November 10, 2025 • 40 mins
This podcast edition of Kenny Webster's Pursuit of Happiness features former Harris County DA Kim Ogg and journalist Tony Ortiz. ( @KennethRWebster )
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:24):
This just in a California city has banned tobacco, all tobacco, cigarettes,
smoking pipes, vapes. You can't shoot tobacco anymore, completely banned.
Some people are really surprised by it, but it actually
makes a lot of sense because you don't want those
unsightly ashtrays to get in the way of the homeless encampment.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
It's good job, California. You're doing awesome out there.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Hi, everybody. Kenny Webster here, who's here this afternoon? Tony
Ortiz is stopping by. We are going to take a
look at this very suspicious truck accident out of Corrigan,
Texas that happened over two years ago, where people are
just now all finally getting arrested for it. Some it
involved two college students who died, and some have suggested
there was a bizarre cover up with the local law enforcement.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
We'll tell you the story. Stick around for that.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Also, former Harris County District Attorney Kim Ogg is stopping by.
She is one of those well, former common sense Democrat
who kind of joined the Republican Party and became a
supporter of people like Ted Cruz for example.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Stick around.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It's a Monday afternoon edition at Kenny Webster's Pursuit of Happiness.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
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Speaker 4 (01:29):
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Speaker 3 (01:34):
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Speaker 2 (01:41):
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Speaker 3 (01:45):
I thought he set something else. Whoo.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I was wondering if we could play this on the radio.
Flag Town he said, Okay, wasn't taught.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Never mind?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Why why is everybody looking at me like that? Hey,
welcome back from break kids. You know who's joining us
in a little bit. Obviously you don't know. I haven't
told you yet, But former Harris County District Attorney Kim
Ogg is stopping by. She's one of those ex Democrats
who switched signs, and we're going to talk about that,
among other things.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
But before we.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Get to any of that, it's been almost three years
after an eighteen wheeler was involved in the deaths of
two Steven f Austin University students. It was a huge
trucking company truck driver and the company owner himself. They
have been arrested for allegedly tampering with evidence. Now, lately,
there's been a lot of news stories about trucks being
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piloted by illegal immigrants. I don't know the details of
this story yet, so I reached out to one of
the most outspoken journalists in the state of Texas who's
covering it. That would be Tony Ortiz of Current Revolt
dot com. Tony, this is a sad story, but it's
even sadder when you look at how it's being handled.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Am I correct?
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Right?
Speaker 6 (02:53):
So?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah? Correct.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Back in January of twenty twenty three, a huge trucking
company driver driving at a wheeler pulled out into a
to do a left turn, leaving his trailer kind of
hanging out in the oncoming traffic, and too Stephen of
Austin students crashed into his trailer. One of the driver
died immediately and the other was airlifted to a hospital
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where he later passed away.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Now, the police determined that these these students were driving
the speed limit, they weren't breaking any laws, and you
know they they went on to investigate this and they
ended up no billing the criminal charges on the truck driver. Now,
the family of one of the of one of the
students suspected foul play and and and in the sense
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that you know, something wasn't wasn't adding up, and they
had requested the dash cam for the truck be turned
over as part of evidence.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Because it was never it was never turned over.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
The lawyers for the truck driver and the truck company
initially said that there was no dash cam at all,
which is incredibly interesting because the family then provided the
dash the bodycam footage for one of the officers on
the scene of the crime, and in the bodycam and
that we published on our website, you can clearly see
that there is a dash cam. And so essentially, and
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we'll go into more details here in a bit, but essentially,
the the driver and allied or at least didn't provide
at least openly that he had this dash cam, and
they hid that from both police and it seemingly their
own attorneys.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Okay, So obviously pretty glaring example of some dishonesty here.
And so what's happened since then?
Speaker 5 (04:40):
So, the family of the of one of these students
grayland Spring, the attorney had you know, filed more charges,
and the mother of Grayland Spring had reached out to
Texas Rangers and helps and trying to determine what has
actually actually gone on here and to investigate possible tampering.
So after you know, the the attorneys for these students
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had basically provided evidence saying.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Hey, this dash can exists.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
The attorneys for the trucking company sent off or requested
a copy here, requested that camera be sent off for
imaging meaning copying. Well, when this forensic guy they hired,
this this tech guy hired they hired to make a copy,
attempted to make a copy, he was unable to there
was no data on the SD card. Now, DPS investigated
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this and interviewed both the truck driver and the trucking
drug trunk company owner, and they both admitted that they
did not turn over this evidence to police. The trucking
company owner, who had taken the dash camera from the
truck driver, stated that he never intended to wipe anything
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and that he never did anything to the SD camera,
But DPS had gone ahead and issued an arrest of
warrant for both the owner and the the truck driver
the truck owner and the truck company owner as well
issued to warrants for their arrest, and they were booked
into Polk County Jail last week and they did eventually
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post their their bonds. It's really interesting. So now we're
seeing that these truck drivers are being held accountable for
potentially tampering with evidence.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Police bodycam, but it shows a conversation between officers at
the scene of the accident. The incident is a hot
potato for them because it involves Hughes Trucking company. Another
officer says, Hughes owns the majority of the city. Okay,
but it's not like it's some giant city or someone. Look,
I'm not sure I quite understand their logic here, because
the guy owns a bunch of buildings in town.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
He's above the law.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Well, that's what's interesting, right, And I'm not making any
implications here, and I don't think a lot of people are.
But it is odd that you know that the police
would drop this line like, oh, hey, we're glad some
more people would here because this guy the owner of
the company drug cup of heels city. And they look
a little like skittish about this, right, And you know
after this accident happened, the trucking company owner does show up. Additionally,
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some more things are kind of interesting about this case.
When it first went to trial, the Spring family attorney
alleged that the Polk County DA, who was in charge
of kind of prosecuting all this, the DA's paaralegal had
a personal relationship with the trucking company owner, and it
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was hinted that this was a possible point of influence
for the ultimate decision to no bill the driver for
this instance, and the Polk County DA would go on
to admit that her paralegal and Ken Hughes, the owner
of the trucking company, did know each other personally, but
she didn't believe that the relationship affected the result of
this case. But it went so far as the pair
of legal even typed up a statement for Ken Hughes,
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sent it to him for review, and that he later
signed that agreement that the paralegal herself had a type
for him.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It's such a weird story because most people probably never
even heard a cor Agan, Texas. It's not a big
town or anything, but just like any little town, there
are politics there. There's a dichotomy there's a hierarchy of
people that live in the community, there's a power structure,
and you, as a journalist, being one of the only
people covering the story, have basically figured it out, haven't you,
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or I mean some some insinuation of what it might entail.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Well, you know, there's there's there's over two hundred, two
hundred pages of depositions for this trial and lots of
emails and court documents to go over, and it's just
very suspicious and very odd. And uh, you know, when
I started working on this story last month, they these
guys hadn't been arrested. And then as I'm working on it,
to get a phone call saying, hey, go run these
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guys background and sure enough, they had been picked up
by DPS for interfering with evidence and interfering and tampering
with evidence.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
So I think it's kind of a big deal that, you.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Know, you've got this this trunking company that and truck
driver that was potentially responsible for the deaths of two
students who had very bright futures ahead of them, and
they had tampered with the possible evidence that would have,
you know, shown that they were responsible for these deaths.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Directly.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
So it's interesting how deep you dive into the story here.
You pointed out that grayland Spring passed away in twenty
twenty three, but he lives on as an organ donor.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
How'd you figure that out? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:23):
So on the website they studied a foundation for one
of the one of the students who passed away, and
on the website it does show that he was an
organ donor.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
And when he passed away.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Is the most of his the majority of his body
was intact, so he was able to donate successfully donate
his heart, two kidneys, his liver, and a cornea. And
so he does sort of live on in that way.
And the mother of the mother of the student that
passed away does regularly visit these these these receivers of
these of his organs, and they're doing they're doing well.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Wow that you know what? That's I that does kind
of make me tear up a little bit, Tony. That's
a silver lining. Are you an organ donor.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Him? I mean neither.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And I always have you ever heard the urban myth
that they'll let you die if you're an organ donor?
I don't know if that's true or not, but someone
tells you that once and it just sticks in your head,
doesn't it.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Yeah, it really does, And you know, admittingly that's the
reason I used to be that's the reason I pulled
it off. I don't know if that's true or not,
so who knows?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Who knows?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
The other thing I wonder is this, Statistically speaking, you
meet a woman on a dating app, or you meet,
you know, some random person at a bar.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
There's a lot of weirdos out there.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You learn that, right, So, using that same logic towards
donating organs, how do you know you're not donating the
organ to a crazy person?
Speaker 3 (10:44):
You don't.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
That's just the gamble you give when you when you
become a donor.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I suppose, like.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
If I hadn't donated my liver to that guy, he
wouldn't have gone on a shooting spree at the orphanage.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
I guess that happens.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, all right, let's talk about it quickly, moving past that,
because obviously no one wants to hear about that.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Many people are saying.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Every Friday, Tony publishes something on Current Revolt dot com
called many People are Saying and what it details is
not necessarily news, but things people are talking about gossip
rumors in the Texas political scene. This week you did
a story on somebody who is a very popular child,
but he himself has become a little controversial in the
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Harris County Republican Party. I don't know how many people
know this, but the otis Daniel, the father of DJ
Daniel Tony. He was supposed to do this radio show
three different times. I've never talked about this publicly on
the air before. Seemed like a nice enough guy on
the telephone. Blew off this radio show three different times,
either didn't show up or showed up an hour late
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or for the interview, so we didn't end up interviewing
him before the election where he recently ran in Texas
Congressional District eighteen, previously a position held by Sheila Jackson
Lee and Sylvester t. Again, this is the father of
the famous cancer patient to Donald Trump made a secret
Service agent. What did you learn about in your new
report about him?
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Well, I learned that not a lot of people know
who this guy is. As you mentioned, you know, the
elections were last week. He and Is Daniel only got
nine hundred and thirty seven votes out of seventy six
thousand ballots passed. There were four other Republicans on the
ballot and besides him, and he performed the worst out
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of all of them. But what's interesting about this guy
is he's kind of done this media tour where he
shows up to a lot of these events with his
son DJ Daniel, who's famous for reasons as you mentioned.
But you know, I'll just flat out say, it does
seem like it's a grift. It seems like he is
using this as a platform to make money or to
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build up like a social media following. Elon Musk even donate.
He did a free cyber truck to this guy. But
here's what's interesting about his background. He is running as
a Republican. I ran his voting history, and the only
times he voted prior to this year was in twenty
twenty four. He voted twice. He voted in the primary.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
He voted twice, Tony, he voted twice. That's voter fraud.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
That's so funny because that's exactly what he freaked out
about when I called him. I said, you voted twice
in twenty twenty four, and he and his quote unquote
campaign manager about lost it on the phone. Screaming about
voter fraud. It wasn't until I informed them that that
is a very normal thing to vote twice in one
year because we have primary in general, that they calmed down. Now,
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what's interesting about DJ Daniel?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Sorry?
Speaker 5 (13:43):
I theotis Daniel though, is that he's running as a
Republican in his office that he's running for, but he
voted in the Democratic primary. When I brought this up
to him, he initially claimed that he was confused, that
he didn't know what he voted for, and then he
would later go on to change his story, stating that
it was impossible that he voted twice and that he
only physically voted once. So I went on and I
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went ahead and submitted a public information request to the
Harris County Clerk's Election department, and they not only provided
the time and the date stamps for when FIODA Daniel
physically voted in person for in the Democratic primary, but
they even provided me the copies of his signature. So
he physically went in signed the ballot that he needed
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to sign, and the signature for the primary, and the
Democratic election matches up with the one in the general,
So I do have reason to believe that he's not
too that he did not tell me the truth when
he said that he only voted once.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Tony, I really wanted to like the Otis Daniel, and
I never talked about this on the air before, but
I've had my own weird experiences talking to this guy.
Sometimes people will do this thing where Republican candidates will
run in a deep blue district where the Democrats always
win by fifty.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Points, they'll lose.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Then they'll accuse the party of not doing enough to
help them, or suggest that there was voter fraud or
something like that. In this case, the guy only got
nine hundred votes. Now again, I want to like the
Otis Daniel, but he's gone around. Look and Cindy Siegel
and I have had our differences, but he's criticizing her
for not doing enough, the head of the chair of
the Harriscotti Republican Party, for not doing enough to help
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him out. I don't know what she could have done
to help him. He came in let me see here, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven.
He came in eleventh place in that race. There's that
many people running in that race that he came in
eleventh and it won't matter because in a few months
or whatever, this won't even be a congressional district anymore.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Right, and he's still committed to running in the district anyway.
But here's the thing. It's a D as it is currently,
it is a D plus twenty one district. He never
stood a chance, nobody, not even the even the Republican
who of the of the of the many that ran
the top Republican only got five thousand votes.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Right, and that place, and that was fourth place. The
top three positions, we're all Democrats. For those that don't
know what was this guy's name, Christian Meneffi is the
guy that won. I don't know who he is, but
I did know who The next two people were, Amanda
f Were Edwards and Jolanda Jones. Jolanda Jones is a name.
She's been all over the news lately. She came in
third place. She's a Democrat. Everybody knows who Joelanda Jones
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and she used to be in the Isaiah Martin, he's
a Democrat that's been all over the news lately because
he pretended he got arrested at a state legislator legislature hearing,
and then he said he conducted a town hall in
the jail where everybody said they were interested in free childcare,
and like that didn't happen. There's so many grifters in
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this election here that it almost feels unfair to criticize
the Otis Daniel.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
But you know, not for nothing here, it does seem
kind of weird. He just showed up on the scene
as soon as his son became famous. Look, someone's gonna
not like us for doing this radio segment. That's okay.
The truth is the only thing that matters. Never wore
a cowboy hat before he ran for office, as far
as we could.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Tell, Well, there are some photos of him wearing a
cowboy head. But it is interesting that a lot of
these candidates, and we've got a bigger piece up on
our website, but a lot of these candidates kind of
put on this cowboy cosplay when they decide to run
for office, where all of a sudden, you know, they
find themselves as Texans and it's almost like they put
on like the stereotype of what they think of Texan is.
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We've got several candidates that we covered as far as
analyzing whether they're grifters or real candidates. One of them
prior to coming here with a Beverly Hills co op
and all of a sudden he comes here, throws on
the cowboy cosplay and decides to run for Congress against
Ken Paxton, Wesley Hunt, and John Barnett and insists that
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he the real candidate. So you've got a lot of
these figures that are just I don't know, it doesn't
seem like they're seriously running, and that it's more of
employed to get followers on the internet than it is
to actually win the elections they're running him.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, there's a guy named Pete Chambers. He calls himself
Doc Pete Chambers. He puts doc in quotation. He's a
holistic medicine expert who doesn't like vaccines.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Some have questioned his military service, suggesting that he's not
being honest about the fact that he operated on people
in the military.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
He moved here, he voted in one election.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
He ran for governor, put on a cowboy hat, and
endorsed the sketchiest Republican candidate in the state, a woman
in Dan Crenshaw's district who's running, who has nine aliases
and changed her name shortly before running for office. Some
speculate to avoid background checks. Tony's written articles about her
as well. We've gone way along on this segment, so
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we need to wrap it up here. But Tony, great
job on this. Once again. The truth isn't always what
people want to hear, but it's probably the most important thing,
isn't it.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Absolutely As you mentioned, this Pea Chambers guy is becoming
really popular with the smallest of the smallest groups of
the conservative right. And I would say to them, they're
going to be upset about hearing that their guy that
they like is probably not always cracked up to be.
But I would say, maybe it's a better idea to
keep keep your money close than than than them blowing
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on guy like this.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
He's running against the governor, has a seventy million dollar
war chest or one hundred and twenty, so I'm upstart
Tom and he's got fifteen thousand dollars and he lives
in an RV park or something like that.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Some due to that effect, I mean you you you know,
I don't want to get too much into the woods,
but you had a multimillionaire, a very beloved grassroots candidate
and former congressman and internet celebrity all run against against
Greg Abbott four years ago and they all lost. Yeah,
they lost. They could even primary him. Chad Kruger a runoff.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Chad Pray, Aaron West, and Don Haffeims. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I don't want to jump to conclusions here, Tony Ortiz
of Current Revolt dot com, But I don't think this
Pete Chambers guy is gonna win.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
He has absolutely no chance.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Is that, ladies and gentlemen, pursuit of happiness radio you
and now it.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Is sad.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
The man who discovered the structure of DNA has died.
His legacy will live on whenever you shine a black
light on your comforter at Motel six. Hey, everybody, we're
gonna have Kim aug with us in just a little bit,
the former District Attorney of Harris County. There was until
very recently a gag order on her because of the
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Joscelyn Nungary case. She's going to tell that story and
a whole lot more right after this. But first, Happy
two hundred and fiftieth birthday to the Marines. Once a marine,
always a marine. And you know what's fascinating about that?
It all started in a bar.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
Happy birthday to the United States Marine Corps, the only
branch of the military. They can say with a straight
face they were born in a bar, and not just
any bar, the original Ton Tavern. Sure, the original building
was torn down in seventeen eighty one, but Marine veteran
money dom rebuilt it a block away, which kind of
feels right.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Marines don't wait for history to come back.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
They rebuild it, shine it up, and hold the ceremony
with enough pride to crack a liberty bill. So cheers
to the Marines, the only people who can turn on
day party into a national moment and still be early
for Formation tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
SIMP five they see. Whenever you lose sight of the enemy,
look behind you. Yeah, that's a bad paranoia right there.
Probably brought on by a bong ripper too. Kenny Webster's
pursuit of happiness sort.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Of like Bobby Kennedy Junior, sort of like Elon Musk,
sort of like Tulsey Gabbard, I could, sort of like
Donald Trump. Former Harrison County District Attorney Kim Ogg was
a Democrat who was a liberal, but she was a
common sense sort of like Mayor John Whitmeyer. She was
one of these people that everybody mistook for a run
of the mill Democrat until they realized, oh, she actually
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cares about crime, She actually cares about reasonable people, what
you know, socially liberal who cares it's her job to
prosecute criminals. And so kim Ogg was one of those
don't know what you've got till it's gone candidates. When
we had her, some of us thought, oh, no, you know,
Mary Anne Huffman, we want one of these others. We
want one of these Republicans to be the district attorney.
Looking back on it, I mean now we with Sean Tierre,
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we miss kim Ogg not long ago. She's on the
line right now. Thanks so much for your time this afternoon.
Do I call you Attorney Ogg? What is the proper
name for the former DA Just kim Ogg?
Speaker 6 (22:15):
No, it's just Yes, it's just Kim Ogg. And I'm
the former top law enforcement official in Harris County and
that's what I did for eight years as the elected
district attorney.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I have a short story for you, and then I
want to talk about Jocelyn Nungary. A little while back,
I was eating at one of my favorite steakhouses in Uptown.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
It's called King Ranch.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
It's kind of like a bougie It's Tillman Fertita's version
of Texas Roadhouse. I'm sitting out on the patio eating
a T bone steak, and all of a sudden, some
young men I'm trying to, you know, be polite here,
happy to be black, and another young man who happened
to be Hispanic, get into a loud argument out in
front of the restaurant, and the girlfriend of the Hispanic
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gentleman gets up and walks off. She knows there's it's
about to be ugly. There's about to be a gang
fight in front of the restaurant. Police arrive. The two
young black men run off. They run to the bus
stop down the street on post Oake Boulevard. The hispanic
guy takes off, he runs off. The comps are there.
They're talking to the police for a while and it's awkward.
It gets a little ugly, and then the smoke clears,
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the dust settles, everything goes back to normal. Minutes later,
you arrive with Don Hooper from the Houston Conservative Forum.
You guys at a birthday party in that restaurant, like
right after all, this happens, and Don Hooper comes out.
He talks to me out on the patio and he says,
Kenny here, what are you doing out here? And I
tell him the story. I was like, you know how
bizarre it would be if I local right wing talk
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show host Kenny Webster had been here when a shooting
happened with some gang members, and then minutes later Kim
Ogg's birthday party happened.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Nobody would believe that story.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Everybody would think it was some weird conspiracy theory that
we were all at the same time. Did you even
know that that happened right before your birthday?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I did.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
I did, But you know, the good witnesses are always
in the bathroom when it goes down, So I'm sorry
that you were out there in the middle of it.
I'm glad that it receded, but you would have had
the perfect witness.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I had my phone out, I was ready to record,
and then just as soon as we thought it was
going to get ugly, it ended, and then Kim Ogg
and Don Hooper show up for a birthday party. I
was like, it was so surreal. I was like, am
I on pills or something? I can't believe this is
a real thing. All right, I want to talk to
you about Joscelyn Nungarye. They put a gag order on you. You
weren't supposed to for most of our listeners know this story.
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At this point, I won't even go into the details.
It's just a terrible thing that happened to this young
woman in Harris County, involving some illegal immigrants and some
disgusting Vinyl thing that took place under a bridge. I'll
stop right there with the explanation. You were one of
the loudest voices trying to call for justice.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Here.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Can you tell our listeners the story? They don't know
what happened? Why was there a gag order?
Speaker 6 (24:54):
In June of twenty twenty four, twelve year old Joscelyn
Ungeray left her house without her mom knowing it, was
on the phone with her boyfriend and unfortunately intersected with
two Venezuelan nationals. They ended up luring her or kidnapping her.
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They took her to a remote spot down by the bio,
near her apartment, but not obviously adjacent to it, and
she they've been accused and charged with raping and murdering her,
which is capital murder, an offense punishable by death. In Texas,
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I was the elected district attorney. We filed the charges
we were prosecuting, and the defense lawyers did not like
the fact that some public officials running for office that
wasn't me were utilizing the case as an example of
the consequences criminal consequences of open borders. And it was effective.
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It resonated. The message resonated with Americans. Many of us
don't want open borders. Those of us who want public
safety and want safe streets have grave concerns about the
last administration's lack of willingness to do anything about stopping
people from coming into our country, some of whom are
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charged with extremely serious crimes like Payna and Rangell in
this case. And so I talked about it, and the
defense filed a motion to put a gag order not
just on me, but on the victim's mother. But they
should have put a gag order. The way the thing
was written was so overbroad that it really included the
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President of the United States when he talked about the
case in his State of the Union address and also
when he mentioned it at the Republican Convention. It should
have to Ted Cruz because it was really anyone who
spoke about the case. That could have been you, It
could have been any journalists. So it was an overbroad
order that we did not believe was enforceable. I gave
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a press conference announcing we would seek death. That was
in December of twenty twenty four, right before I left office,
and I've continued to give interviews about it. I gave
one as a private citizen, and I talked to some
political groups about it. And the response of the District
Attorney and the defense has been to spend more time
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and money trying to prosecute me for allegedly violating a
gag order that we did not believe was enforceable and
isn't enforceable. Then they have spent prosecuting the alleged murderers.
Though it's an ironic story that could only match your
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story about the near gang shootout followed by my entrants
to the King Ranch kitchen. Only in Texas could you
get a sort of selected da like Sean Tier to
team up with the defense Lesa Andrews and others to
ask Judge Josh Hill to hold me in contempt for
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violating an order that at least our office, the same
lawyer seeking contempt charges had pronounced as unenforceable and objected
to the gag orders unenforceable. I don't know if I'm
making sense, but the bottom line is they've spent more
time trying to prosecute me for alleged contempt than they
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have the folks who are charged with murdering and raping Jocelyn.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
And you explained it pretty clearly.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I mean, you know, George Soros in the left tried
to silence you early on a lot of people associated
with you, that you with those people, and in the end,
ultimately you turned out to be, at least here in
Harris County, one of their biggest critics and one of
their biggest opponents.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Do you think there was a turning point?
Speaker 6 (28:57):
And that's why the sure, I mean, I think that's
why the Chronicle continues to defame me every chance they get.
I think that Hirst is obviously some arm of the
Soros kind of pack and mechanism or vice versa. But
I received money from George Soros in twenty sixteen without
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asking for it, without any quid pro quo. I've never
met the people that run the foundation I think they
believed I was going to beat a Republican incumbent, which
I did when bail reform was introduced by Texas not
the Texas the Civil Rights Corporation of the United States.
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They're an extremely liberal group of lawyers off the East Coast.
They wanted to implement cashless bail here. And what they
got was I agreed on misdemeanor nonviolent crimes, but I
wasn't going to agree on or terroristic threat or stalking
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or some of the other serious, serious misdemeanors. And so
I started putting up a fight about that. Well, that
made me public enemy number one. And when I definitely
disagreed with cashless bail for felony offenders, I became the
enemy greater than greater than Donald Trump almost, I mean.
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And so the party mechanism, controlled by some elected people
here in Harris County really went after me hard. They
weren't able to take me out in twenty I defeated
three opponents, but they were able to take me out
in a primary election in twenty twenty four. That was
shortly before Joscelyn was murdered and before the persecution of
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Kim Ogg for how dare I talk about the horrors
of open borders and the criminal results that I witnessed
over and over, crimes committed by illegal aliens. I mean
Joscelyn Nungerrace cases, the tip of the Iceberg. There were
many others. There was Charles Galloway, a deputy from Precinct five,
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murdered by a Salvadorian national. There were thousands of such cases.
And I couldn't ever be for open borders. I would
never embrace such a foolhardy platform. And so I was
a Democrat calling out other Democrats, and that that is
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not done very often.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, and so it's kind of a poorly kept secret
in the legal community that you're being considered by Trump
to the next attorney for the Southern District of Texas.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I would endorse that idea. I think it's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
If you were accepted the position, or if you were
offered the position, would you accept.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
Well, I've submitted my name for nomination, and that's just
an application process. I'm sure there are lots of good candidates,
and I'll respect whatever decision the President makes. So the
answer is certainly I would, if nominated and confirmed, would
love to serve in that role as the chief federal
prosecutor in the Southern District. But I understand there's always
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a lot of good people up for appointments, and I
respect the process.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
All right.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
So when you came out and you supported Ted Cruz
and a handful of other Republicans, I wouldn't be surprised
to find out you've got some criticism. Maybe some people
didn't want to talk to you anymore. Did you lose
any friends or people in your personal life when that happened.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
I didn't lose any real friends. I endorsed Ted Cruz
because he filed the Justice for Joscelyn Bill and actually
gave a damn about crime victims, promised to fight for them,
and promised to try and make our community safer.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
You know, I don't.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
I'm not a voter that believes I have to agree
with everyone about everything. I found myself. You know, I
was raised as a conservative Democrat, and so in my household,
because I was younger than my dad, who was a
conservative Democrat state senator here, I was considered the liberal Democrat. Well,
when the New York Times finally called me a conservative Democrat,
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thinking they would insult me, I framed it. I think
that what I said on the commercial for Ted Cruz
is exactly how most people feel, and it was this,
Americans are tired of hearing why Democrats and Republicans won't
work together to solve our problems. I'm willing to work
with Ted Cruz because he's willing to help solve our problems.
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And so I don't give a damn about the people
who wouldn't speak to me or wrote ugly notes, because
everybody's got an opinion. But democracy is a participatory sport.
It's a full body contact sport, and if we want
a free country, we have to be involved. So that's
that's why I supported him. That's why I support the
President's immigration and deportation platform, because it's best for public safety.
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I'm for legal immigration. I'm for a faster, swifter process
that will allow people who want the benefits of America
to become Americans. But I'm only for legal immigration. So
I find that illegal immigration has contributed tremendously to crime
in Harris County, and I can only speak for our jurisdiction,
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but in eight years we filed get this number, three thousand,
five hundred plus murders if you do the math, it's
more than one a day. Many of those crimes were
committed by illegal aliens. And when you meet the families,
grieving families, mothers, brothers, sisters, husbands, wives, it changes you.
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And it, let me say, it femented my commitment to
help elect people concerned with our safety and if that
meant going to the other party in voting across the aisle.
So what I did it. I'm proud of it, and
I continue on paper to be a Democrat. Many here
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don't consider me democrats, but I will tell you I
reflect a lot of regular people's beliefs.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
You are not the only one.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Over the weekend, Mayor John Whitmeyer was a guest speaker
at a conference hosted by former Chema Mayor Bill King
Rice University Baker Institute for Public Policy event. They talked
about that New York Times article from a few weeks
back that basically said John Whitmeyer is one of these wacky,
kooky municipal Democrat leaders who isn't interested in trying to
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get rid of Trump. He's trying to get rid of
speed potholes and fix the speed bumps in his town.
And somehow Weirdly, he was attacked for this over the weekend.
He stated that the city of Houston is cooperating with ICE.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I mean, I think they should be.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
You have criminal, illegal aliens in the city that are
involved in organized crime, and I don't know why that
is controversial. I was wondering if you had any thoughts
on that.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
I do. It's part of why the Democratic Party lost
their butts in the last election. They are so out
of touch with most Americans who just want our government
to pick up the garbage, keep our borders safe, and
make it okay for us to go to the grocery
store at night without getting robbed. Most Houstonians place crime
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at the top of their list of concerns, and that's
because under the last mayor, it really was out of
control between he and county local government run by Democrats.
Here the cashless bail policies, the refusal to allow police
officers to arrest certain people for certain things. We have
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a duty to work with other law enforcement agencies, especially
federal agencies, and when we can force multiply by bringing
in federal agents to help enforce public safety laws. I'm
grateful Senator Whitmyer now mayor of Whitmyer took my father's
seat in nineteen eighty three in the Texas Senate and
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he's been my state senator ever since. I support what
Mayor Whitmyre does. He won by a wide margin, and
I think that shows that most Houstonians believe in what
we're talking about. They just want limited government to perform
the major duties that government is responsible for, and the
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number one duty is to keep us safe. So I
applaud Mayor Whitmyer. I have canceled my subscription to the
Houston Chronicle, and the subscription to the New York Times
will likely follow, because they just can't seem to give
us ordinary Democrats who believe what our constituents believe and
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try to affect that fair shake. There's always an opinion
somehow that.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
I remember a time when murder was not controversial. We
were all against it. Now it seems to be conditional.
If you're a Democrat and certain people commit murder, well,
really they're the victim, and the actual crime victim is
almost villainized. So with the world turned on it's ear,
I see more people coming back to common sense, voting
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whichever party best reflects it, and right now the Republican
Party best reflects it in Harris County.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
You know what, I think that was perfectly stated. So
just one more question for you. To those you are
just turning on your radio. I'm speaking to former Harris
County District Attorney km Ogg.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
What is next for you?
Speaker 6 (38:45):
Well, you know, I'm here practicing law at a fun
boutique litigation firm, Gregor Wynn Arnie. I'm getting that plug
in for the firm, and call me if you need me.
In the meantime, we'll wait and see what President Trump
does with these ointments to the US Attorney's office and
in all the districts in Texas that are left open,
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the federal benches that are left open, and we'll see
if the public doesn't demand more public safety through the
next election, especially when it comes to judges. I can
tell you I'll be rooting for the good guys, and
the way I see it is many of those folks
happen to be on the Red team, and that's who
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I'm going to vote for.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Amen to that.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Hey, I appreciate you, Thanks so much for your time
this afternoon. Follow Kim Hogg on social media. I presume
you're on Action and Instagram.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Are you still a Yeah, we're on everything. Yeah, absolutely,
we're on everything. I'll put this, I'll put this.
Speaker 6 (39:41):
If I can get a copy of this interview, we'll
post it or will like yours and reposts. So thank
you so much for the opportunity to talk to my constituents.
I'm grateful to the people who elected me, and they
were by the way Democrats and Republicans elected me their
strict attorney. And I enjoyed serving you, and I hope
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serve you again in the future in some capacity.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Well, I sure hope you do. Hey to the rest
of you, I hope you'll have an awesome afternoon. We'll
be back bright and early tomorrow morning for more of
what you bought a radio for. God bless all of you,
and God bless Texas.
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smoking pipes, vapes. You can't shoot tobacco anymore, completely banned.
Some people are really surprised by it, but it actually
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Speaker 3 (00:44):
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Speaker 2 (00:47):
Hi, everybody. Kenny Webster here, who's here this afternoon? Tony
Ortiz is stopping by. We are going to take a
look at this very suspicious truck accident out of Corrigan,
Texas that happened over two years ago, where people are
just now all finally getting arrested for it. Some it
involved two college students who died, and some have suggested
there was a bizarre cover up with the local law enforcement.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
We'll tell you the story. Stick around for that.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
Also, former Harris County District Attorney Kim Ogg is stopping by.
She is one of those well, former common sense Democrat
who kind of joined the Republican Party and became a
supporter of people like Ted Cruz for example.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Stick around.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
It's a Monday afternoon edition at Kenny Webster's Pursuit of Happiness.
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Speaker 3 (01:45):
I thought he set something else. Whoo.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
I was wondering if we could play this on the radio.
Flag Town he said, Okay, wasn't taught.
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Never mind?
Speaker 2 (01:55):
Why why is everybody looking at me like that? Hey,
welcome back from break kids. You know who's joining us
in a little bit. Obviously you don't know. I haven't
told you yet, But former Harris County District Attorney Kim
Ogg is stopping by. She's one of those ex Democrats
who switched signs, and we're going to talk about that,
among other things.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
But before we.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Get to any of that, it's been almost three years
after an eighteen wheeler was involved in the deaths of
two Steven f Austin University students. It was a huge
trucking company truck driver and the company owner himself. They
have been arrested for allegedly tampering with evidence. Now, lately,
there's been a lot of news stories about trucks being
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piloted by illegal immigrants. I don't know the details of
this story yet, so I reached out to one of
the most outspoken journalists in the state of Texas who's
covering it. That would be Tony Ortiz of Current Revolt
dot com. Tony, this is a sad story, but it's
even sadder when you look at how it's being handled.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Am I correct?
Speaker 5 (02:52):
Right?
Speaker 6 (02:53):
So?
Speaker 3 (02:53):
Yeah? Correct.
Speaker 5 (02:54):
Back in January of twenty twenty three, a huge trucking
company driver driving at a wheeler pulled out into a
to do a left turn, leaving his trailer kind of
hanging out in the oncoming traffic, and too Stephen of
Austin students crashed into his trailer. One of the driver
died immediately and the other was airlifted to a hospital
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where he later passed away.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Uh.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Now, the police determined that these these students were driving
the speed limit, they weren't breaking any laws, and you
know they they went on to investigate this and they
ended up no billing the criminal charges on the truck driver. Now,
the family of one of the of one of the
students suspected foul play and and and in the sense
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that you know, something wasn't wasn't adding up, and they
had requested the dash cam for the truck be turned
over as part of evidence.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Because it was never it was never turned over.
Speaker 5 (03:53):
The lawyers for the truck driver and the truck company
initially said that there was no dash cam at all,
which is incredibly interesting because the family then provided the
dash the bodycam footage for one of the officers on
the scene of the crime, and in the bodycam and
that we published on our website, you can clearly see
that there is a dash cam. And so essentially, and
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we'll go into more details here in a bit, but essentially,
the the driver and allied or at least didn't provide
at least openly that he had this dash cam, and
they hid that from both police and it seemingly their
own attorneys.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Okay, So obviously pretty glaring example of some dishonesty here.
And so what's happened since then?
Speaker 5 (04:40):
So, the family of the of one of these students
grayland Spring, the attorney had you know, filed more charges,
and the mother of Grayland Spring had reached out to
Texas Rangers and helps and trying to determine what has
actually actually gone on here and to investigate possible tampering.
So after you know, the the attorneys for these students
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had basically provided evidence saying.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Hey, this dash can exists.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
The attorneys for the trucking company sent off or requested
a copy here, requested that camera be sent off for
imaging meaning copying. Well, when this forensic guy they hired,
this this tech guy hired they hired to make a copy,
attempted to make a copy, he was unable to there
was no data on the SD card. Now, DPS investigated
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this and interviewed both the truck driver and the trucking
drug trunk company owner, and they both admitted that they
did not turn over this evidence to police. The trucking
company owner, who had taken the dash camera from the
truck driver, stated that he never intended to wipe anything
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and that he never did anything to the SD camera,
But DPS had gone ahead and issued an arrest of
warrant for both the owner and the the truck driver
the truck owner and the truck company owner as well
issued to warrants for their arrest, and they were booked
into Polk County Jail last week and they did eventually
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post their their bonds. It's really interesting. So now we're
seeing that these truck drivers are being held accountable for
potentially tampering with evidence.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Police bodycam, but it shows a conversation between officers at
the scene of the accident. The incident is a hot
potato for them because it involves Hughes Trucking company. Another
officer says, Hughes owns the majority of the city. Okay,
but it's not like it's some giant city or someone. Look,
I'm not sure I quite understand their logic here, because
the guy owns a bunch of buildings in town.
Speaker 3 (06:43):
He's above the law.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Well, that's what's interesting, right, And I'm not making any
implications here, and I don't think a lot of people are.
But it is odd that you know that the police
would drop this line like, oh, hey, we're glad some
more people would here because this guy the owner of
the company drug cup of heels city. And they look
a little like skittish about this, right, And you know
after this accident happened, the trucking company owner does show up. Additionally,
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some more things are kind of interesting about this case.
When it first went to trial, the Spring family attorney
alleged that the Polk County DA, who was in charge
of kind of prosecuting all this, the DA's paaralegal had
a personal relationship with the trucking company owner, and it
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was hinted that this was a possible point of influence
for the ultimate decision to no bill the driver for
this instance, and the Polk County DA would go on
to admit that her paralegal and Ken Hughes, the owner
of the trucking company, did know each other personally, but
she didn't believe that the relationship affected the result of
this case. But it went so far as the pair
of legal even typed up a statement for Ken Hughes,
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sent it to him for review, and that he later
signed that agreement that the paralegal herself had a type
for him.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
It's such a weird story because most people probably never
even heard a cor Agan, Texas. It's not a big
town or anything, but just like any little town, there
are politics there. There's a dichotomy there's a hierarchy of
people that live in the community, there's a power structure,
and you, as a journalist, being one of the only
people covering the story, have basically figured it out, haven't you,
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or I mean some some insinuation of what it might entail.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
Well, you know, there's there's there's over two hundred, two
hundred pages of depositions for this trial and lots of
emails and court documents to go over, and it's just
very suspicious and very odd. And uh, you know, when
I started working on this story last month, they these
guys hadn't been arrested. And then as I'm working on it,
to get a phone call saying, hey, go run these
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guys background and sure enough, they had been picked up
by DPS for interfering with evidence and interfering and tampering
with evidence.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
So I think it's kind of a big deal that, you.
Speaker 5 (08:55):
Know, you've got this this trunking company that and truck
driver that was potentially responsible for the deaths of two
students who had very bright futures ahead of them, and
they had tampered with the possible evidence that would have,
you know, shown that they were responsible for these deaths.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Directly.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
So it's interesting how deep you dive into the story here.
You pointed out that grayland Spring passed away in twenty
twenty three, but he lives on as an organ donor.
Speaker 3 (09:21):
How'd you figure that out? Yeah?
Speaker 5 (09:23):
So on the website they studied a foundation for one
of the one of the students who passed away, and
on the website it does show that he was an
organ donor.
Speaker 3 (09:32):
And when he passed away.
Speaker 5 (09:34):
Is the most of his the majority of his body
was intact, so he was able to donate successfully donate
his heart, two kidneys, his liver, and a cornea. And
so he does sort of live on in that way.
And the mother of the mother of the student that
passed away does regularly visit these these these receivers of
these of his organs, and they're doing they're doing well.
Speaker 2 (09:58):
Wow that you know what? That's I that does kind
of make me tear up a little bit, Tony. That's
a silver lining. Are you an organ donor.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
Him? I mean neither.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
And I always have you ever heard the urban myth
that they'll let you die if you're an organ donor?
I don't know if that's true or not, but someone
tells you that once and it just sticks in your head,
doesn't it.
Speaker 5 (10:18):
Yeah, it really does, And you know, admittingly that's the
reason I used to be that's the reason I pulled
it off. I don't know if that's true or not,
so who knows?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
Who knows?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
The other thing I wonder is this, Statistically speaking, you
meet a woman on a dating app, or you meet,
you know, some random person at a bar.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
There's a lot of weirdos out there.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
You learn that, right, So, using that same logic towards
donating organs, how do you know you're not donating the
organ to a crazy person?
Speaker 3 (10:44):
You don't.
Speaker 5 (10:45):
That's just the gamble you give when you when you
become a donor.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
I suppose, like.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
If I hadn't donated my liver to that guy, he
wouldn't have gone on a shooting spree at the orphanage.
Speaker 6 (10:56):
I guess that happens.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, all right, let's talk about it quickly, moving past that,
because obviously no one wants to hear about that.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Many people are saying.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Every Friday, Tony publishes something on Current Revolt dot com
called many People are Saying and what it details is
not necessarily news, but things people are talking about gossip
rumors in the Texas political scene. This week you did
a story on somebody who is a very popular child,
but he himself has become a little controversial in the
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Harris County Republican Party. I don't know how many people
know this, but the otis Daniel, the father of DJ
Daniel Tony. He was supposed to do this radio show
three different times. I've never talked about this publicly on
the air before. Seemed like a nice enough guy on
the telephone. Blew off this radio show three different times,
either didn't show up or showed up an hour late
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or for the interview, so we didn't end up interviewing
him before the election where he recently ran in Texas
Congressional District eighteen, previously a position held by Sheila Jackson
Lee and Sylvester t. Again, this is the father of
the famous cancer patient to Donald Trump made a secret
Service agent. What did you learn about in your new
report about him?
Speaker 5 (12:10):
Well, I learned that not a lot of people know
who this guy is. As you mentioned, you know, the
elections were last week. He and Is Daniel only got
nine hundred and thirty seven votes out of seventy six
thousand ballots passed. There were four other Republicans on the
ballot and besides him, and he performed the worst out
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of all of them. But what's interesting about this guy
is he's kind of done this media tour where he
shows up to a lot of these events with his
son DJ Daniel, who's famous for reasons as you mentioned.
But you know, I'll just flat out say, it does
seem like it's a grift. It seems like he is
using this as a platform to make money or to
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build up like a social media following. Elon Musk even donate.
He did a free cyber truck to this guy. But
here's what's interesting about his background. He is running as
a Republican. I ran his voting history, and the only
times he voted prior to this year was in twenty
twenty four. He voted twice. He voted in the primary.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
He voted twice, Tony, he voted twice. That's voter fraud.
Speaker 5 (13:20):
That's so funny because that's exactly what he freaked out
about when I called him. I said, you voted twice
in twenty twenty four, and he and his quote unquote
campaign manager about lost it on the phone. Screaming about
voter fraud. It wasn't until I informed them that that
is a very normal thing to vote twice in one
year because we have primary in general, that they calmed down. Now,
(13:40):
what's interesting about DJ Daniel?
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Sorry?
Speaker 5 (13:43):
I theotis Daniel though, is that he's running as a
Republican in his office that he's running for, but he
voted in the Democratic primary. When I brought this up
to him, he initially claimed that he was confused, that
he didn't know what he voted for, and then he
would later go on to change his story, stating that
it was impossible that he voted twice and that he
only physically voted once. So I went on and I
(14:03):
went ahead and submitted a public information request to the
Harris County Clerk's Election department, and they not only provided
the time and the date stamps for when FIODA Daniel
physically voted in person for in the Democratic primary, but
they even provided me the copies of his signature. So
he physically went in signed the ballot that he needed
(14:26):
to sign, and the signature for the primary, and the
Democratic election matches up with the one in the general,
So I do have reason to believe that he's not
too that he did not tell me the truth when
he said that he only voted once.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Tony, I really wanted to like the Otis Daniel, and
I never talked about this on the air before, but
I've had my own weird experiences talking to this guy.
Sometimes people will do this thing where Republican candidates will
run in a deep blue district where the Democrats always
win by fifty.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Points, they'll lose.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Then they'll accuse the party of not doing enough to
help them, or suggest that there was voter fraud or
something like that. In this case, the guy only got
nine hundred votes. Now again, I want to like the
Otis Daniel, but he's gone around. Look and Cindy Siegel
and I have had our differences, but he's criticizing her
for not doing enough, the head of the chair of
the Harriscotti Republican Party, for not doing enough to help
(15:16):
him out. I don't know what she could have done
to help him. He came in let me see here, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven.
He came in eleventh place in that race. There's that
many people running in that race that he came in
eleventh and it won't matter because in a few months
or whatever, this won't even be a congressional district anymore.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
Right, and he's still committed to running in the district anyway.
But here's the thing. It's a D as it is currently,
it is a D plus twenty one district. He never
stood a chance, nobody, not even the even the Republican
who of the of the of the many that ran
the top Republican only got five thousand votes.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
Right, and that place, and that was fourth place. The
top three positions, we're all Democrats. For those that don't
know what was this guy's name, Christian Meneffi is the
guy that won. I don't know who he is, but
I did know who The next two people were, Amanda
f Were Edwards and Jolanda Jones. Jolanda Jones is a name.
She's been all over the news lately. She came in
third place. She's a Democrat. Everybody knows who Joelanda Jones
(16:19):
and she used to be in the Isaiah Martin, he's
a Democrat that's been all over the news lately because
he pretended he got arrested at a state legislator legislature hearing,
and then he said he conducted a town hall in
the jail where everybody said they were interested in free childcare,
and like that didn't happen. There's so many grifters in
(16:39):
this election here that it almost feels unfair to criticize
the Otis Daniel.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
A little bit.
Speaker 2 (16:44):
But you know, not for nothing here, it does seem
kind of weird. He just showed up on the scene
as soon as his son became famous. Look, someone's gonna
not like us for doing this radio segment. That's okay.
The truth is the only thing that matters. Never wore
a cowboy hat before he ran for office, as far
as we could.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Tell, Well, there are some photos of him wearing a
cowboy head. But it is interesting that a lot of
these candidates, and we've got a bigger piece up on
our website, but a lot of these candidates kind of
put on this cowboy cosplay when they decide to run
for office, where all of a sudden, you know, they
find themselves as Texans and it's almost like they put
on like the stereotype of what they think of Texan is.
(17:20):
We've got several candidates that we covered as far as
analyzing whether they're grifters or real candidates. One of them
prior to coming here with a Beverly Hills co op
and all of a sudden he comes here, throws on
the cowboy cosplay and decides to run for Congress against
Ken Paxton, Wesley Hunt, and John Barnett and insists that
(17:41):
he the real candidate. So you've got a lot of
these figures that are just I don't know, it doesn't
seem like they're seriously running, and that it's more of
employed to get followers on the internet than it is
to actually win the elections they're running him.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
Yeah, there's a guy named Pete Chambers. He calls himself
Doc Pete Chambers. He puts doc in quotation. He's a
holistic medicine expert who doesn't like vaccines.
Speaker 3 (18:03):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
Some have questioned his military service, suggesting that he's not
being honest about the fact that he operated on people
in the military.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
He moved here, he voted in one election.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
He ran for governor, put on a cowboy hat, and
endorsed the sketchiest Republican candidate in the state, a woman
in Dan Crenshaw's district who's running, who has nine aliases
and changed her name shortly before running for office. Some
speculate to avoid background checks. Tony's written articles about her
as well. We've gone way along on this segment, so
(18:34):
we need to wrap it up here. But Tony, great
job on this. Once again. The truth isn't always what
people want to hear, but it's probably the most important thing,
isn't it.
Speaker 5 (18:45):
Absolutely As you mentioned, this Pea Chambers guy is becoming
really popular with the smallest of the smallest groups of
the conservative right. And I would say to them, they're
going to be upset about hearing that their guy that
they like is probably not always cracked up to be.
But I would say, maybe it's a better idea to
keep keep your money close than than than them blowing
(19:06):
on guy like this.
Speaker 2 (19:07):
He's running against the governor, has a seventy million dollar
war chest or one hundred and twenty, so I'm upstart
Tom and he's got fifteen thousand dollars and he lives
in an RV park or something like that.
Speaker 5 (19:18):
Some due to that effect, I mean you you you know,
I don't want to get too much into the woods,
but you had a multimillionaire, a very beloved grassroots candidate
and former congressman and internet celebrity all run against against
Greg Abbott four years ago and they all lost. Yeah,
they lost. They could even primary him. Chad Kruger a runoff.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Chad Pray, Aaron West, and Don Haffeims. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:39):
I don't want to jump to conclusions here, Tony Ortiz
of Current Revolt dot com, But I don't think this
Pete Chambers guy is gonna win.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
He has absolutely no chance.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
Is that, ladies and gentlemen, pursuit of happiness radio you
and now it.
Speaker 1 (19:55):
Is sad.
Speaker 2 (19:58):
The man who discovered the structure of DNA has died.
His legacy will live on whenever you shine a black
light on your comforter at Motel six. Hey, everybody, we're
gonna have Kim aug with us in just a little bit,
the former District Attorney of Harris County. There was until
very recently a gag order on her because of the
(20:19):
Joscelyn Nungary case. She's going to tell that story and
a whole lot more right after this. But first, Happy
two hundred and fiftieth birthday to the Marines. Once a marine,
always a marine. And you know what's fascinating about that?
It all started in a bar.
Speaker 7 (20:32):
Happy birthday to the United States Marine Corps, the only
branch of the military. They can say with a straight
face they were born in a bar, and not just
any bar, the original Ton Tavern. Sure, the original building
was torn down in seventeen eighty one, but Marine veteran
money dom rebuilt it a block away, which kind of
feels right.
Speaker 3 (20:50):
Marines don't wait for history to come back.
Speaker 7 (20:52):
They rebuild it, shine it up, and hold the ceremony
with enough pride to crack a liberty bill. So cheers
to the Marines, the only people who can turn on
day party into a national moment and still be early
for Formation tomorrow.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
SIMP five they see. Whenever you lose sight of the enemy,
look behind you. Yeah, that's a bad paranoia right there.
Probably brought on by a bong ripper too. Kenny Webster's
pursuit of happiness sort.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
Of like Bobby Kennedy Junior, sort of like Elon Musk,
sort of like Tulsey Gabbard, I could, sort of like
Donald Trump. Former Harrison County District Attorney Kim Ogg was
a Democrat who was a liberal, but she was a
common sense sort of like Mayor John Whitmeyer. She was
one of these people that everybody mistook for a run
of the mill Democrat until they realized, oh, she actually
(21:41):
cares about crime, She actually cares about reasonable people, what
you know, socially liberal who cares it's her job to
prosecute criminals. And so kim Ogg was one of those
don't know what you've got till it's gone candidates. When
we had her, some of us thought, oh, no, you know,
Mary Anne Huffman, we want one of these others. We
want one of these Republicans to be the district attorney.
Looking back on it, I mean now we with Sean Tierre,
(22:03):
we miss kim Ogg not long ago. She's on the
line right now. Thanks so much for your time this afternoon.
Do I call you Attorney Ogg? What is the proper
name for the former DA Just kim Ogg?
Speaker 6 (22:15):
No, it's just Yes, it's just Kim Ogg. And I'm
the former top law enforcement official in Harris County and
that's what I did for eight years as the elected
district attorney.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I have a short story for you, and then I
want to talk about Jocelyn Nungary. A little while back,
I was eating at one of my favorite steakhouses in Uptown.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
It's called King Ranch.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
It's kind of like a bougie It's Tillman Fertita's version
of Texas Roadhouse. I'm sitting out on the patio eating
a T bone steak, and all of a sudden, some
young men I'm trying to, you know, be polite here,
happy to be black, and another young man who happened
to be Hispanic, get into a loud argument out in
front of the restaurant, and the girlfriend of the Hispanic
(22:57):
gentleman gets up and walks off. She knows there's it's
about to be ugly. There's about to be a gang
fight in front of the restaurant. Police arrive. The two
young black men run off. They run to the bus
stop down the street on post Oake Boulevard. The hispanic
guy takes off, he runs off. The comps are there.
They're talking to the police for a while and it's awkward.
It gets a little ugly, and then the smoke clears,
(23:18):
the dust settles, everything goes back to normal. Minutes later,
you arrive with Don Hooper from the Houston Conservative Forum.
You guys at a birthday party in that restaurant, like
right after all, this happens, and Don Hooper comes out.
He talks to me out on the patio and he says,
Kenny here, what are you doing out here? And I
tell him the story. I was like, you know how
bizarre it would be if I local right wing talk
(23:38):
show host Kenny Webster had been here when a shooting
happened with some gang members, and then minutes later Kim
Ogg's birthday party happened.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Nobody would believe that story.
Speaker 2 (23:48):
Everybody would think it was some weird conspiracy theory that
we were all at the same time. Did you even
know that that happened right before your birthday?
Speaker 1 (23:55):
I did.
Speaker 6 (23:56):
I did, But you know, the good witnesses are always
in the bathroom when it goes down, So I'm sorry
that you were out there in the middle of it.
I'm glad that it receded, but you would have had
the perfect witness.
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Oh.
Speaker 2 (24:08):
I had my phone out, I was ready to record,
and then just as soon as we thought it was
going to get ugly, it ended, and then Kim Ogg
and Don Hooper show up for a birthday party. I
was like, it was so surreal. I was like, am
I on pills or something? I can't believe this is
a real thing. All right, I want to talk to
you about Joscelyn Nungarye. They put a gag order on you. You
weren't supposed to for most of our listeners know this story.
(24:30):
At this point, I won't even go into the details.
It's just a terrible thing that happened to this young
woman in Harris County, involving some illegal immigrants and some
disgusting Vinyl thing that took place under a bridge. I'll
stop right there with the explanation. You were one of
the loudest voices trying to call for justice.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
Here.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Can you tell our listeners the story? They don't know
what happened? Why was there a gag order?
Speaker 6 (24:54):
In June of twenty twenty four, twelve year old Joscelyn
Ungeray left her house without her mom knowing it, was
on the phone with her boyfriend and unfortunately intersected with
two Venezuelan nationals. They ended up luring her or kidnapping her.
(25:16):
They took her to a remote spot down by the bio,
near her apartment, but not obviously adjacent to it, and
she they've been accused and charged with raping and murdering her,
which is capital murder, an offense punishable by death. In Texas,
(25:38):
I was the elected district attorney. We filed the charges
we were prosecuting, and the defense lawyers did not like
the fact that some public officials running for office that
wasn't me were utilizing the case as an example of
the consequences criminal consequences of open borders. And it was effective.
(26:05):
It resonated. The message resonated with Americans. Many of us
don't want open borders. Those of us who want public
safety and want safe streets have grave concerns about the
last administration's lack of willingness to do anything about stopping
people from coming into our country, some of whom are
(26:26):
charged with extremely serious crimes like Payna and Rangell in
this case. And so I talked about it, and the
defense filed a motion to put a gag order not
just on me, but on the victim's mother. But they
should have put a gag order. The way the thing
was written was so overbroad that it really included the
(26:50):
President of the United States when he talked about the
case in his State of the Union address and also
when he mentioned it at the Republican Convention. It should
have to Ted Cruz because it was really anyone who
spoke about the case. That could have been you, It
could have been any journalists. So it was an overbroad
order that we did not believe was enforceable. I gave
(27:11):
a press conference announcing we would seek death. That was
in December of twenty twenty four, right before I left office,
and I've continued to give interviews about it. I gave
one as a private citizen, and I talked to some
political groups about it. And the response of the District
Attorney and the defense has been to spend more time
(27:33):
and money trying to prosecute me for allegedly violating a
gag order that we did not believe was enforceable and
isn't enforceable. Then they have spent prosecuting the alleged murderers.
Though it's an ironic story that could only match your
(27:53):
story about the near gang shootout followed by my entrants
to the King Ranch kitchen. Only in Texas could you
get a sort of selected da like Sean Tier to
team up with the defense Lesa Andrews and others to
ask Judge Josh Hill to hold me in contempt for
(28:16):
violating an order that at least our office, the same
lawyer seeking contempt charges had pronounced as unenforceable and objected
to the gag orders unenforceable. I don't know if I'm
making sense, but the bottom line is they've spent more
time trying to prosecute me for alleged contempt than they
(28:36):
have the folks who are charged with murdering and raping Jocelyn.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
And you explained it pretty clearly.
Speaker 2 (28:42):
I mean, you know, George Soros in the left tried
to silence you early on a lot of people associated
with you, that you with those people, and in the end,
ultimately you turned out to be, at least here in
Harris County, one of their biggest critics and one of
their biggest opponents.
Speaker 3 (28:56):
Do you think there was a turning point?
Speaker 6 (28:57):
And that's why the sure, I mean, I think that's
why the Chronicle continues to defame me every chance they get.
I think that Hirst is obviously some arm of the
Soros kind of pack and mechanism or vice versa. But
I received money from George Soros in twenty sixteen without
(29:18):
asking for it, without any quid pro quo. I've never
met the people that run the foundation I think they
believed I was going to beat a Republican incumbent, which
I did when bail reform was introduced by Texas not
the Texas the Civil Rights Corporation of the United States.
(29:41):
They're an extremely liberal group of lawyers off the East Coast.
They wanted to implement cashless bail here. And what they
got was I agreed on misdemeanor nonviolent crimes, but I
wasn't going to agree on or terroristic threat or stalking
(30:02):
or some of the other serious, serious misdemeanors. And so
I started putting up a fight about that. Well, that
made me public enemy number one. And when I definitely
disagreed with cashless bail for felony offenders, I became the
enemy greater than greater than Donald Trump almost, I mean.
(30:27):
And so the party mechanism, controlled by some elected people
here in Harris County really went after me hard. They
weren't able to take me out in twenty I defeated
three opponents, but they were able to take me out
in a primary election in twenty twenty four. That was
shortly before Joscelyn was murdered and before the persecution of
(30:51):
Kim Ogg for how dare I talk about the horrors
of open borders and the criminal results that I witnessed
over and over, crimes committed by illegal aliens. I mean
Joscelyn Nungerrace cases, the tip of the Iceberg. There were
many others. There was Charles Galloway, a deputy from Precinct five,
(31:15):
murdered by a Salvadorian national. There were thousands of such cases.
And I couldn't ever be for open borders. I would
never embrace such a foolhardy platform. And so I was
a Democrat calling out other Democrats, and that that is
(31:36):
not done very often.
Speaker 2 (31:38):
Yeah, and so it's kind of a poorly kept secret
in the legal community that you're being considered by Trump
to the next attorney for the Southern District of Texas.
Speaker 3 (31:49):
I would endorse that idea. I think it's a great idea.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
If you were accepted the position, or if you were
offered the position, would you accept.
Speaker 6 (31:56):
Well, I've submitted my name for nomination, and that's just
an application process. I'm sure there are lots of good candidates,
and I'll respect whatever decision the President makes. So the
answer is certainly I would, if nominated and confirmed, would
love to serve in that role as the chief federal
prosecutor in the Southern District. But I understand there's always
(32:21):
a lot of good people up for appointments, and I
respect the process.
Speaker 3 (32:24):
All right.
Speaker 2 (32:24):
So when you came out and you supported Ted Cruz
and a handful of other Republicans, I wouldn't be surprised
to find out you've got some criticism. Maybe some people
didn't want to talk to you anymore. Did you lose
any friends or people in your personal life when that happened.
Speaker 6 (32:40):
I didn't lose any real friends. I endorsed Ted Cruz
because he filed the Justice for Joscelyn Bill and actually
gave a damn about crime victims, promised to fight for them,
and promised to try and make our community safer.
Speaker 3 (32:55):
You know, I don't.
Speaker 6 (32:57):
I'm not a voter that believes I have to agree
with everyone about everything. I found myself. You know, I
was raised as a conservative Democrat, and so in my household,
because I was younger than my dad, who was a
conservative Democrat state senator here, I was considered the liberal Democrat. Well,
when the New York Times finally called me a conservative Democrat,
(33:19):
thinking they would insult me, I framed it. I think
that what I said on the commercial for Ted Cruz
is exactly how most people feel, and it was this,
Americans are tired of hearing why Democrats and Republicans won't
work together to solve our problems. I'm willing to work
with Ted Cruz because he's willing to help solve our problems.
(33:43):
And so I don't give a damn about the people
who wouldn't speak to me or wrote ugly notes, because
everybody's got an opinion. But democracy is a participatory sport.
It's a full body contact sport, and if we want
a free country, we have to be involved. So that's
that's why I supported him. That's why I support the
President's immigration and deportation platform, because it's best for public safety.
(34:08):
I'm for legal immigration. I'm for a faster, swifter process
that will allow people who want the benefits of America
to become Americans. But I'm only for legal immigration. So
I find that illegal immigration has contributed tremendously to crime
in Harris County, and I can only speak for our jurisdiction,
(34:30):
but in eight years we filed get this number, three thousand,
five hundred plus murders if you do the math, it's
more than one a day. Many of those crimes were
committed by illegal aliens. And when you meet the families,
grieving families, mothers, brothers, sisters, husbands, wives, it changes you.
(34:53):
And it, let me say, it femented my commitment to
help elect people concerned with our safety and if that
meant going to the other party in voting across the aisle.
So what I did it. I'm proud of it, and
I continue on paper to be a Democrat. Many here
(35:15):
don't consider me democrats, but I will tell you I
reflect a lot of regular people's beliefs.
Speaker 3 (35:22):
You are not the only one.
Speaker 2 (35:24):
Over the weekend, Mayor John Whitmeyer was a guest speaker
at a conference hosted by former Chema Mayor Bill King
Rice University Baker Institute for Public Policy event. They talked
about that New York Times article from a few weeks
back that basically said John Whitmeyer is one of these wacky,
kooky municipal Democrat leaders who isn't interested in trying to
(35:47):
get rid of Trump. He's trying to get rid of
speed potholes and fix the speed bumps in his town.
And somehow Weirdly, he was attacked for this over the weekend.
He stated that the city of Houston is cooperating with ICE.
Speaker 3 (36:00):
I mean, I think they should be.
Speaker 2 (36:01):
You have criminal, illegal aliens in the city that are
involved in organized crime, and I don't know why that
is controversial. I was wondering if you had any thoughts
on that.
Speaker 6 (36:11):
I do. It's part of why the Democratic Party lost
their butts in the last election. They are so out
of touch with most Americans who just want our government
to pick up the garbage, keep our borders safe, and
make it okay for us to go to the grocery
store at night without getting robbed. Most Houstonians place crime
(36:32):
at the top of their list of concerns, and that's
because under the last mayor, it really was out of
control between he and county local government run by Democrats.
Here the cashless bail policies, the refusal to allow police
officers to arrest certain people for certain things. We have
(36:53):
a duty to work with other law enforcement agencies, especially
federal agencies, and when we can force multiply by bringing
in federal agents to help enforce public safety laws. I'm
grateful Senator Whitmyer now mayor of Whitmyer took my father's
seat in nineteen eighty three in the Texas Senate and
(37:14):
he's been my state senator ever since. I support what
Mayor Whitmyre does. He won by a wide margin, and
I think that shows that most Houstonians believe in what
we're talking about. They just want limited government to perform
the major duties that government is responsible for, and the
(37:35):
number one duty is to keep us safe. So I
applaud Mayor Whitmyer. I have canceled my subscription to the
Houston Chronicle, and the subscription to the New York Times
will likely follow, because they just can't seem to give
us ordinary Democrats who believe what our constituents believe and
(37:58):
try to affect that fair shake. There's always an opinion
somehow that.
Speaker 3 (38:04):
I don't know.
Speaker 6 (38:04):
I remember a time when murder was not controversial. We
were all against it. Now it seems to be conditional.
If you're a Democrat and certain people commit murder, well,
really they're the victim, and the actual crime victim is
almost villainized. So with the world turned on it's ear,
I see more people coming back to common sense, voting
(38:29):
whichever party best reflects it, and right now the Republican
Party best reflects it in Harris County.
Speaker 2 (38:35):
You know what, I think that was perfectly stated. So
just one more question for you. To those you are
just turning on your radio. I'm speaking to former Harris
County District Attorney km Ogg.
Speaker 3 (38:42):
What is next for you?
Speaker 6 (38:45):
Well, you know, I'm here practicing law at a fun
boutique litigation firm, Gregor Wynn Arnie. I'm getting that plug
in for the firm, and call me if you need me.
In the meantime, we'll wait and see what President Trump
does with these ointments to the US Attorney's office and
in all the districts in Texas that are left open,
(39:06):
the federal benches that are left open, and we'll see
if the public doesn't demand more public safety through the
next election, especially when it comes to judges. I can
tell you I'll be rooting for the good guys, and
the way I see it is many of those folks
happen to be on the Red team, and that's who
(39:27):
I'm going to vote for.
Speaker 3 (39:28):
Amen to that.
Speaker 2 (39:29):
Hey, I appreciate you, Thanks so much for your time
this afternoon. Follow Kim Hogg on social media. I presume
you're on Action and Instagram.
Speaker 3 (39:36):
Are you still a Yeah, we're on everything. Yeah, absolutely,
we're on everything. I'll put this, I'll put this.
Speaker 6 (39:41):
If I can get a copy of this interview, we'll
post it or will like yours and reposts. So thank
you so much for the opportunity to talk to my constituents.
I'm grateful to the people who elected me, and they
were by the way Democrats and Republicans elected me their
strict attorney. And I enjoyed serving you, and I hope
(40:03):
serve you again in the future in some capacity.
Speaker 2 (40:05):
Well, I sure hope you do. Hey to the rest
of you, I hope you'll have an awesome afternoon. We'll
be back bright and early tomorrow morning for more of
what you bought a radio for. God bless all of you,
and God bless Texas.
Speaker 4 (40:20):
You are listening to the Pursuit of Happiness Radio.
Speaker 7 (40:26):
Tell the government to kiss your ass when you listen
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