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Speaker 1 (00:01):
The following is a presentation of FCB Faith. This is
Keeping America First with Bishop John T. Cotes and Reverend
Jeff Jemison on FCB Faith.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
And we are happy to have with us another exciting guest,
none other than Ohio's representative from the forty fourth.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
District, Josh Williams.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Josh is gonna talk about an article that he wrote
in the Wall Street Journal. It was an op ed
and we're going to just dive right into is very interesting. Josh,
how are you today.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I'm doing really good. Thank you guys for having me
on again.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Yeah, and before we go any further, just like to
say congratulations for being re elected. The article that you
wrote appeared in the Wall Street Journal just a couple
days after the Nov. Fifth election. It was entitled and
it caught my attention and I'm sure many others thousands
of others or probably millions, and it was entitled why
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the GOP is winning over minorities. I want to talk
about that a little bit. Could you just kind of
delve right into it and tell us what precipitated you
to write that issue article.
Speaker 4 (01:29):
Yeah, so during my reelection, we were on the ground,
not only in my district, but where a lot of
my family members and my wife's family members live in
the Inner City, which I don't represent in my district.
But you know, when we go to family outings, were
going to restaurants and bars. I go to my barbershop
and we're talking political issues because it's a politically charged
environment at the time, and I'm listening to black men
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and women like myself that are talking about the issues
they care about, which were inflation, job security, job creation,
good schools for their kids, lower taxes, being able to
keep more money in their own pockets, you know, community safety. Immigration,
but from a different perspective, they were more concerned with
the fact that people were coming across the border getting
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resources given to them for free. But black people have
struggled in the Inner City for generations and weren't getting
that same type of reciprocal treatment by the federal government.
So it was frustrating them. These were the issues I
was hearing on the ground. But yet when I looked
at the Democrat Party, both in my own race and
in other races across the country, I'm watching the Democrat
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Party push the issue of abortion. I'm watching them push
the issue of LGBTQ issues. I'm watching them send a
message forward that is not resonating with the everyday people
that I'm talking to on the ground that looked like
me and looked like my wife. So I've literally was
astounded when this continued leading all the way into the election.
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When I saw them making the stallion, you know, and
Cardi B and Beyonce, I'm like, man, they're really pandering
to minorities in a way that's disrespectful to the issues
they care about. Maybe they don't realize it. And we
walked into the election cycle and then boom, Trump wins
the popular vote. He wins a overwhelming increase in both
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male Black votes, Black female votes, Hispanic even Hispanic female votes.
And afterwards I thought I was going to wake up,
you know, from this election cycle and have the Democrat
Party try to address themselves, reevaluate what they needed to
do to get back the trust and vote of the
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Black community and minority communities. But soon on Thursday morning,
I turned on the TV and I'm listening to MSNBC
say the reason Trump won is because he dug into
or tapped into the institutional misogyny in America. He tapped
into the institutional racism in America. I turned on CNN
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and I heard pundits saying black men need to reevaluate
internally why they voted for someone that's a fascist and
a Nazi. And that's when I realized, Oh my god,
it's not that they're out of touch. They're just ignoring us.
They expect our vote, they almost think it's bought and
paid for, and they've moved on to other issues trying
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to build their coalition. And that's what precipitated me writing
the Beed. I was simply trying to give an alert
to my Democrat colleagues that are more moderate, there's a
home here for you in the GOP, but also to
my black and brown brothers and sisters that don't feel
bad voting on your issues instead of your party affiliation.
Speaker 3 (04:51):
I was an issue voter for a.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
Very long time, an independent voter for a very long time,
and when I voted those issues, I started to notice
a trending my own votes that I'm voting for more
Republicans as I got a little bit older, because those
issues were being championed more by the GOP and the
Democrats turned their back on it and went to these
other issues as a conservative Christian that I don't agree with.
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That's why I think they're losing black and brown voters.
And I think the GOP has the ability to pick
up these voters consistently, not just in this election, but
consistently if we stay on message and on issue.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I agree with you one.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
It really amazed me with the amount of pandering that
was going on. And I think that it's somewhat insulting
to African Americans, especially men, to have Taylor Swift and
all of these rock stars and and entertainers get out
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there to get your vote. And I think that's just
it's it's it's so lightweight and not really addressing the
pocketbook issues, the wallet issues, the bread and butter issues
that affect most men, and not just men, but most
most families. So I'm glad to hear you say that.
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What do you think can be done?
Speaker 3 (06:17):
I mean, because there's.
Speaker 2 (06:18):
Still a lot of people out there that just will
don't get it. Uh do those folks have to do?
Is it a generational thing? Do you think where people
have to I hate to say this, but kind of
like die off or just just rid into the sunset
and the new generation of young people steps up and
starts being involved with both parties like other like every
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other ethnic group.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
I think it's.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Important that we get the young people engaged, like myself,
into the party so young people can feel represented. Representation
is always a good thing, But what I think is
more important is that the Republican Party, not only in
Ohio but across the United States, including our federal government,
stay can consistently on message. You know, we don't get
this power and then all of a sudden go back
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to pushing policies that can be shaped a certain way
by mainstream media that are not friends to us. Instead,
we should focus on policies that the average blue collar
worker and the inner cities and in the royal areas
are going to care about. You know, I said it
on my Fox News interview. You know, these issues are
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not white issues, brown issues, Black issues, their American issues.
When you address it from that perspective, it will automatically
affect black people. Right when you fix job creation problems,
when you fix workforce development problems, making it where people
can get draw job training and upskill training for free
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in our community, like we're doing here in Ohio. When
you make it about lowering the income tax, when you
make it about removing tax on tips, when you make
it about hopefully, something I want to push is removing
the payroll tax on ten ninety nine employees, giving them
the benefit of being entrepreneurs. When you start approaching issues
like that, things that are going to affect all Americans
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and and black people see how it affects them as well,
they will vote for that for the future.
Speaker 3 (08:16):
But when you go to the table saying, well, what
are your.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Black and brown issues, and you highlight things like racism,
and what you do is you try to charge the
political cycle with Black Lives Matter movements or protests about
the killing of one individual, Will hundreds of people die
on a weekend in Chicago and you don't say a
word that politically charged?
Speaker 3 (08:38):
Uh? Uh? Will own that that politically politically charged? Uh?
Speaker 4 (08:43):
Pandering right that emotionally charged. Pandering to minorities only works
on a select number of people that are emotionally sensitive
and are not emotionally uh mature enough to say, I'm
not going to buy into you having someone dancing on
the stage torking, I'm not going to have you. I'm
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not going to buy into you bringing on a celebrity
like Oprah, and then afterwards we find out that all
of you were paid to be there, right, kind of
false endorsements. Instead, I'm going to worry about the average
guy in the home, trying to provide force family, try
to pay the rent, try to pay the mortgage, try
to pay the car. No, trying to figure out why
housing prices or housing valuations have increased, and Lucas County
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sixty percent, you know, over the last three year reevaluation period,
increasing our property taxes tenfold. People care about that stuff,
and we need not only President Trump to address it,
but we need the newly controlled Republican Senator House to
address it. We need our state legislatures to buy into
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this American First agenda. And we need to point out
when the Democrat Party is pandering to a particular group
because it's not.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Oh.
Speaker 4 (10:00):
I pray that black men and women and brown men
and women in America realize their true power.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
See.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
I can get in a long philosophical conversation about you know,
how we were in the civil rights movement and Herbert
Hoover saw that as a national security a crisis, the
two parent black family and the power that we had
to bring forward the civil rights movement and get real
results and the policies. I can show you how it
was intensity used to dissolve the nuclear black family, make
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it into a single mother household, put the black men
in prison, shut down the industrialized training facilities in our
inner city schools. So you wouldn't be able to get
a good job right out of high school like we
used to be able to. You would have to go
off to college and get these degrees, and then they
wouldn't hire us like I can show you the institutional
racism that came from the actual Democratic Party that hurt us.
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But what black and brown people need to realize is
if you pay attention to that election. We said it
for a long time, if Trump can get twelve to
fifteen percent of the black vote, the election will be hit.
He's swung it harder than that, right He's He's swung
it way harder than that. Even when it came to
Hispanic males, Oh my god, he picked up huge gains there.
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And when they realize their true power, that they are
the group that can help select a president, they need
to start bringing calling people to tasks to fix their
everyday problems. When they realize that and they look at, well,
who's putting forward policies that can benefit us. They're going
to come home to the Republican Party like we were
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up into the nineteen sixties.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, there's so many people that come to mind that
form alliances. So many African American religious communities and other
folks form alliances with folks that they have no belief
in what they stand for. For instance, you can walk
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in on my I'd say ninety nine percent of the
churches want young boys to grow up to be men,
they want young girls to grow up to be women.
They have ministries, women's ministries, men's ministries, and the importance
of these things that are just critical to the existence
of reproduction and sustaining are you know, Black communities and
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people as a race. So and there's so many issues
like that where they get watered down and compromised. And
what happens is there's a lot of people that want
people to stand up for what's right, what's always been right.
And you know, for instance, you haven't heard a thing
about men can get pregnant since this election has been over,
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and hopefully we will never hear any more.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Of that stuff.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
But they're things like that that the Democratic Party, the
Democrat Party embraced and started embracing so much of this uh,
this this these cultural issues that that just go against
the grain. And there's so many people, so many regular
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I hate to say regular, but just so many men,
traditional values and so forth that don't want to embrace
a lot of this stuff that uh is non uh
that that is coming uh into into existence that really
is to their own detriment.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
So one of the reasons, yeah, one of the reasons
we're not hearing, you know, making get pregnant anymore is
because they just lost the House, the Senate, the presidency,
and we control the Supreme Court. So mainstream media on
a national level is not gonna talk about that anymore.
They're gonna talk Trump bad for the next two years
and try to be an obstructions. But what we got
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to do is we got to continue to pay attention
to the state legislatures. Right, We're gonna we're gonna continue
to see Democrat legislators push that agenda. Right, We're gonna
see California do what they just did and try to
increase the age of how long what the age gap
can be from a person having sex with a minor.
You know, they just made it where it's ten years.
So most states, like in Ohio, we have this caveat
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in the law where if you have sex with someone
that's under age or even sexual conduct, that's unlawful, but
if you're within four years of that person, it's a
lower offense. When in California, they tried to make it
lawful to have sex within ten years, so a fourteen
year old could be having sex with a twenty four
year old and they tried to put it under the
wraps of This is disproportionally harming, harming the LGBTQ community,
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as in men having sex with boys and girls, women
having sex with little girls.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
And all we have to.
Speaker 4 (14:47):
Do is continue to pay attention to the state legislatures
because they are still pushing these issues.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
It's just on a national level, they just lost control.
Speaker 4 (14:53):
So they're they're moving into preservation mode, which is Trump bad.
These are his bad appoint to, this is his bad policy.
We vote knowing this, we vote knowing this, We vote
knowing this. That's what they're gonna do moving forward because
that helps their agenda. And then just like Barack Obama
when he got elected into a second term, he ran
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under one thing, and then once he got in office,
that's what all the I'm not going to defend the
Defensive Marriage Act.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I'm gonna promote gay marriage.
Speaker 4 (15:21):
I'm gonna promote LGBTQ issues once he was actually in there.
So we're not going to see those issues again unless
they get back in power in either chamber, which won't
be at least for hopefully a long time, but we're
gonna have an opportunity for at least two years.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
I'm gonna let our producer jump in here with a
quick question. I'm sure we want to say something.
Speaker 3 (15:46):
Go ahead, yeah, quick question, Josh.
Speaker 5 (15:50):
I mean, we've seen the historic outcome of the election,
and we saw you guys talked about the increase of
the black and Hispanic vote. But we also know that
there are issues that are maybe not necessarily unique to
our community, but they're more acute in our community that
we're still dealing with. So, now that the Republicans have
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won these voters over, what responsibility do you think the
party has to address those issues in order to keep
those voters.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
I think they have an obligation, and I will even
use a stronger word, they have a mandate to address
those issues. But here's the issue, Derby, is that in
order to address those issues, they have to know about it.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
You're asking a party.
Speaker 4 (16:38):
That doesn't look like us to find issues when people
in the inner city won't work with us. So like
I've tried to fix issues in the inner city of
Toledo working with our county commissioners on parts of my
county I don't even live in, and they refuse to
work with me. They don't want me to address those
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issues because as soon as Josh Williams addresses those issues,
it's a win for Josh Williams, and it hurts our
party's image because Republicans are fixing issues in our cities
instead of us being able to fix it, so they
play the oppositionists. What needs to happen now is those
black and brown individuals that voted for Donald Trump and
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in Ohio Bernie Moreno and myself, they need to come
forward with their issues and let us as good legislators
come up with solutions for those issues. But you can't
expect individuals to find the issues in your community when
we're being blocked out by the party that controls a
lot of those communities. Because even though he won those votes,
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Toledo still controlled by Democrats. The county is still controlled
by Democrats. Yeah, he picked up margins in those areas,
but as soon as we try to fix problems in
the area, we get pushed back by the elected officials.
Speaker 3 (17:51):
Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
That's why we've launched this show, Keeping America First to
be a bridge. We're going to be a bridge to
those that need to come across, those that need to
come across down I'll tell you one thing that we
have found in our discussions with all across the country.
What's happening is a lot of folks are afraid to
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speak up. They've been been banned on social media for
speaking up. First Amendment rights have been violated. And we
want to be that bridge and that conduit to bring
new people across the bridge to join us and making
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this country better and keeping America First. Well, we're out
of time, Josh closing words, and we're going to have
you back.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
Well, I appreciate you guys having me on again.
Speaker 4 (18:47):
We're going to continue to push forward to see more
black and brown representation within the GOP.
Speaker 3 (18:53):
Let's keep fighting the good fight. Thank you, and thank
you to our audience.