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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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is libery.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Rise at food China. China is building the world's biggest telescope.
It will be used to find the average cyber truck
drivers junk. I'm kidding. Hi, everybody, it's me, Thanks for
joining us. It's a Friday. It's good to be here.
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Michael quinn Sullivan is joining us. Just a little bit.
Something else we're gonna do today on the show. We're
gonna shoot non lethal self defense palettes filled with mace,
apparently at someone. It's called burna. Maybe you've heard about this.
A buddy of mine that invented this stuff. They're pepperballs.
He's gonna come in and show us how it works.
(00:55):
It should be interesting. We're gonna shoot people today live
on the show. Sort of stick Okay, so that won't
be quite that dramatic, but we are going to do
a live demo of it on social media, so hang
around for that. He'll be here shortly. That should be
a lot of fun. Before we get to any of
that redistricting. That's all people can talk about today. Texas
signed a new congressional map to redistrict, then California did it.
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Then Missouri appears likely to redraw their congressional day. Everybody's redistricting.
What's it going to amount to? Probably nothing in the end.
If everyone does it, it probably won't change that much at
the end of the day. But remember why we needed
to do this. Biden flooded the country with illegal immigrants.
He did it for a reason. Obviously, lawlessness is something
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that left celebrates, because, after all, if they can prove
to everybody that society's dangerous, then they must need to
take away your guns. Right, there's dangerous criminals out there.
You wouldn't want them to get their hands on firearms
and shoot someone, never mind the fact that you need
those firearms to defend your own family. And of course
that's not even the point of the firearms to begin with.
It's to stop a foreign invasion. But I digress. Miranda
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Devine recently pointed out, we know that the Biden administration
deliberately broke the border. Biden and his team, well, not
so much Biden, but his team ushered in over twenty
million illegal aliens, and they did it at a huge
cost to the nation's social welfare system. They did it
with a reckless disregard for potential criminality and terrorism. Exactly
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why it did it has always been the burning question.
Rasmusen just knew. Did a new poll, and it gave
us a good clue. It's the census. There's mounting evidence
that the Biden administration tried to cook the books to
give Democrats an unfair advantage, which explains why a minority
of Democrats forty three percent compared to eighty three percent
of Republicans approve of Trump's decision to take a new
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census that excludes illegal aliens from the population count. Illegal
migrants have always been included in the census. So blue
states like California, Texas, New York, and New Jersey. All right,
Texas not really a blue state, but you get the rest.
They bore the Brent to Biden's influx. They get increased representation,
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which means more congressional seats for Democrats, more Electoral College
votes for Democrats, more funding for Democrats. Meanwhile, those Democrat
proxy NGOs, those are your non government organizations, the nonprofit groups.
They get to do whatever they want without government oversights,
still using your money though. They were registering these illegal
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aliens to vote even though they're not eligible, and they're
not the only ones. FEMA did it, Various federal agencies
under Biden did it. That's why Democrats fought tooth and
nail to prevent voter id so that ineligible non voters
could vote. Further down the track. They figured that maybe
a little amnesty would net them tens of millions of
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new Democratic voters at least for a generation or so.
But that was just the icing on the cake. The
Census was the immediate payoff. Don't care how many illegal
aliens raped, murdered, robbed, extorted, didn't matter. They didn't care
that the social safety net in cities like New York
were collapsing under the weight of all these all these
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new citizens or non citizens. Slave labor wages that undercut
American workers only make sense if the state picks up
the cost of room and board and healthcare for the slaves.
It was the census that would give Democrats more power,
and in April twenty twenty one, when the Biden Commerce
Secretary Jeena Raimondo announced the twenty twenty census results, we
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started to see errors that mostly only went one way. Huh,
what a coincidence? So red states like Florida and Mississippi
and Arkansas and Tennessee and of course Texas were under counted,
while blue states like New York and Massachusetts and Rhode
Island and Minnesota and Biden's home state of Delaware were overcounted.
And that skewed political representation, and it skewed funding allocation,
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and they got everything they wanted and we didn't the miscounts,
particularly given that overrepresentation appears to have tended to noticeably
skew in favor of one political party over the other.
Demands additional scrutiny, scrutiny of potential political influence by Biden
and Kamala ras Musen teased out public attitudes to these
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errors with a poll of eleven hundred eighty four likely
voters conducted from August eleventh to the thirteenth. So what
did they find? What they found was that just thirty
seven percent of Democrats that illegal immigrants should not be
counted in the census, while forty nine percent said they should.
The remaining thirteen percent didn't understand what a census was.
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By contrast, sixty five percent of Republicans wanted illegal aliens excluded. Weirdly,
twenty nine percent wanted them to be counted, not sure why.
On the question of Trump ordering a new census to
replace the error ridden twenty twenty pandemic version, fifty seven
percent of voters approved, while thirty four percent said nay.
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Of those, a wopping eighty three percent of Republicans were
in favor, compared to forty three percent of Democrats. The
fact is, even before these investigations were being conducted, before
all the evidence was in, Democratic voters instinctively knew that
the census hoax benefited their side. Well, not thirteen percent
of them. They still don't know what a census is.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
According to a new report, exaggerated statements are up by
like a billion percent and now more. Of the highest
rated show on radio, Kenny Webster's Pursuit of Happiness.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
I every day I wake up and I am so
bothered by what I see in the news. Petco, the
pet store. Petco is now selling products for humans. Apparently
they're servicing people who like callers and chains and harness it.
(07:01):
You know, Democrats, Hi, everybody welcome back from break. Yeah,
I don't. It's gross, right, it's very discussed. Don't go
to pet Co aty I guess pat Smart's the place
to go now. I just need to get dog food
for my bulldog. I don't want to be around any
weirdos or creeps or freaks. Well, the good news is,
at the very least sometime in the near future here,
(07:22):
while you're getting checked out at Petco, it might be
Dade Falen who's ringing you up. The former Texas House
Speaker Dave Palen, made a big announcement yesterday he will
not run for reelection. Apparently he even got Chuck Norris
to make the announcement for him on social media. I
don't think Chuck Norris knew who the guy was that
he was making the announcement for. Is this one of
those things where you could pay someone on cameo to
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do it for you?
Speaker 4 (07:44):
You know?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
That is the website where no offense to Chuck Norris,
but be with celebrities tell you things like happy birthday,
Mom or whatever. Dade Fallen, the Beaumont Republican, has been
around since twenty fourteen, two terms a Speaker of the House.
His tenure was marked by deep division, according to Texas
scorecard dot Com. Here with his insight, my buddy, Michael
quinn Sullivan, Michael, I can't help but think even though
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he's going away on his own terms or whatever, it
was a lot of stone throwing figuratively speaking from yours
truly and uh my favorite news website, Texas scorecard dot
Com that might have contributed to Dade Philin stepping away.
Speaker 4 (08:21):
Let's be very clear to do. I do not correct
I don't like correcting you. I don't like correcting. I
don't like correct you. You're you're a wonderful friend. You're
clear thinking in But Kenny Webster, shame on you. He's
not walking away on his own. No politician walks away
on their.
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Own, Sir.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
A lot of guy like Dave Feelin, Make no mistake,
Dad Feelin is leaving before he is kicked out. He was.
He barely scraped by winning re election last session by
having millions and millions and millions and millions of dollars
dumped into a state rep. District in which he barely won.
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He barely squeaked by more than two thousand Democrat voters
switched switch their primary voting to vote in that election,
and he only won by about six hundred votes. That
is the deficit that he had with Republican voters in
that district. Now, as the not Speaker, Dade Feeling, those
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that once again, you know, those same people still don't
like him.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
They're turning out.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
He's not going to be able to try out those
Democrats in this cycle. They have their own primary with
a whole lot of things going on. They're not going
to be able to play games to help Daid Feeling,
who's no longer the speaker. He knows he's not going
to win. He's not going to win. He is not
going to win, and so what did he do rather
than lose? He decided to leave. So he's not leaving
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of his own volition, He's leaving because he knows. He
knows he was going to lose. In March twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Six, if we gave this radio segment a name, I
think it would be called the death of the Neocon
movement because Dade Falin's going away. John Cornyn. The polling
numbers are abysmal early this number. Late last night on
social media, people started sharing polling numbers that said in
a two way match, Colin Alred, the Democrat from the
Dallas Fort Worth area, would beat Ken Paxton by two points.
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And then by early this morning, most people on social
media on x on Twitter already knew that polling data
that said Colin Alred would beat Ken Paxton in a
Senate race originated from Colin Allred's people. They're the ones
that compiled the polling data. It was bs, it was
a push pull. It meant nothing. Hours later, John Cornyn
and his people, Matt Mkoyak, Matt Venmoke Mkoyak, very creepy guy,
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must not have heard the news. They started sharing the
polling data on social media. It's too late. Everybody always
already knew. What are your thoughts. It's like this happens
once every two to four years. Michael, we hear, Oh,
this is going to be a year the Democrats are
finally going to win. Ken Paxton's unelectable, Ted Cruz is unelectable,
All the most conservative statewide Republicans are unelectable. And then
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what ends up happening? They win by five to ten points. Right.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
Yeah, Look, at some point in a year ending in
six a Democrat might win statewide, but it will not
be in twenty twenty six. That will not be the
year ending in six in which a Democrat win statewide.
That will not be the year the Democrats do not
have a leg to stand on running for statewide office
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in Texas. You know Colin alright, I'm sure he's a
pleasant guy. I'm sure that when he draws in his
big chief tablet to make out his speech notes that
he does so in a very nice, orderly fashion. But
at the end of the day, he's not going to
be a member of the Ascent.
Speaker 2 (11:48):
How do I know?
Speaker 4 (11:49):
Because Texans just had the chance to vote on him
as a US Senator two years ago. And for people
who are going, what are you talking about, Michael, I
didn't know Colin already had been on the ballot before.
That is exactly the point. Already ran two years ago
and no one voted for him. Ted Cruz walked away
with re election. So now he's thinking, well, hey, I
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did so well the first time, I can do it
the second time.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
No, you're not going to do.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
John Cornyn or Ken Either John Cornyn or Ken Paxton
will be the US center from Texas following the general
election twenty six. Whenever you see Republicans when any Republican
who stands up and says, if you vote for my opponent,
the Democrats will win. What they're telling you is they
know that they're going to lose.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
It is a.
Speaker 4 (12:35):
It is a it's just a it's a silly, stupid,
moronic statement for any Republican to say, well, if you
vote for the vovote for my opponent, the Democrats. This okay,
what you're telling me is you're not a very good Republican.
You're not a team player. You're not going to support
the party's choice. You're not supporting the grass er. It's
in shame on John Cornyan for playing into this game, because,
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like you said, we've seen this play out before and
it's never true. The the consultants like saying it because
they like going to a couple of big donors who
don't pay attention to reality in Texas. Many of them
don't even live in Texas anymore. They go to those
and say, oh, look, you know, if we don't elect
this guy, the Democrats are going to win.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Oh no, they give them money.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
It is a it's consultant employment opportunity has nothing to
do with reality. And it's really sad to see our
distinguished senior senator letting his campaign stoop to such levels.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Okay, so let's talk about redistricting then for just a second.
The news is that with the new congressional redistricting lines.
First of all, before we get into the nitty gritty
of what this would mean for local races like District
two at nine, what do you think end results of
just the Texas redistricting. Do you like the new map?
What do you think of it? I like the new map.
Speaker 4 (13:47):
Look at it hits a couple key points for me. One,
it increases Republican representation in Congress that is more reflective
of what Texans vote for.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
Two.
Speaker 4 (14:00):
Uh, these maps, you know, you look at the maps
and look they're they're you know, they're map maps drawn
by flawed, fallible human beings. Right, You're always going to
have weird things that look weird in them, and they're
trying to achieve various purposes. But at the end of
the day, the maps that were adopted by the Texas House,
the maps that are going to be adopted here in
the next hour or so by the Texas Senate and
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sent to the governor for enactment. Uh, those maps are
much more compact. They look much more like what a
normal person would think a congressional district should look like.
In Texas, you know one of the current districts, to
the district that is misrepresented by Lloyd Doggett, it's this
weird district that meanders around and this weird snaking pattern.
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It's you know, one point, it's like the width of
two houses. You know, all kind of connecting, weird areas
of nothing in common except for being Democrat voters.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
And this map does away with a whole lot of that.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
These are districts that look like again districts communities are
kept together and that sort of thing. Now it's driving
the Democrats from bonkers because they don't like that. They
don't like communities being kept together. They want people divided up.
Those are to the best feature of the map. Look,
I know there are a lot of criticisms at all, well,
should have gone for eight, should have gone for ten?
Speaker 2 (15:17):
And it's striking to me.
Speaker 4 (15:18):
All the people saying that are people who have never
participated in their districting process previously or including this time.
No one introduced amendments to do that, and no introduce
maps to it. Because the problem is it's easy to
say on a talk radio show.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
It's easy to say on X. It's easy to say on.
Speaker 4 (15:36):
A podcast, Oh we should get ten. That's easy to say,
the problem is, in order to make the maps work,
in order to have the balancing of populations and all
those kind of things. Yeah, you might be able to
say that there's a fifty one percent advantage for Republicans
in one of one of these no ten grab seats.
The reality is what you end up with is losing
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Republicans losing strength because as the kind of way voter
tro out numbers work.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
This is why California.
Speaker 4 (16:03):
You know, today, the California Democrats have said they're moving
forward with their own redistrict to try to counter Texas.
But there are already voices in California saying, wait a second,
you mess with these districts the way you're talking about,
Democrats could end up losing seats because of you know,
the of the type margins that would be required. So
I think everyone needs to lay off a little bit
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the the criticisms on X and everywhere else. And you know,
and unless you can show me real maps that were
introduced and debated, these are really Good't don't let don't
let your don't let your dream get in the way
of a pretty good reality.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
Hey, can you hang with us and do another segment
real quick? I want to ask you more about that.
We got to take a quick break. Michael quinn Sullivan
is here right now from Texas scorecard dot Com. I
often say I think it's probably the most brilliant mind
in Texas political media. A policy wonk, A guy that
actually looked at this congressional map with a microscope and
told and it came up with a great NAIs of it.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
We're going to pick out it some more right after this.
We're not passive aggressive like some people. We know this
is Kenny Webster's pursuit of happiness.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
I don't know why anyone's surprised about this. If you
listen to this radio show, you already would have known
when I just am about to tell you here. This
is absolutely obvious. Brain infections are spreading across the country
right now. So if you see one drooling at you
with a blank stare, say hi to Joe Biden for me.
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He's just a great guy, you know, he's absolutely amazing.
That's really sad though about how he got cancer. I
don't think that's funny. I think it's very sad. He
is in a good mood though, he said he's trying
to find out if that's something else he can pass
along to kamalaw So, you know, good for him, he's
keeping in good spirits. I enjoy that, all right. So
we've been looking at this new congressional map redistricting of
the state of Texas, and after we did it, immediately
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California said, well, we're going to redistrict too. They already
signed voted on that. Then Missouri said they're going to
do it, and I've got to assume more states are
going to follow. I wonder what happens in some of
these states where they're losing people. I was surprised California
is doing it. California's numbers are going down as far
as population goes. Trump wants to redo the census without
all the illegal immigrants. I think that's probably a good
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idea if we're just forget about your own politics for
a minute. Obviously that benefits us, But doesn't that seem
like it would be the thinking objectively? Doesn't that seem
like it's the fair thing to do? Why would we
count illegal immigrants and the census. That's crazy. I don't know.
If everybody redistricts, does it help Trump next year? That's
the big question. Michael quinn Sullivan's here from Texas scorecard
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dot com. Michael, what do you think about that? If
California redistricts, if Missouri redistricts, if New York does it,
if Illinois does it, you get a new redistricting, You
get a new Oprah's hand and out redistricting all over
the place. Ultimately, does that have any effect on the
midterms next year? Or does it all nullify itself? Uh?
Speaker 4 (18:58):
Yeah, I think it actually a nurse to the benefit
of the Republicans. You know. Again, I think that when
you see uh hyper gerrymandered states like Illinois, New York,
California that are already hyper gerrymandered to uh to to
produce you know, uh outsized Democrat portions, there is a
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tipping point. And that's why I think what the Texas
Map did was so important. The Texas Map kind of
stayed within, you know, they didn't let their eyes get
bigger than their tummy as it were. Right the for
some of these states they are going to open in
their in their zealous desire to uh, to punish Trump,
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to punish Texas, to punish Republicans. Uh, they are, They're
very likely going to make this very classic error of
over extending their their margins such that some of their
some of their own people will become vulnerable. And you
think a state like California where your star to see
a lot of breaks in their armor. Politically, a lot
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of folks getting frustrated by the companies leaving, by the
by the by the outflow of people. A lot of
people have been kind of you know, passive Democrat voters
are starting to ask a lot of real serious questions
and that might be answered by voting for Republicans instead.
So that's a problem that the that that those big
states have. I think that when you when you talk
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about the sense of of the of the census. On
the one hand, I would like to know how many
people in total or inside our boundaries, legal, illegal, or whatever.
It's it's not a question of you just don't count
them with the but but the questions do you count
them for the purpose of congressional apportionment, And that becomes
a really key question.
Speaker 2 (20:44):
You know, we we should.
Speaker 4 (20:46):
And you know, with all of our supercomputers that we
carry around in our pockets be able to say, well,
I count five human beings that standing there, but you
know four of them are here illegally and one of
them isn't. So for congressional apportionment, we're counting the four
and the fifth we discount him, so we know that
he that he's present, right. I know, by the way,
we'll also tell ice where he is so that they
can exit him from the country. But I think that's where,
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you know, getting getting a better handle on apportionment is
going to be critical both now and into the future,
where we have that conversation about you know, who should
be counted for congressional apportionment, and that will definitely for
the long haul and nearer to the benefit of the
citizens of the United States.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
Right now, we have.
Speaker 4 (21:29):
A congressional apportionment scheme that tends to operate to inure
to the benefit of people who aren't here legally, who
haven't done the right things to be here, and that
has to change.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
All right, Let's talk about how this is going to
affect the Houston area lawmakers for just a minute. It's
my understanding Congressional District two. The lines are different Congressional
District nine. The lines are different. Obviously, two should ring
about everybody. That's probably the most famous local congressman. Sadly enough,
that'd be Dan Crenshaw. You know, he's been on Saturday
Night Live before. And I've heard conflicting information on this.
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I mean, during this interview, I've gotten text messages from
people telling me they think Dan Crenshaw runs in two.
I've also heard he's going to run in nine. I
am told Steve Toath will continue his campaign in congressional
district too. In the meantime, there's this other weird element
being thrown into the mix here. Call it a wrench
in the clockwork if you want. Is all these grifting candidates,
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people that never voted before in Texas primaries or in
previous elections, people we'd never seen before. A political candidate
with nine aliases, and you know who was accused by
members of her own family of being a grifter and
a con artist, and all kinds of weird, shady, sketchy
people involved in pyramid schemes running in these races. If
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you had to make a guest, Michael, I mean, I
just it's going to be so bizarre. Next year with
all these new candidates, people we never heard of before,
and the new congressional district lines. Do you think that
is going to hurt Dan Crenshaw. Does he disappear? Is
this one more neo con we take off the list?
Speaker 4 (23:05):
Well, Look, incumbents hate redistricting in many ways because it
means they have to introduce themselves to a new set
of voters and and and for and particularly someone who
you got to give Dan Shaw credit for this.
Speaker 2 (23:21):
He does a good job.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
Of campaigning and constituent service in his district. But what
you find when you move out of that districts of
people who aren't necessarily benefiting from his campaigning and his
congression and his congressional services as constituent services. Normal people
have only an opinion of him based on his voting
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record and base based on his tweets, right, And that
does not in your the benefit of Dan kren So
he's taking in So he's taking in a lot of
h He was potentially taking in a large number of
voters who there opinion of him because they live right there.
They know who he is, they follow him on Twitter,
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they see the things that he says, they watch his
voting record carefully. But they've not benefited, if you will,
from you know, having his office help them with whatever problem.
So he's gonna have to make some real, real major
changes in his operations really quickly, almost no matter which
district he's running, whether he stays in the current number
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or he shifts to the other number, either way, he's
going to have to do some real serious massaging of
his of his personality and his background. And honestly, I'm
not sure that there's time for Dann Grinshaw to do that.
I'm not sure there's time to you know, shove the
toothpaste back into the back into the two.
Speaker 2 (24:47):
I love that expression. All right. So Dan Failin, you know,
the neo con in Austin, he's definitely going away. John Cornyn,
the neocon in the Senate in d C. It looks
like he's going away. There looks like a very good
chance here for Crenshaw to go away. Here's the black
pill moment for all of us. If these guys go
become lobbyists, they make a lot of money, don't they,
Michael h Well, for some of.
Speaker 4 (25:08):
Them, they might be able to make a lot of money.
But remember, you know, the the for a for a
former legislator, for a former politician to become a lobbyist,
they have to have a good relationship with the people
who are in office. Almost definitionally, John Cornyn won't have
a good If John corn loses, Ken Paxxton wins, John
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Cornyn won't have a.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Good relationship with Ken Paxton.
Speaker 4 (25:35):
So that's now dropping to drop the people he can
lobby by one, you know, and then kind of rinse
and repeat, because all those senators want to make sure
they're friends with a new guy, not the not the
guy who was defeated. So it's a dicey proposition for
no of these camps. You know, I'll throw a little
potential cold blanket on you here on a Friday afternoon,
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uh and tell you that there is a loud rumor
that Dade Feeling, while leaving the house no One's going
to lose, is eyeing the possibility of running for a
congressional seat, hoping perhaps that maybe people voting in a
congressional district that is much bigger than his state house
district might not be aware that that Dade feeling on
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the ballot running for congress isn't the Daide feeling who
was the disgraced former Speaker of the House who Donald
Trump said, you're a fool if you support But yeah, look,
the hubris of politicians is almost boundless.
Speaker 2 (26:32):
So we'll see what mister Feelan does there, Dade Feelin.
I don't know what else he could do for a living.
I mean, yeah, that's remarkable. There are a lot of
liquor stores that could probably use it. Oh wait, could
I say that? Oh my goodness, I've got to get
off the phone now, I know that would be as
mean is making a joke about Dan Crenshaw doing endorsements
for Lens Crafters. We would never allow that. We would
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not know. We wouldn't do that on this show. Is
the point I'm making, Michael. We don't we go high
when they go, we go high. You know what I
will do. I'm gonna go remind myself and my friends
today that the best place to get news shoved into
your email bin every morning is Texas scorecard dot com.
What are you guys charging for that, now?
Speaker 4 (27:11):
I know?
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Is that more than the Chronicle or more than the
Dallas Morning News? What does that cause?
Speaker 4 (27:15):
I tell you, we're keeping our prices of the same.
Speaker 2 (27:18):
It is still free Oh it's free. I heard you
were gonna free, and I heard you were gonna double
the cost next month. Well we may, we may double free. Yeah,
they are times too. Michael the table.
Speaker 4 (27:29):
I wasn't going to announce it today, but you know
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Oh, this is interesting. Apparently McDonald's is lowering prices of
their combo meals. They would also lower the quality, but
I'm not really sure that's possible at this point. Hi, everybody,
welcome to a live stream. If you are, we're on
the radio. Obviously, you know, to those of you in
your car right now, you're nothing's changed for you, guys.
You don't know what the heck I'm talking about. There
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are people watching us on social media at the moment.
We're grateful to have them here. About one hundred to
you right now. We just started the live stream minutes ago.
And there's a reason why, as you guys often guess,
the reason we live stream is because I have a
guest in studio right now. I was really excited to
do this on a Friday because it's something unique. It's
different than what we normally do. Usually it's what is it? Politicians,
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journalists and comedians. That's who comes in here. And two
of those groups of people I just hate, but comedians
are fine. I guess Josh you're a little different than that.
Josh from Berna is here, and Josh, you are looking swollen.
My brother, I'm gonna I'm gonna climb out on a
limb here and guess you dead left?
Speaker 5 (28:50):
You do a little rack poll and I just try
to train for life. Man, that she's always trying to
kill you, so you just gotta be ready for it.
Speaker 2 (28:56):
You are not wrong about that. I wish you were.
You start, but before we explain what Burne is, because
I know talk radio listeners have heard of this. Everybody's
been talking about this. It's very interesting. You were in
the army. When was that?
Speaker 5 (29:10):
That was about about fifteen years ago, about twenty twelve
to twenty sixteen, twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
So are you millennial, jen X? What are you?
Speaker 5 (29:17):
I like to consider myself as zennial, some little elder millennial.
So I still take some traits from both, but and
I like to say it's the best traits from both,
but we all know that that comes with some what
cons as well.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
When did you start in the army.
Speaker 5 (29:30):
Twenty twelve, twenty twelve, kind it kind of later in life. Yeah, absolutely,
still went to the National Guard in the kind of
the middle of my career. So I always wanted to
do never did, and decided to take the opportunity to
do it. Well, it's a lot of work, it is,
it is, it's extraordinarily fulfilling. But yeah, that commitment. I
was an officer, so that commitment was it was a lot.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
What was the thing? What'd you expectations? Was it what
you thought it would be like or was it?
Speaker 5 (29:52):
Yeah, to a certain extent, I was fortunate enough to
when it as an infantry officer, which in the Guard, unfortunately,
it can be a lot like babysitting. You know, there's
there's there's just so much administrative work that has to
be done that a lot of the cool things that
you think of as being an infantry just kind of
gets thrown by the wayside. I finished up my army
career in the NCIDEA in the Criminal Vesigation Division, and
a lot of that was because of my civilian career
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of being a caught for less twenty years.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
So that's not uncommon for somebody that is in the
military to go into law enforcement. But when you were
in the military, you were actually in the law enforcement
side of it. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (30:25):
Correct. I've been in law enforce since about two thousand
and four.
Speaker 2 (30:27):
And that transition is probably a little less common. It is.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
It absolutely is. It definitely helped prepare me for that,
but it also helped give me a lot of perspective
going back into law enforcement and juggling both on both
ends to really be a better officer and a better
soldier on both sides.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
So safe to say, most of your adult life, technically
you're working in a government job. It's not like you're
working in an office somewhere pushing around welfare checks. You're
in the part of the government that's actually quite dangerous.
Speaker 5 (30:55):
Yeah, absolutely, And I was for thirteen of those years too.
Speaker 2 (30:59):
I was a swat guy.
Speaker 5 (30:59):
So most of my time and police work has been,
you know, kicking doors and and uh and putting handcuffs
on real bad guys.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
You're probably not old enough to know this, and I
wouldn't expect you to, but as a morning radio guy,
they're one of my favorite TV theme songs is swat.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Oh yeah, you know it, like like, were you talking
about the old TV show or the movie?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Yeah? Yeah, yo, yeah, absolutely, dude, Old cop shows have
the best theme songs. That's a hooker old swat Oh yeah, absolutely,
oh yeah, absolutely, Hawaii five, Oh dude.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
Miami Vice Yet do you listen to that in your
headphones when you're raised? Absolutely, that's all I hear. It's
rolling up to the house. It's just it's straight that
or or h yes, some of the other some of
the other cops and all that good stuff.
Speaker 2 (31:39):
All right, So at some point you decide, enough is
enough with putting my life on the line for country
and community. I'm going into the private secretary. Let me
put the camera on this here. And that's when Berna
became a thing. What what is Burno? What is it? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (31:53):
Burna is a less lethal self defense company. So it's
kind of all things one stop shop with less lethal
self defense. Our primary and kind of our flagship products
are these sixty eight caliber and now sixty one caliber
chemical launchers, So they actually launch a plastic ball for
lack of a better term, that's filled with a chemical
agent powder that hits a target out to more than
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sixty feet away and incapacitates them. The thing about what
we're doing is it's not anything really new. This is
a technology that law enforcements had available to them since
two thousand or in the late nineties, and it's been
extraordinarily successful on that end. So what Berna was able
to do was actually kind of repackage that technology in
a device and a product that a consumer could reasonably
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carry and use, and then market it to consumers to
actual civilians out there so that they had a better
option when protecting themselves.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
I like guns, but I also like the idea of
having something I could bring somewhere where you're not always
allowed to bring a gun. Legally speaking, can you take
this somewhere where guns aren't allowed to go? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (32:53):
Absolutely, We're legal in all fifty states. You don't need
a permit, you don't need any kind of classes, any
kind of certification certificates. You can go buy it you
can carry, you can order online delivered to your door.
You can be a convicted felon, you can be crossing
state lines all over the place and it's completely legal.
It's powered by CE two, so there's no there's no
firearm aspect to it. So that's one of the one
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of the biggest proponents of this is the fact that
it is just legal everywhere.
Speaker 2 (33:20):
I'm a liberty guy. I'm a liberty Republican. I'm a
lowercase ole libertarian. The felon part might sound controversial to people,
but there is a legitimate argument to me made that
somebody that broke a weed law fifteen years ago, or
like a white collar criminal who did his time in
jail and was never really a danger to society, has
his ability to defend himself taken away from him. Legally speaking,
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BERNA kind of solves that problem, right, it really does.
And that's you know, I get reached.
Speaker 5 (33:45):
I get called by a bunch of those guys all
the time to say, hey, thanks for doing what you're doing.
You know, I made a mistake twenty years ago, but
this allows me the opportunity to protect myself, protect my family.
Speaker 2 (33:56):
I think it is a very cool thing. That you
guys came up with this. Who are your most common clients?
Who are the people that buy it the most?
Speaker 5 (34:01):
You know, I wish I could give you, you know,
a solid you know, just market segment. But really that's
one of the great things is, you know, when we
talk you talk about politicians, we talk about the left
the right. You would think that the left is is
the primary purchaser, but it's it's not necessarily that way.
Really balance, we got a lot of people that just
don't like guns for one reason or another. They just
don't believe in them. They don't believe in using deadly force,
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or they just don't feel comfortable carrying gun. They don't
know that they could actually pull the trigger on somebody.
But then you have people gun owners. I mean I
carry a gun every day. I still yeah, I still do.
I lost Allline in a voting accident, so I don't
know about me too, Josh.
Speaker 2 (34:37):
But then I amazingly found them all in November of
twenty twenty four and they weren't even rusty.
Speaker 5 (34:42):
Crazy how that works. Yeah, but you got a lot
of gun owners that also realize that the chance for
them to have to use a gun to defend themselves
is extraordinarily small. Now, if that comes up, I'm one
of those I would rather have and not need than
need not have guys, But I also understand that the
chance for me to have to use some sort of
four less than deadly forth is so much greater than
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the chance for me. I mean you, you literally, in
this country, you have about a one in seven hundred
thousand chants of having to use deadly force to kill
somebody and to defend yourself.
Speaker 2 (35:13):
That is very interesting. I have people even comments right
now as you're explaining it. Jill is obviously a name
of a woman, and she just left a comment saying
that she wants one. A lot of your customers are women,
or is that.
Speaker 5 (35:24):
Women's a big segment of our customer base, And a
lot of that is those reasons I talked about. Some
just don't feel comfortable carrying a gun. Some don't feel
comfortable taking someone's life, even if the need arises and
the gun. That's the great thing about burn is it's shooting.
It's real easy. Training is really easy. You don't got
to go to a range you don't have. You can
train in your backyard and training your garage there's no recoil,
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there's no loud report. So it's really easy, it's very
not scary to do, it's not intimidating, and that's you know,
one of the things that a lot of people are
out there carrying guns that have never taken that gun
to the range, you have never trained with it, and
so their ability to protect themselves is is not much
better than somebody not carrying guns. Interesting, what does it
cost to get into this? So we have several different launchers.
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The one on the screen that SD there is comes
in at about about three hundred and sixty three hundred
seventy depending on the kit. And we've got options like
the cl the compact launcher here, which is our first
launcher that it's really really actually concealable. This is cheaper
than a fifty.
Speaker 2 (36:22):
Bucks So this is cheaper than it like a glock
or absolutely, I mean, it's more affordable and the likelihood
of you having to use this is so much greater
than that of a gun.
Speaker 5 (36:30):
Why do you say that statistics I'm a numbers guy,
so I was a number guy at time.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
Yep.
Speaker 5 (36:34):
Yeah, And when you look at statistics throughout history, like
I said, your chance that there were. In twenty twenty three,
there were four hundred and seventy some odd just file
homicides for self defense by civilians in the country. There's
three hundred and thirty million people here. That's a one
in seven hundred thousand chance. Your your chance of being
a victim of any violent crime that needs some sort
of force is about one in two hundred and sixty,
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So not one and seven hundred thousand, it's one in
two hundred and sixty. Your chance of having to defend
yourself against some sort of violent crime is exponentially greater
than that of you haven't used deadly force.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
How safe is it for the person using it?
Speaker 5 (37:08):
Incredibly so. Not only is it safe for the person
using it, it's safe for the person using it against
So Yes, it is going to hurt a lot when
you hit them. It is going to incapacitate them. You're
gonna get that. Those eyes are gonna slam shut. You're
gonna get this burning in your nostrils. It's gonna feel
like it's hard to breathe. They are gonna shut down.
Their neurological system is just gonna shut them down for
a good solid forty five minutes to an hour, but
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then after that they're gonna be okay. So that's the
great part is it's not only safe for the user,
it's really safe in the long run for the person
on the other end.
Speaker 2 (37:37):
All right, Josh from Burner is here right now. If
you just turn it on your radio, just getting connected
to this live stream, you obviously know who I am
what we're gonna do right now. Since we're about to
get off the radio here in just a couple of
short minutes, I'm gonna go outside with Josh. Josh and
I are gonna go up onto the roof of the
parking garage here at are building, and I'm gonna just
live stream from my iPhone. So I guess the easiest
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way to if you guys want to see what we're
about to do it, We're about to do a demo
because it'll be on my iPhone because we're gonna be
out portable. I'm going to do it exclusively on x Twitter,
whatever you choose to call it. So I'm gonna disconnect
here right now. We're gonna get off the radio. We're
gonna log off antiquated term there and come join us
in a few short moments. Bert Josh, anything you want
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to say to radio listeners before we just gonnec because
some of them will not be able to watch a
lot of streams they're driving.
Speaker 5 (38:24):
You're all about educating the public on not only the product,
but why you'd want to carry it and how you
can carry it. So go over to our website burna
dot com by RNA dot com to learn more. We
also have an extraordinarily active YouTube channel and social channels
at burn a Nation, at Instagram, and then Burna on YouTube.
Learn everything about why we're doing what we're doing, how
we're doing it, and how you can be prepared to.
Speaker 2 (38:43):
Defend I love it man, all right, I'm Kenny Webster,
and we hope to see all back here bright and
early Monday morning for more of what you bought a
radio for. To the rest of you, we'll see in
a few minutes. On social media, you.
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