Draymond Green won't change, Sports Betting is getting weird, Caitlin Clark gets $5M offer not from WNBA

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him. Bro, how you living? How are we doing? I didn't
come up with a name. Iforgot to do that. I'll have them
by the end of the don't worryabout it. By the end of the
show. Yeah yeah, yeah,then you can just go back. You

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can just take my audio from theend and move it to the and move
it to the front. Sounds likea lot of work. I'm not gonna
lie to you. That's why Idon't do it. I respect, so
I respect hustle. That's why afterseven years, I'm I'm a guest and

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not a co host. I'm nota producer. I'm not your manager.
I am I may, I mayguess this is true, and this is
exactly why I'm the only one Iget paid here. Yeah, is why
I do not. I do notreally done. And that's why my my
presentation is less than his, becauseuntil I seed some money, I'm not

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being a profession I don't think theaudience would prefer you any other way.
It's fun, but you know,listen, you could, you could get
like, you know, professional,actual real takes as opposed to me,
just like I don't think you.I don't think you have a different mode.
That's not true. You know that'snot true. No, I think,
but most of your basketball takes onhere are pretty pretty round. Nty

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Griggy, I am. I'm lockedin not But that's like if we're breaking
down tape, it's a different story. But in terms of talking basketball,
you probably you're essentially the same.You might have like a hot dog throw
out from here or there, andon the other side of the kitchen here

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or there, but outside of that, it's essentially the same, well rounded
takes. I would say, whatdo you think you've had that's been so
out there? That's aside from yourregular takes on here, it's probably been
wrong, So I'm not gonna rememberit. I respect that. Do you

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remember any of the right takes?Listen if I'm not. If I'm not
right, I don't care. Justpushed it out of memory. You got
asked me, oh, do youremember you saying? No? Was I
right? No? I don't rememberit. What do you mean I'm I
intintly remember something I'm wrong about,you know what? I respect it.

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It's like unless you bring it tome, like, you better bring it
to me in the tweet. Youbetter assume me a screenshot, you better
send me a recording, you bettersend me something on me saying it.
And even then I'm still like maybe. Hey, That's why I always love
on these talk shows when people sayone thing and they're wrong. Bro,
even when you bring the recording,they'd be finding a way to tap dance
out of it. Bro. They'dbe like, bro, nah, because

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because that's what se alright. Onething I've learned uh from an influential person
is never make your wrong just don'tdon't say it. Two things. Two
things you never do. Is itmake your wrong to say sorry? Wait?
Why why the sorry? Because sorryimplies that you're that you did something
wrong that's notts, so you neveryou never do those. If somebody tries

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to blame, just a flect,you just constantly deflect, just do yep,
and you just drag it out andefsically they'll either stop or they're just
gonna move on. Bro. That'sterrible, it is, but it works.
I like to live my life forthose principles. Did these principles apply

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to relationships too? Absolutely? I'venever don anything wrong with the relationship my
life. Oh no, you aresaying you're you're single? Correct? Yeah?
Sure? Yeah? Hey come on, what's it called? The great

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thing is if I wasn't a relationship, they would never know I was on
there, so it wouldn't matter whatI said. So these hours are just
incognito in your life, exactly.This guy is a man's soxacactly my point.
I just said, hey, wereyou on Bridges podcast? No?
You got that was like you hateme? Yea, all right, Sid,

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it's your conversation is over. I'mnot ron. Why are you like
this dog? I'm not on ita minute and so it's like, all
right, conversations over they he pressingme. I'll just keep the blessing you
pressing me. You're pressing me becauseyou got something you're trying to hide.
You. I love that you first, why do you want to know where

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I was? So badly? Wherewere you? Why? Why are you
pressing me? So you're like whatyou gotta hide? Turns on your mind
that that you're coming to me soaggressively. Oh no, oh dying bro,

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this is terrible. This is awfuladvice. This is not this is
terrible advice. He had. Listen, we have had the person the person
I tried to emulate what A wasa whole president? Oh my gosh,

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Like I think I think that isthe ultimate. Bro. The minute you
said that, all I could imaginethat you're getting close to the microphe saying
wrong. That's a lucid. Ifeel like that's the pinnacle of being an
American, you know. Oh no, which is like, which is what

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I want to be Earlier We're notgonna reaction, but I feel like I
feel like, once again, oncewe start our our our life at Vice
Podcast, you know, we'll gowe'll go deeper into this that one's going
to be unchained. Bro, yougot another person we're gonna bring on here,

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well, well well versed in inlife and really bringing it from the
street. I should do a pollon that. Would y'all want to podcast
on the streets? Absolutely? Justcall it the streets? The problem is
the problem. Though. You can'tsay that and then not hav him come
on here at least once. Eventhat's the war, Yeah, yes,

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oh okay, but yeah, likeabout ODU, Dave, no, it
was there was. I think lasttime might have been like twenty eighteen.
Oh okay, yeah, it mighthave been the whole different time. It
was a different time, Broose,those are different. It was a different
world back then. Bro, theMCU was popping. They're still popping.

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What do you mean, I don'tthink they're at the height of like what
an Infinity War, an Endgame andstuff was. That's eighteen. Yeah,
I think I'm pretty sure. Right, I still have not seen I still
see anymore? Are you serious?I think I think a better question is
have you seen any of the Avengersmovies? Yeah? Yeah, all right,

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so we went to the Avengers movieand I fell asleep, that's right.
Yeah, I remember this man saidhe was not. I went to
sleep. I woke up to thehut pounds of that man's face into the
ground. Oh that was the otherway around, Ian punching Hulk's face into

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the ground. And I was confused. What was going on? That is
nuts, bro, Yeah, infinnedywere twenty eighteen. I watched, No,
I watched, Actually, I watchedthe favorite movies. Endgame was twenty
nineteen. Wowow that face twenty twelve. Yeah that I always remember Avengers of
twenty twelve. I always remember thatas easy. Okay, I watched age

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of of all the Avengers movies.You watch, You watched age of Voltron.
It was on TV. This guy, man, that's just that's just
misoriented priorities. The next one isin twenty twenty seven. That's crazy.
Yeah, but I think some ofit their timelines, Their timelines have kind

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of been goofed with a lot ofYeah. So the world's whole new place.
I forgot they can change the wholenew place. Your actors get caught
up and stuffy. Yeah. Thevirus that won't be named, Yeah,
you know affects all your production.The whole thing does. And no another

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thing it affected was the NBA didfor the whole put us in the whole
bubble. Some some call it MickeyMouse Championship, you know, because they
were in the bubble. All right? Man, alright, how to tell
you people? To tell you whatpeople say? Well, another team looking
to go back and win the championshipis actually the Golden State Warriors. You
see how I did that? Man, that was such a clean segment.

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No, so yeah, I setyou up so you can say, another
team that's outside of the bubble rightnow, outside of the bubble right now.
Everybody's outside of the bubble right now. Nof bubble. Man, they're
in the bubble. No they're not. They're in the they're in the playing.
They're not in the play All theplaying is like the playoffs. Bro,

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Yeah, I count what the playingstat you count? I'm sorry?
All right? When the playing,when the playing is played, do they
count of as an eighty third game? Do they kind of a talk about
the Warriors trying to make a casehere? Man? Anyway? Warriors?
So right now, you know,the go to State Warriors. They came
off a fresh win over the OrlandoMagic in a game where Draymond Green gets

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gets ejected four minutes into the game, and it's kind of crazy because you
see the ejection and I was like, oh my gosh, Draymond just back
off from the ref right he getsthe first technical and then you see he's
kind of hovering around the ref,staying around him. And then when you
can read lips, you just seehim say the three words and you're like,
ah, man, he's gone.I knew the mini. And the

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crazy thing is it's like, Ithink I don't know. I think there's
only so much well, I guessI'll get further into that, but Dreymond
gets ejected. Right at the momentof his ejection, Steph Curry just looks
dejected, and it's hard to tell. I think he had tears in his
eyes at this what people were sayinglooking at the clip, his eyes did
get red and like he was likegetting emotional about the fact that Draymond had

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got ejected. Because essentially, eachgame now for the Warriors is a must
win, and they don't have thatcushion to really be losing games here and
there. They really have to winevery single game with especially with their circumstance
of the Houston Rockets being under tailbecause right now the Warriors are tenth in
the Western Conference, in the secondplaying spot at thirty eight and thirty four,

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and the Rockets, who have wonnine straight games, are thirty seven
and thirty five. They're only agame behind the Warriors. So they're just
sitting there looking their chops like,lose, just lose, and when it
comes down to a tiebreaker, Igot to check who has the tiebreaker between
the two teams. But the Rocketsare sitting there salivating because they think that,
I mean, they've been playing sowell as of late, and if

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the Warriors are in this downturn,especially when you have a moment where Draymond
Green just kind of goose himself outof a game, and the Warriors aren't
markedly a worst team. When Draymondis not there, Steph's three point percentage
is lowered, he doesn't get asmany good shots, and Steph didn't even
have a good game in this game, but the Warriors found a way to
win the game. And kind ofbrings me to this point of talking about

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what I was alluding to earlier,is that I do sometimes wonder where because
Steve Kerr always tries to somewhat protectthat essence of Draymond, the competitive side
of Draymond, right, because that'spart of why Draymond's as great as he
is, is that competitive edge.But at some point, I'm like,
that can't just be the reason,man, because you have plenty Michael Jordan,

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Kobe Bryant, all these other guysare marketed as these cerebral killers competitors,
and they weren't just getting tossed outof games like this left and right.
So at some point, even thoughDraymond was suspended earlier in the season
and definitely at one point so hecan go and get help to fix these
type of issues, We're starting tosee old habits come back and reform themselves.
And it's one of those situations whereyou really start to look at them

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and you're like, damn, dude, Like, even in the situation like
that, you know y'all's back againstthe wall, do you just think you
have that much rope? The refsis not going to eject you. And
it's funny because I saw this memegoing around on social media where people were
saying, there's a steph is walkinginto the back of the locker room and
he sees Draymond there and Draymond's doinglike the night Night celebration that Steph does.
And I see so many people makinga tweet saying I would have punched

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them right there on the spot,and it's funny. But due to the
circumstance, now that we're in forone, I want to I'm curious what
you think of your thoughts, Butdo you think that the Rockets have a
chance here to catch the Warriors,especially when you consider the fact though looking
at the rockets next few games andcompare listen to the Warriors. So the

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Rockets are slated to play up nextto Jazz and the Mavericks. That's their
next two games. Then the finalremaining games are the Timberwolves, the Warriors
again, the Heat, the Mavericks, the Magic, the Jazz, Trailblazers,
and the Clippers. So that's theirschedule. Then on the Warriors side,
the Warriors have the Hornets, theSpurs, then they have the Mavericks,

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the Rockets, the Mavericks, theJazz, the Lakers, Trailblazers,
Pelicans and Jazz. If you hadto put your money on which team you
think gets that temp seed, whoare you picking? I'm gonna pick the
guy playing like an MVP and JalenGreen, who's carrying is here carrying a
squad here? I mean looking atlooking at the Warriors. The Mavericks are

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eight and where they ninety one intheir last man. You play them twice.
You played the rock who are streaking, You play the Lakers who you're
jo and you play the Pelicans.That's a rough, that's like rough,
like stretch to play like the teamslike the teams that you lifted aren't aren't

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like great teams like overall in theirin their record, well on math,
I won't get the games, butthey are. They're all hot right now,
is the issue. And it's likeeven games like san Antonio, like
Santonio is not a guarantee. Yeah, and so let me see when you

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say, as they play, like, if I'm looking at it, I'd
much rather play. I'd much ratherplay the Rocket schedule. I mean they
don't have great beads, were theyboth? I mean yeah, I mean

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they and you give me is reallyeither they have the Trailblazers. They both
have the Trailblazers. That's the onlygive me on both their schedules. Well,
no, they play the Wards playsa hornet but man, it's crazy.
They don't have it, Like nobodythey neither give me. And I
think that's the tough part. Well, and that's where it comes down to,

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like who do you think can justclose out of the next few games
better? And who do you youlook at? You look at the way
the Rockets are playing me? Andthey beat the Thunder last night, they
beat the the dudes, I meanthey just they've just they're just hot.
I mean Jalen Green decides just playingout of his mind. And like the

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words looks like I think we mentionedthis last on the words is just like
it's not a good name, Likeyou know, it's it's once you get
past the names and like, oh, it's like once you get past the
it's staff Draymond Clay, it's thewords. Like the games just not that
good. Yeah, And it's likeand they're not they're not on a hot
streak. They're not rolling, they'renot you know, we won last night,

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which was the phenomenal game, butthey you know, like they wanted
to get the heat of the heat. Half the team was out. They
beat the Timberwolves. I mean theylost the timber Wolves in a terrible way.
It's just like nothing they've done inthe past months has inspired you to
be like, oh man, allright, this team's gonna lock in now
and finish your season how strong?Like No, I don't. I don't

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trust them at all. And Ithink that's the weird part for me because
I think you it was like probablyjust only a few days ago where Steve
Kerr made the comments saying about howwe can't we can't ride Steph right or
something of that story. He said, we can't ride Steph like crazy or

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whatever the case might be, allthe way to to like this chance to
try and get to the playoffs becausethey're putting too much on steff shoulders.
And in a lot of ways,I think that all came into its head
when you saw Steph getting emotional there, because it's just like, bro,
I need help and we don't haveany. We have the smallest margin of
error here. Because I believe Kminga'shurt for them too. I think in

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that game Looney was hurt, andyeah, that's why it was just one
of those things. Losing Draymond inthat instance was just crazy. And it's
just funny because I think when itcomes to being able to win like must
win games. I'm gonna put mymoney on the Warriors because I just think

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they have the best player. There'sliterally no re there's literally no reason to
trust them other than that, becauseI think that tried and true experience does
win out. I think Lebron andJJ on their podcast Mind the Game,
I think they make the case.They make the point about, you know,
just high basketball IQ teams. Ithink the Warriors are still one of

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the peak teams when it comes tobasketball IQ, and it just comes to
executing their Their pieces aren't as goodas they used to be, right,
and that shows in a lot ofways. But I think when it comes
down to it, they still havetwo guys who can knock down critical shots
and critical moments. They still havethe guy, a guy who's on most
nights, the best player on thefloor. So I think I have them

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getting into that that play in spot. Do you think there's any chance they
catch the Lakers for ninth? Nochance? Acute, because the funny thing
is it's weird because you said nochance. They have games in what eight
games? Yeah, the Lakers areinconsistent too. They are you want to

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a team that's actually actually beating atthe right time, except against the teams
they need to be I mean,yeah, but I mean what five in
a row. Yeah, they havewon. They beat the Hawks, Lake,
the Hawks, seventy six Ers,Pacers, Box, and Grizzlies.
Bad teams, but they won theirgames. It just the last before that

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they lost to the Warriors, thelast of the Kings. Yeah, but
look at the end of their schedulethey played the Nets, the Raptors,
the Wizards, the Grizzlies like thatmuch favor Like, come on, that's
so much more favorable than than theYeah, and then their tough games are
they have the Pacers, they havethe Calves, Timberwolves and Pelicans, and

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the Warriors like the outside of thethe Pelicans, the Timberwolves, they can
like outside those two like those twogames of the games you look at you're
like, those are tough games,like the Cave just lost of the shot
cast a super insist Oh let's see. The Warriors were literally talking about how

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that than they are. The Raptorsdon't have Scottie Barnes. The Pacers are
inconsistent, like they're all like he'slike they're toughs, Like they're tough games,
aren't like the Warriors where it's likethe Warriors are playing like really good
teams. Yeah, yeah, it'scrazy, you know, like you say,
like again, Mavericks, Mavericks,Mavericks are better than are better than

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probably the teams that the Lakers aregoing to play. This is random,
But do you think the Warriors shouldbe in this position? Like looking at
that roster, should the Warriors bea ten seed? No? And okay
and tough? Okay, yeah,go ahead, go ahead. I think
it's tough because you look at playbefore I say this, I want to

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pick play. Last year hit themost reason the league. Yeah, and
then this year he comes in andthis is like and this is you know,
just test him, how great playis? He shooting thirty eight percent
and that's probably the worst of hiscareer. Yeah, and so yeah,
he's shooting thirty eight percent. Thelast that he shot thirty eight percent,
he played thirty two games. He'snever shot he never shot under forty percent

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except for the year he got hurtand shooting thirty eight and he's shooting a
career like, uh, it's secondworst percentage. Field goal percentage is the
obviously, like when you're you haveyour achilles injuries, it's like you know
your your your defense is worst.He's posting what he's just posting like like

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worst out, like the worst numbersof almost the worst number career. It's
just weird because the Achilles, likethe season fresh off the Achilles was last
season, and so now it's likeit's weird that you would have thought last
season would be the season of struggle. Yeah. Yeah, he had three
hundred and three last season. That'sthe weird thing he hit. And it's

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like he comes into this year,he goes from twenty two points to seventeen
points. He drops. But here'sthe thing though, So I wonder because
there was an interesting point brought uptoday by Jay Williams on First Take where
he says high level people in theNBA were texting him and questioning Steph Curry's

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leadership for not being able to controlDraymond Green. And I don't want to
just isolate it to Draymond Green,because I don't think this is I don't
think when you look at the we'vetalked about this for both the Lakers and
the Warriors. We don't think theLakers, nobody we didn't have the Lakers
being a ninth seed right now,at this point in the season, coming

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into the season, just like Idon't think anybody would have had the Warriors
at this point. But do youthink any of this is reflective of leadership
from on Steph Curry's part? Whenit comes to Draymond Green, they lost
Draymond Green for such a big partof the season. You could argue that
a lot of those games that Draymondmissed play a role in where the team's

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predictaiment is. Now do you thinkthat? Do you? I mean,
do you give any bearing to that? That notion? Man? No,
I hate talking on leadership because it'slike you're not in the locker room with
them, You're not in the inthe team. You're not in the you're
not with the team. They're like, you have no idea what X y
Z is doing. So I've alwayshated leadership conversations because it's it's so stupid

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to to you can't. You can'tequate it. You can't, there's nothing
to equate, right, Like youcan't, it's approximated, like you can't,
you can't tell like Graymond's grown Raymondsa grown man, grandma thirty four
years old. I was just gonnasay that, yep, Like Draymond's like
thirty four clay oh, Clay play, thirty four stats, thirty five,

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thirty six, Like what what doyou like telling them? Grown man?
Everybody got kids? How he's gonnaadd right? It's like it's like in
Draymond. Draymond has been the league. Draymond's old enough to know how his
actions affect the team. He talksabout it on the podcast, and so
like, I mean, what doyou want, se what do you want?
And while he's talking, and that'swhy there trying to like he's trying

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to pull him away from the ref. But it's like, again, Raymond
Brown, if you want to talkto the ref, he don't talk to
the ref. And this is whereI think media is unfair. And that's
why I wanted to talk about thishere because I think media does this thing
where they they just because a guyis the best player, they expect the
guy to have like the whole teamunder his thumb, like a ring leader.

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It's just like that's just not evenhow things work. Michael Jordan didn't
have Dennis Rodman under his thumb allthe time when they were playing together.
That's not how that worked. It'sjust not like these are grown people,
and the notion that and just becausesomebody is the best player or the main
cog on the team, they cannow control how someone that performs emotionally and

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how they arrive mentally. It's justa ridiculous notion. And I just wish
it's one of those things. Iwish people will stop trying to use these
type of arguments to uplift people's careersand to try and detract from people's careers,
because this is just that topic orthat conversation does nothing but just trying
to take away and put some typeof blame on Steph Curry. I think

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it's fair for us to sit andlook at the Warriors from a talent standpoint
and say, hey, this teamis not performing on multiple aspects from the
way that we think this team canperform. Right. I think that's you're
just analyzing basketball at that point.Right, You're looking at the team from
a talent perspective and how they're executingand saying, this just isn't it.
And based on what you were doinglast year, it's hard to kind of

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see why this drop has been soprecipitous in the last season. Whereas I
think last year they were I thinkthey were a six seed. If I'm
I don't have it, I don'thave it right off the top of my
memory. But they made it tothe second round in the playoffs last year,

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and then you look at this seasonand it feels like that's just so
far off right in terms of thisWarriors team. It feels like this team
would be lucky to even make thepostseason. And I just think in a
lot of ways the Warriors have havethere's a lot of money being funneled into
the core three guys, and Ithink when you're looking at how much they're
paying, think they're playing over threehundred million in total tax money, and

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that's that's a lot for a corethat's only able to manage you a tend
seed. And I think that we'reprobably going to see this core break up
this upcoming because what moves did theyhave? I known, or they're gonna
do things like how much Chris Paul'sgetting paid like thirty million? Right?

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Yeah? They Well, you havea lot of you have a lot of
things to happen in this off seasons, to be fair, But what do
you assume that they're going to beone of the most active teams in the
off season now because all right,but see the problem is what's the Uh,
let's see what the I think taxnext year? I think the solid
cap year is forty oh h evenwith even with the let's see, even

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with the with people coming off nextyear, it's not even they're still over
a cap I think. Is itbad one? Yeah? All right,
all right? So next year,uh, they will have their active cap
will be they have one hundred andseventy four million dollars in calf already.

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Geez. And that's that's between whoor are you able to see at least
who makes up Obviously Steph probably makesup about what's forty million of that,
but definitely makes fifty five next year. He makes fifty five next year.
Yeah, okay, that deserved.Draymond is what twenty twenty eight million of
that? It was Steph with fiftyfive, Andrew at twenty six. Uh,

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Draymond is twenty four. Uh.You have player option and Gary Payton
Jr. You have Kevon Looney onthe Keylon Looney has an option, Cominga
has an option, Moses has anoption. But you have so Clay makes

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forty he makes forty three this year. He's off the book, off the
books, and then you have ChrisPaul at thirty mil. You have an
option for okay, I mean youhave those are two. Yeah, but
you're still so like you're still sofar over the cap that it's like they

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might they may have a little bitlike depending on because I mean they're I
think they're gonna be. I don'tthink Clays anyway, Yeah, he's not.
Yeah, he's not making he's notmaking forty million dollars, but he's
he's not He's not done. Dependson what Clay values. At this point.
I think Clay is worth fifteen totwenty and he'll get it probably.

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Do you think Wiggans is worth morethan Clay? Yeah? Probably at this
point Clay still being in a thirtythirty eight percent three point shooter, yeah
probably at so he's still I meanyou three points premium again, are you

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shooting thirty percent? And he stillmade two hundred three this year? Yeah,
And it's like ever since you rememberOffen he was awful for a stretch
home so I mean little cloth displinsbecause he was terrible to start. Yeah.
There, I mean to kick offthis season he was, he's got

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seven points in true shootings since hemoved to the bench. His split and
splits them moving to the bench,well, I mean they flashes forty six
forty two ninety five as opposed toforty one thirty seven in ninety Oh wow.
So it's like, if you're tellingme it's only fourteen games. But
if you're telling me, if hefinishes the season around those numbers twenty twenty

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three and two on forty six fortythree ninety five, yeah, I think
fifteen twenty million dollars. And sobut do you think the Warriors? Do
you think the Warriors will resigned himin that much? But fifteen twenty yeah,
I think he just signed him thatmuch. I think if he goes
over I think if he wants toget over that, I think that's when
you'll see them part ways. See. That's so that's thing I always wonder.

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I just never know how much aguy wants to get paid. I
wouldn't be shocked the team those thatmoney, that those money at him,
No, not at all. Imean I guess ID if a bad team
through twenty five plus mil at atGlade UNSI for two years, that's just
a bad contract though, that's anawful contract. Yeah, a bad team.

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Yeah, if you're a bad team, a young why are you paying
Clay Thompson. You have to youhave to spend the money anyway. Yeah,
I mean, I guess, Okay, I see what you're saying.
Yeah, I get what you mean. Yeah, you have to spend the
money. And it's like, Okay, I want to get a guy who
can shoot, you know, nearlyforty from three, who's got championship experience,

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A bet. I mean, yeah, it's not ideal, but yeah,
I'm a bad team. I wouldn'tbe shopped if they did that.
I guess I would be surprised becauseI think when I think of bad teams
and media, I'm thinking of likeSpurs. I'm thinking Raptors. I'm thinking
Pistons would like I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be surprised because they don't

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need it. But then they're kindof full on the wings. But like
a team like like the I wouldn'tbe shoot Like a team like the Spurs
could use a guy like put putplayer near around limby, somebody you can
he can kick it out there orlike or like or like ca, it's
like you need somebody who can shootthe ball, and like he fits like

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you can't. He fits the prototypicallike three guys you want out there.
Yeah I gets oh yeah, Imean oh yeah. So that's like I
wouldn't be shocked with the team throughthat money. But at the same time,
it's like how much does play value, like, especially since he moved
to the bench right then started thatstarted like a big deal being a guy

(34:34):
of his caliber moving to the bench. Yeah, you know, because it's
like people people were speculating like howhe was answering questions and stuff earlier in
the season that like, you know, he does value he's kind of value
himself a little too much or whatnot, and he kind of just like you
know, you know, I know, I know, man, my career
and he moved to the bench,So it wouldn't shock like I would be
shocked if you if you ask meon shilohdn't said how how much I think

(34:58):
he would say with the words nextgut with it like a seven. Yeah.
I always think the negotiations always,especially in a drop off season,
that's always where because you don't knowwhat's gonna happen with the drop off,
right, and the drop off,because then you're trying to pay a guy
to try to predict whether the dropoff is going to continue or whether it's
going to stay like we're still hereon the level, right. And that's

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and I remember Bob Myer's talking aboutthat, Bob Meyers talking about negotiation.
You want to you pay people ontwo or three premises, rather you pay
them on for what they've done foryou and what they will do for you,
and what for what they are doingfor you right now? And I
was like, what is the differencebetween each oney and he kind of the

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case that he made was that whatthe what they have done for you is
like your last three season's body ofwork and Clay's last three seasons I think
third three seasons ago hurt a killseason healthy. This season is the drop

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off. And what you're doing forme right now? What in one year
when when we're paying this contract,will signing you help us win a championship.
If the answer to that is no, then that's gonna hurt your odds
of getting a bigger deal or evena longer deal. What can you do
for me in the future If thisis gonna be a three to four year

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contract, what is your production gonnalike then? And for Klay Thompson in
that in that aspect or in thatperspective, I Clay has always been valued
for Obviously his ability to come camein off the he always was the offensive
force when Steph was going to goto the bench, or he always took
pressure off of Steph. But he'she's still he's still a threatening shooter.

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I mean, shooting thirty eight percentis above league average, right, but
all around, Clay used to bea more efficient scorer all so it wasn't
just about the threes. He usedto be a more all around efficient scorer.
And then you had the defense tocouple with that. That was honestly
the Warriors upper hand that they hadover a lot of teams. And right
now, when you look at defensiveefficiency, they're just below league or league

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average, They're right below the middleof the pack. And so when you
look at that, you're just seeingthat they're still one of the top ten
shooting three point shooting teams in theleague by percentage. So then when you
look at their defense, you're justrealizing that a lot of that too comes
from their lack of defense on bothsides of the wings. Steph isn't.
Steph has never been the lockdown defender. He's always been okay at defense,

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and Clay was the guy that couldplay really good defense. But now it's
it's obviously taking a step back.So I I that's gonna be interesting to
see what kind of contract he gets, because yeah, that's something Joe lacub
these guys have made it clear thatthey don't want to be paying this tax
next season. But I think youlook at it, Steph, I started

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off to see him ridiculously. Weremember just like Stef start off super strong,
and even he's kind of like he'skeetered out. He's he's not a
great year, don't get me wrong, but it's like the way he started,
like he's had a clear drop fromlast year. Yeah, and and
he's had just more shaky games thisyear than he had. Like, dude's

(38:23):
getting Jesus, I mean, thirtysix, Like he's getting old. Man,
it's like you have just I mean, but it's not even just that.
It's just he's a six three pointguard. He's getting old. Like
it's he can't he you know,he's at some point it's just going to
be over. Yeah, so Ithink you say you have two years last.
Probably I think Draymond's contracts Raymond's contract, I think it's I think it's

(38:47):
like it's either two years. Iwant to I want to say it's two
more years. So I wouldn't beshocked it goes to twenty six, twenty
seven, and so I wouldn't beshocked. Oh, twenty three twenty four
as a player. Oh if theyfound him already. So yeah, I
wouldn't be shocked if they just signedeverybody till twenty sixth twenty seven and then

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they washed their hands from it andmove on twenty five twenty sixth Steph last
year, I actually okay, SoI probably wouldn't be shocked if they signed
twenty to like twenty five, twentysix, I think Draymond would be done.
I think Draymond retired when when Stephandyers that's a tough man. We'll
see that's three four as well.Like I would be shocked if they retire.

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If stef if Steph like I'm goingto my last you know, my
riot, my last contract, andthat I wouldn't be shocking Raymond and just
followed them after that too. Thisis so crazy, like we're I just
feel like, I don't know,man, It's it's weird. We're from
pretty much our whole entire basketball watchinglives, but majority of it. Steph

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Curry has been a part of it, Lebron's been a part of it,
and it's we're in the point nowwhereas these guys are getting ready to move
on from the game, and it'sit's so weird. I every single time
I watched Lebron, I don't think. It's not in the forefront of my
mind until I think one year he'sjust gonna say I'm retiring, kind of

(40:22):
like the Tom Brady thing where allof a sudden Tom just was like,
I'm gone. Then he came backfor that one more season. And him
coming back to that one more seasongave people that opportunity to go see him
and be like, Okay, wellthis is the last, probably the last
ride. But Lebron he said hemight not even do one. So it's
just crazy to think about. Butall right, let's talk about the It's

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something about one topic that's actually beenbossoming a lot in the NBA recently,
which is sports betting and a lotof players have have had comments about sports
betting. You have it from JasonTatum says that every night he's hearing it.
Guys are asking him to be goingthis much. He needs to put
up this many points. Rudy Gobertnotoriously got the the fine for doing the

(41:08):
money sign obviously to the referees towardsthe end of one game with a controversial
call. Tyrese Haliburton said that alot of fans now just see him as
a prop. They see him asa means of making money. People are
yelling at him to you need toget this many more assists. You can't.

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I don't need you to score thismany points, whatever the case might
be. And it's weird, andit's so funny because all this, all
this surrounds in a weird way,the Show hal Tani story where you go
to the MLB and you have astory where Show hal Tani's interpreter apparently was
betting on international sports, NBA,NFL, so on, but he was

(41:52):
not betting on MLB according to whatthe interpreter says. And it's a story
where show hey apparently might have alegend. They're saying that he got robbed
they're not saying that it was bythe interpreter, but the interpreter's initial story
said that sho hail Tani had helpedhim pay off his four point five million

(42:12):
dollar debt to a bookkeeper, andthat same bookkeepers be under investigation by the
FBI, which is where they foundthe separate multitude of installments of five hundred
thousand dollars paid out to them totry and pay off this guy's debt.
And I don't know, it justall feels like sports betting is ramping up
obviously in sports. Now you haveESPN having a sports book, you have

(42:35):
fan duel, you have all thesedifferent types of DraftKings. What role do
you feel like sports betting is startingto play And do you think it's starting
to get a little close, tooclose to home. I think you even
sent the story of the Raptors playerthat Adrian wargen Narowski have reported on about
how he was you actually you justyou described that, because while I was
reading that, I was like,this is he's cooked? For sure?

(42:58):
He was cooked. Johnston, JohntayPort, Porter, bro Michael Porter,
Jior's brother m Okay go into it. Yeah, yeah, he they uncovered
that so I don't understand sports bettinglike that, so I'm gonna try to
plan it. He So he wasthere, his payouts, his people were

(43:19):
betting his unders and the games thatthey were paying that paying out. He
was the number one payout for thatday. And they went back and looked
at the games that those pants werehappening. He was getting unders and he
was leaving the game like he gothe he claimed yet an infection. He
left the game in three minutes inand didn't attempt to three or anything like
that, but were he unders andpeople were betting his under unders on his
three got out before he attempted won. Then another game, they went and

(43:43):
checked another day when he was thehighest payout for NBA players and he played
four minutes before he said he hada stomach Uh, he had a stomach
sickness and he left the game early. And it's weird that it's like it's
not surprising, like I'm gonna sayguilty or not yet because you know,
obviously with the fact, but it'slike it's not surprising that somebody got caught

(44:06):
up in this whole gambling sports sportsbetting gambling piasto. Then you think about
you turn on the game. It'ssponsored by Drafting, sponsored by MGM,
sponsored by fan Duel. The NBAliterally just talked about it, like right
before the story broke, actually,they had just talked about how you're gonna

(44:27):
have live betting on the lead pass. Yeah, and so it's like,
I don't think anybody is surprised byus, first of all, that gambling
would affect the league. The league'sactually the way that is that it is
particilally doing Like right there, it'scrazy because you're watching an unhole in two

(44:50):
separate sports, Like right after theNBA put out statement talking about how they
wanted to they wanted to lean moreinto it and in an The other thing
is it's just it's like you justquestioned the integrity of the game. Yeah,
if you watch a call happen,you're like, it is in the
back of your mind. It's likeyou watch aft, you watch a ref

(45:13):
do some like some questionable calls,and you're like that's weird, you know.
And then it's like when like theRindy Gobert thing, it's like really
wrong. But it's like it doesn'tlike Dad did nothing but make the league
look bad by having a player inferthat you're like you're that you're doing it

(45:34):
for your for your bed, oryou're doing it for or for the money.
You know, it's a horrible look, but hey, I guess a
terrible look and real, real quick, real quick point. I'm gonna let
you keep cooking. But just interjectbecause it's not like the NBA hasn't had
this in the past. Tim Donaghy, a former referee, was caught betting
on playoff games and so it's likethere's a history with it with the NBA

(46:00):
where there has been a refer directlyinvolved in the game. So and Alex
Ridi, you gobaert doing that moneysign like there's actual like there's a wound
there. I guess you could saywith your points on a previously closed wound.
But yeah, keep going on.Uh And you know what, especially
you look at the talking you seemto talk about the Lakers. The Lakers

(46:22):
freet throws in the most streets thatthey've taken all year, right, and
it's like Jacklob broke it down onlike why and how they have their numbers.
It's like it is a it's justa specific game plan. It's like
the reason why they have this,But how much easier just to say,
oh, the league breaking it forthem. Yeah, you know, it's

(46:42):
like that's just an easy talking point. And it's like as a as a
as a league, you can say, oh, no, you know,
we've bad and all this, thatand the other. But the problem is
and then you literally have a playercome out that you're investigating for betting them
games. And then they have likea whole discord server. Right, he's
in the discors, so he hadhe has a discourse server that is allegedly

(47:06):
just for trading, though not forhis unders. Some people have said that
he does give them information about UNDERS, that information that they haven't shown any
screenshots or anything of that coming outwhere they have shown the screenshots of him.
He did crypto uh you know,he did crypto trading. He does

(47:27):
you know, trading actual stop tradingand stuff like that. And so again
it's all the stuff has come outabout like him like actually trading and stuff
like that, and at this pointit just feels like a matter of time
before they actually you know, findthe like smoking gun and and and get
them. And Michael spoke out todefend his brother. I mean, I
don't blame it was his brother.He's gonna his brother. He handed that

(47:51):
question about as well as you could. Yeah, So I hope, I
hope that you know, nothing comesof and it is just he's just trading.
He's just offering trading advice, andyou know he's gabbling and crypto advice
and stuff like that. How that'sall it is. But it's tough that
you're you're trying to push this andall of a sudden you have now you

(48:15):
know, a potential scale, apotential scandal on your sport, and a
whole other scandal, potentially huge scandalhappening in another sport. Yeah. I've
always I've always felt like not thatI mean sports betting. Obviously, this
show benefits off of the whole sportsbetting craze. Right, there's a portion
of the football season where I spenda lot of time giving people picks over

(48:36):
under and so on, you know, the whole nine prop bets, everything
like that. I guess one ofthe it's weird for how do I say
this? It's weird in a sensehow aggressively the NBA and ESPN have full

(48:57):
on dove into it. I guessthat's the weird part for me because how
easy is it to like be abusedkind of? I guess, yeah,
yeah, And I don't know,man. I obviously it's against league rules
for players to bet on themselves andso on. But it's like you're you're
throwing, You're you're encouraging this tothe utmost degree. And I sometimes I

(49:22):
do wonder if this do you thinkit hurts the game in any way?
Because when when betting is becoming soprominent and the players hear it, obviously
the fan, you start to wonderif there is a I think there already
was an issue with fans not seeingplayers and celebrities in general as humans.

(49:45):
And now I mean I think nowit's just in the toilet, like I
and totally it's totally in the Wesee all the time people post like Facebook,
not Facebook, Instagram messages, Twitter, dms, people yelling at players,
you know, oh you him mybet because you did this, you

(50:06):
suck blah blah blah. You know, I'm singing it up. This is
the PG podcast, But we seethat all the time. Yeah, and
that kind of who was it HaliburnHaliburton pretty much pretty perfectly where he's like,
yeah, it's his prop best.I mean kind of stuck, but
you know, kind of is whatit is. It's so weird. It's

(50:28):
a weird it's it's so weird man. Yeah. See, yeah, college
college basketball is a college basketball.They said they're already starting to look at
at at cracking at Glenn and crackingdown Liment. Oh really yeah, I
mean especially at that level. Imean i'd imagine that level. Yeah,

(50:54):
that's that's nuts. Yeah, I'mreally curious to see how both these two
gambling stories turn out in both leagues. Because imagine if somebody tells you I'm
I'm Tatum. Let's say Tatum hastwenty five points, his over under was
set at twenty six. Man,Because there's even times it's so funny,

(51:20):
because even the announcers are aware ofit. Because there's times where a game
will be like a blowout, right, a team makes a comeback and a
guy shoots like a last second shotand it'll put the team up by like
eleven, when the over under wasset at ten because of the blowout or
the spread, sorry, the spreadrather is at ten, and so then

(51:42):
it's like you end up losing thaton that shot, and people just lose
their minds, like, bro,why did he take that. Oh man,
it's so crazy. I just man, sports betting. It's such an
interesting prospect, how m great andhow it can affect so many aspects of
the league and so on. Butyeah, I didn't particularly care about it

(52:05):
too much when it was talked about, but then like now, seeing like
the I wasn't a fan of it, but it was just kind of like
whatever, it's almost been regulated itproperly, and now it's just kind of
like again, when you start pushingit at when you sponsored, like when
you joined them as a sponsorship andkind of push that, start pushing it,
that's when it got to like,oh, this is probably a terrible

(52:25):
idea. Yeah, it was rough. But speaking of money, Kaitlyn Clark
five million dollar offer from the BigThree to come and play now. Obviously,
Kaitlyn Clark is I would say,easily the biggest star in college sports

(52:46):
right now, and she's a bigpart of the reason why the women's college
tournament is doing bigger and better thanthe men's Right now, people are looking
more forward to women's games with starslike her, angel Rees Juju Watkins,
and I think that those are Ithink those are big catalysts as to why

(53:12):
we're in a situation where now it'sbecause I think it's so funny, because
NIL has changed so much, becauseI really do wonder how much Caitlin Clark
makes off of her NIL deal,and because it's also one of those things
because you know, in the NBA, people are so ready to get out
of college to go make NBA money. WNBA is not the same story because

(53:35):
they don't get paid as much asNBA players. A lot of WNBA players
they get paid they or they takeother playing gigs, playing overseas because of
the fact they don't make enough moneyplaying in the WNBA, so they'll go
and play for teams European leagues andso on. That's what led to the
notorious Britney Grinner incident when she gotarrested. Women have been complaining about their

(53:55):
paying the WNBA for years. Sonow we reach this point where Kit and
Clark where ice Cube. I don'tknow how the story got out right,
but ice Cube said that the intentionwas for them to for the offer,
for the offer to be discussed afterthe championship so the team could focus and
Kaitlyn could focus on their pursuit ofa national championship. But now with the

(54:20):
story being out, obviously this isgonna this does big marketing for the victory.
To be honest, I hadn't thevictory hadn't been on my mind in
a good while, and so thisdefinitely brings it back to the forefront.
But do you think Kaitlyn Clark shouldbe entertaining taking the five million dollar offer
to play in the Big Three?Okay? I think, I think if

(54:42):
you have. First of all,I just want to say one thing before
I even talking about Kantacar Juju Shusterwalking. No, is this Juju walking?
Listen, you're thinking about Juju SmithSchuster from the US Tom, But
I love I love her. Sheis a chalker. I team nobody have
a green light like that. Youknow, I just be looking at her

(55:05):
at her box sport like nine ortwenty seven or like twenty two points,
and I'm like, go ahead,man, that's the right thing. We
missed those times, thirty shots toget thirty points. Miss it nineties basketball,
baby, bro, Listen. I'mnot a huge fan of sucking,
but sometimes I appreciate I appreciate somebodywho's just they listen, they get on

(55:29):
the court, they got one goaland that's a shoot. Get them up,
and that's what she does. Irespect it. You only took twenty
today. Get back out there,bad game. You got either your gat
blown out, you blew them outand you always play a few minutes.
If you got less than twenty fiveshots, that is that is shocking.
You don't want bad enough you gotyou got five assistant only twenty shots.

(55:57):
What you doing? But the thingabout Kaitlyn, so I thought about this
and I was like, I thought, there's two two kinds of ways you
look at it is like do youwant to keep like the myth of like
Kaitlyn Clark. Like it's like,right now, she's not a figure in
college right now? Right yeah,she's she's the face in college basketball.

(56:22):
And so like having her like youhave her, she's about to be the
first overall picks. She's already soldpick us out. She's done this,
that and the other. It's likeyou have this image of her right and
it's like you go to the bigState book and I mean, this is
a nice play. She's gonna getcooked. And do you is that p
R something you want for Kaitlyn Clark? Or is it just like to me

(56:45):
persontly it's five million out that's likethat heartbeat. No, like you don't
even question me. But it's likeif you're if you're building a brand,
it's like you kind of like whenyou're all Lebron got dunked on by Jordan
Jordan Crawford, Yeah, and Hughlike like you know that, don't you
couldn't find you had to was searchingfor it. Yeah, it's like,

(57:07):
could you want to maintain like thispublic image? And so to me,
it's like if you want to maintainthat polity and not shot. But it's
like if you're just like hey,listen, this is get my name out
there, you know more. Andit's like if you get cooked, you
get cooked the cars. You knowyou're going on a w b A,
you can you go, you getcooked, you go to w A,
you cook them and nobody remembers.Right then it was like it's like,

(57:30):
okay, you got put by likelike former NBA players a big deal.
So it's like I don't know,Like to me, I would perfectly take
it, but it's like I cansee why she wouldn't take it if she
wanted to like maintain like if youwant to have that like that that kind
of public image of look how dominantshe is, Look how look how like
powerful she is. You know,she's gonna dominate. But he gets to

(57:52):
the w NBA. She's gonna shedominated college, she's gonna dominate w NBA,
she's gonna do she's gonna dominate overseas. And it's like you want to
build that pr I wouldn't, andyou would take it. I do wonder
if it would make her a pariahin some ways to the other w NBA
players, because that's a that's literallyyou I think, what victory you play

(58:12):
like eight games or something. Youdon't play that many games. It's super
short. Yeah, but it wouldessentially make her I feel like a pariah
because in ways, if she wentout there and got cooked, that only
gives the fought, that gives morefew to the fodder of you know,
women can't play with men in thisand even like old, older, older

(58:38):
NBA players, Right, So youkind of add feel on the fire of
that. Dan, You're you're reallyjust saying that obviously the w NBA,
it's a known fact that obviously thesewomen have perpetuated it too. But in
a sense they've kind of there's away about going to trying to get more
money. I guess you could saythat they've they've utilized, whereas Kaitlin and

(58:58):
she was to go and play inthe Big Three and just say, well
at that I need my money.So and it's like eight games, five
million. I man, easy money. That's such easy money. But the
thing is, I when you mentionedthe brand image, I do wonder if
that would take away from the mysticismlike seeing her get cooked like she would

(59:22):
get cooked. There's no way Ican't. It's like it's like again,
I'm not trying to be like,you know, that kind of guy.
But either first of all, you'retalking about a fresh out of college.
You know you're not going to getlike yeah old, they're old, blah

(59:44):
blah. They played fifteen plus yearsin professional basketball their mind alone or on
different levels, okay, And it'slike that didn't include like the physical difference
and everything that goes on with that, right. And then the other thing
is like listen, you are youyou are gonna be like you remember what
Jarree Lynn came to Miami. Yeah, it was like very little was coming

(01:00:06):
off off like he was on hewas on this tour this man had all
the headlines Miami said, Nah,it ain't happening. Yeah, like like
no offense, Like they're going likeit's gonna be a little bit of the
edge towards somebody coming into the leaguewith all the type. It's like,
we're professional players. We should tosee us. Yeah, I mean yeah,

(01:00:28):
right, because she was what isI don't know how much the big
three players get paid, but maybeif she, if she were to be
getting paid more than them, that'snuts, Kaylen Clark. The funny thing
is she's six foot so I thinkshe could get her shots off. The
problem is ten thousand dollars per game. That's how much they get paid.

(01:00:52):
Let me see, hold on,let me see. Participants in the league
usually earned roughly ten thousand per gameplusponents. Is better tied to winning salary
can reach out to one hundred thousanda city. Yes, that was tanged,
just one hundred thousands. This hasto be a mark. This is
just a marketing play, Oh said, yeah, a market thing. Yeah.

(01:01:13):
I think I think just like twopercent chance she actually goes. But
yeah, it's like you saw again. People gonna feel a certain way.
I mean, yeah, do youpeople will feel The funny thing is,
do you is there any chance shewouldn't get cooked? No, she didn't

(01:01:34):
cooked. I get It's not eventhat. It's like, Bro, she's
cool. She's six feet she's onehundred and sixty five pounds. Yeah,
like you think about the people thatcome out in the league that are like
Bro Seth Seth was six three oneone eighty Yeah, he and it was

(01:02:01):
like their concerns he's too small forthe league. It's actually not to think
about it. Let me see,let me see. I want to say,
like they had Joe Johnson playing.Joe Johnson's six seven two forties,
and like, it's not like he'sa baby like that. That's a that's

(01:02:22):
a like us in the wing playersix three six nine sixty five six seven
six six. Hey, look ifthey if they if they're old, maybe
they they move, they move slowly, Bro, they ain't that old.
Fix three. I forgot Gil's inthere, Bro, Ryan Holland in the

(01:02:46):
Big three. Ryan Holland's seven feetYeah, damn, Bro. She can
just strike from deep. I've beenon fourteen. There's not a single person
that Kaylen Clayton Calrr is caller thanthat. Bro. She can be the
LEAs Isaiah Thomas. She the thingis Royce White isn't a Big Three?

(01:03:07):
Wow, I didn't see that onecoming. That's crazy. That's you know
he made he made like a politicaluh a political run. I think dude,
everybody's running for politics now. Yes, crazy Marty o'donna who Marty o'donnald
Oh, Marty, I think they'reRosie didn't she? You know, have

(01:03:30):
the whole thing? Had an oldthing? We need a culture podcast?
Man, didn't we still playing theBig Three? I saw him a while.
He's still doing it. I mean, I mean there's some old people,

(01:03:52):
but it's like that's my thing isshe could just she just gotta get
space and let it fly. Ain'tain't that many old dudes? Like it's
like it's like thirty like really old, like like all right here, like
here's the team, right, RayRay rayed random teams Mario Thomers, Michael
Beasley, Brandon Rush, Collis Thompson, Tony Allen, Julian Wright was a

(01:04:15):
god damn Like who was she checkingon that team? Oh? Yes?
Cooked it back from what's it called? Mario Salmer is six to like one
eight? She just gotta give Tonyspace. That'd be like the first time
we see the post ninety so youthirty towns bigger than her. Damn,

(01:04:41):
that's crazy. I'm saying. It'slike again and it's like, oh,
well, you know Ai and andyou know Chris Paul underside and it's like,
listen, if they get like ifthey are more power to her,
I'm gonna take a I'm gonna takea shot in the dark year. She
ain't as like as I played.Might we might as well just put it

(01:05:04):
in all caps cooked. I'm justtrying to be like hate one the one
hate. Hey, you gotta yougotta say for the for the what's it
called. You know some people mighttry and get you on this now,
so you gotta you gotta say thatyou're not being sexist. You're not.
I didn't want to say it,but it's like, you know, I'm

(01:05:25):
not trying to I ain't trying tobe canceled out here. Bro. Look,
I can't afford that. I can'tafford it. Look, you're just
you're just keeping it real. Youknow, sexism out here. You're we
trying to master Caitlin. I hopeshe dominates, but listen, hype though
she came through. If I thinkmillions making the w n B A,

(01:05:54):
maybe she might. She might getembarrassed, though, that's fine. Fifty
on me. I've made five millionsin a year, my messa happily,
happily. Can you can shame mefor five million? Look called five million
dollars? Oh no, I gotcooked. I've done worse for ten.

(01:06:16):
It's just like, oh, man, I would be more surprised if people
went in there with the expectation thathe was going to to cook them,
to dominate. Yeah. Yeah,it's like it's like I would be more
surprised than people I went in therewith the idea that she was going to
go in and again, it's noteven it's like if these were like rec
players or something like that, youhave conversations. He is our full on

(01:06:40):
former professional players. Yeah yeah,it's not. Yeah, it's like it's
not you know, and its likeeven regular people, like even regular people
who played like hoseball or like yougot there's a there's a gap. I
think sometimes people don't understand the gapbetween the NBA and like everything else.
Imagine being one of like the bestof and it's so crazy because the stars

(01:07:03):
in the NBA are literally the peakof the peak of most things you can
do in life, like the starsin the NBA are. It's so funny
how people talk about guys like Chucklike you never want to ring, but
Chuck is being a league MVP andstuff like that, like that's you are
a short list of like the thirtygreatest players of all time. Like imagine

(01:07:26):
that your top thirty at doing somethingin your life most of the given times
a starter in the league. Youare one of one hundred and fifty elite
like elite of the elite talents.This goes back this, This goes back
to our conversation or NBA players thatautomatically high to heer men. This does
go back to that. It looksalso, who was Raenberg who talked who

(01:07:49):
said Yukon to to be what?Yeah, he said that. Stupid Mike
Greenberg just be making dumb hot takequotes. I hate when he does that
crap. He does that at leastlike once a year when there's like an
undefeated team on one end of afootball spectrum, like when Alabama was running
through everybody and he said that Alabamacould beat the Jacksonville Jaguars at the time

(01:08:12):
I think they were winless or theDetroit Lions. I was like, Bro,
can we not? Can we justnot do the hot takes right?
Like damn, like your whole brandcan't be hot takes or they just don't
become hot anymore. It's just likeyou just sound stupid. I respect so
hot. If he says it's ahot take, it's a hot take,
he's not something week. It's lukewarm. Bro, it's lukewarm. I'm sorry,

(01:08:33):
not that that's not a lukewarm take. You can say. You can
say a lot of things that's nottake the Alabama could have beat the Detroit
Lions. It's a hot take wrong, but it's a hot day. That's
because nobody believes that's true. That'sa lukewarm take. Because a hot take
is like oh huh, like that'slike I didn't see that coming, but

(01:08:55):
that's interesting. That's a hot take. A lukewarm take is just like and
like go home, Roger, right, Nah? No, I mean what
what what's that like? A hottake, for example, is the Lakers
will will find a way to makeit to the Westernference Finals. That's a
hot take, just a medium warmtake with that with how they would being

(01:09:21):
at ninth the no a here ahot A hot take would be the Lakers
are going to stump their way tothe Western Conference Finals. Yeah that that
that's hotter. That that is HoTTDaniel get there, that's warm that's a

(01:09:42):
that's a take. I can seeit happens. But if somebody, if
somebody something me and says no,they can just go to stomp their way
to the Western hot take, it'ssaying Shake Gilders Alexander will be the m
v P of hot take right now. No, it's weird because I feel
like it's the consensus on it depends. Are you like, like I think

(01:10:05):
he should be If you say,would you that I think he should be?
Okay you if you if so manycame to me, is that I
think sh Shy is the MVP.That's a that's a that's a that's a
a just a warm take. That'sa hot take. Yeah, it's a

(01:10:26):
hot take because I think that,you know, it's the way President said,
you know, I got a hottake. Sies over over Yokic.
Okay, yes, that hot takebecause I think right now the cold consensus
is just flipped to Yokish being MVPbasketball as him as like fifty really.

(01:10:50):
Yeah, he's been so far ahead, like pretty much the entire year.
I mean he's dominated since MB gothurt. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah,
but he's dominated at band numbers.Yeah, he's like fifty two right
now. Gosh damn. Yeah,he's been like that for It's been like

(01:11:12):
that for a while. Holy Mac, gosh damn dude. Yeah, yeah,
it's been there for a while.Okay, Well, before we hit
our final news topic, I guesswe have some smaller news items you can
just touch on real quick. Celticslow thirty point lead to the Atlanta Hawks.
Yeah, quick, quick, twentysecond, ran, what do you
how do you feel about that?A lot of blowing leads recently. Still,

(01:11:33):
I mean there's still a team tocome out with the East. Nothing
changes, no doubt. No youdon't think Miami the thing. No,
No, I don't with the thedo you say that? Now? Don't
dust? They don't judge Miami offof the regular scene. That's what I'm
judging though, I am. Butthis always is how it works, and

(01:11:55):
they proved everybody wrong. Yeah,they're not going to left them. They're
not going fair right now, They'renot you put money on that. Yeah,
I would m hm, okay,go ahead, go off, no
problem, put money on me.That's interesting. You don't think they you
don't think Miami as currently wow mmhmm. And to be fair, this

(01:12:18):
was a guy who was very highon naming. When they trade Terry Rose
here there maybe no but okay,Philly, Philly, Philly with embed back
No god, no, no,no, you don't think they can be
they have a chance to be Boston, No, because he is not gonna
be fully healthy. Yeah. Idid see their debating keeping them out the

(01:12:39):
rest of the year. Yeah,no, it's just no point, like
there's what eight games left AFC,they played Boston. They're they're not.
Yeah, they're not. First ofall, they're not good in the second
of all without EMBD, without beingwithout me, And you're telling me a
out of shape MB who's played sevengames, who's gonna be on a man's

(01:13:02):
rescription, is gonna make a hugethat much difference. Yeah, okay,
that's cood. If that is Listen, if they lost that, break them
up, and break them up,break up. You don't even second over
in the fourth quarter when they're down, that trade, that trade has already
happened. I want to breaking newsof that trade. That the trade is

(01:13:24):
the the frame, the frame ofthat trade, the framework of that trade
is already in the works. Thatis hilarious. That is so funny.
Okay. Then, other other smallnews tidbit, Kawhi Leonard has played the
sixty five game requirement. Okay,round of applause for Kawhi Leonards, the

(01:13:45):
first time he's done it since twentyseventeen. It's actually crazy. That is
crazy. Do you think Kawhi willwin any awards postseason awards or you'll probably
get You'll probably get it all NBAgame fourth seed right now? Look at
all NBA team from my what allNBA team? And should he really probably

(01:14:06):
beat some people outward? From astatistical standpoint, he's averaging twenty three point
seven having a fifty forty eighty.This is what pissed me off about him.
I was telling him. I waslike, dude, you gotta go
on a free throw streak here andget fifty forty ninety. Bro, you're
right at the door. And thenhe started missing free throws and I was
like, whi ka, why whyyou sound like that? You sound you

(01:14:26):
know, you sound like lok betterme wanting him to succeed for himself.
Yeah, sure, I mean Idon't think I can bet. I don't
think that's a bet you could make. You could Hi shoot fifty forty ninety.
There's no way that's a good actualbedible metric. And there's so many
things you can best on. Iwouldn't be shocked, probably right. So

(01:14:50):
that's what if you look at forwards, let me see all NBA is not
well, Okay, So for asyour would you immediately assume Tatum is first
team? Would I assume this firstteam? Where I assume Tatum is first

(01:15:10):
team? I would write, Yeah, gotta be probably right, you say
Tatum is first team Gianni's first teamfor forward's yeah, Brown and Bat is
not eligible for an award. Youhave Kawhi, You've got Hawaii second game.

(01:15:30):
Damn, it's actually crazy. Thiswhole new rule is gonna just change
everything. Yeah, I mean itdepends how you feel about Zion. Yeah,
would you take Would you take Zionabove Kawhi? Now? Why?

(01:15:56):
Now? I'm pretty sure the copperstuck when he's no the work. Yeah,
I mean, Kawhi has been inpivotal to the Clippers being the Clippers
this year at least, I meanbeing a middle therefore for c R in
the middle of the pack. ButI mean he's been pivotal to that.
But I think you I don't.I don't know the Pelicans because I actually
was making a video on Kawhi atone point, so I do know that

(01:16:16):
Kai's one off stats. It wasa double digit difference in terms of Kuhi
is on off, like it wasthat drastic when he's not on the court.
I think question is when we failthe forward with Lebron, do you
take I'm mad you got to sayhis name. Kevin Duran is the second
the other option for I don't think. I don't think Ken is going to
get first team. No, ohokay, yeah, second team, Uh

(01:16:40):
huh yeah. I don't think there'sreally that much. Just look, it's
been getting voted as a point guard, right. Yeah, it's still so
weird to me. I don't thinkthere's really that much just plus thirteen this
year. I don't think there's alot of I mean, unless you're gonna
hold team record against them, Ihave a hard time that's where that's where

(01:17:03):
I would assume it's gonna get heldthat that was my thought because Drant from
a statistical standpoint, I mean,he's playing well. Twenty seven point six,
he's average doing more than Zion allaround, twenty seven point six,
seven and a half rebounds, fourassists, shooting fifty five percent gosh damn
year, fifty five percent from thefield forty three per what Oh that's his

(01:17:30):
last ten. Sorry, that washis last ten, Okay, but I
mean still fifty two point nine percentfrom the field in the regular season three
point percent is for red season,forty two point two, six point eight,
six point eight rebounds, five pointtwo assists. Yeah, he's having
a really good rull around all aroundthe year, twenty seven point six from
the per game points. Yeah,that's why I wouldn't be shocked. I

(01:17:54):
wouldn't I wouldn't shocked if they heldif they held the disappointing season that the
sons of ads and also his whyis just showing him pretty much, and
I'd be like advanced as there is, So I wouldn't be shocked if they
had Durant thirteen why a second year? Is there anybody from the east that

(01:18:19):
now I'm trying to think, no, exactly, NOE thirteen does Lebron get
in that third Lebron second team,So you would put Lebron in over Zion

(01:18:41):
and Durant. I think that's that'sa hard that's a hard premise, bro
h, that's a hard premise.As a nine seed, the West isn't
that huge of a separation, butthey you do know, they just look
at the seating at the same timebecause the West is like, you're only
a couple of games away from yournext opponent. But no, okay,

(01:19:04):
so yeah, okay, So Ithink I think Lebron will get it due
to name flash. Damn, that'stough. That's a hard justification for me.
Chief, He's got to be crushinghim on all advanced, all around
a team impact. If that's thecase, you know, if you if

(01:19:27):
you look at it from a pointof and this is how I feel like
people are gonna look at it.They're gonna look at it from a point
of He's bands numbers wackly better thanZion. I think people you will look
at his team performance the rounds,like the talent around him, and we'll

(01:19:50):
see that Zion first of all,didn't start playing well until the second half
of the season and then be histalent around him extremely good. Already h
either it's actually secutive for the season, by the way, off and hold
on, and you don't think there'sany chance Jalen Brown gets into the mix?
Jalen thirteen, Maybe that's interesting.Wait wait, wait before that,

(01:20:15):
but Jalen Browns will have been absolutelyon a pat since All Star Break because
Jalen Brown's averaging like twenty four lasttime I checked. I'm checking right now,
twenty three five three, number oneseed good. I think I think
they will get it. I thinkthey'll look at it as I would.

(01:20:39):
I would to me, I thinkthey get third. He'd be thirteen.
If somebody, if somebody gets leftoff, it will be Kevin Durant,
no shot, Yeah, Kevin.When book and Bradley Built have missed all
these games, you think Kevin Durantwon. Absolutely he'll get left off.
Wow, absolutely get left off.He first of all, fading down the

(01:21:00):
stret He just had a good game, but he before that, he has
here for some stinkers, So fadingdown stretch. Some teams underperformed, bastly
underperformed, but that but you havethey've had noted injuries though, let's I'm
gonna say, a lot of teamshave no the enterence. I'm just gonna
say, if there's if it comesdown to it, listen, here's here's

(01:21:23):
here's the thing. Here's it comesdown to you. Right. Do you
sit here and say, let's allright, So the second team is gonna
be let's say, Kawhi is Ionma second team? Right, You're gonna
say it's gonna be between the threeof Lebron, Jaln Brown, Kevin Durant.
Mm hmm. You're you're gonna tellme and only Lebron off thirteen.

(01:21:48):
I Lebron better get up to eighthseed. That's all. I'll say,
you better get up to an A. I'll say that, uh, he'll
make thirteen. I yeah, I'mstill betting I would. I don't think
I will probably be saying he willmake second team. I have no confidence

(01:22:09):
that Lebron will make second team.I totally think he's getting a third team
spot. I think second team isI'm definitely gonna go to either Zion,
Katie or or Jason or Jason Rownno shot. They give it to Kevin
rant Overt, Lebron James Wow,no shot. Despite the foul Lebrons had

(01:22:30):
arguably a better outside of like noteven really counting numbers, he's only doing
the only scoring better than him.I thought of that. There's literally no
reason you would you would choose KevinDurrant. That's interesting. There's not I
mean, like he's there's nothing elsethat you would like. There's no numbers

(01:22:50):
that you look at and say,oh, Kevin Durrant over Lebron James.
Here. You really can't even doit from Zion, like you're it's literally
just a team thing. But Ithink that's the interesting part, because I
think how much does the team aspectof it get factored into these I think
for Zion. I think for Zion. That's why I wouldn't be shocked.

(01:23:12):
I would not be shocked if Ithink he'll I think he'll make thirteam.
But I wouldn't be shocking a secondbecause of the Pelopans performing as well this
year. I think I think we'resleeping on somebody else in the East as
well. We might be sleeping onsomebody, but I know, I gotta
I'm trying to think in my ownhead come to I don't know how many

(01:23:33):
games everybody's played, but you puthim on the team that's interesting. I
hadn't thought about Pascal. I thoughtPascal came into my mind. But then
I with the Pacers being at likesix or seventh, I was like,
man, you ain't past making theteam. Yeah, I mean he made

(01:23:56):
it like two years ago. Rightto to Jalen Brown. They would probably
just put Jalen. No, theywould put Jay Yea. They're they're gonna
put Brown. There's no there's there'sno other forwards haven't move in that time.
Brandon Miller has not done enough yet. Martin Rosen is not gonna get
on the team over somebody. Maxhe's not and Max he's not forward the

(01:24:24):
Washington Detroit. No George has achance. No, Yeah, I don't
think so either. I don't thinkPaul George makes them minute the first question
that makes the games? Does he? I don't know how many games are
left. I don't think he makesit. Oh, love fifty six games,

(01:24:44):
Paul George, Oh he's played sixtysix, fifty six you could get
interesting. I don't think he'll Idon't think he will be enough. Yeah,
No, I don't think he's gonnaget it. The you would have
to be listen Kawhi making it Catprobably a lot. No, you'll think

(01:25:08):
Kat has a chance. No,I don't. You'll think why I don't
think that was gonna know, Uhwell he may not. Haven't play enough,
and and I don't listen. Reputationsprecedes people. Unfortunately, Kat does
not have a d reputation. You'renot wrong. Yeah, okay, I

(01:25:29):
think I think you look at thatteam and you saygo Beert Anthony. If
they were if they finished the numberone seeds, I think you have a
conversation there. But hold on,yeah, that's the Nuggets, all of

(01:25:53):
the thunder The Thunders dropped because theythey lost last night. Oh okay,
if they if the timber will isnow because even it's like they're still playing
well without damn man, shy shyhere man. Even if even if hold
on, if he's not back yet, is he? I don't think so.

(01:26:15):
I don't think he's back either.Yeah, he's at fifty games right
now, so yeah, he's he'scooked. Yeah, so the probably not
now. I think those are thoseare your three guys. I think you
have your you have five guys fightor spots basically, Okay, all right,

(01:26:38):
that makes sense. Yeah, Ithink I think that's that's that's gonna
be interesting a lot of it.I think it's gonna also depend on how
this plays out. Because the Sunscan climb, Lakers can climb, is
what can climb? I mean allthese guys can move. I mean there's
only uh, there's only see Lakers. Lakers can climb. But man,

(01:27:04):
they have to get they can.Yeah, the Kings will have to plumb
everybody between the Lakers and Lakers.There one and a half back, the
two backs from the Suns, twoand a half back from the from the
Mavericks, So yeah, they can. The Clippers, I mean, the
Pelicans can move. I mean theycan move up or down kind of,

(01:27:27):
but I would be I'd be shockedif there's a lot of movement at the
end of this. But at theend of this no, yeah, I
mean that's cool. From like fromlike four to four to like, I
don't know for now, even fourthtoo high like six, seven, and

(01:27:48):
eight can move around a little bit. But I'll be shocked. Seven Suns
to seventeen, two and a halfback from the five seed with eight games,
I mean they just have to haveto like going on like a three
game moving trade. Yeah, wehave to win like three to row back
anyways, just to just to likelike just to overtake them. I don't

(01:28:11):
know about that. I don't knowabout that one chief the Clippers and the
folks can flip flip. They're agame back. I mean, they could
flip a flop. But yeah,I think I think I think we're pretty
much I'll be shocking to you alot movement. Like I said, Okay,
well, let's talk about our finalone. Talking about if do you
think the Knicks? This is actuallywhen that you propose, So you give

(01:28:34):
me your thoughts on this, becauseyou were asking me if you think if
I think the Knicks, if healthy, are contenders. Yeah, Nicks without
remember right now there without Julius Randall, Mitchell Robinson there miss those three are

(01:28:57):
completely out. They're getting all they'reall getting healthy. Before before when they
were all healthy, do you guysKnicks are on like a nine game,
ten game win streak, best defensein the league. They were like disgusting
rackings and they the first season.They're The first playoff matchup as of right

(01:29:19):
now would be the Pacers. ButI think it's a paper robe matchup for
pretty much anybody in the playoffs rightnow, and that's a great that's a
great team to return to and tryand work yourself back into. You see,
I think a lot of running andgun and that's for sure. Yeah,

(01:29:41):
your your standing is gonna get putto the test. You would rather,
I guarantee you they would rather runninggun. They have to like fog
down and get into a physical matchupwhere you have to like where you're doing
a lot of a lot of bangingand and making it hard to score.
You can get easier to get intoa rhythmic against them than it would be.
I'd rather play into the magic.Yeah, I would concur with that.

(01:30:04):
I think. I think the Knicks, if they are healthy, they
are a very interesting team because Ithink Jalen Brunson has just shown everybody easily
Jalen Brunson as a I think easilyright now for how he's been playing,
He's like a top three point guard. I would say, wow with how
he's been playing and where he's keptthat team at in the in the Eastern

(01:30:25):
Conference. I think, really mainpoint guards I'm taking right now shy Luca,
h Jalen and then jayl I mean, what other point guard am I
going to take ahead of him?I mean, at least for how they're
playing right now, how the teamis performing, or how he has this
team performing. Okay, because StephStephan at Steph's team is tenth. Steph

(01:30:53):
is a better player. But ifhe oh, hot take, that's a
hot I'm gonna say, hot take, man's about to throw a more fireball.
The I'm trying to think who else? Who else there be? Well,

(01:31:14):
I mean, oh, yeah,there there, right, here's the
Jalen Brunson. Jalen Brunson is ina position right now where it definitely gives
me. He operates him the rolevery similar to how Derek Rose was with
those Bulls teams. Funny enough,under the same coach with Tom Thibodeau.
But when this team is healthy,they have options to help him. And
looking at uh, you are lookingat I just bought it. Daniel Lullard.

(01:31:41):
Well, in terms of playing,I'm talking about how they're playing right
now. I think he's playing betterthan Dame at this moment. Okay,
at least in my opinion, Butgosh, Dame did have a couple of
scorches there, so maybe it mightbe more interesting. Hey, listen,
last three games eleven points on fourto twelve, seven on nine to twenty
nine. Dame just beating this man. Listen and listen. He gave me

(01:32:14):
three skates, three straight thirty pointgames. He's thirty thirty two thirty one
before that. Seventeen on seven tosixteen, ten on two twelve. Men
say you are not picking Dame.I'll be dead over if I let you
fit. I think I think theKnicks. The Knicks are interesting from a
standpoint of they're a good matchup team, right. I think depending on matchups,

(01:32:40):
they're a very interesting team to beable to play. They're very versatile
defensively. They have a lot oflength on their on the wing, on
the perimeter outside of Jalen of course. But I also think they have a
lot of creativity in terms of howthey can get buckets the main guy.
Sometimes I think it's a little tooLook, Julius, I need you to
take about three dribbles at mac.That's it. Three dribbles. Know what

(01:33:01):
you're doing, and that's it.I can't get Julius Randall trying to dance
on people. Man crazy, itgets it gets wild. I like before
he went out and you're talking abouthe needs to need to dial it down.
No, I'm not saying he needsto dial it down. I say
he needs to be more. He'sto decide when he wants to do faster,
That's what I'm saying. I lovehow Julius Randall is attacking and everything

(01:33:26):
like that, even the confidence hehas, but I just need him to
do it more at a faster face. Sometimes my man is doing the late
game Celtics thing and just holding theball, hugging it and trying to play
hero ball. And that's where Iwas gonna go with this, because I
think the Knicks become interesting because youhave arguably the top defensive team when they're
all healthy. You play the Celtics, a team that's notorious for late game

(01:33:46):
non heroicness, it could get interestingwith you. The Knicks are following a
similar mode of my do you think, Okay, they obviously don't have a
guy like Bam, but the Knicksare following a similar mode of the Celtics
or sorry, the Heat. Whenthe Heat were giving the Celtics all these

(01:34:09):
problems, I would say they're moredynamic on offense, but worse on defense.
Right yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean their defense is it
was insane when when they were allhealthy. I mean they were, they

(01:34:35):
were insane. You just got toget the right matchups, Bro, that's
it. Would you so seven gameseries that you take them over the Bucks.
Oh that's a good one because asof right now, that's who they
would play in the second round.I think I still take the Bucks.

(01:34:59):
Still take the Bucks. I stillthink Janice is Yiannis. Obviously. I
think Joanna is still the second bestplayer in basketball. So what second best
player? Oh all right, sohold on a second. Since he's come
to the Knicks og and is asolid plus twenty four. Yeah, it's

(01:35:23):
been insane how much he's helped them. I mean they could easily have been
the second seed if he would havestayed healthy. Him and I don't know
why, I just I Julius Randall'sname escaped my brain for like five seconds
there. But him and Julius Randall, if those guys would have stayed healthy

(01:35:45):
easily, I think they could havemade it to the second seed at that
juncture in the season. Interesting,you don't think so not staying with that,
because I mean if Jannis got hurt, Chris Middleton just came back last
week, a week and a halfago, Yeah, that would have been

(01:36:06):
interesting. I don't think he wasthere when they played on Christmas. Trade
deadline was February, so I don'tremember necessarily when they traded for og It
was they got og Way well beforethe trade deadline though, Yeah they got

(01:36:33):
him, let's see, they gothim right after Christmas. But you know,
the funny thing is I could alsosee the Nicks being a team that
would play a team like Miami andlose. I don't you know, you
get what I'm saying though, right, Like, the teams are so similar
that I could totally see it happening. But then they could There's only team

(01:36:58):
that could just go on like adry spell often and be like, yeah,
well that's how it just do.Sometimes it reminds me of the late
twenty tens, or in the earlytwenty tens rather when Charles Barkley always used
to say, the Lakers don't wantto see the Mavericks, and the Lakers
never got matched up against the Mavericksuntil twenty eleven and got swept. Personal.

(01:37:19):
Yeah, but that was that wasbad year. It was. It
was definitely bad year. But itwas one of those things that you just
know, like matchups, it's amatchup thing, and I feel like matchup
wise, it might be interesting ifthey played the Bucks or they played the
Celtics. M hmm, it's likethe Bucks of the Celtics. I think

(01:37:40):
I think the Bucks. The Buckswould have a problem. Bucks would have
I think they would. I thinkthe Celtics definitely are more well, more
equipped, but they're just so yeahthey right, the uh, the Bucks
I think are interesting because of DamesTrump. Yeah, I think I think

(01:38:04):
they're I think he's still she likeforty percent All Star Break, so he's
kind of figured it out, butit's like there's still there's still a preposition
there. It's like, you know, Dame, the Dame throws some fingers
up, like like Dame has threeawful games in a row. Right,

(01:38:25):
It's like you can get away withthat. But it's like, look at
look at how they are you guys. Of course, I was just about
to say they're playing literally tonight.Yeah, but he's he's playing good tonight.
I'm trying to finally got three gamestretch where it's like, all right,

(01:38:45):
well you play, you play.You have a two games stretch of
eleven points and then twenty seven pointsto twenty nine points to get twenty nine
shots to get between twenty seven points. And it's like in two games in
the playoffs, that's I guess agood team. That's tough. Yeah,
it's tough to overcome. And likeyou can get a look in the rega
season because like I was gonna say, he's in three bad games where he

(01:39:10):
shot, he played the nets.He's like, he played the nets,
played bad as the Thundeon and playedbad against the Lakers. And it's like
in a three game stretch, ifyou have two bad games, you don't
know, you don't get to havethe nets at your third game, you
know. Yeah. So it's likeif they if they go into the next
series and he had he's just throwingplunkers up, and it's like, all

(01:39:32):
right, well, you know youcan't have you. And you say to
guarantee you if you play good,you're gonna win. So it's like you
have to stay lost by seven,that's not a good game. Actually,
I'm not gonnay to say that's nota good game. Twenty points, man,
just take it back. It's fifteentwenty points in a loss. It's

(01:39:55):
not great. Are you always tryingas a bad I'm not. It's not
wrong though, it's like it's notgreat. It's not I mean, it's
like when you're when you're when you'rewe argued, we you argue name as
the top ten player before not thisseason, but before the feeld. Yeah
I was about saying I definitely didit before this season. But yeah,

(01:40:18):
and it's like, listen, yourtop ten twenty twenty points, twenty five
to seven and thirty six minutes andthe loss. It's not like it's not
a bad game, but it's nota good game. Here's some weird losses.
These guys are having man back toback. Also, Christ wow yet

(01:40:42):
seven he has seven? Yeah?Seven? How many shots? Seven?
Three or twelve? Oh my goshthere as well one of the people.
All right, let's get out ofhere. Man. These guys are the
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