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October 16, 2025 • 42 mins
This podcast edition of Kenny Webster's Pursuit of Happiness features Javon Evans of Turning Point USA. ( @KennethRWebster )

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Speaker 2 (00:26):
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Speaker 3 (00:47):
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Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, he gave him food. They were really excited about that. Hi, everybody,
Kenny Webster, thanks so much for joining us today on
KPORC nine fifty. I should have a lot of guests
this afternoon. We are live streaming right now on social
media in addition to being on the radio, so we're
live ish.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
I'll just leave it at that.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
If you're watching us on social media, you already know
where you're at in the studio with me right now.
Let me turn a mic on here, jim On, put
that mic in front of your face. Javon Evans and
you are. You are a young man, but you're in man,
you're an adult. You're out of college.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Is that right?

Speaker 2 (01:19):
And your represent a group called TPUSA. That's correct, Turning
Point USA. You and I met each other at the
Club America rally with Attorney General Ken Paxton. Michael Barry
was there and the kids from Stratford High School for
this chapter. For those that don't know, would you tell
the story what happened at Stratford?

Speaker 4 (01:36):
Absolutely so wild. I'm the field representative for the Gulf
Coast territory for Turning Point USA's Club America, which we
focus on high school chapters over in this part of
the Texas region. Strafford High School amazing group of kids,
very bright, several future presidents are in that chapter. Without
a shadow of a doubt, they as a collective aside,

(01:57):
they wanted to start their own chapter. So as a
field that's my job is to help facilitate starting that
and growing it. In the midst of getting that chapter started,
they had a group me where they were just going
back and forth with operational stuff. A parent decided that
they were going to go in using a pseudonym or
something of that nature, and she doxes the students at

(02:20):
Stratford High School. She posts them on a private Facebook
group just a little over seven hundred members. And if
you look, if you're able to get into that group
and look at some of the screenshots, I mean, these
are a lot of them are radicals. This isn't just
your run of the mill community group. This is leftist
radicals doxing minors, doxing children, which turning point will never

(02:43):
stand for that. So one thing leads to another, and
the Attorney General Ken Paxon gets involved and he's like,
my office is going to look into this, and that's
exactly what they did. And before they even had their
first meeting, they had their first event in which Kenny
was there, which we appreciate you being over there with us,
and so was the Attorney General.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
It was a crazy turnout, like thousands of people gathered
together so a couple dozen high school kids could become conservatives.
I made this point at the rally. I remember being
that age, I remember being having a short attention span,
like I'd say, this semester, I'm gonna get real into
ska music or whatever, and then by next semester I
wasn't interested in it anymore. But at that age, you

(03:23):
know the scarcity principle or like reverse engineering. If you
told me I wasn't allowed to do something or I
shouldn't do something, I was more likely to want to
do it. I think that when that woman from Spring
Branch Democrat Party came out and try to stop those
kids from becoming Republicans, she turned every one of them
into a Republican from the.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Womb to the tomb.

Speaker 4 (03:42):
Well absolutely, Look what that woman did is exactly what
the radical left tries to do. It's what they tried
to do back on September tenth, which just silence us.
And it's especially disgusting when you're trying to stop minors.
You're trying to stop these young, bright, innovative minds from
gathering together to do what celebrate their country, right, celebrate

(04:03):
capitalism and the constitution. That's nothing that you should suppress.
That's a ridiculous notion. Yeah, so let's talk about you,
Javan Evans.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
How old are you? Where are you from?

Speaker 1 (04:12):
Who?

Speaker 5 (04:12):
What?

Speaker 4 (04:13):
When?

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Where? Why?

Speaker 4 (04:14):
How'd you get here? Twenty four years old? I'm originally
from eastern Long Island. Love that place, but Texas is
pretty great too, and I'm so proud to call Texas home.
I've been here just about four years now. I moved
back when I was twenty. I came here in the
midst of, or just after COVID, living through it in
New York State. It really was as simple as I

(04:36):
got so sick of hearing Governor Cuomo on the TV,
and then I got sick of hearing Governor Kathy Hlkel
on the TV. I got sick of my freedoms being
stripped of me. Back during COVID, I remember being downstairs
with my dad and I'm like, I gotta get out
of here, you know, And he's like a I'm like
half to Grunds, like all right, think, oh move, He's like,
all right, moved out of eighteen move And I'm like, well,
you know what, I have free will. I think I'll
do just that. And I looked around, and Texas always

(04:58):
something in the back of my mind, and I felt
cold to the state. So I packed up my Honda
Cord that I had at the time, and that was
that I began to make a life of myself down here.
And only a few months ago is when I officially
joined the Turning Point USA team. And I've always said
that I truly do feel like that this is exactly

(05:20):
where God wants me to be right now. This is
the most fulfilling job I think anyone could have, and
this organization means the world to me.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
So you're from the Upper East Coast, I'm from Chicago,
and you and I are both Now I mean conservative thought.
I mean it's weird to say out loud, but thought
leaders in Texas for young conservatives. What I'm about to
say really upsets people from Texas. But it's subjectively true,
especially on this radio station.

Speaker 3 (05:46):
In the last.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Election, there were more native born Texans voting Democrat than
non native wign Texans, but Republicans won the election in
the states, So how did that happen? More of the
people moving in from I'm out of state to Texas
are voting Republican, then are not voting Republican. When I
tell this to my native born Texan friends, it really

(06:07):
bothers them. But it's objectively true. As much as people
don't like people moving to Texas from Illinois or Chicago
or New York. Weirdly, that seems to be right now,
at least as far as the hard data tells us.
What's keeping the state red right, and your evidence to
the fact that that's true.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
So am I absolutely And look, I tell this to
a lot of my student leaders in Club America all
the time. Right. One of the things at turning point
that is so paramount to us when you start here
is what is your why? Why are you doing this?
And a part of my why is because I grew
up in New York. I was so fortunate enough to
have two loving parents that put me in a school

(06:44):
on eastern Long Island, Right, So I wasn't in the
city or anything like that, which is chaos now. But
I saw first hand what happens when you give left
this an inch and they take twenty miles. And part
of my why is making sure something like that never
happened to a state like Texas, a beautiful state, a
state grounded in value, in their values. And I think

(07:07):
that the notion is a bit wild that other people
would want to vote to essentially turn Texas into something
like in New York. I can promise you from firsthand experience,
you don't want to live in New York. You want
to live in a Texas. You don't want some of
the highest property taxes in the nation higher than what's
already you know, somewhat high for Harris County. You don't

(07:29):
want a state income tax. You don't want your freedoms
with the stroke of a pen to be stripped from
you over the sniffles going around and you don't want that.

Speaker 2 (07:39):
No, So tell me again, what was the date you
came here? Was it in twenty twenty after twenty twenty
August of twenty twenty one? Okay, so you were in
New York during the pandemic. Now we didn't have the
pandemic in Texas, so we don't even know what that
was like.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
What was it like in New York?

Speaker 4 (07:54):
Nothing short of abysinos. I remember being at Suffolk County
Community College and it was just a regular day after class.
I was going to get some lunch and we got
this text from our phone. It was a suny alert
for every SUNNI school in the state, something about COVID nineteen.
We'll see you in two weeks. Well, that was a lie.
That was one of the biggest lies that New York

(08:16):
State has ever told us. It was literally, if you're
going to go to the beach right Long Island's got
some beautiful beaches, put a mask on. We're going to
slowly reopen the gyms after six months because everyone got
so fat and unhealthy and pale being forced indoors from
months on end. But while you're on the treadmill, make
sure you put your mask on. When you go to
a restaurant, walk in with your mask on, but then

(08:38):
you can take it off, put it in your pockets.
So now it's a filthy mask. But if you have
to go to the bathroom and you get up, you
have to take it out of your pocket, this dirty mask.
Now put it over your face. I mean, it was
people that had no idea what they were talking about,
running the state just for the sake of taking away
our freedoms, and somehow the majority of the state just
went with it.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
As a young man, that was a red pel moment.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
For that was one of my big red pill moments.

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Well, we want I want to talk more about that.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Javon Evans is here right now, one of the leaders
of TPUSA in Southeast Texas. DJ Daniel and the Odious
Daniel will be joining us shortly. Stick around. It is
Pursuit of Happiness Radio on KPRC. Don't Go Anywhere.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
Kenny has always thought the best things in life are free,
free plus tax, of course, Kenny Webster's pursuit of happiness.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
All right, this is interesting.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Today's National Gets Smart About Credit Day. You know, I
don't understand who comes up with this stuff, but that's
today's fake holiday. It's National Gets Smart About Credit Day,
probably presumably celebrated by zero members of Congress. I don't
think any of them are going to celebrate that. Hey,
I'm Kenny Webster. Thanks so much for gett connected with
us this afternoon. I am in studio right now with

(09:50):
Javon Evans from TPUSA, one of the young men running
the organization here in Southeast Texas. You're in or out
of school at this point out and what did you study?

Speaker 4 (09:58):
Political science? Switch as needless to say, I ended up
at Turning Point, USA, And we all know Charlie's opinions
on higher education in college, so maybe not the most
necessary thing in the world.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
You know, it's interesting, Jovon, I political science and journalism.
I went to the University of Illinois, Chicago, but I
started in the same place he did, Harper College, where
he didn't stay very it was It's a really nice
junior college right outside of Chicago. He didn't stay there
very long, obviously, because Charlie went off and created this massive,
almost like an anti academic, anti elitism organization. Is what

(10:33):
I would say TPUSA is. It doesn't discourage people from
going to college, like some people claim. That's not what
it is at all, even though Charlie's path was a
little different in life. But it does encourage people to
reject elitism or pseudo intellectualism, which is what you encounter
a lot on college campuses.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
You work with college kids.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
And I imagine you probably come across stories from time
to time about kids getting shamed by college professors. When
the kid was objectively correct about the facts, they were
put down or denigrated in front of their peers by
professional educators.

Speaker 3 (11:04):
Stuff like that happens a lot.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
Oh absolutely. I know that the college rep to the
territory we share a big part of has a million stories,
whether that's over at the University of Houston or wherever
about things like that happening, and lots of college reps
around the company will tell you, even show you on
a turning point USA's front lines account on Instagram and
x you'll have student leaders over on those college campuses

(11:28):
that are just tabling. They're just doing their thing, and
then a radical leftist student comes and they're aggressive, they're
smacking stuff off the tables, they're trying to flip them over.
And in my department with high school, we see similar
levels of animosity with that. You'll have teachers in school
administrators public schools, by the way, so they have federal
laws they have to follow, but public school administrators and

(11:50):
teachers that when these students want to start these clubs
to get around like that Equal Axis Act of nineteen
eighty four, I believe they'll just pocket veto a essential right.
They just won't do anything with that, they won't update it.
You'll have teachers that'll try to kind of scare the
students into submission. Right, Hey, this isn't something that your
principal or ap is going to approve. You don't want
to do this, Hey, we don't want to get all

(12:12):
political in the school. But meanwhile, to have a Democratic
Socialist of America club in the high school, and that's
just fine. So I don't understand why they can operate
if we don't want political stuff. But a five oh
one C. Three, which is inherently nonpartisan, can't operate just
for students to have a space to celebrate America.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
Yeah, my red pill moment happened in college. For sure.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
I was going to one of the most far left
universities in the state of Illinois. I didn't understand politics.
I didn't know what my political beliefs were. But I
sat there and I watched anti capitalist activist on campus,
anti anti men activist, and I said, I don't know
what I am, but I'm not against me.

Speaker 3 (12:47):
I'm not against you know.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
I grew up Catholic, Like I might not be some
fundamentalist or some evangelizer of my religion, but I'm not
against my religion. And I figured out what I was
by figuring out what.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
I was not.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
And I think a lot of people are that way
you are. And you know, we're on the radio, so
some people and I might not be able to figure
this out from just listening to you, but people watching
us on social media already know you're a brother. You're
not you know, you're you're not some like white supremacist
neo nazi. In fact, you're one of the one in
three black men in Texas that voted for Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (13:19):
We hadn't seen that in decades.

Speaker 2 (13:20):
For a long time before Trump, the Republican Party was
a white political party, and even.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
Catholics were kind of a minority in that party.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Times have changed, right, opinions vary, the political landscape shifts.
You're kind of a contradiction according to what the left
says about people on our side.

Speaker 3 (13:36):
But here you are right in front of me.

Speaker 4 (13:38):
Absolutely, And look, we see stuff like that, especially me,
all the time. Just the other day, I was going
through my Instagram comments and you get called everything out
of the book, right, I'm uncle Tom of this that whatever.
I love. You know, you get the occasional argument on
X and I guess someone just doesn't look at my
profile picture and they'll call me a white supremacist. I'm
like looking at my hands and looking in the mirror.
I was like, oh, I must be a really ten

(13:59):
white guy, right, but a Sicilian. And look what we've
seen with the Republican Party and with the right is
I think something that Turning Point USA and Charlie specifically
also did so well. What we did so well, which
was we went to those communities. You went to everyone everyone.

(14:22):
Grassroots activism is the name of the game for Turning Point,
and we said, look at what the left has promised
you for years and years and years on end, and
they've not delivered on any one of those promises. We
are not going to attempt to prop you up or
coddle you because of the color of your skin. We're
doing it based on your merit, based on the context
of your character. That is a foundational principle of this country.

(14:43):
It doesn't matter who you are. What I want to
know is how good you are at the job. But
I want to know is whether or not you're a
good person. Those are the things that we care about
at USA, and I think that's something that has morphin
as something generally for the right and especially for the Party,
because that is really matters.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
Right.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
I think that Black Americans and Hispanic Americans and all
the minority groups in this country are really sick and
tired of being talked down upon. When you have Governor
Kathy Hokle saying that voter idea is racist because black
people don't know how to use a computer, right, so
they can't get an ID. How does your drawn out
drop when you hear things like that? A turning point,

(15:21):
we don't do that. We were very much Your skin
color doesn't matter boy.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
I appreciate that there's a lot of black people in
Turning Point, USA. I mean I met him the Texas
Youth SE and other places like that. Young Republicans are
all over the news this week. Are you a member
of any Young Republican group? Are you generally just affiliated
with the Turning Point USA?

Speaker 4 (15:39):
This is the Young Republicans is a group that I
joined not too much longer after moving to Houston, and
I got a lot of really great connections there.

Speaker 2 (15:46):
People are confused about this because the Young Republican groups
from each state aren't necessarily associated with each other, like
there's no there's no other than the name. The Texas
Young Republican Group has no affiliation with the New York
Young Republicans. Some people are confused by that. But all
that being said, I'm sure you see what's on the
screen right over here. Politico is all over this this week.
They found a chat room on Telegram where there are

(16:09):
a bunch of I'm told that these guys have some
affiliation with the Groypers. I don't know any of them.
That these are like Nick Fuentes guys, they're sort of
some of them. And again, I don't want to spread
misinformation here, but that some of these people are so
far to the right that they were anti Trump or
anti Maga. I don't know if that's true or not.
I do know some of my friends in Texas young

(16:31):
Republicans have told me they've had problems with these guys
for years, who showed up in these chat rooms saying
things like, we love Hitler, we don't like black people
using the N word. I'm obviously paraphrasing here, we hate Jews.
That sort of thing disgusting, awful language, I will tell you.
And I don't think anybody endorses it or supports it
at all. And what I'm about to say might be

(16:52):
qualified as what about ism. But it is weird to
see the outrage the people that seem to be the
most mad about this. And I'm not happy about it
by any means, but it seems like the people that
do the most mad about it just spend a month
celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk, just spent the last
two weeks defending Jay Jones, the attorney general candidate for

(17:13):
the Democrat Party in Virginia, who said he wants to
kill his opponent's children.

Speaker 3 (17:17):
You know, it's weird. To think.

Speaker 2 (17:18):
But John Fetterman has become such a reasonable voice in
all of this, saying maybe it's time to turn down
the volume on both sides. I don't know people like
this when I'm hanging out with political people and I'm
not hanging out with guys that love Hitler or what like.
I don't know those guys, but they must be out there. Similarly,
the Democrats, I don't know, aren't celebrating the death of
Charlie Kirk. But Javon, there's so much of this on

(17:40):
the internet. How do we set what is the I
know you don't know the answer to this, but like,
isn't it bizarre this disconnect between online culture and what
seems to be happening in the real world. I don't
know anyone that acts like this, but on the Internet
it seems like there's so much of it nowadays.

Speaker 3 (17:55):
What's your reaction to that?

Speaker 4 (17:56):
Look, I think that the media loves to try to
pour trade the majority of the country as what's going
on on the internet, which is just an awful take. Right.
If America was representative of all the stuff that goes
on on x for example, this would be a pretty
wild West sort of country and as far as that
political story a political story went. Look, obviously some of

(18:20):
the things that were said in that group chat was aboring. Also,
I didn't see the Democrats shaming those people in the
New York Young Republicans group shaming that person running for
Attorney General Jones absolutely, And I wouldn't see them shaming
their fellow leftists when they were posting memes about our
boss getting shot in the neck. I didn't see any

(18:40):
anything for that. So I have a hard time even
buying that they're actually mad about that, especially when you
see insand levels of anti semitism on the left right.
So this almost sounds like a group chat that some
of them would probably be like, oh yeah, that's hilarious.
I think that this is just a silly hit job
and trying to distract from what's really going on in

(19:01):
this country right now, trying to distract from the mid terms,
try to distract even from us and all of the
amazing growth that we've made with this country at TPUSA,
and just demonizing young conservatives for what one fringe group chat.
I would love to see the group chats as some
other leftists. I would love to see their discords and stuff.

Speaker 2 (19:19):
As somebody that speaks at Young Republican meetings and Turning
Point USA rallies and the Texas Youth. So, and I'll
just say this, I'm completely okay with everybody on this
group chat I have on the screen getting kicked out
of the Republican Party and never being allowed to back again.

Speaker 3 (19:33):
I'm completely okay with that. I'll add this to that.
I feel like there should be some consistency.

Speaker 2 (19:38):
Why won't the Democrats ask Jay Jones to step down
as the candidate?

Speaker 3 (19:41):
Is that too much to ask?

Speaker 2 (19:42):
I mean, what's the difference joking about gash Chambers or
joking about killing your political opponent's children.

Speaker 3 (19:48):
Feels like it's the same thing to me.

Speaker 4 (19:50):
Right, Well, you're absolutely correct, And I have no idea
why no one from the Virginia Democrats will tell him
to step down, including the woman running for the Democrat
nominee for governor Virginia against wins some series. But I'll
tell you what, Kenny. I think it's because it's in
parentheses d different right, It's because they're Democrats for whatever reason,
they don't have to take accountability. But anytime the smallest

(20:13):
infraction happens to anyone, that's even center right, all of
a sudden, they're demonized. They're the boogeyman of the worst
person in the world. That's just how the left, especially
the radical leftists, operate. That's always been their bread and butter.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
If you're just getting connected with us, I'm talking to
Javon Evans from Turning Point, USA. We should be getting
joined very shortly by the Otis Daniel and DJ Daniel.
For those I'm sure you all know who DJ Daniel is.
He's the young man that Donald Trump made and what
is he? An ice agent? I forget exactly? Is everything
under the sun? Secret Service? I who's as the police
department like eight others and his dad is running in

(20:47):
the eighteenth district you got famous for Shila Jacksonly and
Silvestri Turner. We should be joined by them shortly. I'm
gonna check the green room. If you're watching us on
the live stream, stick around. We'll be back in just
a few short moments. If you're listening on the rate,
you already know what happens next, So don't go anywhere.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
We'll be right back.

Speaker 5 (21:03):
America, the land of taxation that was founded to avoid taxation.
Kenny Webster's pursuit of Happiness.

Speaker 3 (21:13):
Hey, hi everybody where were we?

Speaker 5 (21:17):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (21:17):
Yeah, this is interesting, really exciting stuff happening here. We
are told that Walmart is partnering with open Ai to
let customers search for in purchase products directly from chat GPT.
They can also ask chat gpt to recommend the Walmart

(21:37):
bathrooms that are best suited for cooking meth in. And
I think that's great that they're doing that. I think
that's really awesome. Javon Evans is in the studio right now.
Javan you are you know, you're a young conservative, You're
a right winger, You're a TPUSA leader. You're also a Christian.
Did you're rEFInd like you just heard me telling off
putting joke?

Speaker 4 (21:56):
Right?

Speaker 2 (21:56):
You obviously listen to comedy. You listen to secular comedians.
You listen to secular music and stuff like that. Of course,
people that obviously don't share your political opinions that probably
do comedy or actors, musicians, stuff like that. You know,
how do you separate your political ideology from just basic
run of the mill entertainment.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Well, I think it's very simple. Outside of something that
is just so veheminently trying to be an active as
song or something. For the most part, Look, if the
joke is funny, joke is funny. If I find it funny,
I'm gonna laugh. We don't have to agree on everything
for me to find someone funny. If there's a good
song on, there's a good song on, if it's catchy
and I like it. It's catchy and I like it.

(22:37):
I don't personally need every single human being or artists
that that I spend some time listening to or be
entertained and to agree with me one hundred percent. Turning
point USA, right, Like we all agree on our mission.
We all agree that we need to educate and empower
young leaders, but we don't agree on some of our
political takes. And we're still all best friends and we

(23:00):
call work just fine. If there's a really fun diagram
that I saw on X some months back where you
look at the left versus the right and the diversity
of thought between the two sides of the aisle, and
it's these bubbles and the right is like these various
shades of red, and it's all these bubbles all over
the place of people collaborating but they don't fully align.

(23:20):
And on the left, it's just like this one solid
blue bubble. And that's because people on the left. The
moment you stray away just a little bit, you're done
your acts, they pull the rug from you. They go
even more to the left, and people end up on
the right because they just got pushed towards us, because
they go so left you can't even see them anymore right.
And I think that they do that a bit too

(23:41):
much with community. They do that bit too much with artists.
You know. Again, I'm very chill when it comes to
things like that. If I find a joke funny, if
it's a good joke, it's a good joke, I don't care.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Who are you made me?

Speaker 4 (23:49):
Leaft congratulations. I'm not gonna hate you because you and
I may disagree on a law that recently passed.

Speaker 3 (23:54):
Who are your favorite comedians?

Speaker 4 (23:57):
Oh, I'm gonna have to go with I'm more entertainer, right.
I don't think Joe Rogan's the best comedian in the world,
but I think he's a really good entertainer.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
He is a great entertainer.

Speaker 4 (24:09):
Sepassion man of Scalpo. Well, he's continued to be right wing,
did you know that? Yeah, he's like a low key
right wing guy. They claim he's from the North suburbs
of Chicago and he's Italian. Yeah, so obviously all of
my uncles and aunts love that guy. They think he's amazing.
You know, you probably know this about me. I do
stand up on the weekends. I produce music for fun.
I'm an electronic music DJ. And some of my friends

(24:31):
from the comedy.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
Scene asked me not long ago, Kenny, how can you
like Dave Chappelle if he makes fun of Donald he's great.
I mean, I think he's a genius. Well, he makes
fun of people on both sides. Or they'll say that
about south Park. Now, they're like this season of south Park,
all they did was make fun of a Charlie Kirk
and Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (24:47):
Well, Charlie Kirk thought it was funny.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
He thought it was funny enough to change his profile
to Carton or whatever. I always try to tell him
this story. Back when I was your age, I was
working in Chicago for a promotional company and we were
promoting a new TV show on HBO called Entourage. Do
you know what Entourage was? It was this TV show
on HBO about these four guys. Two of them were brothers,

(25:10):
they were from Boston, they were new in Hollywood. They
didn't fit in with Hollywood. They were like regular guys.
And one of them became a famous actor overnight. And
the weird things that would happen to them meeting celebrities
and porn stars and rockers and you know, all the way.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
And that's what the show is about.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
And while we were getting paid to go out and
promote the TV show, we organized nightclub events, art shows,
like exclusive things that you could only get into if
you had one of these HBO VIP.

Speaker 3 (25:39):
Passes that they were having us pass out.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
And so one of the things we were able to
do was organize an art show featuring exclusive art from
Salvador Dolly that nobody else had. We met this woman
who had a bunch of paintings that Salvador Dolly made
for her when she was a young woman. And so
do you know who Salvador Dolly is. He's his famous artist.
I have some of his images up on the screen here.
He was a great surrealist, very famous surrealist. And this

(26:03):
young woman that we met when we were living in
Chicago had all these drawings that were gifted to her
because her father was an art dealer and she was
a thirteen year old girl, and Salvador Dali was very
interested in her. Now, the drawings when we went and
organized the event that she had all over this gallery
were pictures of a young woman who was not wearing clothing. Now,

(26:25):
this is where it gets a little complicated, Javon. I
appreciate Salvador Dali's art. His art is in some of
the most famous art galleries in the world, the Modern
Museum of Art, the Contemporary Art Museum in Chicago, the
Museum of Fine Arts here in Houston, the Manil Art Gallery,
some of the most famous art galleries anywhere on earth.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Exclusive stuff.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
And I am standing here with a woman who was
clearly painted naked by this guy when she was a preteen, Right,
pretty creepy. And I had this realization. Salad Ordolli, one
of the most famous painters who ever lived, was probably
my modern day standards, probably, at least from what I'm
being told, a predator. Right, how do you separate the
art from the artist? Well you kind of have to.

(27:05):
So this is a long way to get to where
we're going here. But so the response I always give
to people and they ask me, is like, well, how
can you like a comedian if he doesn't share your
political beliefs. How can you like a musician if he
doesn't share your political beliefs? I would assume most reasonable
people don't think it's okay for a forty year old
man of a sexual relationship with a twelve year old girl.

(27:27):
Yet amazingly, Salvador Dali's art is up in art galleries
all over America, all over the world, and nobody really
has a problem with that.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Am I supposed to care? If you know?

Speaker 2 (27:40):
Taylor Swift, not that I'm a fan voted for Joe Biden.
That just doesn't matter to me as.

Speaker 4 (27:45):
Right, And it doesn't matter to me either for the
most part. Look, I think another really at least personal
example for me, one of the best I don't even
just think artists. I think one of the best you
know for discography and producers of our time has been
and always will be Kanye West. This guy made the

(28:07):
life of Pablo. This guy made my beautiful, dark, twisted fantasy.
This guy made graduation. He also went off the deep end,
lost his mind, lost his mind. Absolutely, he had some
pretty abhorrent takes that I don't agree with at all.
Does that mean that I didn't listen to Saint Pablo
on the way here, and of course I didn't because
he wasn't as crazy then, and it's an amazing song.

(28:30):
I can absolutely listen to Kanye West without having some
of the mind boggling and horrendous takes that Kanye West has,
and I think that would be similar for something like
Salvador Dali right disgusting that he was a pedophile. Also,
that melting clock right there is one of the craziest
piece of artwork that I've ever seen.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Sure, yeah, it's it's genius right, especially at the time,
but also it was probably created by a predator. Do
we take it down off of the walls of the
Museum of Art in New York? I would assume no,
It's still a brilliant painting. Unfortunately, you've got to separate
the art from the artist. Kanye has probably the greatest
rap producer who ever lived. We're really alienating some of

(29:11):
the baby boomers lest they don't know what we're talking about.
But this is an important conversation I have. I think
I also wonder this, You're what year were you born
in Java?

Speaker 4 (29:19):
Two thousand and one?

Speaker 2 (29:20):
Okay, so you probably don't remember Katrina. You were like
six or seven years old when Hurricane Katrina happened. All
these famous celebrities got on TV and they did a
uh what an info not an infomercial, like a telethon,
that's what it'd be called.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Kanye, Yes, so you're aware of this.

Speaker 2 (29:36):
He's sitting there with Saturday Night Lives Mike Myers, and
Mike Myers is reading from the teleprompter and then the
camera goes to Kanye, and Kanye.

Speaker 4 (29:43):
Goes George Bush hates black people.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
And this shock people because nobody was expecting anyone to
make this political.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Oddly enough, Javon, twenty years later, everything's political.

Speaker 5 (29:54):
Ye.

Speaker 2 (29:54):
If that happened today, nobody would be shocked that a
Hollywood celebrity said Donald Trump hates black people. Nobody would
even bad at an eye. But twenty years ago, that
was a pretty crazy thing to say. Now, at the time,
Kanye was considered left wing. At some point he switched
to the right, and then he went to the way
far right, and then he started writing rap songs about
having gay.

Speaker 3 (30:13):
Sex as a kid.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
Or It's like, I got to assume and I know
you're not a psychiatrist. You don't know the answer to this,
I've got to assume probably drugs or something. It can't
just be that he's crazy, right, right to have that
vast like all those rapid switching opinions, and it became
very religious, then started producing pornography, like can somebody help

(30:34):
this guy? Does no one know? Is there no one
that loves him enough to figure it out? It's got
to be a mixture of things.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
I've heard many a time that he was addicted to
nitris right, laughing gas that they give you at the dentist, right,
And that was a big one. He's always been bipolar,
even has that album I'm Bipolar and It's Awesome or
whatever it is. I hate being bipolar. It's great, you know.
And it's like, of course, he lost his mother and
that was the closest rock and foundation for him over anything.

(31:01):
He divorced Kim Kardashian. Whole bunch of things hit him
in life, and I just think that he was surrounded
by enablers of outlandishness and tom foolery to be frank,
and it's a sad case of what happened to Kanye.
He does need help. I wish that he would come
back and see the light. That I think that Jesus

(31:23):
King was his best album. No, but that I think
that it had some of the best messaging. Absolutely, I'm
a Catholic. I love an album that at least attempts
to shine light on the gospel. Nothing wrong with that.
I want that, Kanye again.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
I'm a Catholic as well. I want to talk to
you about that when we get back from break. Pope
Leo and a lot more. Javon Evans is here, one
of the leaders of Turning Point USA in Southeast Texas.

Speaker 3 (31:44):
Don't change the channel, We'll be right back.

Speaker 5 (31:46):
Pursuit of that penis radio coming now, Chius. This is
Kenny Webster's Pursuit of Happiness on KPRC nine fifty Houston.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
All right, Angela Jolley, the Hollywood actress, says, despite hating
Donald Trump, she is not going to be leaving the USA,
of course not. I mean, after all, what if Jennifer
Aniston gets married again and she has to steal another
guy's husband. She can't leave the country for that. I'm
here right now with my buddy, Javon Evans. Javon is
from Turning Point, USA. Not unlike me. He wasn't born

(32:20):
in Texas. He got here as quick as he could.
He was helping to run the group here in Southeast
Texas when the terrible thing with Charlie Kirk happened. You're
too young to remember Andrew Breitbart.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
You know what Breitbart dot com.

Speaker 4 (32:33):
Is ifinly know who that is and what Breitbart dot
com is, But I don't.

Speaker 2 (32:36):
Personally for millennials, when Andrew Breitbart for millennial conservatives. When
Andrew Breitbart died, it wasn't quite the same thing as
when Charlie Kirk died for you guys, for the zoomers,
but it was a big deal.

Speaker 3 (32:48):
Andrew Breitbart is the reason I moved.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
To Texas well. He was one of them. I was
living in Chicago. I was a little older than you.
I was in my mid to late twenties, and I
got to eat lunch with Andrew Breitbart. And I was
working at a servative news talk station there. I was
a DJ on a morning radio show. Andrew Breitbart and
I went out to lunch together at ironically, at a
Cajun food restaurant, which would probably make in Chicago, which
would make some of our New Orleans listeners heads explode

(33:12):
if they ever saw the men. We thought it was delicious,
but to people in New Orleans, they would probably think
it was sacrilegious. But I digress. So we're hanging out
and we're eating. And Andrew was always famous for saying
politics is downstream from culture.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
Do you get what that means? Yeah, of course you do.

Speaker 5 (33:27):
Right.

Speaker 2 (33:27):
Like what happens in music and entertainment in Hollywood, in sports,
putting black lives matter in the end zone, or whatever
it may be.

Speaker 3 (33:35):
This stuff actually affects.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
It affects elections a lot more than some politician going
to a rally and doing a rant about illegal immigration does.
But anyway, back to the lunch. I'm meeting lunch with
Andrew Breitbart, and I just asked him this straightforward question.
I feel like Chicago's a dead end for me. I
feel nothing here. I don't get along with these people.
I'm thinking about moving down to the South. And he

(33:57):
was kind of the reason I ended up doing it.
You talked me into it, he said, you know, your
your life starts the minute you make that decision. He's like,
whether you choose to go or not, it's the right decision.
If you stay here, you know, you stay here, you
figure it out. If you go down there, it's the
beginning of a new adventure. It was one of the
best decisions I ever made. Javan You kind of remind

(34:18):
me of myself a little bit. You're in your twenties,
you move down here from a blue state up north.
You obviously seem to like Texas more. Did you have
a moment like that where you just realized, Fine, I'm
gonna go to Texas.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
Yeah, I mean COVID again was definitely the biggest one.
Just seeing our liberties and our freedoms get so easily
stripped away from a face the state government was scary.
You know. It was petrifying in a sense, and I
don't ever want to experience anything like that ever again,
And I don't ever want that for Texas. Even throughout
high school, right Listening to Charlie Kirk Ben Shapiro was

(34:53):
a big one at the time. I think probably pulled
me into becoming more grounded in my conservative values. And
then from there I find people like Charlie Kirk, like
Michael Noles to where I love listening to time and
I loved it listening to Charlie. I work for his organization,
and I'm so proud of doing so. But yes, the

(35:13):
culture is paramount to Turning Point submission. Charlie was adamant
on taking back the culture. Right. TPUSA is not just
for educating students on the Constitution, on free markets, and
on America, though it is right, those are the three
big things for students. Right. You're in Club America. You're
a chapter leader Returning Point with Club America because you

(35:35):
believe that America is the best country on the planet.
You believe that the Constitution is the best written governing
body anywhere in the world, and that capitalism has brought
more humans out of poverty than any other economic system
in history. But it's also very culture oriented. Be grounded
in your faith. Right, the MAHA movement making America healthy again,

(35:57):
And of course the big one from Charlie, Right, what's
something that you should How can you be happier? Well,
why don't you go out, get married, have more kids
than you can afford, and live a virtuous, healthy lifestyle.
I subscribe to that notion. Just about everyone at Turning
Point USA subscribe to that notion. That's what we want
to do. I know my manager Ricky told me a
very personal story about how that's pretty much how he

(36:18):
got involved, and it was through that idea, and he's
so much happier as a person now. And I think
that's just a general theme with Turning Point and a
general theme of the less craziness gave Turning Point USA
an opportunity to be this amazing self betterment movement of Hey,
go to the gym, eat right, love thy neighbor, be

(36:39):
involved in your local community, be a leader, be loud,
be strong, and yes, have lots of babies. I can't
wait to become a father one when the time comes
from me. It's one of the most important things I
think any man can ever do in their life.

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Man, I would agree with that. Definitely, get married.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
Obviously, I being a divorced guy and probably not the
right guy to give advice about this, but my recommendation
is get married and try to create a family.

Speaker 3 (37:03):
That's my advice.

Speaker 4 (37:05):
You're Catholic.

Speaker 2 (37:05):
I'm guessing your dad's Italian, so I'm guessing he's Catholic.
's your mom Catholic too?

Speaker 4 (37:10):
She goes to the Catholic Trutch now too. It just
kind of worked out.

Speaker 2 (37:13):
Okay, we've got a new pope, and I know that
there are a lot of conservatives that don't like Pope
Leo like they didn't like Pope Francis. I will say this,
he says as much conservative stuff as he says liberal stuff.
I'm not defending his political beliefs or whatever. But the
liberal media will here, I'll pull up an article for
you right now, the liberal media will do a story
about him saying something anti Trump, right, something like pro

(37:36):
immigration or pro you know, help the immigrants.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
That sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (37:40):
Is if Republicans are against immigration, we're not. We're against
illegal immigration. But anyway, here's an article today. We're just
looking out on the screen and here of Time magazine.
Pope Leo is becoming increasingly vocal about defending immigrants from
Trump's crackdown. That's true. He's also becoming increasingly vocal about
being against a born He's also becoming increasingly vocal about

(38:02):
being against you know, gay marriage, encouraging people to have
a traditional marriage, that sort of thing. There are liberals
out there who hate Pope Leo because he's a Catholic right.
But at the same time, the American media tries to
make him sound like he's some far left political activist.

Speaker 3 (38:18):
The truth is he's.

Speaker 2 (38:19):
Neither a right wing ideologue or a left wing ideologue.
As a young Catholic you go to mass regularly. Absolutely,
do you find that you encounter a lot of people
that'll point out to you, you know, the Pope doesn't
agree with all your political beliefs. Don't you want to
stop being a conservative? How do you react to that
sort of Oh yeah, you hear that all the time.
I hear that more from Protestants than anything else. And

(38:41):
you know, I love the Protestants, love all Christians. I
like Protestants, Baptists and Catholics. I cannot stand the Methodists.

Speaker 4 (38:47):
Yeah, those Methodists make me very uncomfortable with us. Just
don't get it with their coffee shops and their book clubs.
But anyway, you were saying, yeah, look, I'm not going
to agree with every political take that Pope Leo has,
and I pray for him that he has a very
long life and that he leads the Catholic Church in

(39:10):
a virtue through Christ right, And I don't think that
I have to look, maybe there's some Catholic out there
that can prove me wrong and say no, actually you
have to copy exactly what Pope Leo says. I just
simply don't believe that. And you're right that as many
liberal takes that he has, he also definitely has conservative takes.
I was so excited that he's the first American pope.
Hearing the Pope speak in perfect English with like an

(39:32):
American accent is wild to me. It's my it's it's
spens your mind. It really does, and I think that's cool.
I am not going to leave my faith just because
the Pope blessed a block of ice. That's not enough
for me to leave my faith. And whilst I don't

(39:54):
look at a Baptist or a Protestant and say, well,
you have to become the Catholic, you know I'm not
a crusader. Uh, go crusades, right, But I don't have
the helmet, I don't have the sword. It's not enough
for me to leave mine. I love being a Catholic.
I love being able to go to Mass. I usually
go to our Lady of Wallsingham over by the Spring
Branch area. It's an absolutely beautiful parish. It's actually in

(40:16):
the ordinary. It so even though I'm a cradle Catholic, uh,
it wasn't built for me. But I love how traditional
and reverent that the Mass and that the parish is
too much to stay away from it. But it's a
part of who I am. It's a part of my identity,
and it's how I can talk to Christ, It's how
I can talk to the Lord. It's where I feel
most comfortable to where I feel most connected to him,

(40:39):
and it's where I ground myself. So you know, the
Pope Leo again, blessing a block of ice or having
a more liberal take that isn't going to sway me
away from the beliefs that I am grounded in.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
To be fair, but blessing that block of ice didn't
hurt anybody. But I mean I thought it was a
little odd to but whatever. Hey, before we get out
of here, I just want to thank my guest today,
Javon Evans, is here right now from Turning Point Usay,
a lot of people are going to watch this stream,
a lot of people are going to download this podcast.
By the end of the day, tens of thousands of
people are going to hear you talk. What do you
want them to walk away from with this conversation? What

(41:16):
do you want them to know about the group that
you work with and the work you're doing. Yeah, I
want them to walk away with us. All you ought
to understand that we cannot tell you enough how much
we appreciate all of the support that you have given
us since September tenth, when the radical leftists attempted to
silence us, when they attempted to end Charlie's mission.

Speaker 4 (41:36):
It is alive and well, and it is thriving. Over
one hundred and sixty thousand individual people reaching out to us.
How do we donate? How do we start chapters? Hey,
I'm a high school kid. I want to start to
join a Club America chapter. My territory alone when the
semester started had two chapters, and now I'm at forty
four in counting.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Amazing. Absolutely, God is good. Peace be with you. Javon.
I liked you, but now that I know.

Speaker 4 (42:01):
That you're a Catholic, I like you a little more.
The same goes with you, and I think that that's
just one of the many things we have in common.

Speaker 2 (42:07):
My brother Chevan Evans, I'm Kenny Webster, followed javan On X.

Speaker 3 (42:10):
Where do they find you?

Speaker 4 (42:11):
Javan Evans X.

Speaker 3 (42:13):
Yeah, give him a follow, he is a good follow.
I love you all.

Speaker 2 (42:16):
We'll be back bright and early tomorrow morning for more
of what you bought a radio for. I have a
fantastic day, y'all.

Speaker 5 (42:26):
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