Jaylen Brown signs richest deal in NBA history, Bronny James hospitalized, Saquon Barkely buckles

Brendan Abban is joined by Shaquille Oatmeal to discuss Jaylen Brown's newest contract and receiving the richest deal in NBA history. As well as the sudden hospitalization of Bronny James due to cardiac arrest. Then they discuss Saquon Barkley signing his franchise tag after negotiating some added bonuses into his deal. Thank you for listening and hope you enjoy!

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ranging from Jaylen Brown to talking aboutobviously the fortunate news surrounding Bronnie James

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and so on. And it mightbe a wheeled against some NFL just if
time permits. But coming into today'sepisode, obviously I got my guy here,
snack keel Oh Meal to discuss allthings sports in regardless of specifically NBA
NFL. Brother, how we livingwell? Don't short change me. I'm
also a baseball expert. Are youa baseball expert? Though? Bro?

(01:30):
In the group chat, who areyou putting? Who are you putting baseball
stuff? In there? Only me? Do you? Yeah? Me?
Go check? I don't know.I think Rudy just put something in there
about the Cubs. Yeah. Onetime, I started the conversation three days
ago, me I, Bro,I posted there, I'm the only one.
Look. Apparently, according to that, Rudy texts you're not what's it

(01:53):
called? Yeah? He never posteduntil I did. I said a trend
for that, did you? I'ma trendsetter, Bro when it comes to
sports, are you? Yeah?Man? Bro? I remember remember before
I met you? You you werea casual basketball fan. You didn't know

(02:14):
anything. I'm debating damn right now, and your damn mine? What's this
fall you? You? I ain'tset you down the path, did you?
Yeah? Bro, you don't allBro, you don't remember the days
when he this man listen, listen, listen. Back in the day,
I was the one to tell himthis man, Carmelo ain't no score like

(02:36):
I mean, Kevin Durant, thebear scorting in Carmelo. This man said,
Oh, Carmelo got the post game, Carmello got this damn the other
he got the old back busing mefor a shot. Oh, I'm definitely
not. I remember these conversations.Bro, you are confusing me for a
shot. I listened. We didn'tknow, but you remember college yet.
You were not even in college yet, so you ain't even know we're shot

(02:57):
yet. So I know more factNo, because any conversation that I've had
about me, I would acknowledge metal. I mean, that's that is a
conversation about talking about the overall scoringscoring abilions they have Yester better better score.
You are so set, you black. You blinked out the knowledge you
used to have, You used tothe garbage you used to bout. That's

(03:20):
it nonsense. This is so bad. You're well, you're listen. You
can think me anytime you want to. That's fine, nobody talk. You're
back and realize one day it's gonnahit you all the garbage takes you used
to. You used to just spitman, and you're gonna be like,
damn, I really I really changedmy thinking thanks to this man. Sort
of like your garbage take when youtold me the thunder were gonna win the

(03:43):
title in two thousand and fifteen,they went, they were in the Western
put they were off. They winthe title? Three? Shut up?
Did they win the title? Didthey win the title? Three? Did
they win the title? It's notthey win the title? They it's not
about did they win it's not thetitle. Did they win the title?

(04:03):
Did they win the title? Theywin the NBA Championship? Question, why
can't you if it's not a garbagetake, why can't you just answer my
question? Why did they win theNBA Championship? There is a timeline they
won the NBA. Take behind,Okay, we don't live in that for

(04:27):
some reason, if it isn't agarbage take, But yet you can't confirm
to me if they won the NBAchampionship to me for something that is that
is by admission admitting that for somethingyou just feel as though admitting that they
didn't win the technology that is agarbage take. Sounds like, but they
didn't. Yeah, look at thehe had to go run to the Gold

(04:49):
Day Warriors. Well, all Ihear is that it sounds like a lot
of garbage was on that take.Like I said, there's a timeline somewhere
that they want a championship. I'mright, no matter whatever, man,
Okay, let's get into talking aboutthe freaking NBA, dude. The biggest,
the biggest news we have in NBAcircles being Jalen Brown's most recent contract,

(05:10):
a deal which it becomes he getsnow what is the richest deal in
NBA history, which is a fiveyear Supermax extension worth up to three hundred
and three point seven million dollars.And with that deal, obviously, I
think this is going to be thebenchmark for at least Supermax extensions as it
is right now, exceeds Yokich's twohundred and seventy six million extension that he's

(05:34):
signed with the Denver Nuggets, andan increase based on the rise in the
salary cap and league revenue for JalenBrown. So when we look at the
resume for Jalen Brown, this dealis essentially now going to set it to
where he's going to be a Celtictool twenty twenty eight twenty twenty nine NBA
season. And it's funny. Whatdo you say, it'd be a thirty

(05:56):
one thirty two eight year yep.And it's funny because of the fact that
him earning second team All NBA lastseason pretty much got him the ability to
be viable for the Supermax and thena year from now, his running mate
and Jayson Tatum is going to beeligible for the Supermax extension as well.
So it's gonna be funny to seehow he's then essentially what we would surmise

(06:19):
is going to be he's gonna thensign the richest deal in NBA history at
that point in time when he getshis Supermax extension. But I think it's
just interesting because when you look atthis, Jalen Brown is now slated to
make fifty two point three million whenthe contract kicks in in twenty twenty four,
twenty twenty five, sixty nine pointeight million in twenty twenty eight,

(06:39):
twenty twenty nine, the final yearof the contract, and he's not he
does not eligible for no trade clausebecause he didn't sign an extension. But
when you look at the resume ofJaylen Brown, they've made the playoffs,
the Celtics being every single year thathe's been there. In his seven seasons,
he's gone to the ABA Finals onetime, which was a last season

(07:00):
two years ago rather but then aswell as making three Eastern Conference appearances as
well, So we look at itwhat it was the last four years,
they've really much been a lot forthese Common Finals. Yep. So when
you when you look at this team, you essentially sit back and you say,
okay, yes they had when Ithink it was one of the reasons

(07:24):
why I always felt as though thethe narrative of them breaking up these two
with that level of success was wasunfounded and I didn't really feel like there
was any basis to it. Butwhen you see that he's getting this type
of pay day, I think itdoes raise eyebrows because when you hear somebody
like, oh, NICOLEA. Yokisgets the richest deal in NBA history,

(07:46):
be like, okay, I getthat right, Because Yokis is the cornerstone,
and based on his talent and hisachievements and his accomplishments, Yoki's two
time MVP, multiple first Team MBA, And when you're sitting there considering that,
you're like, okay, him gettingthat type of money is warranted.
But then you look at what JalenBrown has done. Not that the accomplishments

(08:09):
Dalen Brown has had are minimized byany sort, but Jalen Brown isn't even
the best player on his own team. Yeah, And so by a natural,
by natural measure, there's a lotof consternation when it comes to his
deal and a lot of people evaluatingthis deal because many feel as though,
when it comes to the big moments, Jalen Brown just isn't that dude.

(08:33):
When if you want to pick oneor the two is whether it's him and
Jason Tatum, everybody's gonna go JaysonTatum most of the time. And it
doesn't really bring merit when when JalenBrown doesn't really have any hardware on his
shelf to really point to or tolook at, or to say that hey,
you're you're the best forward or you'reI'm taking you over majority of the

(08:54):
four. I mean, while that'sstill true, but most of the star
forwards. Yeah, I put togetherlike I was looking like because I was
looking at like, oh, youknow what they're gonna do where they're gonna
trade him. It's like, brother, there really ain't no body you're trading
for Jaylen Brown. Yeah, That'swhy I had to rephrase what I was
saying, because he's better than mostfours in the league, but this type

(09:16):
of money is like, you're thebest forward in the league. And I
think that's the problem. I thinkthe criticism that people have of this deal
is that, damn Jaylen Brown,weren't I mean, granted, it seems
like that's just the case when itcomes to these supermax contracts. And to
me, I even questioned the viabilityof supermax is at this point because I
don't see a supermax situation where it'sreally worked out outside of Yokich and this

(09:43):
self, this thing could be thecould be the one, depending on how
Again, it depends on if jand Jason continue to improve. But the
problem is, now, what handicapsyou in some regard, right, because
I mean granted, just because ofthe new the new CBA rule is you'd
want to think a team want tominimize their spending to some degree, and

(10:05):
this is just like blowing the doorsoff of that. Essentially. What I
but what this gives me the beliefis that they are banking like you kind
of like you just said, theyare banking on these two improving so much
that whatever else is on the roster, they'll just figure it out because you're
essentially and the amount of capital investedin those two positions is going to be

(10:26):
enormous. Yeah. I think thething is they look at it like,
Okay, TV deal comes in twentytwenty five, CAP's still going to be
rhyme uh and then and then theother thing is like and that's why I
kind of a louse, you like, what do they do? What do
you? What do you? Whatdo you do? What's the alternative that
I wasn't paying them? But thismuch you see Listen, we see this

(10:52):
every time you like, it doesn'tmatter. Michael Porter Julie got a MAX
contract. Michael Porter Junior was maybethe third, maybe fourth best player in
the finals. Like you have,like, it's just how the NBA work.
You have to pay your like youpay you have to take these guys
thrown track. I think the problemis when you go into Supermax territory and

(11:15):
then you're it's like the site thething where the Wizards were hamstrung with Bradley
Bale Supermax with a no trade causeon it. No, they hung themselves
by giving Bradley Bill a Supermax ballhaving nothing around him already. And Bradley
Bill, Bradley Bille is not likeyou. If you had a guy already,

(11:37):
it makes sense to give Bradley Billa Superman. They didn't have a
guy, They had nothing on therock there, and they gave Bradley Bill
Superman. And this is a okay. So here's what So I'm referencing some
of Bobby Marx's points here. SoJalen Brown's obviously ineligible to be traded for
a year. Yeah, and thenthis is what it says. He says

(12:01):
the Celtics could be on the hook. Here's what he says. Here's what
Boston could be on the hook forif the salary cap jumps ten percent over
the next two seasons. Jalen Brownthree hundred and four million dollars starts twenty
four twenty five. Jason Tatum threehundred and thirty eight million dollars starts in
twenty five twenty six. I meanthat's his bonker to me because the amount.

(12:24):
If this team was already struggling towin under the current salary cap and
the current and the rather the previousCBA, then how I'm just baffled.
I think they're struggling to win.Yeah, I mean I don't know what,
So what is the what is theplay here if you're if so much

(12:46):
of your salaries going to your becauseI do understand that you have to pay
the guys. I just don't knowif I'm I feel like there's a tier
too, because kind of like,for example, the Lakers could have overpaid
for D'Angelo Russell this offseason and andthey I think they paid him exactly what

(13:07):
he was worth. To be honest, I think they come away with what
they paid Jane's with us. Ifeel like many many of the Lakers fans
came away from that feeling like,Okay, they paid him the right amount,
Like he got paid the exact amountfor what is what you would expect
from a player of that caliber.Jalon Brown's contract. I mean this is
you cannot compare a second option toa fourth option but the problem is you're

(13:33):
the pay you're doing. This isn'teven like right now we're comparing the pay
of a first generational type option toa second option. That is, if
Jalen Brown hit the market, JalonBrown's getting a Max. Don drop.
I'm not downing he's getting a mask, but a super max that's the it.

(13:56):
See, but didn't. It's likeJalen is not is to accepting anything
but let a supermax because he knowsthat's what he's in the game. But
he wasn't get that on the openmarket. He yeah, because he's only
King. Can only get that withthe Celtics. Yeah, so even if
you're on the open market, you'renot you. I mean, you can
still make more money with the Celtics, but I wouldn't go to supermax.
Here, I'm at supermaxing Jaylen Brown, Brendan if he okay, if you

(14:20):
come, if you're the Celtics,right, you come and say we're not
giving you the supermach. Jaylen Brownis going going to hit free agency.
You're just you're just putting that bloodout there for no reason. There's no
way Jaylen Brown signs anything other thana SuperMac than Boston. I mean,
I guess, I mean, whatdo you think about the deal? Do
you think this is good for them? I don't. It's fine, Okay.

(14:45):
It goes back to the point,what do you do? Wait,
wait, you all right? BecauseI wrote something up right, I was
like, this is all right,So Jaylen Brownson's back next year, you're
you're the ESPN has them, hasthe third best team in the league.
And so goes back to the pointwhere your options, you trade them,
you're signed, and trade them forfor a star who's available. Dame already

(15:05):
said he's not playing in Boston.James Harden's worse. Radley Bill when he's
on the market was worse. Likeso it was like the only the person
that was available was Kyrie and comeon now, let's be you know.
And then it's like the other thingis it's like, okay, well,
trading for you know, a package, and it's like then it goes back
to the question do you think JasonTatum is good enough to carry a group

(15:28):
of role players plus poor zingis tothe championship? And it's like, look
at the players that have done that, like in this current generation, right,
It's like you have and Kawhi.Those are only two that you can
be like. Okay, Yokis didn'thave an All Star despite the fact Murray
played like an All Star in theplayoffs, and Kawhi, I don't think
had an All Star when he whenhe led the Raptors to the finals.

(15:50):
It's like, so it's like,I do you think Jason hitting that level
of players. This is what ZachLowe had said about it. He said,
I've had a couple of people infront officers tell me something along the
lines of, are the Celtics reallygonna pay their third or fourth or fifth
best player all this money? Whoever? That they need to be fired.

(16:11):
Jalen Brown has never been their thirdor fourth option. I agree. I
don't think that is even that thesclash them up, slash across the end
broke. Ain't no way you walkfront office executive and you said that that's
so funny. Ain't no way you'relooking at this roster and saying four Zingis
is a second option. Yeah,there's no shot. Jalen Brown is definitely

(16:33):
the second best player on this team. I just don't know if I go
it's tough, man, you don'thave a choice that that's the only thing.
It's like, you really don't haveit. It's like we've seen contract
negotiating them like that before. It'slike the guys like, I want to
max contract you. I mean,like you kind of back against the wall.
You don't have any leverage. Theydo have leverage though, I mean
they're better than most of the teamsin the NBA right now. They were

(16:55):
just in the Eastern Conference finals.Like, this is Jalen round time to
get his matt contract. If youthink he's not bringing he is going where
like pretty much where he can go. First of all, he's expressed interest
to being a number one option already, so he's already put that idea out
there that he would go to bea number one option somewhere. And then
two again, you all, youhave this core roster. You have Porzingis

(17:19):
under contract for two years from now. You have Robert Williams under contract to
two more years. You have Ithink our Horford is on his last year.
You have you have a window rightnow to win. It is no
guarantee you're going to be back atthis point in time. I don't disagree

(17:40):
with the fact that, I mean, the windows aren't guaranteed. I don't
disagree with that fact. I justit's just mind boggling to me just how
much money they're going to be spendingin between their two best players. I
mean, I think they're the onlyteam that's doing that right now, right
now. Yeah, NBA listen,But you gotta think that's the only reason
why that happen, just because ofthe cast phase. It's like you think

(18:00):
Lebron and Ad wouldn't begin this kindof money. Lebron hasn't reached Supermac's territory.
What talking, we're talking like oneof the time. But I'm saying,
like everyone, it's always like thatone teams. I guess that's my
team because if you think about it, Lebron isn't even one of the last
time of Lebron is the highest paidplayer in the league. Never been highest

(18:23):
exactly, But that wasn't. Butthat's not that's not a matter of like
skill or anything like that. It'sjust based on when you signed your contract.
Mike Conley saved the biggest contract inthe NBA at one point in time.
It's like it just matters when silBuilders is the hundred million dollars contract.
No, but the problem is Iguess the problem is that Mike Conley

(18:44):
contract was viewed as a bad contractthough, like that wasn't a contract that
people years later but like that wasgood. You had to pay them that
they didn't though they ended up trainingthem, yeah, because after they after
the team fell apart, Yeah,they started training them. But at that
point in time, but Mike Conleywas like Mike Tongue was like pretty much
the engine of your team. Likeyou can't you didn't have a point guard

(19:06):
to replace Mike Conley. Didn't Jefft get a contract like this too or
something. He got a massive contractand then fell off immediately. But no,
no, no, no. Butit's like like shi Jojes is gonna
get four hundred million dollars if shijojris the best player in the league.

(19:30):
No no, but but he's yournumber one option that I get it more.
Also, at some point you're gonnahave to pay Chet two. Yeah,
but Chet gotta show me something.I mean, yeah, we gotta
have that conversation later. He gottashow me what I'm saying. Assuming going
forward, you're one in your twooptions are going to get this kind of

(19:53):
money. No, but but ifyou if you want to pay your one,
that's fine. You're unless you're two, is like, I mean we're
talking. I don't know who Iwould compare it to. I mean,
unless you're two, with Shaq andKobe in it or something. I don't
know. Do you think Anthony Daviswouldn't get a Supermatch? No, you're

(20:19):
absolutely crazy. He was one hundredpercent of Superma. No, I don't
He's a hundred with one hundred percentof Supermans if he wants to be in
it. I mean, if youwant, if he I don't know you
are. You are underestimating how wouldyou I would like if you don't have
if you unless you have somebody toreplace them, especially especially when he's saying,

(20:41):
oh no, okay, okay,hold on un okay, hold on,
okay, we're I think we're missingwe're mixing wires here. I don't
doubt that the Lakers would want toare gonna give Anthony Davis like a Supermax.
But what I'm saying is, butit's also because of the contention that
Lebron doesn't have one. That's whatyou really think they would like. I'm
saying, if if if they weregonna were both of them, if they
were gonna give Lebron a Supermax.I don't think Anthony Davis would get one.

(21:04):
Ain't no way, I don't ain'tno way. No, I'm I'm
dead serious. Anthony Davis would geta Superman on every one of these teams.
What teams have two Supermax players?That you have multiple Max contract guys,
but what teams have two Supermax guys? Hold on, I'm trying to
feed. That's what I'm saying,Like there's nothing. The closest team would

(21:26):
be the Nuggets. The closest teamwould be the Nuggets with Jamal Murray's contract,
and they don't have two Supermans.They don't have a Supermax guy.
They don't have a guy who's closeto Like when Jared when when Jamal Murray
signed his contract, he was notnear a Supermax guy. When when Michael
Portier signed his contract, he wasnot near a Supermax guy. These guys
weren't even all in the a whenthey signed their contract. No, but

(21:48):
what I'm saying is like having amass contract with a super Because I think
Yoki's extension technically is in Supermax territories. It not two hundred and thirty seven,
two hundred and thirty seven million extentsand two hundred seventy six million apologies,
two hundred seventy six millions. SoI think that would be in Supermax
territory. But I guess that mattersdepending on the years. I don't have

(22:11):
the years, but to have multipleMy problem is having two Supermax guys,
Like that's just especially if they're notlike Shock and Kobe with the dominance again.
But it's just like it goes backto the point, what do you
do? Jalen Brown is not takinganything. Listen to SuperMac. You can't

(22:33):
let the thing. You have nothing. I don't know, man. So
it's like, hey, I listen, you have two guys. They're both
in there. They're mid twenties.It's like, okay, listen, that's
the best case for it. Youhave two guys in your twenties. We
have a team that is good fortwo years before we have to start like

(22:56):
paying other people and looking for otherpeople. Right, So let's we take
these two years and we said wego, let's do it. Let's get
us our championship right now. Andthen two years you look at the landscape,
you say, what's the cap playslooking like, what can we do?
The reson one thing. One thingBoston has been able to do over
and over again is retool. Lookthis, Let me give you this list

(23:18):
real quick. Top ten most highestplayed players in the league right now.
Okay, Jaylen Brown top of thetop of the list, three hundred and
three million dollar contract value five years, Yokis five years, two hundred and
seventy six mil, Bradley Beal twohundred and fifty one mile five years,
Devin Booker two hundred and thirty fourmil four years, kar Anthony Town's two
hundred and thirty four mil four years, Yannis two hundred and twenty eight mil

(23:41):
five years, Stephen Curry two hundredand fifteen million four years, Luca Donche's
two hundred and fifteen million five years, Joel Ebid two hundred thirteen million four
years, Anthony Edwards two hundred andfive million five years, LaMelo Ball two
hundred and five million five years.Dude. The next closest player that's on

(24:03):
the same team as as one ofthe players in the top ten is Kevin
Durant at twenty at one hundred andninety four million for four years. Why
should sorry sorry that that's actually wrong. The two players that are on the
same team are Bradley Bill and DevinBooker, and they're both in the top
ten. Yeah, they're both inthe top ten. What's actually what's their

(24:26):
numbers? What like number number BradleyBill is what three? Bradley Bill's three,
Devin Bookers four, bro And yougotta again, you have to remember
he's signing the first deal. It'slike by the time in two years,
he's not gonna be number one.Devin Bookers is an extension as well.

(24:48):
His doesn't go into effect until twentytwenty four. Twenty five bills is already
in effect. Yeah, Bill istwo years in this durance is in effect
as well, and but Durrants attwenty bills ends it. So I mean
the Suns have like a two yearwindow here with Bill and yeah, yeah,

(25:14):
with Booker, Bill and Durant,So they're on a two year window.
They don't forget they also have eightas well. They do have a
But And isn't anywhere near the top. He's paid, He's play pretty hath
to itself. He's paid well.But I guess the part of my part
of my I guess my consternation isthat and I guess you can make the

(25:37):
case that about however one might feelabout I think the problem, the problem
with the contracts here with the Sunsis that the Sun those contracts weren't given
to all these players as Suns players. The Suns went out and got those
players. It's not like they signedlike Bradley Bill got that contract from the
Wizards. Yeah, it'd be differentthan Bradley Bill is playing for the Suns.

(25:57):
And then this was the core.And then Bradley Beale was like,
because naturally these guys do take lessto stay playing on winning teams. Yeah,
but that just wasn't the case inthe Jail and Brown scenario. No,
it's nuts. That's just I don'tknow. I'll get it. Wait,

(26:19):
oh four one four old. Yeah, it's just like I listen,
I can't. I don't fault jailand Brown for getting his money. By
the way, I don't think that. That's not what I'm saying at all.
Never never get your bad bro,Yeah, always get your back.
You never know what's gonna happen.I just I just have trepidation about having
two Supermax guys on the same teamand you're telling me they're not like they're

(26:41):
not running Shack and Kobe level dominanceon the league. I get it.
I mean like it's just whenever youwhenever you did it, whenever the guy
like this signed a big contract,it's just like, what do you do.
It's like it's like again your teamsin the ark spot, It's like,
again, Jalen is better than themost players in the league, but
he's not the guy. So it'slike you can't you like, you can't

(27:04):
judge, Like it's hard to justify, like, oh man, he's now
gonna be neat year, he's gonnabe number one. But it's like at
the same time, we can't losehim because then we were probably they're probably
like a fourth or fifties at thatpoint. Yeah, going to Thomas Flds
with that, with that team withouthim, I'm like, I don't see

(27:25):
it, No, I feel that. So again it's just like you know,
like I said that, the onething why Boston is they have they
have a strong unit right now.It's like, so go hard for two
three years and let's the chips fallwhere they may. Who knows what the
cap again, who knows what thecap? The cap situations. ZM was
like, I was looking at bro. In twenty fourteen, the salary cap

(27:48):
was sixty three million dollars. Jeez, it's gonna make sixty nine million bollets
then if it's contracts, I sawthat. Apparently Jalen Brown is going to
be making more money at some point. I think either next season or it's
like either in two years or nextseason than the entire two thousand and eight
Celtics starting lineup combined. Yeah,it's like again, it's like, you

(28:12):
know, you pay it the waythe cat has just been going up.
You pay this now and who knowswhat it's him look like into who knows
this him looks like in three years? Yeah, So it's like I don't
know, it's just you know,I was looking this up and never remind
you. You remember you remember thatone year where the cat blew up and
uh and teams ran out to signlike these average players the max contract.

(28:37):
Yeah, and you got you guys. Bout you guys signed freaking Timothy mos
Goof and lou all Day Bro.Dang yeah joking, Noah got that fat
contrack, Bismac Beyondo, got afatchn track. God, you know what
I was like, Man, I'mchanged, Bro. The people that year,
that bubble right there, that ofthose contract Oh my gosh, those

(29:02):
role players were eating, bro.They were living like, man, if
you're roll, if you were anysemi average big man at that point,
they wanted to throw back the brainstruck up, Bro, I ain't going
nowhere on the average eight points andeight rebounds a game. You paying me
a max contract? Bro, Ithink I saw a stat like it was
only about a year or two agothat the Lakers just finally stopped paying lu

(29:26):
All. Dang yeah, Bro,it was still Batman was having the cone
his life making money. I haven'tplayed in the league in like seven years.
It's nuts, isn't That? Wasn'tthere a scenario like that with Darren
Williams, Like Darren Williams was gettinglike nine hundred thousand or something a year
from the Nets because they stended hiscontracts super long when they got him.

(29:48):
Yep, Bro, that's so that'sa life right there. That is the
life. People can't. People gottastop lying, man, I don't care.
Look, you can criticize a guy. I mean obviously you probably just
wanted to keep playing in the nyou ain't make bank. But shoot,
look you get cut, you don'tgotta show up. You don't gotta sho
up the camp, the NBA pretomuch telling you you're washed because nobody's signing

(30:10):
you. So you know you're done. But at least you still got the
check coming in from that team.Check coming in every year for a milk
what. Oh good man, that'snuts. That is nuts. Listen.
If you told me I ain't gottaput on a basketball jer I'm still making
and I'll make having milk. Comeon, Yeah, you got a bit

(30:37):
for I don't have any attendance ornothing like that. I just I just
show up on my own time,bro, exactly like listening. Cut me,
cut me right now, please,Bro, that's hilarious. Caught me.
Oh gosh, all right, let'slet's go ahead and switch some gears
here and talk about Bronnie James honestly. So it's unfortunate. I saw this

(31:02):
news man. I saw it yesterdayand it literally made my chest get tight,
and I just was upset. AndI hope that that doesn't come off
as insensitive. But I like ayoung guy, yeah there, yeah,
you know what I mean. It'sone of those things that whenever you see

(31:26):
a young person possibly face like alife threatening situation or condition. You're just
like, oh my gosh, likeyou can't believe it. When I initially
read it, I was like no, and I was, oh my gosh,
I was panicked. And when theysaid that he was stable, let
me, I guess, let meread the news for people. So Brownie
James, during practice with the USat USC suffered cardiac arrest and collapsed to

(31:52):
the ground, and the USC medicalstaff was able to treat Brownie and take
him to the hospital in which heis now stable and no longer than the
ICU you and the James family hasalready asked for people to you know,
respect the privacy and they're going tokeep updating the media or whatever new information
comes out, and that they dothink the USC medical and athletics staff for

(32:13):
their incredible work and dedication to thesafety of the athletes. And I think
that it's it's one of those situationsthat I think I saw the stat I
can't remember where I'm trying to rememberit from, but that cardiac arrest has
been for like the last few decades, has been the leading cause of death
for you know, athletes, foryoung athletes, and it's a situation that

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when you see it, you're justlike, man. And for those who
don't know, cardiac arrest happens whenthe heart suddenly, when it's suddenly unexpectedly
stops beating and blood flow to thebrain and other bottle organs stop and automated
external DeBary defibrulators and CPR are mostoften used to treat somebody immediately who's undergone

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undergone cardiac or rest and it saysthat he According to the National Institute of
Health, cardiac rest caused up tofour hundred and fifty thousands up to four
hundred and fifty thousand deaths a yearin the US. It's different from a
heart attack, which occurs because ofan artery blockers, but the heart that
that heart generally keeps beating. Ah. Man, Like, it's just when

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you when you hear something like that, you just it makes you just feel
uncomfortable, you know what I mean, because you just realize this is a
like these athletes are top flight athletes. And I saw I saw a tweet
from a cardiologist saying that these typeof things sometimes can be a condition and
you don't really know it's a conditionuntil it happens. And it's like,

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dude, what Yeah, there wasa player, Um, that's the bird
he Uh, he had a heartissue and they always found out because the
physical Like that's just so crazy tome. Yeah, and like when I
when I mean physical, I meanthe physical like he was multiple well years
in the league. Physical Like ifthe trade from ind to Indy to the

(34:06):
cash, definitely they found out aboutit. Yeah, And so it's like,
I mean, yeah, it's oneof those things. I think Papino
Mowbli has the same thing. Hehad a hard issue and they found out
why he's in the league. It'sjust so nuts to me. I mean,
this is why they always say youhave to do regular doctors checkups.
And that's not to say that Browniewasn't doing that. I mean, this
seems to be a freak accident ofsomething that just happened out of nowhere.

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And it even happened to another USCplayer prior to Bronnie. I think it
was center. That's the crazy thing. It happened quite to the same within
a year. Yeah, and literallyit happened to their center. Vincent.
I apologize if I messed up hisname here. Vincent Wochoochukuo Chuku one of

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the top and He was one ofthe top incoming freshmen in college basketball last
season, and he suffered cardiac arreston July first, twenty twenty two and
was hospitalized for a few days.Then he returned to play for USC in
January, appearing for fourteen games.And so it's not like this is one
of those things that happens and thenyou're just automatically done being able to play
the sport. But you know,you have to go through a lot of

(35:14):
preventative measures to make sure this typeof thing doesn't happen again, whether it
be medicine, whether you know,just preventative stuff. But it's nuts,
man, I just don't, nah, I don't. And then you see
DeMar Hamlin give his you know,he shot them a nice message and talking
about he said prayers up to theJames Chamiley and Brownie hoping that everybody's fine
and well. And we all knowthat DeMar Hamlin underwent cardiac arrest during an

(35:37):
NFL game last year. And Idon't know, man, it's just it's
just nuts. Seems to be anuptick in cardiac arrest issues and young athletes
treats away all right, but thefact that this has been an issue with
them for what for two decades somewould say two years. Someone tries it

(35:59):
to you. Hey, brother,I'm gonna be real. I am shocked
that John stopping they made made amade a statement. I really, yeah,
I was. I was shocked.He hadn't said anything. Oh man,
I'm it was funny. Well itwasn't funny, but it was.
I was under one of the tweetsabout it. I think it was under

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the ESPN post and I saw someoneit was like one of the most like
to tweets under there. They're like, man, I tweet about a young
man that that undergoes cardiac arrest andis facing a life threatening thing. And
I'm under here hearing about all thesedumb, dumb ass anti backs. It's
like, yo, oh you sawyou see Elon must tweeted about it,
right, did he? Yeah?Oh my gosh, what did Yon Must

(36:42):
say? He implied it. Youknow, it might be something else that's
nuts. That's nuts. I like, but I wouldn't say this because because
before you know anything, um,we'll see doctor Rnandez, one of the

(37:06):
one of the doctors that did Ronniecollapse because of the calbeing vaccine. Vaccine.
No, we do not see anincrease in sudden cardiac death. There's
no reputable articles for studies that havecorrelated COVID nineteen vaccinations increased incidents of sudden
cardiac death. So anybody who's liketrying to like anytime something happened, it's

(37:30):
like they are rushing there. Yeah. The first people in the in the
comments section ray ray to let youknow with the vaccine that cardiac cardiac arrest
never happened until until twenty twenty.Bro. It is. It is one
of those things that I just sitback and I'm like, my goodness,

(37:50):
man, people gotta like every everysingle thing is like a politicized thing.
It's just it's the funniest I justI'm almost amazed at times times how it
doesn't even matter the individual. It'slike, hey, man, we can
take a line. If we canpick a line here and draw that line
and cross it somehow. Hey,we're gonna do it, bro. We're
are gonna jump through every hoop loopunder each each uh what's it called a

(38:16):
limbo stick to find a way toput these two things together we made.
We don't know nothing about this man, but we're gonna assume that as they
know we had he even got thevaccine, like that's there. Yeah,
I mean if Braun did say theygot they got they got the vaccine,
right, yeah, yeah he did. You know, to remember he was

(38:38):
hesitant about getting it at first.Yeah, oh yeah, I do remember
that. Yeah, but then hedid. He didn't say that his family
got the vaccine. I think hehad to get the vaccine to play.
Yeah, I think an NBA youdid after. I mean, I think
the only person I wasn't was Kyrie. That's not that's not true. Well,
actually know you didn't depending on yourstate. Yeah, we didn't get

(38:59):
it. But I think I thinkToronto you couldn't play in Toronto if he
didn't have it. Yeah, that'sthat's right. Can I remember I think
Johnathan Isaac had to sit out,Jonathan Isaac had to sit out Sidebol had
to sit out Donald Jonathan Isaac andwho else is it? Kyrie obviously sat
out man that might have been did? I think those are those are the
big three that I can remember whowere like nah, yeah, I can't.

(39:22):
I can't remember anybody else, butit is just nuts. I do
hope that Bronnie is able to keepplaying. Yeah, yeah, I hope
it's nothing. It's just like afree gay and nothing, nothing serious or
like, you know, something that'smanageable. It's not like, oh,
you can't ever play again. Kindof this kind of situation because out of
ESPN's Big Board, Bronnie was thetwentieth ranked player in the top one hundred

(39:45):
rankings and he's a six rated pointguard in the class of twenty twenty three.
I think that I think that wasa grain assault. Why yeah,
listen, man, that last nameleaves something, it means something. But
then I don't I will say,I don't remember where Zaire Wade was ranked,

(40:05):
but Brownie is definitely better than thathere exactly. That's what I'm saying.
Zire didn't have any like this typeof traction going for Zaire, and
I mean Zire had the Wade namebehind him. So that's where I'm like,
I feel like, at some point, yes, I do, I
do believe that having that last nameand having that be your father helps.
But at the end of the daycomes down can you ball or not?

(40:27):
I mean yeah, I mean AustinRivers, listen, Austin Rivers post boy.
Austin Rivers got got picked top tenand he ain't no way, shape
or form was the top ten pick. It's funny though, because I think
Austin Rivers a lot that that collegewhat was his shot he hit for Duke,
Yeah, that game winner. I'mAustin Rivers had a lot of college

(40:49):
moments that did him real good.And then oh yeah, no wrong man.
Yeah you listen Austin Rivers, Like, first of all, you're the
high school mistakes made him to keepfar. Then he had he had some
moments that dude. But it waslike watching him at Duke, it was
like that the athlete you know whenhigh school, high school misted. Bro,
you look like the most athletic guyin the world for real. And

(41:13):
then when what he got to Duke, he was like, Okay, his
athletics isn't that you know, he'snot a playmaker like that. He's not
he doesn't have the athleticis to getby and create the own shot like that.
It was kind of like, asthere was a final turned out,
turned out ten plus your career,yeah, you know, so shout out
to him. But just at thattime when he got picked ten, it
was like, oh boy, that'sdefinitely some uh, that's definitely some River

(41:37):
magic working right there? Did heget picked? Hold on a second,
didn't he get picked by Doc?Actually no, he didn't know. He
didn't know. He didn't know.He got picked by the Pelicans. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah, then I wasnot Yeah, he got traded.
He got traded. It very shortlyafterwards, yep. And some people felt
like that was like him extending thelifeline. I mean, could be no,

(42:00):
man, listen, who knows.I mean he kept playing after that,
he did, it's all. Imean, he bounced around after that.
Hey, if you if you're ableto go from team to team in
the NBA, you're a NBA calibertalent. Some somebody's willing to pay you.
I mean, you're not wrong.He went to Washington, the Houston
for two years, and they wentin New York. Then he went to
Denver for two years, and thenhe went to Minnesota. I'm like,

(42:21):
man, Isnesota? What's it?But turn out your career? Shout out
to him. Man, Okay,this talk about because we've been bouncing around
since we've been talking about contracts today, my guy, say Quon Barkley,
say Quan after talking about how hewanted the commitment from the Giants, he

(42:42):
wanted the Giants to They rewarded himfor his production, his commitment to the
team that he was He wasn't sureif he's gonna be able to sit out
and make that long wait, thatlong haul and make the Giants really feel
the burns of their sins. Theyrewarded them. They get look right,
three years, four years. Theygave him a one year deal. Oh

(43:07):
oh, se Quon Barkley signed acontract. Oh he was originally franchise tagged.
Yeah, what he was originally right? Oh no, I mean he
got he got benefits. He gotsome benefits, you know, not nothing
long term, but he got benefits. Yeah, it got sixteen seventeen.

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So this let me, let mejust give the contrast here. So what
se Quon, what the Giants initiallywant to say Quan to play on was
a deal which would have led tohim getting to ten point one million dollars
in earnings with no signing bonus andzero dollars in incentives, in which he
could have could have led him skippingcamp right on the on a franchise tag.
Okay, but se Quon negotiated andfought for and got out of the

(43:54):
Giants and agreed to sign was aten point one million dollars. You know,
upfront money is still the same guaranteedmoney, A two million dollars signing
bonus, he didn't have that before. And nine hundred and nine K and
incentives, that's what's an odd numberit is. And so there's ten point

(44:19):
one right, yes, okay,okay make and so the max he can
make in the season outside of thesigning bonus is eleven million. Oh is
this a w R an l Wfor the Giants? I don't know,

(44:42):
man Ung. That's a weird bro. I'm black into the conclusion, run
back to weird. If you couldpay ten million dollars, run back,
you know, I'm a cop asa double. And the thing is he
didn't even get a no franchise tagcloth so they can just franchise tag him
again next year. Yeah. Again, I don't know, man Like,
I guess if he had gotten like, I don't know, maybe a two

(45:05):
year it'd be like a real dub, I mean a mini dub. You
got you, You've gotta make upto eleven mill next year? You got
two million dollars signing bonus. Youlook at the look at the running back?
Who got who? I think itwas like running back who made twelve
million dollars last year, Like halfthem got cut this all season. It's
like, man, listen, youcan get if you get in double figures.

(45:28):
You know what. I just countthat as stuff. Man. I
think at this point, as awriter, it seems like the viability of
the running back position has just beenI recorded a short or TikTok rather about
this last week, and I justtalked about how I feel as though the
running back position is now outside ofprobably the fullback, the least valuable position

(45:51):
on the offense. Yeah, andI mean teams are shown that I looked
at. I literally went and pulledup all the pay for every position on
offense. Running basket paid the leastoutside. Again, just go back to
the point, it's just you canyou can just swap him out for the
Giant. Look at the Giant owneror GM was like, listen, you

(46:12):
dropped the guy late, plug himin, get two years out of him,
get a new one. I don'tremember if it was their GM that
said it, but I remember itwas something from the Giants, I remember
that much. But it does.I think this deal does hurt the running
back market as a whole because whenyou're willing to come across that picket line
and you're willing to just say,I mean, it's hard for one running

(46:34):
back to change the dichotomy of howthe whole entire league views running backs.
But that man mad right now?Oh yeah, he's hot, right,
like Josh Jacobs is on the manlike damn he only signed for ten mill.
Yeah. Um, that's tough.I looked up looking up some stuff

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and it was like, so Ihave a list of issues, right,
and the issue is all right.So they apportan on top of being the
lowest pace. You don't remember,they had the shortest flight's career span.
They said the average running back istwo years two and a half years.
And then they went even deeper andthey set between two thousand and ten and
two thousand nineteen one point eight.Whoa. And then look at the look

(47:25):
at the recent recent stars that gotcontracts. Right, obviously the big name
that everybody throes around in the beaubecause he got six mil nine years,
Clay after four years, girly,you know, four years, fifty seven
mil cut after a year and ahalf. Christian McCaffrey four sixty four,
traded two years into a contract.Alvin Famara five or seven for seventy five

(47:51):
did make top one hundred players thisyear. Leveon Bell four years, fifty
two mil play after a season.David Johnson three years forty never hit nine
forty. Ever, the only hita thousand one time in his career,
got got to nine forty and thennever touched even seven hundred again. Sez.

(48:13):
It's like, so you look atthese guys and you say, we've
paid out money to these guys andthey never land and it never worked out
for us. Yeah, And it'slike the ones that do work out,
Derrick Henry, I mean what Imean, no offense, but like,
like, have they done anything?I mean I don't think, well,

(48:37):
one AFC Championship appearance in how manyyears? I don't know how long Derrick
ran has been there. I actuallylooked the mother after guy No been it's
been laced on the contract with twoor three years ago. Yeah, I
mean Derrick Kenny. I think no. I think the points the point is
founded because I think what it eventuallycomes down to is what is the running

(49:00):
back? What is the actual evaluationof the impact the running back has on
winning versus just being a running option. Because Derrick Henry and his since being
there since twenty sixteen, has beenthere for seven years. Denreck Henry signed
this contract his newest contract he gotand it started in twenty twenty. Since

(49:23):
Derrick Henry signed his contract in twentytwenty, the Tampa or sorry it's Tampa
the tight ends rather man. Okay, okay, So here's there. Here's
how their franchise has performed. Ohsince he signed the contract. So it's

(49:46):
not been like it's they haven't beenbad. But the problem is this is
the postseason success. So they werefirst into division in the twenty twenty season,
but they lost in the wild card. Yeah. The next season they
were first in the division again attwelve and five, lost in the divisional
round. Yeah. Then last seasonthey were seven and ten and didn't make

(50:12):
the post agon. I mean,that was horrible collapse last year. Yeah,
so and so going so going pastthat, right, it's like one
of the last nine Super Bowl winnersif at one one, one thousand yard
back one the average I think,I think I didn't write it down,
but I think the average they saidit's eight hundred and eight of the last

(50:38):
fifteen champions, only three you've hadone thousand yard back. Of the last
fifteen rushing championships, three played fora team that won a single playoff game.
Wow. Only Derrick Henry in twentynineteen. Maybe as far as the
championship rounds. Wow. So Iknow Gurley one offensive player of the year,

(51:07):
I think the year they got tothe Super Bowl. But when he
I don't know if he led theleague in rushing though. I I mean
Gurley was doing everything for the Ramsthat year. He was you know,
definitely was year he was he was. I mean, he was the heart
and soul that Rams office that yearwith him, Jared Goff, Cooper Cup.

(51:28):
But I think I just, Imean, I think the NFL is
just a league where the even whenit comes to just not getting fully guaranteed
contracts, it's just it's the oneleague where you have so many positions,
so many players that there's just somuch leverage to the teams themselves. Yeah,

(51:52):
and they don't pay enough like anNBA player can sit out like kind
of like we talk Jalen Brown's leverage. Jalen Brown makes a massive impact on
the Celtic success. Yes, Imean you want to tell I mean,
look at Daniel Lillard right now,Damien Damiens could hold out if you wanted,
you could say that you wanted there. Yeah, James Hardison essentially like

(52:13):
I want to be traded out.I don't know if he's gonna set out,
but he's not James Harden thirty thirtythree, thirty four. Yeah,
these old these these older dude things. Didn't you know what James Harden Man,
Listen, I've got to the pointI don't even think James Harden went
some people who are championship anymore.I'm pretty sure. Man, Like you
just want to tell man, Inot wrong with that. Not even players

(52:36):
nightie player has the goal of,like, you know, trying to trying
to win a championship like that.Nah, it's facts, you know if
if you know, sometimes he's wantto play you wanna play his home state,
in his home city, He's gota wrong with that. The story
always changes every single time people requestthe trade. It goes from oh I

(52:58):
want to I want to go somewhereand play with some to win for a
championship. Then I want to goback home. Then it's like all these
narratives changed, so people can alwayssay, oh, I want to do
this, noble thing. It's like, dude, just say I can't win
here, nothing wrong, you know, Jim Burn. I think James Hardon
he had his three years where hereally tried to win ship. But no,

(53:22):
you know, I'm gonna pay JamesHardon like that. I think most.
I think his years in Houston andhis year and I think I think
the next one really soured him.I think the Nets and then when he
got the Philly, I think hesaid, I'm gonna get a Philly and
shot. If it don't work,I'm done. And I think that's where
he's at now. But he's justlike, man, listen, I don't

(53:43):
want to play. I'm gonna playin LA. You know, I just
played my pay check. I play. You know, if we win a
championship, cool, but I'm goodman. Just let me good and play
where I want to. For realthough, I definitely feel that. Yeah,
but you know it's like again,those two can him, and they
can do that. They have allthe leverage, and it's like, yeah,

(54:07):
it's like they were they were talkingabout like, oh, running backs
might sit out in mass and it'slike, okay, they will literally just
replace you do not I think likerunning back oh, they will place.
It would be like the rest.I think that's the I think that's the
problem running backs are. I thinkliterally the only position that could ever change

(54:28):
things in the NFL would be quarterbacks. Literally, it no either quarterbacks or
offensive linemen in in droves. Ithas to be a unified effort. That's
the thing. And that's the onlyreason where the running backs has been in
due value. As interlags would becomemore and more in football, people are
starting to realize it's more on youroffensive line than as your running back.

(54:52):
Yeah, unless you have like anAdrian Peterson kind of guy back there who
breaking backs and then and then goingor Mary Standers who's like getting getting yards
after like you know, he getsa miss and then keep is going.
Like, unless you have an offensiveline, they ain't doing nothing. All
that skilling is useless. Yeah,that's true. So it's like they rather

(55:14):
just like how they just they justpaid through offensive line today and they're like,
well, we're gonna get that moneyto say for us, No,
that's offensive line, because I meanyou got thinking that these double as.
Yeah, they're you're getting a runninggame from and they're protecting the quarterback.

(55:35):
I mean It's funny because when youlook at it, Bro, here's the
crazy thing. When you look ataverage positional spending, left tackles on average
have a higher salary than quarterbacks.Bro, you got to protect the quarterback.
Wow. Yeah, that's such aninteresting thing to see. So left

(55:57):
tackles have the highest average pay salary. After them, it's quarterbacks. Then
after the quarterback, it's the righttackle. I'll pay your offensive line.
Man. That's like, Bro,in a league where your quarterback costs how
much? You know, it's like, ain't no way, I'm gonna let
my quarterback be out there with thebum offense. Andrew Luck, oh man

(56:21):
the poster boy for this at thispoint, and Luck ain't no happened in
my quarterback. Bro. When youwhen you heard the spreadsheet of Andrew lux
injuries, you're like, Bro,who who did he go into the UFC
ring against? Yeah, Like,like, it ain't no way. Did
they just like not block them?Did they just let them? Like they
hate? Literally? Bro, whenthey said he had a lacerated kidney,

(56:42):
I was like, what it's like, man, I don't wait over from
walking away? Yeah, that manwas going through it. Bro, it
ain't no way again, it ain'tno way I'm going my quarterback take that
kind of be Yeah, they justthey chalk the money on that one man.
You have such a periminent talent andyou just couldn't find him to protect
them prospected Hayden Man just couldn't.He just walked away, couldn't, could

(57:09):
not take the beating anymore. Yeah, I don't know how you love the
game. After that, my manliterally said, I don't even care about
money. I don't care about likeI just can't. I can't fake this
no more. Like, bro,that is punishment. It's like you got

(57:29):
again a franchise guy who who whatlike it? This ain't no you know.
Oh he looked like hey man,and then he gets the field.
He like knock off k Mart.You know, kind was good. And
it's like he walked away because youguys couldn't putting off of this. Like
if I'm looking there, I'm like, that ain't gonna be my team.

(57:51):
We are not letting that happen.But it still gets me though, because
the problem is like teams still draftrunning backs and like the top fteen of
the first round, so send tome, Well, you know, I
will say this, I will saythis, there have been the running back
position like has now been kind oflike pushed back in the draft, Like

(58:13):
this draft was, I think theyhad it, but I think last year
the year before, no running backwhin the first round. Man, it's
like nuts, like this, Ilistened. I get it. I get
the running backs whom are mad andthey want to get paid. I get
it. But it's like I've alwaysbeen on this train, never like running
back about committee has been has beenthe trend. Why am I going to

(58:37):
pay a running back when I cantake that money and put it towards a
more valuable position. Yeah, Ijust you can't justify it. Like this
year we had two running bass goin the first round. It was Bijean
Robinson and Jamir Gibbs. Yeah,number eight to Atlanta and number twelve.

(58:57):
And when I'm confused about it,they aren't had running back. They just
took Yeah. But it's like butagain, like if that's what you're gonna
if that's how you're gonna do it, You're like, Okay, I'm gonna
take I'm gonna take these rookie runningbacks. I get three or four years
out of them. And you know, if we went by then cool.
If we don't, all right,I'll just take another one. I just

(59:19):
I don't know what what player.If you have the skill to be able
to play defense and you're you're you'rethe build of a running back, I'm
just like, I'm learning to playdefense, why would I want to be
a running back? The thing isif you're a running back now, you
know, it's kind of like howthe NBA is, right, it's like
you just talk about it, butyou're also Tim and fay Mons, Joakim
Noah bis Mat Biambo. They allgot those mass contracts, right, yeah,

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and what at five to seven yearslater, those guys roll off the
league. Yeah, and it's likethey those guys, those big they realize,
hey, we can't just be bigbig anymore. We can't just be
seven feet and big. We haveto get that skill. You can't just
be njured thirty we you have toyou know, it's like we have to
have a bag guy. And theywent out, Brooke Bochez learn to shoot

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exactly. Yeah, all these learnto shoot. They now said, okay,
we gotta learn to be mobile onthe perimeter. Now you have got
you could switch out with the perimeterrunning backs not to the same thing.
Each running back is gonna have tosay, all right, if I want
to get paid, I gotta go, and I gotta go, but I
gotta have hands, no matter what, I gotta have hands. You gotta
be able to me in the slot. Yeah, if, like, if

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I'm a running back, I'll belike, all right, cool, you
call me a receiver. I'll butI'll get in the backroom that once in
a while. Yeah, you gottabe up. Ain't no way you can
just be a running back. Andin this day and age, no,
you have to be able to doall three pillars. You have to be
able to catch, running, passprotect. Yep, you gotta. You
have to be able to do allthose. If you can't do those,

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don't expect get paid. It's justnuts because even looking at this, dude,
linebackers make more. I mean,I already knew that. But an
outside linebacker is average salaries three pointsix million, inside linebacker three point eight
million. The average salary for asecondaries two million. Cornerbacks are at two
mill. Safeties two point one,free safety four point nine, strong safety

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four point four. Like, ohmy gosh, running macks on the average
make one point seven fam kickers.Kickers on average make two point one.
Bro, kickers are important. Now, kickers are important. I mean they
directly result in points. But it'sjust a it's so funny the perception like

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kickers don't do nothing. Kickers arethe least athletic people on the field,
but they get paid more than runningbacks. They do. But you go
go looking who's all time league scoresin the league. That's so funny,
man, It's so true. Though. It's true kickers can decide a Super
Bowl for you. Yeah, TomBrady better be thinking, I'm terry right

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now. Sat his legacy. He'sring out of his of his career,
is it? That is hilarious becauseit's so true. But it's like,
and you know, like they threwsome ideas out there to alleviate and I'm
like, like somebody missing, likea carry's limit. And I'm like,
bro, listen, if you wererunning back and you approach, if you

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approach the team saying, oh Igotta carry limit, you back, believe
they're about to go get a runningback. Man, They're gonna go find
somebody else. Ain't no way yougotta pull up. Oh ione's gonna carry
one hundred and fifty times this seasons. Man, I go pull somebody off
the street who aren't twenty two hundredand fifty, somebody who just wants an
opportunity. Yeah, yeah, somebodyrunning backs. Well, either that or

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they they gotta like for running backsspecifically, running backs are the only position
that carries such a load and yetare also are also predisposed to the same
franchise tags stipulations as other positions.If they're gonna franchise tag running backs,
it should be for a two yearstipulation. It shouldn't be for one year.
Yeah, I've I've seen that.I've seen the idea that, like

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maybe running back count differently against thecap. I've seen, I've seen it
an idea. I'm just like,I don't know, because it's hard to
make the case that, like,for example, right we reviewed how running
back directly impacts winning, but it'shard to make the case that they don't
because of how much of a teamuses them. Like it's hard to argue

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whether or not Derrick Henry's impact becausethe two two the best seasons that or
the team the year that they gotto the AFC Championship, Derrick Henry led
the year in rushing for the Titans. Yeah, we all know Adrian Peterson
was literally the sole reason why thatVikings team was even relevant. But granted,
obviously that team wasn't unlocked until BrettFarve got there and then they went

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to the NFC Championship and then obviouslybounty Gate. But but I mean,
we can even make the case fora team like I mean, there's so
many different cases that you can justgo and pick and choose whip and look
at some of these teams and say, hey, well this team has running
back here and there. But Idon't know, I just don't know if
it's it's it's not fair to therunning backs to say they don't account because

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even being able to run, LikeI remember sat where Jared Goff, his
completion percentage was just drastically drastically lowerwhen when he was not running play action
or when it was an empty backfieldand he knew he wasn't going to run
the ball. So yeah, runningbacks intrinsically change how deepeness is approach a
team and how they how they shapedtheir defense, how often they blitz.

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Because I already said if there wasno running backs in the backfield, teams
are blitzing every down. Yeah,so they you know, in the recent
game, looks like they've gone tothe quick pass game, the quick like
quick checkdown, quick out route,real quick like, and that's kind of
take Another thing that's taken away fromthe running back is like, all right,

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they're putting the ball in the quarterbackhands more. So it's like,
all right, well, now we'veonly been used you guys through short games
like that anymore. It's like Ithink in the league last year, it
was like Derrick Henry left the leagueand I think he carried about twenty two
times a game. Josh Jacobs hadtwenty, and then nobody else has seventeen.

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Really yeah, like' like they justthey just don't care. There's you
know, like backroom in like ten, ten, fifteen years ago, we
had bro everybody wanted to work warsback and now it's like now we don't
want to really touch the ball likethat. Like you can get your touches
everywhere, like yeah, you know, you'll get like your fifteen, but
we didn't have you do no likeheavy lifting like that. Yeah. Yeah,

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So it's kind of and then ifyou're not getting your heavy lifting,
you ain't getting your numbers. Ifyou ain't getting your numbers, you ain't
getting paid. It changes the wholeparadigm of everything. I mean it,
there definitely has to be a fixedto it because it just doesn't work the
way currently things are. It isn'tit's not, it's not. I don't
think it's fair to running backs,and I just don't think it's also fair

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to I think one of the thingsthey need to do is go back then
in two thousand and eleven, theytook away the ability to negotiate the deal
after your third year, and it'slike bringing back from running backs or something
like that. I don't know,because it's like if you're gonna if they're
gonna burn themselves out in their firstyou know, two three years, it's

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like, let them get paid burningthemselves out. Yeah. Yeah, then
it's like that's fair. But it'slike right now, it's kinda like I
get, I get where the runningbacks are coming from. It's just hard
for me to be like and Idon't I'm never signed with no billionaires.
Don't get wrong, eat the richbro all that. Like, it's just
tough to be like because you see, yeah, it's tough for me to

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sit here and be like justified payinga guy. You know, we don't
know business things fair and it's tough, especially when it's like the the use
case is sa Quan who hasn't beenthe healthiest. Yeah, it's like he's
twenty of his eighty games. It'slike, you know, listen, man,
I can't. I would I trustlike giving you a long term deal
when you you've had issues. Yeah, totally. Man, well, I

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was want to get go on.It's like they keep talking about like old
quarterbacks. You know, oh theytake quarterbacks. It's like quarterbacks listening quarterbacks
in the DAMA doesn't Yeah, Imean that's true, like you you are,
you are not getting there's no you'renot drafting quarterbacks in the six seventh
rounds and they're starting Rob Ferdie isa is an exception, not the rule.

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