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September 9, 2025 41 mins
This podcast edition of Kenny Webster's Pursuit of Happiness features State Rep Brian Harrison, author JD Shipley, and MAHA activist Jesse Henry. ( @KennethRWebster )
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Jack Ganic. Government sucks. The Suit of Happiness radio is DeLux.
Liberty and freedom will make you smile. Of a suit
of happiness us on your radio to al just as
cheeseburgers a liberty rise at food.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
A nurse in Kentucky saved a baby raccoon because it
was drunk, so she gave it CPR. The Kentucky part
of that news story was understood, wasn't it?

Speaker 3 (00:30):
Hi?

Speaker 4 (00:30):
Everybody, thanks for joining us this afternoon.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
State Representedive Brian Harrison stopping by and his investigation at
Texas A and M University where, oddly enough, taxpayer funded
college professors are teaching transgender and doctrination to people who
are going to school there to learn to be educators
of young children. That's supposed to be illegal. We'll talk
about that and why it's happening. Oh uh, are you

(00:54):
a man? Do you care about your health? The MAHA movement,
men's health and the Maha Movement. We're gonna do a
deep dive today. I have two experts here, one of
them my personal trainer, JD. Ship Willy from Starting Strength.
Jim's located in both Katie and Houston and a good
friend of mine Jesse Henry is something of an expert
on the chemicals people put in your food and how

(01:14):
it affects men's health. It's going to be more interesting
than you think. I don't know, or maybe you think
that's interesting, stick around. I think it's interesting.

Speaker 4 (01:20):
That's the point. That's why I'm doing it on the
show today. We'll get to all that real soon, real quick.

Speaker 5 (01:25):
Though.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I don't know if you guys read NBC news is
website or not. Probably you don't, but John Nolty Today
just published a report about a guy named Dorian Johnson.
Dorian Johnson is the degenerate liar from the twenty fourteen
race riots. He destroyed the working class town at Ferguson, Missouri. Well,

(01:45):
it turns out he was just killed in a shooting
on Sunday. I'm not celebrating that. I think it's sad
that that happened to him, and I don't like to
hear about anybody being murdered. But that's who he is,
that's what he was famous for. Now NBC News, a
far left extremist communist news outlet, is outspreading the lie
that Dorian hands up, don't shoot. Johnson told media outlets

(02:05):
what he saw.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
He didn't.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Actually he lied. Dorian Johnson, who was with Michael Brown
when the eighteen year old black man was shot dead
by a white officer in twenty fourteen. That's how they're
reporting it. Was killed in a shooting Sunday, according to authorities.
This is how the NBC News reported it. They say
the killing of Brown on August ninth, twenty fourteen, and
ferguson fuel demonstrations around the country in which people chanted

(02:29):
hands up, don't shoot. Johnson witnessed the shooting and told
media outlets what he saw end quote there. Actually, no,
he didn't.

Speaker 6 (02:37):
He lied.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
He lied over and he's a proven liar.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Investigation after investigation proved he lied about the entire incident.
That's why those cops didn't get in any trouble. August ninth,
twenty fourteen. Hard to believe that was over eleven years ago.
Twenty two year old Johnson an eighteen year old Michael
Brown robbed cigars from a local store and were walked
down the middle of the road. Just took went for

(03:00):
a walk over there. Unaware of the robbery, officer Darren
Wilson drove up and told them to get on the sidewalk.
That's when Wilson, still in his patrol car, saw Brown.
Brown attacked him. Brown tried to grab his service revolver.
Brown failed. Both Brown and Wilson took off running. Wilson
pursued Brown for a short distance. Brown stopped turn and
charged Wilson in fear of his life. Brown was a

(03:22):
big guy. Wilson shot Brown dead. Barack Obama's FBI looked
into the shooting and cleared Wilson of any wrongdoing. Barack
Obama's FBI did that. The Saint Louis County Prosecute Cutter
looked into the shooting and cleared Darren Wilson of any wrongdoing.
A grand jury looked into the shooting and declined to
prosecute because they cleared Wilson of any wrongdoing. Michael Brown's

(03:45):
DNA was found inside the patrol car, on the door
handle and on Officer Wilson's left thigh. Wilson was bruised
in the face. Numerous witnesses corroborate both Wilson's testimony and
the physical evidence that backed Darren Wilson's testimony. But this guy,
Dorian Johnson spent days rioting and lying to a regime

(04:08):
media desperate to stoke racial tension because it's good for
TV ratings. Johnson said that from his vehicle, Officer Wilson
instigated the physical confrontation. Turned out that was untrue. We
have eyewitnesses proving it wasn't true. We have DNA proving
it wasn't true. What followed was nothing less than an
American tragedy. The corporate media and their allies in the

(04:30):
organized left turned Darren Wilson, an innocent guy, into an
American pariah until he was forced to.

Speaker 4 (04:36):
Leave his job.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
NBC News did that. NBC News is an enemy of
we the people. So based on Dorian Johnson's lies and
a corrupt and willing media swallowing them whole, Officer Wilson
had to deal with lawsuits, death threats. His wife was
pregnant at the time, by the way, and has since
faded from public the public spotlight. You would too if
you were him. The people of Ferguson, Missouri had four

(05:00):
days of violent riots, and the corporate media threw gas
all over it. Now Dorian Johnson is dead shot in
the same town of Ferguson, Missouri, and NBC News is
resurrecting an old lie.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Imagine that I look you just such a pie hole
and keep working.

Speaker 6 (05:16):
Back to the pursuit of happiness radio.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
This DIFUSA happiness thing.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Sand Liberty and Posts Malone and Jelly Roll brought country
music to the VMAs. I'm guessing they also brought fleas.

Speaker 4 (05:33):
I don't know. They seem like cool guys. They just
look dirty to me.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
But that you know.

Speaker 4 (05:37):
I don't watch the VMAs anymore, but I do love music.
This is a great band. Do you know who this is.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
This is a band called Spoon. They're from Austin, Texas.
There's not a lot I like about Austin, but I
do love the music scene. There's some fantastic bands there.
And there's some terrible politicians in Austin, Texas. I don't
think my next guest is one of them.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
I will tell you this. My next guest is very
unpopular with the with.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
The law, hobbyists and the statesmen in Austin, Texas because
they don't control him.

Speaker 4 (06:04):
He's an outsider. It's probably why I do like him.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
State Representative Brian Harrison has been exposing some of the
indoctrination taking place at Texas A and M lately, that's
the only word to describe it.

Speaker 4 (06:16):
I thought this was supposed to be illegal. I thought
we banned this, we outlawed it.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
There's a childhood education class, meaning they're teaching adults, college
kids how to educate kids, young kids, very young kids
as young as three. And what they're teaching them is
transgender ideology. There's no other way of explaining it. Interestingly enough,
we now have emails showing that Texas A and M
threatened and tried to silence conservative students for talking about this.

(06:44):
Instead of firing the professor that was doing it, they
kicked a conservative student out of the class. And most
people wouldn't even know about this if it wasn't for
state representative and former Trump administration staffer Brian Harrison on
the line right now. Brian, Is this as bad as
it sounds? Stay Representative Brian Harrison, Thank you so much

(07:04):
for your time this afternoon. Is this as bad as
it sounds?

Speaker 5 (07:08):
Always great to be with you, Kenny. And unfortunately the
answer is not only yes, it's as bad as it sounds.
The truth is it's worse than it sounds. Not only
do we have almost every public university in the state
of Texas in doctrinating the next generation at taxpayer expense
in the woke leftist ideology of DEI and transgenderism. Like

(07:29):
I pointed out of Texas A and M, it's not
just the Texas A and M as indoctrinating students, Okay,
it's worse when this came to the attention of the
leadership of Texas A and M, and I just exposed
this this morning with some emails that I've released. Instead
of taking corrective action, the type of action that thirty
million Texans would demand, which is fire the professor, fire

(07:50):
the department head, get rid of the president, and stop
all LGBTQ and DEI classes, what did they do Instead
of taking the correct action for the taxpayers at tech this,
they tried.

Speaker 4 (08:01):
To threaten the students.

Speaker 5 (08:04):
They tried to coerce her into taking basically what I
think they concocted some kind of a cover up where
they tried to just coerse her into never returning to
that class again in exchange for keeping her current grade
so that the professor could continue on with her left
wing in doctor Nations, And then even worse in writing

(08:25):
I just released this this morning, they tried to suppress
the hidden camera footage that Texas A and M leadership
had known about, and it wasn't until I went public
with this yesterday that Texas A and M is now
engaged in revisionist history. They're trying to gas light Texans
into believing that they took the right kind of actions
and that they care about the student. They've known about

(08:46):
this since the summer, and the only action they took
was to try and punish, threaten, and silence this students
to cover up what's going on in the classrooms of
Texas A and and it is worse than the people
can imagine.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Okay, so we know we've I mean supposedly, there's already
laws that have been passed over the last several years
that are supposed to prevent taxpayer funded state institutions like universities,
for example, from pushing this kind of indoctrination.

Speaker 4 (09:12):
But it's still happening, which leads me. I mean, I
have to ask the question.

Speaker 5 (09:16):
But hang on, I got it so that what you
just said, Kenny, I got to comment on this because
this is what this is. This is conventional wisdom. You
just said. People believe they wait to say. Okay, hang on,
Texas banned DEI. Our legislature stopped a funding of transgender
indoctrination in public universities. You know why they think that,
because our governor, Lieutenant governor, the speakers of the House
have been saying it for years. Do you know the

(09:37):
truth of the matter, It's a complete lie. Every single
bill that has purported to quote end DEI or stop
the indoctrination of the next generation, every one of them
either does literally nothing to do that or has explicit
carve outs into the law to explicitly authorize DEI and

(09:59):
trans indoctrination if it happens in the classroom manter of fact.
Just this last session, just in the last eight months, Kenny,
I have filed fourteen separate pieces of legislation to at
a minimum, to stop taxpayer funding the de transgender indoctrination
in our republic universities and state agencies. Every single one
of them has been stopped by the Republican leadership of

(10:22):
the Texas government.

Speaker 6 (10:23):
So here are the facts.

Speaker 5 (10:24):
The governor has done nothing that actually has ended one
penny of taxpayer money going to DEIA transgender in doctation.

Speaker 4 (10:31):
In the classroom.

Speaker 5 (10:31):
The Texas Senate has chosen to fund every public university
and state agency engaged in DEI, and the so called
Republican leadership team of the Texas House has personally killed
all of my fourteen attempts to do what you think
has already been done, which is to ban the use
of taxpayer money to indoctrinate the next generation of DEI
and LGBTQ in doctrination. The Texas government may actually be

(10:54):
the biggest funder of DEI and transgender indoctrination in America.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
All right.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
I know that I hate occupational licenses, Brian. I think
they're pointlessness. So and I know technically college professors don't
need them. But in this line of you know they're
teaching education, these people actually do have occupational licenses.

Speaker 4 (11:12):
They're teaching education.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
I always wonder if that's something we should use against
the liberals and the leftist. If you want to go
out and violate law, then okay, you lose your occupational license.
If you want to protect illegal immigrants from ice deportations
at a hospital or a public school, maybe those people
should lose their occupational licenses.

Speaker 4 (11:30):
Is that a crazy idea?

Speaker 2 (11:31):
In this context, these people are pushing education, They're pushing
in doctrination that we've already outlawed. Why is why is
that okay? Why are they still allowed to have those licenses?

Speaker 5 (11:40):
What I will say, I hate occupational licenses too, but
as an aside to that, and where your head is,
the concept is right? And why is it only the
left wingers that use every tool available to right to
win the battle for the future. Why don't Republicans fire
with fire? And that's one of my biggest thing. I mean,
I've been elected, you know, I worked for President Trump
until twenty twenty one, got elected four years ago. Let

(12:00):
me tell you, Kenny, there is only one political party
in Texas that I have seen fight hard for the
future of this country in this state, and it is
not a Publican party. The Republican Party in Texas are
a bunch of weak, need, soft, feckless, hypocritical establishment Republicans
that are basically just empowering the Democrats and on occupational

(12:21):
licenses broadly, people are shocked to learn that Texas actually
has more occupational license regulations than every blue state in America,
including California and New York. The Texas government makes it
harder to earn a living than the government of California
or New York. But yeah, these educators so called they
got the government piece of paper, they got the government
stamp on it says you can teach these things. But

(12:42):
the problem is the president of Texas A and M,
in an audio recording, says that it's fine to teach
LGBTQ studies and that there are professional reasons to do it.

Speaker 7 (12:52):
And the president of Texas A and M explicitly says
we need to teach transgender in doctrination because we need
to train future school superintendents.

Speaker 4 (13:05):
That's crazy. Make this up.

Speaker 2 (13:07):
It's such a crazy thing to teach because it's not
like you can go get a job being a trainee
or whatever. It's like, I don't understand the LGBTQ study.
There really aren't any jobs other than teaching the stuff.
But anyway, I don't want to waste the whole segment
talking about that. Let's talk about this real quick. Earlier today,
Humble bragg I published an article about how Donald Trump
signed the Farm Act and that legal weed at least

(13:27):
you know, low grade THHC.

Speaker 4 (13:29):
That sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
That is certainly maga right, that's pro agriculture, it's pro America.
Most people would probably get agree with that.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
I was a senior member of President Trump's administration in
twenty eighteen when he signed that bill, and his President
Trump's chief of staff for the US Department of Health
and Human Services, I was intimately involved in all of
the issues surrounding marijuana, THCHC, CBD, et cetera. And the
Texas government. Shall we say is not the leadership of
the Texas government is not in line but with the

(13:56):
President's agenda in this area.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
No, they're not, especially Lieutenant dan Patrick. Last week was
mostly a win. I think you guys in aust not you, obviously,
but in Austin they passed a bill that is supposed
to outlaw the sale of, but not the possession of
the THHC vape pens. But other than that, nothing else
got outlawed. They didn't really change anything. Does that in
the next if there's a third session, do you a

(14:18):
special session? Do you think something will happen?

Speaker 5 (14:21):
Well, I've asked the governor to call us back for
a special session, but only to do the things that
the Texas voters want and demand for us to do.
Let me tell you what, I don't have one constition
down here and be like, hey, Brian, whatever you do,
go ban my Hemp shampoo. Okay, that's what matters to me. Okay,
I've knocked on the thousand of the doors. Let me
tell you about it. When I've asked people for their vote,

(14:41):
and as I campaign across the state, I have never
had one person like, hey, reversient of Harrison, I'll vote
for you, but you've got to make sure the Texas
government takes away the CBD gummies that I give my
dog and my cat. Yeah, I mean this is like,
it's nonsense. It's so if we're going to go back
for a special session, and I think we should to
deal with property taxes to cut spending and redirect all

(15:04):
of that, you know, all the big Hollywood subseason, all
that stuff, and put that to property tax. Really sure,
I want to go back to that, But if it's
just going to be to do more big government, progressive
nanny state fulk nonsense like the Hemp band and the
vake ban, I'm sorry. Over my dead body, am I
going to sit here silently while we turned Texas into

(15:24):
a progressive nanny state hellhole like California has become.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
You know, one more question for you and I understand
there may not be an answer to this, but if
there's anybody that could go up against Lieutenant Governor Dan
Patrick in a primary next year, Brian, I gotta.

Speaker 4 (15:37):
Think it's I gotta think it's you.

Speaker 3 (15:39):
You know you.

Speaker 2 (15:40):
You have become the standout lawmaker in the state. A
lot of people don't like you, and that's what makes
me think you're the right guy for it. Is there
any chance something like that could ever happen, Well, let
me tell you.

Speaker 5 (15:50):
I did not get elected to go down to Austin
and make friends with hacked politicians, lobbyists and liberal special
interests who could give a rat ass about protecting liberty
for my kids and the grandchildren of the great of
the people of the great state of Texas. And I
will tell you I am humbled. I mean daily, Kenny,
I am inundated with requests to run for governor or

(16:13):
for lieutenant governor. And the reasons I don't even think
it has much to do with me. It's like wrong
with Reagan. People would say, oh, he's such a great communicator,
and President Reagan would snap back and say, it's not
that I'm a great communicator, it's just that what I
communicate are great things, and I think for years, decades
in the state of Texas, hard working, over taxed Texas
are sick and tired of be in gas lit a

(16:36):
career establishment politicians that have been in power for too
long and go to Austin every two years, vote to
take more of their money, take away more of their freedoms,
vote to decrease their liberty so they can grow government,
steal more money out of their back pocket to fund
what is effectively the Democrat Marxist left, this agenda, and
they're tired of being lied to for so many decades

(16:57):
by supposed to Republicans. And then so I come along
after working for President Trump, and I'm like, holy crap,
what is going on down here? And what I thought
was the greatest, boldest, most republican government in America. The
reality is Texas has got a reputation for leading in
freedom and liberty and small government, low taxes, and low regulations.
We've just been coasting on that reputation for four too long,

(17:18):
and it's just it's past day and time we start
living up to it. I'm putting Texas taxpayers for us.
Who knows what that means for the future, But I'm
humbled even get the question.

Speaker 2 (17:26):
Hey, my man, if it happens, I know there's a
lot of people out there that support you. Stay Representative
Brian Harrison. Follow him on X get some honest information
about what's actually happening in Texas state government. It's pretty alarming.

Speaker 4 (17:38):
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Speaker 2 (17:47):
They claim the American Dream now cost five million dollars. Wow,
that is a lot of money to spend a night
with Sidney Sweeney. That's crazy. Hi, everybody, Kenny websterre welcome
back from break Stay Representative Brian Harrison was just here
and we're gonna do something a little different here for
the next twenty or thirty minutes or so. If you're
just getting connected to us. I am filled with in

(18:07):
a room with so much testosterone right now. This is
like if Hamburger Helper made testosterone. This would be testosterone.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
I'm JD.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Shipley in here, a brilliant author, personal trainer, strength training coach,
owner of Starting Strength Houston.

Speaker 4 (18:24):
Starting Strength Katie in the house right now JD. How
you doing, my brother?

Speaker 1 (18:28):
Right?

Speaker 6 (18:28):
I have to figure out what it is that I'm
gonna write to fill the brilliant author author's shoes.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
But I'll take it when I have a challenge. When
I look you up online, it says JD. Shipley, author,
Did you not know that? No, that's a thing online.
I've written one article for the Starting Strength website.

Speaker 4 (18:45):
Did you think I just made that up? I found
that online under awesome And.

Speaker 2 (18:49):
Then also here in the building right now, public speaker,
he does ted talks. I often refer to you as
a right wing environmentalist. But that's not fair, that's not
what It's not really fair. I'm I'm not Is that
all nuns? He's not a right wing environmentalist. That's crazy.
He's not an environmentalist.

Speaker 4 (19:07):
Well, I'm gonna know. According to the Kenny Jesse Henry,
you're my neighbor and JD.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Shipley, you guys are both actual friends of mine, but
you both do something really interesting, and the three of
us have something in common.

Speaker 4 (19:20):
I am a man, you're a man.

Speaker 6 (19:22):
You're a man.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
We all have this crazy radical belief that there's men
and there's women, and that's really it. There isn't seventy
six other things. That's kind of and that shouldn't be
a radical opinion. But because men are unique to women,
we have health needs that differ greatly than women do.
And this isn't one of those radio segments where we're
gonna try to sell you supplements or you know, testosterone
shots or I'm not selling T shots. I don't know

(19:44):
if you guys are, But if you do need supplements,
go to get the t dot comunses promo code WJ.
But but both of you have a very unique take
on health. We're all involved in the same strength training program.
I always describe it as it's a very elite strength
training program called Starting Strength by this guy named Mark Rippletou.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
Mark's a little controversial in and of his own right. Jad,
how do you explain who Mark Rippletou is to people
that don't know?

Speaker 6 (20:09):
Oh, my gosh, uh, Mark Rivetso is. So he's a
guy who authored the book Starting Strength. It is a
distillation of years of experience and he's let the data
kind of speak for itself. And I think he carries
out he carries he carries that mindset throughout the rest
of you know, what he does, He lets he lets
the data speak for itself, and he will adjust his

(20:31):
opinions if the data proofs prooves otherwise.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
During the pandemic, Mark rippletou on a national level because
he created this fitness program that's used in gems all
over the countries, he was considered to be one of
the original guys to say closing the gyms is a
bad idea. If this is a health epidemic that affects
the immuno compromised, not exercising is one of the worst
things that you could do. At the time, that was radical.

(20:56):
That was a crazy thing to say. Now that's what
everyone thinks. That conventional ways that most people would agree
closing the gyms during a health epidemic, telling people they
couldn't go to the beach. But at the time, you
guys at starting strength. I mean now even liberals agree
with that. But at the time, you guys got a
lot of pushback, didn't you quite a bit?

Speaker 3 (21:14):
What was that like?

Speaker 2 (21:14):
Did people criticize you or you attacked for it? Didn't
did anyone say anything to you?

Speaker 1 (21:19):
Uh?

Speaker 6 (21:19):
So we we we so we closed down because we
didn't know what you know, what all we were we
were going through and.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
You were legally allowed to or are required to. At first, right, yeah,
well so.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
And we we did it because we didn't. We didn't,
you know, we weren't sure what all what all this
was going to be. Then you know, quickly, fairly quickly,
we realized that, you know, there was more. There's just
more going you know, going on that that that that
closing didn't didn't make sense. And so we opened up
a couple weeks early, and we got we got one
message posted on our door that blamed us for some

(21:49):
for for that person's uncle dying.

Speaker 2 (21:52):
That So you guys, so you guys close opening your
gym caused somebody to die retroactively.

Speaker 4 (21:58):
That's amazing. How did that?

Speaker 2 (22:00):
How's that even possible? But now nobody disagrees with that. Look,
I have liberal Democrat friends who look back on it.
They're like, yeah, if only we knew now then what
we know now is like, well we did kind of know. Anyway,
I digress. This isn't about that.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
Jesse.

Speaker 2 (22:14):
You're interesting too, because five or ten years ago you
wouldn't have been considered conservative or right wing or anything.
But because of Bobby Kennedy Junior, because of the MAHA movement,
which a lot of moms and parents, and you know,
people that ten years ago, like Elon Musk, would have
been considered a liberal, now I'll find themselves on the
political right.

Speaker 4 (22:32):
But it's not even political right.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
It's just the idea that you don't want chemicals in
your food and drugs that are harmful.

Speaker 4 (22:38):
That shouldn't be political at all.

Speaker 3 (22:40):
Nothing about what Bobby Kennedy's doing is political.

Speaker 5 (22:43):
Now.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
I get how people you know that are concerned with
vaccines are concerned about what Bobby Kennedy's doing. But if
you look at what he's doing in food and agriculture
and the chemical sector and the pharma sector, most notably
reducing the amount of chemical and toxic exposure on everyday
goods and items, you can't argue that that's a bad thing.
And this was a liberal talking point I think five
or ten years ago.

Speaker 2 (23:03):
All Right, I agree with most of what you're saying,
but I've never actually heard of anybody who died from
microplastics in their testicles.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Explain please, So I don't think.

Speaker 3 (23:12):
The microplastics in your testicles might not kill you, but
they're definitely going to disrupt your endocrine system, your brain, chemistry,
and your gut.

Speaker 2 (23:18):
Biome, explain how it affects your brain chemistry is what
is plastic in my junk doing to affect my brain?

Speaker 3 (23:25):
So, by and large, one of the things that's destroying
our planet right now is chemical warfare, and it's a
war that's happening in silence. Most people don't really understand
that this war is happening. And so what's happening is
we're getting exposed to all these synthetic ingredients, and one
of the most common synthetic ingredients is plastics, and plastics
have been shown to disrupt your endocrine system. There's cancer

(23:46):
causing agents in there, there's neurotoxins, there's a lot of
chemistry and plastic. So it's not as simple as just
saying plastic is good for the world or bad for
the world. We wouldn't survive as a species if it
wasn't for plastic. Think about the base of Maslow's hierarchy
of needs and what am I consuming that might cause
the plastic ten up in my body. So inside every
plastic bottle of water, there's at least.

Speaker 4 (24:10):
This bottle of water that I'm drinking from right now.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
What as he's drinking right unbelievable why didn't you say something.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
Apparently at least two hundred and fifty thousand microplastics. Some
people who calculate nanoplastics say it's much much, much higher
than that, but I've lost count at this point.

Speaker 2 (24:28):
A right, Jesse, you moved to Texas at the beginning
of the summer so you could take a U so
you could do consulting work in the energy industry.

Speaker 4 (24:35):
To spare people a long winded story. And you were
my neighbor. You live across the hall.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
You were only going to be here for a few months,
and you and I started hanging out at some point
we had a lot in common politically, lifestyle wise, all that,
you know. Not gay, I guess, you know, play platonic neighbor,
good guy. Not there's anything wrong with the gays. I
just you know, Jesse and I dated similar women, you know,
lived as similarly. And I said to you, what kind
of numbers are you putting up? You're six foot five
in a amazing shape. And I was no offense, yep,

(25:02):
I was. I was a little underwhelmed by the kind
of numbers you were putting up in the gym, for sure,
And I said to you, if you started taking JD.
Shipley's strength training program Starting Strength here in Houston also,
and Katie, it was going to transform you.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yep, didn't do that. It ten xt anything that I
could have assumed to be beneficial for me. Now keep
in mind, I spent about, what you know, two years
of what I would spend at Planet Fitness in one
month of Starting Strength. But I was lifting the same
weight for ten years, and I was doing everything the
hard way. I was working out six days a week,

(25:35):
I was working out super sets. I was really stressing
my body. When I came to Starting Strength, they really
flipped the model on its head. So it's three days
a week. It's strength training, it's not weightlifting. So it's
really broke the paradigm for me. And over the past
five weeks, I've been able to hit numbers that I
thought were imaginary.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Jad, can you explain that what's it average between strength
training and weightlifting?

Speaker 6 (25:57):
So I will reclassify the The word weightlifting is as extra,
so so strength training is UH is UH the accumulator.
You're you're pursuing a physical adaptation, right, You're you're pursuing
a particular goal, so everything is oriented around that goal, right,
And and so for strength training, you we are we
are training for the increase in strength. So everything is

(26:19):
geared towards that. And the reason that we do that
is because being stronger makes everything else that you do
a little bit better. It makes conditioning it easier, It
makes it makes daily life easier. It makes you know, uh,
you know, the for the for the six year old
grandma who wants to get down on the floor and
with their kids, and it makes it easier for her
to do that and then get back up again and
may and as just as much as as it makes

(26:41):
it easier for the for the seventeen year old running
back to uh to hit the line you know harder, right,
it just makes perform at daily performance a whole lot easier.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
When people get older, they always have this idea, this uh,
you know, common sense to tell you you're not supposed
to lift weights when you're old.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
But that's the opposite of all.

Speaker 6 (26:57):
That is, that is exactly the opposite is actually the
people who are who are older, who have lost the
muscle mass, who've lost bone density, who've lost the you know,
certain physical capability, who need it more than anything else. Right,
you know, you can you can make the argument that
youth is wasted on the young. Yeah, right, and so
it's it's as you get older, you realize what you know,
what you don't have anymore, and so those are the

(27:18):
ones that those are the people that benefit even more
from from strength training.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
I will tell you, and I've made this point before
about starting Strength Dream, that it changed my life that
I started. I just coincidentally started on this program at
a time when I was dealing with some other thing
in my life that was causing me problems. And that
just you know, I don't believe in coincidences, and I
think God put me in this program right when I
needed to be in it, and it just changed me mentally,

(27:41):
physically on a molecular level. I'm going to tell that
story when I get back, and I want to hear
Jesse's story about how JD's program and just a matter
of a couple of months changed his life. If you're
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Speaker 4 (28:15):
This is remarkable. Apparently I was.

Speaker 2 (28:19):
Surprised by this. Hang on a minute, I'm hearing a
recording of myself in the background. There's a new study
that shows that cheerful music can help people get over
car sickness. So if you have a weak stomach, you
might want to stop listening to depeche Mode. I guess
that's what I took from this onceon. Hi, everybody, welcome back.
I'm Kenny Webster. I am here right now with two
of the manliest men that I know. Jesse Henry is

(28:41):
here from the MAHA movement. JD Shipley is here right
now from Starting Strength Houston.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
And JD.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
I know I've asked you this story before, but at
some point and just if you could give us the
cliff notes real quick. For those that are new, who
are you? What is Starting Strength? What is it exactly?
To those people in the Houston area or there's other
people around the country that have a Start Strength gym
in their city, they might not even know it.

Speaker 6 (29:03):
Who am I? I'm just some some random guy from Spring,
Texas that that opened a couple of a couple Starting
Strength gyms in Houston and looking to open more. My
mission is to help people get stronger, lead better lives
by by getting stronger, and what is starting strength. Starting
strength is a strength training method that is the simplest,

(29:25):
most effective method that that that that you can use
to to get stronger.

Speaker 4 (29:30):
And that's really it.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
It's about data. This guy, Mark Ripto figured out get
rid of all the shortcuts. When you see videos on
the internet of women doing aerobics with a bungee cord
or people wearing moon boots or whatever, that stuff's silly.

Speaker 4 (29:41):
It doesn't do anything.

Speaker 2 (29:42):
If you want to actually get stronger using data, using
analytics about your body type, how tall you.

Speaker 4 (29:48):
Are, how strong you are. Here's the fastest way to
get your numbers up.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
And I didn't lift weights at all before I started
taking your program three years ago.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
Now it's like a drug addiction for me. I have
to do it every week. Why do you that is
huh that is a good question. Dopamine Jesse. Yeah, it's
a playground.

Speaker 3 (30:10):
I it's it's like it's like you're you're tapping into
something and you're and you're you're you're you're getting off
in a new way. And I think men who look
at the gym as a playground in some place that
they want to go and they want to be those
are the people that will stay fit forever.

Speaker 2 (30:25):
Part of what's interesting about the program is that there
is no gimmick. The gimmick is that there's no gimmick,
and that's kind of hard to explain to people until
they do it, is like, no, look, this actually works. Oh,
it's just lifting weights. Well it's not just lifting weights.
Most people that lift weights are doing it the wrong way.
Can you elaborate on.

Speaker 3 (30:42):
That a little?

Speaker 6 (30:43):
I think most people, most people chase the pump, or
they will chase body part splits, and they'll they'll.

Speaker 4 (30:48):
Chase the pump.

Speaker 6 (30:49):
What do you mean? Uh so, if if you do,
if you do enough enough work on on like you know,
with a particular lift, your bodies will flush with with
blood and you know you'll you'll feel you'll feel a pump. Right,
you'll feel good. Yeah, and and that's all. That's all
well and good, but it but it's not. It's not
an indicator of success, right, it's good.

Speaker 2 (31:10):
Well, this is a little you know, me in a
point there and I don't know why. Pavlov's dog here.
You just reminded me of something. Forget me fugs again,
a little racey here for just a second, women have
reported that men that are in this program, how do
I explain this become girthier because of I can't think
of a tasteful way to explot that's true. Isn't it
that scientifically proven to be true? Men that don't have

(31:32):
a lot of testosterone, men that don't work out, men
that are soft all over, tend to be soft in
the places where it matters the most. Right, And that's
awkward because you're worried your daughters might be watching this later.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
But they're not.

Speaker 6 (31:44):
No, I mean, I've got I'm so uh yeah, so
when when I've oh god, my wife, my wife's gonna
kill me for saying this. When when I when I
first started the gyms, the gyms were never even a question, right,
I just wanted to see how, you know, I just
wanted to get stronger. And uh and I remember, I
don't know, it was working out two, three, four or
five months and and my wife says, yeah, things are,

(32:06):
things are better, And I was like, dude, I'm never
not squatting ever again. I'm gonna go squat right now.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Actually that just goes to show the the best way
to increase your testosterone is to lift heavy weights. Yeah,
that's it. There's there's no You don't need a bunch
of TRT. You need to go pick up heavyweights and
do it multiple times a week, and you know, it's
not like the TRT hurts. Maybe that's helpful to somebody,
but you don't need it.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
I didn't do that.

Speaker 2 (32:29):
I've met people in the program. Most people in the
program don't do it. I've known I've met a couple
of men that have. And that's that's okay, right, Like,
that's not a problem. RFK Junior does the TRT?

Speaker 6 (32:39):
Does RFK?

Speaker 2 (32:40):
I believe he does, and he's and he is terrified
of anything chemical related, and oddly he's okay with that.

Speaker 6 (32:46):
That's actually really good. It is a good point.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
My concern with the TRT thing is that once you're
on a synthetic it's really difficult to get off it
because now your body is reliant on producing that testosterone
through synthetic means as opposed to have That's what That's
why I like, I don't take a bunch of supplements.
I like going to the gym. I've worked out for
seventeen years and my weight was the exact same for
seventeen years until I joined this purpose.

Speaker 2 (33:08):
I take supplements I like creatine glutamine. I don't even
know what glutamine does, but if I don't get it,
my veins will explode.

Speaker 4 (33:14):
Don't tell me I don't.

Speaker 2 (33:17):
All right, So let's talk about this before we run
out of time here, Jesse, I talked you into taking
the protect What did you give us?

Speaker 4 (33:23):
Just what did you expect from it? And then what
did it actually turn out to be?

Speaker 3 (33:27):
Like, you know, I feel like the reason why people
don't succeed in the gym is one of two reasons.
They either aren't they don't have the effort, or they
don't have the guidance. And I was putting in the
effort for many, many years, but I didn't have the guidance.
I didn't have someone standing over me and saying, you
did a good job on your squad this week, We're
going to increase it five or ten pounds next week.

Speaker 4 (33:45):
Is such a scary.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
That's scary.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
So before yesterday's workout, I psyched myself out for fifteen minutes.
I'm like, I'm gonna go put three hundred and thirty
pounds over my back. Yeah, yeah, scary.

Speaker 4 (33:56):
And here's the end. So that what did you, So
what did you get out of it?

Speaker 3 (33:59):
Man, It's not just the amount of weight you lift,
it's the type of person you become on the journey
to lift that type of weight. I earned the right
to be able to squat three hundred and thirty pounds
yesterday or dead lift four hundred and five pounds yesterday.
I earned the right to get to that platform to
do that because I put in the work over the month.
And it wasn't just that I put in the work.
I had to ride my bike six miles each way

(34:20):
every single time.

Speaker 2 (34:21):
I did it because you don't have a car here
in Houston, and it's not exactly a good city for
biking around.

Speaker 4 (34:26):
But you did it and that helped too, didn't it?

Speaker 3 (34:28):
It did?

Speaker 2 (34:29):
It doesn't hurt. A little bit of cardio doesn't hurt you.
Guys have a bike in the gym. A little bit
of cardio is.

Speaker 6 (34:34):
Technically part of it, right, It's actually part of the
program later on as it evolves.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Really, so let's talk about this then. A part of
men's health is mental health. Yeah, and I think that
it's a cycle. You get better in better physical shape,
your mental health improofs your mental health improves you feel
like working out more. You feel like working out more,
you look better, you look better, your mental health improoves.
That's a part of this that you don't really know
how to explain to people until they try it. Right,
It's exactly right, Yeah, did it do that to you?

(35:02):
Absolutely right? So I started. I started because I wanted
to see how strong I could get.

Speaker 6 (35:07):
Right.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
It was.

Speaker 6 (35:08):
It wasn't it wasn't an aesthetic thing. It was more
of a capability thing, but it was. It was very
much a a uh maybe a selfish or not an altruistic,
you know, altruistic goal. I just you know, it was
something that I wanted to do for me, right there
was so I guess what I'm saying is there was
some vanity in there, right, And and the the further
along I I got into it, right, the stronger, the

(35:29):
stronger I got, the more, the more capable I was,
The more sure of myself I was, the the the
the just the more the more grounded I I guess,
you know, you can say I was. I you know,
I could where we're lifting heavy before was was scary, right,
you know, going into it. At some point it flipped
and and lifting heavy was just a standard thing that
I that I did. It's become normalized exactly, and so

(35:52):
it's just it becomes par for the course and right,
So the bodies of body is a system, right, so
the mental health is a is a is a system
all and it's and the physical sides of system all
in of itself. But like those systems, they play into
each other. So you don't get improvement in one without
the improvement in the other.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Jesse, you been in the program for a little more
than a month at this point, yep. So it's hard
sometimes to see your mental health change unless you look
back at where you were two or three years ago,
Like I was in a divorce when I started this program.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
Yeah, but do you see it?

Speaker 3 (36:22):
I do?

Speaker 6 (36:23):
I feel it?

Speaker 3 (36:23):
And I think one thing to note for men out
there is after you finish a workout, you always feel
better mentally and emotionally, and emotions are just energy and motion, right,
And so if you're a man that's sitting out there
and you haven't hit the gym in a while, this
isn't a means to shame you. This is a means
to say, hey, if you're not in a good mental
and emotional place, try going to the gym, try getting

(36:44):
a sweat, and try pushing yourself a little further, because
the best version of all of us is the version
of us that's stronger.

Speaker 2 (36:50):
One of our listeners on social media right now watching
us from the Roman Empire is a guy named Artemis,
and he says big legs not necessarily calves, quads, testosterone.
I don't know if he's right or wrong? Is there
what do you guys think about that? I believe that's true.
Those legs are the bigges muscle.

Speaker 6 (37:06):
If you make the if you make if you make
the muscle growth right, muscles, muscles are more than more
than just then just movers of bone. Right there, there
is a there is a gland effect like they will help.
They will help the rest of the rest of the
systems produce, produce what you know, produce what the body needs.

Speaker 2 (37:21):
Jesse, you move away from Houston on Wednesday. That will
be your end of your little experiment with starting strength.
I know you're going off to Canada and that's terrible.
I don't know are even he's weightlifting even legal in Canada.
I don't think it is.

Speaker 3 (37:34):
Depends if we make it the fifty first state of mind,
it might be that joke doesn't go over well.

Speaker 2 (37:38):
You ever see, if you're going to travel around, there's
Starting Strength at Florida where you live. You know, do
you see yourself doing this progress? Starting Strength in Miami
is very, very very far south. I definitely see myself
continuing with squat, bench, deadlift press as the main functions
of working out, and everything else will be ancillary. I
love it, man, JD you uh, you know You've got
these two gyms in Houston. They're very popular. The one

(38:00):
in Houston's almost only sold out. The one in Katie,
I'm told as a little more space, which to our listeners.
We have a lot of listeners out in Katie that
might they might actually be able to take advantage of that.
If people want to try this program, and I got
to tell you, and when I say this changed my life,
I mean it changed my life.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
Well, it's the best.

Speaker 2 (38:15):
It's the cheapest way to get one on one fitness training,
it's the cheapest way to transform yourself. It's the easiest
way to become stronger. If I'm not selling this, well,
I think the best thing people could do is just
come in and try it.

Speaker 4 (38:26):
How do they do that?

Speaker 6 (38:27):
Well, you know, So what I would say, if you're
in Houston, obviously, you know, if you google Starting Strength,
you'll find that you'll find the gyms. But you've you're
syndicated across as across the golf coast, and we you know,
we've got locations, you know, locations across the golf coast.
So wherever you're listening to listeners, right, if think google
Starting Strength, they'll find a they'll find a Starting Strength
gym in there, and you know, as close to their

(38:48):
area as possible.

Speaker 4 (38:49):
And people can take an introductory course for free.

Speaker 3 (38:51):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (38:52):
That's still a thing on anybody's website. You just go
to any of the starting Google or whatever search engine.
I'm not trying to promote Google, whatever search engine you
prefer to use.

Speaker 4 (39:01):
Doug, Yeah, Duc dot Goh, yeah that one too. I'm
gonna ask Jeeves guy. That's man. Okay, I'm a big guy.

Speaker 2 (39:08):
But I'll that being said, all search for the words
starting Strength in your city, you see if it's there.

Speaker 4 (39:12):
I think there's also an online thing.

Speaker 2 (39:14):
If people live in rural you know, Arkansas, and they
don't have a gym near them, they can still do
it that way too, right.

Speaker 6 (39:20):
I think It's important to note you don't have to go.
You don't have to train it to start a drink
gym to do the program. The program is accessible for
for for anybody that that has access to it, and
there's a fly plot right, yeah, exactly, or you can
you can start on your own. I would say, if
that's a question, there's there's coaches near you give them
a call, right get you know, get some sort of information,
get some hope, getting started, and get started. I love it.

Speaker 3 (39:40):
One thing that I find so interesting about this program, Kenny,
is like you you have a jack guy working out,
and then right next to them you have a single
mother of two or three. And then right next to
that person you have an eighty year old man. Yeah,
and you see an eighty year old man put a
bar over over his head, and because did you hope
for the world, because he's been in the proper. Don't
give up on their health when they're eighty. Dude, I'm
still pushing.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
I couldn't lift weights when I started this program. Now
it's all I want to do. We got a run.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
I want to thank my guest Jadi Shipley from starting
strength gyms. My buddy Jesse Henry from the MAHA movement.
If people want to follow you on social media, where
can they do that at LinkedIn? Just type in Jesse
Henry LinkedIn dot com for slash and Ford Slash Jesse
henrypisial And you do consulting for renewables and the chemical
industry and that sustainable chemistry, right.

Speaker 4 (40:21):
I love it. Hey, I'm Kenny Webster. I love you all.

Speaker 2 (40:24):
We'll be back bright and early tomorrow morning for more
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Speaker 4 (40:41):
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Speaker 6 (40:46):
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