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November 14, 2024 38 mins
This podcast edition of Kenny Webster's Pursuit of Happiness features Infowars' Owen Schroyer and Houston firefighter union president Marty Lancton.  ( @KennethRWebster )
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Speaker 3 (00:21):
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and they hate you.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
So think about that.

Speaker 4 (00:28):
You know.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
I normally start the show with a joke, and that
one was kind of lackluster.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
How about this. This is not a joke. What I'm
about to say is real.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
The Biden Harris State Department is holding in house therapy sessions.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Why you know why, but I'll tell you anyway.

Speaker 3 (00:42):
They're being referred to as cry sessions to help government
employees deal with the Trump victory. Oh that's adorable. That
is just beautiful, isn't it. Hi, everybody, thanks for turning
on your radio. Great great Beard here with you today.
Interesting afternoon. We're having Owen Schroyer will be my guest
in the next segment. He is one of the top
dogs at info Wars and he is well Info.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Wars just got bought by the Onion.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
That sounds like a joke because it involves the Onion,
But actually that's a real news story. So he's gonna
give you the latest information about what's happening to Info Wars,
what's happening to him Alex Jones everyone else at the
teams to stick around for that. In the meantime, Gosh,
I don't really know where to start. Today, The New
York Times has admit that celebrity endorsements may have backfired
this election. Yeah, why don't we start off with that?

(01:27):
It's a brightbeart dot com story. I don't read the
New York Times, do you, guys? No, I don't far
but the far left New York Times admits that at best,
all those celebrity endorsements, at the very best, they didn't
move the needle. At worst, actually they might have backfired.
It is possible that at a time in America where
a lot of people can't afford to buy groceries, and

(01:48):
the current administration has contributed to the fact that you
can't afford to buy groceries, having old school celebrities come
out and tell you you're a Nazi for not continuing
to vote for the thing that's making it so you
can't afford groceries actually didn't work at all. Yeah, why
people weren't interested in what Beyonce and Oprah and Harrison
Ford had to say. When eggs cost four bucks a

(02:09):
dozen is a real who done it?

Speaker 2 (02:10):
Huh? Gosh, golly, Donna day I want.

Speaker 3 (02:13):
The Times admits Donald Trump enjoyed the support of Kanye
and Mel Gibson and John Voyd and Kid Rock, but
by and large, the biggest names in entertainment all backed
Kamala and it really didn't seem to matter much, didn't.
Here's a quote from the article. It wasn't always this way.
Celebrity endorsements used to seemingly carry substantial weight, with influential
figures like Oprah helping to magnify lesser known candidates like

(02:36):
Barack Obama in two thousand and eight. Hmm, but that's
the way it seems to have lessened his influencers. One time,
micro celebrities and podcasters like Joe Rogan, a former comedian
with amorpheus largely libertarian political views, have gained bigger audiences.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
They say, Wow, isn't that amazing? The New York Times
end quote.

Speaker 3 (02:56):
By the way, this is me talking now, trying to
take a swipe at Joe Rogan, while also pointing out
his endorsement is now more important than Oprah.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
They just don't get it. You guys don't matter anymore.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
There's a Republican strategist who told The Times that celebrity
endorsements tell voters, quote, you're a liberal, an elitist, and
a cultural progressive, and that an Oprah or Clooney endorsement
is the kiss of death.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
Is he wrong?

Speaker 3 (03:20):
No, he's not wrong. That's exactly correct. Ladies and gentlemen,
I mean, think about it. While stars of the past
were the elites of their day, there was once a
time when they didn't act superior.

Speaker 2 (03:31):
In private.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
They were likely as egotistical and self involved as today's
celebrity class, I'm sure, but in public their image was
entirely different from the smug, entitled in superior attitude we
see from George Clooney or Whoopi Goldberg or Jane Fonda
or Whoopi Goldberg or Julia Luis Dreyfus or Whoopi Goldberg
who just this week appears to have lied about a

(03:54):
bakery in New York City not making her birthday dessert
for her because they didn't like her political beliefs. Throughout
most of celebrity history. Americans like their stars because although
it might have all been an act in public, they
were humble, grateful, and never took themselves or their fame Seriously,
Denzel Washington managed to support Obama without alienating his audience.

(04:18):
Why do you think that is because he didn't call
us Nazis? Denzel's a classy guy. I don't think the
same could be said for the rest of them. They
hate us. They make that clear every time they open
their fat mouths. All we're guilty of is hating them back.

Speaker 5 (04:33):
Sorry, this is Kenny Webster's pursuit of happiness on KPRC
nine point fifty Houston.

Speaker 3 (04:47):
You ever notice, how by the way we're back from break.
You ever notice, how ever, since the election ended, the
highs and lows in this universe we're living in, it
been extreme, divided from each other. So much weird stuff
going on lately. I mean a lot of great things happening.
Trump's cabinet picks certainly good news, very optimistic about the future.

(05:10):
And yet right now here, in this moment, we're still
living in Joe Biden's economy. Big layoffs happening all over
the media, all over the country.

Speaker 2 (05:17):
Not great for people in my line of work.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
For example, I'm still here obviously, it's why you're hearing
my voice and our morning show, The Walton Johnson Show,
Kenny Webster's Pursuit of Happiness.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
We're okay.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
But if you work at CNN, if you work at MSNBC,
and for so many people on Main Street right now,
not Wall Street, things are bleak getting into this holiday season.

Speaker 2 (05:37):
Still, there's another thing that's pissing me off right now.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
For months, I mean really the years at this point,
there's been this story about the federal government going after
info Wars, the very controversial independent news outlet created by
Alex Jones. One of my career goals was to one
day be a guest on Info Wars, and earlier this
summer I got to do it.

Speaker 2 (05:57):
I was very excited about that.

Speaker 3 (06:00):
As one of the main people, probably the number two
guy at Info Wars was a January sixth prisoner, and
you listened to our morning show while he was locked
up in a federal penitentiary in Louisiana for a few weeks. Oh,
most of you probably know who I'm talking about, Owen Schroyer,
And to those of you that do know him, he's
become something of a young legend in our industry. You
probably know there's terrible things happening right now with the

(06:23):
weaponization of our legal system to take down info Wars.
Info Wars just got purchased by The Onion. Now that's
another story, altogether, long, complicated story. The Onion, the satire
news outlet of today, isn't exactly what it was twenty
or thirty years ago.

Speaker 2 (06:39):
It's not even really funny anymore.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
And they just bought info Wars, which begs the question,
what happens to info Wars. You can't buy people. You
can't buy Alex Jones or Owen Schroyer the rest of
the team, So where do they go? I wanted to
know the answer to that, so I called Owen Schreyer.
I've got him on the phone right now. Owen, my man,
I understand you're doing a gifts and go You're gonna
Is it true? You're gonna start your own news network

(07:02):
or or something like that.

Speaker 4 (07:06):
Yes, it is true, and I've got a lot of plans.
I've been anticipating this day obviously for some time. I
won't I won't reveal too much for you right now
because I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna be revealing some
things over the next couple of days on my x

(07:26):
account and.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Then on my Rumble channel. But uh yeah, in a way, I.

Speaker 4 (07:31):
Will give you the exclusive announcement. I decided I didn't
want to do it in out of respect for Alex
and Info Wars. I didn't want to use the final
moments of that platform to announce my launch. But but yeah,
so I'm giving you a bit of an exclusive. Owen
Troyer will be launching a news network based off of
the timeline of events that looks like the first day
will be Monday of next week. And yes, Owen s

(07:55):
Troyer is going independent and launching his own news network.
They can't silence me.

Speaker 2 (08:00):
I'm not done.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
I think my career has just begun. The experience that
I've had at info Wars will be very impactful and influential.
It's been very important for my future. But I feel
like when one door closes, another one opens, and it's
sad and wrong what they've done to Alex and Info Wars.
But that doesn't mean I give up. I'm moving forward

(08:21):
and I'm excited for the future.

Speaker 3 (08:24):
So what exactly do you think the Onion. I mean,
I guess there's no way of knowing yet, but they
own info Wars. It's almost it seems like, I mean,
after a month or two, no one's even gonna look
at the website anymore that ever would have been interested
in it.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
What's the point of doing that.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
Yeah, there's a bit of a mystery into that, and
you know, trying to reason with all of it. In
my head, it's like, what are they gonna do? Are
they gonna be publishing headlines like there's chemicals in the
water turning the frogs gay, or they're spraying heavy metals
into the atmosphere, or there's a deep state that one
of kills Trump. And so it's like it is the
satire on top of sat tire, equal reality. Like I

(09:02):
just don't know, I'm not exactly sure what their approach
would be. But you and I, you know, what about
the same age. I remember it was about twenty years ago,
probably when the Onion was at its peak, and they
actually were funny. They actually were funny stuff. You could
go there every day and find a story or two
and read it and get a good laugh out of it.
I don't remember the last time the Onion has been relevant,
ironically enough. Ironically enough, they tried to do a sattire

(09:26):
of Info Wars years ago. I believe it was Jordan
Klepper who hosted a basically a spoof Alex Jones show.
It didn't last very long at all. None of his
shows seemed to last long at all. He keeps getting
jobs and falling back down. I think he's maybe with
the Daily Show again.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
He keeps flopping when he gets a shot and then
you know, finds somewhere to land again. But so they've
tried to spoof Info Wars before and failed, So I
don't know. Is it satire on top of satire? And
it's almost fitting, Like this whole thing feels like a
bad Joe. OK So, I guess it's fitting that the
Onion is ultimately the new buyer.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
I have no doubt in my mind, Owen, for whatever
it's worth, this is going to make your name, your career,
your brand bigger ultimately because it directs a lot of attention.
A lot of eyes are on you right now to
see what becomes of you and the work that you
guys are doing. It's like the barber streisand effect for
those that don't know what that is, that when when
you try to make something go away, when you try
to hide something, when you try to cover it up,

(10:25):
usually the opposite happens.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Am I wrong?

Speaker 4 (10:29):
Well, that's why they call it the Barber streisand effects.
She tried to get people to stop taking photos of
her house, and then everybody wanted to take photos of
her house. But you know, I think, I think more
than anything, you know, there's a there's a there's a
human nature aspect of this where people are curious and
some people, probably like you and me, when you tell

(10:51):
us we can't do something or not to do something,
the more we want to do it. You know, I'm
there's a it's funny. There's a whole Futurama show about
that where they always say, don't look in the box,
don't look in the box, and then of course everybody
ends up looking in the box. So I think more
people than ever are going to be curious to hear
from Alex Jones. I think more people than ever are

(11:11):
going to sit back and say, wow, you know he
really was right about everything, including the attempt to close
Info Wars and shut him down. So you know, when
I look at this, when I look at this as
let's say, the final moments of info Wars, or we'd
had the final moments of info Wars. To me, it's
just total confirmation. It's total confirmation that the reasons why

(11:35):
I joined info Wars, my ideologies, my beliefs, my worldview,
it's just if there was ever doubt, if there was
a scentilla of a doubt, it's removed. If there was
a scentilla of a doubt that info Wars was truly
to groundbreaking, speaking truth to power, anti establishment, fighting the
corrupt government. If there was any doubt, it's been removed now.

(11:58):
And this is like that final moment of Wow, yeah,
they really are the bad guys. The bad guys want
to shut info Wars down. The bad guys really exist.
And it's just total confirmation. And so I'm honored. I'm
honored with with what I've done at info Wars, my
time at info Wars. This this doesn't take away any

(12:18):
of that. It just makes me even more honored that
I got to be a part of that ride. And yeah,
now I have an opportunity and you know, maybe even
a duty, I might say, to continue this fight.

Speaker 3 (12:31):
All Right, so it's my understanding and a lot of
people have asked you this, if you can go work
at Alex's new network, and you've addressed this on social
media that he can't hire you. Is that a legal thing?
Is it a financial thing? Why is that? Can you say?

Speaker 4 (12:45):
Yeah, I don't want to say too much, just out
of respect for Alex sure and and just some you know,
the confidentiality of some of the things that goes down.
But you know where it stands right now, there has
been no no job offered to me via the Alex
Jones network. And it's my understanding that, at least in

(13:07):
the mediate future. I'm guessing for financial reasons that they
just cannot bring on more people. It's just they just
don't have it in the budget.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
It just can't happen.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
And so you know, for me, I'm not I don't
want to take a day off air, you know, I
want to continue to.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Be going every single day.

Speaker 4 (13:30):
Uh. And so for me, I don't want to sit
in a holding pattern and be asking in a week
or a month, or six months or a year, hey
can you hire me? Can I work for you? So
it's time for It's time for Robin to uh. Leave
Batman and come the dark Knight himself. It's time for
this little birdie to leave the Alex Jones nest I

(13:53):
was always worried, I will tell you, Kenny, I was
always worried that people might not understand or maybe take
it the wrong way. I have nothing but love for Alex.
I have nothing but appreciation for Alex and everything. But
to the long and short of it is, there's nothing
offered me currently with the AJ network, and as far

(14:13):
as I can tell, financially, they just cannot hire me.

Speaker 2 (14:18):
Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
I mean, it's a tough time and it's a perfectly
understandable the guy just got destroyed by the federal government.

Speaker 2 (14:24):
And hey, one more question for you.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
And while we're on the topic that, because I know
some of our listeners would probably love to know your
thoughts on it. One way to learn what Alex thinks
about this new incoming Trump presidency, this new administration would
be to follow him on social media, subscribe to what
I assume will be his new podcast, his new show.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
That's all great stuff to do.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
But while I got you on the line, here, we
got Matt Gates incoming, Rubio incoming, the Department of government
efficiency incoming, Tulsea Gabbard in all these new appointments, plus
John Thune now in the charge of the Senate. I'm
just curious any winners, losers there anything you're or disappointed.

Speaker 4 (15:01):
About John Thune loser, I'll give him a shot. You
know where I stand generally, and then I'll go into
a couple specifics. Where I stand generally right now is
I want to stay optimistic. I've supported Trump, I've voted
for Trump. I've been there since twenty fifteen. Trump says
be optimistic, have hope. So I'm going to do that.

(15:21):
I'm going to be optimistic. I'm going to have hope.
Even with some of these picks that I don't like.
I'm not going to go on the offensive against them.
And I'm going to sit here and say, well, let's
wait and see, Let's give everybody a chance. Let's give
everybody a chance to get on board. But Thune is
definitely one we'll be looking at. I think the Rubio
pick is more strategic than anything else, because now Rubio

(15:42):
is basically at the behest of Donald Trump if he
wants a job. But I will just say this with
Vivek Ramaswami now the co chair, if you will, of
the Department of Energy of a government efficiency rather the
Department of Government Efficiency. And Matt Gates as the Attorney General,
assuming confirmation. That might be an uphill battle. Assuming confirmation,

(16:03):
these are two of the men. These are two names,
very few names that actually came to my defense. Matt
Gates even in a congressional hearing, that came to my
defense when I was being politically persecuted and when I
was a free speech prisoner. So to see them in
Trump's next administration, I can't tell you how excited it

(16:26):
makes me. I can't tell you how good it makes
me feel. I will never forget Vivek Ramaswami and Matt
Gates for what they did and said for me when
I was a political prisoner. So that's like that just
has me in the clouds. Man, I'm so excited about that.
And since you did mention it, isn't it funny? Yes,
I used to listen to this show when I was

(16:49):
in prison. It would have been a year ago today.
I was in prison a year ago today, a political prisoner,
a speech prisoner, listening to this show. And then in
the year twenty twenty four.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
I'm on this.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
Show with you, and you were in studio with me.
So it's a wild world, brother, and I'm glad to
know you.

Speaker 3 (17:05):
Dude. It is crazy, Owen, whatever happens, I think your
star is just beginning to rise.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Dude, keep up the good fight.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
There's a lot of people around the state of Texas
and throughout the Gulf Coast that are behind you. I
think exciting things are ahead of you. We just got
to get through a few more months here with Biden.
I guess a couple more and then hopefully I'm optimistic
to my man, Owen, keep up the good work, brother.

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Thank you. We'll be in touch.

Speaker 3 (17:28):
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Speaker 5 (17:32):
This is Kenny Webster's pursuit of happiness on KPRC nine
fifty Houston, Oh.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
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I'm Kenny Webster. Thanks so much for connecting with us.
This morning, afternoon, depending on where you are in the

(18:03):
country right now. I I feel like there are things
we've been doing on this radio show for so long.
We covered mayoral elections and local politics, and then, kind
of like a squirrel running across the street, we're so
easily distracted, like my dog when he sees a bird chirping.
I used to have this guy on the show all

(18:23):
the time. He's a major player in the Houston political scene,
kind of a controversial guy, Marty. You and I became
friends back when Mayor Turner was trying to fire all
the people in the fire department.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
Yeah. I don't think that we're too well for him. Yes,
he tried many things.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
For those of you that don't live in Houston that
are listening to this right now or watching us on
social media and you're wondering, what does this have to
do with anything, I'll make it clear right now.

Speaker 2 (18:48):
I think this is really important.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
We're living in a strange intersection right now in time,
both culturally and politically in America, where the subcultures have
all been divided, they've been shaken up.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Right.

Speaker 3 (18:59):
It used to be like, oh, these are union guys,
They're Democrats and those are this, they must be that,
And these are Latinos, and those are white people in
college educated people must be Republicans. Now, you could take
all that conventional wisdom and you could throw it out
the window because everything changed. But I think you and
I were kind of ahead of the gamut on this.
I think we were because a lot of conservatives in Houston, Texas,

(19:21):
back when our last mayor was around, were infuriated when
the last mayor, Mayor Sylvester Turner, Who's almost like, if
Hollywood Central Casting had to pick a guy to play
a corrupt politician in a movie, they would have picked
our last mayor, Sylvester Turner. You're just like, hey, everybody,
it's Sylvester Turner here, and I'm just a smiling guy.
And then he's like, well, yeah, but you're does your

(19:43):
boyfriend work at the airport where he makes hundreds of
thousands of dollars a year doing nothing? I mean, so
many bizarre things. And the thing that pissed me off
the most, the reason why a lot of firefighters listened
to this radio show who would not normally listen to
conservative talk radio, was because conservative people in Texas in
Houston were infuriated after the mayor of our city several

(20:05):
years ago tried to fire all the firefighters to avoid
giving you guys a raise, and since that happened, things
you it was a very unpopular move.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
Things got crazier after that, didn't they.

Speaker 1 (20:16):
Well, you know, he tried everything from you know, firing
a bunch of firefighters, which, by the way, regardless of
which side of the world people live on, absolutely nobody
on the city wide, stay wide or federal level could
wrap their heads around why that mayor would choose to
pick a fight with firefighters. It is absolutely insane. Prove
it proved to be insane and a feudal for his part.

(20:38):
So you know, he threw everything in the kitchen sink.
But you know, the one thing you can't do stop firefighters.
We go out there every day and put their lives
on line, the men and women at the station every
single day. And when you have politicians that think that
they are going to take advantage of firefighters, it's just
a dumb.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Move, right.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
So and so, since then, obviously Turner goes away term limits.
Thank god for term limits, right, it's a beautiful thing. Obviously,
I think Congress and senators should have term limits. It's
another conversation all together. He's gone now and now we
have a new mayor. We do and weirdly enough, our
new mayor, a lifelong Democrat, is actually very popular with

(21:16):
local conservatives. What do the firefighters think of the guy?

Speaker 2 (21:19):
Listen.

Speaker 1 (21:19):
I think for the first time in very long time,
we are seeing a mayor that has true leadership qualities,
that understands that if there is a problem, you take
a pragmatic approach to solve it. You don't just have
the appearance of solving it. And anybody that has met
a senator now Mayor Whitmeyer knows that he is about
as no nonsense as they get. Listen, taxpayers in Houston

(21:42):
pay their taxes and they expect services. The basic services
that we expect from our government is public safety, number one. Infrastructure.
You want your water to work, and you want your.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Trash to pick up.

Speaker 1 (21:55):
And if those systems aren't working, then there shouldn't be
a focus on all these other pet projects, which is
what previous administration did, wasting millions of dollars. So Mayor
Whitmyer has been a staunch supporter of public safety his
entire career, and I can tell you on a personal level,
he is what you see is what you get, and
if it fixes a problem and it's good for taxpayers

(22:17):
and it's good for public safety, he's going to do it.
So his leadership is vastly different than the previous And
I really tell people people, I think probably shortly, if
you haven't figured out already, will realize truly all of
the issues that were left for him, and all of
the issues that he continues to fix on a weekly basis.

(22:38):
You know, contrary to what some that used to be
here before, you know, it was a gravy train. He's
not interested in that. So the firefighters appreciate Mayor whit
Meyer's leadership shows not just in his words, but he
shows up. He was at the hospital in fact, with
myself and the fire chief when we got the call
last week that one of our brothers, Marcelo Garcia, when

(23:00):
he tragically died battling a warehouse fire, and Mary Whitmer
showed up to the hospital, was there all night.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
That's important.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
You know.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
I'm glad he brought that up because it's one of
the main reasons I wanted you here today. For those
of you that don't know yesterday we had to bury
one of a Houston heroes, one of America's heroes, Houston
firefighter Marcello Garcia. And this is such a sad story.
He is one of seventy Houston firefighters. I am told
that we have lost and can you tell the story
of Marcello.

Speaker 2 (23:27):
What was it that happened?

Speaker 1 (23:28):
You know, Marcelo is a ten year veteran of the
Houston Fire Department. One of the most impactful stories that
we saw. First of all, I want to say thank
you to all of the fire departments from across Texas
and the US that came in that backfield our stations.
Yesterday we had over four hundred and fifty firefighters from
across the state and the US coming to Houston so
that our firefighters could go honor him at the funeral.

(23:50):
So first want to say thank you. But tragically last
week he was battling a warehouse fire and a wall
collapsed and he.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Didn't make it.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
But one of the most impactful things that his sister
and his family have reiterated, and what we've known is
that he grew up on Houston's East End and he
wanted to stay in the community. That he grew up
in and he was a larger than life figure, and
I tell people he was a firefighters firefighter, he had
a smile on his face all the time, and he
chose the station he did so that he could serve

(24:20):
and give back to the community that he grew up
in and that his parents still live in.

Speaker 3 (24:24):
I have this list in front of me from the Chronicle,
and I got to tell you, of all the lists
I've looked at recently, this is easily my least favorite list.
I do not enjoy reading about DJ Bruce, for example,
shot and killed by an arson suspect in twenty twenty.
Twenty fifteen, Dwight Bazill died after suffering what appeared to
be a cardiac event while responding to a fire. I mean,

(24:45):
this is a long list, really sad day less caard.
I hope I'm saying this guy's name self inflicted gunshot wound.
We know PTSD affects people in the military. We know
that it affects people police officers and stuff like that,
but a lot of people may not. Rea guys that
fight fires for a living, they have to battle some
mental health issues as well.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
Huh percent, You're correct and I'm going to be very
clear about this. You know, years and years ago when
I came in, it was you didn't talk about what
we see and what we deal with. We have a
lot of veterans. Any one point in time, typically there
was about sixty percent of the Houston firefighters were veterans.
And what I explain to people is that when you
have our veterans that serve our country, they go over

(25:24):
into other places and they see the devastation and destruction,
it sticks with them. It's a real thing we can't
hide behind. And what I tell people is, you know,
those horrible images and things they take home with them
are from a different place. Houston firefighters and paramedics see
sometimes on a daily basis, the absolute worst of humanity,
and they're dealing with tragedy on a daily basis within

(25:48):
the community that they live and work. So you know,
you can recognize. I can still tell you calls that
have impacted me. You know, twenty some odd years ago
when a mother came running out of her house and
just put a lifeless baby in my arms and then
walked off. Those things stick with you. So PTSD mental

(26:09):
health is no longer something the Fire Service no longer
something we are shying away from. In fact, we have
invested hundreds of thousands of dollars from our terrible foundation
to ensure that when firefighters need help, because they're not
very good at asking for help. No, people that help
others often are not. They're not because they think that
looks weak. But the reality is is that we have
to be there for him. So I don't shy away

(26:30):
from it. We invest in it. In fact, one of
the things that we are focused on now. After Mayor
Whitmyer and his leadership, we were able to resolve what
Sylvester Turner started in our settlement was to build a
health and wellness center for Houston firefighters. With the third
largest in the nation and the number of calls and
the tragedies we see, it's a lot. The biggest to
be LA in Chicago and New York, Chicago, Houston and LA. Wow, Okay,

(26:53):
I would have thought, okay, LA has La City in
Alley County, so it's divided up.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
That makes sense.

Speaker 3 (26:57):
I would have thought that New York would be the
one that was all broken up by bureaus.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
No it's not.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
And FT and why is the largest and they just
have won different burrows, but it is absolutely something, especially
when you're talking about having to bury one of your
your brothers, somebody that you work with, their family. We
talk about brotherhood, and people don't quite understand if you
haven't walked in the shoes, it's difficult to explain. But
we are family. We take care of each other. And

(27:23):
we saw that, you know, over the past eight years
when you have somebody that that you know, declared war
on firefighters, Uh, we stuck together.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
And uh, that's what I want to take care of
our own.

Speaker 4 (27:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
The previous Democrat administration in this city wanted in a
post Hurricane Harvey, Houston actually wanted to hinder in handicap
quite literally and figuratively our local first responders, especially the firefighters.

Speaker 1 (27:45):
Which and we have a we have a saying which
is listen, Uh, people, just because you get one more
vote than the other person doesn't make you the smartest
person in the room, and it makes you the most dangerous.
And uh, Houston firefighters, we're here before you, We're going
to be here after you. And we you know, it
took an oath to protect the citizens. That's who we
work for. Hey, I'll tell you what. Let's put a
pin in that right now.

Speaker 3 (28:04):
If you're watching us on social media, we'll be back
in seconds. If you're listening on the radio, we'll be
back in minutes. Either way, don't go anywhere more with
Marty Langton, firefighter, Houston President right after this.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
Esppiness, This is Kenny Webster's pursuit of happiness on KPRC
nine fifty Houston.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
If you're just joining us, I've been having a very
important conversation. All a bit of dark conversation, but this
stuff matters. When you watch the news and you hear
about how there was some massive warehouse fire, something that's
very common in Houston, Texas, in industrial city, lots of
blue collar guys, lots of oil and gas people here,
certainly a chemical refineries, that sort of thing. When you

(28:49):
hear these news stories about a building, an apartment burning down,
and you see in the headline, you see in the
third paragraph a baby died in the fire. It is
so upsetting to think about this out loud, but it's true.
A firefighter at not only is that awful, but a firefighter,
a man who probably has children himself, had to go

(29:09):
into that building and remove the remains of that poor
child and take it out to an ambulance outside. And
so Marty Langdon, the president of the firefighter union here
in Houston, Texas, and I were just talking about how
that is a great deal of effect on your mental health.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
It really does.

Speaker 3 (29:24):
Now besides being the president, you yourself have a history
of fighting fires.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
That's how you got into this.

Speaker 1 (29:29):
But I think of going on twenty five years, I've
lost count, but yes, as a firefighter and a paramedic.
And you know, it's a calling, and what you just
said is wholly appropriate. What we don't think of, well,
the general public does not see and we don't it's
not probably not a good thing. We don't want people
to have to see the things that we have to see.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
Right.

Speaker 1 (29:48):
Well, the best thing I tell people is I said, listen,
if you have a home, it doesn't matter how large
or small it is, doesn't matter if it's a one
bedroom apartment or it's a large house. The point I'm
getting at is if you invite people over to your house,
will you intend to do is to make whatever environment
you're in the best it can be, because you want
people to feel warm and welcome. You want your friends
to feel or your family to feel welcome, and so

(30:09):
you clean up, you get everything nice, and so we
see oftentimes the best, or we try the most of
the time. But what's interesting about the world we live
in is that when you get a call, you don't
know what emergency is going to happen. So at two
o'clock in the morning, you really get to see how
people live. Yeah, and you're not expecting somebody and in
its emergency, so you can't make it the best that

(30:30):
it is. So you get a really good sense of
how people really live. But also when you least expect it,
when the emergencies happen, you're dealing with things that the
general public wouldn't want to see.

Speaker 2 (30:42):
Sure, in one.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
Experience you read about these I mean, any of us,
anybody listening or watching us right now, will read a
disturbing news story and well, thank god, we'll forget it
five minutes later. But for the men and women in
our fire department that went into that building and took
a dead dog out, or a dead baby or a
dead mother or whatever and carried it out to the
ambulance care remains somewhere, it's something you think about for
the rest.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
Of your life.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
One hundred percent and I always tell people too. In
our line of work, you can measure success or failure
based upon the outcome. Now I say that meaning you
could have done everything you possibly could have to save
their life, but the outcome was they didn't make it.
But you can still see whether or not something was
successful or not again based on the outcome. But those

(31:26):
images and what the men and women in the fire
department in Houston do every day. I mean they're doing
this ten, fifteen, twenty, twenty five times a day in
a twenty four hour shift, and so they're expected to
go to people on their worst day, figure out an emergency,
figure out how to process it, go back to the station,
pretend like it didn't happen, and then go to the
next one so that your head is clear. It's very difficult,
and that's why the focus for understanding that. Listen, they're

(31:49):
very tough. The men and women in the Houston Fire
Department are the toughest I have ever seen in my life,
and even the toughest at night time when it gets
very lonely. Sometimes you sit there in your mind starts
going and that's where we have to uh to be
there for them because we don't want there to be
a notion where and I have I have kicked down
motel room doors to go find our own men and

(32:12):
women that we're struggling there got and UH and we'll
do anything. And what they need is the help and
the support, and that's what we're doing. We've been providing.

Speaker 2 (32:20):
But that's also another credit to the mayor. UH.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
You know when I when mayor took office, that's one
of the biggest components that we wanted to focus on
was mental.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
Health on all areas.

Speaker 1 (32:30):
UH fully supported the new fire chief, Tomunyos one hundred
percent supportive. So we're all doing this together and we're
doing what we should do. It's support Houston firefighters.

Speaker 2 (32:38):
Something that I think a lot of people misunderstand.

Speaker 3 (32:40):
Those that just dabble in politics, the people, the people
just show up every two to four years to vote.
They really misunderstand that there is a staunch difference between state,
national and local politics. Right when when John mitt Wittmeyer,
the current mayor of Houston, was a state senator, I
probably agreed with him on zero issues. As mayor of Houston,

(33:00):
I probably agree with him on ninety five maybe close
to all the things he's currently trying to do.

Speaker 2 (33:07):
People don't get this.

Speaker 3 (33:08):
When Tony Busby ran for mayor several years back, people
didn't like him because he was a Republican or he
was associated with Trump or Ken Paxton or whatever. He
wasn't at the time, but you know that association with him.
They didn't like that about him. But when it came
to these local issues, he was with the firefighters, he
was with the first responders. In terms of how he
would have ran or operated the city, probably not that

(33:29):
different from what Whitmeyer would have done. There's a very
I think it's something very toxic about this country where
we can't put a side party lines when we're outside
the framework of national politics. As a guy that deals
with local political issues all the time, that's got to
be a thorn in your ass constantly.

Speaker 1 (33:47):
You know, I'm very fortunate because I take the mentality
that you have to put all of that hyper partisanship
aside because you're never going to get anything done. And
the real issue is do you support public safety and
do you want to improve the lives of the people
that you represent, and you're you're one hundred percent correct
on the local political level. To me, that is the

(34:08):
most important level of government because everything stems from that.
Our everyday lives are affected by that, whether that is
your service from police, from fire ems, whether it's you're
picking up your trash, that affects your daily life. And
then you get into state, which is a little bit
more amorphous to some because how the process works and
how you have to deal with different people. But there's

(34:28):
no more juxtaposition than work, than than operating in Houston,
which is heavily uh Democrat city and a super red state.
And the reality is is that if people put their
their feelings aside right and realize that, you know what,
there are people that want to get things done and
there are one hundred percent because it affects everybody and

(34:49):
it's not a partisan issue. If people want to make
something a partisan issue, it's because they're not looking at
how do you solve a problem. And if people really
take a position against it, you probably think to yourself,
why are they so hard against something that seems to
make sense? And under what we saw with the last
administration was typically people were you know, the friends and
family program where they didn't want the gravy train to stop.

(35:10):
And I can tell you that when mayor Whitmyer came in.
He is just as direct and focused on rooting out
the corruption, and he has hit with it all the time.
And the credit goes to him because I'm gonna tell you,
you've seen it on the news. You've seen all these
different entities, all these different facets of city government. They've

(35:33):
all gotten a look and they are not He's not
going to stand for people wasting taxpayer funds in Houston.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
One of the things that pissed me off the most
about the last mayor is that during that whole feud,
there was a big election, the firefighters were more popular
than the mayor. They were supposed to get a raised.
He decided to start trying to fire them and laying
them off, and then this thing happened. Where to those
of us that aren't actively involved in the middle of it,
it felt like he was pitting the firefighter union against

(36:00):
the police union. Now, the local conservatives in the city,
we have to pay property taxes. Sure, we know the
city and the county, you are going to spend our
money all we really want. We don't need a giant
land bridge in the middle of Memorial Park. We don't
need a giant you know, We don't need these pet projects.
We just want to feel safe. We want the roads
to be paved, We want to make sure the cops
have enough AMO, we want to make sure when the

(36:20):
firefighters show up they could put out fires. Do you
feel like that tension from the last administration is gone
now that the union, the police union, the firefighters union.

Speaker 1 (36:29):
No one of the things that I said for eight years,
and I came on this show and I said it
publicly and I repeated I said, I will never say
and never engage in a separation of public safety entities.
What other people choose or did choose to do is
not where we stood. You cannot have a unified city,
a safe city without firing police together. And I can

(36:50):
tell you that leadership matters, and what you've seen in
Mahrior Whitmeyer is all public safety matters. And to your
point about taxpayers, listen, you have a nearly seven billion
dollar budge. You know I've I was born and raised
in Houston. I paid taxes in Houston, and I'm gonna
tell you the first and foremost my taxes should go
to ensuring that we have enough police, they have enough equipment,
firefighters have enough equipment. We have enough firefighters and paramedics.

(37:12):
We're six hundred short because of semester, because the last
guys a last ga because they left. And we need
to make sure that our roads are safe, and we
need to get our trash picked up. If you're not
doing that right, we don't need to be worrying about
other things. And so that's the kind of approach that
we take, and that we're helping the mayor and we're
you know, the police and the firefighters are together. You're

(37:35):
not going to separate us, even though there was somebody
that tried.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
Yeah, I'll tell you what. I want to continue this
conversation off the air right now. We're gonna stay on
social media. But to those of you listening on the radio,
join us right now on Facebook, Twitter, YouTube, more with
Marty Langthon, Houston Union fire Fighter President.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
Right now, we're not going anywhere. Hang around.

Speaker 5 (38:00):
You are listening to the Pursuit of Happiness Radio till
the government took.

Speaker 2 (38:08):
Kiss your ass when you listen to the show.
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