October 28, 2025 • 9 mins
Live on the W&J Show - Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton sues Tylenol
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What if I told you that we knew a guy
that was actually going to war with some of the
big corporations that are poisoning your family.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
If you know him, trot him out here.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
All right, Well he's on hold right now.
Speaker 4 (00:08):
That's what I'm saying. Get him off hold, man. This
guy's important. He's got serious work to do.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton joining us right now. General Paxton,
thanks for some time this morning.
Speaker 5 (00:19):
Yeah, good morning, good day.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
You joined us right in the middle of some of
my coworkers here having an argument. But you have big
news to break. I'm excited about this. We really appreciate
you coming on today. You're announcing a big lawsuit this morning,
and you're going to break the news on our radio network.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
That is exactly right. We actually follow it late last
night and you're the first people we're talking to. I'm
glad to do it. We're suing Johnson and Johnson ken View,
which is a subsidiary or spinoff of Johnson Johnson, for
the distribution of tailand all without disclosing the potential side
effects of that medicine.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Okay, So, what has been claimed by Bob Kennedy Junior
and a handful of other people is that if you're pregnant,
you probably shouldn't be taking this stuff. And one group
of people that agreed with that was Thailand All back
in twenty seventeen. Back in twenty seventeen, Thailand All issued
public announcements they said, we don't actually recommend using any
of our products while pregnant. General Paxton, what do you
(01:19):
think changed between twenty seventeen and now?
Speaker 5 (01:23):
A very good question. I don't know if it was
profit mode. Usually it is, but we do know spun
off tailand all brand to another company, trying to avoid
liability and didn't properly capitalize the company they spun off.
Obviously they needed there was a problem, or at least
the risk of a big problem, so they spun it
off so that there would be no liability to the
main company, Johnson and Johnson. So we know that was
(01:45):
an issue for them. They just were trying to avoid
any type of liability to the people that were harmed.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Steve, you have adult children, and your kids are pretty smart.
I mean, one of your children is a doctor, and
you had pointed out to me when this news story broke.
I don't know what it was. Weeks a couple of
weeks ago, whatever, not long ago, that this wasn't shocking
news to anybody that was a parent twenty or thirty
years ago.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
People that have kids that kids my age kids or
even younger, they said, let's not news to me.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
At some point, the pharmaceutical industry just changed their mind.
As Attorney General, it really makes you wonder when else
this has happened. General Paxton, I will commend you because
you are also the reason that we got a lot
of the chemicals out of Morning Breakfast cereal, and the
MAHA movement has become big supporters of you. For those
that haven't been keeping score, this isn't the first time
you've done something like this. What are some of the
(02:33):
other lawsuits you filed.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Yeah, so we've also, as you mentioned, we went after
cereal manufacturers and we're still working on that to take
the dies out of ceial. We get a pretty good
agreement from Kelly to not do it anymore. We're working
on some of the others like post. We've also gone
after fluoride and especially for children's toothpaste because it potentially
causes some learning disabilities. We sued Eli Lily for deceptively
(03:00):
well actually bribing doctors to move to some of their
medications when maybe those medications were not the best medication.
So we're continuing. This is obviously has been inspired by
Bobby Kennedy, and we've caught on. It's a serious issue.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
All right.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
So in the meantime, your opponent, John Cornyn is spending
something like three million dollars a week, an absurd amount
of money to try to keep his position, and a
lot of that money is coming from the Senate Republicans Committee,
and I couldn't help. But notice next year there's a
Senate primary. There's a Senate race in some of the
midterm states Georgia, Michigan. I believe one of the Carolinas
(03:38):
is at North Carolina. And if we lose those races
because we spent too much money in a primary in
a red state like Texas, I mean, I guess it's obvious,
but that's kind of John Corning's fault.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Isn't it It is? And not only that, I think
it's a deceptive trade practice week. I mean, I think
they've violated our state laws because they go to donors
and tell them, Republican donors, we're going to use this
money against Democrats and then they go and raise the money,
and now they're spending three million dollars a week. We're
talking potentially sixty seventy million dollars against a conservative Republican.
(04:10):
They didn't help their donors, that they misled their donors,
which is a violation of our charitable laws, as the
violation of our decepts trade practices. They are probably breaking
laws in every single state. And unfortunately this is a
Republican Senatorial Committee and others like them that are doing
the exact same thing. It's wrong and they need to stop.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Somebody ought to run against this cornn guy and get
him out of there.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
That's kind of.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
That is absolutely what we need to do, isn't.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
It's I can't help, but notice Cornyn's pulling numbers right
now are worse than iOS Senator Jony Ernst, whose pulling
numbers are so bad she's decided not to run again.
I have friends in Austin and Washington, DC who don't
know each other, who have recently seen John Cornyn and
told me he looks unhealthy, he's limping, he's aged a
(04:58):
lot in six years. Are they the only ones that
are saying this? A lot of people must be noticing this, right.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
I think it's pretty evident. It's you know, when you've
been there, when you've been in office for forty years,
literally since I was in college, and I'm sixty two,
it's time to go home, especially when you haven't haven't
delivered on anything. I've asked people all of the state
since April eighth. I've asked every single group I believe
this question. Can you name one remarkable thing that John
Corny has accomplished, either as a state district judge Supreme
(05:27):
Court judge, other than pushing robinhood on us through a
judicial opinion. Can you name anything that he did as
attorney general or a center that is remarkable? And so
far that answer has been nothing from anybody.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Got nothing for you.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, I noticed when the other candidate, Wesley Hunt announced
his candidacy, you welcomed him to the race. John Cornyan
immediately launched attack ads against the guy. I can't help
but think that that's a pretty good sign here that
John Cornan knows he's going to come in third place.
But you know, I'm I'm not always right about this stuff,
but usually am.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Well, there's no doubt he's got to worry about that
that you know, he has no base of support, and
that happens when you don't deliver to your constituents over
a four decade period, they don't have any reason to
support to you. There's no there's no defining issue for
him other than negative issues like helping Joe Biden, you know,
pass gun restrictions on our Second Amendment rights, or fighting
(06:23):
the border wall and claiming now that he's for it,
or fighting Trump does re election, but now he's for Trump,
so he's having to be very dishonest about his positions.
I wish you'd just be honest and say, you know what,
I didn't like Trump. I didn't like him too, That's
why I don't like Trump. I'm against him. But now
suddenly the magic has occurred and he's reading Trump's books
and he's standing in front of Trump, you know, Burger joints.
(06:45):
So it's pretty crazy what he's had to do to
make it. It's just ridiculous, and it's actually pathetic.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
He has a calendar, he knows when the election's coming up.
That's when he changes his position on things so he
can get elected again.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Ironically, that Trump Burger joins down the street.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
From here.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
We found out it was owned by an illegal immigrant
and they closed it. But hey, before we run out
of time here, you also launched an investigation targeting a
group called Love Austin pack and its affiliate foundation communities
over the weekend, basically what Texas Scorecard described as a
scheme to raise property.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Taxes through Austin. I know we're in Houston.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I know we have listeners in Dallas and Waco right now,
and Texarcana and Tyler, and I feel like this is
something that's happening in other places in the state.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Aren't you mentioned Corpus Yeah, well Corpus Christy.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
We love the corpse. I would never we love our
listeners in Corpus Christy. Am I crazy to think that
this is happening in a lot of big cities. I mean,
I'm glad you're targeting this group in Austin, but what
they're doing sounds oddly familiar to me.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Yes, and it is. It is happening all of the state,
not just in big cities, but even small towns are
on the state that we've looked at we're investigating. It's
pretty pathetic. I mean, people by by their houses contemplating
a certain mortgage rate, a certain relatively stable insurance right,
and a stable property tax. And what they get is
these local jurisdictions, these appraisal districts which are controlled by
(08:07):
the school districts and the cities and counties that will
sneak in and try to raise their property taxes. So
it makes it virtually impossible for them to ever make
money in their house. And if they don't pay the government,
they lose their house. We're all renters, and these government
entities are jacking up prices well beyond inflation and well
beyond what they're allowed to by the law. It's wrong
and it's unfortunate that we're having to take these these
(08:30):
people that are elected on to stop violating state law.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
All Right, I know this is going to be a
touchy question because this is very controversial right now for
our listeners in Waco, But any thoughts on how the
Baylor Bears are doing right now?
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Well, I wish they were doing better. I was at
the TCU game, which I hoped they would win. That
was kind of a defining game as to which way
TCU is going to go which way Baylor, and obviously
TCU won that game handily. At the end. And so
I'll be at Baylor homecoming this week rooting for them
against the University of Central Florida. So hopefully we can
turn it around, and I'm still slightly optimistic about it.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I love homecoming. Isn't that fun?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
General Paxton, As always, we appreciate your time this morning.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Sarah, God bless and God bless Texas. Brother.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
All Right, you guys have a great day. Thanks for
having me.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
This is The Walton and Johnson Show.
What if I told you that we knew a guy
that was actually going to war with some of the
big corporations that are poisoning your family.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
If you know him, trot him out here.
Speaker 3 (00:07):
All right, Well he's on hold right now.
Speaker 4 (00:08):
That's what I'm saying. Get him off hold, man. This
guy's important. He's got serious work to do.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton joining us right now. General Paxton,
thanks for some time this morning.
Speaker 5 (00:19):
Yeah, good morning, good day.
Speaker 1 (00:21):
You joined us right in the middle of some of
my coworkers here having an argument. But you have big
news to break. I'm excited about this. We really appreciate
you coming on today. You're announcing a big lawsuit this morning,
and you're going to break the news on our radio network.
Speaker 5 (00:36):
That is exactly right. We actually follow it late last
night and you're the first people we're talking to. I'm
glad to do it. We're suing Johnson and Johnson ken View,
which is a subsidiary or spinoff of Johnson Johnson, for
the distribution of tailand all without disclosing the potential side
effects of that medicine.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
Okay, So, what has been claimed by Bob Kennedy Junior
and a handful of other people is that if you're pregnant,
you probably shouldn't be taking this stuff. And one group
of people that agreed with that was Thailand All back
in twenty seventeen. Back in twenty seventeen, Thailand All issued
public announcements they said, we don't actually recommend using any
of our products while pregnant. General Paxton, what do you
(01:19):
think changed between twenty seventeen and now?
Speaker 5 (01:23):
A very good question. I don't know if it was
profit mode. Usually it is, but we do know spun
off tailand all brand to another company, trying to avoid
liability and didn't properly capitalize the company they spun off.
Obviously they needed there was a problem, or at least
the risk of a big problem, so they spun it
off so that there would be no liability to the
main company, Johnson and Johnson. So we know that was
(01:45):
an issue for them. They just were trying to avoid
any type of liability to the people that were harmed.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
Steve, you have adult children, and your kids are pretty smart.
I mean, one of your children is a doctor, and
you had pointed out to me when this news story broke.
I don't know what it was. Weeks a couple of
weeks ago, whatever, not long ago, that this wasn't shocking
news to anybody that was a parent twenty or thirty
years ago.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
People that have kids that kids my age kids or
even younger, they said, let's not news to me.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
At some point, the pharmaceutical industry just changed their mind.
As Attorney General, it really makes you wonder when else
this has happened. General Paxton, I will commend you because
you are also the reason that we got a lot
of the chemicals out of Morning Breakfast cereal, and the
MAHA movement has become big supporters of you. For those
that haven't been keeping score, this isn't the first time
you've done something like this. What are some of the
(02:33):
other lawsuits you filed.
Speaker 5 (02:36):
Yeah, so we've also, as you mentioned, we went after
cereal manufacturers and we're still working on that to take
the dies out of ceial. We get a pretty good
agreement from Kelly to not do it anymore. We're working
on some of the others like post. We've also gone
after fluoride and especially for children's toothpaste because it potentially
causes some learning disabilities. We sued Eli Lily for deceptively
(03:00):
well actually bribing doctors to move to some of their
medications when maybe those medications were not the best medication.
So we're continuing. This is obviously has been inspired by
Bobby Kennedy, and we've caught on. It's a serious issue.
Speaker 3 (03:15):
All right.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
So in the meantime, your opponent, John Cornyn is spending
something like three million dollars a week, an absurd amount
of money to try to keep his position, and a
lot of that money is coming from the Senate Republicans Committee,
and I couldn't help. But notice next year there's a
Senate primary. There's a Senate race in some of the
midterm states Georgia, Michigan. I believe one of the Carolinas
(03:38):
is at North Carolina. And if we lose those races
because we spent too much money in a primary in
a red state like Texas, I mean, I guess it's obvious,
but that's kind of John Corning's fault.
Speaker 5 (03:50):
Isn't it It is? And not only that, I think
it's a deceptive trade practice week. I mean, I think
they've violated our state laws because they go to donors
and tell them, Republican donors, we're going to use this
money against Democrats and then they go and raise the money,
and now they're spending three million dollars a week. We're
talking potentially sixty seventy million dollars against a conservative Republican.
(04:10):
They didn't help their donors, that they misled their donors,
which is a violation of our charitable laws, as the
violation of our decepts trade practices. They are probably breaking
laws in every single state. And unfortunately this is a
Republican Senatorial Committee and others like them that are doing
the exact same thing. It's wrong and they need to stop.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Somebody ought to run against this cornn guy and get
him out of there.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
That's kind of.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
That is absolutely what we need to do, isn't.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
It's I can't help, but notice Cornyn's pulling numbers right
now are worse than iOS Senator Jony Ernst, whose pulling
numbers are so bad she's decided not to run again.
I have friends in Austin and Washington, DC who don't
know each other, who have recently seen John Cornyn and
told me he looks unhealthy, he's limping, he's aged a
(04:58):
lot in six years. Are they the only ones that
are saying this? A lot of people must be noticing this, right.
Speaker 5 (05:05):
I think it's pretty evident. It's you know, when you've
been there, when you've been in office for forty years,
literally since I was in college, and I'm sixty two,
it's time to go home, especially when you haven't haven't
delivered on anything. I've asked people all of the state
since April eighth. I've asked every single group I believe
this question. Can you name one remarkable thing that John
Corny has accomplished, either as a state district judge Supreme
(05:27):
Court judge, other than pushing robinhood on us through a
judicial opinion. Can you name anything that he did as
attorney general or a center that is remarkable? And so
far that answer has been nothing from anybody.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
Got nothing for you.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Yeah, I noticed when the other candidate, Wesley Hunt announced
his candidacy, you welcomed him to the race. John Cornyan
immediately launched attack ads against the guy. I can't help
but think that that's a pretty good sign here that
John Cornan knows he's going to come in third place.
But you know, I'm I'm not always right about this stuff,
but usually am.
Speaker 5 (06:02):
Well, there's no doubt he's got to worry about that
that you know, he has no base of support, and
that happens when you don't deliver to your constituents over
a four decade period, they don't have any reason to
support to you. There's no there's no defining issue for
him other than negative issues like helping Joe Biden, you know,
pass gun restrictions on our Second Amendment rights, or fighting
(06:23):
the border wall and claiming now that he's for it,
or fighting Trump does re election, but now he's for Trump,
so he's having to be very dishonest about his positions.
I wish you'd just be honest and say, you know what,
I didn't like Trump. I didn't like him too, That's
why I don't like Trump. I'm against him. But now
suddenly the magic has occurred and he's reading Trump's books
and he's standing in front of Trump, you know, Burger joints.
(06:45):
So it's pretty crazy what he's had to do to
make it. It's just ridiculous, and it's actually pathetic.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
He has a calendar, he knows when the election's coming up.
That's when he changes his position on things so he
can get elected again.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Ironically, that Trump Burger joins down the street.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
From here.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
We found out it was owned by an illegal immigrant
and they closed it. But hey, before we run out
of time here, you also launched an investigation targeting a
group called Love Austin pack and its affiliate foundation communities
over the weekend, basically what Texas Scorecard described as a
scheme to raise property.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Taxes through Austin. I know we're in Houston.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
I know we have listeners in Dallas and Waco right now,
and Texarcana and Tyler, and I feel like this is
something that's happening in other places in the state.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Aren't you mentioned Corpus Yeah, well Corpus Christy.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
We love the corpse. I would never we love our
listeners in Corpus Christy. Am I crazy to think that
this is happening in a lot of big cities. I mean,
I'm glad you're targeting this group in Austin, but what
they're doing sounds oddly familiar to me.
Speaker 5 (07:44):
Yes, and it is. It is happening all of the state,
not just in big cities, but even small towns are
on the state that we've looked at we're investigating. It's
pretty pathetic. I mean, people by by their houses contemplating
a certain mortgage rate, a certain relatively stable insurance right,
and a stable property tax. And what they get is
these local jurisdictions, these appraisal districts which are controlled by
(08:07):
the school districts and the cities and counties that will
sneak in and try to raise their property taxes. So
it makes it virtually impossible for them to ever make
money in their house. And if they don't pay the government,
they lose their house. We're all renters, and these government
entities are jacking up prices well beyond inflation and well
beyond what they're allowed to by the law. It's wrong
and it's unfortunate that we're having to take these these
(08:30):
people that are elected on to stop violating state law.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
All Right, I know this is going to be a
touchy question because this is very controversial right now for
our listeners in Waco, But any thoughts on how the
Baylor Bears are doing right now?
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Well, I wish they were doing better. I was at
the TCU game, which I hoped they would win. That
was kind of a defining game as to which way
TCU is going to go which way Baylor, and obviously
TCU won that game handily. At the end. And so
I'll be at Baylor homecoming this week rooting for them
against the University of Central Florida. So hopefully we can
turn it around, and I'm still slightly optimistic about it.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I love homecoming. Isn't that fun?
Speaker 1 (09:12):
General Paxton, As always, we appreciate your time this morning.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Sarah, God bless and God bless Texas. Brother.
Speaker 5 (09:17):
All Right, you guys have a great day. Thanks for
having me.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
This is The Walton and Johnson Show.
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