Is the Secret Service woke?

This podcast edition of Kenny Webster's Pursuit of Happiness features journalist Ivory Hecker.  ( @KennethRWebster )

Episode Transcript

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big box store. They're gonna stopaccepting checks is a form of payment.
I didn't even know they were stilldoing that. My question is will Walmart
still accept goats and chickens as apayment? That's what I want to know.
Hi, Kenny Webster, you turnedon your radio to hear somebody talk
that. Somebody's me. I hopeyou're not disappointed. Don't worry. I

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won't make you regret it. Hey, a lot of questions in the wake
of last week's assassination attempt botched,assassinated, didn't get it. Fortunately not
assassinated, thank god. Donald Trumpmade a big appearance last night at the
first night of the RNC with abandage on his ear, and he announced
his running mate yesterday, jd Vance. This is a big darn deal.
This is a big root and tutebig deal. Who is this jd Vance

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guy? And and why was thatguy able to climb up on the roof
of a building in such a closeproximity to a president in an open air
for him and get a shot off, Like, how did he even do
that? I mean, i'd hehad a ladder and a rifle and nobody
stopped him. Local law enforcement tookpictures of the guy before he climbed up

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on you'd think somebody. We're gonnaanswer a lot of those questions today and
what happened to Tenacious D. That'snot what do you expect me to say.
Jack Black's comedy band may have justbroken up because of their fervor,
their TDS, their their Trump derangements, and we'll get to all of it
soon. Ivory Hecker will be myguest this hour. Do you know who
she is? Ex Fox Houston reporter, kind of a controversial young lady,

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and she has been doing a deepdive into the inadequacies of this secret service
in the aftermath of this tragedy.We'll get to all of it, but
why don't we start with this yesterdaythe humongous announcement the JD Vance is going
to be Donald Trump's running mate.He's a senator from Ohio working class guy,

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marine, IVY League, educated father, YadA YadA, all the generic
things you've heard about him. Butwho is he? Listen to Van Jones
of CNN describe who jd Vance is. You know, part of the reason
that jd Vance matters isn't for thesekind of short term electoral calculations. He
matters because of what he means forthe Republican Party long term. This is
cementing a kind of nationalism. Yeah, now, Trump, to your point,

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I agree with you. He's aninstinctive, impulsive, intuitive nationalist.
Jd Vance is an ideological nationalist.That's a much more dangerous virus. Because
he can make this He can polishthis stuff and make it seem past palable
to people. He can sell thisstuff to Silicon Valley, he can sell
this stuff other places, and whenit does, it locks the Republican Party

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on a pathway that I think isdangerous for the world. Again, the
Ukrainians are now in deep trouble,that NATO is now in deep trouble.
Trump is you get to go onwith a Nikki Haley and set them to
the world. Hey, listen,I got a gift stuff to my base,
but I'm not going to abandon theworld. This pick is a horror
on the world stage. Let's startThere's a lot to unpack here. Let's

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start with this. Isn't it fascinatingthat a liberal on CNN is upset that
the Republican presidential nominee didn't choose awarhawk to be his running mate. They're
very worried about this. I wondersometimes do liberals really do they really love
war as much as they say theydo, or do they just claim to

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love war because they know that theiradversaries, the Republicans, are now the
anti war party. Do you thinktwenty years ago, Van Jones and then
would have been upset that the Republicancandidate chose a anti war vice presidential running
mate. I mean, it wasreally different twenty years ago, wasn't it.

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It doesn't feel like it was along time ago, but it was
back in the two thousands. GeorgeW. Bush and Dick Cheney, these
two guys loved them some more.Donald Trump and JD. Vance couldn't have
been more different. This is acomplete rejection of that Republican party, and
now CNN News anchors are angry aboutit. How did we get here?

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You know, twenty years ago.I never could have been a Republican.
I was a fiscal conservative, Iwas a proud libertarian. I have been
my whole adult life, and makingno mistake, jd Vance and I we
are not necessarily ideologically aligned on allissues. But he is an intellectual Ivy
League educated lawyer, fought in theMarines, not a dummy. So maybe

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to some extent on that one point, Van Jones is correct. Is jd
Vance an intellectual? He is?Is Donald Trump an intellectual? Well?
What's an intellectual? Donald Trump isa reality TV sheld show, game show
host. He's a media personality.Is he a deep thinker that sits around
and stares at books for hours?I would assume probably not in the traditional

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sense. He's not an intellectual,but jd Vance is. But politically these
two are completely aligned with each otherin terms of policy positions. And that's
why the media is losing it overthe jd Vance pick. The left isn't
going to assassinate Donald Trump knowing fullwell that jd Vance becomes the president.

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Then he needed some help from evangelicals. He had to reassure some Republicans that
he could be the choice that isno longer the case. This is not
any sort of even somewhat moderate Republicanlike a Rubio or a Bergen. This
is full on maga. This ishis idy life heir apparents. This is
Trump and his team feeling very confident, very confident about where they stand in
this election, to allow them togo to Vance. It's also a push

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here to play on the economic populismand nationalism that has worked with Trump voters,
white working class voters, particularly inthose rust belt states that we all
believe will decide this selection. TheVance pick is one they believe. Ohio,
of course, no longer a battlegroundstate. It's pretty deeply read at
this point. But now, okay, hang on a second. There,

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Ohio is no longer a battleground state. I've heard a lot of people say
that, and that's just because ofcurrent polling data. You realize they still
have a Democrat senator. I don'tmean a state senator, I mean the
senator they send to Washington, dC. The guy who isn't JD Vance
is Sharad Brown. Do you thinkthat makes Ohio a deep red state?

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No? No, Donald Trump stillneeds to win Ohio. That's important.
Now he's popular there clearly right.That SoundBite you just heard, by the
way, that was MSNBC. Now, so now we've heard CNN and MSNBC
both react to the fact that jdVance is the running mate of Trump.
I want to unpack a little moreon jd Vance. Jd Vance hasn't always

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been a Trump supporter. In fact, guy wrote a hit movie. Did
you know that? You can watchit on Netflix. I'll tell you more
about that after this. In fact, for those of you that do know
about that, I have some moreinformation you probably didn't know about jd Vance.
Stick around Kenny Webster the best lookingdude on radio, and if you've
seen the competition, that's not sayinga whole hell of a lot. A

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man in Florida probably could refer tohim as a Florida man considering the gender
and location of the news. AFlorida man was arrested for exposing himself to
a woman in a Walmart parking lot. This is a violation of Florida law,
which clearly states you can only exposeyourself in either an RB's or a

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Low's parking lot. That was hismistake. You can't do it at Walmart.
Wait, I'm sorry I'm misunderstanding youcan. Oh, okay, never
mind. Sorry, Thank god Ihad my producer in my ear to correct
me there. I almost gave youthe wrong information. Say, kids,
thanks for turning on your radio.We have been learning a lot about JD.
Vance today and the way that theliberal media is explaining who Donald Trump's

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new running mate is versus who heactually is. In the last segment,
we picked apart some sound bites fromCNN and MSNBC detailing how JD. Vance
is like Trump but smarter and thatscares the left. You know. Interestingly
enough, Vance is one of Trump'smost loyal allies right now, but that

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was not always the case. Backin twenty fifteen, he wrote in a
text message to his former roommate,going back and forth, saying that he
didn't like Trump, even compared himto Hitler. Everybody at one point back
then was comparing Trump to Hitler.Is there anything in political discourse quite as
silly as comparing someone to Hitler?It's just so lazy. Anyway, For

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the record, he walked it back. Doesn't agree with those opinions anymore.
Did you know? In twenty sixteen, he published a book called hill Billy
Elegy quickly became a best selling book. Very well written, not shocking.
He's a brilliant man. And inthe book he talks about his less than
glamorous childhood. His dad abandoned him, his mom was a junkie. It's

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weird to see people talk about thatwhen he's on a talk show with him,
cause they'll say it to his facewhile they're all smiling, as if
that is some kind of an accomplishment. No, the accomplishment is that despite
those things, he was able torise to the top. In the book,
he takes readers through the struggles ofpoverty in rural America, the Appellation

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part of the country. I hada listener email me yesterday telling me he
was very disappointed the jd Vance wasthe running mate. And in the email
he said it was because he wantedTrump to choose a running mate who was
a redneck or a hillbilly like BillyEd, the one of my co hosts
on our morning show. In caseyou're not familiar with who Billy Ed is.
You know who Billy Ed is.And I I was almost confused by

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the email. I thought the personwas messing with me. You want Donald
Trump's running mate to be a hillbilly. Jd Vance is literally a hillbilly.
He wrote a book about being ahillbilly. The book got made into a
movie. You can watch it onNetflix and Ron Howard's the director. Some

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people really like it, other peoplehate it. It got a nod for
Best Performance by an Actress in aSupporting Role at the Academy Awards. You
know, the vice president think aboutthis. Let's say he gets elected.
The Republican vice president wrote an AcademyAward nominated movie Crazy Right. He's a

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senator. He served in the militarythat you've heard. He was elected to
the Senate in twenty twenty two,defeated his opponent Tim Ryan by about two
hundred thousand votes. During the campaign, he racked up the endorsement of Trump
despite his past remarks, gave himquite an advantage in the Senate. He

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has established himself with a reputation ofbeing particularly skeptical of foreign aid, specifically
to Ukraine. Oh yeah, that'snot supposed to bother you. I think
a lot of us probably agree withthat position. Why are we pissing away
so much money to Ukraine? Nobodyknows. It's a great question, you

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know, he's right to have thesepositions. He worked in a venture capital
group for a megadnor Peter Thiel maybeyou've heard of Peter Thiel, Elon Musk's
buddy. Both of them big trusand all three of them really hate the
government. I mean, all threeof them are very critical of the government
because the government's easy to corrupt.The government totally sucks your mother. The

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government totally sucks. Ben Franklin wasa rebel. Indeed, he locked to
get NATed. You Wally smoked onthe weed. All right? That's the
voice of Jack Black and his bandTenacious Deeed. That was the best.
That was easily the best segue Iever did on this radio show. I
am so proud of that. Jack. I want to talk about Jack Black

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for just a second. You're familiarwith Jack Black, the comedian. Jack
Black was as recently, I mean, I think it was less than a
month ago. He was booked tospeak at a Joe Biden fundraiser with Obama
and Jimmy Kimmel and George Clooney wasthere and they raised thirty million dollars.
A few days ago, my managercalled me and said, George Clooney and

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Julia Roberts wanted me to help outthe president and speak here tonight, and
I said, I him in whenand where and thank you? And then
they said, Jack, we knowhow busy you are. You don't have
time. Okay. He goes onto make a joke about how he wasn't
actually that busy because he was goingto be at a bar. Mitzvah.

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That's the joke, right, SoJack Black, what a fun guy?
Jack Black is. Jack Black isperforming on Sunday with his band right after
the botched assassination of Trump happened,and that was when his bandmate Kyle Gass
made a joke about how they wishedthat the shooter had better aim big dunk

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miss Trump next time. All Right, everybody laughs because it's a comedy show
and comedians say inappropriate things, andhonestly, I don't care. I don't
care that he said that, butapparently somebody cared. It's been a couple
of days since Tenacious Ded bandmate KyleGass wished to death upon Donald Trump,

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and Jack Black, a Joe Bidenfan and fundraiser for Joe Biden, has
now spoken out. According to areport at brightbart dot com In a statement
released on social media. The KungFu Panda star wrote the following He said
quote, I was blindsided by whatwas at the show. I was blindsided
by what was at the show.I think it means what was said at

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the show, I would never coldonehate speech or encourage political violence in any
form. And then came the bombshow quote. After much reflection, I
no longer feel it is appropriate tocontinue the Tenacious dtour. Okay, so
they're canceling the whole tour. Andthen he goes on to say, and
all future creative plans are on hold. Wow, all future anything making music,
songs, movies. He says,I am grateful to the fans for

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their support and understanding. End quote. So about twenty four hours after an
assassin missed blowing Trump's brains out,Tenacious D took to the stage in Sydney,
Australia to joke about killing Trump.Don't miss Trump next time. The
crowd laughed. As far as weknow, Black said nothing, and the
show went on. But then camethe well deserved blowback, right starting with

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a senator who called for a TenaciousD to be deported. An Australian politician
said Jack Black and his band needto leave the country right now. Again,
jokes are inappropriate, but they're jokes. I don't care that he did
this, but I'm just not shockedat the blowback. Jack Black has faced

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fierce blowback from his fans on Instagram. Some are demanding that he denounced the
statement. Others are defending him,asking people if he endorsed the assassination attempt.
People are writing Trump twenty twenty fourin the comments do you endorse murder?
They're asking him. People have saidthey lost all respect for the guy.

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Here's an interesting quote for I'm afan again, just someone on Twitter
or whatever, but it says,shame on you for supporting horrible comments endorsing
assassination attempts. A father who protectedhis wife and daughter, took a bullet
for them, has passed away.No comment of condolences for that family.
Just don't miss Trump next time.It's not even about the politics, because
I'm not a Republican. It's aboutsupporting murder and violence of a fellow human

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being. Lost all respect and I'mhonestly heartbroken. Loved you for many years.
Sorry, Jack, I'm out lookas a free speech extremist, violence
and murders usually the line right,but even still, I generally what's said
on stage at a comedy club.I try not to worry too much about
it, but this does beg aninteresting question. You know that old expression

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too soon? Well? Was ittoo soon? Right? Was it too
soon? I mean, at onepoint, comedians like south Park started making
nine to eleven jokes, and thoseguys are Republicans and they certainly don't endorse
death. On the show south Park, they addressed that the rule is ten
years, ten years after the agecrisis, ten years after nine to eleven,

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ten years after anyone dies. Iguess that's the rule according to south
Park. So Jack Black has apretty successful movie out right now, Kung
Fu Panda four out on tour inAustralia, they claim sold out shows,
and then his idiot partner did this, and Jack Black's reaction to it wasn't

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very smart. If you watch thevideo, after Kyle expresses his desire for
someone to kill Jack Black, excuseme, Donald Trump, Jack Black basically
says thank you. Jack Black andhis partner, west famous partner obviously didn't
understand that the world kind of changedon Saturday Night. It's no longer open

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season on Trump or Trump supporters,but people are very touchy right now.
I your favorite mid afternoon and hopefullymorning co host had one of these experiences
to myself. My co host SteveJohnson and I posted a photo on social
media of the two of us withwhite bandages on our ear while we were

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working, and we even jokingly saidthe bandages were available at Walton Johnson dot
com. You could buy them.They're not for sale, by the way,
on our website. We were makingfun of two things there. We
were making fun of ourselves for sellingso much merchandise online recently. If you
follow us on social media, maybeyou didn't know we're selling all kinds of
merch lately. So we were jokingaround a little making fun of ourselves.

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But we were also I don't knowif it was a joke so much as
a tribute pointing out how sometimes aftersomebody has endured a traumatic experience that has
left them physically altered because of setexperience, you can alter yourself too to
show solidarity. I think the mostobvious example would be sometimes people will shave

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their heads to show solidarity with littlekids with cancer. My only point is
in the grand scheme of things.My little joke on social media didn't really
matter, and neither did Jack Blacks. But boy, people are very tense
right now. Anyway. I guessall this is moot because I kind of
thought Jack Black stopped being funny along time ago, didn't you. Everything

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you've heard is a lie, well, unless you heard it from the mouth
of Kenny Webster. All facts,even the bit about is little Kenny.
Oh sorry, Brope, I meanBig Kenny. You're listening to Kenny Webster's
Pursuit of Happiness. Hi, greetings, everybody, this volume nob there we

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go. We're live on social mediaright now, where, of course we're
also live on the radio. Tothose of you're sitting in traffic. If
you're wondering why I'm reading comments frompeople, That's why I want to talk
a little bit about conspiracies and whathappened last weekend. We have a new
with three names. For some reason, assassins always have three names, like
Lee Harvey Oswald, but this timeit's a twenty year old. They claim

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working completely alone, that's what theysay. Never question the narrative. And
he's working completely alone and climbed ontop of a roof in full view of
Secret Service snipers and police. Multiplepeople saw him, including at least two
cops, one of whom took aphoto of him. A handful of rally
attendees filmed the guy crawling around onthe roof. Some people say estimate this

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was as long as thirty minutes beforethe actual shot was taken, from the
time when they first spotted him.And here's something else I can't wrap my
mind around. This twenty year oldis so politically radical he would attempt to
assassinate the guy that's probably the mostfamous politician on Earth. But weirdly enough,
oh my god, I almost forgotwe're on camera. I have to
adjust this so people could see me. There we go, Hi, everybody,

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greetings. Weirdly enough, never wroteanything on the Internet before trying to
assassinate Trump, never tried to nopolitical writings, no manifestos, and the
FBI, who happened to employ someof the best hackers on earth, can't
seem to unlock this guy's phone.The shooter never wrote a manifesto, he
didn't leave behind any indication about whyhe did it. His only political act

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before trying to shoot and kill themost famous politician on Earth was that he
registered as a Republican. Clay andBuck on our sister station KTRH claim he
registered as a Republican to negatively impactto vote in a primary, which you
know isn't the craziest theory. Butthe narrative the liberals have is that he
was a staunch, proud rye winger. Don't question it, and I'm sure

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we all agree when it comes toassassination assassination attempts, nobody ever conspires with
anyone. People always work alone,and we should never doubt that narrative either.
And this all reminds me of thatold cliche expression, see something,
say something. A lot of peoplesaid something in that thirty minute period,
and weirdly enough, the Secret Servicedid nothing. So it begs the question.

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Right, you'll be called a conspiracytheorist for asking questions, and I
have a lot of questions. SoI reached out to a very competent reporter,
somebody that I think has been prettymuch one step ahead of everybody else
on coverage of the Secret Services,for lack of a better term, inadequacies.
I am if they weren't up tosomething, if the point wasn't to

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get Trump hurt, then just howbad were these people at their jobs?
Here to help me answer that question, local independent journalist, reporter, social
media personality Ivory Hecker is here nostranger to Houston news consumers. I refirst
of all, thanks so much foryour time this afternoon. I have opinions,
right, and you don't. Yourjob is just the facts as a
reporter. I admire that I do. I'm curious, I've thoughts, opinions.

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Okay, let's start with this,because you have been keeping a list,
a laundry list of all the thingsthe Secret Service did wrong, and
I mentioned a few of them there, but I'm sure I didn't even touch
on all of them. Where wouldyou start with telling this story? Well,
you know, you can tell allthe social media videos that we have.

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You can time out when those videoswere filmed because you hear Trump in
the background, so you can lineit up with his speech where he was
saying what and so there's really compellingsocial media video that I'm sure you've already
talked about on your show where likea dozen or more attendees off to the

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side are shouting that this guy ison the roof and they're yelling at officers.
And if you sync that up withTrump's speech, that was two minutes
before the shots rang out, andthe shooter was still at the base of
the roof at that point. Andyou see in that video you see a

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police officer, at least one officerwalking around actually away from the shooter,
about circling the building. So officerswere right there. So when people are
shouting officer, you know that theyheard him. And then of course you
have this local sheriff telling the localnews that he had one of his police
officers up on the edge of theyou know, he's like, both hands

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were up on the roof. Hetried to get the guy. He pointed
his gun at him, and heturned around, and the officer ducked down.
And like, what kind of cowardiceare we talking about? Shouldn't the
officer engage the suspect and engage intoa standoff at that point? I mean,
you would assume that's what they're trainingto do. Now that being said,

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my instinct would be to duck.But you know, I'm not a
Secret Service agent, nor am Ia member of law any law. I
don't think they would have me asa member. For the record, Yeah,
but to your point, that's probablywhat they're trained to do, is
to engage, grab your gun,and pull back up right, and instead
he ducks completely out of there,apparently gets off the roof. The shooter

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goes climbs all the way to thepeak of the roof. Then, and
also, why isn't the officer immediatelycommunicating with Secret Service? You would assume
that he did, right, Andsome of the corporate news is saying,
well, they probably had different radiosignals, and why would the local police
and the Secret Service have different radiosignals on such a critical crucial event that

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they're assigned to. Yeah, whywouldn't or have a third so that each
organizations their own in order to theeach department as their own to communicate,
but then a third one to communicatewith each other. Yeah, and maybe
that's what they were Maybe that's theword they were doing, you know.
So that video is that that firstvideo is filmed two minutes before the shots
rang out. So it could bethat that officer circling the roof or circling

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on the ground was radioing to thein between guy who was radio to the
Secret Service. Because then seconds beforethe shots are fired, you see those
two Secret Service agents on the roofdirectly next to Trump, aiming at the
shooter, and there were CBS newsreports that two federal law enforcement people with

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knowledge of the event. Huh saidthat one of those one of those Secret
Service people on the roof was aspotter and one was a sniper, and
that they fired a single shot tokill the shooter, but they fired it
seconds after the shooter opened fire.Meanwhile, they were watching him for who

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knows how long before? Yeah,yeah, exactly right. They were watching
him for a while there. Sowhy thirty minutes is? Is that your
calculation as well? Do you estimateit was thirty minutes? That's a claim
a lot of people have made.Well Trump, I read that Trump was
speaking for thirty minutes, but theshooter wasn't on the roof for thirty minutes.

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It doesn't feel like I feel likehe was speaking for less than that.
But I don't know. I wassitting on my couch watching TV.
This isn't about me, but thisis, you know, this is anecdotal.
I'm looking at my phone, Ihave it on. I'm about to
leave to go do something. Wework with a charity group, and so
I'm just killing time, and allof a sudden, pop pop pop pop.
I'm like, that's weird, andI look up and see it happening.
But I felt like the speech hadjust started. And maybe I'm wrong.

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Other people had claimed the guy hadbeen walking around for thirty minutes beforehand,
So I don't know where people aregetting that number from. I could
be wrong, you know, I'mjust reacting to this like everyone else does.
Something about it doesn't make any sense. Now. That doesn't mean the
Secret Service was behind it or theywanted it to happen. But two things
that I can't ignore that can't wrapmy mind around this. They took Secret

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Service off the detail and sent themto Pittsburgh. There were supposed to be
more people there originally that day.They took them off, sent them to
Pittsburgh because Jill doctor. To me, doctor Jill very important. Doctor Jill
was in Pittsburg. Why did sheneed to be in Pittsburgh while he's in
Butler. I don't know, butshe had to be there that day.
That was very important. And thenhave you heard this? The kid is

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in an advertisement for Blackrock. Isaw the Yeah, that's definitely him.
Again, totally anecdotal, but apparentlyBlackrock. Blackrock pulled the ad down after
that was discovered. Yeah, whyis he in a flipping bat Blackrock ad?
Like? Come on, this isjust it stinks. So Blackrock happened
to visit his school when he wasstill in high school and he got to

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be one of the you know,background kids at the at the school desk.
Of course, that's a totally normalthing. I hadge fun comes to
your school and films that comer.Yeah, that happens all the time,
doesn't it. Right, But thattells us that he happened to connect with
very powerful people on the anti Trumppeople will just say that yeah, years

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prior and so could he have keptin touch with some of those people.
Yeah, it's a great question.It's a very good question. My guest
right now is Ivory hacker? Youwant to finish that thought? Any mean
to cut you off? Oh,I'm just saying. You know, here
comes into the theories of like washe orchestrating this with someone else? They
he he was indeed in touch withBlackrock. Video shows about two years ago.

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You can't blame so called conspiracy theoristsfor going nuts with the details we
have available. Hey, my guestright now is Ivory Hecker. If you're
not following her on social media,I assume a lot of you probably are.
She has a massive following on socialmedia. But if you're not,
you should. We'll be back todiscuss more of this in just a short
moment. If you're listening to uson the radio, a quick commercial break.
If you're watching us on social media, we'll be back literally in seconds.

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So hang on. Late last night, after a few beers, we
discovered the art of deceiving politicians.Just tell them the truth and they'll never
believe you. Kenny Webster's Pursuit ofhappiness. Hi, we're back. My

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guest right now is Ivory Hecker.You know her. She is a rogue
TV news reporter. I won't evenpromote the Garbage TV station. She used
to work at Garbage. What disgusting. I almost spit on Milton there.
Milton Friedman's here, by the way, my bulldog. Should we show him
on camera? People love Milton Friedman. If you're not watching us on social
media, come here, buddy,Hi, you want to say Hi.

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He's so cute he is. Icould do a whole show with just him
on camera. Hey, Bobba sayhi to everybody. Oh, it's this
camera, it's that one there.He is anyway, so cute. Yeah,
so anyway, he's here, andIvy's here as well. She's right
there, Andy, I read Doyou have a dog? No, I'm
I dogs sit sometimes, so Idon't have my own. Can I explain

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this on the air. You arebesides being a news reporter and a social
media personality, you're a musician.Yeah, I am. You play guitar
and you sing, and you talkabout God and stuff like that. I
write songs about God. Well,I wrote one about God, but most
of them are love stories. Idon't speak Spanish. But you listen to
the music of Bad Bunny and you'reinto Christian rock? Is this accurate?

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I like all genres, honestly.I was just telling you the most recent
ones that I added to my playlistthis week. I don't know a lot
about Bad Bunny because I don't speakSpanish, but I am told that his
lyrics are not Christian. Yeah,that's true. There's a lot of non
Christian music I listened to. It'spretty X rated. I'm told I don't
know what he's saying. I mean, I don't know. I don't know

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what he's saying. I have noidea, that's true. I don't really
speak Spanish. Yeah, I justlike the beat and things. That's well,
that's all you got to do,right, exactly? Okay, so
riddle me this. We're talking abouthow bizarre what took place last week,
and it was just anomaly after anomaly, statistical like, nothing about it made
any sense. It was like thenight of the twenty twenty election. You're

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just sitting there scratching your head,thinking that can't be right. The five
minutes ago we were here, howdid we get here? The bell Weather
counties and what have you. Butanyway, last week I didn't make any
sense. So now conspiracy theorists aregoing nuts for so many reasons. The
kid was in a black rock video, and yeah, how'd he get on
the roof? Why did he havea ladder? Why did anybody stop him?
I asked you an interesting question earlierbefore we started, and you started

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giving me a fascinating answer, andI made you hit pause on it because
I wanted you to say it onthe air. Everybody has a so called
conspiracy theory they believe in that theirfriends all think is nuts. And I
have a lot of friends who haveyou know, they think the moon landing
was fake or the earth is flat. Brilliant people with bizarre theories that they
and they could talk about it forhours and often and to put me to

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shame when I even cast out orskepticism on it. And I asked you
that question, what's a conspiracy theoryyou believe in? And your answer was
not at all what I expected.Can you tell me what you said?
Well, yeah, I was talkingabout faith and law of attraction and God,
and my conspiracy theory is basically lawof attraction, which is the same

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thing as faith, which is whateveryou believe in must happen. Whatever you
put your focus on has to happen. Oprah called it the secret, right,
Yeah, the secret is. Itwas like the first big thing in
media that taught people what law ofattraction is. But if you read the
Bible, which I'm a big Biblegirl, it it completely aligns with the

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Bible's description of what faith is.And actually I was invited to a conference
in New York and spur the momenta few months ago. While I was
there, they said, hey,I've read because I had briefly with the
host of that conference. I brieflymentioned this. He said, will you
come up on stage and talk aboutthis? I said sure, and we

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had a little debate about faith inthe Bible versus law of attraction, and
I explained how they're the exact samething. Sure, and anyway, they
never ended up putting that video outof my debate that I filmed it.
But why do you think they didn'tput the video out? Did you go
too far? Was it too radical? I think it was extremely controversial for

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a lot of Christians because they aretold to be wary of law of attraction,
and they don't understand what it is. All law of attraction is.
It's called a law that what youfocus on and believe in attracts to you,
which is exactly what Hebrews eleven saysin the Bible about what faith is.

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Anyway, I was just thinking tothe events of Saturday when Trump Trump's
life was spared, and it justseems like such a god thing what happened.
And in your heart of hearts,if you believe that you're doing the
right thing and that you are standingup for the just and the good,

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and the deepest, darkest part ofyour heart, if that's what you believe,
then you must be protected. AndI think that is what we saw
with Trump, is that I thinkthat it's really interesting. I'm a very
spiritual person, as you can tellsure, and I love Christians and I
love the spiritual community, even bothof them, though both of them hate

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each other. And I had thispsyche do you think they hate each other?
Well, they maybe hate is astrong word, but they're like skeptical
of each other. A lot ofChristians are afraid of the spiritual community,
and the spiritual community kind of frownson a lot of Christians. I didn't
know that. Yeah. Anyway,I had a psychic friend, she was

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my best friend going into the pandemic, actually, and we were talking about
Trump one day, and she wasnot a fan of Trump. She was
always leftist her whole life. Andshe said that she had taken the time
to peer into Trump's existence and readhis aura and was really astounded to learn

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it was the frequency of pure authenticity, huh, and that this man is
living in his higher self. AndI think back to that sometimes. But
I think authenticity, people say,is the highest frequency, and it just
attracts, It attracts people, andI think that's why there's something magnetic about

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Trump. But it's also authenticity meansthat you're living in what you believe in,
that you believe you're doing the rightthing. Yeah, I don't think
I agree with you that the shooterbelieved he was doing the right thing too.
Honestly, sure of course, becausewhat else you would have to believe
in yourself to climb up there anddo such an insane thing, Yeah,
to try to change history and knowingfull well you're going to die like nobody

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when do assassins ever live, youknow, and very rarely. I mean
surely the shooter saw the sniper's sitesaimed at him. Yeah, that sniper
was very prominent on the roof,actually closer to the shooter than then Trump
was to the shooter. But italmost sounds to me like the conspiracy theory
that you believe in is prayer orspeaking something, but it's faith. So

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uh, Trump had has faith Ithink in his mission and what he's doing
to such an extent that he's surrenderingeverything else. He surrendered his lifestyle,
he surrendered his safety, and he'sjust when when you enter this place,
to surrender with what you're going towardsyou get a level of protection around you.

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It's it's just the law of attraction. And so what happens in situations
like that is when someone tries totake you down, which is if you're
operating from a frequency of like revengeand trying to get back at someone,
which the shooter was as a lowerit's a lower frequency. So he tries

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to get Trump and it backfires.It's law law of attraction. It backsfires.
That it the attempt to destroy Trumpactually worked completely opposite in Trump's favor.
Sure, now Trump's more popular thanhe was on Friday, right,
And so had it been an inchto the right that bullet, he'd be

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dead inch to the left, itwouldn't be as big of a deal.
Because it grazed his ear. Itwas an insanely favorable publicity stunt for for
Trump just because of that that bloodon the air. Right, But it
wasn't a stunt. But I getwhat you're saying. But that's what people
think now. Well, it bringsus to another conspiracy theory. And a

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lot of my audience asks this,like was this all staged? It would
be pretty remarkable if it was stagedand made a ballsy move when he docked.
Did they put blood on his ear? No, but there's hundreds of
people in every direction watching, Itwould have been impossible, right. Well,
Actually, a New York Times photographerhappened to be photographing Trump's frame by

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frame, just snap snap steps,as it's happened, and he recently put
out his series of photos in order, and it shows, it shows,
as you know, you see thatone shot of Trump reaching for his ear,
Yeah, the second shot is themost compelling to me. The next
shot that the New York Times photographerhas is Trump's hand out his face,

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looking in shock at his hand,and you see blood strewn across his hand
in a split second, in aninstant of the book going, there was
already blood on his hand, that'sbefore he ducked. Then he ducks down.
So the New York Times photographer's imagesprove that this is not staged.
I mean, it certainly seems thatway to me. And isn't it crazy

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to think a lot of those photossomeday are going to be in history books
and teenagers are going to draw peniseson them. Not appropriate, but still,
I we got to wrap it up. I want to thank my guesst
Hacker for coming and if you're notfollowing Ivory on social media, you've made
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