KCAA: Justice Watch with Attorney Zulu Ali (Sun, 22 Jun, 2025)

KCAA: Justice Watch with Attorney Zulu Ali on Sun, 22 Jun, 2025

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Okay, see a.

Speaker 10 (05:09):
Thank you for tuning in for this edition of Justice
Watch with Attorney Zulu Ali. I am Attorney Zulu Ali
with a Justice Watch crew Rose of New Ye's Michael
Blau Clark, Doctor Killed the sher.

Speaker 11 (05:19):
Anger Rohdeman Ryan Rhodes.

Speaker 10 (05:21):
This week, like every week, we'll be discussing criticals, legal
and social justice issues that are impacting our communities. This
week we'll be talking about the immigration policies, the ice
rays and the civil unrest and Los Angeles right now,
what's going on super producing?

Speaker 12 (05:45):
Oh my goodness, simmy.

Speaker 10 (05:47):
What's going on down there in LA? I mean, I
know that there's a lot of lot going on. I
guess we'll start there and then we'll back up and
talk a little bit about the policies. I guess that
that ignited all. Yeah, what do you think about that?

Speaker 12 (06:02):
Well, there's definitely some civil unrest due to the massive
deportations that have been added on by the Trump administration. Currently,
we know that this past weekend there's been a lot
of ICE activity in different communities around LA and you know,
it being a sanctuary city, sanctuary counties, that's definitely something
that sparked a lot of outrage, you know, between different

(06:24):
community members. And that's what we're seeing today. We're seeing
a lot of civil.

Speaker 11 (06:29):
Unrest, right that's your city now.

Speaker 4 (06:32):
Yeah, I saw the protest on the way up here,
and yeah, people are definitely angry and rightfully angry. But
I'm glad to see the resistance and the strong resistance
there is, like really people are uniting over this, and
I'm happy.

Speaker 11 (06:47):
I'm glad to see that. We'll say, you below, well.

Speaker 13 (06:52):
It's five minutes away for me, So I'm saying that
results of it, Man, the area in which you're getting
right now, it's not it's not a year for it
to happen over there. I mean, they basically they weaponized
themselves and it's not a good look as to what's
going on that Again, I don't think it's going to

(07:13):
be you know, peaceful outcome. It's not looking for it.

Speaker 10 (07:20):
Yeah, I mean, you know I think that. I mean,
for people who don't know what's happening right now, is
that there has been protests relative to the the policies
regarding immigration rates, detentions, and removal of individuals. And in
light of that, here, of course, la is supposed to

(07:42):
be a sanctuary city. However, the federal government is obviously
utilizing and abusing its power to go into places such
as schools, workplaces. They're actually going into courts, state courts,
as well as they're actually snagging people in actually immigration court,

(08:05):
you know, while they're going through their proceedings. So, I mean,
it's just it's just, you know, a lot going on,
especially after the President has granted asylum and refuge status
to people to white people in South Africa because allegedly
they are being mistreated and harmed in South Africa. And

(08:31):
and just to speak on that a little bit, I
think that there's been credible sources state that these primarily
are supposed to be farmers, right, and there's actually there
were a lot of black South Africans that were killed
during this this issue an incident. However, they're only allowing
certain individuals to come into the country. And so I

(08:54):
kind of just want to talk a little bit about
or give some reality to really what's going on with
the immigration issue in the United States. I know that
there's this idea that basically all these criminals are just
coming across the border, and that basically all these individuals
have have you know, avoided the legal process in order

(09:18):
to come into the country for the purposes of just
destroying our democracy right.

Speaker 11 (09:27):
Now.

Speaker 10 (09:28):
I mean, the issue with immigrants coming into this country,
the first and foremost is that it's probably one of
the most hypocritical policies that we've ever had. And the
hypocrisy comes from the fact that, you know, that's how
the country was started was through immigration, and obviously it

(09:48):
wasn't lawful immigration because it was, for the lack of
better term, it was an invasion of taking over someone
else's country. And actually a lot of the individuals who
are being who are being excluded, are actually individuals who
lived on this continent before the arrival of the Europeans.

(10:10):
So let's just go there. And when you look at
the immigration policy, at least up until nineteen sixty five,
probably anywhere from eighty five to ninety percent of the
immigrants that actually came into the United States were from Europe.
Nineteen sixty five, I think, probably somewhat piggybacking changes to

(10:32):
the Immigration and Nationality.

Speaker 11 (10:33):
Act as well as.

Speaker 10 (10:37):
And a lot of the changes to immigration actually piggybacked
the Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty four. And so
you have more individuals who have come to the United
States for different reasons, but primarily reasons that are akin
to the reasons that Europeans came here.

Speaker 11 (10:55):
They came here to avoid.

Speaker 10 (10:58):
Humanitarian issue shoes that may exist in that existed in
their country, seeking a better life. And that's what many
of these immigrants, if not all of them, ultimately came
here to the United States seeking the same thing that
the Europeans actually came the Europeans such as Donald Trump's
family as as well as his wife. And so, you know,

(11:24):
I think that now that we're looking at we're trying
to figure out Okay, So, I mean, I know that
people have developed, you know, through some a lot of
it is ignorance about their idea that the immigrants are
coming to this country and they're taking the jobs, they're
basically committing crimes, they're doing all of these negative things.

(11:44):
But to basically take this broad brush and paint all
immigrants as being the same individuals is very ignorant. For
the lack of a better term, and so, and that's
kind of how they've they've they've done that, and so
there's also this whole issue you got to figure that

(12:04):
what as far as the numbers of immigrants that are
in the United States today, we're looking at a number
of approximately what forty eight forty nine million in the
United States of immigrants in this country, and many of
those individuals, obviously are from Some of them are actually

(12:26):
from Europe, you know, Canada, different parts of Europe, who
obviously there is not the same type of enforcement against
those individuals as they are from people from Latin America, Mexico,
as well as Asia and some other places. I mean,
I think it's a lot it's primarily focused on brown

(12:51):
people and black people. I mean, that's kind of what
they're doing. And you know, as far as the policy,
so this is kind of so that we can understand
how immigration works. I mean, basically, there are individuals who
come into this country. Some of them come with inspection,
some come without inspection. Some have been here from twenty
thirty forty years. Some of them were actually brought here

(13:14):
as children by their parents in this country.

Speaker 11 (13:18):
So I mean it's you know, there's so many.

Speaker 10 (13:21):
Some of them have served in the military, some of
them want to serve in the military. But the whole
idea of the fact that these individuals are just coming
to the United States to destroy our country, then you
know that's just completely untrue.

Speaker 11 (13:39):
Right, Were you getting ready to say something?

Speaker 12 (13:41):
Yeah, I mean we've seen it throughout history, right when
we talk about Latinos in this country, right where they're
at as just in general as a group, Right, there's
thirty six million eligible voters as of twenty twenty four.
It's the fastest growing voting block in battleground states. Not
to mention, Latinos were one of the ones that helped

(14:02):
flip states like California, like Arizona, and Georgia. They contributed
three point two trillion GDP to the US, larger than
India itself. They represent over twenty five percent of the
US labor force. Right, and if when we think about
new businesses opening up in the United States, Latinos account
for fifty percent of those new businesses opening up.

Speaker 4 (14:22):
Right.

Speaker 12 (14:23):
So, when we look at history, any time that a
minority group has tried or has attempted to really meddle
with right or meddle with just in general, the primary
white supremacist agenda, White nationalist agenda, then there's retaliation. Right,
when we talk about the reconstruction area, the reconstruction era,

(14:44):
we had Jim Crolaws with Black Americans. When we talk
about Chinese Americans, right, we had the Chinese Exclusion Act.
When we talk about Mexicans as well, back in the
nineteen fifties, we talk about Operation Wetback, which is similar
to what we're seeing nowadays. So when we see any
group in history, right, any minority group that is really
trying to kind of tip over right the scale of

(15:06):
maybe becoming a majority in any sort of sector in
the United States, and that's when we have retaliation. And
I think that's what we're seeing today, definitely.

Speaker 8 (15:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (15:16):
And I think also another part of that is just
the importance of like, well, well yeah, the importance of
just like narratives, you know, and preaching these narratives towards
certain groups of people. You know, you realize as time
goes on that not as many people are as educated
on these topics as you would like to think. So
when you have you know, the President, when you have
you know, these people on Fox News and major news

(15:38):
outlets preaching these ideas that these people are taking your jobs,
and their you know, criminals and rapists and things like that.
Like more people are not are going to listen to
those things and actually do the research to figure out
what's actually going on. And unfortunately you see that play
a major part in things that we're seeing like today.

Speaker 13 (15:58):
Yeah, and then the sad reality is people are feeding too,
you know, all the negativity that the media is stuffing out.
It's just like the other day where they went to
home depot. You know, these individuals are sitting there trying
to make an honest omission, you know, And I just
don't understand how people feed into this and they realize

(16:22):
how much they're commonly you know, a need, there's a need,
you know, and that to paint people as as as criminals,
as cartel memos and stuff in order to you know,
to achieve the agenda. I just think that you know,
people are are kind of like figuring out, you know,

(16:45):
because they know what Trump's agenda is. But I think
that that we're missing a big picture because I think
it's it's something bigger going on behind us, and that
that this is all intentional, and I think that it's
not going to end right, Yeah.

Speaker 10 (17:01):
Is going to say something, Yeah, so I mean I
think that yeah, and there's a bigger I mean, the
human rights violations that go along with all of this
is something that kind of tends to not make it
self to the forefront. I mean, what you have in
many of these cases, especially when you're talking about families.
You know, oftentimes you have US citizen children, many of

(17:24):
them who are are minors, or even babies who have
US citizen not US citizen, but undocumented parents. And then
you begin to start, you know, what do you do
about that? I mean, is it really the way to
go about just detaining someone or expeditiously removing this individual

(17:47):
and rating and taking I mean, there is no there's
no urgent situation to any of this. I mean, these
things can be allowed, the d process to go through,
allow these individuals to be able to you know, we
during the Obama administration, and he was used in this

(18:10):
executive order because obviously they wouldn't do anything with Congress
when he was in office, right, and you know, we
have DACA, which is a program that allows children who
came to the United States at a certain age to
be able to at least get a work permit and
stay in the country without being removed. He also was

(18:31):
in the process of doing what was called DAPPA. Now
this was something similar, however, this was for the parents
of US citizen children who could also utilize a program
that would allow them to do, for the lack of
a better term, earn you.

Speaker 11 (18:49):
Know, status.

Speaker 10 (18:51):
It excluded individuals who had been convicted of certain crimes,
specifically aggravated felonies or crimes that were considered to be
crimes of moral alterpretive. So the individuals that would be
benefiting from these programs would not be individuals who were,
you know, engaged in any type of unjust or who

(19:14):
were engaged in any kind of criminal activity. What also is
a problem with what they're doing is, you know, these
detention facilities that they're utilizing, people are being abused, being
abused by ICE agents, being subjected to you know, what
do we do about those individuals. I mean, just because

(19:37):
someone is not here, is here undocumented, then it does
not just like anyone that's accused of something that it
does not justify them to being treated inhumanely. And I
think that what happens is that you know, it puts
a black eye on America for the world to see

(19:57):
that we're mistreating human beings just simply because they came
into our country looking for a better life, which is
what's going on with the majority of these individuals, and
they just have not been able to get their status
for one reason or another. And it's not easy. It's
a very difficult and it's a very long process that

(20:18):
these individuals have to go through. And the Immigration and
Nationality Act needs to be modified and changed that would
allow people more of an opportunity to earn their citizenship.

Speaker 11 (20:34):
You know.

Speaker 10 (20:34):
And there's no reason to raid and take someone into custody.
There's another way that you can do it. Unless it's individual,
is someone who is you know, has committed some sort
of criminal offense, then why not give them like they
cite them, give them a court date and give them
an opportunity to address their issues without making things difficult

(20:56):
for them or separating these children who are taking away
from now we're you know, we're talking about criminals.

Speaker 11 (21:03):
So now you're taking a child. In many of these.

Speaker 10 (21:08):
Places that they put some of these children, a lot
of these children are being subjected to rape, you know,
the mental torture of taking a child away from their
parents who basically is doing nothing except working to try
to make a better life for their child. And you know,
there's nothing wrong with that, you know what I mean?

(21:29):
I think that we all there's not a human being
that let's just assume, and you know, we might be
fleeing the country one of these days with in light
of what we've been going through with our president. And
you know, anybody is going to do whatever they can
to feed their family. And as long as someone is
tried to try in some way, somehow to make a

(21:51):
legitimate live and to feed their family, then you know,
how much can you condemn them for that? And in
many cases, that's really all they're trying to do. They're
trying to come They got families, they're trying to feed
their families. They're trying to take care of their wives,
they're trying to take care of their children, and we're
demonizing them in a way that we shouldn't for you know,

(22:14):
for that reason, we got people who really are committing
criminal offenses that aren't even being treated the same way
that these individuals are being treated. You know, again, no
matter what side of the fence you are on this issue,
I think that you you know, any degree of humanity
would have to agree with the fact that these individuals
should be able to get some sort of due process

(22:34):
without going and taking a child out of school, or
without without going out and taking some snatching somebody from
their job, or without you know, going to you know,
court where somebody hasn't been convicted, but just simply because
they have to be in court and snatching them up
at court.

Speaker 11 (22:50):
It's just not the right way to do things.

Speaker 10 (22:52):
I mean, I think that if you take a moment
and you look at the optics of what's happening in
this process, it will mind you of a country that
was doing certain things or countries that we're doing certain
things that we would that any rational person would consider
to be inhumane. And that's the issue that we got

(23:15):
going on right now. With the way that they're doing it.
They're completely they're doing it wrong, I mean, and it
is what it is. There's absolutely nobody that's saying, hey,
I want somebody to come over here that's going to
be a rapist or robber or a murderer. Right, nobody
wants a rapist, robber, or murderer. But we we give rapists, robbers,

(23:36):
and murderers due process our presence, you know what, I mean,
I mean and that, yeah, you got to look at
it like that, so you know, so again, I mean,
I just think that you know, we just we you know,
we drank the kool aid too easy in this country
and and they've dumbed us down so that whenever we

(23:57):
hear a narrative, we just jump on it without read,
you know, without reading and trying to understand what's going
on for ourselves.

Speaker 12 (24:06):
Definitely, and I think that's what's lacking critical thinking. I
think with social media and so many voices right wanting
to have our ear, I think that's definitely something that
you know, we see the effects of, especially with what's
happening and all the narratives that are being put out there.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Yeah, yeah, critical critical thinking and empathy, lack of empathy. Yeah,
I think that we as you know, the last I mean,
it's been this way for a while, but for sure,
I would say the last four to eight years with
like you know, the Trump administration and just that situation,
like we just are angrier now, we're angery others at
each other, We're more divisive, and I feel like, you know,

(24:45):
this is a major part of that, because you know,
you were talking about humanity and just like seeing other
people get you know, families getting ripped up and all
those type of things, and there seems to be a
lot of people who just don't care about those things.
And it's just like unfortunate that we've gotten to a
point where you can see some of the worst, more
most heartbreaking things happening, and you know, you turn your

(25:06):
eye to it, you turn your head to it. And I'm,
you know, I'm worried about that as far as the
future goes, because I really don't know, you know, for
this new generation, they seem a lot more numb and
just you know, I don't know, they just don't really
care about, you know, the people next to them as
much as they they should. Community is being lost in
that way.

Speaker 10 (25:28):
I think that what happens is I think that sometimes
you know, you know, history repeats itself, and sometimes unfortunately
we don't learn from history. And I'm i'm you know,
the the issue that I have outside of the fact
that you know, I don't want I don't want us

(25:49):
to lose. I want the president to do the right thing.
I want our government to do the right thing. I mean,
we all want what is right. Because I think that
what's on the other side.

Speaker 11 (25:59):
Of this is that we're creating.

Speaker 10 (26:06):
Our demise, and I think that we don't understand it until.
Like I mean, you know, you can call it karma,
you can call it whatever you want. But I think
that eventually, you know, as my kids, as one of
my kids used to say when they were very small, Daddy,

(26:28):
they gonna get it. When they get it, they're gonna
get it good. And you know that's what happens. I mean,
I don't think that these individuals. We also talked about
the fact that I believe that there are when you
were talking about seeing the demographics of the country change,
and all of this is centered around make America great again,
where we're going back to this situation where people are

(26:49):
fearful of a country that clearly is changing in a
way that is going to be different. I mean, we
talk about people who, you know, we're out, you know,
the minorities meaning which you will soon be the majority,
are outpacing with with bird with population and and and

(27:10):
soon you will see the majority become the minority. And
there's people who are are deathly concerned with that. And
you know people you heard different stories about. I heard
this thing with Dave Chappelle when he said that a
star was born. When they was having a discussion with
Hillary Clinton during the debates, when they talked about the

(27:34):
issue of tax codes, and you know how he was
going to help his rich and friends become you know,
more wealthy. But when he became when he became the
front runner, was the day that he said he was
going to build a wall. He hit a nerve with people,

(27:54):
because that's what people are concerned about. They are concerned
with the demographics of this country changing and that maybe
one day it may not be a country where people
perceive themselves to have a privilege. And all of this,
whether you're talking about the abortion issue, whether you're talking
about like all these major issues are all centered around

(28:15):
like DEI immigration, you know, all those things are centered
around a like a backdoor supremacist you know, agenda.

Speaker 11 (28:28):
You know what I mean.

Speaker 10 (28:29):
So why what why would you, as a president of
the United States, you know, make it, make it part
of your agenda or priority to get rid of diversity
or any type of education has to do with African
Americans and minority people. What what would be the purpose
of that. The second thing is, why would you be

(28:51):
so concerned about an immigration policy that's not going to
really change. You know, they're not going to be able
to do what they They don't even have as much
as people think they have the resources, they don't have it.
They don't have a resources to deal with this policy.
And generally it's for optics more than it is for

(29:12):
anything else, you know. So you know when you look
at all these things that that they're doing, some of
the things he wants to do as far as policing
as it relates to you know, police abuse, police abuse
in their powers, all these things.

Speaker 11 (29:27):
The same thing with Roe v.

Speaker 10 (29:28):
Wade it you know, it's all a plot to make
at least the individuals who are concerned, which is apparently
a lot of people concerned about the demographics of this
country changing. And it's like a train and they're doing
everything they can to stop it. And he's the guy
that they're putting in to try to stop the train.

(29:51):
And you know, I know this is another note. Then
you got him in Elone, didn't we say him and
Elon was going to have a problem inable inevitable uhh,
I mean I knew that was getting ready to happen,
you know what I mean, White on white crime, right, Yeah, sure,

(30:12):
I mean they yeah, they getting ready to go. They
going at it bad anything, Yeah, he said he got
And you know it might be a problem for you're born,
which one Elon.

Speaker 11 (30:24):
Musk might be a problem for you born. I just
stay the opposite.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
I mean, I don't know what Elon had information Elon
has access to Also, he seems kind of a wild card,
so I don't know.

Speaker 11 (30:35):
Yeah, better put a noose on him.

Speaker 10 (30:39):
He better wake up in the morning with a with
a horse head in his bed like on The Godfather.
If you want to see him up. That looked like
that might be a problem, you know. So I mean
it is just seen, you know. And the thing is
that basically on one hand, you know, I think that
sometimes I look at it from perspective, you know, I mean,

(31:02):
there's a lot of anger, and I understand the anger.

Speaker 11 (31:04):
There's a lot of emotion. I understand emotion.

Speaker 10 (31:06):
Because people, as we speak, their lives are being turned
upside down, both you know, children and families. But at
the same time, you know, it's sad that people are
that heartless. That's what the sad part is because that's

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really you know the fact that you have people that
are that heartless and no matter what you say to them.
And in my religion, there's actually an ayet that talks
about you know, when you put available person's eyes and
ears and no matter what you say to them, they'll

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never understand it. And we're just dealing with people who, unfortunately,
they can't understand humanity. And that's a sad situation because
you know, the and you know, we see those people
you like, you know, no matter what you say to them,
they can never you know, it would be you think
that all I would have to do is tell you that, hey,

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this is a child and and there you know, their
their family, they're gonna be separated from their family. It
would make any human being stop, you know, in their
tracks and be concerned about you know, I'm gonna do.
I don't want to see children in a situation like that, right,
and how can we figure it out?

Speaker 11 (32:37):
But we don't.

Speaker 10 (32:38):
We don't even have those we we we have people
in power that don't even have the ability. And you know,
and I hate to say that, I just feel like
they don't have the ability to comprehend humanity. I think
that they're they're diabolical, and you know, they're like the
vampires and sinners.

Speaker 12 (32:58):
Well, yeah, because the way in which they came to
power wasn't humane itself. I mean, you think about the
United States and why it's you know, an empire, massive
genocide everywhere, and what we're doing here today is what
we do in other countries.

Speaker 11 (33:14):
Yeah, I know. Yeah. Are the chickens coming home the
roost belong?

Speaker 12 (33:21):
Uh?

Speaker 13 (33:22):
I don't know, you know, not a question. Do you
think that the way he's going about is do you
think he's purposely going about it this way to create
some form of chaos? Because he's just released a report
where he's saying that he ordered the two Thousand Truths
because for the next thirty days ICE is going to

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be in Californite and that any politician interfere with it,
they will be held account them. And I'm looking at
the fact that he's aiming at California and the way
that he's doing it, and I'm just wondering if there's
something behind his agenda, you know, to create this chaos
or he just then have this dictatorship mindset.

Speaker 10 (34:09):
I think he has a dictatorship monster. I think something
is you know, is wrong with him for sure. I mean,
I really don't think that he's capable of under I mean,
what I'm saying is like, look, as I said before.

Speaker 11 (34:27):
That America.

Speaker 10 (34:29):
I mean, I think that we got got it twisted
when we come when it comes to understanding America. I
think that what we have to realize is that America
became at some point in time, it was starting to
become a great nation. And the reason why America was

(34:52):
becoming a great nation is not the reason why he
believes it became a great nation. It became a great
nation because of the same people that he's condemning, like
black people.

Speaker 11 (35:10):
And what we did to I mean.

Speaker 10 (35:12):
Look, there's a reason why other people start coming to
the United States after nineteen sixty five, there's a reason
only Europeans was primarily coming to the United States, or
at least the largest number of people coming to the
United States were Europeans. All of the things that we
have in this country and the real idea of it

(35:39):
being the land of hope and opportunity was that people
died in foreign lands and people died in the streets
of this country to try to make America understand that
we wanted to be treated equally, and through that process,

(36:00):
the Civil Rights Acts and different things that people went through,
and people that were being hunged, and people that we're
being killed, and people that were being drug out of
their houses, and for people just being killed just for
setting that lunch counters. These people had this idea that
they wanted to be treated like a regular assistant citizen

(36:20):
and not a second, third, or fourth or no citizen
all citizen at all. That's how America. That is the
idea of America. Now, that's the America that I enlisted
in the Marine Corps and that I fought for, right,
that's the America that I see, And that's the great
America that say, look, you know, we fought for this house.
This is not just your house. This is my house too.

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And there's people who fought for this house. And you
cannot come up and say, hey, I'm making America great again,
because this don't belong to you, right. This belonged to
us because we did something to get where we are, right,
not just you right. And so I think that's where
he gets it twisted. Now he's still in the house.

Speaker 11 (37:07):
It is not his house.

Speaker 10 (37:09):
They stole the house to begin with. But we're trying
to We tried to make things fair and make things
equal and try to literally make it make it live
up to its ideas and its promises. Right, That's that's
what we did. And now you have people who are
coming in and they're basically trying to rob.

Speaker 11 (37:30):
Us of our home.

Speaker 10 (37:33):
Like I mean, let me make it, make it perfectly clear,
and I'm gonna make it really really clear. Right now,
this is not your house, right, yeah, I mean, just
understand that this is not your house, and we can
have that conversation and I can talk to you at
anytime any place wherever you want to.

Speaker 11 (37:52):
This is not your house, right. You just came in here, right.

Speaker 10 (37:57):
So the idea that they make us feel like it
doesn't belong to us, and let's make America great again.

Speaker 11 (38:03):
It belongs now. It don't belong to.

Speaker 10 (38:05):
You, right, you know what I mean, I'm like, g money, right,
you didn't do this Isshue by yourself, right, So you know,
we have to make sure that we make you know,
don't make them feel like you cannot feel like.

Speaker 11 (38:18):
A stranger in your own home.

Speaker 10 (38:21):
Right, And so you know all this that you're doing,
I mean, it's just like I mean, you know, and
it's it's amazing because you see you know the worst
thing and I and we talked and allow me and
you and Rose have heard me to say it before.
The worst thing that you can do is give a
nobody power because nobody will always destroy it. That is,

(38:46):
it never fails. Right, And he needs power. This is
this is what makes him exist. He needs it, right,
And and the reason why he's doing it is because
if if you if you don't, if you know how
to deal with power, if you are somebody, it's easy
to get people to follow you.

Speaker 11 (39:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 12 (39:08):
Right, Yeah, you're spot on. Like I said before, I mean,
and like I've heard it said. You know, borders, you know,
we didn't cross borders. Borders crossed us. You know, they
stole Arizona, they stole California, they still New Mexico. We're standing,
We're all standing on our land, you know, like it
belongs to all of us. And not only that, but

(39:29):
to that extent of what you're talking about power, right,
I think these policies, these border policies are are about
control and specifically why California. Right, we know California as
one of the most liberal states in the Union. Right,
So I think he's really trying to implement the shock
and awe doctrine that we've heard before where he's trying

(39:49):
to destabilize, so almost almost like a theater right for
the nation to see, this is what can happen to
you should you not follow what I'm trying to tell
you to do. I don't care if you're in California.
I don't care if you're in Texas. I don't care
what state you're in. But this is a shock and
awe aspect to to to doing things and gaining power
in disciple state, stabilizing us so much that we believe

(40:13):
that we don't have power in community, that we believe
that we don't have power to retaliate.

Speaker 11 (40:19):
That's true. I mean, yeah, that's that's it's agenda.

Speaker 10 (40:22):
I mean, he he definitely loves that that power. I mean,
like I said, I mean, he's really and you know
it's like it's like the same thing, right, it's it's
it's it never fails that you have some I mean,
what has he ever really done? He said, his daddy
only gave him like a few million dollars to get started.
So he's a self made man, you know, how self

(40:43):
You know what I mean, I mean, it is it
is what it is I mean you can, I can.

Speaker 11 (40:47):
I can tell you.

Speaker 10 (40:48):
I can tell a mile away who you really are
whenever I deal with I mean, it's just like I mean,
being a lawyer and looking at judges, I can tell
by the way a judge judge acts whether there's somebody
or not, because I mean, you know, you make the robe.
The robe doesn't make you. You make the office. The
office doesn't make you. And it's the same thing with everything.

(41:08):
We just have nobodies that come to power and then
they do these sort of things.

Speaker 11 (41:14):
Right, you know, it's just like you know, I just
be honest.

Speaker 10 (41:19):
I mean, just think about the fact that nobody in
his entire family has ever served in a military right,
and to look at the way that he treats his commanders, right,
look at the way that he talked about John McCain.

Speaker 11 (41:35):
You can think what he I mean, John McCain.

Speaker 10 (41:36):
I mean, I obviously don't believe in his politics, but
the last thing I would do is disrespect his military service.
And the fact that you would do that, and now
that shows you the different type of class of person.

Speaker 11 (41:47):
Then there's there's there's serious serious.

Speaker 10 (41:50):
As he said himself, I have fundamental differences between Barack Obama.
But he's a great American who I just have differences with. Now,
John McCain was a prisoner of prisoner of war who
basically was heroic in the manner in which he conducted
himself when he served. Now, is it as an accident
that he said something like that about Barack Obama and

(42:11):
that that Trump said that that Baraco, that Barack Obama
was not even a US citizen, and disrespecting him and
disrespecting his wife, and then we cool with that. So
so we're going to allow this man that disrespected a
war hero, a military hero, and but were cool with

(42:32):
what he said about Colin Kaepernick, Right right, we're not
you know, we're mad at Colin Kaepernick, but we're not.
But what we're what, we're cool with what he said
about John McCain. I've said that over and over and
over again, that should have just shot at either. Well,
there's only one person that should be happy that, uh, John,
that Donald Trump is the president of the United States,

(42:54):
and that's George Bush. The second one, because before Trump
came in the office, we thought that George Bush was terrible.
Now George Bush is like, dude, I say, you know what,
I'm saying, you know, so it's just it's just crazy.
I mean when you see this stuff play out. But
I think sometimes we have to back up, we have

(43:15):
to understand and we have to see who's who who
we have this? That's that's a nobody. He has to
do whatever he can to show his power. You know
what I mean, that's you know, just think about someone
you know, I've been around.

Speaker 11 (43:28):
People like that.

Speaker 12 (43:29):
Oh yeah, Like what they say in security is loud, confidence.

Speaker 10 (43:33):
Is quite absolutely And so that's that he's and that's
exactly who he is.

Speaker 4 (43:38):
Yeah, So I have a question for you guys, like
as we I mean, it's crazy, we're only six months
into this presidency. He got a long way to go.
How how in this new i mean, his second term,
are we going to deal with this nobody being in office?
Like as he's you know, just using his power in

(44:00):
this way, what's the best way to go about dealing
with him?

Speaker 10 (44:03):
I think that what, you know, what's happening in our country,
and it's unfortunate, but I believe that our country is
going to begin to start spiraling out of control. I
think we're going to begin to lose our status as
a superpower. Nobody looks up to us anymore. We saw

(44:24):
when he went to the was it the funeral of
the Pope? Yes, And we saw how how the other
country reacted to him. But how how some of the
other leaders, are heads of state, were treated because you know,
it's like, you know, what he's done is he has

(44:44):
basically destroyed.

Speaker 11 (44:49):
The legacy of the country. Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 10 (44:52):
I mean, and you know, to the extent that we
had other countries that were envious of us. I think
that there are out those up there that wanted to
see us fall that says he's the perfect guy. Yeah
you know what I mean. I mean, he's really the
guy that we need to be in office because he's
basically and then you know, and what's crazy. This is
what I used to add, and I said this before,

(45:14):
you know, when I was a kid, I used to
ask myself this question.

Speaker 11 (45:18):
I used to say, after we saw roots.

Speaker 10 (45:21):
I know, you guys may not ever seen roots because
y'all kind of young, But I would say.

Speaker 11 (45:27):
How did I understood.

Speaker 10 (45:29):
That there were people who own slaves? But I'm like,
how could so many people allow that to happen? It
just blew me away. I'm like, how did these people
allow that institution to happen. I mean even as a
little kid. And now I know because I see what
they're doing, what these people are doing in support of

(45:49):
Donald Trump exactly. So it's like, okay, so now I see,
I see exactly what's up?

Speaker 11 (45:55):
You see what I mean?

Speaker 10 (45:56):
And then the thing about it is is that basically
the only way that that you can really honestly accept
the fact that America was becoming a great nation is
you have to have some degree of forgiveness and redemption.
If you did not believe in forgiveness and redemption, there's

(46:17):
absolutely no way that you could consider America a great nation.
That would have to be part of the agenda. Yeah,
but now what we're seeing is America is the most
unforgiven country that you could be in, right, I mean,

(46:37):
these people, it's like, okay, so everybody is into punishing,
but when until you start talking about, well, America has
a debt to pay, right, and one day they're gonna
pay it, you know what I mean?

Speaker 11 (46:53):
I mean, nobody gets away never, right, you see what
i mean. I'm just I'm like, is it Michael Corleone?

Speaker 10 (47:03):
Every time I try to get out, man, they pulled
me back in.

Speaker 11 (47:07):
Nobody gets away.

Speaker 10 (47:08):
Man, when you got dirt on your hands like that,
you know it's gonna come to pass, man, you know,
I mean one day. And and the thing is that, basically,
this is the sad part about America is we had
our chance.

Speaker 11 (47:23):
Man.

Speaker 10 (47:24):
It's like when someone says there and tell you were
you know, it's like you had this you you had
a chance to be the greatest nation in a lot
for a very long time. And now you know, uh,
you know, God only gives so many opportunities. And now
what you're gonna do is you're going to destroy it.

(47:49):
You just basically took everything and you're destroying it. And
you've been given that opportunity. God shows his hands in
so many different ways. He even showed us during what
was it called the back in twenty twenty we had
what was the COVID, you know God gave. God was like,
look let me show you my power. Sure, I'm gonna

(48:12):
shut this ish down right everything, And that's what he did.
I'm like, oh man, you know, God's really you know,
like whoever thought they say I can shut you down,
you down?

Speaker 11 (48:23):
You can't do nothing.

Speaker 10 (48:25):
I shut down Vegas, right, I shut down everything. I'm
gonna make you go inside, and I'm gonna sit here
and let the world watch, right, this terrible, diabolical act.
Everybody sitting home, they watched George Floyd right, the whole
world saw what we're doing. And instead of us taking that,

(48:49):
it's an opportunity to say, God controls everything, and God
is giving you a chance. Then what did we do?
As soon as he let his knee off of our neck?
Then what do we do? Go right back and do
the same thing. And you know, I think that people
just they forgot about it. And he was a president
at the time. Yes, you see what I'm saying. He

(49:12):
got into the president. He's like, let me just shut
this down because I know what he's doing. I know
what type of person he is, so let me really
expose it and shut it down before it could even
even get worse. Right, literally, he shut us down. Who
would ever think that that could happen. Didn't nobody invade us,
didn't nobody come and do anything to you? He said,

(49:34):
may get your butt back in the house, and you're
gonna stay there, and I'm not gonna let anything happen
until you realize it. And then you know, God gives
you a sign. You know, we think God gives signs
in different ways, but that was a sign for sure.

Speaker 11 (49:49):
That's right, and we just didn't pay no attention to it.
Now what do we do.

Speaker 10 (49:54):
We go right back to the crack house, right, and
getting get him right back in the office, right. And
now look, you see what I mean, You know what
I mean. We're just like what did Chris Rock play
in New jack City?

Speaker 11 (50:09):
Pooky Cookie? So we did a pooky on right.

Speaker 10 (50:12):
We're right back to the ground as as soon as
he gets back in the office. And here we are
again dealing with the same thing. We knew what we
was gonna do, what was going to happen, and the
same people people were losing all kinds of stuff. And
then and then here we are and now we're seeing
this thing play out in a real way.

Speaker 11 (50:30):
When it comes to.

Speaker 10 (50:33):
You know, when you go to the I say, when
you you know, how you know what kind of country
you're in, Go to the borders and go to the prisons,
and I can tell you exactly what type of country
you're in. Is there a reason why we're detaining children?
Is there a reason why we have such you know,

(50:54):
overly populated prisons more than any developed country in the
world had an accident. It's not an accident, that's that's
that's you know, that's showing who you are, you know.

Speaker 11 (51:08):
And sometimes, man, you know, you got to look in.

Speaker 10 (51:10):
The mirror and you gotta change until unless it gets
too late and it looks like that's what we're doing,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 12 (51:20):
Yeah, tell me how you treat the most suppressed person, right,
and I'll show you who you are, right.

Speaker 11 (51:26):
I mean, that's crazy.

Speaker 10 (51:27):
Nobody can feel like, Okay, we we need to get
them out, you know, and it's like, you know, they
they toothless and don't know what they talking. I'm sorry
if you toothless. I don't mean the offense, but you
know what I mean. But I mean, come on, man,
I mean you you know, I mean, we we got
the Internet and everything.

Speaker 11 (51:44):
Right now, so you know, we got to be a
little bit more smarter about it.

Speaker 10 (51:47):
But yeah, I mean, it's just it's just crazy. I mean,
you have to feel for these These are human beings,
you know what I mean. So, and your crime is
that you came across and you're working every day, you're
not paying taxes. I was reading a post that my
aunt showed me early. It's like, you know, they're using
RS records to find people, but supposed that they're not paying.

Speaker 12 (52:05):
Taxes exactly, how the irony right, they're.

Speaker 10 (52:08):
Not working, but you're going to jobs and picking them
up exactly, you know, I mean, you know it's crazy
to me.

Speaker 13 (52:16):
Yeah, and we definitely not an example from what's coming
down the pipe because it's happened to others. And I
believe that we're closer than ever right now. We're closer
ever and we've ever been in the history of this
country to internal turnoil. And I think other countries are
sitting back and saying, we don't have to do nothing.

(52:37):
We just will sit back and watch this videots.

Speaker 11 (52:40):
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (52:41):
I mean, you know, you let them join, They're probably
they would, These people are probably put the uniform for you.
But we're turning all these people away and some of
them are probably more, to be honest, are probably more
patriotic than people who were born in this country. Yes,
I mean, I mean, I'm sure they're not gonna be

(53:02):
avoiding it, like the president did you know what I mean?

Speaker 11 (53:07):
So you know, you know, but that's crazy. Somebody said,
your guests is so special. Yeah, they are. He said,
come in.

Speaker 10 (53:17):
That's crazy what you think, Joe, Huh, what you think?
But that's you know, I'm telling you man. But as
far as these protesters are concerned that he's gonna go
in and gonna call in a National Guard, yeah.

Speaker 12 (53:33):
They're already here.

Speaker 11 (53:33):
Apparently he said.

Speaker 4 (53:37):
He's gonna He said that he doesn't want like the
governor or anybody to sort of push back on it, or
he's gonna like it's gonna be like critical for them.

Speaker 11 (53:46):
So so he's making threats.

Speaker 13 (53:49):
Yeah, and he's said that if your coach, you cover
your faith legal.

Speaker 11 (53:54):
If what if you're protest and you cover your face?

Speaker 13 (53:57):
Yes, he made it foresters to cover their faith.

Speaker 11 (54:01):
Wow.

Speaker 12 (54:01):
Never mind the Ice agents also have their faces covered, right, correct.

Speaker 10 (54:07):
Unbelievable. But I mean, you know, like I said, it's
gonna backfire me. What's he gonna do? Go pick out?
Pick up with forty eight million people?

Speaker 13 (54:17):
No evident when you got that plan, they're trying to
do it, you know.

Speaker 11 (54:21):
Yeah, I mean, just like he wants to show his power,
that's all that is.

Speaker 12 (54:25):
Should start in the White House, right. His wife is
from Slovenia. Right.

Speaker 11 (54:30):
Yeah. I remember once he was saying.

Speaker 13 (54:32):
Yeah, well, what happened when the people that's uh, that's
the part of the national are going to realize that
they're on the wrong side of the law and decided
to go against it.

Speaker 11 (54:45):
You might have something like that happening.

Speaker 10 (54:47):
I mean, what if you have somebody that's a US
citizen that's that's in a critical position, and they have citizens,
they have family that's not that's undocumented, what are they
gonna do? Yeah, you know what I mean, you know,
I mean, they're gonna empathize with that situation, you know,
and they're not gonna they're gonna believe that he's in

(55:09):
the wrong.

Speaker 11 (55:10):
And the way that he's approaching it.

Speaker 10 (55:12):
I mean, the thing about it is, you know, he
ain't got no pimp game at all, right, I mean
when it comes to try.

Speaker 11 (55:18):
You know what I mean, he ain't.

Speaker 10 (55:19):
He can't for there's nothing, right, I mean, this dude
just goes, you know what I mean. So you know,
I mean he can't even smooth it over. I mean,
this dude just going out and just you know, he's
a gorilla pimp, you know, and the gorilla pimps are
there's Romeo Pimpson.

Speaker 11 (55:35):
There's gorilla pimps.

Speaker 10 (55:37):
That's true. That's true. It's an absolute fact. He's a
gorilla pimp. He just put him out there, man, and
he just you know, backhanding them and slap them around
and trying to get there.

Speaker 11 (55:47):
You know what I mean with my money? You know
what I mean? You know, you know he ain't saying
I love you and nothing. It's work. He said what
I mean and that you know that's what I'm saying.
I mean, you know that's that. It's just gonna come
back and bite him, man.

Speaker 10 (56:04):
I mean, he doesn't have the leadership, he doesn't have
the uh. You know, like Obama was smooth. He was smooth,
and you know what what you know, there's a secret.
You know what the secret is more people were deported
during Obama's administration than any other president.

Speaker 11 (56:22):
You'd never know that wouldion. He's smooth, right, he's doing it.

Speaker 10 (56:28):
He's smooth, and nobody thought nothing about it. But then
you got this dude coming in who's acting like you know,
a you know, I don't even know if I an't
say it on the radio. You Joe said, I can

(56:48):
I don't even know if I can say it on radio,
but loud. Huh, don't do it, get me to do it.

Speaker 11 (57:00):
I won't let this.

Speaker 10 (57:01):
I think people people know what I's going with it.
But yeah, but I feel bad, man, I feel bad
for them. I mean to not have to have to
be that cold, you know what I mean? You know
that you have to live every day being you know,

(57:21):
diabolical because you don't know any.

Speaker 11 (57:24):
Other way to be.

Speaker 12 (57:26):
I mean, it's a projection of their life. When you're miserable,
you're projecting other people to be miserable as well.

Speaker 10 (57:33):
And see, you know, he could have stepped to the
podium and says, I understand how you feel, but this
is what I'm doing because I want to speak to
America and I want to speak to everybody in America,
and I want to make sure that you know this
is the ideals of America.

Speaker 11 (57:52):
Right.

Speaker 10 (57:52):
He can't even do that, you see what I mean?
That's crazy, man, It's crazy, is you and we're falling
for it?

Speaker 3 (58:01):
Man?

Speaker 11 (58:02):
Is it the internet?

Speaker 4 (58:03):
Rosa?

Speaker 11 (58:04):
Is that what's happening?

Speaker 10 (58:05):
Perhaps we just get to a port man or we
can't think, right.

Speaker 4 (58:10):
I mean, it's also part of like going back to
like the narrative thing.

Speaker 11 (58:13):
There's so many different opinions.

Speaker 4 (58:15):
There's so many thoughts, and like you just have so
many pockets of the internet the world, like just communities
that like, you know, people just get misguided.

Speaker 11 (58:25):
And everybody's looking for sound bites, for.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
Sound bites, everybody's looking for just started like there, you know,
bubble thought, you know, and it just makes it hard
for people to get on the court.

Speaker 10 (58:38):
Like everybody like me, I go home and watch YouTube.
I don't watch nothing over ten minutes.

Speaker 4 (58:42):
Exactly exactly, go to the next one, right, so you
know with TikTok all of that, right, yeah.

Speaker 11 (58:52):
TikTok, we don't even want to watch anything. Man, it's
it's it's almost over. Yes, seriously, I.

Speaker 10 (59:00):
Can't believe that. Can you believe you want that fast?
And now he's playing the music. Oh wow, you gonna
you're gonna kick me out like a like Trump. Huh wait. Anyway,
we definitely appreciate everybody tuning in. We had a lot
of people tuning.

Speaker 11 (59:15):
In today, you notice that, Yeah, up to like fifteen thousand.

Speaker 10 (59:19):
But at any rate, we appreciate everybody for tuning in
for this edition of Justice Watch. We'll see you next week,
same time, same place, same channel, and until that time,
Stay blessed.

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