standpoint. But anyway, he made the
statement and immediately he was suspended for ninety days from
the Nation of Islam. And when it became a parent
that he was not going to be allowed to return,

(13:13):
he gave a call a press conference and on March
the eight he declared his independence from his affiliation with
the Nation of Islam and established the Muslim Mosque Incorporated,
now the Muslim most incorporator was initially said to first
of all, teach Sooni Islam. Some people might say, you know, Orthodox,

(13:35):
the mainstream Islam, which is quite different from the teachings
of the Nation of Islam. The Nation of Islam has
a very strong black nationalist slaver and they are some
beliefs that are not consistent with the universal beliefs Islam,
which are baron witnesses, no gods, but Ala Mouhammad is last,

(13:55):
and find a messenger, praying five times a day. Regular
charity fastened than the Mansa Ramadan and this year Ramadan
is going to start on the fourth of April, and
then of course making the pilgrimage to Mecca, which he
did make. Uh So he wanted to establish that type
of Islam now. Of course, for his twelve years experiences

(14:17):
inside the Nation of Islam, he realized that the Nation
of Islam did have the right program, but it didn't
have the right you know, theology, and he wanted to
change the theology but maintain many of the programmatic things
such as you know, economic self reliance. And they had
sort of a three step program. And that three step

(14:38):
program was, you know, wake the people up to knowledge
it self and kind wake them up to their humanity.
Uh secondly, clean them up in terms of their vices.
And as you know, the Nation of Islam focused almost
exclusively on the brothers and sisters that were at the
bottom of the well. They're call them the lost bound

(14:58):
members of the nation of this life. Uh So, you're
talking about ex convict, drug addicts, prostitute, working class people
and lumping prolari. That was their main target group. The
civil rights movement, on the other hand, uh hated more
to people who went to church regardless of their class background.
They could have been a peasant in Missisi, uh, Mississippi

(15:22):
lumping polar proletariat and Birmingham working in steel meal. Uh,
you know, even lumping proletariat out of the street, you
know and coming you know, saying their way of life.
But they had this whole uh you know, middle class
will view and their strategy was one of integration where
the nation of this longe strategy was separation, but more

(15:44):
specifically one of economic self determination as opposed to being
dependent on white supremacist plantation capitalism. Okay, so uh, once
he left, and the next thing he had to do
was to establish some of the differ I see for
the new mom because in the beginning, very few mainstream

(16:07):
Muslim thought that the members of the nation long for
legitimate Muslim. So then he went to the Islamic Center
and there in New York he attended the Juma, and
he actually took to Shahata at the hands of doctor
Mamouwabbi and also El Hajaab the sounab.

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Us AND i Guess, doc you were.

Speaker 5 (20:00):
Kind of getting ready to get to your next, point
SO i was going to allow you to to go
to go, Ahead.

Speaker 9 (20:07):
Sola the next ONE i was about to make was,
that in order to legitimize his claim to being a Proper,
muslim he took To shahara and he said the following,
WORDS i bear, WITNESS i hereby declare THAT i am
a True. MUSLIM i bear witness that there is No
god but the law AND i bear witness That muhammad

(20:29):
is your possible law in this last Propet, now he
asked to wrote that. Out you, know you don't when
you take The, shahada you don't have to write it.
Out but because he had written a letter to become
A muslim with The nation Of, rislam he had that
idea THAT i need to write this down on piece
of paper and sign my. Name so Doctor shawabi took
that and they put a portfolio together in order for

(20:51):
them to make the. Hodge AS i, said his Ham
jabber was a witness and Doctor Mamu shiwabi was also a.
Witness he was in charge of The Islamic center there
In New york In, manhattan and he was also connected
with The Muslim World. League The Muslim World league is
pretty much a dour. Organization. Uh they're concerned about propagating

(21:15):
Proper islam across the. World they provide students with, scholarships et.
Cetera so he was working with that type of. Support
and in The, quran AS i said that the highs
is the fifth pillar Of. Islam and Then kurana says
and proclaimed the. Pilgrimage then let them complete the rights
prescribe for them perform their vowels and again ancient. House

(21:39):
so it was about going To haigen and Seeing muslims
of all. Backgrounds he saw a microcosm of the human,
family all of whom were in a part of the
The omar Of Brock muhammad of the world community Of.
Muslims so that calls him to start rethinking some of the. Idea,

(22:00):
now it just wasn't an epiphany or something miraculous that
happened when he made the. Hodge his mind had been
trending in that direction as early nineteen fifty nine when
he traveled abroad for the first time bearing the name
in his passport Of malik El, shabaz and his omission
there was to set up in a Tenerary Pynonymologia muhammad

(22:21):
to make The, umra which is the Lesser, hodge and
he set up the protocol trips To Saudi, rabia his
trips To pakistan and other. Areas But Elijah muhammad now
was thinking about changing the nation Of islam to the Property.
Islam he had a son that as our university, Doctor Ogbab,
muhammad who got his doctor's degree From edinburgh and for

(22:44):
many years he was a professor Of African History Islamic
studies At State university Of New york And bingham To New.
YORK i met him at The Vanderbilt university back in
the early seventies when he was director of The African
American studies. Program. There he, helped you, know to build that.
Program but he Left vanderbilt In nashville and then went

(23:07):
To New. York and then he had a young another
son by the name of A Waterstein, muhammad who was
also very astute in terms Of arabic and the. Front
and those two youngest sons were going to be very
instrumental in helping Anabologie muhammad to transition the nation Of
islam into mainstream or you, know Sni. Islam SO i wanted,

(23:32):
to you, know highlight, that but you asked me to
talk about the second organization AND i want to get
to the organization After American. Unity, now after he completed
the has he, made if you, will a second kilblement Throughout.
Africa he traveled to fourteen countries In africa and spoke
to at least fourteen heads of states in those. COUNTRIES

(23:55):
i started stampling ideas from people That Gamla Dam nasa In,
Egypt Uh kwame And kruma And, Ghana sekuta and Guinny
uh and other you know Leaders julisnri And, Tanzania Jomo
kenyata And, Kenya Uh Kenneth kaunda In. Zambia so he

(24:15):
was getting a sort of a. Picture now you have
to understand that Haj mlik was sort of brought up
as A. Dadya his parents Were. Gadya in other, Words halik's,
father The Reverend Earl little was To Marcus gaghi What
uh Hos mlik was To Honablijah Muhammad. So and also

(24:38):
his mother was the NATIONAL uh corresponding secretary for The
University Negro Improvement. Association so it was just a logical
vision for him to come out of A gadhia ground
and join you, know the nation of this. Month so
having said, that let's talk ABOUT uh the organization he.
Formed so after he traveled With, africa it went To.

(25:00):
Ghana that was people like the widow OF wb the
boys supposed to Be edi states THAT i. Mentioned so
now he signed a need to form a second, organization
and that is The organization Of Afro American, unity which
was pattern in The latin spirit of The organization Of
African union on The african continent and adds The Barber.

(25:23):
Ethiopia now in this scenario, here there were a lot
of people who wanted to be a part of the
new movement that he was, developing but they didn't want to,
take you how and Be muslims because many of them
had the image Of islam as a nation of This
lamb and they didn't want, that you, know they were

(25:43):
satisfied With, christianity or they were satisfied with being socialists
or statisfied with Being black, nationals Fan african and they
didn't want any part of somebody else's religion as. Such
so he figured that in order to create a united,
front so he could link up the, movement the human
rights movement that he was developing with the civil rights,
movement then he had to form another human rights, organization

(26:07):
which was an organization Of After American. Unity and some
of the people that who were founders Of Apter bailey
Doctor John Henry, Clark Sidney, Poitier Harry bellop Of Fonte
ruby d And Ozzie. Davis so he was able to
uh attract a lot of celebrities and intellectuals of course

(26:29):
he was operating you know there In, Harlem New. York
uh and uh he's working those those, individuous those. People
Uh so then of course once to form that, organization
then he uh started building it and he decided he
would make a second trip To. Africa this. Time when

(26:51):
he made the trip To, africa the idea was to
go there and be a part of an in gathering
Of african heads the states And, Cairo, egypt and also
the in gathering of leaders of the various liberation movements
in various parts Of. Africa now in nineteen sixty four sixty,

(27:11):
five you did have a significant number Of african countries
that were independent this. Time kenya was, independent Intendent ghana was.
Independent but you had countries like in the southern part
Of africa that was still fighting liberations fights like In
South Africa, Zimbobwe, Mosambique, namibia and conscious like. That but

(27:34):
significant other countries In West africa had become an, independent
especially In anglophone In africa And francophone In. Africa but
there was still you, know a suburbs for national. Liberations you,
know it was still going. On the idea here was
the organization After American unit as a human rights organization
was the first law Former United front within The United

(27:55):
states based on human. Rights elevates the civil rights movement
to the level of human rights and change the venue for.
Protesting rather than taking the case of The United States
Supreme court as a civil rights, issue he wanted to
take the issue to The World court of The United
nations as a human rights. Issue and then you once

(28:17):
you have human, rights you, know to understand human. Rights
just the audience will go back and, read, say The
declaration Of, independence that's the human rights. Document and one
of the famous quotes and The declaration Of independence is
we hold these truths to be stuff, evident that all
human beings are created, equal and doubt where they're created

(28:39):
a certain unasimable, rights that among, them a life lives
in the puit of, happiness if you can grasp. That
and also the idea of taxation without. Representation those, are you,
know human rights. Claims because it's the time that The
declaration Of independent was, penned they were talking about trying
to come from under the colonial soul of you, know

(29:01):
of The British. Empire And hazemlik also saw the flight
Of African americans as an example of domestic. Colonialism he
was trying to translate our plight in The United states
in a language that was. Universal so in other, worlds
on The african continent and The caribbeans in The South,

(29:21):
america they were raising decolonization. Struggles they were national struggles
to decolonize their country From, portugal From, spain From, england
and From. France the same way he was telling us
that we Got we came out of childle slavery in

(29:41):
eighteen sixty, five but we were not free even though
we had the thirteen fourteen and. Member we went from
child slavery to domestic. Colonization so many of us went
back to the same, plantations to aunt, sicking doing child
flavory and became. Carecroppers so that was for the colonials.

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Com welcome back To Justice watch With Attorney Zulu ali
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Dr Amir yasin El.

Speaker 4 (33:29):
Hadid and before we, CONTINUE.

Speaker 5 (33:32):
I know we're somewhere around the bottom of the, hour
BUT i do just want everybody who's, listening and, Actually,
doc we got quite a few people that actually are
that are chiming in and WHEN i say chiming, in
actually listening to the, conversation both on air and in social.

Speaker 4 (33:48):
Media BUT i.

Speaker 5 (33:48):
Do want to remind everyone that we're listening to you,
know as far As i'm, concerned he's the, foremost foremost
scholar On MALCOLM x L hodje Malik elship and just
SO i can remind everybody that you, Know Doctor ilhdid
is a founder and first chairperson of The African Studies
department At Tennessee State. University he is also the founder

(34:10):
AND ceo of The Great Debate Honor Society, incorporated WHICH
i had the pleasure of being involved, in and The
Great Debate Academy incorporated. Again he earned his PhD in
sociology from The university Of california At Santa barbara and
A ba in psychology and sociology From Alabama State. University
he co Authored Between cross And Crescent Crescent christian And

(34:33):
muslim perspectives On malcolm And martin with Doctor LEWIS. V,
baldwin who is a professor At, vanderbilt and DOCTOR. L.
Hahdid also served as president and member of the Editorial
board of The association Of social And Behavioral, Scientists. Incorporated
he is a member of The National council For Black
Studies incorporated and The association for The study Of Classical

(34:57):
African Civilizations.

Speaker 4 (34:58):
Incorporated.

Speaker 5 (35:00):
Uh Doctor hadid is a principal organizer of the Annual
african Of Muslim conferences During African American History month In, Nashville.

Speaker 4 (35:08):
Tennessee so we.

Speaker 5 (35:10):
Got we got a heavy, hitter so at any, rate
And i'm sorry about, That, doc BUT i just wanted
to make sure that everybody.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
Understood you know your.

Speaker 5 (35:19):
BACKGROUND i know we touched on it at the very,
beginning BUT i just want to, reiterate you, know your
expertise in your.

Speaker 9 (35:24):
Background, okay we got a thunderstone going on, here a
Nationally can you hear a kid ads in the.

Speaker 4 (35:30):
BACKGROUND i, CAN'T i. Can't you, doctor you don't hear.
IT i don't hear.

Speaker 9 (35:36):
It oh that's, good that's.

Speaker 6 (35:37):
Good.

Speaker 4 (35:39):
Okay so, anyway so you can just go ahead and.

Speaker 5 (35:42):
START i guess where you left, off BECAUSE i know
that that and just so that everybody gets an opportunity
to understand, that you will get an opportunity to Ask
doc some, questions you, know after this next. Segment but
at any, RATE i kind of want you if you
can't just continue where you left.

Speaker 9 (35:56):
Off, okay well our shortness of, there so get a
chance to start questions in the third. Segment but at
one to quote another quote From hodge Lak he, says
The koran compels The muslim will to take a stand
on the side of those whose human rights are being,
violated no matter what the religious persuasion of the victim.

(36:18):
Is islam is a religion which concerns itself with the
human rights of all, mankind despite, race color of. Creed
it recognizes all everyone as part of one human. Family
AND i want to keep on that baseline BECAUSE i
want the audience to understand That Hodge malik was first

(36:39):
and foremost A. Muslim he was A muslim to the,
bone to the, soul and His panafricanism was sort of
secondary to. That what was driving his, personality his will,
view his core, values his core, beliefs his. Thinking it Was, islam,

(37:00):
know The koran and the sooner From. Muhammad so he
sort of after elect the nation in this long because
of the fact that he had attacked so many None,
muslim especially those in the civil rights. Establishment you, know
they were a little jaded on, him and they were, thinking,
well you, know we don't want to deal with, him
because you, know he was really hard on us when

(37:22):
he was the nation this. Law but now he claims
that he's an international Universal. Muslim we're just gonna have
to take away and see attitude about. It and, so you,
know he was trying to turn the corner and really
present himself as a humanitarian rather than a zealot or
somebody who was thought of like fanatical about one point of.

(37:43):
View he became more open. Minded and one thing he
said when he left the nation of this long he,
said and talking to a group of young, people he,
said one of the first things that young people should
think for, yourself he, said once you farm in the
habit of, thinking you, know if you don't have to
have have it of thinking for, yourself you'll be going
west when you think you're going, east and you'll be

(38:04):
going east when you think you're going. West so he
was just started saying that he learned a hard lesson
because he's he participated in a movement where he had
blind faith and a charismatic, leader and he just never
thought that that charismatic leader was going to disappoint, him

(38:25):
and as it turned, out that charismatic leader did disappoint.
Him so he, said the young, people reserve your rights
for critical thinking and thinking for. Yourself now we'll go
back to the organization Of After American. Unity it was
indeed a human rights, organization and they had formulated a
petition and asking The United nations to Give African americans

(38:51):
release from the level of tyranny and violence that was
taking place at that. Time and, thinks you, know when
the people in the civil rights move were marching In,
birmingham they turned the dogs on, them you, know fire,
hoses and not only was that going, on lnsions was going,
on and all the people were trying to do was

(39:14):
get basic civil. Rights and they were also struggling to
register the vote and exercise their right to. Vote as
we pounted out, earlier after, slavery we were given the Fifteenth,
amendment which should have given us the right to. Vote
and then we were given the Thirteenth, amendment you, know the,

(39:35):
freedom and then the fourteenth men suld have been our,
citizenship but we come, in As Marin Luther king said
in The, margin wasn't one hundred years, later you, know
after the declaration Of, independence after The Civil war and
sixty three sixty, four we still did not have the
same human rights or civil rights that the average White american.

(39:58):
Had regardless, poor, rich working, class in middle, class we
didn't would have those. Rights you, know White americans were
had white, privilege and they were the ones that benefited
from those segregated areas of public, accommodations whether it was, restaurants, colleges, schools,

(40:20):
cemeteries any area of public, commodation you, know, transportation they
were a privileged. Group got on a, bus we had
to go to the back of the, bus we had
our own rest all that we had to drink from
a colored water. FOUNTAINS i can remember that growing up
as a child down IN aparti At, alabama drinking from

(40:42):
a water fountain that's said, colored going into a restroom
that's said, colored getting on the bus and going to
the back of the. BUS i was maybe about ten years, old,
man BUT i was old enough to remember that kind
of disrespect and that kind of, indignity and you just
something all. Less has to swallow pride because they tried
to make you feel like you were, invisible that you

(41:04):
were less than a human. Being and we thought that
one hundred years later the slavery was, over but the
stigma and the vestiges of slavery just didn't. Disappear so
we went from chattel slavery to. Plantation you, know capitalism
went from being chattel slave to a wage slave or

(41:24):
a salary slave if you, work you, know in a
job where you had a. Salary SO i want to
stop here and give the audience a chance to maybe
ask some questions and hopefully we can get a dialogue.

Speaker 13 (41:39):
Going thank you so much for this enlightening.

Speaker 10 (41:42):
Talk we've been looking at the comments throughout the, segment
and there's a lot of our viewers whom are.

Speaker 13 (41:46):
Interested one of the.

Speaker 10 (41:47):
Questions that really stood out was from one of our,
Viewers Jamil, hassan who's, saying you, know if we follow Mister,
malcolm would we have to say loudly That islam is
the only religion to? Follow say there, again he, asked
if we follow Mister, malcolm would we have to say
loudly That islam is the only religion to.

Speaker 9 (42:07):
Follow let me repeat WHAT i said. Earlier The koran
compels The muslim world to take a stand on the
side of those whose human rights are being, violated no
matter what the religious persuasion of the victims. Is islam
is a religion which concerns itself with the human rights
of all, mankind despite, race, color or. Creed it recognized

(42:30):
all everyone as part of one human. Family and AS
i was saying, earlier that was the reason that he
had to form the second, organization because people wanted to
work with him and join, him but they weren't prepared
to Become. Muslim for the first organization Was Muslim Most,
incorporated and that was to teach proper. Islama it was a,
mosque just like you, know you have a church that

(42:53):
Teach christianity to have a most to teach The. Slam
so he wasn't the people that are outside of who
are Non, muslim who didn't, want who didn't want to
convert this lamp where he formed the second, organization organization
Of After American, unity and you could join that, organization
but it was, primarily you, know For African, americans but
any progressive person with a progressive ideology was welcome to,

(43:15):
join you, know the Organization After American, unity and that had,
Nothing it was non. Secretarian it was not a secretarian.
Organization SO i hope that clarified.

Speaker 13 (43:25):
It, yeah. DEFINITELY i also had another.

Speaker 10 (43:28):
QUESTION i feel like usually in our school, systems we
are taught to Remember MALCOLM x as someone who was
really ahead of his. Time but would you say that
perhaps he wasn't ahead of his, time but rather that
he was the only one in the twentieth century that
could articulate the psychological power that white supremacist held over
people of. COLOR i, mean he clearly articulated what it

(43:50):
meant to internalize racism and all of these.

Speaker 13 (43:53):
Things what do you have to say about?

Speaker 9 (43:55):
That, WELL i think that the cause of This islamic.
Religion he was able to break outside the mental slavery
That European christianity had imposed on our. People you, know
when we came To america during the colonial period and

(44:16):
The antebellum period as challus, ladies as prisons. Before you,
know we didn't come over here At. Christians we came
over here As muslims and Practicing.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
Africa could you could you hold that real quick Dot
we're going to go to the.

Speaker 9 (44:30):
Director, oh come.

Speaker 4 (44:32):
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guest Doctor Amir yasin El. Hadid in our discussion on
the legacy Of MALCOLM x AND i think you were
finishing your point on that question That rosa just asked, You,

(48:01):
Doc did you want to start?

Speaker 9 (48:02):
There can you start to flam it?

Speaker 4 (48:06):
Again for?

Speaker 9 (48:06):
ME i want to make SURE i did give an,
answer BUT i just want to make sure that that
WAS i.

Speaker 4 (48:13):
THINK i think you did.

Speaker 5 (48:14):
IT i think the real answer that one was talking,
about you, know as far as you, know do you
do you have to be A? Muslim you? Know AND
i think that you hit on the fact that of
his whole. IDEA i don't want to take up too much, Time,
doc Because i'm telling you you just don't.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Know we got a lot of. QUESTIONS i, mean you really.

Speaker 5 (48:32):
Did and and, honestly since we've had this, show we've
got more questions today than we've ever. Had that's that's.
Amazing but, anyway, yeah BECAUSE i kind of want To
and that was kind of the interesting part is we,
all you, know we know that That malcolm kind of
is is a figure that people kind of mold into
what they want him to be at this, point and

(48:53):
as we talk about whether he was a, nationalist and
you hit on the fact that he was A, muslim
to the core and and the fact that he organized
organized A muzzlim Mass incorporated as well as the organization
Of African American, unity which was focusing on the fact
that there were other individuals that he wanted to be

(49:15):
involved with or get involved with that may not necessarily relate,
to you, know The islamic. Piece and and you know
what comes to mind when you talk about that is
is is When spike was doing the movie and you,
know you Had malcolm that was sitting ON i could
just see it, Now he's sitting on the arm of
his couch and he's, watching you, know all the things.

Speaker 4 (49:39):
That were going, on the brutality that was going on
in The.

Speaker 5 (49:42):
South and he also mentioned even at that point how
he wanted to get involved, with you, know people in
The south that were going through what they were going.
Through but but because of the restraints that he, had
because he had to fall, within you, know the alignment
of his of the, nation that he wasn't necessarily able

(50:05):
to do. That, SO i, mean AND i think that
that's something that people have to understand about About malcolm
was that we always think that all of a, sudden
just a light came up in his head but you,
know we also know that he was you, know he was,
coming even though it wasn't like he just went to

(50:27):
The hodge and just decided to become you, know he
knew what being A muslim was. Like we know that
he had actually didn't he go To mecca earlier to
prepare For umbra for If i'm not, mistaken was It
Elijah muhammad even before he actually even went To? Hodge
is that? Correct, Well i've.

Speaker 9 (50:46):
Heard two versions of the. Story one version said he
didn't go because he didn't want to be the first
one from the nation in just long to go To
meccan up. Stages. Leader NOW i think he did go Into.
Judice you AND i have both made The, hodge and
that's not going Into. Mecca jetta is where you stop
and then people make sure your credentials are in order

(51:08):
and then you can go uh and make The, hodge you,
know in terms of the tech of Precincts mecca And.
Medina SO i think he went To. Jedda he did
not go Into mecca Or. Medina all, Right but the thing,
is let me say this to the audience THAT i
know we have a limited amount of, time AND i
would encourage them to read our Book Between cross and

(51:32):
Creston Muslim christian perspectives Of malcolm And. MARTIN i co
authored this book With Martin Luther, king scholar whether by
the name of Doctor LEWIS. D. Bowen at the, time
he was in The divinity and The Vanity school At.
Vanderbilt they just studied At vanderbilt BECAUSE i was on
the facule Oft Tennessee State, university and he AND i

(51:53):
both From, alabama and we, decided, well you, know let's
try to see if we can write a book where
we can resolve this tension between the followers Of Modin
Luther king and the followers Of. Hosmileague and that was
the goal that we set for, ourselves to try to
synthesize their. Thinking and what we concluded is that they
both converged because that that their lines were running. Parallel

(52:17):
this is not unique to. THEM i mean that those
two schools of thought existed before they showed.

Speaker 4 (52:23):
Up you.

Speaker 9 (52:23):
Know it's the tensions they were between Do boys And BOOKER. T,
washington between Modern delaney And Frederick. Douglass so all through our,
history even going back to, slavery we had these two
schools of. Fought one group wanted to assimilate or you,
know or, integrate which was a Modin Luther king, school
and another group wanted to separate or, repatriate you, know

(52:47):
back To. Africa in terms of self. Determination the modern
And malcolm sort of represented the highest development of those
schools of thought that had been evolving as early as eighteen,
fifty maybe even before. That i'd see as far back
as eighteen, twenties because you, know that school of, thought

(53:07):
in collaboration With american colonization, society is what allowed us
to establish The republic Of. Liberia BUT i think the
POINT i was talking about before we stopped was the
fact That hodge And malice's mind was free of the
fetters of religious you, know religious slavery or psychological, slavery

(53:30):
And islam gave him the ability to free his mind
of mental. Slavery because the POINT i was making before
we went on the break was when we came over,
here none of us Were. Christians and as a matter of,
fact the plantation owners did not want us In christianity
because they figured that if we got Into, christianity we

(53:50):
were not going to be limited to leading The New.
Testament we were going to go into The Old testament
and identify With moses and his struggle to bring The
ebrews out Of. Egypt and they also put us in
a situation where we, couldn't you, know read and. Write
if you can't read and, write that means your mind
is not, free. Right and so when we came over,

(54:11):
here twenty five percent of us practice as long that,
is those are From Central africa And West. Africa the
rest of, them the other seventy five percent were practitioners
of different denominations of Traditional african. Religion you know what
we Call voodoo And haiti Or voodoo And New orleans
or we called the content blay in you, Know, Brazil,

(54:33):
santataria you know In.

Speaker 4 (54:35):
Cuba.

Speaker 9 (54:36):
Uh you know Traditional african religion where you have for
a libation to. Ancestors it's a kind of ritual that
we go through during the days Of kwanza where you're foreign,
libation you, know for ancestors and so. Forth so that's
those are religions that we. Practice and those religions were
connected with our ancestors and our kinship system or extended.
Families and when they brought us over, here they stripped

(54:58):
us our birth rights and stripped us about of our
human rights and then put us on the same level
as live. Stock you, know we were on the same
level as a cow or horse or a chicken channel
meaning property. Right. Uh so we had no civil rights
and haven't didn't have any human rights and either because

(55:21):
we were what de human nine, right so we didn't
have human. Rights SO i think, that, uh you, know
some people take different routes out of this spiritual slavery
that the you, know The European christians impolls on. Us
some of, us you, know Like James, cone you, know Nationalized,
christiana so you've Got Black christian nationalism or As Marvelus

(55:44):
king had the Social. Gospel. Uh and then of course
like The shrine of The Black. Madonna Marcus garby was
in The, christianity but he was talking about the sline
of the Black. Madonna and then a white black a
black and then those of us that went in the
path Of, islam we Left christianity and all together and

(56:07):
stile With. Islam now we have a spectrum in our.
Community some brothers inject nationalism Into, islam Like moury science
in The nation Of. Islam others resist the temptation to do,
that and there tend to be more mainstream or More,
sunni and then you have some that take it to

(56:29):
another level that could be like Sala fee Or. Shia
but the vast majority Of African american practitioners of what
we might Cause Sunni islam or mainstream Is law in
twenty twenty, one and that happened after Honormalogia muhammad died
and the man waters And muhammad came in and then
converted the followers of his father to Mainstream. Islam the

(56:53):
statistics some estimate that he was able to bring Into
islam as many as twenty Million African. Americans sometimes, sorry
not twenty but two. Mayes, WOW i wish we had
twenty million months from, no, MAN i do.

Speaker 5 (57:07):
Not we have about ten or fifteen, man, MAN i
wish we, man we run out of.

Speaker 4 (57:12):
TIME i cannot believe.

Speaker 9 (57:13):
That, please please dot come back because.

Speaker 5 (57:16):
We've got like a slew of questions here that we
wasn't able to get to and and LIKE i, SAID
i mean on our social media, site we've got more
people chiming in today than we've ever.

Speaker 4 (57:26):
Had, right. Unbelievable, MAN i can come.

Speaker 9 (57:29):
Back, uh you want to come back Back sunday another.

Speaker 4 (57:32):
Day so we can come back Next sunday if you want.

Speaker 9 (57:34):
To, okay we can follow up. That let me, apologize see.
You we'll come back next. Time that we're just made
ALMOST q AND. A i just give an open state
in the first segment and we'll get.

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You, okay all, Right thank you, Man thank you so
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