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The following is a presentation of FCB Faith. This is
the Jeff Glorian Nick Show.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
We're glad to be here again with our show that
is focused on finding solutions to the nation's many problems
our cities, our communities. So again, welcome, and today we
have a guest who has some very important information to
share with us, and his name is Representative Phil Plumber
(01:50):
from Ohio's District thirty nine, the thirty ninth district in Ohio.
Welcome to our show, Phil, how are you today?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Very good, Jeff, thanks for having me on. I look
forward to our discussion about the street takeover problems we're
seeing in the urban areas. And you know we're down
the backstretch of election season and ready for this month
to get over.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Absolutely, so we're here to talk about House Bill seven,
which is man It. It deals with all of these
problems that we're seeing across in our communities and across
the country with the violent street takeovers, and oftentimes phil
people wait until this situation happens, they're caught up in
(02:37):
an incident where vehicles pull up on the side of them.
They just don't know what to do. Then they're stalled.
Can you talk about this, what precipitated this you to
get this bill passed? Or tell us about the building
and give us a little background.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah, Jeff, the City of Trotwood and the City of
Dayton came to myself and Representive Andrea White with this problem.
And when we started investigating, and we start hearing from
some of our other members, like in Cincinnati Representative Abrams
and up in Cleveland also where they're having the same
situation in these urban areas where people are literally taking
over the streets intersections, you know, at their high powered vehicles.
(03:18):
People they're doing burnouts, they're shutting down intersections there, people
are writing in the engine compartments with the hoods up,
they're hanging out the windows. I mean, people are being struck.
People are standing there video recording this. I mean, this
is organized chaos, literally.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Absolutely and you know, it's so dangerous, and oftentimes we
find that people are so reactive and they wait until
something happens as opposed to just taking you know, preventative
actions to make their community safer. And it really bothers
me as an individual lives in an urban area and
(04:05):
that that folks don't take this serious enough to get involved. Oftentimes, again,
we just watch television and we these things play out,
but people don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
What to do.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
And this is so dangerous to innocence innocent citizens, women
and children. So tell us a little bit more about
this bill.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, so this is, like I said, organized chaos. We're
seeing it on the internet across the country, so it's
it's an organized group of people. They'll post it, they'll
meet in certain locations and then Dayton they do like
four intersections in a row, so they have the script
that you know, there'll be a third main. Then they
go down the Monument and Maine and they'll tie up
four intersections. They'll block the traffic so the cops can't
(04:51):
get to them. You know, that's one problem we have.
Then when the cops get there, they take off and
flee from the cops, putting more people at risk. So
what we did with this bill is we said, if
you're going to do this, it used to be a
reg Rol traffic ticket for you know, fail to control
your car, burning your tires. We made it a first
degree misdemeanor where you actually can go to your county
(05:12):
jail now for six months, you know, and there's a
there's a steep fine to that also, So that's the
part where they're taking over street. So we increased that penalty.
Then I really had a problem with them running from
the cops. You know, I have a thirty year law
enforcement background. Ten of those my last ten years I
was elected sheriff of Montgomery County. So I've seen a
lot innocent people getting killed from people running from the police.
(05:35):
You know. Last summer, we had an elderly lady who
was just walking down the street by herself, getting her
exercise in and she got hit by a person running
from the police and she died as well. So I said,
all right, while we're doing this, they're running from the police,
will increase penalties for that. So we increased that penalty
used to be a first degree misdemeanor all the way
up to a third degree felony. So you know, typically
(05:57):
you don't go to prison for a F five or
an F four, but for an F three. So we
jumped it up to an F three, and we're gonna
put you in prison now if you run from the place.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I think Darbo has a question. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
So one thing that happened up here that was very
disturbing to me is not only were they taking streets over,
but they were they were taking they had pellic guns,
and they were shooting pellic guns at the police. It was,
which is obviously completely Uh, it's hard to put in
(06:31):
words how stupid and dangerous and reckless that is. So
with this bill, which I think is a very important bill,
after the bill has passed or even during the process,
is this something that you know, the rest of the
cities around the state, are they aware that they have
these new powers now that they can that they can
(06:52):
use that, that they can enforce that to try to
shut this down.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah, it's interesting you said they're shooting pelot guns at police.
That's the first start heard of that. Man's that's another level.
That's a good way for somebody to get themselves killed.
Because if you point a gun at the police, I
promise you they're going to shoot you. You know that,
that's basic one on one law enforcement training. The bill
should be law here shortly, So after the governor signs
a bill, there's a ninety day waiting period, so it'll
(07:18):
be in law here shortly. And typically prosecutors send out
training bulletins training law enforcement officers of law changes like this.
But also the media exposure like this helps us get
the message out also, So it'll be in law here shortly.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
When did it become law or when does it become law?
What are the steps? When did it pass? The House
bill passed? House Bill seven passed when?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Well, the governor signed at early July, so this should
be going into law real short shortly here. It may
be in law now off of a follow up on that,
but it's like I said, there's a ninety day cooling
period after the governor signs, and that was an early.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Jaily, so we're looking at October. This should be coming
into law just anytime now. So one concern is judges.
Do judges sentence you know them with us six months?
(08:21):
So that's a big concern. How do you feel about that?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Where are we with that?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
You know, it's one thing to have the law on
the books. The public needs to be aware of this.
Number one, the public needs to demand that, you know,
judges follow this. Can you talk speak to that a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Yeah, you're absolutely right. I mean, we didn't make it
mandatory because the judges, you know, they can plain when
we take their discretion away from them. But judges, if
you want your discretion, use it wisely and start holding
people accountable, you know, and hopefully this continues in your community.
You guys, let the judges know, you know, let them know,
Let them know that the vehicles there for you to
put these guys in jail or prison. And we need
(09:01):
to start making examples of a few. And when you do,
word travels in the streets, the rest of them will
get the message that we're not going to tolerate this anymore.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
So Cleveland City Council up here is they're getting ready.
I believe they already introduced an ordinance that would largely
mirror your bill to up our penalties for this reckless action.
Is that something that all the cities would have to
do when they have to pass their own ordinances to
(09:32):
mirror the bill or could they just enforce it based
on your bill?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah? They get enforced. It just based on our bill.
So our bill is a state law. Most cities use
state laws and then they also have their own ordinances
they can use as well, so they have two different avenues.
But anybody can use the state law that's available to anybody.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
One concern that I have is I'm always concerned about
the safety of communities. And it seems as though a
lot of the more liberal uh positions and folks just
kind of continue to promote a agenda or issues that
really take the teeth the bite out of policing and
(10:15):
and and and law enforcement, which is really meant to
uh make the you know, protect the innocent though, the
innocent citizens. What can be done to put more of
a bite into this bill and this law? Is there
something else that we can do, because sometimes, uh, a
(10:37):
lot of offenders will just say, hey, I don't mind this.
The judge, you know, give me a slap on the wrist.
It's just a misdemeanor. Uh, you know that I'll get
an attorney that will just make this thing go away
like that. What can be done to put some teeth
into this, more more teeth into this, so that again
(11:01):
are women, our children and innocent individuals can be protected
from stupid high speed chases.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
What else can be done, Yeah, a couple of things
can be done. We can do a better job betting
our judges and elect conservative judges that uphold the law.
You know, they believe in law and order like most
your police commanders do. So this's better. Our judges better.
I mean, they only run every six years, so once
they get on the bench, it's hard to get them
off when they're a bad judge. So if at the judges,
(11:33):
and then we'll also watch this see how this unfolds.
You know, we tried to put a caveat in there
where we'd seize your car if you're doing this, and
if you know, if there's not enough teeth in this,
we'll go back to the drawing board and amend this
bill and talk to Senate into letting us seize your car.
We seize your eighty thousand dollars high speed challenger. You
(11:54):
may think twice about this.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I think a lot of our community leaders and individuals
who care about innocent people should, without a doubt get
behind this, irrespective of other issues. Protecting the communities and
the citizens out there that they represent in whatever capacity,
(12:21):
be it elected or religious, should get behind this. What
could you what can we do to support the seizure
of vehicles that which should slow down this problem?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Do?
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I think the best thing is let's all monitor this
and see if it slows down this behavior. And if
it doesn't, I can go back to the Senate and say,
you know, we tried your way and your way did
not work. Now we're going to try my way and
we're going to include seizures and we'll start taking these
cars because you and I both know if you lose
your eighty thousand dollars car, you're going to knock it
off real quick.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
That's right, okay, Phil, This is I think, without a doubt,
this is just such a common sense bill. I thank
you for uh you know, sponsoring this and getting it passed.
I know that's a lot of work, but we're gonna
work with you. We're gonna get behind this bill, and
like you said, we'll see if it slows things down.
(13:21):
But maybe it's even it's even better to get behind
you right now and push for an amendment to uh
put some put more of a bite into this so
that it's more preventive. And again we're gonna help you
get the word out of about this bill and make
sure that our judges. We're going to ask our leaders
(13:42):
to inform judges and communities and get behind this. And again,
is there some type of a way that we could
we could get a petition going to support this seizure.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Yeah, we can get a petition going. Also, talk to
your state reps and senators who have a voice at
the table regarding this. You know, if we get more
likely the people behind us, maybe they'll listen to us
and we'll get this accomplished. But you know, if this
bill is not working, it's not a fact that I
promise you I will go back to the table and
try to include seizures and forfeitures.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Hey man, that sounds great.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Phil.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
We're glad to have you. We're out of time, and
we just thank you for coming by. I know it's
a busy time of the year and season for you.
You've got so much going on. Phil Plumber from Ohio's
thirty ninth District, Thank you for being with us. Thank
you for being a part of this show. To our
listening audience. Again, let's remember keep fighting the good fight
and keep doing your part in your community, your city,
(14:49):
out your state and let's keep making this nation a
better place for us all. God bless you all.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
This has been a presentation of the FCB podcast Network,
where real talk lives. Visit us online at fcbpodcasts dot com.
FCB Faith is your rhythm and prey station.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
I listen, my mom listens, pretty much the whole family.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
I cannot, I cannot.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I canna.
Speaker 1 (00:18):
Said, don't, don't and no, don't.
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Listen to FCB Faith on iHeartRadio, Odyssey at ffaith dot com,
or tell your smart speaker to play FCB Faith on iHeartRadio.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
The following is a presentation of FCB Faith. This is
the Jeff Glorian Nick Show.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
We're glad to be here again with our show that
is focused on finding solutions to the nation's many problems
our cities, our communities. So again, welcome, and today we
have a guest who has some very important information to
share with us, and his name is Representative Phil Plumber
(01:50):
from Ohio's District thirty nine, the thirty ninth district in Ohio.
Welcome to our show, Phil, how are you today?
Speaker 4 (01:59):
Very good, Jeff, thanks for having me on. I look
forward to our discussion about the street takeover problems we're
seeing in the urban areas. And you know we're down
the backstretch of election season and ready for this month
to get over.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
Absolutely, so we're here to talk about House Bill seven,
which is man It. It deals with all of these
problems that we're seeing across in our communities and across
the country with the violent street takeovers, and oftentimes phil
people wait until this situation happens, they're caught up in
(02:37):
an incident where vehicles pull up on the side of them.
They just don't know what to do. Then they're stalled.
Can you talk about this, what precipitated this you to
get this bill passed? Or tell us about the building
and give us a little background.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
Yeah, Jeff, the City of Trotwood and the City of
Dayton came to myself and Representive Andrea White with this problem.
And when we started investigating, and we start hearing from
some of our other members, like in Cincinnati Representative Abrams
and up in Cleveland also where they're having the same
situation in these urban areas where people are literally taking
over the streets intersections, you know, at their high powered vehicles.
(03:18):
People they're doing burnouts, they're shutting down intersections there, people
are writing in the engine compartments with the hoods up,
they're hanging out the windows. I mean, people are being struck.
People are standing there video recording this. I mean, this
is organized chaos, literally.
Speaker 3 (03:37):
Absolutely and you know, it's so dangerous, and oftentimes we
find that people are so reactive and they wait until
something happens as opposed to just taking you know, preventative
actions to make their community safer. And it really bothers
me as an individual lives in an urban area and
(04:05):
that that folks don't take this serious enough to get involved. Oftentimes, again,
we just watch television and we these things play out,
but people don't know.
Speaker 4 (04:17):
What to do.
Speaker 3 (04:18):
And this is so dangerous to innocence innocent citizens, women
and children. So tell us a little bit more about
this bill.
Speaker 4 (04:29):
Yeah, so this is, like I said, organized chaos. We're
seeing it on the internet across the country, so it's
it's an organized group of people. They'll post it, they'll
meet in certain locations and then Dayton they do like
four intersections in a row, so they have the script
that you know, there'll be a third main. Then they
go down the Monument and Maine and they'll tie up
four intersections. They'll block the traffic so the cops can't
(04:51):
get to them. You know, that's one problem we have.
Then when the cops get there, they take off and
flee from the cops, putting more people at risk. So
what we did with this bill is we said, if
you're going to do this, it used to be a
reg Rol traffic ticket for you know, fail to control
your car, burning your tires. We made it a first
degree misdemeanor where you actually can go to your county
(05:12):
jail now for six months, you know, and there's a
there's a steep fine to that also, So that's the
part where they're taking over street. So we increased that penalty.
Then I really had a problem with them running from
the cops. You know, I have a thirty year law
enforcement background. Ten of those my last ten years I
was elected sheriff of Montgomery County. So I've seen a
lot innocent people getting killed from people running from the police.
(05:35):
You know. Last summer, we had an elderly lady who
was just walking down the street by herself, getting her
exercise in and she got hit by a person running
from the police and she died as well. So I said,
all right, while we're doing this, they're running from the police,
will increase penalties for that. So we increased that penalty
used to be a first degree misdemeanor all the way
up to a third degree felony. So you know, typically
(05:57):
you don't go to prison for a F five or
an F four, but for an F three. So we
jumped it up to an F three, and we're gonna
put you in prison now if you run from the place.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
I think Darbo has a question. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
So one thing that happened up here that was very
disturbing to me is not only were they taking streets over,
but they were they were taking they had pellic guns,
and they were shooting pellic guns at the police. It was,
which is obviously completely Uh, it's hard to put in
(06:31):
words how stupid and dangerous and reckless that is. So
with this bill, which I think is a very important bill,
after the bill has passed or even during the process,
is this something that you know, the rest of the
cities around the state, are they aware that they have
these new powers now that they can that they can
(06:52):
use that, that they can enforce that to try to
shut this down.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
Yeah, it's interesting you said they're shooting pelot guns at police.
That's the first start heard of that. Man's that's another level.
That's a good way for somebody to get themselves killed.
Because if you point a gun at the police, I
promise you they're going to shoot you. You know that,
that's basic one on one law enforcement training. The bill
should be law here shortly, So after the governor signs
a bill, there's a ninety day waiting period, so it'll
(07:18):
be in law here shortly. And typically prosecutors send out
training bulletins training law enforcement officers of law changes like this.
But also the media exposure like this helps us get
the message out also, So it'll be in law here shortly.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
When did it become law or when does it become law?
What are the steps? When did it pass? The House
bill passed? House Bill seven passed when?
Speaker 4 (07:45):
Well, the governor signed at early July, so this should
be going into law real short shortly here. It may
be in law now off of a follow up on that,
but it's like I said, there's a ninety day cooling
period after the governor signs, and that was an early.
Speaker 3 (07:59):
Jaily, so we're looking at October. This should be coming
into law just anytime now. So one concern is judges.
Do judges sentence you know them with us six months?
(08:21):
So that's a big concern. How do you feel about that?
Speaker 4 (08:24):
Where are we with that?
Speaker 3 (08:25):
You know, it's one thing to have the law on
the books. The public needs to be aware of this.
Number one, the public needs to demand that, you know,
judges follow this. Can you talk speak to that a
little bit.
Speaker 4 (08:38):
Yeah, you're absolutely right. I mean, we didn't make it
mandatory because the judges, you know, they can plain when
we take their discretion away from them. But judges, if
you want your discretion, use it wisely and start holding
people accountable, you know, and hopefully this continues in your community.
You guys, let the judges know, you know, let them know,
Let them know that the vehicles there for you to
put these guys in jail or prison. And we need
(09:01):
to start making examples of a few. And when you do,
word travels in the streets, the rest of them will
get the message that we're not going to tolerate this anymore.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
So Cleveland City Council up here is they're getting ready.
I believe they already introduced an ordinance that would largely
mirror your bill to up our penalties for this reckless action.
Is that something that all the cities would have to
do when they have to pass their own ordinances to
(09:32):
mirror the bill or could they just enforce it based
on your bill?
Speaker 4 (09:36):
Yeah? They get enforced. It just based on our bill.
So our bill is a state law. Most cities use
state laws and then they also have their own ordinances
they can use as well, so they have two different avenues.
But anybody can use the state law that's available to anybody.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
One concern that I have is I'm always concerned about
the safety of communities. And it seems as though a
lot of the more liberal uh positions and folks just
kind of continue to promote a agenda or issues that
really take the teeth the bite out of policing and
(10:15):
and and and law enforcement, which is really meant to
uh make the you know, protect the innocent though, the
innocent citizens. What can be done to put more of
a bite into this bill and this law? Is there
something else that we can do, because sometimes, uh, a
(10:37):
lot of offenders will just say, hey, I don't mind this.
The judge, you know, give me a slap on the wrist.
It's just a misdemeanor. Uh, you know that I'll get
an attorney that will just make this thing go away
like that. What can be done to put some teeth
into this, more more teeth into this, so that again
(11:01):
are women, our children and innocent individuals can be protected
from stupid high speed chases.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
What else can be done, Yeah, a couple of things
can be done. We can do a better job betting
our judges and elect conservative judges that uphold the law.
You know, they believe in law and order like most
your police commanders do. So this's better. Our judges better.
I mean, they only run every six years, so once
they get on the bench, it's hard to get them
off when they're a bad judge. So if at the judges,
(11:33):
and then we'll also watch this see how this unfolds.
You know, we tried to put a caveat in there
where we'd seize your car if you're doing this, and
if you know, if there's not enough teeth in this,
we'll go back to the drawing board and amend this
bill and talk to Senate into letting us seize your car.
We seize your eighty thousand dollars high speed challenger. You
(11:54):
may think twice about this.
Speaker 3 (11:57):
I think a lot of our community leaders and individuals
who care about innocent people should, without a doubt get
behind this, irrespective of other issues. Protecting the communities and
the citizens out there that they represent in whatever capacity,
(12:21):
be it elected or religious, should get behind this. What
could you what can we do to support the seizure
of vehicles that which should slow down this problem?
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Do?
Speaker 4 (12:38):
I think the best thing is let's all monitor this
and see if it slows down this behavior. And if
it doesn't, I can go back to the Senate and say,
you know, we tried your way and your way did
not work. Now we're going to try my way and
we're going to include seizures and we'll start taking these
cars because you and I both know if you lose
your eighty thousand dollars car, you're going to knock it
off real quick.
Speaker 3 (12:58):
That's right, okay, Phil, This is I think, without a doubt,
this is just such a common sense bill. I thank
you for uh you know, sponsoring this and getting it passed.
I know that's a lot of work, but we're gonna
work with you. We're gonna get behind this bill, and
like you said, we'll see if it slows things down.
(13:21):
But maybe it's even it's even better to get behind
you right now and push for an amendment to uh
put some put more of a bite into this so
that it's more preventive. And again we're gonna help you
get the word out of about this bill and make
sure that our judges. We're going to ask our leaders
(13:42):
to inform judges and communities and get behind this. And again,
is there some type of a way that we could
we could get a petition going to support this seizure.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Yeah, we can get a petition going. Also, talk to
your state reps and senators who have a voice at
the table regarding this. You know, if we get more
likely the people behind us, maybe they'll listen to us
and we'll get this accomplished. But you know, if this
bill is not working, it's not a fact that I
promise you I will go back to the table and
try to include seizures and forfeitures.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
Hey man, that sounds great.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Phil.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
We're glad to have you. We're out of time, and
we just thank you for coming by. I know it's
a busy time of the year and season for you.
You've got so much going on. Phil Plumber from Ohio's
thirty ninth District, Thank you for being with us. Thank
you for being a part of this show. To our
listening audience. Again, let's remember keep fighting the good fight
and keep doing your part in your community, your city,
(14:49):
out your state and let's keep making this nation a
better place for us all. God bless you all.
Speaker 1 (15:08):
This has been a presentation of the FCB podcast Network,
where real talk lives. Visit us online at fcbpodcasts dot com.
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