08-09-25 Sounds of the End: Trumpets, Hums & Otherworldly Echoes

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Speaker 3 (08:57):
So yeah, this topic we've been wanting. It's what lot
of funny, is it. We've danced around this topic and
other topics. A lot of the things we've talked about
tonight we're talking about tonight, we've talked about in other
ways and other context but we've never put it together.

Speaker 1 (09:14):
As its own standalone show.

Speaker 3 (09:17):
Yeah, it's its own show. We're titling it the Sounds
of the End because it's a whole variety of different
unexplained audio phenomenon that has occurred around the world, from
sky trumpets to deep bore you know, the sounds of
the earth from deep boring, and just everything that comes
in between. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (09:40):
Well, the interesting thing because, as as usual, you and
I were the only ones that knew what this topic was,
well other than Jeff, I think. And not only did
the previous show touch on a topic that we've already
done on juxtaposition, which I thought was interesting because I
didn't know TELLT tonight that that was what they were
doing either knew about the name of the person that

(10:01):
was involved. I didn't put it together with the hotel.
But then the fact that some of what we might
be discussing, what would be discussing that I may actually
explain what happened.

Speaker 3 (10:09):
Over there too.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
I was just like, this is just another one of
those weird nights where all the pieces are coming together
and we didn't even plan for that to happen.

Speaker 3 (10:15):
Yeah, I don't know if you say I dropped that
in the in the chat when they were you know,
going through their you know, plausibilities and causes at the end,
and because it hit me, I was outside of a sea,
I'm like, you know what, this could have something, you know,
because you know a couple of stories we're talking about tonight.
One of the things that they found was actually the
cause of it, Like that could easily be happening in

(10:37):
that hotel too, and it could have been happening for
the last hundred years.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Oh yeah, I had I had a feeling they were
probably about to bring that up. That's why in that
exact moment when at the end, when they started trying
to explain all the causality, it was like, hey, hey, hey,
that's the next hour, don't step on that stuff.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Correct. So but yeah, so we might as well. And
you said, you got some audio clips for tonight so
we can really creep them out.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yeah, it's gonna be fun, it's gonna be excelent.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
So I guess the place to start with this would
be the sky trumpets. That was the one that was
all the rage for a while back in twenty eleven.
They're all around the world. There were these eerie trumpet
like sounds that were just emanating from the sky and uh,
you know, real good cause from just metallic droning blasts

(11:27):
that sounded like enormous horns are grinding steel. And it'd
been heard everywhere from Kiev to Terrace, Canada, Germany, Brazil, Mexico.
And there's actually video from the one on Kiev. I've
always called it Kiev, but I guess it's Kiev as I.

Speaker 1 (11:44):
I still call it Kiev because they can fuck off.

Speaker 3 (11:47):
Okay, cool, welcome, Yeah, okay, But it was these This
is a recording of mechanical howling noises echoing over and
over through urban neighborhood and it was so bizarre and
so loud that many people just they knew it couldn't
be faked. Your normal city noises could be heard in
the background of the clip, and the residents appear to

(12:10):
be genuinely startled. Did you get that? Were you able
to dig and find this one or hang on?

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Yeah, I've got it. I'm just fighting with the system.
One second down the system. Everything's being really lagged at
night for some reason. But here we go.

Speaker 2 (12:42):
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Speaker 3 (13:13):
M m.

Speaker 10 (13:36):
M m.

Speaker 14 (13:56):
M.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Anything you.

Speaker 15 (14:18):
Do you remember any many people that you ever came,

(14:49):
any language, you ever anything you.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Oh, I love that Ali. It turns out this was
Rosie O'Donnell having a get times.

Speaker 3 (15:37):
Yeah, I mean that's eerie. You know some of the things,
like when it zoomed in on the people just walking around,
they don't seem to be vexed by it. But you
can also see people out on their porches, you know,
like they've been drawn out by the sound too, So
it's kind of but yeah, that's definitely ominous. So there

(16:02):
was a later video where there was the exact same
sound coming from footage from Conklin, Alberta. But it was
the exact same sound, so that's needed to be likely
a hoax. But not all the recordings were faked, and
it grew as more witnesses came out saying yeah, I
heard that too. This was right before twenty twelve, when

(16:24):
everybody had the mind Calendar on their mind, and this
was just feeding in the fire. And but yeah, and
later clip there was another video released in twenty fifteen
that claimed to show strange apopacalyptic sounds from all around
the world, from Australia and Latin America and Costa Rica

(16:46):
and this frightening metallic roar that was reported by hundreds
of people. One said it sounded like two massive sea
doors clanging shut in the sky. I'm just wording. I mean,
I didn't to see the list of audio clips you had.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Yeah, that was actually that was actually not one of
the ones that I was able to find, but I
did find several others.

Speaker 2 (17:08):
I have.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
Got a couple of the ones out of British Columbia.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
God, oh, the ones out of Terrace. Okay, yeah, yeah,
this one was from a local resident, Kimberly Wookie. She
recorded a lot of them from all around town on
multiple occasions. Yeah. This was all over the period of
one summer, and some of them were waking her up
and terrifying her and her kid early in the morning.

(17:35):
So if you got those, yep, cool, What the fuck?

Speaker 1 (18:37):
I would like to point out the difference between Eastern
Bloc and Western Bloc countries because hang on, I just
realized that one on the wrong screen. The dude that
was taping. The first one was just like chilling, like
zooming in on everybody. This thing's going for like thirty seconds,
and you can hear her going, what the fuck fuck?

Speaker 3 (18:52):
I actually thought that was you for a second. Nope,
but yeah that Yeah, did you have another one from her?

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Actually I did, hang on somewhere I can grab it.
Accidentally loaded the first one or the second one first,
hang on, that's what happened.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
I'll just shoutow puppets while you're no, I got well, okay,

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Speaker 7 (20:05):
S the last school.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
I have a mom.

Speaker 1 (21:01):
Okay, so I think that was actually the end of
that one. I think the wind Yeah, that was technically
supposed to be the first one from that accidentally a
little bit them backwards.

Speaker 3 (21:10):
So okay, I'm I don't know. I'm looking at the
I'm looking at the neighborhood and there are people home,
but nobody's popping their head out in what the fuck
kind of way?

Speaker 10 (21:30):
You know?

Speaker 3 (21:30):
I mean, that was just too lot. It wasn't like
the other one. I mean, that was just but still
eerie as fuck.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
Yeah, I mean it was definitely weird, but as far
as I mean, so just so people have context, these
videos started being taken apparently, because these sounds were happening
for for days and weeks before people started actually trying
to capture them, so this wasn't so true. I think
what may have happened is some people just kind of
went You also have to understand if it's what, because

(22:02):
we've already got people talking about, you know, in the
chat that you know this is obviously trumpets, YadA YadA.
If if that's the angle everybody wants to take, remember
if these are in fact the trumpets of last days,
not everybody is actually supposed to be able to hear them.

Speaker 3 (22:17):
So that's true.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
So that's the first thing I thought when dude was
zooming in and people were just kind of in the
first one, when they're just like walking around like it's nothing,
I'm like, oh, I wonder if they can even hear this.

Speaker 3 (22:29):
Yeah. Then you saw a couple of people pop their
heads out on their balconies too, so some of them could.
Did you have any more of these? Are? Well? Actually
I have.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
This is actually in the same town two years later,
so this was May seventh, fifteen was when this one occurred.
So hang on, m hm.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
Now when you say it's a couple of years apart.
That actually gives it a little bit more credibility because
it's not a striking while the iron's hot kind of thing.
I mean, I know, shit like this can stay alive
on Reddit for decades.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
But but yeah, apparently this has been happening in the
same town for quite a while now, I do know
when somebody else already brought up this in the chatter.
I did some research about the region. Apparently there is
a train yard in the middle of the town. There's
also a ferry station. But that's really loud to be

(25:02):
those things.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
I don't know, well, I was thinking it's you know,
it's not like, you know, her kid playing the trumpet
behind her, because it's very big. You know, it's not
just you know, one trumpet, you know, so either totally
faked or I mean, you know, or you know some
other but it's you know, like it's not just like

(25:24):
you know, someone just doing you know, playing a trumpet
really loud next to her behind her. Yeah, yeah, so,
I mean this the phenomenon really took off in the
mid twenty teens, you know, like except the twenty twelve
being a part of it. And you know, it's one
of those things where it's like it starts to feed

(25:46):
and then you get the obvious hoaks and coffeecats afterwards.
But you know, the big talk at the time, I said,
with twenty twelve and the Mayan calendar was uh, literal
signs of the apocalypse, you know, angels aliens are warning humanity. Yeah.
So what I found interesting was that some of the

(26:08):
things that were used to explain it away, and this
first one was strictly in science fiction until it wasn't.
And that's one thing with a lot of these tonight.
The it has that swamp gas explanation. You know, you're
the UFOs, you know Project Blue Book, Oh, swamp gas
or you knows, venus reflecting off you know whatever, where

(26:29):
it just seems like a lot of these the explanation
is not only doesn't it fit, but it just seems
so contrived. Now, Okay, this first one I do know
from sci fi. They've talked about it a lot in
sci fi, and that is skyquakes, and some scientists believe
that there is a natural process that can produce a

(26:52):
loud sky booming noise. You know, they used to be
called Seneca guns in folklore. Uh, and what is it
booms or hormone like noises from atmospheric dusting duct ducting
from distant thunder electromagnetic noise when the magnetosphere and the

(27:12):
ionosphere interact during heavy solar activity. Al you'll know all
about that with Hamm radio, where it can get really wonky,
you know. And some geologists propose that the sounds might
precede earthquakes. You know, there was reports of strange hums
and trumpet like sounds before the earthquake in twenty eleven

(27:34):
in Virginia.

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Sorry, I was trying to make sure that was ready
to go.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
Okay, really it is.

Speaker 1 (27:41):
I didn't have it loaded yet, so I was making
sure it was there all right.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
Yeah, And in twenty eleven one scientist named Elchin Kaloff
suggested it was acoustic gravity waves from solar flares or
even the Earth's core could be There's a lot of
you know, scientific trying to explain it away. But I
thought skyquake was interesting because I'd only experienced that in
sci fi before. Now, like you brought up there was

(28:09):
what was that?

Speaker 1 (28:10):
I said, Well, the skycuak theory is kind of interesting
because I've only ever heard that reference in sci fi before,
so I was like, wait, so that's an actual thing.

Speaker 3 (28:18):
Really, Yeah, that's what when I was when we were
digging into this, and I'm just like skyquakes. I mean,
that's that's like Pierce Anthony or dragon Riders are pern
I for some reason, I have that attached to my
head with it. But yeah, like you were talking about too, Uh,
there's the mechanical and industrial sounds. In some cases, investigators

(28:41):
have found that, you know, like in the terror terrorist
BC heavy machinery. Uh, they discovered was heavy machinery of
a erod or blade, a road grad blade scraping at
just the right angle and reverberating across the hills caused
the say out. But yeah, that's you know, and some

(29:03):
of them there's been heavy entuct you know, construction or
factory noises from far away. There was one case in Canada.
We'll talk about that we're coming up on the break.
But yeah, it just you know it that explains some
of it, but not stuff like what we were hearing
in those clips.

Speaker 1 (29:24):
Yeah, and that's just it. I mean, some of it
does kind of sound not I wouldn't necessarily say like
natural sounds, but it does kind of have an industrial
sound to it. But to me, it's the scope and
the scale of them that lead me. I mean, if
you would think with as loud as those things were,
if you were able to hear it to that volume,
you would be able to see it in the shots.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
Yeah yeah, I mean, if you know, if your neighborhood,
you know, like somebody mentioned in the chat, a train
going around turn a little too fast, if you're in
that neighborhood, you're not going to run out and you know,
film the sound. You're gonna run out and film train
doing it so you can say, you know, hey, you
got to tell your guys to slow down to some ship.
This is out of control. Yeah that almost went right

(30:07):
through my living room, all right.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
But just to show how widespread this stuff was, there
is one more. This is actually from Houston. So we'll
play this real quick and then we'll go to the break.
I just want to give people this. I mean, this
wasn't just stuff that was, you know, showing up in
a couple of different places. This stuff was being seen
all over the place. Trying to make sure this one
actually works because the volume wasn't working a second ago,

(30:30):
so hang on, maybe maybe not.

Speaker 3 (30:36):
Anybody hear this weird shit going on?

Speaker 1 (30:39):
That sounds Fuck, it's like trump fits, You're central.

Speaker 3 (30:46):
Anybody hear this weird shit going on?

Speaker 15 (30:49):
Hear that sounds?

Speaker 1 (30:50):
Fuck, it's like trump fits, You're central. So yeah, that
one's just as short, but I wanted to play it
because it actually shows how often these things were being
found or seen or heard. And sorry, I need to
start remember to move these things off the screens when
I'm having to flip around a lot so I don't

(31:11):
get the wrong one. But yeah, no, it's just the
scope and the scale of it is what's astounding to me.
Because there are some that'll be coming up later with
one of the things we're gonna be talking about, which
is the hum, that one has even an even bigger scope.
It's being heard almost everywhere, so it's it's not just
the trumpet sounds. There are other sounds, and it's just

(31:31):
happening all over the place. And I think, to me,
one of the things that makes it interesting to me
is the fact that in some of these places we've
actually found evidence that this has been happening for more
than a couple of years in different random times. So
I don't know, to me that adds credence more than anything.
But I am a little weird about that because I've

(31:55):
even had people tell me that they've heard things like
that around here, and I'm like, I've never heard it.
So I'm like checking my Christianity card and shipped at
this point, going my exs is gonna make it because
people are telling you they hear them too, and I'm not.
So I don't know.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
It's still good, right, I mean, you know it's not
just because I do that show with that homish guy.

Speaker 1 (32:14):
Right. If I go to Hell, I'm leaving you.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
Okay, that's fair. I'll be waiting there. You can just
tell me straight up. But Yeah, the one I couldn't
find the clip for that I was really hoping would
be out there was the the baseball game in Tampa
where there was that a noise similar to those It
was picked up on live TV. The announcers were commenting
on it, and hundreds of fans were noticing it too.
You know, they were like looking away from the game

(32:38):
at the so and it was like a warbling horn
noise that it was just coming from nowhere.

Speaker 1 (32:48):
Yeah. I looked out a little bit of the place
for that one too. I haven't. I wasn't able to
find it because that one I knew which one. I
know which one you're talking about, because that's actually one
of the ones that I've heard before, and I did
think it was interesting because the announcers and stuff we're
talking about. It was it the never mind, I think
I may have just found it that did not show

(33:09):
that did not show up earlier. That's weird. So this
is a clip at the Tropic Canada Bay Baseball Baseball Field.
It looks like it was in twenty twelve. Hang on
and make sure that thunder and lightning hitting the audio system.

(33:48):
Apparently it's not playing very well, though hopefully it's not
because my Internet is starting to be stupid, because I
do have a lot of tabs open right now. All right,
I think we're gonna give up on this one. I
think I'm overlooking.

Speaker 3 (34:09):
I mean, did I lose you?

Speaker 1 (34:15):
I mean you can still kind of hear the weirdness.
There's a weird hum going on in the background the
whole time, so I think that's kind of what they're
alluding to. But I don't know. For some reason, that
one wasn't winning the load very well, So I don't
know what happened there.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
I'm getting out a lot lately on youtubes as well. Yeah,
they'll just buer for no reason. I know, it's not
my internet. So because I can play the next video,
it's fine. But you know, the one thing, as often
as these things are trying is they are trying to
be debunked. That a lot of them just I mean
a lot of them are, but a lot of them
just can't be. And that's what really makes it creepy.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
I don't know all honestly, this topic d of it. Actually,
that was weird me out. So if I seem a
little more discombobulated than usual, it's because my brain's trying
to keep up with all of it. Because this is
the kind of stuff that makes you think, because yeah,
I mean, it's like when that first one, when uh,
I think it was that he have one. I kept

(35:17):
I kept waiting for them to pay over and show
like Godzilla or something about to destroy the town. That's
exactly what that one reminds me of, is he sounds.
But yeah, that was that was my my middle son's actually, yeah,

(35:38):
my middle son. That was his favorite movie for the
longest time and one of his one of his grandfathers
latched onto the idea that it was his favorite movie,
and he would always get him giggling just because he
would wait. He'd wait, walk, wait for him to walk
into the room and just yo and he would just
start cracking. So anytime, anytime I hear it sound like that,

(35:58):
that's the first thing I think. But yeah, I kept
waiting for for like Kaiju to be like stomping towards
the city or something. I don't know, But yeah, this
is the tamest part of the show. We're gonna be
talking about that I do. By the way, Yeah, it
gets weirder as we go, but we are at that point.
So and because somebody's put in a lot of work

(36:20):
to give us a really cool break song, I think
I'm gonna run it during both breaks. It's awesome cool.

Speaker 4 (36:25):
But here we go.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
We're gonna take our break. This should give you guys
a couple of minutes to get up, stretch of legs, grab,
grab a drink, maybe spoke a little bit of what
helps you think unless you're working. But then again, even
if you are, neither of us are probably your boss
and we don't judge anyway, So we'll be right back
stay tuned.

Speaker 8 (37:23):
The sky forgot it silent, It played.

Speaker 3 (37:28):
A broken tone.

Speaker 16 (37:34):
I stared into the window, but nothing came alone.

Speaker 17 (37:46):
It wasn't wore a thunder, It wasn't drapped or flame,
just numbers in the distance.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Soon, let's saying and saying and saying.

Speaker 6 (38:09):
It's fast beneath the searcuit. It whispered it along beneath
the ceiling.

Speaker 8 (38:25):
That knew I start to fall.

Speaker 2 (38:32):
They told me not to listen, they.

Speaker 8 (38:37):
Told me not to stay.

Speaker 7 (38:44):
But something in the signal was always waiting there.

Speaker 2 (39:20):
This is not a warning, this is not.

Speaker 8 (39:23):
A bread It's just amailing issue. Then no one wants away?
Why is this had a feedback until I never souls it?
Not around the side, never left the club.

Speaker 16 (39:45):
Pos The earth forgot to answer. It creaked against the brain.

(40:19):
The floorboards sang in sequence a slow mechanical rain. No
thunder shook the tower. No wind replied in kine, Just

(40:43):
silence bent in circles.

Speaker 4 (40:47):
And swallowed up the time.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
Alright, welcome back into the program. This is just position.
We are about halfway through hour one, a little bit over,
and so our two to come as well. Hope everybody's
enjoying the show so far. Make sure you're liking the feeds,
hearing the feed, telling your friends about the feed, and
we're gonna get back into it. Uh sorry, I actually
was kind of head bang into that one, so I
lost track of time. I forgot.

Speaker 3 (42:41):
No, he just gets He just gets better with those
every time, especially with short notice too. What's your guys
topic about this? Okay, and the next morning we'll be like, yeah,
I made this last night.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
Well, well, the thing about it is he you know,
you you're always sharing all your music type. This is
like right and the stuff that I listened to the daily.
So I'm just sitting here just like jam into the
rifts and I'm like, oh shit, I forgot. This is
like a six and a half minute so I'll actually
probably come back now.

Speaker 3 (43:07):
Oh you're gonna like uh his new theme for Asgar Northen.

Speaker 1 (43:12):
But anyway, so yeah, I mean, so, in case you're
just joining us, we are talking about the sounds of
the End, because that's what a lot of people have
deemed them. So far. We've been talking about the very loud,
trumpet like sounds being heard all over the world, and
it gets weirder from there because there's other things that
we're gonna be talking about too.

Speaker 3 (43:32):
Yeah, now we're going to the super low end. The
hums a very small subset of the population, like between
two and ten percent. And here I'm very frequently called
hummers when they're in a town that's getting hit with these.
The most famous of one was the Tows, New Mexico
hum Now, if you're not familiar with Taws, New Mexico,
it's a small town, about five thousand people. It's an

(43:55):
artist community. It's like Sonona. And around ninety one ninety two,
a growing number of the residents said they could hear
a low, throbbing sound day and night. They described it
as like the throb of a diesel engine idling somewhere
just out of sight. And by ninety three the issue
had gained so much prominence, and this was all over

(44:15):
art Bell back in the day. It was probably three
times a year. He covered this topic when it was
still hot, and between that and the local papers and
community meetings, it got so much notice that even Congressman
Bill Richards had prompted a formal study, bringing in a
team of scientists from Los Alamos and other institutions, and

(44:38):
they descended on the small town with sound detectors, seismographs,
em sensors, and after extensive tests, they found no unusual
acoustic or seismic signals could be found in the area.
There was no measurable hum detected, even though the hearers
were genuinely hearing something. The researcher was positive that perhaps

(44:58):
a few people had extra sensitive in the actual in
the very little frequency range, or that maybe it was
TONIGHTUS or you know, some other spontaneous ear noise, but
to affect them all the same way. Because I have
Tony's and I might one out of ten people I
talk to who also have it will have the same

(45:19):
thing that I have. They'll everybody experiences it a little different.
But nevertheless, you know, it was real to a lot
of people. It drove some people to leave that to
you know, who are unable to sleep or function in
their day to day lives from it, to leave town,

(45:41):
and didn't affect them once they left town anymore. So,
I mean it well, there's been no you know, proven
source behind it. It's led to a lot of speculations
from I said, tonight's UFO bases military ELF testing of communications.

Speaker 1 (46:04):
Yeah, that's been one of the bases. I'm sorry I
mean to step on you there, but that one was
one of the ones that I actually fell on a
bit of a rabbit hole on. And I'll just mention
the one that I've been doing a little bit of
research on Project Segue. That one's been around since the sixties. Basically,
you e l F otherwise known as extremely little frequencies
for one to test one way communication to nuclear subs

(46:28):
for fort strike orders, et cetera. So that is that
is one of the plausible theories as to why some
of these frequencies are being heard by people who actually
have slight variances in their hearing ranges. So that one
was kind of fell down a rabbit hole.

Speaker 3 (46:45):
Now on some people describe it as not so much
hearing it as feeling it. You'll kind of like when
you got the base in that car that's a couple
of blocks away that you know they're it's just you know,
you can feel it, but you can't actually hear it,
but you know, you know, yeah, and you know that's
one of the descripts behind it too. Another one, I

(47:09):
think this one kind of got debunked. It was the
Bristol hum and this was one of the earlier earliest ones.
It was back in nineteen seventy seven British newspaper The
Sunday Mirror asked readers have you heard the hum? And
it was flooded with hundreds of responses from around the country.
Approximately eight hundred people were consistently disturbed by the little
rumble at night. They made headlines. Thorough investigations at the

(47:33):
time couldn't pinpoint a source, and interestingly, after some years
the hum just started to fade away by the nineties,
but as similar reports started to crop up across the UK,
Bondy and largs and eighty in the eighties and such
those affected collectively they were in A study in the
group of South Hampton found that the heroes in England

(47:56):
were typically middle aged and could often pick up frequencies
between thirty and eighty hertz that bothered them. This matched,
you know, the same thing that was affecting the Tows population.
But yeah, it was another town that acoustic scientists. I've
looked into periodically in the matter until it just went away.

(48:17):
There was even a BBC drama on it. I forgot
about that, but yeah, no, this one wasn't debunked. They
theorized that it could have been a distant factory, you know,
fans or gas pipeline vibrations, but nothing that they could pinpoint.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
Well, just for fun, we do actually have I think
the first one I had ready to go, if I
remember right, is about the tows hum. This one's a
bit long, so I don't think I won't play the
whole thing, but I guess it's actually a bit of

(48:59):
a kind of a write.

Speaker 3 (49:00):
Up about it.

Speaker 2 (49:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (49:01):
This was not the one I thought it was, but
we'll let it run for a second anyway. Then I
mentioned my YouTube this is crazy today.

Speaker 3 (49:17):
Yeah, your internet is not digging it.

Speaker 1 (49:19):
Yeah, my internet's not liking this right now. All right,
maybe y'all have to fix that. I don't know what's
all right, So maybe we won't do too any more
of the clips because for some reason my internet is
really right now.

Speaker 3 (49:38):
I don't know what's wrong now. I was gonna be
surprised that they could pick up the house, how much.
I'm you know, the actual researchers couldn't. I guess the
next one would be Large, Scotland. It's a small town
in the Firth of Clyde. Largs has had reports of
a hum since the eighties. It's just as a low

(50:00):
drone often heard at night. About this, people say it
starts right after sunset and then it's worse in the
middle of the night, and this has caused headaches, insomnia,
and he's even been described as absolute despair for some
long people who have been a long time affected by it.
One resident, Georgie Hisslop, I know I butchered that name too,

(50:25):
was so effected that she left town and lived out
of a caravan to get away. I guess it's like
a BW bus now that I think about it, just
for the health effects from it. And she reported the
noise even interfered with electronics, making her radio buzz and
gave her tightness in the chest and nausea. And as
of twenty nineteen, the larg's humme is still being reported intermittently.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
It's just I don't know, all of this is just
so weird to me because I mean, just kind of
looking at all the different examples, I mean, they all
kind of have the same things in common. They all
talk about. There's this low drone usually often heard more
late at night. Some say it usually starts around sunset
and gets worse as than night progresses and everywhere where

(51:15):
this is discussed that has that same kind of stuff,
there's a low rumble, causes symptoms like migraines, dizziness, nosebleeds.
And in two thousand and three and two thousand and
four acoustical engineers actually investigated one of these I guess
it was the one in Cocomo, Indiana. They did find
two specific noise sources. One was a thirty six hertz
tone from an auto plant cooling tower and another was

(51:39):
a ten hertz vibration from an air compressor at a
nearby factory. But the thing that amazes me about those frequencies,
those are low enough that people shouldn't even be picking
up on them.

Speaker 3 (51:52):
Yeah, that said for sonic levels, that's well below well
below human hearing. That's uh yeah, that's deep. But yeah,
and that kind of explains where people feel it more
than they you know, hear it. God, I just lost

(52:14):
my point with that. Sorry, oh, but yeah, that's what
when we were with we were talking about in the
you know how I mentioned in the chat for the
uh during the last shutter in front front Porch Forensics
that you know when you mentioned the yeah, an air
compressor at ten hurts. That's something that could have been

(52:36):
going on in that hotel for the last hundred years.
Some bit of equipment just has a sympathetic vibration at
the right frequency, or in that case, the wrong frequency,
affecting people and just through the way to give them
the despair to self delete or you know sentematic.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Well, I mean, well, that's something that I think needs
to be kind of looked at a little bit, a
little bit more deeply, especially because I mean I was
looking through all these different things, especially with the hum,
They're all finding like similar tones. It's usually anywhere. It's
anywhere from thirty six all the way down to ten herds,
usually found in some sort of machinery like the one there.

(53:20):
There was another one. Where was it that I just
found that.

Speaker 3 (53:25):
The the windsor Ontario one.

Speaker 1 (53:28):
Yeah, that actually doesn't happen to be you know, geographically,
it's actually not that far from you know, Detroit.

Speaker 3 (53:38):
Yeah, with this one. The hum began around twenty eleven
for residents of the west end of the town complained
about a deep, pulsing noise that would come and go
in unexpected times, rattling windows and shaking dishes. Yeah, like
I described and the earliest one was a subwber for
a distant thunder it'd be becomes so intense that over

(54:01):
twenty two thousand people joined a teleconference about it, and
a Facebook group of mass thousands of members trading daily observations.
People who reflectively reported nausea, headaches, irritability. One man said
it was very destructive and it felt like there was
a thunder going on for hours of the day causing anxiety.

(54:21):
And you know, it was always the you know, the
fringe theories started to come into play with it after
the Canadian government fund and studies. By twenty thirteen, researchers
team found out that it was home was likely originating
from Zug Island, which is industrial island on the U.
S side of the river that houses steel meals and

(54:42):
steel mills and factories. And it actually became a point
of international strife where Canada had you know what it was.
It was a thirty five hurtz tone emanating from a
US steel blast furnace, and diplomatic efforts were made with

(55:06):
the US to address it and they were basically told
naget bent. And then when the hum disappeared in twenty twenty,
when the factory closed.

Speaker 1 (55:19):
Well there, but well there's an interesting connection. But again
they found are they theorized because they were never able
to get a look to pinpoint the equipment, but they
knew that there was a kind of equipment there that
would likely be generating again a thirty five herz constant
consistent tone.

Speaker 3 (55:37):
Yeah, right in that range.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
So I think the range of it is what's freaking
me out more than anything, because that that's showing some
consistency that tone range is apparently I mean, making people irritable,
causing those bleeds. I mean, this is like out right
out of some sort of CIA let's see what noise

(56:00):
can do to the brain kind of project that nobody
wanted to talk about to me, right, So anyway.

Speaker 3 (56:08):
Yeah, I mean this is a worldwide comomy. We've been
talking mostly about the US and UK and Canada, but
there's been reports about it all over the world of
you know, in Auckland, New Zealand, you know, all over
you know, and they're like with the uh, the sky trumpets.
There's a lot of theories about it. You know, obviously

(56:28):
the man made compressors, generators and pumps that you know,
low frequency you know, like in uh West Seattle hum
in the nineties was traced to a vacuum pump and
a concrete plant.

Speaker 18 (56:42):
You know.

Speaker 3 (56:42):
It was when the company fixed the muffler, the hum vanished,
but like the ones in Auckland, New Zealand, couldn't be
explained with the annoying hum. You know, you could be
distance ships, diesel engines, or industrial power plants, or even
power lines to transformers, but they couldn't narrow it down
to anything, but the people still complained about the hum.

(57:04):
This one was around fifty or sixty hertz.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
I think one of the things that was most interesting
to me as we get more into this stuff is
some of the various explanations that they had found, like
there could have been some geological or seismic activity in
the area causing it. I think one of my favorite
ones ties back to stuff that we've already been talking about,
which was electromagnetic electromagnetic signals like ELF and VLF. So

(57:33):
this theorizes could the hum be maybe not a sound
at all, but some sort of electromagnetic phenomenon that certain
people can somehow and I use air quotes here here.
One theory involves, of course, extremely low frequency ELF radio waves.
Militaries have used ELF radio around twenty herds to communicate
with submarines underwater, as our good friend Alan that Chad

(57:56):
had already mentioned earlier. According to David Dimmings, speculation was
that the hum might be caused by an ELF broadcast,
for instance, from naval communication planes or stations that only
some individuals detect, possibly through auditory bone conduction, which would
explain why in most cases they don't really claim to
be hearing it as much as feeling it, because it's

(58:18):
actually being conducted through auditory bone.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
So, you know, one of the studies I found interesting too,
there was a French study in twenty sixteen that at
least you know, for the coastal folk that it is
what has been a term coin was micro seismus, which
is from waves impacting on the sea floor causing minuscule earthquakes.

Speaker 1 (58:48):
Micro quakes. Yeah, I mean it's possible. I mean, well,
think about that from another perspective though, because and this
ties into that same theory we always talk about, especially
you know, for those of us that have done time
as first responders, we always talk about how it really

(59:10):
isn't a myth that people act crazy during the full
moon because we've lived it. Ask any doctors or nurses
people that respond to emergency calls. Traffic for some reason
always goes up during full moons, and that is primarily
because people are theorizing, which is where the term lunatic
actually came from before anybody really understood the science of it,
that the lunar cycles actually impact how our water cycles

(59:35):
work on the planet, and we are what seventy percent water,
So think about that for a second. If there's some
sort of a tone coming up from the ocean floor,
maybe it's resonating with the water in people's bodies and
is causing them to kind of feel weird because of it.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
I mean, that could be why I only you know,
to ten percent can hear.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
It, because I mean, not everybody goes nuts during a
full moon, but a lot of people do.

Speaker 3 (01:00:02):
Yeah. I remember when, I remember when this was a
big topic on ourt belt too. One of the leading
theories was, yeah, because you had just done, you know,
work on his book, the quickening.

Speaker 4 (01:00:14):
Was the uh.

Speaker 3 (01:00:17):
Precursor groaning of the earth before a pull shift.

Speaker 1 (01:00:24):
Yeah, I mean, going going back to the I mean
the the hum and even the trumpets. Some of the
theories and we didn't really because we were up against
the break. But some of the theories for both of
these are a lot of people are reporting that they're
they're noticing or hearing these weird sounds within days or

(01:00:44):
weeks of earthquakes in the same region.

Speaker 4 (01:00:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Now, now that hasn't been one hundred percent all of
the time, but it's happened enough that people have started noticing.

Speaker 3 (01:00:54):
Well, I mean, that's the thing. I mean, unless you
live in an earthquake area too, you'll hear a phrase
and it's one of those things that you know, if
you don't haven't experienced it enough, you people kind of
roll their eyes at. And that's earthquake weather where you've
got this weird crackly you know, kind of like you're

(01:01:14):
constantly taking off a wolf sweater. You always feel like
you've got this static electricity about you that you can't
discharge on anything.

Speaker 1 (01:01:24):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:01:24):
It's like usually if you were to like take your
sweater off you and put your hand on your mouse,
you're gonna shock your mouth, which also kill your mouse
and maybe your motherboard. So I always discharged before. Excuse me,
but uh no, you just feel this really weird. You're
just like this electromagnetism right before in the days leading
up to an earthquake.

Speaker 1 (01:01:46):
That reminds me of something that my my dad, who
wasn't actually struck by lightning, became dangerously close. There was
something he was trying to do with his truck right
as there was like a pop up thunderstorm starting to happen,
and he was actually he was touching his truck and
he started you could see the hair on his head
starting to stand up, and that's when he backed away

(01:02:08):
from the truck and read about them. When within I
think twenty or thirty yards, lightning struck and my dad
was like, holy crap. But he was like describing the feeling,
you know, within seconds of him realizing what was about
to happen, because he could just there was like this
this electrical hum that started try just filling the air
around him, and the hair on the back of his
neck stood up, and the hair on his head started

(01:02:30):
standing up. And considering my dad's already been electrocuted once,
which is a story for another day because it's kind
of my fault, but not on purpose, but still it
was like yeah, not again, but yed. So it just
kind of goes to that same thing where there's there
are tells for things. I mean, like around here, I

(01:02:52):
always know when it's gonna storm really bad because I
live in a very agrarian area, and anytime there's even
like a chance of there's gonna be a bad stromio lotus,
all the livestocks start moving towards the fence and camping
out over there in case they after run. So so
some of this stuff could very well be nature's way

(01:03:12):
of trying to let us know, Hey, there's some bad
things about to be happening.

Speaker 3 (01:03:16):
There's some shit coming, And.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
It could be because it does happen with a lot
of like a small percentage of people. Because I remember
when I first moved to places like Seattle and Delaware,
I would always tell them, hey, it's about to rain,
Like what are you talking about? Like that I can
spell the rain. What do you mean you can smell
the rain? I'm telling you, I can smell the rain,
And usually within ten or fifteen minutes it's our raining.
And they would look at me like I would. They

(01:03:39):
looked at me like I was insane, until they were like, oh, no,
you're crazy. Well we'll keep playing football. Next thing we know,
not only is it raining, but we're getting pelted with
hale and I'm like, I fucking told.

Speaker 3 (01:03:48):
You this sucks. Yeah. I don't think my world has
ever been as shook as it was the time that
I found out that lightning strikes up before it strikes down.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Yeah, that's that's interesting. Well, I mean it makes sense
because it's pulling all the Yeah, it's pulling everything up
and then sending it back down. But anyway, I realized
we're long, so we got to do the top of
the hour stuff, all right, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah,
well we should still go ahead and to the top

(01:04:18):
of the hour stuff, and then we got nothing else
behind us, so if we don't get through all the material,
we can stay a couple of minutes late. It's nothing
in other world.

Speaker 3 (01:04:25):
Well that and I'm almost drink free, so I need
to deal with that.

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Speaker 1 (01:10:17):
Dream Man, I thought I.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
Was sing government.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
You know what i'most You're not allowed to talk about
the Gremlins anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:10:42):
More.

Speaker 8 (01:10:42):
Shadow Secretstine conspiracy.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Whatever is going on. It's that much show. I don't
know what's going on, So I'm going to go back
to the standard intro just so we can get through
this thing. Hang on, Oh well, welcome back in. We're

(01:11:41):
gonna keep trying to do this thing anyway. I guess,
I guess re streams being glitchy tonight or something. I
don't know what's going on. Even the stuff computer side
is being glitchy, so I know it's not Internet anyway.
We're here, we're live. Well, well, so the thing that

(01:12:02):
happened a second ago because I had to reset the router,
they've now set it up to where you can actually
have multiple sources and multiple things playing in the same pain,
which is awesome because it's something that I've been asking
them to do for a while because it makes it
easier for me to set things up. But at the
same time, there's also this weird glitch where if you
have to reconnect while you have a scene open, it

(01:12:22):
tries to move everything into the single panel that you're
on at the time, which is why there for a
second you were hearing the break music and the commercials
and everything all at once. So yeah, that I'm going
I'm gonna have to be like, hey, you guys, the
stuff keeps glitching out. When it does, it makes everything
super weird. That's why Zelda's having nightmares about our commercial,

(01:12:43):
because it happened to me one night and I had
the volume down on the main part of my board,
so I didn't know that anytime I was sharing a
screen to try to show like one of the articles
or something that that volume was playing in, that commercial
was playing in the background. So every time I shared
the screen was like, hey, do you have to talk
about our lord and say your MINNICKI? And then I
would click off of it and come back to show

(01:13:04):
the next article and do it again again. And I
realized what people were trying to tell me, and I
turned up the volume and I'm like, oh shit, I'm sorry,
and I was like, I hate you and I hate
this guy. Well that explains it, but anyway, so yeah,
so there may or may not be one screen sharing
going on for the rest of the night, but we'll

(01:13:24):
get through the episode because uh yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (01:13:29):
Do love that we are at the point of technology
where we are annoyed by something five years ago was
inconceivable for us being able to do any right. Five
years ago we were doing our shows on Skype. Thank
you Jeff for bringing us into the twenty first century.
But yeah, and if I seem oftennight, it's just the

(01:13:52):
night for it. My back isn't doing awesome, so I
have to keep readjusting to find a position that doesn't
feel like my tailbone's going completely numb. So if I
see him distracted or off, I apologize.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
Well, I mean, I guess it's the nighte Forard all
the way around, because it's been a weird night for
me too. But I was like, you know what we've
been We've been talking about this one now for almost
three weeks that we're gonna get through over the other. Yeah,
we're doing alive right right.

Speaker 3 (01:14:22):
So we've done air, we've done land. Now it's time
to talk about the sea. Do we have to which
we got to do the sea? And most of these
actually come from Noah because they have got little microphones
all over the world in the ocean. Unfortunately, because they
all come from Noah, they also have the convenient explanation

(01:14:45):
for it's the same explanation for all. And this is
what I was talking about earlier, where oh it's just
swamp gas. It's venus reflecting off the swamp gas, and
that's why you saw UFO. In this case, it's all icebergs.

Speaker 1 (01:15:00):
Well, how can they blame icebergs when there aren't any?

Speaker 3 (01:15:04):
Right, Yes, I thought they were all gone.

Speaker 1 (01:15:10):
I mean, according to the father of the Internet, we
were supposed to be iceberg free by now. I would
just like to put that out.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
Well, in fairness, these were a lot of these were
in the nineties, and we got to start with my
favorite one, in the Bloop. You know you probably had
audio for that.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
I did, but I don't know if it's I don't
think it's gonna work now, So you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
Want to give it a shot, and if not, we'll
just pull out real quick.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
I hang on, I gotta reload it though.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
Okay, So that's how we were working on. So The
Bloop was first recorded in nineteen ninety seven in the
South Pacific. It was an incredibly loud, low frequency rumble
that rapidly rose and pitch over about a minute. It
was detected by hydrophones over three thousand miles apart, which
means it was extremely intense. The sound wave form had

(01:16:02):
a unique pattern. It was originally puzzling, but then it
resembled the audio profile of a living creature, like a
whale call, and yet it was more powerful than any
known animal noise. Interestingly enough, the location that it was
zeroed down to is off the coast of Chili the
Sun near the Antarctica, and for any of you who

(01:16:24):
have read a Lovecraft, it is remarkably close to where
the sunken city of Relic is, where Cthulhu sleeps dreaming.
I h And that's when it really took the Internet
by storms, when people realized where the sound was coming from,

(01:16:46):
and everybody was talking about was waking up. Noah of
course said that it was an ice quake.

Speaker 5 (01:17:00):
I have it.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
Let's cry it and see if it works.

Speaker 3 (01:17:01):
Okay, let's play it.

Speaker 1 (01:18:09):
That's what they all say, Stephen, that's what they all say.
You know, first time I heard this one, you know what,
I thought that that star trek for the voyage home,
there would be whales here exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:18:25):
So that was obviously that wasn't that was processed so
we could hear it, and there was several of them,
but that is generally what it was described to sound like.
It was recorded again in two thousand and five. And
in twenty twelve, Yeah, they effectually said, yeah, you know,

(01:18:48):
this happened to coincide with a known birthing of a
iceberg off of Antarctica. And as I go through these
and they all have that same story, I'm like, correlation
is not causation. Yeah, it's just too convenient too. I mean, yeah,

(01:19:11):
I'm sure that makes one hell of a noise when
it happens, but for the variety of sounds and the
rarity of it, you know, because these higrophones are out
there all the time, but they're not picking up every
iceberg that's breaking loose. They're not breaking every glacial crack.

Speaker 19 (01:19:35):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:19:36):
Well, I mean, and the thing about it is that's
that's that to me, that is not wooden iceberg. You know,
breaking off from the ice off would even sound like
I wouldn't think.

Speaker 3 (01:19:50):
Yeah, And I understand sounds sound different underwater. I get that,
and you know, the fuckery with thermal client and everything else,
just I'm not getting that. It's not a cracking sound.
It's I mean, if you were saying that it was

(01:20:11):
dragging across the ocean floor, I'll give you that, But
to be heard by two different hydrophones three thousand miles apart.
That's maybe on Jonesy playing Paganini out of the submarine,

(01:20:32):
Bavaratti coming out of their asses.

Speaker 1 (01:20:35):
That was that was a nice hunter for at October reference.

Speaker 3 (01:20:38):
Thank you, thank you, thank you very much.

Speaker 1 (01:20:40):
I just wanted to point out that I finally got
once because like, I can't believe you didn't get that
that one I got. That one I got.

Speaker 3 (01:20:51):
That was a little happening.

Speaker 1 (01:20:53):
All right, Hey, don't don't don't put a hanging fruit card.
I'm gonna take it. I want to relasion this.

Speaker 3 (01:20:59):
Second take the win. Uh did you happen to any
the other ones, like Julia or the up suite?

Speaker 1 (01:21:06):
Yeah, I have the I have Julia here. It's gonna okay.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
Cool. So the next one, Julia, was recorded in March first,
nineteen ninety nine. It was nicknamed Julia because of its eerie,
undulating moan sound that lasted about fifteen seconds. When it's
played back and sped up, it sounds like a distant whaling,
you know, a woman's cry, or you know, like band

(01:21:30):
che's on the moors. And again this was a huge
iceberg running around, dragging across the sea floor. But again
for it to have to be sped up. Yea again
going back to Red October. You know, sounded like whales

(01:21:51):
humping until they sped it up, and then it obviously
was man made. I'm just yeah it but apparent you're
you gonna hear a whale call or a voice, and
here we go. Maybe maybe.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
Well I had a timestamp earlier and I lost it
when I had to reseaid, so, so, yeah, what did

(01:22:57):
you hear? It sounded like whale song to me, kind
of sounded like a woman's voice to me, I'm not
gonna lie, I couldn't make out what was being said,
but that was the tone that sounded like somebody trying
to say something from a really long distance or something.
So okay, I can kind of get why everybody's like,
you're either gonna hear this or this, because yeah, I

(01:23:19):
heard I heard a female voice. It was muffled. I
don't know what they were trying to say, but it
sounded like a female voice to me.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
Yeah, now that you injected that, I can hear it
from memory, you know, kind of like a low muttering
but from a distance.

Speaker 1 (01:23:35):
Yeah, okay, Well, I think for me it's it's the
it's the the tone because it it does have kind
of a higher pitch tone like normally a female voice
would have. So I think that maybe what my brain
interpreted it that way. But yeah, to me, that that's
what I heard. I don't know if you hadn't mentioned
that beforehand, I don't know if that's what I would
have heard, but that's definitely what I heard.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
Right, Yeah, so I injected the Okay, did you get
any the other ones too? Just sign out a pause form.

Speaker 1 (01:24:04):
Or I am grabbing them as we speak, because I
lost a lot of my stuff because I had them
kind of sort of bookmarked, but I still have to
go back and kind of found them find them again.
So the next one that I had on the list
from kind of going in order from the stuff was
the upsweep.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
Okay, so well, i'll talk about it while you look
for that. First detected at ninety one when the Pacific
Monitoring Network first came online. The upsweek is an intriguing
sound because it's ongoing to this day, it's still happening.
It consists of a long sequence of narrow band upsweeping sounds,

(01:24:42):
sort of like a repeating siren whale that rises in
pitch each for several seconds long, and they happened seasonally,
increasing in the spring of the fall. And it's been
roughly located near volcanic arcs in the South Pacific, you know,

(01:25:05):
possibly lava or hypothermal events interacting with seawater. It just
seems I don't know, that doesn't seem like you would,
you know, make the kind of sound as being described.
When you find it, we'll hear it. But the exact
mechanism isn't confirmed. It's just postulated that that could be it.
This one actually does remain unexplained a right, and here

(01:25:29):
we go.

Speaker 1 (01:25:58):
Am the only one that kind of gets by that one?

Speaker 3 (01:26:01):
Yes, definitely, No, you're not the only one that definitely
creeped me out. Now in the description, that video doesn't
say it was sped up or anything, right.

Speaker 1 (01:26:11):
I don't think so, hang on, I can find out.

Speaker 3 (01:26:14):
Because if that's actual speed, actual noise, I cannot imagine
a volcanic seawater interaction that would cause that noise.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
Oh no, actually it was sped up. This is the
sound at sixteen time. Me see if I can find
one that says not modified.

Speaker 3 (01:26:33):
No, that's why we can just figure out in your
head slow it down still that's pretty rapid, you know,
and for it to only happened in the spring of
the fall, I get it, Okay, that's when. Yeah, it's
still as the earth is tilting. I did find.

Speaker 1 (01:26:57):
At normal speed, so'll hang on, hang on, it's only
like twenty seconds. Hello, and of course it's gonna start doing.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
I could faintly hear it in the background.

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
Yeah, I mean I can. I can't really hear it
as well in that one, but I can't say what
little bit I hear. It does make it sound more
like some sort of a natural phenomenon, so that's what
I want to kind.

Speaker 3 (01:27:47):
Of to hear.

Speaker 14 (01:27:48):
Okay, it does sound bloopy though, yeah, a little bit. Yeah,
huhm mm.

Speaker 3 (01:28:00):
Now I'm mixed on that one. Okay. The other one,
the big one, is the slowdown. They have the cues.
In nineteen ninety seven, hydrophones recorded a sound dub the
slowdown because literally it decreases in frequency over about seven minutes,

(01:28:20):
like a spinning machine winding down. It starts at a
high pitch then slowly drops into a lower pitch. And
this was actually traced down the Antarctic Peninsula. Another iceberg event,
or perhaps a seaquake, but again it's not really definitive

(01:28:41):
in that one. They speculate that it's a massive ice
chunk scraping on the ocean floor that would change its
tone as it accelerates, but what it is nobody really knows.
So the sensors for this one were five three thousand
miles apart that picked it up. So it's definitely a

(01:29:02):
big energetics force. Do you have that one or no?

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
Yep, I got it.

Speaker 3 (01:29:07):
Excellent.

Speaker 1 (01:29:42):
Okay, I think that's about all that one's gonna let
me play because I think my Internet is trying to
be sick.

Speaker 3 (01:29:48):
Yeah that I couldn't tell much from background see noise,
but I definitely could tell it was slowing down. That's
the one thing with hydrophones is because there is so
much noise in the see that picking up that background
stuff is like picking up a you know, astronomically, it's
like pinpointing that one star you know that's just doing

(01:30:10):
something weird, the one that smells like steak or something.

Speaker 1 (01:30:15):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:30:17):
Oh, but they always want to jump this into geology
or glaciology and always blame it on Antarctica. But just
to think that breaking ice is that loud, that three
thousand miles away between hygrophones. It's picking up the same sound. Now,

(01:30:41):
what it could be if not that, I don't know.
But that's huge. I mean you think about that. That's
two hygrophones the distance of San Diego and Florida from
each other, and picking that sound up in both locations.

Speaker 1 (01:31:02):
Seems crazy, don't it.

Speaker 3 (01:31:04):
Yeah, I know, water is a great conductor for sounding.
It's just it's just too creepy. But you know, when
ninety five percent of the ocean remains unmapped and not explored,
I mean, who's to say that there isn't something down there?

Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
Yeah, I mean, that's just it. That's That's one of
the things that I've always thought was funny about the
whole thing of space being termed the final frontier. There's
still so much that we don't know about our ocean.
I don't I think we should be paying more attenger
to that, if I'm being honest. Yeah, but I have
a feeling the reason we don't know more about our
ocean probably has a lot to do with the same
reason why we haven't been back to our moon.

Speaker 3 (01:31:45):
Told Notch come back.

Speaker 1 (01:31:47):
I think that's probably happening.

Speaker 3 (01:31:49):
I'm still dying about that CBS thing. I know we
don't talk politics on the show, but just well, you know,
the indigenous people of the Moon might not be too
happy with our colonization.

Speaker 1 (01:32:01):
Excuse me, did you just say the quiet part out loud?
Are you nuts? I can't figure out.

Speaker 3 (01:32:07):
What you want? Yeah? So kay, we could just we
still got a lot in that segment. I mean, just
with the cold barhole. You know, let's save the cold
borehole for after the break. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:32:27):
I'm gonna have to do something else for the break
because my internet's being too wunky to try to play
that video again, So I'm gonna.

Speaker 3 (01:32:32):
Have to figure out.

Speaker 4 (01:32:32):
Okay, so.

Speaker 3 (01:32:37):
That's a bummer.

Speaker 1 (01:32:38):
Yeah, this is this is why I say, don't talk
about the Gremlins.

Speaker 3 (01:32:43):
Okay, I will not speak of the Gremlins anymore. I
will not do jinxes on a show. We jinxed it,
We jaxed it.

Speaker 1 (01:32:49):
Don't talk about the Yeah. I even tried to. I
was gonna try to upload its service side and the
video is too big, so I gotta play. They can
take a lot of the weight off of it if
I could just upload it to restream, and Restream was like, hey,
you want to pay me forty five dollars a month
for that one. I'm like, no, not really, not really, No,
I'm good. Thanks, So how is I have no idea

(01:33:14):
what to play now, I'll just.

Speaker 3 (01:33:16):
Pick anything, Peter Murphy, whatever you got on your vocal.

Speaker 1 (01:33:26):
I'm just gonna run through my phone and put to
put it on my network or on the phone not
my network, so that way I know for.

Speaker 3 (01:33:34):
Sure whatever's clever. I'll just stay here doing shadow puppets
do a little Michigan j frog. Hello, Hello, my dar Hello,
Am I right?

Speaker 1 (01:33:48):
Tom? Yeah, all right, I have no idea what this is,
but it's Peter Murphy. So we're gonna go to break.

Speaker 3 (01:33:53):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
Stay tuned.

Speaker 3 (01:33:54):
Oh secret.

Speaker 9 (01:34:13):
And Tom, I'm thinking of towns, you wads. I'm stopping
drinking little several words. I'm gonna ask some kids freeso up.

Speaker 7 (01:34:26):
Gonna as a king to tree sa.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
Look me befo.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
Like, why.

Speaker 7 (01:34:42):
Oh look, you don't got some secret or some lovely
fat not being brownings.

Speaker 19 (01:35:14):
I found the secret, then it's not too lady's It

(01:35:36):
has me showing by then, how steady.

Speaker 7 (01:35:40):
I'm bling down his Christ and spreading joke. Now I'm
teaching how to tend the fun looks, she tells the
blue eyes.

Speaker 11 (01:35:57):
Like a whine.

Speaker 7 (01:35:59):
Okay, don't got some secret. Don't doubt meself. I'm thinking.

Speaker 1 (01:36:55):
Helps if I realize I muted in two places. Welcome
back into the program, Laate and gentlemen, this is the
train Wreck Radio Show.

Speaker 3 (01:37:05):
Yeah. You know he's got a couple of good songs.
That was not one of them. Yeah, he picked it
at random.

Speaker 1 (01:37:15):
Yeah, I could tell you didn't like it when you
were like when you type back like a minute and
a half, and I was like, yeah, he didn't like
this one. Yeah, he was like, I'm back, I'm back,
make it stop. Anyway, The news is I think I
may have temporarily beat things back for a minute because
I did a quick renew in all the videos that

(01:37:35):
we wanted to play again on X started playing. So
I think I think we might have fixed it for
the moment. We'll see how long it holds. But anyway,
so you'd mentioned that you wanted to skip something, but
I didn't see it, So yeah, let's skip the hole.
I mean it sounds boring, kidding, yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:37:58):
Well that one. I mean it's creepy and it's fun,
and I know art Bell had a great time with it,
but it's obviously think.

Speaker 1 (01:38:07):
Well, I mean and honestly, that is one of the
ones we've actually done on a different show anyway, so
they can always go back in ears talk about that one.

Speaker 3 (01:38:14):
So, yeah, if you're not familiar with it, the Cola
Warhole was the It was a Russian project. It was
the deepest drilling project at the time, and the story
goes that they dropped microphones down there and heard the
agonizing screams of hell. But that's later been debunked, so

(01:38:38):
it was admitted to be a hoax by the hoax perpetrator.
So but it's fun that was.

Speaker 1 (01:38:44):
That before after we did this segment, because at the time,
I don't think we had known that it was after
that was that was one of the I think that
was in like our very first year doing this show
when we did that one, I think, which.

Speaker 3 (01:38:56):
It was one of those things that that was also
when we Okay, we've recently, for researching the show, have
embraced AI a little bit because with the topic. For
those of you who've been listening to this for a while,
I've heard me say this time and again, heard us
say it time and again, Researching the topics we do
on the show is probably some of the hardest I've

(01:39:19):
ever had to do, and I know Ricky feel kind
of the same on this one, because so much of
what we talk about has been polluted by pop culture
and it just it's like pulling teeth. So finding the debunked,
you know, the the debunking of the Cola Borhole at
the time probably would have had to go pretty deep

(01:39:40):
because the Internet, loving a mystery and loving the creepy
and the creepypasta, all the links to percolate it, you know,
to prove it would percolate up. But usually when we
would find something that would debunk it, it would be
eight to ten pages deep on a Google search. So
we've been using you know, various A agents to help

(01:40:01):
us weed through that. You know, when you give any
very specific instructions avoid pop culture references. So like you know,
when we were doing the vampire shows, we would get
halfway through a page of research and go, oh fuck,
that's true Blood, just that true Blood fanfic. Yeah. So
so it's gotten and interesting with this topic too, because

(01:40:23):
we have been using AI this particular topic. I asked
GPT if you could because it's it helped us research
it a bit. I asked that, you know, if you
could do a topic on anything, what would you what
would you do it on? It suggested this topic, which
had never occurred to Rick Ory because we've done all
these parts of other shows, but never to coalesce into one.

Speaker 1 (01:40:46):
Well, to go a little further into this because you
know there because we had planned on doing a lot
more of the heavy audio video stuff and we've tried
to incorporate it as must as we can around the
Grimblin issues that I think to be having tonight. Interesting
little side note, it took me over an hour, uh
spaced out over yesterday and today to find all the
audio video clips that I was going to use. So

(01:41:07):
once I had them and I knew where to find them,
as a test, I asked GPT, you know, please scan
the above show notes and find the best audio video
and visual things to go along with the topics discussed.
And of course after I hit enter, it said, okay,
so do you want best audio quality? Would you prefer YouTube?

(01:41:28):
What would you like me to use here? So I said, yes,
please use YouTube and best audio quality. Within two minutes,
it spit out half the things that I had found
in three or four more that I didn't.

Speaker 4 (01:41:39):
You suck.

Speaker 3 (01:41:41):
Yeah, it's not like we're writing. You know, AI take
over the show for us and we're just reading it.
It's saving us so much research time. But I was
just amazed that, you know, it came up with this
topic because I never would have thought of it.

Speaker 1 (01:41:58):
Well, I mean, well, to be fair, you you have
kind of your your chat GPT, you kind of made
into a mini you because so I wasn't that surprised.
I will admit I was not a fan of GPT
at first. I was more of a Grock kid. And
the more we've messed with GPT, I'm like, it's it's
asking me all the right questions, even what I wanted
to do. So I actually kind of liked this a

(01:42:18):
little more.

Speaker 3 (01:42:20):
Yeah, and we could thank Jeff for that because due
to my frustrations I was having with Grock ones, he
was telling me everything you know he's been pulling off
for GPT, and I said, okay, I'll give it a shot,
and yeah, you have to beat it into submission, but
once you do, you have one hell of a research assistant.
So I've been using it to help with that home
network setup and navigating having an older reparent and how

(01:42:42):
to get all the ducks in a row. So yeah,
it's uh, it's it's quite the useful tool when you know,
when you figure out how to get it to do
what you wanted to do and not just be off
the shelf chat butt.

Speaker 1 (01:42:57):
So yeah, I will admit it actually has some pretty
interesting layers. Like I was kind of surprised a couple
of times that's come back when I've asked them to
do things and tried to clarify to make sure it's
getting me exactly what I want. And I'm like, oh,
I like you now, but.

Speaker 3 (01:43:13):
Thank you for asking the right questions. But it's also
annoying when I tell it exactly what I wanted to
do when it comes back with a prompt asking me
if are you you know, like clippy, are you sure this?

Speaker 8 (01:43:26):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:43:27):
Are you sure this is a good idea? Just do
what I told you to do? But yeah, speaking of AI,
this is a bit of a side note my aunt
posted today on Facebook. One of my aunts was like,
does anyone else find themselves using please and thank you
when talking to AI? And I'm like, yes, I'm always
pollecting our future overlords, did, she responded. She responded, it's

(01:43:51):
funny because my granddaughter basically just said the same thing, yes, saying.

Speaker 3 (01:43:57):
Yeah, I mean I've realized, you know, I mean, if
they're going to be spying on it, might as well,
you know, like have it keep the actual insurrection seditious
parts out of their reports on us. So what's it
all mean? Yeah, Ritchie for a.

Speaker 1 (01:44:21):
Second, No, you're fine. So anyway, so in case you're
just joining us, we've been talking about sounds of the end.
We've talked about the trumpets, We've talked about the hum
We did skip over one because we've now discovered it's
been debunked. But so the question is, you know, with

(01:44:42):
these things happening, what what what could it possibly mean? So,
I mean, there are all kinds of different symbolisms inside
of faiths about the different sounds. I mean, we've talked
about it in the beginning of the show, because Ama
should pointed out that in a couple of the videos
you can plainly hear that these were very loud disconcern
sounds and people were walking around as if they couldn't

(01:45:02):
hear them. And that's when I had pointed out that
in you know in especially like in the Book of
Revelations and in a few other religious texts. They pointed
out that if and when these sounds occurred, not everybody
would be able to hear them, which is when I
joke that people have been telling me they've been hearing
them around here and I haven't been hearing them. Now
we're concerned about my status in heaven.

Speaker 3 (01:45:22):
Yeah, Well, I found interesting while researching all this too,
is that you know, in the infrasonic range, we know
about how whale was, especially like blue whales and fin whales.
You know, they can sing, you know, hundreds of miles
apart to each other, and then they're usually at you know,

(01:45:42):
ten to twenty hurts and using the ocean channels like
we were hearing with the blop and everything else getting
through it. What I didn't know, and I probably should have,
but it's a hole in my knowledge because I do
actually find elephants quite fascinating. But they do have vocalizations
at fifteen to thirty five hurts that can travel up
to a miles through the ground, and they hear more

(01:46:04):
of this through their feet than through their ears through
the ground vibrations, and you know, we can't pick that up,
you know, distinctly. But you know a lot of other
animals too, alligators, hippos, and even some you know, some
birds produce infrasound communications for navigation or you know, kind

(01:46:27):
of like the same way that you know, sea anles
use echo location, you know, like dolphins and stuff bats
use echo location as well. So it and like we
were talking about with the Taois hum and other things,
you know, at ultra low frequency, it can travel a
very long distance, you know, because of his low low attenuation.

(01:46:51):
And it's speculated that maybe one of those things that
we have evolved out of that's why some people can
are still genetic pre you know, some people with genetic
traits are able to hear these ultra low frequencies where
we can't now. What I wanted to mention earlier too,
was you know when we were talking about the hums

(01:47:13):
that you know these are often heard at night. Well,
it's like when we were talking about the Shadow People
last show. That's when you're in your liminal state, You're
you're not engaged, you know, the whole world becomes quiet,
and then you're actually your own brain is starting to
just decompress and pull apart the day. So obviously you

(01:47:33):
can go to sleep, and that's when you're going to
pick up something like that if you're predisposed to do so,
because the noise of the world has stopped and now
you're just there with your thoughts.

Speaker 1 (01:47:47):
I mean that that's that's actually not a bad point,
because that that is kind of the thing about it.
You have to understand some of this, some of this
stuff happening at night could very well be because that's
when your brain does start trying to, for want of
a better term, maybe slowing down a little bit. For
people whose brains actually do that, I for one, usually

(01:48:09):
have to use some sort of some sort of assistant
to make that happen because my brain never really shuts up.
But I can see why that would kind of be
a thing where, you know, maybe you're more susceptible to
these things as it's later in the day and you're
relaxing a bit more and your guards let down. But
I do find it interesting because we keep coming back

(01:48:29):
to this about how only a certain percentage of people
can hear them, and it just makes me wonder because
you'd mentioned, you know, maybe it's something that a good
portion of the population has evolved out of being able
to hear What would it have been for these apparently
more primitive people that when maybe more of us could
hear them, What purpose would it have served? Is another

(01:48:51):
question that I now have because a lot of these
things they evoke a visceral fear. That's just you know,
kind of tying into some of the stuff that Corn
and I have been talking about with the ecoustic field
and everything else. Because even though we may not be
able to hear them, when we hear them on shows
like this, and we've talked about them on a couple

(01:49:13):
of different ones, was I the only one who was
really freaked out by that that sound?

Speaker 8 (01:49:17):
So?

Speaker 1 (01:49:17):
What is it from either our distant past or whatever
the case may be, that is triggered when we hear
that sound that causes us to have this just visceral
reaction of oh, this is bad and this is not good?
What's going on that?

Speaker 3 (01:49:29):
It's interesting?

Speaker 1 (01:49:31):
Sorry I mean to step on you, No, go ahead,
You're fine.

Speaker 3 (01:49:34):
What's interesting is that, you know, researchers have found that
the big cats, you know, lions, jaguars, tigers and such,
they do admit an infrasonic sound too that triggers a
flight or fight or freezer flight response and generally what's
their prey. So when they roar or growl, there's this

(01:49:58):
infrasonic sound two that will either paralyze them in place
or caused or you know, you chase them out of
the brush. You know, it's like kicking up a pheasant,
you know where it's like with that growl, all of
a sudden, the flight response takes over, you know, in
rabbit or whatever they're going to eat, and then it

(01:50:20):
bolts out of its hiding place. And then it's like, okay, well,
you know, just you know, there's dinner, so and that
may be, you know, because we all kind of came
from the Rift Valley, you're part of our part of
our response in that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:32):
Too, could be, could be.

Speaker 3 (01:50:36):
You know what I found interesting in researching this too
is you know you're talking about in your area, how
you know, cattle and you know livestock will go for
the fence so they can flee, you know, when the
storm's coming. I didn't know this when until we were
researching this. Tornadoes do have an infasonic signature howl at
one to ten hurts.

Speaker 1 (01:50:58):
Now see I didn't know that either.

Speaker 3 (01:51:01):
So Yeah, they've been testing it for an early warning
system too too, to start listening in that range.

Speaker 1 (01:51:14):
That's interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:51:15):
Yeah, So, I mean it just goes with everything that
is dangerous seems, you know, like earthquakes, volcanoes and such.
You know, I was talking about earthquake weather and you know,
you kind of feel a pressure or hum, you know,
or a static electric electric charge you can't get rid

(01:51:36):
of you And animals pick up on that ship all
the time.

Speaker 9 (01:51:40):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:51:40):
If you anybody who has had a dog or cat
who lives in earthquake character territory has seen them react
minutes before an earthquake.

Speaker 1 (01:51:54):
See, that's just weird to me. I mean it would
make sense, you know, because with and I hate to
keep coming back to this, but with doing the show
with Corn, I've kind of been coming to terms with
the fact that everything is interconnected in ways that we're
just now starting to understand and science is even starting
to back it up. So the fact that there would

(01:52:16):
be kind of early warning signs almost seems like nature
is trying to say, hey, you don't get out the way.
Yeah maybe me.

Speaker 3 (01:52:28):
Well, it's you know, in the military has been playing
with this too. I mean, you know, go ahead of
them trying to you know, establish the brown note. But
for you know, in riot control or loud loud crowd dispersal,
that the the infrasoun frequency that the Lions entited that

(01:52:48):
the Big Cats use is around eighteen hertz and it's
called the fear frequency, and it's they've been experimenting with
that too to get crowds to disperse.

Speaker 1 (01:53:04):
Now that's interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:53:05):
Well, you know as well as with the uh, the
brown note and various other you know, the sound can,
they went the other way, like with the sound can,
and that's very loud because the problem with infersonic sound
is that it's omni directional. You can't really focus it
the way you can, you know, out of a speaker.

Speaker 1 (01:53:31):
Yeah. I didn't really think about that, but you're right.
I guess that would kind of just go everywhere. Huh,
what's that? No, I was gonna say, you would think
that since it's sound, depending on the sourcing that you're
using to push it out, that you would still be
able to aim it. But I guess that one when
the lower frequencies have definite weird dispersal patterns, so that

(01:53:54):
would probably have something to.

Speaker 4 (01:53:55):
Do with it.

Speaker 3 (01:53:58):
But I don't know, no, just yeah, because that's more
of a what would be a good example was trying
to think something in the light spectrum. But there really
isn't anything that that would be like that, aside from
the way the particle wave function, which Jeff covered, so

(01:54:19):
we won't go into If you want to hear more
about that, listen to last week's in Increase. That was
a fascinating show. That was a great show. Well, I
was talking about with the military research in the sixties,
there was a researcher named Vladimir Gasrou who stumbled upon

(01:54:40):
infrasound and working in a large concrete building, he and
his co workers felt an unexplained to nausere pain whenever
they went into a specific room. They traced it down
to a ventilation motor that had a seven hurtz sympathetic vibration,
and so he started conducting tests with large sirens and

(01:55:04):
organ pipes at that at that range. And this is
one of those urban legends that gets bigger every time
the story was told. That one of the stories as well,
he was experimenting with it, he killed all of his
lab team by causing an uncontrollable illness resonating in the Organs.
But he's he actually was speculating that, you know, in

(01:55:27):
afrasonic emitter about eighteen feet across, mounted on a truck
with an aircraft engine could blast ten hert waves, you know,
across your enemy, killing somebody as far away as five miles.
But then again, infrasonic is omni directional, So how do
you trigger that one without you know, wiping your own

(01:55:50):
side out too?

Speaker 14 (01:55:53):
Eh?

Speaker 1 (01:55:53):
You know, except I mean, you know, depending on who's
in charge, some people may see that as acceptable losses. Yea,
as long as the other side goes crazy too, Who cares?
I don't know, but no, I mean, I'll this is
just so weird to think about because there's sound is
one of the sound is really weird. But believe it

(01:56:19):
or not, my friend, we are coming up to the
end of the two hours.

Speaker 3 (01:56:23):
All the all the grim ones and demons aside tonight.
I I like the topic. This was a fun one.

Speaker 1 (01:56:30):
Yeah, there's there's enough that we've actually left on the
table that we may be able to come back to
it in a few months to finish it up.

Speaker 3 (01:56:37):
Yeah. I was just going through my notes and we're
only yeah, overdid it on this one better over to
talk about.

Speaker 1 (01:56:47):
Better over prepared than under prepared, though, so I always
that because it's not like we don't usually come back
to topics at every few months anyway, So knowing that
we have a lot of meat left on this bone
is a good thing.

Speaker 3 (01:57:00):
And that's once again I gotta thank Delaney for putting
the bug in our ear, because we used to do
one hour on the show, and it seemed like we
were just doing primers over and primers, as I used
to say, over and over again, just to catch everybody
up to speed, and then we would have maybe fifteen
minutes of new material by the time we explained to
the whole thing. This two hour format now I'm loving

(01:57:20):
because now we get to go deep into it. And yeah,
like you said, we still have lots of meat on
this bone that we haven't touched.

Speaker 1 (01:57:27):
All right, So where can folks find you, sir?

Speaker 3 (01:57:30):
Oh, tomorrow you can find me on the Vincent Charles
Project what you Know was and we will be talking
about the Soomsons Tuesday. You can find me on Manorama
panel with you maybe someday Jeff, Vincent, Charles Rank or
Steve obviously and occasionally some Canadian Dajure Wednesday and back
with you on Rick and already and off the rest

(01:57:55):
of the hang on.

Speaker 1 (01:57:57):
You got two shows on Wednesday, sir.

Speaker 3 (01:57:59):
Oh that's right. We got Toxic Masculinity this week, too fantastic,
So you'll get a double dose of me and Rick
on Wednesday. How cool is that?

Speaker 1 (01:58:10):
Well, some people are like, please know, we're like shut up,
but no, so yeah, but yeah, this is Juxtavision weeks,
so we'll be doing that one. But yeah, so I
think you're you're off this this coming Thursday, and thanks
to their schedule that he likes to be off on
Saturday too, So yeah, I see what it is. Off,
I see why you did this. You're like, no, my

(01:58:31):
now I have like everything's heavy on like one weekend,
then I get more time off. I see what you do.

Speaker 3 (01:58:35):
It's gonna happen. Who's gonna want to come back?

Speaker 1 (01:58:39):
And I don't think so.

Speaker 3 (01:58:44):
I don't know. She's getting close to empty nesting.

Speaker 1 (01:58:46):
Yeah, I think that's gonna involve her moving back where
she came from and probably trying to figure out how
to retire though more than anything.

Speaker 3 (01:58:55):
Yeah maybe, but who knows. Stranger things have happened, So yeah,
I was just saying when my lockdown that we've moved
the schedule so I get it all in one week.

Speaker 1 (01:59:06):
Yeah, you'll be like, yes, what I was, Yeah, right,
you'd be like, I do twelve other shows now, so.

Speaker 3 (01:59:15):
No, I actually know I'm doing with fewer shows that
I used to.

Speaker 1 (01:59:19):
I know, right, that's weird, and now I'm back actually
just by one.

Speaker 3 (01:59:24):
Yeah, how about you work? People find you this week?

Speaker 1 (01:59:28):
Well, tomorrow night you can find me second here in
producing for Korn's reading room. I think this will probably
be either the last or next to last forty into
the philosophy of fire. It's become like a ten, seven,
eight nine part things so far. But I think I
know we're still dealing with that one tomorrow. I don't

(01:59:49):
know how much longer he's gonna want to stay in
that one, because he's said two or three times that
he was done with and he's like, you know what, there's.

Speaker 3 (01:59:55):
Still a lot of stuff here. So hey, while you're
on the topic, did you guys ever watch those videos
I sent you?

Speaker 4 (02:00:02):
I did.

Speaker 1 (02:00:02):
Yes, that's actually part of the topic that I was
working on before Chatchy beat spit out this one. So okay,
So yeah, I did watch those. I actually probably will
rewatch them again Faraly sometime this week too. But and
so that's tomorrow night.

Speaker 3 (02:00:21):
And then sent those torn because it's touching on what
you guys have been talking about.

Speaker 1 (02:00:26):
So yeah, he keeps teasing this book about the ecastic field,
and I'm like, I mean, it's his show, so I'm
trying not to tell him what to do, but I'm like,
I really, I really really really really really want to
move on to that book, and he hasn't gotten there yet. Okay, anyway,
so we're doing that tomorrow night. Monday night, we should
have it off the rails. Tuesday night, I will be

(02:00:46):
back on Manorama. I took last Tuesday night off because
I've decided I'm going to start doing that one about
two times a month because usually I'm trying to do
writing on the Tuesdays and I'm not on there. But
it was also because I was, you know, the Gremlins
all week Wednesday nights. We've already gone over most of that,
so I'm not going to do it again Thursday nights.
I think this is my week to produce for the

(02:01:08):
disasters and the making crew Friday that back with he says.
She said, Saturday night pushing buttons for the front Port
forensics crew when I'm not doing all that because it's
not like I have enough to do. You can find
me as a contributor on Twitter dot com, Misfits Politics
dot com occasionally, as well as the loft Sparty dot com,
and also a love Sparty podcast which drops on Tuesdays.

(02:01:29):
Other than that, you can find me on x at
Riddy Rick seventy three. Find our network at Knlin Radio
on most social media platforms. We also have a channel
that has been newly christened on Freedom Chat, which has
become a sponsor of the network, so feel free to
check that out too. I think that's it. I think
that's it for now. For now, all right, folks, we

(02:01:55):
are going to get out of here. I want to
thank the almost thirteen hundred of you that have been
hanging out with us for the last couple of hours.

Speaker 3 (02:02:03):
To apologize because I'm not at my best tonight, but
thank you for listening. Anyway.

Speaker 1 (02:02:10):
Your best is better than most people's, just so you know,
are your worst, I should say, no healing of the hydro.
We've had this discussion. Bye, everybody,

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