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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Democrats over the last thirty or forty years have
become a completely different party. When I was a kid
in the sixties and seventies, our family always said the
Democrats represented the working men and women. Well that's no
longer true. Ever since Ronald Reagan, I've been telling people
that if you're a working person in the United States,
(00:20):
you need to be voting Republican because since Reagan was
in office, they represent people with family values, people that
pay taxes, people that are trying to put food on
the table for their families. So I don't even recognize
the Democrat Party anymore. It's a socialist Democrat party. And
Kamala Harris is the most liberal presidential candidate I think
(00:43):
that's ever been on a ticket in my lifetime.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That is retired auto worker Brian Pannabecker, who is part
of the Auto Workers for Trump. And Brian joins us
now with the latest. I want to talk about the
visit President Trump. Heure last Thursday, And of course, Brian,
they're called out, they're called out and called up again.
Did Trump calling you out by name and saying, hey,
(01:08):
you're a friend? Kind of a cool moment, Brian, welcome in.
We appreciate you taking the time to be here with
us today.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Hey, thanks a lot, Justin, thanks for having me back on.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
You know, this is this is really interesting. The state
is in play in a big way. We've seen the
polling say that, and then you know, you got all
the data, and there are other states that are starting
to really look I think interesting as well. But you know,
I noticed that you you've been holding demonstrations and rallies
(01:43):
with auto workers at a different plant every week, and
you've got your own polling, your own data. Seventy five percent,
you say UAW members are pro Trump, and it gets better. Wait,
there's more. Give me the numbers. What are you finding
out when you're talking to folks.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, what we do, Justin, is we take a group
of volunteers, patriots, activists, mostly retired autoworkers because hopefully the
guys that are still working are inside the plant. Right.
But we had something interesting happen at the Lavonia Transmission
plant a couple of days ago when we did this
week's rally on Tuesday. Guys were getting off their day
(02:25):
shift and they had heard we were outside. We were
outside at the outside the parking lots setting up. We
had all our autoworkers for Trumps signs and our flags
and everything put up, and they started coming out of
the plant at the end of their shift and joining
us in our demonstration rally, which is amazing. I mean,
(02:46):
because people used to be afraid of the union pushback,
but they're not even afraid of what the union will
say to them. Now they're coming out and joining our
rallies outside the parking lot right when they get off shift.
It's just amazing. So yeah, it's growing, it's growing. I
think Trump won my plant, the Sterling Axle Plant and
Sterling Heights in twenty sixteen. I always told the media
(03:10):
probably a slim majority at that time of the autoworkers
voted for them in my plant, and then in twenty
twenty it got bigger. It was a solid majority, maybe
sixty percent. I think we're up to seventy seventy five
percent of the autoworkers. And that's my experience. By going
to different plants every week, talking to the auto workers
as they arrive, as they leave, we're getting a super
(03:33):
overwhelming response from them. And I think it's the support
inside the plants, whether it's Chrysler Ford where I worked,
or General Motors where my son works. I think it's
up to about seventy five percent.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
What do you think, Brian? And obviously you're talking to
these guys here here, what's the thing that is biggest
for them? And obviously the EVY mandates that's played a
big role in crippling we've seen. We've seen a lot
of layoffs announced job losses lately. Are these guys just
simply concern Hey, if we don't speak up now, we're
(04:08):
not going to have a job, We're not going to
have a livelihood to look forward to.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, well you said it all right there, justin ev mandates.
You know, it would be one thing if they were
adding in and it was market driven, the consumers wanted it.
But we all know, Hey, look, we're not only auto workers,
we're consumers. We drive vehicles, and we know nobody wants
to drive these things. The guys I work with drive
(04:35):
up north. They haul their snowmobiles up north, they go
up north, take their families up their skiing. EV's don't
go very far, especially in cold weather, and when you're
hauling a trailer, so they can't haul big payloads. They
don't operate well in the winter, which occasionally we have
brutal winners here in Michigan. So it just all around.
(04:56):
They don't want them, they don't want to build them,
and they know that if if we are forced to
switch over to them, we're in big trouble. We've already
closed two engine plants here in McComb County where I'm
sitting right now, the Romeo Engine plant, which was a
Ford plant, and then the Mound Road Engine which was
a Chrysler Fiat Mercedes Stalants plant. And they keep changing hands.
(05:20):
You know, every couple of years, somebody else buys that label.
Those jobs are going away. So you know, they see
the handwriting on the wall and they don't like it.
So they're starting to stand up and say, we're not
going to go along with what the Democrat administration, the
Harris Biden administration is telling us, and we're voting for
Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
It looks like that union membership, autoworkers altogether could play
a pretty big role in this election. I kind of
felt like that was going to be something that would
we'd be watching. You're seeing it on the ground, Brian.
What you hearing from President Trump the campaign? You know,
(06:00):
he reaches out, he sees you at these events and
and he reaches Have you ever heard from anybody on
the left, I mean, has anyone ever reached out?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I know that the Sean Fain and particularly the you know,
the the big wigs at the UAW have come out
to endorse Biden and Harris, But have they ever really
reached out to maybe the membership and the folks on
the ground to find out where they're out or do
they just top down sort of declare where they're going.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
They top down declare where they're going. We all know
Sean Sayin's a socialist, He's corrupt and in bed with
the Democrat Party, just like the UAW leadership has been
for decades. I was outspoken when I when I was
in the plant. You know, I retired at the end
of COVID and they were trying to get me out
(06:56):
of there. So they they jokingly said, they negotiated a
retirement incentive that extended the window to the end of November,
because I got my twenty five years in early November,
and they called it the Panabecker clause so they could
get me out of the plant because what I did
(07:16):
justin and they didn't like it was I told the truth.
I kind of tried to educate my co workers and
told them, you know what the Democrats were doing to
us with our jobs going to Mexico. You know, Ross
Prow didn't lie. He said, if NAFTA was signed into law,
we hear a giant sucking sound. That was almost thirty
(07:37):
years ago. So you know, that's exactly what happened. And
the workers are waking up, and they're most directly affected
because they're livelihoods at stake. And I think we're leading
the way here in McComb County. When I met Trump
in sixteen, I was in Nova at the time at
a rally. I was backstage, and I introduced myself real quick,
(08:00):
and I told him if he came to McComb County
and asked for the Reagan Democrats support, which is basically
the UAW members and he got it, he might win
McComb County big enough to carry the entire state of Michigan.
And I can almost see the light bulb go on
over his head. He came here, he held a huge
rally two days before the twenty sixteen election, and he
(08:21):
won McComb County big a lot of it due to
the support of the auto workers. So he knows the
importance of the auto workers vote, and he knows how
critical McComb County is, and he's going to come here repeatedly.
He actually asked me for my cell phone number in
Potterville the last time I spoke to him, and he
(08:42):
said he's going to be checking in with me regularly
and before he comes in to Michigan each time, I'll
get a heads up from the campaign, and I'm going
to be taking a group of auto workers to any
rallies he does between now and November.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Ryan Panabaker with us right now, auto Workers for Trump.
And let me ask you, Brian, interesting the president asking
for your cell phone number. I think that's that's something
in itself. You you know, you're you're just an average guy.
You're just a regular guy. If it could be anybody's
uncle or brother or cousin from Michigan here and uh,
(09:18):
you know, I I just what what is that like?
He's taken an interest in you, and of course he's
very it sounds like he's very, very engaged with you.
If anybody is on the fence or they're listening and
wondering what this guy's like or maybe somebody listening has
got the little bit of the Trump arrangement syndrome. What
what's what's it like interacting him. I've had a chance
to do that too and have some conversations. I found
(09:40):
it to be really interesting, nothing like he's ever portrayed
in them me. What has it been like for you?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Well, it's it's kind of cool. You know, Donald Trump
is just a regular guy. When I meet him, you
know immediately there's a connection there. He's he's a he's
a regular guy. Uh. He a crack a joke, get
you laughing, You relax all of a sudden, you kind
of forget that he's the president of the United States
or was the president, right, And he likes that. He
(10:09):
likes to have like a normal conversation with people. When
you go backstage and get your picture taken with him,
you're standing kind of at a distance, waiting for the
person in front of you to get done, and then
he immediately turns towards you and makes eye contact and
they introduce you, and he immediately when they introduce me,
he starts asking how things are in Detroit, how's the
(10:30):
auto industry doing, what's going on at the plant? What
are the guys, saying he wants to know. He's asking
me questions, he wants feedback from on the ground, So
I think that was the main reason. He asked for
me to give my cell phone number to his aids
and they've got all my contact information. He told his
aid keep in touch with Brian. I want to know
(10:51):
what's going on here. Let him know when we're coming
to town. So I anticipate I'll get an opportunity every
time he comes into the Detroit area, even into Michigan,
to give him sort of an update on what I'm finding.
I think he likes the idea that I'm going to
the different auto plants for all three of the domestic
autowork makers and I'm getting feedback from directly out on
(11:14):
the shop floor, and so he just kind of views me,
I think, as a pipeline to the average auto worker,
and he likes to get the pulse of what they're feeling,
what they're saying, and how they feel about, you know,
the race coming up. So it's it's interesting. I'm not
intimidated by it, and you know, I like talking to him,
(11:36):
and I feel like I'm representing I have sort of
a responsibility to represent the auto workers here in Michigan
and particularly here in McComb County. So I'm looking forward
to the next two months and I'm going to do
a rally every week from now till November. We're going
to the Michigan Assembly Plant next week middle of the week,
(11:57):
and anybody, any of your listeners who are retired or
able to come out and join us, they should go
to my Facebook page auto Workers for Trump twenty twenty four.
That's a Facebook group and they can get the information there.
And we'd love to have anybody who can get out
there and hold up a sign and pass out some
(12:17):
literature about Trump's agenda forty seven, we'd like to have
them join us.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Brian Panabecker the folks with the auto Workers for Trump,
and of course Brian will continue to play a pivotal
role here. We'll continue to check in with you throughout
the election. Always a pleasure. Thanks for taking it too, absolutely,
thank you, sir. We appreciate and God bless thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Justin I'd love to be back on Your listeners are
the auto workers, so I need to get the message
out to them. You got it.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
We'll continue to do that.
The Democrats over the last thirty or forty years have
become a completely different party. When I was a kid
in the sixties and seventies, our family always said the
Democrats represented the working men and women. Well that's no
longer true. Ever since Ronald Reagan, I've been telling people
that if you're a working person in the United States,
(00:20):
you need to be voting Republican because since Reagan was
in office, they represent people with family values, people that
pay taxes, people that are trying to put food on
the table for their families. So I don't even recognize
the Democrat Party anymore. It's a socialist Democrat party. And
Kamala Harris is the most liberal presidential candidate I think
(00:43):
that's ever been on a ticket in my lifetime.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
That is retired auto worker Brian Pannabecker, who is part
of the Auto Workers for Trump. And Brian joins us
now with the latest. I want to talk about the
visit President Trump. Heure last Thursday, And of course, Brian,
they're called out, they're called out and called up again.
Did Trump calling you out by name and saying, hey,
(01:08):
you're a friend? Kind of a cool moment, Brian, welcome in.
We appreciate you taking the time to be here with
us today.
Speaker 3 (01:15):
Hey, thanks a lot, Justin, thanks for having me back on.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
You know, this is this is really interesting. The state
is in play in a big way. We've seen the
polling say that, and then you know, you got all
the data, and there are other states that are starting
to really look I think interesting as well. But you know,
I noticed that you you've been holding demonstrations and rallies
(01:43):
with auto workers at a different plant every week, and
you've got your own polling, your own data. Seventy five percent,
you say UAW members are pro Trump, and it gets better. Wait,
there's more. Give me the numbers. What are you finding
out when you're talking to folks.
Speaker 3 (02:02):
Yeah, what we do, Justin, is we take a group
of volunteers, patriots, activists, mostly retired autoworkers because hopefully the
guys that are still working are inside the plant. Right.
But we had something interesting happen at the Lavonia Transmission
plant a couple of days ago when we did this
week's rally on Tuesday. Guys were getting off their day
(02:25):
shift and they had heard we were outside. We were
outside at the outside the parking lots setting up. We
had all our autoworkers for Trumps signs and our flags
and everything put up, and they started coming out of
the plant at the end of their shift and joining
us in our demonstration rally, which is amazing. I mean,
(02:46):
because people used to be afraid of the union pushback,
but they're not even afraid of what the union will
say to them. Now they're coming out and joining our
rallies outside the parking lot right when they get off shift.
It's just amazing. So yeah, it's growing, it's growing. I
think Trump won my plant, the Sterling Axle Plant and
Sterling Heights in twenty sixteen. I always told the media
(03:10):
probably a slim majority at that time of the autoworkers
voted for them in my plant, and then in twenty
twenty it got bigger. It was a solid majority, maybe
sixty percent. I think we're up to seventy seventy five
percent of the autoworkers. And that's my experience. By going
to different plants every week, talking to the auto workers
as they arrive, as they leave, we're getting a super
(03:33):
overwhelming response from them. And I think it's the support
inside the plants, whether it's Chrysler Ford where I worked,
or General Motors where my son works. I think it's
up to about seventy five percent.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
What do you think, Brian? And obviously you're talking to
these guys here here, what's the thing that is biggest
for them? And obviously the EVY mandates that's played a
big role in crippling we've seen. We've seen a lot
of layoffs announced job losses lately. Are these guys just
simply concern Hey, if we don't speak up now, we're
(04:08):
not going to have a job, We're not going to
have a livelihood to look forward to.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, well you said it all right there, justin ev mandates.
You know, it would be one thing if they were
adding in and it was market driven, the consumers wanted it.
But we all know, Hey, look, we're not only auto workers,
we're consumers. We drive vehicles, and we know nobody wants
to drive these things. The guys I work with drive
(04:35):
up north. They haul their snowmobiles up north, they go
up north, take their families up their skiing. EV's don't
go very far, especially in cold weather, and when you're
hauling a trailer, so they can't haul big payloads. They
don't operate well in the winter, which occasionally we have
brutal winners here in Michigan. So it just all around.
(04:56):
They don't want them, they don't want to build them,
and they know that if if we are forced to
switch over to them, we're in big trouble. We've already
closed two engine plants here in McComb County where I'm
sitting right now, the Romeo Engine plant, which was a
Ford plant, and then the Mound Road Engine which was
a Chrysler Fiat Mercedes Stalants plant. And they keep changing hands.
(05:20):
You know, every couple of years, somebody else buys that label.
Those jobs are going away. So you know, they see
the handwriting on the wall and they don't like it.
So they're starting to stand up and say, we're not
going to go along with what the Democrat administration, the
Harris Biden administration is telling us, and we're voting for
Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
It looks like that union membership, autoworkers altogether could play
a pretty big role in this election. I kind of
felt like that was going to be something that would
we'd be watching. You're seeing it on the ground, Brian.
What you hearing from President Trump the campaign? You know,
(06:00):
he reaches out, he sees you at these events and
and he reaches Have you ever heard from anybody on
the left, I mean, has anyone ever reached out?
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (06:12):
I know that the Sean Fain and particularly the you know,
the the big wigs at the UAW have come out
to endorse Biden and Harris, But have they ever really
reached out to maybe the membership and the folks on
the ground to find out where they're out or do
they just top down sort of declare where they're going.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
They top down declare where they're going. We all know
Sean Sayin's a socialist, He's corrupt and in bed with
the Democrat Party, just like the UAW leadership has been
for decades. I was outspoken when I when I was
in the plant. You know, I retired at the end
of COVID and they were trying to get me out
(06:56):
of there. So they they jokingly said, they negotiated a
retirement incentive that extended the window to the end of November,
because I got my twenty five years in early November,
and they called it the Panabecker clause so they could
get me out of the plant because what I did
(07:16):
justin and they didn't like it was I told the truth.
I kind of tried to educate my co workers and
told them, you know what the Democrats were doing to
us with our jobs going to Mexico. You know, Ross
Prow didn't lie. He said, if NAFTA was signed into law,
we hear a giant sucking sound. That was almost thirty
(07:37):
years ago. So you know, that's exactly what happened. And
the workers are waking up, and they're most directly affected
because they're livelihoods at stake. And I think we're leading
the way here in McComb County. When I met Trump
in sixteen, I was in Nova at the time at
a rally. I was backstage, and I introduced myself real quick,
(08:00):
and I told him if he came to McComb County
and asked for the Reagan Democrats support, which is basically
the UAW members and he got it, he might win
McComb County big enough to carry the entire state of Michigan.
And I can almost see the light bulb go on
over his head. He came here, he held a huge
rally two days before the twenty sixteen election, and he
(08:21):
won McComb County big a lot of it due to
the support of the auto workers. So he knows the
importance of the auto workers vote, and he knows how
critical McComb County is, and he's going to come here repeatedly.
He actually asked me for my cell phone number in
Potterville the last time I spoke to him, and he
(08:42):
said he's going to be checking in with me regularly
and before he comes in to Michigan each time, I'll
get a heads up from the campaign, and I'm going
to be taking a group of auto workers to any
rallies he does between now and November.
Speaker 2 (08:55):
Ryan Panabaker with us right now, auto Workers for Trump.
And let me ask you, Brian, interesting the president asking
for your cell phone number. I think that's that's something
in itself. You you know, you're you're just an average guy.
You're just a regular guy. If it could be anybody's
uncle or brother or cousin from Michigan here and uh,
(09:18):
you know, I I just what what is that like?
He's taken an interest in you, and of course he's
very it sounds like he's very, very engaged with you.
If anybody is on the fence or they're listening and
wondering what this guy's like or maybe somebody listening has
got the little bit of the Trump arrangement syndrome. What
what's what's it like interacting him. I've had a chance
to do that too and have some conversations. I found
(09:40):
it to be really interesting, nothing like he's ever portrayed
in them me. What has it been like for you?
Speaker 3 (09:47):
Well, it's it's kind of cool. You know, Donald Trump
is just a regular guy. When I meet him, you
know immediately there's a connection there. He's he's a he's
a regular guy. Uh. He a crack a joke, get
you laughing, You relax all of a sudden, you kind
of forget that he's the president of the United States
or was the president, right, And he likes that. He
(10:09):
likes to have like a normal conversation with people. When
you go backstage and get your picture taken with him,
you're standing kind of at a distance, waiting for the
person in front of you to get done, and then
he immediately turns towards you and makes eye contact and
they introduce you, and he immediately when they introduce me,
he starts asking how things are in Detroit, how's the
(10:30):
auto industry doing, what's going on at the plant? What
are the guys, saying he wants to know. He's asking
me questions, he wants feedback from on the ground, So
I think that was the main reason. He asked for
me to give my cell phone number to his aids
and they've got all my contact information. He told his
aid keep in touch with Brian. I want to know
(10:51):
what's going on here. Let him know when we're coming
to town. So I anticipate I'll get an opportunity every
time he comes into the Detroit area, even into Michigan,
to give him sort of an update on what I'm finding.
I think he likes the idea that I'm going to
the different auto plants for all three of the domestic
autowork makers and I'm getting feedback from directly out on
(11:14):
the shop floor, and so he just kind of views me,
I think, as a pipeline to the average auto worker,
and he likes to get the pulse of what they're feeling,
what they're saying, and how they feel about, you know,
the race coming up. So it's it's interesting. I'm not
intimidated by it, and you know, I like talking to him,
(11:36):
and I feel like I'm representing I have sort of
a responsibility to represent the auto workers here in Michigan
and particularly here in McComb County. So I'm looking forward
to the next two months and I'm going to do
a rally every week from now till November. We're going
to the Michigan Assembly Plant next week middle of the week,
(11:57):
and anybody, any of your listeners who are retired or
able to come out and join us, they should go
to my Facebook page auto Workers for Trump twenty twenty four.
That's a Facebook group and they can get the information there.
And we'd love to have anybody who can get out
there and hold up a sign and pass out some
(12:17):
literature about Trump's agenda forty seven, we'd like to have
them join us.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
Brian Panabecker the folks with the auto Workers for Trump,
and of course Brian will continue to play a pivotal
role here. We'll continue to check in with you throughout
the election. Always a pleasure. Thanks for taking it too, absolutely,
thank you, sir. We appreciate and God bless thank you.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
Justin I'd love to be back on Your listeners are
the auto workers, so I need to get the message
out to them. You got it.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
We'll continue to do that.
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