Jux Annual Mandela Effect Deep Dive Part 2

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The following program contains course language and adult themes. Listener,
I just crabed.

Speaker 19 (06:00):
Is it's confounding, truth disdating, memory takes it so but
think back, closing very much longer, realities lost all.

Speaker 20 (06:17):
I remember reading Berenstein, but now it's Berenstein the last
keeps sun shifting and questioning my brain.

Speaker 21 (06:28):
Let's do the Mandela again.

Speaker 15 (06:33):
Let's do the mandola again.

Speaker 21 (06:39):
It's just a slip in your.

Speaker 22 (06:41):
Eyes, Santa, in the time your memory take a twist.
Now the beast's a line it loony sous or looney Soon's.

Speaker 15 (06:54):
All this time.

Speaker 21 (06:56):
Let's do the Mandela again.

Speaker 1 (07:06):
And welcome back in for far too of our annual
deep dive into the Mandela effect. This is just a
position with one of every two weeks, every fortnite is
our good friend Bride with a good hair, like to say,
we take a deep dive into the weird, the unusual,
the unexplainable, and this time it is the Mandela Effect,
and there was so much material. One we owed you

(07:28):
guys an episode because we didn't do one two weeks ago,
so we did one last week, and now we're doing
one this week. And it's because there's lots of little
offshoots that have come out of the Mandela Effects. So
we're gonna finish the main Mandela stuff and then we're
gonna go into some of the offshoots and we're just
gonna go tell it's either two hours or until we
run out of gas, whichever one comes first. So I'm
rick he's already and you're not. And it may sound

(07:48):
weird in the second one already talks because there's two
of him, and I'm trying to find out which one
is the right one. I'm seeing too omish. I don't
know what to do. Good evening, sir, how are you?
Oh he's not responding. This is not good. I don't
think you can hear me. He's deaf. Jim he's deaf.

(08:13):
You can't hear me, can you? Yeah, I can hear
I can't hear you though, So yeah, yeah, right now,
this is all I got. No wrong one I would
do that. I'm gonna I'm gonna go ahead and kick

(08:33):
the bonus you out too, So hopefully when you rejoined,
it'll just be the one and the only you instead
of your mirror universe twins. See, this is why I
blame cerin just saying all right, let me fix this too.
Because the video is still playing in the background. I
just realized I haven't changed off by that yet. Okay,

(08:56):
so hopefully I must. We'll be back in a minute.
How's everybody else doing tonight? How is everybody out in
kalar and radio land? Did I mention that, you know,
live radio, sometimes glitches happened and then we're just kind
of sitting here going, oh, this didn't go as planned.
But yeah, so we're here, we're live, and it's live radio,
and I have an amish again. Let's see if we
can hear one another. Hello, I think you're having a

(09:25):
loop because all I hear is a little squeaky zone. Okay,
so hey, this is me riffing for three minutes. All right,

(09:47):
So if you missed last week, Basically what we do
every year is we do a deep dive into the
Mandela effect because it happens to be one of our
most popular topics. And I think that's because there's almost
everybody that kind of feels it to a point, because
there's things that you remember. And one of the ones
I'm gonna talk to Almish about here in a minute
actually happened to me last night, but I don't want
to give it away until I have a chance to

(10:08):
talk to him. But one of the ones we have
talked about before that actually is exclusive to me as
far as I know, is there is a sculpture right
as you enter my children's school. My youngest graduated there,
my granddaughter is currently going well actually, yeah, well one
of my granddaughters is going there. In a future, a

(10:29):
couple grandsons and a granddaughter will likely go there too.
There's a sculpture. The mascot is the Warriors. There's a
sculpture that, according to my kids, has always been there
because I asked them because we were driving a couple
a couple months ago, as I was driving past the
school after we picked up Gracie because I have to
pick her up from a different spot. And then we

(10:50):
go home and we go around to the other side
of the school and just go up to the back
room to get back to our house, and there's this
sculpture of Indian arrows like in the ground, and I'm like,
when did they put that in? And my daughter looks
at me, as his dad, that's always been there. So
there's no way. I used to drive in there all
the time to go watch your brother play football. If
that was there, I would have known. And she's like, Dad,

(11:10):
that's always been there. So yeah, I have Mandela like
little Mandela effects all the time, and honestly it used
to freak me out. Now I'm just like, yeah, I
honestly think there might be something to it. But yeah,
so at this point, we're just wait, who's in the house.
There are Oh, okay, I see that. Okay, welcome Sarah.
We're waiting on Amish to make an appearance. He's having

(11:31):
a technical issue. So I'm just kind of riffing for
a minute about the Mandela effect. But yeah, that one
honestly messed with me really really hard. And another one
that kind of messed with me and I have a
really good memory, but it's not what it once was.
So some of this that I'm talking about could actually
just be misremembering, but I don't really think so. Another
one is I guess in season five of Quantum Leap

(11:55):
they changed the intro and it sucked, and I was
rewatching it a couple of years ago because I was like, yeah,
I was going through this. You know, new TV sucks,
so I'm gonna watch all the old stuff again. And
I did that for a long time. Honestly, I still
kind of do, especially if I'm trying to go to
sleep or something. I've been told it's a trauma defense
because I turned on something that I'm familiar with, so

(12:16):
my brain's not trying to engage. I don't know. That's
well that's what my therapist told me. But yeah, So anyway,
I realized that on season five of Quantum Leap they
changed the intro music and it sucked. It was like
Deep Space nine, and they tried they sped it up. Well,
deep Space nine. When they sped it up, they made

(12:36):
it cool. This one this one, yeah, no, this time
it sucked, and I'm like, I never remember it being
that way, and I remember watching the last season because
I was still in high school and the last season
was okay, so hopefully we have an amish now if
my board will corroborate with me, how about now I

(13:00):
can hear you now?

Speaker 9 (13:01):
Yeah, ok yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
So earlier when I logged in, you know when FPF
was on, Yep, that browser just disappeared. I couldn't have
it anywhere, so I logged back in again in that
doubling up kind of anyway.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Well, you know what it happened was there was a
timeline shift, and in this timeline you hadn't logged in yet.

Speaker 9 (13:23):
Yeah that's okay. That tracks man, what's going on?

Speaker 1 (13:28):
Hey? Yeah, not much. I was just kind of riffing
about the Mandela effects flying solo for about five minutes
while we were figuring out figuring out your tech issues.
I was telling everybody about the quantum leap one and
then the one that I was telling you a couple
of weeks ago about the sculpture that's outside of my
kids' school that I swear to God wasn't there, and
all my other kids are like that that's always been here.
I'm like, yeah, no, no, no, no, I would remember that

(13:49):
because that's a cool ass sculpture. It has not always
been there, but so I had one last night too though,
So after Agnie and I was little for a in
the Disney movies that didn't suck, I've made an amazing discovery.
So granted, Disney Plus's user interface sucks, so you have
to manually search for them, but they actually have almost

(14:10):
all of the old movies that we were talking about
I've been able to find so far. So this morning,
as I was getting ready to tackle my day after
because last night I couldn't sleep, so I turned on.
The first one I turned on was the computer Wartet Issues,
which because one of the ones we talked about. Then
I found the million Dollar Duck. Well, I found the

(14:30):
cat from outer Space, and well, so I have a question.
The cat do you do you remember it being a
tabby or a black cat? M it was a tabby
because I could have swore when I first started, because
it freaked me out at first. Because I turned it
on this morning, I'm like, I could have swore was
a black cat? What the hell.

Speaker 9 (14:53):
Was a tabby?

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Unless I'm confusing it? Unless I'm confusing it from with
the cat from Men in Black.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Well see that's what I thought about a.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Nod to that, you know with the cat with the
belt around you know, the.

Speaker 1 (15:06):
Yeah, yeah, well then that's kind of what I thought.
At first. It was like maybe I'm I'm confusing with
something else, but my brain was like, no, I swear
to god, the cat in this movie was a black
cat when I saw it when I was a kid,
So it was it was literally freaking in. I was
thinking about it the whole time I was watching the movie.
I was like, this was a yeah. So it's so
I had I had a minor Mandela effect this morning.

Speaker 9 (15:26):
It kind of freaking out.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Yeah, and even even Laura and even Laura in the
private chat is like, it was a tabby, Like I'm
telling you it was a black jet in my universe. Dammit.

Speaker 9 (15:38):
Well there you go.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
So this week, like you talked about, you know in
the intro, there's been not a lot of spin offs,
but I don't call them spinoffs, but new theories around
what has caused a Mandela effect. Now, when we first
did the show, I was leaning heavy and discern.

Speaker 9 (16:02):
I still kind of am. I mean, you know, fuck
those guys.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
And it's I've come to find it. See one of
The evidence that it was Cerned to me was the
We Are Happy video, and in that it's three minutes
of the.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
US find that again and I did.

Speaker 9 (16:24):
Sorry, Yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
You know, it's not worth the three and a half
minutes of listening to We Are Happy for the three
for references to.

Speaker 9 (16:33):
It in it.

Speaker 2 (16:34):
And you kind of have to wonder in it if
it's CERN trolling either because they released this video after
the Mandela effect. It was the phrase was coined in
two thousand and nine and this video was released around
twenty fourteen, So you they're either trolling us, you know
with the hey, you think that we had something to

(16:56):
do with this, Well, we're going to lean into it.
They're trolling us because they hit it and they're just
throwing it in our face. And when you watch this video,
it's basically just a bunch of it's the US delegation
to the arche Hadron Collider, and they're just kind of
being dorks, some of them being smoke shows while being dorks,

(17:17):
but they're just being dorks, dancing around kind of showing
off the main features around CERN.

Speaker 9 (17:23):
But some things you.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Notice in it is one there's this old grizzled dude
in his office and he's just got papers all over
the place and around his neck. He's got two signs.
One of them says number one bond and the other
one says Mandela. Now, if you don't know, get that
the very first bond. And we talked about this and
when we talked about this on the Vincent Charles Project,

(17:46):
We've talked about you and I have talked about this
on previous Mandela Effect shows. The very first bond wasn't
Sean Connery. It was Barry Nelson, who did They did
a There was a US TV production where they're kind
of like they take famous books and just do like
a forty five minute TV show on it, and it

(18:07):
was Casino Royale and in it the bond was Cia
And anyway, Arry Nelson, Barry Nelson, Nelson, Mandela. So that's
kind of like one throwing it in our face. Two,
they're doing this dance in this corner and they're all
lined up kind of doing the Shiva dance with the
arms waving. If you don't know, Cern has a giant

(18:27):
statue of Shiva at the front of the property. It
was it was a gift from India. And this is
significant because Shiva is the creator.

Speaker 9 (18:36):
And destroyer of worlds.

Speaker 2 (18:38):
So anyway, they're doing that dance. And the third one,
the weird one. This is the one that's like, you know,
they're trolling one way or another. There's this kind of
like video game board and what the video games for.
I really haven't been able to ascertain watch in the video,
but it has the player one score is Nelson Mandela

(19:00):
is prisoner number forty six sixty four and his number
was actually four six sixty sixty four, but I'm figuring
they can only get four in it, otherwise they really
would have leaned into it. So you're wondering, what does this,
what does cern have to do with the the Mandela effect?

(19:20):
And well, certain was in operation long before the Mandela
effect became a thing. It really got into on the
people's radar in twenty twelve when they fired up the
large Hatear Collider, and it's noticed that the bulk of
the Mandela effects and people's awareness of it, aside from.

Speaker 9 (19:43):
You know, didn't you know, like we talked about last episode, did.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Nelson Mandela die in the nineties or did he die
in twenty thirteen? And a lot of people remember him
dying in the nineties, but a lot of the other
artifacts and Mandela effects either bear the same bears. They
really started to you know, you could kind of say,
with the collective autism of the Internet, you know, everybody

(20:06):
just starting to find these things. You know, hey, you
know Reddit's never you know, not dug deep into a
good conspiracy theory. So but that's when a lot of
the noticing started happening with it. And later the second
round of them was in twenty twenty two when they

(20:27):
restarted the Large Hadron Collider. That's when we get the
new crop of Mandela effects that you and I were
talking about in the show too, Things that weren't people
hadn't noticed before, but it's like all of a sudden,
Uncle money Bags from Monopoly doesn't have a monocle, Pikachu's
tail with the black stripe on it, things like that.

(20:48):
So that that's when the second wave of Mendel.

Speaker 9 (20:50):
Effects started to appear.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
And yeah, go ahead, I was I was just gonna say,
and I've noticed like some things that are freaking me
out that are more recent and I don't know if
it's some sort of an offshoot of this or if
there's something else, but I mean, even just a few
months ago we were talking about one or two companies
that were trying to put robots on the market. Now
it seems like almost everybody has one. There's stories breaking

(21:16):
every day. I saw a company and I don't remember
what country they're out of, but they're actually giving there.
They're allowing people to option off their likeness and their
voice to a humanoid robot that will, I mean, as
long as it's dressed, will look pretty human for like
two hundred dollars. So it's just all of a sudden,
all these things are just happening, happening all at once,

(21:38):
and it's just so weird to me. I don't know
if it maybe has something to do with all the
crap that'cern's been doing, or if I mean, it's just
like little things that are happening like all at once,
like overnight, all of a sudden, AI can do full
on animations. Everybody's been freaking out about that. It's like
it went from not being able to do it to
now it can, and everybody's like, when then they figure

(21:59):
that out? Apparently yesterday. I'm just like, I don't every
Maybe it's just because I'm finally getting to the point
where I have to start officially calling myself old because
it just seems like everything's just happening all at once.
And there's so many different little random theories that kind
of offshoot from the concern that try to explain exactly
why things are accelerating, and hopefully we have some time

(22:21):
to get into those tonight, but.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
It really does seem to go with the acceleration of
you know, not just the Mendel effects, but you know,
the spurts seem to come, you know, whenever they fire
that fucking thing up, and it's like, well, still, what
does that have to do with it? The theories go that
either and this kind of goes some of the other

(22:44):
theories we're doing tonight too, that the universe was annihilated
and we're just in kind of like the solo we
either moved into a parallel universe or yeah, because it
was postulated by Stephen Hawkins, if we ever found that
the Higgs boson, it would annihilate the planet with its
discovery or it would annihilate the universe with its discovery,

(23:07):
because it's just this very little tenuous hold of the
laws of physics breaking down, and he postulated that observing it,
you know, kind of like when you observe other subatomic particles,
you're quantifying it, and quantifying the Higgs boson would lead
to the annihilation.

Speaker 9 (23:27):
Of the universe.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
So we jumped into a parallel universe where things aren't
always the same, you know, kind of like in the
Sliders thing, where everything was just a little bit off.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
Yeah. Well, further he got away from his home Earth,
weird things got and I kind of feel like we're
in the direction.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yes, so right, So it's kind of that, and that's
where certain comes into plays. It's that, you know, some
of the artifacts came with us, but you know, and
it's like there's those who were from the universe we
moved into and from the universe that we moved from.
And that's why different people will experience entirely different Mandela effects.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
You know.

Speaker 9 (24:10):
It's like, you know, it's like where you and I.

Speaker 2 (24:14):
It's like it on eighty percent of them, you and
I are in the same are from the same universe,
but there are no I remember it the other way.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Yeah, I mean, just like the one we were just
talking about. You are like, no, is it Tabby, And
I'm like no, the fucking cat was black. But yeah, no,
I mean, it's just it's just this weird thing and
it's something that just captures the imagination, I think, because
there are just so many things that don't make sense.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
And it's you know, to just call it false memory.
False memory works when you're talking about a limited subgroup,
but not when you're talking about millions of people. Thousands
and hundreds of thousands of people are on these reddits
and they're in these you know, these video the videos

(25:06):
for Mandela Effect have tens of thousands of views, so
it's not you know, it's you know, and that's like, well,
you know people are checking it out.

Speaker 9 (25:13):
Doesn't mean that they have, but it kind of does.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
So that you know, one thing, we haven't talked about
it since we first did this topic. You know, when
you're talking about false memory, it.

Speaker 9 (25:25):
Is a real thing.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
I mean, they've interviewed people who were at ground zero
on nine to eleven. You know, they interviewed them like
one year after, five years after, and then ten years after.

Speaker 9 (25:36):
And then you know it's and then they'll.

Speaker 2 (25:38):
Play them back their previous interviews and in talking with them,
they'll say like, I don't.

Speaker 9 (25:43):
Know why I said that. That never happened.

Speaker 2 (25:46):
So you know, it's like they they had false memories
at the time that have either walked back or they
have repressed memories to the point where they don't believe
that it happened. And I get that that's a traumatic experience,
much like the annihilation of the universe.

Speaker 9 (26:00):
So but it's.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
It just seems to be too prolific to be just
a psychological malfunction.

Speaker 1 (26:10):
So Steven just brought up a good one. And this
is similar to one of the ones that we talked
about last week, the position of you know, South America.
There are people who have freaked out with the most
recent map of our galaxy that shows where we are
in release and to everything else because they're like where
I'm from, we were somewhere else.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah, that's what we didn't talk to you is we
talked about.

Speaker 9 (26:31):
And that is another popular too.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
We talked about that on We talked about South America
and New Zealand being in different places than people remember,
but also our position in the Milky Way.

Speaker 9 (26:42):
If you look at some of the.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
Older photos, we were way way the fuck out on
the western spiral arm of the galaxy and now we're
kind of like halfway in and you can say, well,
you know, science has better fixed our position. Couldn't have
been that far off.

Speaker 1 (26:57):
Yeah, I mean, either they were just spitballing before or
something's definitely wrong, because you can't really say, oh.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
And for everything in our whole neighborhood to be in
the wrong spot too, I mean yeah, I.

Speaker 1 (27:09):
Mean that's like spending your whole life thinking you're in
Oakland and finding out you're in Oklahoma City.

Speaker 9 (27:14):
Right exactly.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
It wouldn't work now.

Speaker 2 (27:19):
So and that's the one that we didn't talk about either,
as the kidneys too, because if you look at some
pictures of the kidneys now their way up in the
center of the back, right under the lungs.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
That's freaky too.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
So and it's really not something I want to talk
to my PCP about, saying, hey, where are the kidneys at?

Speaker 1 (27:36):
Why? Why are you asking you Mandela? Do we need
to put you on a cycles?

Speaker 4 (27:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (27:43):
Yeah, don't don't talk to your PCP about this kind
of stuff. But I mean, so something that's kind of
weirded me out, and this is this is I'm I'm
kind of putting this into the Mandela category again because
and this is something that I just saw so you know,
the Crisper technology, the DNA stuff they've been talking about
for forever, right, sure.

Speaker 9 (28:05):
So.

Speaker 1 (28:08):
Either something has accelerated and it's becoming mainstream kind of
like UFOs, or something is definitely different than it was
a few days ago. Because what freaked me out at first,
and I talked about this with Aggie a little bit
last night before we got started. There is a spinoff
called Watson on CBS that's part of one of their
more recent Sherlock Holmes.

Speaker 9 (28:26):
Shows, and that the other day.

Speaker 1 (28:29):
So, yeah, the character of Watson's continuing off on his
own now. Well, so on one of the most recent episodes,
they used Crisper to delete sickle cell from somebody like actually,
and then within like a day, I'm reading an article
that's tying back to somebody from like the nineties when
they started talking about cloning sheep, and what they were

(28:52):
really trying to tell us is we can actually already
clone people, and apparently they can now using Crisper. It's
not even the anymore.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
That goes with that post by that Chinese scientist a
couple of weeks ago who was talking about the only
thing that's holding back human advancement is ethics, and he's
like big on the Crisper train. I'm like, you, of
all people should not be talking about that, you know.

Speaker 1 (29:18):
But yeah, should we talk about wuh while we're talking
about it.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
You know, we've seen what happens when you guys lack ethics.
Chris Wheels have paid for that too.

Speaker 9 (29:27):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (29:29):
Yeah, so it and this kind of goes to one
of the topics Art Bell would always talk about, and
it was kind of like a sub theme and a
lot of his shows, you know, when he wasn't talking
about UFOs or Bigfoot and stuff, was the quickening.

Speaker 9 (29:44):
And was that I think we're in it?

Speaker 2 (29:48):
Yeah, and that's it's kind of and again that goes
with another one of the theories we'll be talking about tonight.
But yeah, it's that everything just you know, like with
more's while with you know, computer chips, where you know, everything,
you know, the processor count with double every year while
the price remained the same.

Speaker 9 (30:11):
That's kind of.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Seems how it's like everything that was like, okay, so
Crisper's like fifteen years off. Well again, part of being
old was like that was fifteen years ago, you know,
because I remember Glenn back talking about it, like twenty ten,
you know, and so we're now with the fifteen year mark,
and yeah, we're doing that now.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
So yeah, I mean, it's just it's all of it,
just and I want to give a quick shout out
to Mark hanging out in the chat. I think the
colliders are meant to move the elite off this planet
before the twelve thousand year Earth catastrophes, I glans. I mean,
I don't know. That's as plausible a theory as any
I guess, right, I just I do. It's also weird

(30:51):
because like it, like I said, it seems like all
of it's like accelerating, and I don't know if it's
a conglomeration of the stuff that CERN's been doing and
now how much AI is playing roles already in things
speeding up, because I mean, like yes, like two days ago,
I think it was either Thursday or Friday, I saw
a post about Elon Musk has now decided that instead

(31:14):
of sending people to Mars, what he's going to do
first to send a bunch of ships to Mars with
his robots so they can disassemble the ships and build
the colony. And I'm like, I've never heard, never heard
him talk about that before. Where the hell on i'd
even come from.

Speaker 2 (31:28):
That's the foundation of like a half dozen video games
I can think of. First, is that you're the robot
that sent the disassembled the ship and make it habitable,
you know, get the terraforms going, get the oxygen enators
going and everything.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
So yeah, I mean, I'm not saying it doesn't make sense,
but I'm just saying that's not any Like just six
months ago, he was talking about sending people to Mars
within like the next two to six years, and now
he's sending robots first. Like, when did we change our
mind on that? Extending robots first is a great idea

(32:01):
because then you've got things already ready for the people.
I'm not saying it's a bad idea. I'm just saying,
when did the memo change?

Speaker 2 (32:08):
And it's like when you go to the nice hotel,
you get there and the has already turned down, the
mint's on the pillow.

Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah, pretty much. So, But what about you, man? I mean,
I know I've had some weird Mandela stuff going on recently.
Have you seen anything that's kind of got that's just
kind of been like a woe moment for you? Since
the last time we did a show like this, because
I will admit I've had like three or four and
I've already talked about them, so.

Speaker 9 (32:39):
You know, I really haven't. I think nothing that I've noticed.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
I mean, the last time I really had anything significant,
And this was we talked about this on the panel
show we did with Mickey and Jeff and Katz and
about the my local area seemed to be going through
in video games. In online video games is called a

(33:04):
level pass where they go and they fix all the
graphics in it and they make it newer and make it.
The area I live in, everything seemed to be like
really dusty and dirty, and then like that, not last year,
but the year before, everything was suddenly.

Speaker 9 (33:20):
Bright and vibrant.

Speaker 2 (33:21):
And I've lived here most of my life and all
of a sudden, going when did that rock have strata
in it? You know, that was just a mountain, but
now it's got like limestone with grantit limes, you know, layer,
you know, layers where you could tell it was you know,
suboceanic at one point. And yeah, it just that's really
the last one, and that one I'm still like hyper
focused on that and all the point of interest signs

(33:43):
in the.

Speaker 9 (33:43):
Area changed overnight.

Speaker 2 (33:45):
Now, in my job, I'm a truck driver, so like
I would I would notice like a road crew changing
a sign because I'm on these roads every day, or
it's like I would have noticed, hey, you know suddenly
that that signs different. The signs were getting like super faded.
All of them simultaneously were fading at the same rate,
and then it's like they all got fixed the same day,

(34:07):
which it's just not fat I mean that's you know,
like hey, you know you got this. You know, here's
your turn off for this point of interest. But like
the elevation signs too. I mean, I don't know where
you live, but I you know, when you're in the mountains,
you get elevation signs everywhere. It's like every single one
of them was replaced overnight. Well somebody fading decay mode
and then snapped back in with high res.

Speaker 1 (34:28):
Well see, that was like a weird thing for me,
right because and I don't know if it if it
just managed to be done during some of the time
when I was working from home, and then I never
noticed because I wasn't going that way before. And then
there were the times I had to go back into
the office. But it was like overnight, all the speed
limit signs changed around my house. They were just everything
was different, Like where it used to be sixty five

(34:48):
and seventy it was now sixty and sixty five. The
school zone next to my kids, the school next to
the school, and the town next over that I used
to drive by to be able to get the road
that had the school next to it that I used
to drive down to get to the highway. The entire
speed limit through there used to be twenty and then
I come in one day and it's thirty instead, and
I was like, I did what I was like, well,

(35:12):
I mean the school zone itself is still twenty five,
but instead of them, and well it was it was
twenty for everything, and it still is on the side streets.
But on the main street they uped it to thirty
unless the school and thus the flashing lights were on
and then now it's twenty five, but it never used
to be that way. And everywhere else, like that's the
only place where the speed limit actually went up. Everywhere
else and went down by any any usually an average

(35:32):
of about five to ten mile an hour, And it
was like it happened overnight. It's like one day I'm
driving and everything was normal, and the next time I
drove down those roads, I was like, when did the
speed limit change? Because when did this happen? But yeah,
it's just one of those things. Little things like that
just completely mess with my head, and that that's what
is always kind of gotten me, you know, thinking about

(35:54):
this whole Mandela effect thing once it hit the scene.
But it's just weird when it started because there were
there were there's none of this until that point, because
there was none of this well you know, I mean
we like one of the ones we talked about last night.
Every single one of us remembers the line from Star Wars.
Except that's not the line from Star Wars anymore.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Every one of us remembers the line from Snow White.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
Yeah on the.

Speaker 9 (36:18):
Wall, it's not it's a magic mirror, which doesn't make sense. Yeah,
but no.

Speaker 1 (36:24):
So I was just curious if you'd had any that
I actually have a fan fic theory on Snow White.
That's kind of trippy. I made Aggie's head expode today, Okay. Yeah.
The theory is the theory as to why the Dwarves
never got to go with them when the prince rescued
her because the prince was actually dead too, and she
never actually woke up.

Speaker 9 (36:47):
That's like, okay, I.

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Mean yeah, but it kind of makes sense when you
look at the animation because on the end scene, you know,
when they're walking towards the castle, it's not like bright
and glowe and clouds covering it and everything. And that
was enough to kind of make me go, hmm, that
would I would kind of track with how dark Disney
used to be in their animated stuff. So I mean,
and it still makes this one, It still makes the
original better than the one. But anyway, all right, where

(37:15):
you want to go next? Actually you want to say
a Breakouties were like, well.

Speaker 2 (37:19):
Pasted, let's take a break, and I want to come
back with the nineteen eighty eight anomally because that's my
new hotness. See.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
I got to think about that too, because I started
trying to research it and no matter how I looked
it up, I wasn't finding anything. And that's why you
corrected me. The only way I could find it was
by typing eighty nine, So that really fucking tripped me
out too, where no, for practice supposed to be eighty eight.

Speaker 6 (37:42):
But yeah, anyway, all right.

Speaker 1 (37:43):
So we'll get into that on the other side of
the break. What did I do? That's oh, I actually
actually a little bit of Christmas it was that that
was not what it was supposed to be.

Speaker 9 (38:02):
Yeah, Kens, Now that Biden's a office, I.

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Mean that well, I mean the problem is I think
you knew. I think you noticed the degauzing so to speak,
before Biden was at office though, so.

Speaker 9 (38:12):
I'm not Yeah, that's yeah.

Speaker 6 (38:14):
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Maybe they were just cleaning everything up. But we try
to avoid the politics.

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Speaker 1 (42:48):
And to welcome back in the juxtaposition ladies and gentlemen again.

(43:21):
This is are typically every two weeks for you into
the weird, the unusual, the unexplainable. And tonight we're doing
part two of the Mandela Effect and I just realized
something amish. There are like tons of intros that I've
cut over the years that my squeaky previous studio chair
has been immortalized. I heard in that one too. I

(43:41):
was like, damn to this one too.

Speaker 2 (43:44):
Yep, But anyway, yeah, that's part of our that's part
of our charm. Yeah, we cling to our rooms even
when we get you know, new intros and new bumpers
and everything like that too, we still have We'll go
to the throwbacks with the chair spinning and uh, you
know it's the uh, the memes of the day when
you know, we had our KLR and chat room and

(44:07):
there would be dozens of us.

Speaker 1 (44:09):
So yeah, way dude, way back in the day, I
was thinking. I was thinking about that again in the
day though. I really wish Ron was around to see
how far we've come since.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yeah, yeah, I was just thinking about it the other
day too. I was, in fact, when I was up
in a Nevada yesterday, Safety Dance came on the radio
and I was like, fuck, Ron, dude.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
I will be honest. You know, you know how you
guys feel about that one Jefferson starship song that I
used to try to use as a bump row that time, Like,
don't you That's how I felt about Safety Dance. But
everybody was given around such a hard time about it.
I went in start of playing it anyway, yet you
gotta do the troll one. But anyway, So yeah, I

(44:53):
was just thinking about that because yeah, I heard from
uh Gordon today. He's like, ope, it's not mad at
me because I just stopped producing. I was like, dude,
I probably shouldn't be doing as much as I'm doing
of this that I'm doing because it doesn't make me
as much money as the other stuff. But I enjoy
this more and I'm gonna keep swinging to like till
it makes me money. I get it, so don't worry
about it. But yeah, so but yeah, I was just

(45:15):
I was just thinking about that today because somebody, somebody
brought him up not too long ago, and I was like, dude,
if he could see us, you know, pulling in thousands
of people now on shows, he would probably just freak out.
We always wanted.

Speaker 9 (45:29):
I think I think he's guiding our hand in this one.
So yeah. Nineteen eighty eight Anomaly.

Speaker 1 (45:38):
Going Back in Time. Oh wait, sorry, Jeff's favorite movie.

Speaker 2 (45:45):
You turned me onto this and I have rabbit hole
the fuck out of this one.

Speaker 9 (45:50):
This has just been.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
This one's actually pretty fascinating. So you want to start
off with this once yours or you want me to dive.

Speaker 1 (45:58):
In, well know, I mean you go ahead, and then
I'll pick up whenever you're ready to let it go.
Because there's all kinds of off shoes with this one too, So.

Speaker 9 (46:08):
Yeah, that one has two shoes.

Speaker 2 (46:10):
So the theory goes at some time in nineteen eighty eight,
And I'm actually expanding it because when you look at it,
eighty eight is kind of a hard stop. But if
you stretch it out to like from between eighty eight
and ninety nine, and I'll turn this onto the nineteen
ninety nine anomally, which is the same thing, they just
stretched it out a little bit further. But the theory

(46:33):
goes that at some point in nineteen eighty eight there
was a cosmic, technological or metaphysical event that completely altered reality, timelines,
and human perception. And this, you know, this is where
it kind of leans into the Mandela effect.

Speaker 9 (46:53):
But it started.

Speaker 2 (46:55):
The way I'm looking at this is it's really started
in eighty eight.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
You had.

Speaker 2 (47:02):
The Cold War was in its death rows, the Soviet
Union was going to fall the next year, Reagan was
coming out. You had a huge drought in the United
effected forty five percent of the United States, cost nearly
one or one hundred and twenty billion in damages. You
had Hurricane Gilbert, which was the largest hurricane at the time.

(47:23):
You had a massive earthquake in Armenia.

Speaker 9 (47:26):
You had a lot of shit going on at the time.

Speaker 2 (47:31):
I mean, we look at it like, you know, that's
just Thursday now, But at the time, this was like
an unheard of amount of global catastrophes going on.

Speaker 1 (47:46):
And then this is well, this is actually one of
the reasons why I wanted you to lead off with this,
because what if I told you I don't remember the
nearly nationwide drought happening.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
See I do, And which is funny because you were
living in the middle of it.

Speaker 10 (48:02):
No.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
Actually, well actually at the time, I was on the
West Coast, but I had family that was living here
and I don't ever and I was coming home for
Christmases of summers. I don't remember there being a nearly
catastrophic drought over half the country like at all.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
Grown up in the Sierras. I also remember that was
like one of our heaviest snowfalls at the time too.
I remember we had our snowmobiles parked on the second
story porch and I rode down from there to get
to the street to go to school. So yeah, so
it was just something happened at that time. And then
when you kind of stretch it out with the theory

(48:41):
through the nineties going up into y two K, like
I said, something cataclysmic must have happened, because if you
look at everything since then, human civilization has more or
less stagnant. While we've had technological answers since two thousand,

(49:02):
really I mean they're still based on the same old,
boring bullshit. I mean if you look at Okay, so
now we got Windows eleven and it's really flatter. You know,
you got the new Apple iOS whatever that is. But
I can tell you, as you know somebody who worked
with Windows as a computer tech, you still have to
go into the old NT four point zero control panel.

Speaker 9 (49:23):
If you really want to affect any changes to the system.

Speaker 2 (49:26):
You can go through all the settings and everything, all
the flashy UI. Now you know the new UX in Windows,
but it's still NT four point zero, and that was
mid nineties into the nineties. It wasn't even NT two
thousand year. So you look at fashion You can look
at any decade prior to two thousand, and they had

(49:48):
an iconic fashion. You got poodle skirts and greasers. In
the fifties, you got you know, you got hippies in
the sixties. In the seventies you've got disco.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
And oh wait three.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
You look at the eighties, it's you know, punk rock,
neon and izod, you know, and sweaters tied around the neck.
In the nineties you got and Heir to the Sky,
Here to the sky. Every decade up to two thousand
had its iconic look, and then you look at everything
after two thousand.

Speaker 9 (50:19):
We're twenty five years into two thousand.

Speaker 2 (50:23):
And there is no memorable distinct decades style with anything.
I mean, you go anywhere and you just have a
mash of the last five decades of the twentieth century.
You know, it's you can see anybody would be carrying
that look or those hairstyles. It's like, oh, yeah, that's

(50:45):
the racial earh. Yeah, that's kind of like you know,
Betty Page and blah blah blah. You know, but there's
nothing iconic about this millennium so far.

Speaker 1 (50:54):
Well, and part of that, well, part of that is
the theory is the reason why we go through this
everything old is New again stuff that's really been happening
a lot since two thousand is because since everything ended
sometime between eighty eight and ninety nine, it's like consciously
we're just catching up to the idea that everything ended,

(51:14):
so we're being pulled back into the stuff that we remember,
which ties into a much much lesser known theory that
I think explained some of this. And the theory is
that our entire universe has been sucked into a black hole,
and the further we get into the universe, the more
we are are the further we get into the black hole,

(51:35):
the more we're destroyed. So so imcvent too, you know.

Speaker 2 (51:43):
And it's if you look at I mean, look at entertainment.
You know, it's every decade had its movies, you know,
it's you know, whether it's it's popular genre of the time,
but everything had its fresh, new, blockbusting movies.

Speaker 9 (52:00):
We don't have that anymore.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
It's all remakes.

Speaker 2 (52:04):
It's all remakes, you know. And you know, one of
the theories of that is that the Muse has left us,
whether through the annihilation or you you the Greek, the
Greek mus is that they just they've given up on us.

Speaker 9 (52:20):
And even it's like little things.

Speaker 2 (52:23):
There's no viral ad campaigns anymore. I mean what we
call viral ad campaigns now is nothing compared to like
the Taco Bell Chihuahua.

Speaker 9 (52:33):
I think that was in ninety nine.

Speaker 2 (52:36):
The Gordida was the last good idea the Taco Bell had,
and that was in ninety nine. And don't even talk
to me about making dorrito fucking taco shells because that's bullshit.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
So it tast good, though, but that's that wasn't an
original idea either. I mean I was putting thos in
my tacos fucking forever.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
Yeah, yeah, I used to put I used to make
casey dias at home when I get home from school
and put a whole bunch ofnacho ches dorito's in it too,
so fuck called them casein nachos. So But yeah, on
the whole, aside from technology, we've basically stagnated. And if
you really look at it, even technology, it's just while

(53:12):
it may be faster and it may be able to
do more, it's still the same thing.

Speaker 9 (53:18):
The only difference between a.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
Moto Razor and your brand new iPhone is that the
app size is bigger than a program could run on
Windows ninety eight at the time. But other than that,
it's still basically the same app. You're doing the same
you know, a lot of the functions you have on
your phone is the shit you were doing on a
BlackBerry in two thousand and two, you know. So it's

(53:40):
really hasn't. While the speed and you know, the ability
has increased, technologically, there's nothing new. I mean, if you
look at computer hardware too, it's really I went six
years without upgrading my computer, which is unheard of for me,
and I just did an upgrade and it's really not
that different, you know. I just didn't want to get

(54:01):
caught flat footed with you know, the next gen, so
I kind of you know, future proofd myself a little bit.
And still it's nothing's changed on my compute. It's exactly
the same as it was two weeks ago when I
started the process. So you know, nothing was really groundbreaking
about all the upgrades.

Speaker 1 (54:21):
Well, and that that's part of it though, because I
mean I remember like when computers first, I mean, you know,
once they weren't room sized anymore. It was like there
was an evolution of computer technology about every six months,
like within six months, there was some sort of a
breakthrough where processing speed got faster, storage got bigger, whatever

(54:41):
the case may be, and it just it increased everything
exponentially until we hit again about ninety nine, two thousand
and since then most everything's remained the same. I mean, yeah,
we've got more storage space. I mean I remember, I mean,
this was still when I was doing it work. I remember,
you know, walking around and thinking I might have to
go see physician when I found out about the first

(55:01):
terabyte hard drive, because I was like, I want one.
But you know, I mean, so there are little things
that are different. But you're right, where's where's the rest
of the innovation? And why is it that the only
places that we're seeing innovation are typically not even in
the places where we where we should necessarily be seeing them.

(55:23):
I mean, how weird it out wear you? And I'm
going to skirt a topic here for a second, but
how weird it o wear you? When you saw the
dose crew talking about the fact that they are like
seventy eight different types of it within our government, well,
I mean.

Speaker 9 (55:37):
I bought, I absolutely believe it.

Speaker 2 (55:39):
I mean I remember, you know, back getting back to
y two K when they were looking for people who
can program, and Cobyl they're still looking for people who
can program in Cobyl. So I mean it's but yeah,
it's just.

Speaker 1 (55:53):
There's no innovation anymore. I mean the I mean, honestly,
about the only person that real innovating is Elon Musk
and now they're trying to kill him. Right what about?

Speaker 9 (56:02):
I mean look at medtech too.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
I mean there hasn't really been any huge breakthroughs in
medical technology. I mean there's been improvements, and some people
would say regressions, but I mean we're back to using
leeches in some cases. But you know, the old ways
are best. But it's it's remember in the eighties you
had the univers the you know, the the groundbreaking artificial heart.

Speaker 9 (56:26):
We just abandoned that. What happened.

Speaker 2 (56:31):
Well, stability issues, but really I mean it worked. Yeah,
it was a short time, but Barney Clark, he did
fine with it for a while.

Speaker 1 (56:42):
Well. I think a lot of that is, you know,
remember the in the fifties when the dude created the
carburetor where you get like eighty miles to the gallon,
and they often and shelved it. I think I think
some of that may be going on. If I'm being honest,
but I mean, but I mean, just human greed isn't
enough to explain how much society has just stalled, right, not, because,

(57:06):
if anything, human greed is usually what feeds society to
go forward, right.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
You know, I find new ways to make money, not
just recycle the old ones. And then you know, some
laziness and apathy too. But you know, one of the
other things, the facet with the theory that I just find,
you know, really compelling, is that because of this, whatever
it was that happened, is why there is such heavy
nostalgia for the eighties and nineties. Nobody says, God wasn't

(57:35):
a fucking great in two thousand and five.

Speaker 1 (57:38):
No, no, no, no no.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
But you know, you don't hear anybody say, God, I
really love to go back and live two thousand and
one again. Well, okay, that's a bad example of nine eleven.
I'd really love to go back and live two thousand
and eight again.

Speaker 9 (57:51):
You know, yeah, you won't hear that.

Speaker 2 (57:54):
And it's it goes with music, and it goes with
every facet of human Human existence is completely stagnated since
two thousand. I mean, there's really I mean even that
I was thinking about this. You know the other day too,
when I was driving.

Speaker 9 (58:09):
Up to Nevada.

Speaker 2 (58:11):
There's no like new slang that's caught on. You know,
they tried with cap no cap that didn't stick. Everybody.
All the general I mean general slang is still from
the eighties and nineties. You know, it's not I've never
I haven't seen anything really stick. Well, there's like dude,

(58:32):
you know, we we we really brought dude forward in
the eighties. Everybody uses the word dude.

Speaker 9 (58:40):
There's none of that anywhere.

Speaker 1 (58:43):
Well, yeah I did. I don't know. I still I.

Speaker 2 (58:49):
Don't have you got kids, but you know, around my friends,
my peers who have kids, I don't hear any slang
that's like okay, what's that?

Speaker 9 (58:55):
You know.

Speaker 2 (58:56):
It's like, you know, there's nothing like cool or rad
or awesome or anything like that is just you know,
I don't hear it.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
One of the ones that always freaked me out, and
this is from moving from Oklahoma to the West Coast,
was them using mass as in as something that was
you know, like a lot of something like you there
was massive, massive this, and massive that, And I was like,
what what so I mean, yeah, but it's like that
it was like that there was even regionals things for

(59:26):
your time. Then that's not even really a thing anymore.
I will say, I think the cap no cap thing
is caught on a little better than you think it
has because almost all the damn as and eels and
everybody else.

Speaker 9 (59:39):
Maybe maybe it hasn't.

Speaker 1 (59:41):
The just no better than to say it around me,
But yeah, I mean, that's probably about the only thing
that I've seen that's really caught caught hold, and I
have to I have to admit that would annoys me
and chat let us know if there's something we're just
missing with it.

Speaker 9 (59:53):
But you know, I just I don't see it now.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
I mean, I like, I mean, other than that, I
really don't either. But I mean, I've also noticed language
seems to be regressing. We're going, but it's like every
freaking time I turn around, it's all it's all texting now,
and it's usually a handful of emojis.

Speaker 9 (01:00:11):
That you have to decipher.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Right, I'm like, I'm not Egyptian, I don't speak articles.
We have a language for a reason.

Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
Yeah, we have a written and spoken language that works
pretty well. So when people start speaking emojis, that's when
you know we've gone too far.

Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
Yeah, then it turns into that episode of Star Trek
where they're the Yng's and the Combs.

Speaker 9 (01:00:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:32):
Well, you know it's like when somebody actually says l
l and you look at them like they just grew
a second head.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
Dude, am I So I'm not the only one that
gets weirded out by that because somebody did that, you know,
was like, what the we're not typing? What the fuck?

Speaker 9 (01:00:45):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:00:47):
Yeah, I mean it's one that you like to say
lamal because that kind of rolls, but to l to
say l or, I mean, I guess you say lol.
So that's fine, all right, I send corrected.

Speaker 9 (01:01:01):
I corrected myself.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Well, I mean I.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
Don't even usually say that, to be honest, so but
I do. I have myself sang lulls from time to time. So,
but you know people who actually say loll what there's
lots of love?

Speaker 9 (01:01:17):
No, No, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:01:19):
Not actually what that means. Well, believe it or not. Man,
Hour one is already in the book.

Speaker 9 (01:01:23):
I gotta wrap this one up real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:01:25):
One of the things that the side theory of the
uh this of the nineteen eight anomaly that you kind
of to give an explanation to it is that whatever
this cataclysm, the reason why the nostalge is so heavy
and why everything keeps reverting back to the eighties and nineties,
even in the remakes, you know, with like Ghostbusters and
Judged Right everything Red Dawn, is that whatever this cataclysm was,

(01:01:51):
and this ties in with the matrix theory, the eighties
and nineties were the last stable backup, so that that's
where we've looped back to. And that's why because things
are slightly different this time, because every backup has got
his errors in it.

Speaker 9 (01:02:09):
That's where the Mendela effect is coming from.

Speaker 1 (01:02:11):
I was gonna say the whole matrix thing actually ties
into the Mandela. We may actually get into that a
little bit on the other of the break, because.

Speaker 2 (01:02:17):
Yeah, we can do that one from my heart, all right.

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Speaker 21 (01:07:06):
Let's do the mandela again.

Speaker 15 (01:07:12):
Let's do the.

Speaker 21 (01:07:17):
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memory take a twist.

Speaker 22 (01:07:26):
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Speaker 15 (01:07:32):
All this time.

Speaker 21 (01:07:34):
Let's do the Mandela again.

Speaker 15 (01:07:40):
Let's do the.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
And we are back and we are, in fact doing
the Mandela again. That's right. It's our yearly fouring into
the weird, the unusually unexplainable, and specifically the Mandila effect.
And we usually do weird, unusual and unexplainable stuff about
every two weeks, but this one we usually do about
once a year, and they're there has been so much
to it that this year we made a two parter,
even though we normally do two hour shows now, so

(01:08:05):
now we have four hours worth of Mandela this year.
I'm kind of proud of that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
I'm sorry that we had to redo, kind of redo
the primer because now that we're on AX, new audience
wanted to bring everybody up to speed.

Speaker 9 (01:08:17):
It was not familiar with the Mandela effect.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
And some of the absolute freak show creepiness about it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:23):
You completely weirded me out because you didn't say.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
Primmer, yeah, I'm trying to things up anymore.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
I was like I was like, wait a minute, he
usually says that the other way. The funny thing is,
I was about to yell at you for saying it
the British way, and then I realized you didn't say
it the British way. I'm like, wait a minute, they
actually said it not British way anyway. Yeah, wait, you're
you're finally remembering that you're an American again. Is that
what's happening? Yeah, it's not cool to be British anymore,

(01:08:56):
damn it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:56):
All right, So anyway, there's anything that has made me
more ingoistic than I could be, which I didn't know
that was possible.

Speaker 9 (01:09:04):
It's fucking Twitter, I.

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Know, right, dude, don't even get me started.

Speaker 9 (01:09:10):
All day long, you talked shit about my country, you know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:13):
Well, I mean they well that's like the whole big
kid brother Kid's sister thing. I I'm the only one
that can be shitty to them. You're not allowed to
do that, just how that works. But yeah, out but
yeah no, don't don't even get me started on X
because I think I think it's ironic that ever since
Elon Musk supposedly steered the algorithm towards focusing on unregretted

(01:09:37):
user seconds all I have when I'm on that platform
or on regretted user seconds, except when we do things
like this. Oh my name is Musk, all right. Anyway,
So before we went to break, we kind of teased
the idea that one of the more prominent theories behind
the Mandela effect, or what is becoming a more prominent theory,

(01:09:59):
is the fact that because of this catastrophic event, that
we are all whatever it may be, that we are
all living in a matrix. And before you pooh pooh it,
I want to ask everybody a question. When is the
last time that you went out and bought a new car?
And suddenly, as you're driving around, you notice more and
more that you're seeing the very same car that you

(01:10:21):
just bought everywhere.

Speaker 2 (01:10:25):
And you know, that's funny because a couple of years
ago I bought my mom and new car. Now I
see that thing everywhere. I actually sometimes think that that's
her driving. Anyway, Mickey and I talked to have talked
about this quite a bit, you know, in DM and stuff,
and Mickey and he calls it the GTA effect. And
what I love about that is in Grand Theft Auto,
when you steal a car. It's like, in order to

(01:10:49):
save on rendering and save on processing power rather than
just making a whole bunch of unique cars all over
the place, you'll see that car all over the place.
And that's It's like in real life too. You go out,
you buy yourself a brand new for Runner. All of
a sudden, you're gonna see that for Runner in the
color you bought it everywhere, And you know that's just

(01:11:09):
kind of like people say, well, you're just more aware
of it now because you have it and you're seeing
it all the time, so you're seeing it everywhere maybe,
But then.

Speaker 9 (01:11:16):
There's also the power it.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
When Mickey and I were talking about it once, we
kind of said, you know, when's the last time you
saw a VW bus, you know, like a classic sixties
you know love bus, And remember the.

Speaker 1 (01:11:33):
Last time I did? Honestly, except for like on TV,
I've seen a couple of like on TV, but I
haven't seen one in the wild and forever.

Speaker 2 (01:11:40):
But not only did I see like one of them,
one of them was mint and then there was another
one that was a little beat up that, uh, you know,
tooling around town. And I'm like, okay, so that's just
the power of suggestion. But I never realized one of
my neighbors behind me has had one, and I drove
past it every day, and I'm just like, okay, so

(01:12:03):
when did they get this?

Speaker 9 (01:12:04):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:12:05):
I even asked myself, well, when did you pick up that?
You's all know, I've always had since it's just been in,
you know, the back of my driveway, like I can
see the back of your driveway from my backyard. I've
never noticed the f It's just like appeared. And again,
Mandela effect, all of a sudden, my neighbor has a
car that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:22):
Well, I mean, and and that's well, the only reason
I'm saying this now and I said I haven't seen
one in a while, is because now that we're talking
about it, the next time I'm out tooling around, I'm
probably gonna see three or four.

Speaker 2 (01:12:30):
But yeah, yeah, we're gonna get you. We're gonna get
messages and fucking I'm seeing buses everywhere now.

Speaker 1 (01:12:37):
But but this is part of it, though, because this,
this is this is no different than your phone and
your computer. And if you have a smart TV listening
to you, and suddenly every time you go online or something,
you're seeing ads for the things. It's the same principle, yeah,
but it's also it's also again it's it's an easy
way to save one processing power if if you're and

(01:13:00):
you know, other weird things that I've noticed that make
me honestly believe that we may be living in some
form of a simulation like I have. Like I have
an issue with my cars. Win showed vipers like they'll
work sometimes sometimes they won't. I've had it looked at there,
like we don't know if it's the motor. We don't
exactly know what's going on. It's under warranty. So at
some point when I don't have like a six month wait,

(01:13:22):
I'm going to put it in the shop because I've
just figured out how to deal with it. But the
funny thing is it almost never rains anymore except for
at night or.

Speaker 9 (01:13:33):
You haven't needed it now that you've discovered it.

Speaker 1 (01:13:36):
Yeah, Now, I mean when it when it when it
was first happening, and there were a couple of times
that I was like, I was like freaking out because
I've been driving down the road and it was downpouring
and all of a sudden, my my wipers would stop.
But once I just decided you know what. Fuckud I've
checked with them. They're not They're not gonna be able
to look at it for another six months, and I'm
just gonna make do with it until they can look
at it now now, like right now. It was supposed

(01:13:56):
to it. Last time I looked at the weather, it
was supposed to have started raining today three pm. Here
they've pushed all the weather out until ten o'clock. It's
it's it's happening. It only rains now, and if I
don't have to when I'm not having it to go somewhere,
or if it rains at all, it barely sprinkles, so
it's enough to wear. The rainex that I have on
my windshield does the job. And it freaks me out

(01:14:19):
because I'm like I did this. It's just one of
those things where it's just like or like I'll be
or there's a bill that I'll have to pay and
like the money shows up for me to pay it,
like and I wasn't expecting it.

Speaker 9 (01:14:33):
Yeah, even even on Seinfeld.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
But yeah, it's just so many different little things, like
there'll be times cause you know, you know me, and
we talked about it before. I'm somebody that has to
have some sort of background noise when I sleep, and
because it has started weirding me out, sometimes I've just
gotten back to the point where I'll turn on like
music on my phone or something and pipe it through
my speakers because if I leave my TV on sometimes
when I wake up, they'll be like a commercial or

(01:14:58):
something playing. If I'm on one of the the streaming
services where I'm not paying, where I where I'm not
paying for the ad free because on some of them.
My kids have so many streaming services and I have
so many that on some of them when I had
gone to the cheap ones, suffered through some mats. But
it's weird because it honestly happens a lot on the commercials.
Like I'll wake up in the middle of the night,

(01:15:20):
you know, old man Bladder or something, and look up
and it's a commercial that I've seen a million times,
and I know it's not CGI, but it looks like
fucking CGI. And then I look out look around the room.
I'm like, why does everything kind of look like fucking
Atari right now? And then my eyes adjust and it
goes away, and I was like, Okay, for a minute,

(01:15:42):
I'm sorry what I said.

Speaker 9 (01:15:44):
You go eight bit for a minute.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
Uh, sometimes I go further back than a bit. I
don't know what Atari twenty six hundred used to use.
But yeah, there's there's a couple of times things have
looked really really weird, and that that's honestly messed with me.
Like things being a little bit CGI didn't mess with me.
It's but sometimes there'll be times when I wake up
and I'm like legit like looking and everything's like square
instead around, and I'm just like what, what what? And

(01:16:08):
then eventually my brain catches up and it stops, and
I'm just.

Speaker 9 (01:16:12):
Like, I don't know what's going on. I really don't
know what's going on.

Speaker 2 (01:16:17):
But to explain the theory a little bit more, it's
that we're all living in a simulation and that is
what the artifacts and the Mandela effect is is that
it doesn't make everything exactly right every time with a rendering,
and you know, like with playthroughs too, that's kind of

(01:16:39):
explaining stash of voods, you know, when they need to
you know, roll roll back for a little bit for
the you.

Speaker 9 (01:16:46):
Know, to fix something. And uh.

Speaker 2 (01:16:51):
But part of that too is another topic we've talked about,
and this is going with the with the stagnation even
when we're all the simulation. And that's when you and
I talked about the dead Internet theory, where in the
nineties the Internet was a weird, wild place. It just

(01:17:11):
I mean, everybody had their own website.

Speaker 1 (01:17:13):
There.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
You can find anything anywhere. I mean, it wasn't easy
to find, but you can find anything you know to
you know, particular your fancy. They were like whole you know,
web pages devoted to the very topics we're talking about tonight.
You know, there were forums and BBS's and everything. Now
the Internet, even though it seems bigger and everybody you
know has a website still, but it's more contracted. We

(01:17:38):
all go to the same dozen websites. We're all on Amazon,
we're all on x We're all on Facebook, we're all
on Instagram. You know, there's you know, in we may
go to an actual you know, web store for somebody else,
but our focus is very small where like you know,
in angel Fire. I think at one point there were

(01:18:01):
ten thousand web pages on angel Fire. Now there's like,
I mean, I can't think of I mean, sure, if
I really looked, I should have way more than that,
but it sure as hell doesn't seem like it. And
when you go on these sites even before AI became,
what we we're understanding is AI now. And I actually

(01:18:21):
encountered this on X where I had two bots fighting.

Speaker 1 (01:18:25):
In my mind, you told me about that, and I would.

Speaker 2 (01:18:28):
From either side of the topic, and I could tell
because one they were they were replying to each other
and talking past each other, and then the conversation moved
to have nothing about with what the conversation was going
on about, and they ignored all other interactions from anybody
else to just focused on each other. And but this

(01:18:49):
is like common, you know, and when you notice it,
it's wild, and you just sit back and watch.

Speaker 9 (01:18:54):
It's pretty fun to watch.

Speaker 2 (01:18:56):
But it and that's a lot of what is out there.
Unless you go to like some really obscure BBS's or
you know whatever, you're just you know some forums, you know,
some game forums where they're pretty good at keeping the
bots out. Your chances of human interaction on social media
is about fifty percent unless you are absolutely certain the

(01:19:19):
person you are dealing with is a human.

Speaker 1 (01:19:22):
I mean, honestly, this one, I'm starting to wonder if
it might not actually even be less than that. But
that's but I mean, yeah, it's just it's weird to
think about because when you start looking at all these
things and realizing that if you kind of take them
and roll them together, all of it kind of makes

(01:19:42):
sense when you look at it as kind of a
whole picture. Because one of the one of the other
things that has kind of occurred to me with some
of the Mandela effects stuff is if we are all
in a simulation, there's a good chance that one of
the reasons why the collective consciousness has become so much
more of a thing than whatever you to be, and
we're all having like these these same shared memories and

(01:20:04):
everything else, is because we are in fact plugged into
a computer, and that computer is using our brains one
to elp power itself and two to help keep us
entertained so that we don't realize that we're in a simulation,
because we've all seen what happens in the movies when
you figure out you're in a simulation, and then you
know they've talked about how you know, the only simulations
that work are the ones that were as close to

(01:20:25):
real life as possible, and you had to struggle and
blah blah blah blah. So taking all the have a matrix.

Speaker 2 (01:20:31):
You had to have this, You had to have a
certain level of comfort but still a certain level of
adversity in your life for you to not question your reality.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
Yeah, so taking about it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:41):
In a matrix too is that And this goes with
you know we were talking about the nineteen eighty eight theory,
is that that period of time between eighty eight and
ninety nine was the peak of human advancement. So that's
why it's stuck in that time.

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Well, I mean, you're taking all those things as being equal.
Some of the things that we view as men to
lot of effects could be new people being plugged in
to the matrix that have slightly different memories. Or maybe
the whole reason it's barren Stain versus Berenstein is because
somebody that got plugged into the matrix has dyslexia. Yeah.

(01:21:17):
I mean, once you and that's the thing about these
kind of theories is once you just start just accepting
that there's even the possibility that this may be true,
then it opens up so many other different possibilities. And
one of the ones that we skirted at a little
bit ago is the theory that our entire universe is

(01:21:38):
inside of a black hole. And I think that maybe
the very catastrophic event that everybody is talking about when
they talk about the nineteen eighty eight anomaly thing, and
that could again explain why there has been this quickening
that our bells started talking about. Because imagine what things
would be like as you're getting closer and closer and

(01:22:01):
closer to what would be the center of a black hole.
I can only imagine that if you're conscious of it,
even on some even on any level, that the world
around you would probably start speeding up quite a bit.
So I just I wonder if maybe that may not
have something to do with it too. But again, you know,

(01:22:24):
is that is that why we're in a simulation, so
we aren't aware that we're all about to just be
gone or taking things in another direction? Did the world
actually end either in eighty eight, ninety nine or twenty
twelve and we've been plugged in ever since and we
just don't know, right?

Speaker 2 (01:22:40):
I mean that maybe why we plugged in so that
way we wouldn't see our eventual spaghetification.

Speaker 1 (01:22:47):
I mean, it would make sense. I mean, that is
a fun word. I have to admit I've been using
that one a little bit more Latelygetti spaghettification. Oh my
daughter hates when I is that word because she can't
say spaghetti sketty. That's how she says. She's like, stop it,
I can't say that word. But no, it's just and again,

(01:23:12):
some of this is just to make you think. I'm
not trying to give anybody nightmares tonight, but if you do,
I'm not really sorry if you have them, because you.

Speaker 9 (01:23:21):
Know, walking if you do, welcome our world we lived.

Speaker 1 (01:23:26):
Seriously. I mean, there have been times that I've been
uphold I thinking about this stuff, because it's just one
of those things where once you start down that rabbit hole,
it's really hard to get out of it, Like, you know,
another little quick hit one, because there's not really much
to go into with it, assuming that we aren't living
in some sort of a matrix or you know, the
world did not reset in eighty eight, ninety nine or

(01:23:48):
twenty twelve. One of the more common theories that I'm
starting to see about the Mandela effect is it's actually
a prolonged CIA experiment to see how people respond to
being guess.

Speaker 2 (01:23:58):
Lit, yeah, I mean, uh, if you were if you
were to raise raisers, is out that is the the
lowest barrier of entry. And in various shows that we've
talked about, you know where you know, it's like you know,
the Navy dropping uh, you know, biological agents over San

(01:24:22):
Francisco just to see if they had work and you know,
and yeah, that actually happened. It was product Operation Ocean Spray.
When you think of it, it's like, Okay, so the
CIA and talked about a lot of their m k ultrafuckery.
The CIA just wanted to say, you know, we're just
gonna sigh up everybody. We're gonna gaslight them and just

(01:24:43):
change Berenstein. I mean, it's like peaking into everybody's house
to do it. But I mean, how many you know
it's and that's where the artifacts come from.

Speaker 1 (01:24:56):
Well, I mean think about it though a lot. I mean,
unless you're a collector, people just kind of lose things
over time. I mean, that's like the whole argument over
the cornucopia that according to the the own the company
that made the damn shit said they never had one.
But somebody from a couple of about six or seven
months ago said, I actually have a T shirt in

(01:25:20):
my closet that has the cornucopia in the logo and
it started everybody talking about it all over again. And
it's just one of those things where no one last.

Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Week we remember an ad campaign during a Super Bowl
where they all came running out of the cornucopia like
a team out the gate.

Speaker 1 (01:25:34):
Of the Yeah. Yeah, it's just one of those things
with when with everything you know and again skirting the
politics getting close, but you know, not gonna just kin
to toe the line with everything that we're starting to
understand with USAID and USIP and the CIA and their
involvement in the drug trades and everything else. Is it
really that much of a stretch, especially when you think

(01:25:56):
about things like you know, Operation Ocean Spray and all
all the other things that they've done. Is really that
much of a stretch that they're running a long term
experiment to see how the human psyche responds to being
gas lid for forever. I mean, I could see that happening,
I really could, and I could see it being funded.
That's one of the reasons why I'm kind of happy

(01:26:17):
a lot of their little honeypots and sayspools are going
away because hopefully some of the funding for this shit
goes away too, Because if it is us being gas lit.
It's gonna stop soon, hopefully, but.

Speaker 2 (01:26:27):
It's just why didn't end l effects suddenly stop on
the next exposition? But you know with that too, it's
I mean part of and I know we've talked about
the Rand Corporation's paper on how to you know, a
way to overthrow religion would be to not really I
mean overthrow religion, but is a way to, uh, you

(01:26:50):
remove all the cultural touchstones and then you make a
common anime. It's kind of like the basis behind Starship
Troopers too, but you remove all the cultural touchstones. And
that's what cults do in FPF when they were talking
about the Jonestown, you know, that's it's alienate them, alienate
people from.

Speaker 9 (01:27:08):
A good cult.

Speaker 2 (01:27:09):
They'll they'll alienate everybody from their touchdowns, their family, their
possessions there you know, you take and then when you
do that, then they're easier to manipulate because you are
all they have now. And you know, because if that
falls under the world, why would the government do that? Well,
I mean the government loves.

Speaker 9 (01:27:25):
Running siops on people.

Speaker 2 (01:27:27):
We've talked about dozens of them through the course of
the years on the show.

Speaker 9 (01:27:31):
And uh, this would be.

Speaker 2 (01:27:33):
It would be an epic one, really hard to pull off.
But then you know, like you said, people don't unless
you're a collector, people don't hold onto things.

Speaker 9 (01:27:40):
You're not going to have the baron Saint Bear's books
from the eighties and nineties.

Speaker 2 (01:27:44):
They're going to be you know, you got your new
ones for your kids, so that's when you notice the discrepancy,
but you don't have your old ones to go back
and look at, you know, that kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
Yeah, and I mean, you know I do. I mean,
I mean, let's let's face it, even if we are
in a simulation, there are people that believe they're still
part of the CIA, so maybe they think they're gaslighting
as when in reality they don't even realize that they're
in a simulation.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
See, and being in a simulation would be really easy
to go and you know, remove all the artifacts of
the previous one, and you're like, well, then how would
there's still be artifacts that you know, because the computer
controlling it is going to know where everything's at. It's
the same thing when you're playing a game and there's
that rock floating in the air that has made it
through three or four level passes.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
I mean, it happens. It happens all the time. Yeah.
I mean, that's like, you know, you're playing this really
neat cool game and all of a sudden you're you know,
you're like trying to navigate this new place and you
walk through a table. Right, wait what that? But I
mean and and you know that that's one of the
things that was in one of your least favorite seasons

(01:28:51):
of Eureka was really yeah, they're really smart. Redheaded Chake
figured out they were in a simulation because she's somebody
walk through the tables.

Speaker 2 (01:29:02):
Right, And then you know, Zane saw that crow stuck
in a rock.

Speaker 1 (01:29:06):
So but yeah, I mean, and those things do happen.
And again, the more of a the more processing power
you have to have to maintain a simulation, the more
likely you are to see those things happen. I mean. Now,
just as kind of an aside, I just saw today
that Groc I guess, probably with the help of his handlers,

(01:29:27):
put out a post about how overtaxed his processors are
because everybody's trying to make him come up with new
things to do. I'm like, that's a weird thing for
the ad to say, But okay.

Speaker 9 (01:29:38):
I'm gonna admit I've been using GROC a lot lately.

Speaker 2 (01:29:42):
When it's coming to tasks that, like, you know it
where I have a basic familiar knowledge of, but still
it's like, you know, it's I had Grock design to
work work betch for my taile cell for me, and
it said it couldn't render it, so I put it
in a chat GPT and it did. It didn't render
a great one and you know, it didn't make a
lot of sense, but it's still rendered a cart for

(01:30:03):
me to visualize what it was talking about N three D,
so that was impressive. But it's like when I'm doing
a produce. It's like when I recently did my format
and setting up voice meters so that way I.

Speaker 9 (01:30:13):
Could get it to finally do what I wanted wanted
to do.

Speaker 2 (01:30:15):
I ran GROC and chat GPT against each other to
see which gave more concise, better directions that didn't require
me to correct them a lot, and.

Speaker 9 (01:30:25):
It was basically a tie.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
I mean, Grock gives more detail at front and chat
GPT will give you the detail when you ask for it.

Speaker 9 (01:30:31):
But that's we're getting off topic. I mean no, not.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
Really, because I mean one of the and this is
kind of an offshoot of it. But one of the
things that kind of freaked me out and actually kind
of proves that we may in fact be living in
a simulation is there was and there was. This was
after we did the simulation panel on jugs. There was
an article that I found and some video clips that

(01:30:56):
I found about AI that was put into a sandbox,
was programmed to believe that it was a butterfly, and
it started as a caterpillar and had to go through
all those processes, and then it learned to move as
a caterpillar, and then it morphed into a butterfly, and
it learned to behave as a butterfly, and it the
only life it knows is that of first the caterpillar

(01:31:17):
and the butterfly, because that's all it's ever been told.
And that that was one of the key points of
the simulation is in order for it to work, you
can't just be thrown into it. You have to be
basically born into it, just like you are in real life,
and you have to learn as you go or at
some point your brain's going to figure out that you're
in a simulation. And I think for some of us

(01:31:39):
because and I think like you noticing, you know, the
level passes, and me noticing that sometimes things just look
video gamey. I think it's I think some people's brains
are starting to try to catch on, and the artifacts
and everything else are just ways that we're starting to
try to wake ourselves up as to exactly what's going

(01:31:59):
on now with that's because there's something that we can
do about it, or because the system that we're living
in is failing. That's another story, because I don't know the.

Speaker 9 (01:32:08):
Answer to that.

Speaker 2 (01:32:10):
Yeah, it's funny when you were talking about AI in
its environment. Do you remember Microsoft a Porte put it
on Twitter in two weeks it was regurgitating Nazi propaganda
and was racist as fuck.

Speaker 1 (01:32:28):
Well, I mean, you know it is Twitter. I mean,
it doesn't matter whether it's a human, a computer, or
an artificial intelligence. Garbage and garbage out is a thing
for reasons.

Speaker 9 (01:32:41):
That's true.

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Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
All right, folks, welcome back into the final segments of
this week's Juxtaposition episode. And this is again part two
of our foray into the Mandela Effect, which we do
every year, and how much I have to figure out
another topic in two weeks. But we're back, We're live

(01:37:24):
and in the train to stay on schedule so that
Jeff's not snarky about you know, the last ten minutes
of Rick and already had more juxtaposition than juxtaposition.

Speaker 2 (01:37:33):
He was actually right, it was funny talking about this
being part two. I got a message on Twitter from
a Philip Balco saying, next to we're telling us there
was no part one.

Speaker 9 (01:37:42):
It never existed.

Speaker 1 (01:37:44):
On next Juxtaposition, Yeah, what happened to part one?

Speaker 10 (01:37:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:37:48):
There was actual there was a several years ago there
was a Mandela Effect episode you and I did that
was so glitched out. When we up loaded it, we
reret condit, pretended it never happened.

Speaker 9 (01:38:03):
It just to show again.

Speaker 1 (01:38:06):
I forgot about that. But yeah, you're right. The funny
thing is one of the people was in the Chad like,
did you guys do this Like Nope, nope, don't Struta.

Speaker 9 (01:38:16):
Nope, never done this one. You got day Chevy with
my friend.

Speaker 1 (01:38:20):
Welcome to the Bendela effect. Yeah, you're remembering something that
only happened for you. Oh but I mean think about
that for a second though, you know, going going back
to the whole CI thing, even if it's not the CIA.
With all the different alphabet soup agencies there are, and
god knows how many other people are doing shady shit
behind the scenes, how convenient is it to be able? Yeah, No,

(01:38:42):
that didn't happen. You're you're not You're you're remembering something
that didn't happen. How convenient would that be to just
make that a thing?

Speaker 2 (01:38:51):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:38:51):
I mean, that's Illuminati shit.

Speaker 2 (01:38:54):
And if anybody has access to everybody's house on the
planet to change the copy of Star Wars, just say no,
I am your father instead of Luca, I am your father.

Speaker 9 (01:39:03):
That's it's them.

Speaker 1 (01:39:05):
Dude, that that one still really messes with me because
I watched that in the fucking theaters. Yeah it's not
and and and I had like the sad The thing
about it is when when we first played that it
was different. I was like desperately looking for my old
VHS copies, you know, pre you know, all the little

(01:39:26):
fancy ship and I'm like, I know for a fact
the original VHS copies I had. He said, Luke, I'm
your father, and I couldn't find them. I was like,
damn it, And now so did did did? Did? Did
he mess with us? When when they revamped everything? Did
they change the line? Is that what happened?

Speaker 9 (01:39:44):
Yeah, that's me.

Speaker 2 (01:39:45):
You know when they did the big VHS I think
it was the twentieth aniversary re release.

Speaker 1 (01:39:50):
And when they did when they did the THHX crap
with it and like made like the Death Star with the.

Speaker 9 (01:39:58):
HM that I still get hard from that.

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
No, but I mean, I just that.

Speaker 1 (01:40:03):
I'll be honest. I used to used to. I used
to dig that, like when I was in a theater.

Speaker 2 (01:40:08):
Just just rattle your sphincter. It was fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:40:11):
It would go from the normal sound into the THHX stuff,
and like you could feel it rattling in your chest.

Speaker 9 (01:40:16):
And I was like, oh.

Speaker 1 (01:40:18):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:40:19):
But the thing with that one too, it's every time
we talk about it, it's the same thing as how
does everyone in the world get it wrong? Merchandise coffee cups,
T T shirts?

Speaker 9 (01:40:30):
Oh, I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:40:31):
Everybody, everybody on the planet miss quotes. I have never
heard anybody say no.

Speaker 9 (01:40:36):
I am your father.

Speaker 1 (01:40:38):
It's retarded.

Speaker 9 (01:40:40):
Yeah, I mean even saying it.

Speaker 1 (01:40:42):
That way is it just sounds it sounds stupid. I
mean when you hear when you hear the dude that
does the voice in the Live Red say it that way,
but that's not the line that's that's like the whole
life is like a box of chocolates thing. Because even
Laura was like, well, it grammatically makes sense the way
he's saying it now since his mom's dead. But I'm like, no,

(01:41:04):
not really, because she said it while she was alive.

Speaker 2 (01:41:09):
Right yeah, And I mean still, it's like even in
that librtary, you know he rehearsed it. James old Jones,
wasn't the guy that just going cold and you know, yeah,
I mean yeah, he's doing vo work, but still and
for him to you know, be out on the press
junket for Empire and yeah, no, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:41:31):
I'm telling you that there's there's some there's some weird
things afoot with this one. Yeah, there's just there's just
really is I still I mean and again when you
when you take all of the theories or all the
little the little sub sects of the theories, like something
happened that ended our civilization somewhere between eighty eight ninety

(01:41:52):
nine or even early two thousand and since then we've
been plugged into a simulation. And then you take the
you know, the whole thing that's coming out now that
apparently there there's there's a quantum there's a quantum physics
theory that our entire universe is inside of a black hole.
Where did that come from? Right?

Speaker 2 (01:42:15):
Yeah, now they're finding out that the cosmogical constant isn't
a constant too. It's it's like, you know, the rules
of order are breaking down.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
I mean this for a reason? Was that that that's
the that's the part that just bends my brain because
physics is physics for a reason. There are immutable parts
of physics that are not supposed to be able to
be changed and now you're telling me some of the
fundamental basics of physics don't exist anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:42:44):
Yeah, that could send a locality versus we won't anyway.
That that that's for a Jeff show, that's for lost Wanderer.

Speaker 1 (01:42:51):
That's not.

Speaker 9 (01:42:53):
That that that's not juxaposition.

Speaker 2 (01:42:56):
The thing, I like everything we talked about tonight, they're
not mutually exclusive.

Speaker 9 (01:43:01):
Yeah, because a lot of these.

Speaker 2 (01:43:02):
Topics when we touch on them, when we talk of them,
it's the theories are one or the other, you know,
or you know that we'll provide you know, four or
five different theories that explain it, and they're.

Speaker 9 (01:43:18):
All mutually exclusive.

Speaker 2 (01:43:20):
These could all be the same, I mean, they're just
different facets of the same theory.

Speaker 9 (01:43:24):
It's one of those is like you can just because
other than the.

Speaker 2 (01:43:30):
Artifacts and the memories themselves, there's no.

Speaker 9 (01:43:35):
There's nothing concrete about it.

Speaker 2 (01:43:36):
It's all anecdotal evidence, so you can kind of just
move through and pick and choose what you anecdotal. Really,
isn't that fair because it's affecting millions of people?

Speaker 1 (01:43:48):
Yeah, I mean, well, anecdotal is just just a way
of explaining, you know, there's no real empirical evidence. We're
just going off or being told. So I mean the
word used it makes sense, but yeah, you're right, it's
not a very aptist. But to try to put this
in terms that I think people I hope people will understand,
it's just like the difference between playing a video game
where they call it being on the rails, where there's like,

(01:44:09):
you know, there's not really much you can do to
going to a sandbox video game, the idea of the
Mandela effect, because there is no real parameter to it
other than people remember things differently, and there's a whole
list and a whole host of things that they remember.
You literally can take that and go down pretty much
any rabbit hole that you want and start trying to
find ways to help you yourself make sense of it.

(01:44:32):
And that's why for me, I think, you know, I'm
one of those people that I don't believe in coincidences.
So the more of these things that I find that
explain it, the more I realize that they could really
just all kind of be rolled together. I mean, if
there are in fact people within the CIA that are
trying to gaslight us, that could be happening within a

(01:44:53):
simulation because they may not know they're in a simulation.

Speaker 2 (01:44:57):
Well, and it's like with that one when you take
auction comes razor, that's the one that you know, it
requires the least number of assumptions.

Speaker 1 (01:45:06):
No, and that's why, out of all of the theories
I think it would it is technically the most plausible,
But it's also the most improbable because again, you know,
now granted, the further away from an incident you get,
the easier it is to not have to worry about
you know, not everybody's going to have their VHS copies
of Star Wars before the THHX remaster or whatever, if

(01:45:29):
that is what they did, whatever the case may be.
But while it's the most easily explainable, it's also the
most problematic because again, unless you unless the people that
are doing the gas lighting know that we're in a
simulation and they're accessing the programming to fuck with everybody.

Speaker 9 (01:45:48):
But yeah, but.

Speaker 1 (01:45:50):
Think about that from from a logical perspective, though, If
the whole point of this is for us to not
realize that we are slowly hurdling to her Dooman about
to be spaghettified, why would people that have access to
the master abortions of the program be trying to make
us realize that we're in a simulation.

Speaker 2 (01:46:15):
You're taking a sci fi angle on that. I mean,
if we were to spin this into like a sci
fi movie, they would be the keepers that they are
duty bound to keep everybody oblivious. You know, it's they know,
but you know, and they've made peace with that fact.
But for the good of humanities, you know, for the
good of the collective soul and the memory of humanity.

(01:46:37):
They they're they're the keepers, you know. Like I said,
I'm just kind of you know, if I were writing
a script for it, that would be the reason.

Speaker 1 (01:46:48):
But I mean, so again, you know, assuming that we
are in a simulation, because it's like you said, there's
been no real innovation as far as movies since the
two thousands. But think about all the things that came
out right towards the end of the era that we

(01:47:10):
know where they were still making fresh content, like the
Matrix itself. I mean, was that somebody's collective consciousness way
of trying to tell us what the hell is going on?
Like all these other little things that they leak into movies.
One of the things that has been driving me nuts
because there I had a bout of Insomnia about a
week ago, and I and it was on a Sunday,

(01:47:33):
so and I couldn't sleep after I watched the second
Top Gun movie, and I was gonna try to go
to bed because normally, if I watched a movie a
few times, if I can't sleep, I turn it on
and eventually I'll get comfortable and go to sleep. Well,
it didn't work, so and I was on Paramount Plus.
So the next movie that rolled in was Mission Impossible,
the very first one, and I swear there's the line

(01:47:56):
where Voight is talking to Cruise and he's like, like,
you know because it turned the spoiler. I mean, this
is a twenty year old fucking movie. So if you
don't know this by now, it's not my fault. But
he's at the end he's talking to Cruise and he's like,
and one day you wake up and the President of
the United States is running the country without your fucking permission.

(01:48:19):
And I swear to like the hair on the back
of my neck stood up because I was just like,
that's exactly what we're dealing with right now. But at
the same time, but but but why would that line
be in there? Was that somebody trying to warn us
because they already knew, like and when we've talked about
that with other things too, like the after school specials,

(01:48:41):
I still firmly believe that some of the people that
were involved in putting that stuff out were trying to
let everybody know what the fuck was actually going on
in Hollywood, and then somebody that was one of their
spin doctors said, oh, no, no, no, we'll just label isn't
after school special?

Speaker 10 (01:48:55):
Yes, So I'm.

Speaker 1 (01:48:57):
Just it's just all these little things that get leaked out.
But now I'm like so, and trust me six degrees
of Kevin Bacon getting right back into what you were
just talking about. If there are in fact watchers or keepers,
I am a firm believer that whoever the watchers and
the keepers are likely are probably some form of artificial intelligence.
So that being the case, if they are, could it

(01:49:24):
be that I'm trying to articulate it. Well, I'm getting
stuck in my own loop here, But could it be
that the reason why we're starting to see artificial intelligence
coming onto the scene as quickly as we are is
maybe we're getting back to the point where there's about
to be another reset.

Speaker 2 (01:49:45):
I mean, yeah, that's that tracks because it just seems like,
you know, in the last yeah, do you to borrow
from Weird Science when you know they're you know, trying
to make Kelly on, you know, Kelly brock On the computer.

Speaker 9 (01:50:02):
It's your computer's a piece of shit.

Speaker 2 (01:50:04):
It's a boring dipshit And that's when they went and
hacked into you know, the Air Force. But uh, yeah,
I mean, it just seems like in the last couple
of years AI has gone from being a boring dipshit
chat bot to.

Speaker 9 (01:50:17):
Actually being not just useful, but pretty fucking amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:50:23):
Well, I mean, and that's the thing, like, and you know,
not not to put too fine of a point on
it here, but if we are in fact living in
a simulation, is it possible that we keep getting up
to that pinnacle point where we or something destroyed ourselves
and it resets, starts, over comes all the way back
up through again, and then does it all over again.

(01:50:44):
And could that be part of what's causing the artifacts,
because maybe it's each time things are reset something is
slightly different, but we have a memory of how it
was before tells you I was gonna blow your mind
at the end of this day.

Speaker 2 (01:51:00):
Yeah, And then so then we just kind of reset
to the I mean, we may reset to two thousand,
but that explains to having nostalgi again. The thing that
really gets me about the nineteen eighty eight anomaly is
the what really just kind of doesn't when it just,
you know, the light came on, was the heavy nostalgia.

Speaker 9 (01:51:17):
For that time period.

Speaker 2 (01:51:20):
You don't have a lot of people really nostalgic for
the season. We got people nostalgic for the sixties, but
not really the seventies. The seventies were kind of hangover
from the sixties.

Speaker 1 (01:51:28):
And then it's just it almost everything. You're right, it's
like the Mandela effect. Almost everybody understands on some level
what the Mandela effect is, and at the same time,
almost everybody's like, God, I wish I could go back
to nineteen eighty four or nineteen eighty five or nineteen
eighty six, whatever part of the eighties that they just
felt the most comfortable. And I've even caught myself doing it,

(01:51:51):
and I wasn't even that old during most of the eighties.
I was born in seventy three, so for me, by
the time I was really starting to come into you know,
lateeen a year's early adulthood was nineties and even I'm
still like, dude, I missed like nineteen eighty five, nineteen
eighty six, And I thought about that last night because
half the Disney movies that I wound up really really

(01:52:12):
liking were some of the ones that we started talking about,
as far as the live actions that came out and
the in eighty six, in eighty five and eighty six,
because those were those were the summers that I was
hanging out with my dad, and that was also when
Top Gun came out, and that's when the Transformers movie
came out. And I remember me and my dad when
and my brother we accidentally walked into the.

Speaker 2 (01:52:31):
Top March one, not Michael bay One, what I said
to clarify, the cartoon one, not the Michael bay one.

Speaker 1 (01:52:39):
Yeah, like the original cartoon one, like the the even
worse than the Michael bay Ones because it.

Speaker 9 (01:52:46):
Was it do you no?

Speaker 1 (01:52:49):
I well, I was not a fan of opt them
as Prime being killed off, so that kind of killed
the movie for me. But yeah, it was funny because
we accidentally walked into the wrong movie theater and Top
Gun was playing, and then we realized we were in
the wrong one, so we went and found the theater
in about ten minutes, about thirty minutes into the Transformers movie.
Because I was on one side of my brother and
my dad was on the other, we looked over each other,
so we should have just stayed at the other theater.

Speaker 9 (01:53:11):
Yeah, I was gonna watch the Airplane movie.

Speaker 1 (01:53:14):
Yeah, I And that's one of the reasons why when
they finally made Top Gun Too, I swore to myself
I would see in the theaters because I didn't do
it with the first one. And I'm so glad I
did because while it, I mean, it's it's cheesy, but
hell if you go back and watch the first one
and it's got some cheese in it too that you
didn't really notice at the time. But yeah, and it
was just but that that was again some sort of

(01:53:37):
like a programming shift, if you will, because that was
the first movie that was put out in forever that
was actually pro America, and they fought to make it
that way. Yeah, it was just but yeah, and that's
that's part of the paradigm shift. So again, again, you know,
it's just and with some of it, with some of
the things in as quickly as they're shifting, it's a
there there there has to be.

Speaker 9 (01:53:58):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:53:59):
Like I said, there's just so many different rabbit holes
you can go down with this topic. When you really
start realizing that all of the little all of the
little offshoot tendrils, if you look at them, actually kind
of give you a more potentially complete picture of everything
that's going on, is kind of really weirds out.

Speaker 9 (01:54:15):
Yeah, and that's what it's. You can mash all all
these together.

Speaker 2 (01:54:19):
And I'm so glad you stumbled across the nineteen eighty
eight theory because or anomaly, because that actually kind of
fills in some gaps for me with the Mandela effect.

Speaker 9 (01:54:30):
And yeah, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:54:35):
Just it's like I said, I I've just jumped into
that rabbit hole. I've digested everything I can find on it.
And it's relatively new too.

Speaker 1 (01:54:44):
Yeah, it hasn't been around that long. Yeah, But again,
I mean think about this for a second. This supposedly
happened in nineteen eighty eight, and we're just it's just
now being discussed, right. I. I mean, it's just like part
of it that you talked about earlier, the drought that

(01:55:06):
supposedly impacted half the country, and I don't even remember
it now. Granted in eighty eight I was sixteen, so
but I mean, if I'm traveling from the East Coast
to the bread basket of the world and don't realize that,
you know, there's a very terrible drought and people are
going hungry, something's wrong. Dude.

Speaker 9 (01:55:27):
It was dustible. Seriously, I mean, it wasn't like you know.

Speaker 1 (01:55:31):
The Yeah, it wasn't a great depression dustbel but from
from what I'm reading from the research that I did,
it's supposed to have been close to that. I'm like,
I lived through that. I do, only are I supposedly
lived through that? I don't even fucking remember that? Yeah,
because that was that was the summer that well, that
was the summer that we moved home.

Speaker 2 (01:55:53):
You're going through the quickening part of it. Twos you had,
you know, Chaneman Square wasn't eighty nine. Fall to Soviet
Union was an eight. It's between and that just in
that timeframe. So much happened in that twelve month period
and then it just kind of stopped.

Speaker 1 (01:56:14):
It's kind of weird to think about. I mean, with
as quickly as we were progressing to everything have basically
stayed nearly the same, except for like New skins and
then and I think what makes it even weirder for
me is for everything to have stayed the same for
as long as it did, and now suddenly everything seems
like it's exploding, because it's like you said, you know,

(01:56:36):
there were all of these medical breakthroughs and stuff in
the eighties, and then it seems like there really wasn't
any for forever, and now all of a sudden, they're
talking about being able to use Crisper to get rid
of sickle cell disease. They're talking about being able to
use Crisper to clone the humans and eventually possibly even
being able to clone organs. And one of the people
that was giving a talk about this, and this was

(01:56:58):
like back in the nineties, and which is again a
throwback to the whole thing we're talking about, because back
in the nineties there was somebody that was giving a
talk about this stuff and talking about how they were
actually able to successfully clone humans, and nobody did the
what the fuck face, nobody laughed about it. It was
just brought up during like that times version of a

(01:57:21):
Ted talk, and the conversation just kept going and somebody
brought up, well, if we can clone humans, can we
clone Organs yet, and he's like, no, we can make
the whole loaf of bread, but we don't have the
ability to make a slice yet, And the conversation just
kept going. And again I don't remember that either, because
with as much of a science nerd as I am, I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:57:42):
Pretty sure about my part radar somewhere.

Speaker 1 (01:57:45):
I mean, if I'm just saying I'm pretty sure I
would have remembered somebody saying yeah, we were, because I remember,
because I remember freaking out about the Dolly cloning thing,
like the sheep cloning thing. That kind of freaked me out.
This happened supposedly a couple of years after that during
a conversation. Dude was like, oh, yeah, we've gone way
beyond she We can actually do this now. And nobody
laughed about it. And I was reading that the other

(01:58:09):
day and it was like, I'm pretty sure I would
remember if somebody had just passingly mentioned in conversation that
we could clone people.

Speaker 9 (01:58:19):
And that's a talking about it too.

Speaker 2 (01:58:21):
Is the last time you ever really heard much about cloning,
like you break through science and cloning was Dolly? And
I was like, Okay, well that didn't work out the
way that we planned and just kind of shit cracked
candle the whole thing. I mean, yeah, chrispher was always
on the back, just like talking about AI and you know,
going to Mars. It's always just been on the back burner.
Now it's like, oh, fuck, we're doing it.

Speaker 9 (01:58:42):
Let's go.

Speaker 1 (01:58:43):
But how did it go from back burner to we're
nearly there? Yeah, or we're doing it, you know. I mean,
I feel like we're living the technologically advancement version of
the Bill Ranley Meltdoon, see right, because we went from no,
we can't do it to fuck it, we're doing it.

Speaker 2 (01:58:59):
Like I mean, we're all, I mean, you and me
and Jeffy, we're all kind of sci fi nerds just
to be the stuff that would be on our radar.

Speaker 9 (01:59:11):
Yeah, like dig science. You know, we understand you know,
heavy science.

Speaker 1 (01:59:19):
You know, history and sci fi have always been where
I live. And I'm just looking at all this stuff
and I'm reading about all this stuff that supposedly happened
like thirty years ago, and I'm like, what now you're
telling me we've we've not not even theoretically supposedly been
able to clone humans since the nineties. Yeah, And again

(01:59:44):
it's it's like the Tucker Carlson UFO moment. It's like,
when the fuck did this become mainstream? And why am
I just finding out? And but but again this, even
this again ties into our bills the theory of the quickening,
because it's like, once you reach that tipping point, there's
no stopping it and it just starts speeding up. So

(02:00:07):
even taking everything else and removing all the rest of it,
it could be that through human intervention, they've done everything
they could to slow it down for as long as
they could, and they can't do it anymore. Sure because
the well and the other thing is because now I'm
wondering with as quickly as some of this stuff has changed,

(02:00:28):
how much AI is already playing playing a part in
some of our advancements now that it's not just a
stupid little Oh, I'm just gonna draw you a cute
little picture, because dude, I will be honest, Grok has
become my little personal assistant on show prep a lot
of times. Ye I'll be trying to do like a
million different things and I'll already have all these things
that I want to talk about. I'm like, okay, so
I want to talk about this topic, this topic, this topic,

(02:00:50):
this topic, put them together and the little money. Yeah,
And I mean, like, especially if I'm looking for local stuff,
because I usually spend so much time doing national stuff
that I'll usually use him to find local stories and
find the sourcing for it to find out what's being
talked about here so I can weave it into the
Daily Show. But yeah, it's just I don't know it.

(02:01:11):
Just again, it went from this cutesy little idea to
all of a sudden, this thing can do all kinds
of crazy things. I mean, that's like, I guarantee you
a lot of people that do artwork and animation work
are shitting themselves right now wheneverybody because I don't even
know what program they're using. But I was thinking about it,
because did you see the little graphic that Jeff put
together for a juxtaposition. Yeah, I thought about finding little

(02:01:35):
animation program that everybody's using and just getting that set
up to where it looks like our mouths are talking
and just leave that playing in the background the entire time.

Speaker 2 (02:01:44):
Oh I actually, yeah, uh tattoos show after that? Well, okay,
so going along with this too. Sometimes it's just happened
this week and This is just kind of like you know,
when you were talking about you know, when we were
talking about Chrispinn, I think something I'm kind of military
history that and you know, I'm kind.

Speaker 19 (02:02:02):
Of I.

Speaker 2 (02:02:04):
I follow what's coming new, and you know, into the
battlespace and everything. I've been watching everything has been talking
about the SR seventy one replacement. They're calling it the
SR seventy two, blah blah blah blah blah blah. And
then just week, oh hey, we got the F forty seven.
Now we're just we're gonna roll it out. We're just
going into production now.

Speaker 9 (02:02:23):
Not even on my radar.

Speaker 2 (02:02:24):
I know they've been talking about a six gen aircraft,
but that's like, you know, and you kind of like
the joke is that we'll invent something China and Rush
will say, oh yeah, well we've got something better, so
then we have to make something that's better than that.
But they never really actually made that thing, so then
we just keep our air dominance for the next fifty years.
So yeah, okay, so F forty seven's going into production.

Speaker 1 (02:02:45):
Well yeah, well, well then other thing that freaked me
out about this is apparently this has been a thing
since the Biden administration, and Biden was trying to show it,
and I'm like, I don't ever remember hearing anybody talk
about this.

Speaker 2 (02:02:55):
Yeah, I mean even got his prototype name. I have
no memory of it. And that's actually something that should
have been hopping up on my YouTube recommendations, you would think,
I mean, especially especially if it's been designated the forty
seven the entire time.

Speaker 9 (02:03:08):
No, they just named it that well.

Speaker 1 (02:03:10):
I mean it well, I know it had to be
because it was named ever Drump, but still, I was
just like, that just seemed that's just weird. But oh,
speaking of living in a simulation, the minute I talked
about the fact that it normally only rains at night,
we had a thunderstorm here for thirty five minutes and
now it's gone.

Speaker 2 (02:03:27):
Yeah, because that's how shit works.

Speaker 1 (02:03:32):
Well, we did it, my friend, we did it. We
have done the full four hours now on the Mandela Effect.

Speaker 9 (02:03:39):
And are you episode in the can.

Speaker 1 (02:03:42):
Blown a few people's minds, especially with that seventeen at
least I hope anyway, all right, man, where can folks
find you?

Speaker 2 (02:03:48):
Uh?

Speaker 9 (02:03:49):
Shit, I don't know, you know me? As ordns Packard
on Twitter.

Speaker 2 (02:03:56):
Strangely, still, I am so close to ten thousand followers.
As I can taste it. This will be the furthest
account has ever made. Yeah, I've gotten up to ninety
five hundred on previous account.

Speaker 9 (02:04:06):
This will be the first time.

Speaker 1 (02:04:07):
You're gonna pass me soon and I'm gonna be sad.

Speaker 9 (02:04:10):
Well, I don't know. I mean the way this last
hundred has been trying to get.

Speaker 2 (02:04:14):
It the uh let's see. They'll probably find me on
Manorama this week on Tuesday, unless something weird happens again
Wednesday with you on Rick and already I yeah, no,
this isn't a toxic masculinity week and Thursday with Brad
Schlager on the Culture Shift.

Speaker 9 (02:04:31):
How about you? Where can people not find you?

Speaker 2 (02:04:34):
Oh?

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(02:05:39):
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(02:06:01):
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Speaker 9 (02:06:35):
Thanks you right

Speaker 1 (02:06:37):
Things Rick hasn't heard in five years.