Why did Ivory Hecker walk out on Fox News?

This podcast edition of Kenny Webster's Pursuit of Happiness features independent journalist Ivory Hecker.  ( @KennethRWebster )

Episode Transcript

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Jack ganon Government Sucks, Suit ofHappiness Radio is d us. Liberty and
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may have to eliminate non essential positionsdue to a financial crisis. Ah Man,
that is bad news for the Chargers. Hi, I'm Kenny Webster.
Thanks for turning on your radio.There's actually la is all over the news
today the residents of Los Angeles MayorKaren bass Or. Her home was broken
into. It was bad. Thethieves found her plans to do nothing about

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crime and homelessness. Really embarrassing stufffor her. But we'll get to all
that later on in the show.Also, you know who else is stopped
by today is Ivory If that namesounds familiar to you. She was a
news reporter at Fox Houston and shekind of went rogue. She went public
about how they were trying to suppressher from doing real journalism. She'll be

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stopping by the show today. We'regoing to talk to her and find out
what's going on with her. Beforewe get to any of that stuff,
a little update on what is happeningaround the country right now. It's presidential
election season, at least it's supposedto be. I mean, for the
most part, the primaries are overright, but you wouldn't know it from
the campaign trails. Donald Trump hasbeen preoccupied with a lot of important matters,
legal matters. This week. Prosecutorsand judges aligned with Joe Biden and

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the Democrat Party have the Donald tiedup in court, most recently in New
York City for the Stormy Daniel's HushFun trial. But hey, at least
he's not out there doing nothing right. Meanwhile, his opponent, Joe Biden
is permanently on vacation at his beachhouse in Delaware. But who needs to
campaign when you've got Hollywood celebrities todo that for you. Several Hollywood celebrities

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have recently made the claim that JoeBiden is quote sharp as attack very specific
thing. More than one of themhave recently said it's almost like they're reading
from a list of pre written talkingpoints. But I'm sure that's not the
case, is it? No,Why would they be Why would professional Hollywood
actors be saying lines that were writtenfor them by somebody else, I wouldn't

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managine that would never happen. Anyway, Michael Douglas has been particularly vocal in
his support. You may know MichaelDouglass. He's authority stems from the fact
that he played a politician in amovie, so of course he knows what
he's talking about. Michael was recentlyon CNN's for Reid Zakaria GPS. It's
a show on CNN, and hedescribed Biden as being like I said,
sharp, as attack and quote fine. He said he was fine, indicating

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that he believes Biden is mentally fitfor a second term. Michael Douglas also
mentioned that everyone he's spoken to sharesthe same assessment of Biden's mental acuity.
Of course, Biden is super sharp. He's so sharp he thinks a quarterback
is a refund. He is sosharp. How sharp is he? He's
so sharp he brought a ladder toa debate to raise the bar for intelligence.

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He's so sharp and honest. Howsharp and honest is he? His
imaginative reality checks are actually even evenreality is checking them for plagiarism. I
screwed that joke up, But anyway, the point is this, guys,
Michael Douglas and John Legend and JoyBear. They all claim Joe Biden as
sharp as attack. Even most ofthe Kennedy family have recently claimed Joe is

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a smart man and he belongs inthe Yoval office. Again, as sharp
as attack. I'm again, it'slike they're reading from a script. I
did the movie once, you know, but I knew who could ever attempt
you? Well, I knew howI had the ending, you know,
some difference to you have the ending. You know. They asked me to
run for governor a couple of timesin California earlier time, and I remember

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saying, well, waydey want me? Said, well, we need a
man who can financed his own campaign? Said, yeah, you know who
has a credibility, notoriety, whowho is well known around the around everything.
And I remember saying, you sureyou're not looking for a kamikaze pilot.
I said, I don't think so. So you and Biden are about
the same age. What do youdo you think? You know, are

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you one of those people who wishedhe had about out let let the field
choose somebody else? How do youhow do you think about that? Well?
I think I think that I walka little similar to him, and
the people that I've talked to andeverybody that I have uh say, he's
as sharp as attack. He's fine. He's as sharp as attack, and

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he's fine. Now, Michael Douglassuffers from memory loss. But never mind
that. I want you to imagine, for just one moment, that everything
we know about Joe Biden we learnedin the past week. Forget all his
scandals, his gaffs, his flipflopping policy positions from the last five decades,
forget it all. Are you ready? Okay, there's this guy named
Joe Biden, And apparently Joe's gotan uncle who was supposedly eaten by cannibals.

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What kind of cannibals, the brownedindigenous kind who live in a third
world country on a remote island somewherein the South Pacific. And how do
we know this, Well, wedon't know for sure. But Joe told
this story with all these twist andturns, more twist and turns than a
pretzel factory during a recent visit toPittsburgh to talk to steel workers about a
trade deal. Now, I'm noexpert on culinary preferences of our distant cousins,

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But this all seems a bit hardto swallow, doesn't it. You've
heard some tall tales. This onekind of takes the cake, or maybe
I should say the human flesh.You know, the military records say that
the plane went down in the ocean. There's no mention of cannibalistic feats.
And let's be real, if therewas any flesh eating going on, you'd
think the military would have made anote of it. But hey, who

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am I to question Joe Biden's familylore. Maybe his uncle really did end
up on the menu in some thirdworld country called Papa New Guineare. Maybe
it's just a creative storytelling excuse ofJoe Biden to kill time on stage.
I don't know either way. It'sa very unique way to honor a family
member's service. So that's the storyJoe Biden's telling about his uncle in the

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alleged cannibalistic buffet. But remember,folks, sometimes the truth is stranger than
fiction. Of course, in thiscase, it might just be a little
too strange, and it begs thequestion why would he make up such a
bizarre story and why would Hollywood celebritiesbe so desperate to make this behavior seem
normal. It's not exactly our recipefor a successful dinner conversation. Imagine sitting

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around the table and saying, hey, remember that time Uncle Joe got eaten
by cannibals. What's for dinner?A foot in a shoe? I don't
know. Seriously, folks, makingup stories about your uncle being eaten by
cannibals is more than in just badtaste. It's like selling snow to an
eskimo. It doesn't make any sense. If you're gonna make up stories about
your family, stick to something morebelievable, like your uncle invented the wheel

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or discovered fire. I don't know. Leave the cannibal stories to the professionals,
maybe the people at the Discovery Channel. If you're gonna claim somebody is
as sharp as attack, make surethat person isn't a dementia patient with more
cobwebs on his brain than a hauntedhouse. Maybe Joe is as sharp as
attack. Hey, by the way, you know who did notice this bizarre
story that Joe told about Papa NewGuinea. As it turns out, the

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Prime Minister of Papua New Guinea isnow demanding the President of the United States
apologize for claiming cannibals ate Joe's uncle. And he's also requesting that the United
States come and clean up some ofthe garbage we left behind in their country.
And I'm sure that won't be aproblem for Joe. I mean,
after all, he's as sharp asattack, so he's more than qualified to
clean up some garbage left behind ina third world country. And I'm sure

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he will, just as soon ashe figures out how to avoid the cannibals
who ate his uncle. Jame came. This is Kenny Webster's pursuit of happiness
on KPRC nine fifty Houston. Theflavor of the month. No, I'm

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not talking about Baskin Robbins. I'mtalking about how the media works. What's
the flavor of the month right now? Rioting protesters on college campuses. That's
all they want to talk about.Palestine and Israel, Ukraine, there's still
a little bit of time for Ukraine. Climate change, Oh my gosh,
climate change. They love that.But y'all remember, do you'all remember the

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Maui wildfires? Breitbart dot Com todayreporting on how that was eight months ago.
Eight months ago, we saw Oprahand the Rock on TV begging us
to give them money. Eight monthsafter those terrible Maui wildfires, which by
the way, killed one hundred people. The survivors of that fire are still

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living intense Really, I'm sorry,didn't We gave them a lot of money,
and we donated, and we wasall over the news. I conspiracy
theorists on both the left and theright took a intense amount of interest in
those fires. You're telling me wehaven't done anything to help those people yet.
This is what happens when democrats controlthings. And you know that democrats

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enjoy full control of Hawaii. There'sthis guy named Ron DeSantis. He lives
in Florida, and you may rememberhe rebuilt a whole bridge in three days
after Hurricane Ian. Keep that inmind as we talk about this for just
a minute. The Daily Mail reportsmost of the tent owners lost everything they
owned in the blaze now I'm talkingabout Hawaii, and have ended up living

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on the beach after being kicked outof the temporary hotel housing they were given
in the immediate aftermath of the fire. According to the report, the three
mile stretch of road between Kannapali andLahyana. I'm sure I'm not pronouncing those
things, as the places in Hawaiithere and the island of Maui are dotted

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with encampments all over the place,just people living in tents. Who's a
sixty four year old says she hasbegged the local mayor and called on the
Hawaii governor, Josh Green, tocome to the town and witness her plight.
Strangely, nobody's responded. She endedup living in a tent in a

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parking lot after losing her home inmost of her possessions in the fire.
She takes a shower nearby in abeach shower. It's cold as you could
probably imagine, and the Democrats incharge of the town, the state,
even the country have nothing to sayabout this. Oddly enough, the liberal
media, also controlled by Democrats,absence of any reporting on the issue as

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of late. So one of thebig problems here is lack of housing.
This is a deliberate problem created byDemocrats. Democrats put their environmental concerns above
the well being of humans. Thereare plenty of rentals around, but local
residents, most of whom are Democrats, prefer to airbnb them over helping out
the fire victims. And that's fine, it's their property. But boy,

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you spend years paying property tax andlocal sales tax and state income tax,
and you'd think if there was amassive disaster that wiped out an entire community
of people, the state would havesomething to say about it. One resident
told reporters that more than seventy percentof the town's rental units are airbnbs providing
vacation accommodation. Okay, but whatabout FEMA, you know, the federal

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government and their Emergency Management Association.As apparently, even after FEMA offered three
times the rent to accommodate the firevictims, most landlords said, nah,
they prefer the short term profits tothe long term tenants. Eight months,
this has been going on, eightmonths of being homeless, of having people

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pretty much even forget that you existed. The state and local governments have had
eight months to rebuild or build newhousing. The refusal are in a build
to do that is unforgivable. Here'sa question for you, what is the
government for if not to take careof the basic needs of people who lost
everything through no fault of their own. Does anybody know, and let's not

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forget that other than their voting habits, the people here are not the problem
prior to the wildfire. These areall functional enough to own or rent homes.
These were people with jobs. Theywere contributing to society. We're not
talking about fentonyl addicted homeless people here. We're talking about local residents that were
longtime members of the community contributing tothe local economy. This is a total

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failure of government, the kind offailure we see again and again. We're
democrats control things, and let's notforget that Maui Democrats are people who put
gaya above people. What's that youasked, Well, listen to this report.
Little excerpt from the report here,firefighters in Maui did not run out

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of water to fight this deadly firebecause Maui did not have enough water.
No, it was because Hawaiians votefor democrats, and the Democrats are earth
mothering theocrats who appoint people who believethat ancient wisdom and traditional ecological knowledge of
native people will help save the earth. That is actually in the report.

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This is the twenty first century.We landed a man on the moon sixty
years ago. We have the resourceswe have to know how to enjoy plenty
of energy and clean water and housing. The only people holding us back and
keeping victims intense eight months after adisaster are backward democrat theocrats who still worship

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the earth. They worship the earth. Hawaii and Maui could have built or
rebuilt these homes twice in eight months. Not doing so is an anti human
choice. And by the way,did I did you remember that before where
I mentioned that Ron DeSantis rebuilt awhole bridge in three days. He did
it in three days. But takea look at Baltimore. It's the exact

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same thing that was happening there amonth ago, and Hawaii is exactly the
same eight months later. Pursuit ofhappiness. This is Kenny Webster's pursuit of
happiness on KPRC nine fifty, Houston. Oh Hi, We're back from break

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and I have a guest in studio. Independent journalist Ivory Hecker is in studio
right now. We are live streamingon social media. We are broadcasting on
Cape HEREC nine to fifty. Ivory, you are Our listeners in Houston would
be very familiar with you because youkind of left the local Fox affiliate with
a splash? Was that two yearsago? Is that how long ago?

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One year ago? Twenty twenty one, twenty twenty one. Yeah, so
it's coming up on three years.How does it feel good? Yeah?
You were working at Fox News.I don't know, and this is Fox
local. It wasn't like Fox inNew York City or whatever. For those
that don't know the story. Youwere working there and you were trying to
do stories with a slightly to rightof center issues like COVID vaccine mandates,

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border security and stuff. Oh that'sthat's not even that's incorrect. Why don't
you tell the story because I don'teven like right of center. I'm just
about the truth. And so itwas actually my boss is assigning me to
a story to go cover COVID treatmentat a certain hospital, United Memorial Medical

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Center, and I just covered whatwas happening there, and afterwards was threatened
with firing because I let people knowexactly what was happening and what specifically was
happening that they wanted to fire youover well, they were including in their
treatment hydroxy clorquin. So to bethreat and with firing for just reporting what's

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actually happening. I didn't seek thehospital out. Fox assigned me to it,
but I was supposed to delete thepart that was against the narrative,
and that that was what was adeal breaker for me, is that now
journalism is out the window. They'vejust set a precedent. So that was
the first incident in my eight yearcareer at that time of being threatened with

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firing for doing exactly what I haddone for eight years, for doing what
I was trained in journalism school todo, and nothing to do with politics
right or left of center. Justhere's what's happening at a hospital, right,
Yeah, but you don't consider thatto be like you were reporting on
hydroxychloroquin ivermectin COVID vaccine mandates. Atleast you wanted to talk about that stuff.

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And at the time, I mean, things changed quick in the news
world. That was controversial at thetime. Since then, people realize a
lot of the reporting criticizing that stuffturned out to not be accurate. Rolling
Stone Magazine ran a story about howthe emergency rooms in Oklahoma state were all
tied up with ivermectin overdoses. Itturned out it was completely untrue that had
never happened, but they'd claimed atthe time gunshot victims weren't able to see

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a doctor because of people being treatedwith ivermectin. Of course it was a
lie, right, Yeah, sothere were there was a lot of deception
in the news and it kind ofgot glazed over. But yeah, so
that's when I decided to leave.And then during that during those ten months

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that I was waiting to leave,trying to figure out a way to leave,
there were a lot of restrictions onthe truth that were happening, and
just taking an unbiased approach to like, Okay, what are the what are
the viewers seeking answers on right now? That's not getting answered. And of
course new vaccine technology was a hugething that and I was at the forefront

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of covering it, being sent tofilm the very first injection in someone's arm
December fifteenth of twenty twenty. Andyou know, so I was sent to
cover that and I could cover ithappening, but when cases sara to roll
in of side effects, we hadto be quiet about that, right,

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And that's I also had a problemwith that because in any other story that
I covered over my eight to nineyears at that point of being a full
time reporter, as I we werelooking out for the truth and we're looking
and we're listening to viewer concerns andlet's let's get the people's questions answered.
All of a sudden, that changedin the pandemic, and it changed in

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regards to pharmaceuticals, in regards totreatment methodology, and then in regards to
the election too, and even inregards to crime, which was my primary
topic. What was Fox locals narrativeon crime that it wasn't a problem,
It was that the narrative was thatminorities, especially black people, were being

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targeted in a very at a veryhigh rate by police. And because it
was twenty twenty, so that wasjust what was going on at the time.
Of course, four years later,it's completely different. Now now it's
back to funding the police and peopleare apologizing for how we treated law enforcement.
But at the time, I mean, it goes, it goes in

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the other direction so quickly, doesn'tit. Yeah, Well, there's a
lot of group think in the media, but just being boots on the ground
reporter. So I graduated journalism schoolin twenty twelve, and I think the
Michael Brown incident in Missouri was whattwenty fourteen or something, which really I

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feel like that initiated this group thinkmovement in the media to say that police
are now after black people for blood, you know, And it was a
deceptive narrative. As a reporter primarilycovering crime all those years I was witnessing,

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excessive use of force by police wasa thing. A lot of law
law enforcement have big egos and docommit acts against people of violence unnecessarily.
But it was happening to every race, and it was happening to a lot
of white people, and I wouldjust see how I would go cover it

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for the local news, a whiteperson being shot by police, and then
it would never make national news.And the only cases that made national news
were black people. Because it wasa very strict narrative of let's cause America
to think that police are after blackpeople, that white people are safe around

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police, And it was deceptive.And one of the last stories I covered
before I left Fox twenty twenty onewas another officer involved incident of violence in
the Houston suburbs. And as I'mdriving to the scene, before I've even
gotten there, my assignment manager iscalling me asking me the skin colors of
the people involved. So that's goingto affect where they placed the segment in

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the exactly because National was calling FoxCorp. In New York. So we
were we were a Murdoch station.And this is why when I left,
I called out Fox Corp. Icalled out Murdox because every week my boss
in Houston would be on a callwith New York to craft the narrative,
to control the talent. And Ilater learned actually shortly before I left Fox,

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I got drinks with one of theleadership at Fox Houston and he told
me he's on those calls with mynews director with New York every week and
that they are criticizing me and othertalent, and that she's defending me and
trying to let me be free todo for just for wanting to cover stories

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that they didn't want you to cover. He didn't go into specifics, but
you know he he also he waslike, I can tell that you're like
right, You're like to the right. So him saying that and saying and
saying that she's trying to let mebe free, I kind of indicate that

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that they're bothered by stories that mightseem right leaning, like that hydroxy chloroquin
story, they were honestly just usingit. Fox sent me to that hospital
they were using hydroxych hydroxychloroquin got dubbedright. It has nothing to do with
politics. It got dubbed right,but because Trump decided to be a fan
of it. It's medical treatment.It is not political, you know.

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But because I'm going to cover whatactually happened, regardless of politics, regardless
of putting censorship blinders on. NowI'm labeled, right, Okay, I
don't care. I'm going to beabout the truth. If journalism is now
considered right, cool. So anyway, he didn't go into those specifics,
but the little things he was hintingat towards me made me feel it.

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I think it was. It wasa variety of things. Foxcorp. Was
controlling what we covered, but theywere also controlling our lifestyles. They wanted
to make sure that all the talentwere being very politically correct during the pandemic
in their personal lives, Like don'tyou dare take a picture on social media
where you are standing closer than sixfeet from anyone? For instance, Like

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I got criticized for that, reallybecause you were at a gem or you
were at a party or something likethat. I mean at one point,
because so after covering that hospital,I was put on over a month of
social media censorship or a blackout.Fox was like, you can't post anything.
And then when my boss lifted that, she said, okay, you
can post, but only stuff thatI approve. So I took a picture

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with my video on a story oneday. I think we were covering the
weather like a hurricane was coming,and I was like, can I post
this picture with my videographer out onthis scene and we were like four feet
apart? She said, no,you guys aren't six feet apart. Of
course you can. You can't postthat, right was it? Didn't Fox
National have a morning show anchor aroundthat time who got fired because she came

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to work and she had a cold. I want to say. Her name
was Heather something. Do you remembershe was the host of Fox and Friends
first the very early I host amorning radio show. So that's how I
remember this. One day, thiswoman was just missing from Fox News.
And it was months later we learned, oh, she came to work with
the Sniffles, and when people atyou know, this is a New York

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City based company, media company,when people at Fox News found out what
happened, they couldn't fire her fastenough. Well, I'm not surprised by
that because what happened very early inthe pandemic in twenty twenty was that Fox
Phoenix that's where Carrie Lake was workingat the time. Again Fox Corp.

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We were all the biggest Fox stationsaround America. They're all part of the
Murdoch Empire, and Fox Phoenix,the reporters decided to have a little house
party during the pandemic. They allgot together for a party and they all
got sick, and it took downthe entire newsroom staff because everyone had COVID

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and I actually had to do livehits for Phoenix from Houston and like try
to make a Houston story related toPhoenix just because they had no content because
all their reporters were sick. Soafter that, all the Fox Corp Got
very strict, including New York,very strict about a lot of COVID rules.

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So for those that don't know thestory, and I'm sure a lot
of our Houston listeners do. Youwere in You were in the mainstream media.
You were on the nightly news.You were one of the top reporters
that they were sending out. Wereyou filling in his anchor? Sometimes you
were there regularly doing all kinds ofstuff. Yeah, I used to do.
I used to anchor the Saturday eveningnews every weekend and COVID hit and

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you. That's when you became.You went from just being a local reporter
to a national name because you wereon TV saying I'm gonna I'm gonna spill
the beans, I'm gonna say thingsthey don't want me to say that,
and you were fired almost immediately.I take it. Yeah. They actually
never told me that I was fired. They were too scared to talk to
me. But it was reported inthe media that I was fired. I

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say, okay, some article saysI'm fired. I guess I am,
which was my goal at that point. I wanted to I had to get
out of Fox, and there wasno cause in my contract that would allow
me to leave. So you technicallywere never fired, Like you could show
up tomorrow and be like, what, so you didn't tell me? Hey,
if you're just turning on your radio'mtalking Ivory Hecker. We're live streaming

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on Facebook and Twitter and YouTube,and she is a very controversial reporter from
Houston, Texas. Quick Break We'regonna be right back with more from her
right after this. This is KennyWebster's Pursuit of Happiness on KPRC nine fifty
Houston. All right, we're livein studio with Ivory Hecker, and we've

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been telling the story about how youworked at Fox News Local and you were
doing coverage in big markets like Phoenixbecause of the pandemic and if it wasn't
for COVID, odds are you'd probablystill be in the mainstream media. Is
that accurate? Yes, that's right. Yeah, but because of what happened
during the pandemic, things got soweird. It opened your eyes and you

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left, and we cover that storyin the last segment. So you've moved
on. You're doing some big stuffnow as an independent reporter, including a
docu series that you were just tellingme about called Beyond the Surface of America.
It's boots on the ground style reporting. You went down to the border
and that is a cop Arizon Unified, which is I think a streaming service

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online I'm assuming. Yeah, that'sright. They have a TV app,
iPhone app and all that you canstream stream Unified. They're very uncensored,
so I like that, and weexplored unique aspects of each state. We
went through eight different states, forthis season, this first season, and

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right now we're on episode four,which is Texas, and we had to
make it down to the border tosee what's really going on down there.
Where did they send you at theborder specifically like Eagle Pass, McCallen,
where did you go? Yeah?Well what I was the co boss,
So we sent ourselves me and ElizabethLane. We sent ourselves down to Eagle
Pass because that was that's the hotspot of controversy where in the past couple

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months people were wondering, is thisgoing to become like civil war between Texas
and the federal government? Right becausethe Border patrol wants to take down the
fencing down there and the Governor Abbottis trying to build it back up and
get now this face off. Buthere's the thing. When we went down
there to film, Texas National Guardmilitary troops in their camo were assisting migrants

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across the border, so that thoseborder fences that Governor Abbot is so adamant
about building as border patrol terrorism nowGovernor Abbot's troops were helping illegal immigrants over
the fences. That's the thing thatalways surprises people as you get down there
and they're handing out lunchables, they'rehanding out caprice sons. Apparently the US

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Border Patrol is handing out copies ofKamala's book or one of the non governmental
organizations was that sounds like a joke, but they were literally handing out copies
of her book to people as theywere walking over the border. Wow.
Yeah. So it's just such mixedsignal as you get and it's like,
hold on, So is Governor Abbotjust putting on a facade And he's actually

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in alignment with with Joe Biden becausewhen you get down there, Abbot's troops
and Biden's troops, the Border Patrolare working very closely together in lockstep to
bring illegals in right, not stopthem from entering. And so although there's
portions of the border where they areblocking migrants. So it's like, what

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is going on? And I thinkthat I think that Governor Abbot just isn't
fully aware of what some of histroops are doing. Some of the National
Guard just goes with the Border Patrolbecause once they're in each other's faces,
Border Patrol is a higher up agencythat's a federal agency. Even though National

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Guard is part of the Army,but they were sent out there by the
governor. Border patrol was sent bythe President, and so needless to say,
what we filmed at the border wasNational Guard troops helping migrants over fencing
after migrants illegally swam across the RioGrand Then they hand those migrants off to

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border patrol, and border patrol putsthem on a bus, takes them to
processing facility, they print out theirpaperwork notice to appeer. They then send
them off to a nonprofit like Catholiccharities. Yes, and then that's where
they show their nose to appear,which is proof they're an illegal immigrant.
And once they have that proof,then they get all the goodies back stars.

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Well, they the paperwork says theyare, but they're treated, you
know, like better than an Americanwouldn't. We wouldn't get all these freebies.
But right now there's a program inplace which I looked up the all
the financial information it's on FEMA dotgov that a certain amount of tax dollars

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over three hundred million per fiscal yearhas been allocated to illegal immigrants to make
sure that they have housing, transportation, you know, plane tickets, taxi
rides and everything to wherever they wantto go. Yeah, twenty years ago,
talking about the broken immigration system orimmigration crisis in general, it was

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something liberals were very concerned about.Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton
is a senator, voted to builda border this you know, offense,
they called it. They didn't callit a wall. At the time,
twenty years ago, criticizing big pharma, that was a very liberal thing to
do. And now the political landscapeshifted and these are suddenly considered to be

(32:58):
conservative opinion, conservative positions. Butas a journalist, you don't consider yourself
to be right wing. You don'tthink that this is conservative. You just
you just consider it to be journalismexactly. I'm just covering what's actually happening.
I've actually never been a conservative inmy life. A lot of people
label me that way these days becauseI'm covering things that are outside the narrative

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so to get the missing facts.That's considered conservative now, Like, okay,
but I'm not. And actually mybiggest hate group is conservatives because they
actually find out that I'm not whatthey welcome me into their club and they
realize I love freedom more than conservativestoo, and then they start freaking out
at me. Liberals don't know Iexist because there they don't pay to any

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pay attention to any facts outside thenarrative. So I don't get hate from
liberals because they just don't know exist. But I hate from conservatives because I'm
not one. But when you leftFox Local, did you get you must
have gotten some criticism from local journals. I mean, people knew who you
were. This was a pretty bignews story when it happened a couple of
years ago. I get this.I didn't get hate from journalists. I

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got secret love the ones who werebrave enough to reach out and say thank
you for speaking for us. Butdon't let anyone know that I told you
that they didn't want they didn't wantthe word to get out. And there's
all they're all mainstream media people becausethis was not about political leanings. This
was about the truth, and peoplewere so appalled. You know, it

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doesn't matter. And I will saythat the majority of newsrooms are left leaning.
Absolutely, you you're free to talkabout your leftist politics in a newsroom,
but if you mentioned any right wingpolitics and you're like cast out.
So anyone on the right in anewsroom just stays quiet. But which I
think of a good newsroom. Youneed to tone down your personal opinions anyways

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a lot and just seek the truthof that. But sure, it's corporate
America, right, yeah, butthese people in the pandemic, it was
so clear, this is not politics. This is censoring truth. This medical
stuff is not politics. So peoplewere just so appalled. And when I

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finally went and covered what I wasforbidden from covering, I did a full
end depth See I didn't care aboutCOVID treatment until they blocked me from covering,
and then I said, what's goingon? And when I left Fox,
I did an in depth seventeen minutevideo report where I sought the truth

(35:28):
that was censored in and the onedoctor I got in trouble for covering,
I was like, you know,I went back and interviewed him, Hey,
did you know I got in troublefor talking with you in reporting what
you said? And he said,I know a lot of reporters tell me
that they can't report what you wantwhat I'm doing. Did you ever talk

(35:49):
to doctor Mary Bowden from Breathe MD. She was, I mean, she's
like the spokesperson for criticizing the COVIDnarrative in Houston she's probably the most prominent
journal of the most prominent healthcare workerfor going out and pushing things like ivermectin
or alternatives to the vaccines, andlook what it did to her. Well,
yeah, I did cover her onceI left Fox. Yeah, but

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not when you were there, youweren't. I think she hadn't. She
hadn't even entered the news, youknow her. She hadn't even come out
until after I did, right,Yeah, But it turned out that ivermectin
was a just completely censored. Therewas an absolute media blackout in America against

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it. Yeah. If you're justturning on your radio, I am talking
to independent journalist Ivory Hecker. She'stelling us about Beyond the Surface of America.
That that is co produced in Arizona, the Unified Network. And who
did you produce that with Elizabeth Layne, another independent journalist? And what is
next for you, guys, isthat your is you collaborate with her a

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lot? Oh, this is ourfirst collaboration together and it turned out so
great. Is she's a rare independentjournalist. That's that's very much like me,
very much interested in the same things, and very much fearless as well.
So I think we may do aseason two. We shall see,
but this is episode four, airingnow on Texas. Now we proceed through

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various other states, and what youfind in an upcoming state is that we
stumble upon a homeless encampment of migrantswho were they literally crossed the border at
Eagle Pass. This is the stateof Colorado. We're up in Colorado,
very far from the border, andthere's this sea of tents in the Debt

(37:37):
of Winter when we film this ofthese migrants who were given a free two
week hotel stay at the hands ofour tax dollars. So they got a
free bus ticket or a plane rideand then a free hotel, all paid
for by us, but that onlylasted for two weeks. Now they're homeless
in a tent in the debt ofWinter in Colorado, these people from Venezuela

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who don't speak English, and they'relike, am I going to survive in
America? And so what we seemto be witnessing is a massive scam against
these people from around the world seekinga better life, and against the American
people who are who are funding itagainst their will. And some of that
gets exposed in this docu series thatis very cool ivery hacker follow her on

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social med You can find her onTwitter, YouTube, Instagram. Where's your
biggest audience. I assume YouTube iswhere you're putting long form content hut.
I do long form news analysis onYouTube, but my biggest audience is actually
Instagram. I have two hundred thousandfollowers right there. Where have you been
censored the most TikTok really? Yes. They completely wiped out my TikTok profile.

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At one point I appealed, saying, look, I went to one
of the best journalism schools in America. I do journalism. This is uncalled
for, and they actually believed itand put me back on TikTok. But
they've taken down more of my journalisticposts than any other platform. TikTok is
a very bro censorship for me.It is Facebook. We have four hundred
and fifty thousand followers on our Facebookaccount. There are seven people that can

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see us streaming right now. Ihave about forty thousand followers on Twitter.
There's almost two hundred people watching usthere. I mean, if that's not
a shadow band, I don't knowwhat is. How are four hundred fifty
thousand people following us and only sevenpeople can see this live stream. Yeah,
that's pretty bad. I'm right now. I don't get a lot of
engagement on Facebook either, and whoknows why. But as far as strikes

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and deleting your posts and saying thatyou know, fact checking you and whatnot,
I've received most of that on TikTok. But I've received a lot of
that on Instagram and Facebook. I'vereceived Facebook fact checks written by politifacts that
are fake. Sure, of coursethey are. Yeah, and it's garbage

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because early on, a lot ofit was censoring people and telling them you
can't talk about the Wuhan lab leaktheory. Now that's the most common in
theory about how the pandemic started.We got to wrap this up. I
rehacker. Follow her on Twitter andsocial media wherever you're at, and you
know, YouTube, and of coursecheck out the work that she just did.
You could find on Unified called Beyondthe Surface of America. I thank

(40:14):
you so much for coming in today, and thank you for the work that
you do. I think it's reallycool that you did this. Thank you
for having me. Oh and reallyquick, be careful when you search for
me on TikTok. There's a tonof fake profiles of me that actually have
more followers than me. I thinkthat's the difference between being a guy and
a girl on social media. Ifound a profile that has like one hundred
thousand followers, a million likes.It's not me. It's just on TikTok

(40:37):
and you've reported it. They're justreposting my stuff. And I was like,
Okay, that's good. They're amplifyingmy voice, but they're not me.
I think it's cool that you foundthe account I created for you,
that's all. I just hope theydon't have like scam links for you to
click and then you get robbed ofyour money. So just be careful about
the fake profiles. I one hundredpercent guarantee that they do. Anyway,
we got to run. I'm KennyWebster. Thanks for watching, Thanks for

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listening, y'all, you are listeningto the Pursuit of Happiness Radial. Tell
the government to kiss your ass whenyou listen to the show.