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about this, So you don't wantto miss this interview and stuff. As
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they do for the fallen, wellhow could you not support them? All?
Right, Well, we're going toget into this show. We're going
to do a hell of an interview, but I want to get my co
host on. Well, Randy Suttongoing to be with us today because he
just got in an auto accident.But you know what, taking his place
as Chief Patrick Jordan of the LACounty Sheriffs. Hello, Chief, how
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are you? Hey? How youdoing, Chris? And thank you for
inviting me on the show. Ohyeah, it's always a pleasure to have
you on the show. Chief,he says. You know, who are
we going to get to replace Randy? And there's only one person, Chief
Jordan, also from California, retiredLa County Deputy Sheriff Tanyoh and hello,
Tanya. Hey, Chris, it'sgood to have you back on again.
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Huh, thank you. It's goodto be Oh, it's great to have
you there. And of course Ilove him the man who tells it the
way it is, Buck Savage,Hello, Buckster, how are you?
Chris? I'm doing well? Thankyou? Happy? Happy to be back.
Oh I'm not real to have you. Happy to be back on the
show, but not so happy tobe back in New York that I can't
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blame you. Did you get anysnow down Syracuse? We got snow?
Did you get any snow? Yeah? Nothing that really stuck on the ground,
but yeah, snowed all day,Yeah it was. It was snowed
all night last night. We heardme Buffalo, Welcome to Buffalo, and
the the craziness all right, aswe always go. We'd always dedicate each
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show to a fallen police officer.This show is no different. We're gonna
dedicate this show to police Officer KevinCram of the Allegona Police Department of Iowa.
Hey, would you play that videofor us? Chanel Okay, Tania.
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End of watch came for Officer Cram. On Wednesday, September thirteenth,
twenty twenty three, police Officer KevinCram was shot and killed while attempting to
arrest command with an active arrest warrantfor harassment. At seven fifty three pm,
Officer Cram located the subject at theeleven hundred blocks of South Minnesota Street
in Algona. When Officer Kram notifiedthe man that he was being placed under
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arrest, the subject shot him andfled. Officer Kram was transported to the
Regional Health Center, where he waspronounced dead. The subject was arrested in
Minnesota in charge with first degree murders. Officer Cram served with the Algona Police
Department for eight years and previously servedwith the Nora Springs Police Department for two
years. He is survived by hiswife, two sons, a step son,
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father, mother, and two brothers. He honored the same blue line
and will never be forgotten. That'sright, he will never be forgotten.
So Chanel put up that picture ofKyle Ricky. So this is the monster
who shot and killed Officer Kram.So in a criminal complaint which they bring
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to the core of the actual thingthat took place, broad against Ricky is
alleged that Ricky yelled at Kram aftershooting him. As the police officer was
dying, he says, too late, motherfucker. I did it because I'm
tireder of than your shit. Thisis a monster. Who would ever say
that after shooting a police officer forwhat for a violation or rest warrant,
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that you would be at it outof the police station in five minutes,
ten minutes. Give me a break. This is a monster, a pure
evil, pure evil. So OfficerCram gave his life for us, Okay,
he was killed by this monster.These men and women that we dedicate
each and every show to, they'verisked their lives every day, put themselves
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in harm's way. And who's outthere and rage and mad we see everybody
else, and rage and mad aboutother people who are being shot and brutal
and I don't blame them for that, but where are they for the police
officers? Where are they when apolice officer dies in the line of duty?
Where's the national outrage? Police folks? Don't let these officers die in
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vain. They've given their lives forus. They stuff all right, Well,
usually we would have the news,but we're not going to have the
news. But I just want toget a quick comment from both police officers
that are on the show with ustoday. Buck, can you believe this
over a simple arrest warrant? Thisguy says some evil like that. Yeah,
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you know, I mean, unfortunately, nothing surprises me anymore. The
deterioration that we're seeing across the countrywith respect towards law enforcement officers is really
chilling. But as you said,this really serves as an example of there
is no easy day when a policeofficer puts on a badge and the uniform
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and heads out to work. Sosomething, as you said, as simple
as a harassment warrant and you know, obviously just just just terrible. And
yeah, I man, I don'tknow, I agree with you that.
You know, the media is totallyno outrage to what's going on in There's
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no outrage. This guy gave hislife for us, and there's no outrage,
Tanya. I know this hits home. Your comments. Well, you
know, first of all, myheart goes out not only to his family,
you know, his wife's children andparents, but also to his fellow
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brothers and sisters in uniform. Thisis something that is just happening way too
much nowadays. Our officers are beingattacked and I blame the narrative that the
media puts out every day. Yeah, you know what this individual that show
him, You know, evil isevil, is evil is evil. These
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are people that should never breathe thesame air we breathe. And these are
the people that need to be putbehind bars for the rest of their lives.
Not only that, but there aremany that deserve the death penalty,
and in this particular case, hemost certainly did. And we need to
start standing up for our long people. That silent majority needs to come out
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and they need to stand up forthose that go out there and do the
job every day and without hesitation,every single day. They're going out leaving
their families behind to protect us.You know, folks, I just want
to say this that behind Tanya,for those who have video behind Tanya is
Tanya's husband who was killed in theline of duty. He was in La
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County sheriff and he was brutally murderedby another monster. He gave his life
for us. And I want totell you, Tanya, not only are
you a hero, but your husband'sa hero. And I wanted to thank
you personally for everything you have doneto help us and everything he's done for
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us. I appreciate that. Thankyou, Chief, Thank you, you
got it. Chief. Yeah.I think the thing is so he's trying
to wrest him for a warrant.What that means is that this guy's gone
through some kind of judicial process usand a warrant has been issued. You
know, whether you lean right oryou lean left, there are laws in
the books, and ultimately some manor some woman who puts on a uniform,
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straps on a gun, and pendson a batch has to go out
and enforce that law. And likeI said, whether you're right or left,
you have to support the people whofinally have to go do the dirty
work and bring people to jail.Yeah. I appreciate that. All right,
let's get it to our guests.Our guest tonight is Ryan Walters an
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American educator, politician, and Ibelieve, a true American hero. But
that's just the start of Ryan Walters. He has been fighting for the souls
of our children in Oklahoma and he'sbeen winning. Ryan has been a vocal
critic of critical race theory and theteachers' union. Ryan has been looked up,
looked upon as the state's top culturalwarrior this stuff. The superintendent of
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Tulsa Public Schools resigned because Ryan threatenedto take over the Desert Schools Holadays,
people are trying to destroy the familynuclears and trying to a doctrinate our children
into hating this country, God,and who knows what else. And Ryan
is fighting to bring it back andhe's doing a hell of a job doing
it. So we need more peoplelike Ryan Walters. Ryan, welcome to
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the show. Well, let metell you, I sure appreciate you having
me, and you know, Iso appreciate the work that you all are
doing on the show. And youknow, hearing that heartbreaking story to start
the show, it reminds me ofwe've launched in our state discipline overhaul of
our schools. Because I'm going totell you this belief that law enforcement somehow
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is the enemy of communities. Ithas started. I agree the left has
been pushing this out in society,but they have also pushed it in our
schools. They have gotten into youngpeople to believe they're not responsible for their
actions. It's everybody else's fault,right, and it's the police that are
the bad guys. We've dealt withthat here. We have several cities trying
to defund the police here and conservativesmobilized together to go, We're gonna throw
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these mayors out. This is themost ridiculous thing we've ever heard, and
we're trying to bring into our schoolsdiscipline reform to go. Listen, we
are going to make sure kids understandyou are responsible for your actions. We
will not promote lawlessness in our schools, which then creates teenagers and adults that
believe that when things don't go theirway, it's okay to break the law,
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and it's the police officer's fault forholding them accountable for lawless behavior.
We're going to make sure that weget our schools back on track with discipline
as well, to make sure kidsunderstand that you have to be the one
responsible for your actions. This wokein doctrination has taken over every aspect of
our schools. We've got to getthese schools back on track. Here in
Oklahoma. We're playing offense. We'vegot a game plan and we are going
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to continue to execute it and continueto fight the woke out of our schools.
Well, I will tell you this, you know, Ryan, first
of all, thank you for allyou're trying to do, because I have
grandchildren and my daughter comes to mebecause she hears the show and she knew
that you were coming out, andshe's probably listening now and she goes dead.
I'm really scared of sending my childrento school because I hear things about
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critical race theory and how you know, we're all people of bad people if
you're white, and you know,what do I do with my children?
So one of the things that shehad asked me, she said, Dad,
what is critical race theory? Itwas never taught when I was going
through school. So Ryan, canyou please explain what this critical race theory
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is so the listeners can understand whatthe hell? This is? Great?
Great question. So it starts withthe premise that they believe that white people
are racist against black people, andthis goes back hundreds of years and it
has become embedded in the white race. So the white race is inherently racist.
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So you have to see everything throughthat lens to understand society. So
that's the premise they start there.So everything is racist. So and again
the absurdities. As you dig downin critical race theory, it gets so
crazy because you know, if awide individual doesn't treat a black individual correct
appropriately, it's racism. But ifthey treat them correctly, it's also racism
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because they're just doing it to hidetheir racism. See, so it's one
of these games that they imprint itinto young people's heads, and it's absurd,
but they view everything that way,and they particularly view America that way.
They view everything that happened through aprism of racism. So guess what.
The founders didn't want individual liberties becausethey believe those were liberties given to
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everyone by God. They wanted itbecause they wanted to enslave people. They
wanted the power to enslave black peopleforever. You know, why did we
why were we able to win thesewars? It's because of slavery and this
racism that we use. They vieweverything through that prism. And so what
it does is it creates class warfare. It makes students look at each other
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suspiciously and believe that their own classmatesare somehow racist against them already when you
know, and you have young kids, it's amazing, you know, the
innocence of young children of you knowwhat, if you teach them the right
thing, if you teach them principles, if you teach them morals and virtue,
they grow up in those things.Right, that's biblical. It's also
just common sense. But what we'veinstead done now is the opposite with critical
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race theory and say, hey,you've got to view the world, who
have a lens that everyone's racist againsteach other, And what a terrible way
to live, by the way,if you viewed the world that way.
But secondly, look at what itcreates. It creates conflict. It creates
frankly low expectations because everyone's a victim. Right, So we can't we can't
believe that minority students will achieve wellin school because they're oppressed at every every
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every term. And so what itdoes is it creates low expectations, It
creates conflict, and it creates incredibleconfusion. Amongst young people. Yeah,
to me, this is absolutely absurdbecause all you're doing is dividing, dividing
people, making them actually hate eachother. You're indoctrinating them to go against
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I will tell you, as apolice officer, every one of these people
on this show have probably been toa crime scene where a black child bleeds
red, a white child bleeds red. When you're holding that child because they
got a stab room or shot,you know, in their their body and
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the blood is coming out of themand their life is being lost right there
in front of you. You're notlooking at black, white, hispanic.
You're looking at a child losing theirlife at that moment. And we need
to start thinking that way where peopleare just people. Fuck your common oh
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boy, Okay, Yeah, Imean obviously I couldn't agree more so.
My family background is law enforcement andeducation, so I have family members that
are teachers as well in the schools. And the somewhat ironic thing that I
think is beginning to happen in theschools obviously, is there there's a lot
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of good teachers in there in theschool systems that are now being and I
kind of joke with with with myfamily and that they're finally getting I shouldn't
say finally, but they're getting thetreatment that law enforcement has been getting for
a long time. And to Ryan'spoint is that if a student isn't performing
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well in school, well then that'sthe teacher's fault. And if the kid
is misbehaving in the in the classroom, well then that's the teacher's fault because
the teacher should be doing something tomake them or help them behave better.
So what we've done with this criticalrace theory is basically throw yet another blockade
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of excuses out there instead of addressingthe true root problems that are going on
in our society. Tany you've beenthrough enough crime scenes in your career,
Black, white, hispanic didn't matter. A child dying is a child dying.
You cannot divide these people. What'syour comments? Well, you know
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to what Ryan was saying that,you know, children when they're born,
they have no opinion, right,very basic, and children learn what they
are taught in the home. Hopefullyparents are teaching them, you know,
good moral values, accountability and allthose things that we were taught as children.
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And when you go to a schooland the school feels that they have
to tell the children what is rightand what is wrong. Children are very
sudjustable, and all you're creating isthat division that we talked about now in
terms of us responding to different calls. Yes we care. Let's about the
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skin, the skin or the skincolor. At the end of the day,
you know, they are a humanbeing and they need our help.
And you know, with law enforcementwe have people of all races and I
look at everyone in the same color, you know, sand and green or
blue, whatever the color of youruniform is. There is no division between
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us. The children are not beingtaught that time. That's the problem with
this current theory. Absolutely, theschool feels that they have to be they
have to parent the children. Thechildren need to be parented buy their parents
at home how and the school istaking that away from the parents so much
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so that if a child wants whoidentify as something different or they have are
struggling with an identity issue, theydon't want to tell the parents. That
is not the school's job. Theschool's job is to teach basic education,
math, English, history, allthose things and let the children. Let
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the students decide for themselves. Theschools are trying to brainwash if you will,
the students and the thinking a certainway, which is dangerous. Chief
before we get on to the nextquestion. Your comment, well, I'll
build a little bit on what Tanyasays is, you know, the last
ten years so the family has beenunder assault anyway, so I think they're
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okay with breaking up the family.But I really wanted to get to something
that Ryan touched on. And youknow, we have these values that came
out of the Enlightenment, and rightnow wocism seems to be attacking the very
values that came out of the Enlightenment, which is the premiscy of the individual
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human rights given to you by God, which led to the Bill of Rights,
which actually led to the freedom ofeverybody in this country. But now
they perverted that thinking and rejected thosetheorists, and they want to oppress others
based upon the color of their skin. That's it seems like we've gone full
circle. And so I was hopingto get Ryan's comment on that. Well,
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let's ask him Ryan your comments onyou Well, that that was a
great comment, and so what happenshere is exactly what you just described.
We're actually going backwards. What we'veseen is what's made America great. Right,
Like, you take a step backand you go what didn't make America
great? Well, our founders saidit was a belief an individual liberty,
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the belief that God intended for individualsto be essentially free. Right. You
start there, and then you addin morality. You know, our founders
believe, look, hey, we'rea Judeo Christian people. Doesn't mean everyone's
got to be that way, butmost people were that way. They had
a moral code. So if youhave a moral code, you don't need
this tyrannical government to police people.What you have is you have a government
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that is there to enforce certain laws. But for the most part, you
want people to be right because youwant to maximize their individual liberty with limited
government. Right. And our foundersdid a deep dive into history to study
ancient Greece, ancient Rome. Youknow, I can go down this road
and this is a group. Yeah, I can tell by you all and
your show, your listeners are folksthat know this history very well. You
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know, the founders they studied folkslike Blutart, They studied Roman history,
They studied the Greek history to tryto figure out, how do we walk
this line to maximize liberty but stillhave a successful limited form of government.
Well, if you talk through thiswith kids, you can talk through this
with young people. You go throughthe Declaration of Independence, the Federalist papers,
you go even back, you goin before that, talk about the
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Enlightenment. Right, you get thisunderstanding of oh, this was really really
thought out with an understanding of historyand an understanding of human nature to create
this incredible country. Well, ifyou go by the critical race theory,
lens history is not important. Why, Well, all those people were racist
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and what drove them was racism.So if you truly believe that Thomas Jefferson
was just a racist to his core, and that nothing that came out of
his mouth was important, why studyhim? Why look back into a deep
dive into the Constitution. The Federalistpapers, they reject history, they reject
truth, They reject the wisdom thatcomes from our history, which is why
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you see them fight so hard topush this in doctrination in school. Here
in Oklahoma, we've launched initiatives toget true history back in schools. We
made Praeger You available to all studentsacross the state. Parents, teachers,
schools can all use it. Andwhat they do is they do these narratives
about the Founders. They do oneon Jefferson, on Washington, and it's
wonderful. They go all the waydown through grade school and it's these great
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examples of you know, what's importantabout George Washington, what made him a
successful leader? And he goes allthe way up into the high school curriculum.
Oh my goodness. The left losttheir mind over here. They hated
it. They hated that we wereshining such a spotlight on our history and
actually wanting kids to have that deepunderstanding of the Founders, because again,
if you viewed things through the viewthat everybody, every white person in our
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history, was just this evil racist, especially our Founders, you don't see
the wisdom and studying it and youwant to talk about I mean that what's
the old adage, those who don'tknow history are doomed to repeat the mistakes
of the past. That's exactly whatwe're going to do to young people.
We're not going to continue the greatexperiment that is America by continuing these core
principles. We're actually going to gobackwards and find ourselves in a tyrannical government,
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find ourselves with a society that's unmooredfrom reality. That is a terrible
place to live. And that's whatmy fear is. If we don't get
education back on track, that's thedecisions the future generation is going to be
making. You know, Ryan,you know what you remind me of.
I'm thinking this that some cultures,some countries. I don't know if you've
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ever seen the movie The Killing Field. Oh yes, what you're saying actually
reminds me where the indoctrination of childrenwas to turn them against the parents and
to actually show the parents were eviland they had to be destroyed. And
that's exactly what indoctrination can lead to. And if we don't stop it now,
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how far are they going to gowith this? And I want to
ask you a question about, asfar as I'm concerned, Education's public enemy
number one, Raindy Winegarden and thecrap that she's spewing out there, how
do you deal with these unions andher You know that she's over in Ukraine
and I'm surprised she's not in Chinaand every place else under the sun.
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If anybody needed to be ousted outof her job, that's the one number
one publicadomy number one of education.What's your comments on this? Ryan?
Yeah, I think we have todestroy the teachers unions. I mean you
know that. I get a lotof flak for that from the left,
and they just lose their mind.I go, guys, who has done
more damage to our kids than theteachers' unions? Remember they brought in critical
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race theory, they brag about it. They brought in this transgender education where
they want to talk to third andfourth graders about, Hey, there's twenty
seven genders and let's talk to youabout sexuality here because we want to be
inclusive. So that means second graders, away from your parents, let's talk
to you guys about sex. Thinkabout how grossly inappropriate that is. These
are the folks that have lowered standards. These are the folks that called teachers
who attend school board meetings terrorists andgot the federal government to go in and
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investigate parents that wanted to attend schoolboard meetings to find out what was going
on in their schools. They havedone tremendous damage to our kids. And
I'm going to tell you this whatwe're doing in our state. I'm doing
everything I can to throw them outof schools. Okay, the Teachers' union
doesn't advocate for kids, and frankly, they don't even advocate for teachers.
They are taking money from teachers' paychecks. All they're interested in is power and
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money, and they are utilizing thatpower and that money to indoctrinate our kids
to create social justice warriors to goreelect Joe Biden and I mean and by
the way, their political contributions areclear. They give over ninety six percent
of their money to Democrats. Inmy race, I ran for this office.
They spent twelve million dollars against mein this race because I said,
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I want to ensure parents are firstin their kids' lives. I want to
create an environment where parents can choosewhere their kids go to school. I
want to protect their rights. Iwant to bring in merit pay for teachers
so great teachers can make more money. They hated that too. They have
fought me every step of the way, invested all this money against me.
But again, I just go rightout to parents and go, guys,
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let me talk about their track recordthat they don't want you to know about.
They are doing tremendous damage to ourkids, you know, Ryan years
Agoo they actually took such sex educationout of the high school Our producer actually
sent this comment to me. Sothey had taken sex education out of the
high schools years ago, but nowthey want to put it in elementary schools.
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I can understand the science that youwant to teach kids at an older
age appropriately, but pornography and elementaryschools books that talk about ungodly sex acts,
you know, that were read tome by people who went to investigate
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this, parents who said, Chris, you got to see what's in these
books that kids are signing out.This is stuff that you would find in
you know, magazines that have whitecovers on them. This is crazy,
Ryan, And I'll tell you guys. So when I came in office,
I mean I had parents, youknow, I'm out campaigning, and they're
showing me these books that they're findingtheir schools. And so one of the
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first things I passed is a rulethat says you can't have pornographic material in
your schools period. And we beginto see the teachers Union and frankly even
some Rhinos fighting back on us onthis, going, hey, you got
to be inclusive of you know,you got to talk to kids about transsexualism,
and you got to show them thesepictures and these and I thought,
this is the most outrageous thing I'veever heard. So I go to a
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school board meeting, my state boardof Education, and I show the images
of some of the most egregious books, books like Flamer Gender Queer that I'm
I'm not talking about like a youknow, the old sex said classes where
it's like here's the anatomy, youknow. No, I mean it is
graphic sexual positions, not censored atall, and just I mean in great
schools, in elementary school. SoI show them the PowerPoint of these these
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pictures, and I said, themedia, by the way, the fake
news media, they were unbelievable inthis. At first they reported on these
these books because I mean, itwas so outrageous. Then they started attacking
me, going, oh, well, what are you talking about. I
don't we don't believe there is pornographicmaterial in schools. And I was like,
guys, I tweeted back at him, I go, here's all your
reporting on these books. So Iknow that you've got selective amnesia here to
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pretend like you didn't report about it, you know, just a few months
ago. But I bring them intoa board meeting. Then they start with
the narrative that you know, it'sreally not as bad as Ryan is saying
they are. So I said,okay, I put them all on a
PowerPoint on the board meeting. Igo, hey, media, you've been
out reporting. I'm exaggerating how badit is. Show these images on the
news tonight. Let let your viewersdecide. Let them decide if that's appropriate
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for kids or not. I hadone of the reporters tweet at me and
say, you know, Ryan,you challenge us to show this on the
news tonight. I took it tomy producer and they said, you know,
we can't show that on TV.There could be kids watching. And
I go, you want to talkabout missing the point? I said,
that's why when we found these booksin schools, we were dedicated to ensuring
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that no child's going to be sentto a school or they see images like
that. Absolutely fuck As a parent, you' I mean pornography and elementary schools.
Yeah, you know. Unfortunately,and thankfully I didn't have to deal
with that when my kids were inschool, but there's certainly a reality now
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across and have grandchildren soon though.That's that's true. And you know,
ironically, I was talking with ayoung woman that I know who was a
teacher and basically she left the professiona year ago and is homeschooling her own
children because she is just fed upwith the craziness that that is what they're
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calling the education system currently. Tanya, your mother, what do you think
if your child brought home a bookthat had sexual positions, oral sex everything.
I mean, you got to beenraged about that. Oh, I
would margin myself right to the schooland go and yell at the principle it
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is not the responsibility to talk aboutanything involving you know, sex or anything
like that is the parent's job.And that Ryan, you know what,
My hats off to you that youare championing this. Anything we can do,
please let us know, because thishas to stop again. You know,
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Chris was talking about sex education beingtaught back in the day when we
were in high school, and eventhen, every student had to get a
permission slip signed by the parent andthe parents were told exactly what was going
to be shown in that video andwe have nothing. So it allowed the
parents to be involved. And nowwhen you take the parents out of this
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the schools becomes a parent and there'ssome things that we disagree as parents that
we don't want the schools to teach. You know, whatever happened to PTA
Parent Teachers Association? Do we evenstill have those? Are they getting involved?
That's a good question, Ryan.How strong are the ptas now?
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So that is a fantastic question.So what we've seen is a lot of
the larger ptas have actually been coopted by the teachers' unions and the schools
where they begin to just put on, you know, folks that are friendly
to the administrators, friends with thesuperintendents and principles and so what we've actually
seen, and I've been very encouragedby this is now in Oklahoma around the
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country, I've seen a lot ofparent groups that are newly formed, that
are newly coming together to say,hey, look, we're gonna hold everyone
accountable. And that's what I tellevery parent. You know, no one
knows better for their kids than youdo. Anybody that would even suggest otherwise
that's an absurd position. So ifyou're upset, you're frustrated with what's going
on with your kid, and Iremember I'm a former public school history teacher.
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Look I always told parents, Hey, if you've got a question about
anything I'm doing, you've got asuggestion about anything I'm doing. If there's
anything that I need to know aboutyour child or I need to be doing
differently to help your child, youlet me know, because again, hey,
I'm gonna do my best to helpyour child learn. I'm gonna hold
a high bar for your kid,never going to know your kid as well
as you do. I mean,so you tell me what I can do
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better to help your child. Everygood teachers that way, right, So
why in the world do you havesome school officials that say, you know,
just just hey, we don't needyou here, We don't want to
hear your feedback. There's a majorproblem with that. So groups like Moms
for Liberty have come up where theyreally organize very quickly to go put pressure
on administrators that don't listen to parents. I'll give you examples. You know,
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during COVID, we saw unbelievable actionsfrom administrators against parents, you know,
holding kids out of school for insome places over two years, not
allowing them in school. We sawthese unbelievable you know, mandates placed on
individuals as young as pre k andkindergarten kids. And so you talk to
parents and you go, were youever talked to about these decisions? Were
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you ever giving a voice? Well, no, they weren't. And I
think it's very important that we continueto give parents as much power as possible
in our schools. We protect theirrights and we ensure that Listen, when
a decision is made about your child, it is you who drives that decision.
Okay, an educator and administrator,they can give you some inputs,
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some feedback, but ultimately you,the parents, should be the one making
the decision. And again, anyeducation bureaucrat that would come to you and
dare say they know better for yourkids than you do, they're outrageous.
They need to find another job becausea parent knows best for their kids.
But this is what the left.You guys mentioned this earlier. The Left
fundamentally wants to turn kids against theirfamilies. They want the breakdown of the
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family. It's not a coincidence thatall of their policies have led to the
breakdown of the family unit. AndI'm gonna tell you why, Because if
kids are unmoored from their family,if kids are not in these tight family
units where hey I bring everything tomom and dad. I get there,
I seek out their guidance, Ilisten for their feedback in the way I
lead my life. They know theycan indoctrinate them, they know that they
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can turn them into social justice warriors. They are lifelong Democrat voters. That
that's where they're going to be.They're only going to listen to the propaganda
be and pushed to them, ratherthan sitting at the kitchen table with mom,
dad, grandma, and grandpa andtalking about the values that they want
to hold as a family, talkingabout what's important in their life as they
go older. That's what we shouldbe sitting. Policies to try to protect
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and bring us back to the chief. I know you're chomping at the bits,
so go ahead. Well, Ireally have kind of two things,
and they're completely different, and certainlyRyan can weigh in. I mean,
the policies of not talking to parentsif they believe a child is suffering from
gender dysphoria. In California, it'sno law. It has to be that
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way, and we have school districtspushing back on that. Yet, when
you do what you're supposed to do, your due diligence and you look at
the studies. The policy is reallybased upon bad science, you know,
and there emerging science is indicating itmight be the wrong way to go.
That's the first part of that question, you know. The second one is
is the abandonment of the meritocracy.I was hoping maybe you could comment on
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that as well. So, yeah, two great questions. You know.
The first one, so in Oklahoma, we've been doing the opposite. We
have made it a requirement that anyconversation about sexual identity you have to talk
to the parent and get the parentspermission before ever engaging a child with them.
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So if a child came to aschool counselor or a teacher and said,
you know, I'm thinking about changingmy gender, the responses you immediately
call the parent, informed them,ask them how you would want them to
proceed. So that is now wehave required that from school districts. But
I want to show you even howthis has gone a step further. We
literally have had two federal judges tryto require our schools to go back and
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change the records of transgender students andpretend like they were never the other gender.
So if a male student said theywere female, they came in and
tried to tell our schools, ifyou don't go back now and change every
record going back to pre K,that they've now decided there email that now
all the records in the school haveto reflect that, the teachers have to
call them by the new pronouns.If they don't, we will adjudicate this,
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we will sue you. Well,we stepped in and said we're not
going to do that. Okay,we're not going to do this transgender game
in our schools. We're not goingto do this back and forth back.
No, no, no, we'renot doing that. No school is going
to go back and change these records. No school is going to force school
employees to change gender pronouns. Youjust look at these absurd conversations the left
is forcing on our schools. We'vegot to stand in truth. We have
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to stand in reality in our schoolsand not allow the left to bully their
way into that. And your secondquestion was about meritocracy, and look,
the Union has fought me hard onthis and we're winning. I've said,
listen, we should inject the freemarket into our schools. If you're a
great teacher, I want you tomake a lot more money as a matter
of fact, in Oklahoma, youcan make up to six figures in the
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classroom if you show that you're anexceptional teacher. At the same time,
we also gave signing bonuses. Weattracted over nine hundred teachers to apply for
our signing bonus program. We didit based on merit. Well, you
could get to fifty thousand dollars tomove the state of Oklahoma to be a
teacher, if you could show usthat you were in the top five percent
of your profession, If you couldshow us that you were going to go
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to a school that was struggling,If you could show us you're going to
go to a high poverty school,if you could show us that you had
a credential that we've been trying toget in our state. Again, we
want to pay for performance. Wewant to make sure that we are incentivizing
excellence in our schools because so muchof what's happened our schools. It's socialists
in nature to say you're going toget the same amount of money no matter
how well of a job you do. What you've got to start doing is
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injecting free market principles in our schoolsand it will incentivize better performance. It
will reward the best teachers, andat the end of the day, what
you're going to see is you're goingto see us get more out of our
kids in a system like that.Yeah, okay, here's the question I
got for you though, Ryan,Now pull up that last picture for me,
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would you please? No next one? Okay? So, apparently,
allegedly, this is a principle ofJohn Elementary School. It's been reported that
she is a drag queen, goesby the name is Chantel Mandalay or something,
and she's the principal of an elementaryschool dressed like this at the school.
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Is this correct? Ryan? Sohere's here's the deal. So we
have a this is a principal.I can't pitch anymore. You know,
you got to take it down.This is a principal one of our elementary
schools. What they've been doing isthey have been dressing in drag and promoting
the fact why they're in drag atpublic shows that they're also a principal.
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They've also been doing drag Storytime Hourto young children outside of school as well,
So so interacting with young children dressedin drag, promoting the fact that
I'm a principal by day, thenI drag after hours, and we continue
to have all these allegations about circlingaround this individual and what they're doing in
the school and outside of the school. And so I said, listen,
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this isn't appropriate. You can't havea principle that is out talking about being
a drag queen and by the way, openly saying like, look, I
don't hide it. I don't hideit, you know, from anyone.
And so this is and then bythe way, she went, he went
and hired another drag queen to bea teacher's assistant in the same school.
And I had parents from the districtreaching out. I had parents across the
state going, what in the worldis going on here? I'm seeing my
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kids. It's one of the worstperforming schools, by the way, in
that shocker, by the way,I think there's a connection going on here,
right. You see folks that areso obsessed with pushing this woke ideology
on kids that they're not getting thebasics down. And so I demanded this
individual be fired. Look, theygot to go work somewhere else. You
can't be working in a school bebragging about dressing in drag being doing drag
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time story hour with kids and thentrying to promote you know, academic success
and virtue with our young people.It's just not gonna It's not appropriate.
I've heard from parents all all overthe state, frankly all over the country
that have reached out on this one, and we're going to correct this,
but I do want it to bea word of caution for your viewers.
Hey, we're the most conservative statein the country. I mean, we
are very conservative, and look atthe influence the teachers' union and the radical
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left still have in a state likeours. And we've got a big school
district that thought that was an appropriatehiring decision. Yeah, when I saw
that story, I could imagine myselfgoing into the principal's office. I'm going
to ask Taya, Tanya, ifyou walked into the principal's office to meet
the principal and Shan tell there metyou, what's your comment. Well,
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you know, quite honestly, thatinfuriates me because it comes down to this,
whatever he's doing, and quite honestly, that's this personal you know he
likes doing that. That's fine.You're out of school. You need to
be professional and Unfortunately, what happenswhen you show up to a school like
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that, you are distracting the studentsfrom what they're supposed to be at school
for. And with children who arealready struggling with a lot of things,
when you show up like that andyou have these sessions with them, now
you may have children that are questioningcertain things when they don't have to because
they really don't know how they shouldfeel. And a lot of children want
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to feel accepted, a lot ofchildren want to feel included. And if
this individual is getting attention because ofthe way he dresses, then are we
going to have We're sending the wrongmessage to kids. Frankly, it's very
disturbing to me. It absolutely is. Buck you walk into principal's office.
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Yeah, it probably wouldn't go well, but I mean it shows the level
you know, as you were talkingabout that and showing the clip on that
of indoctrination that we've been talking aboutthat unfortunately large number of individuals, uh,
not only in our in our schoolsystems, but it wasn't long ago.
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Here in New York. The NewYork State Attorney General, who's like
the highest law enforcement if you will, in in the State Investigative Powers in
there hosted a drag Queen Story Hour. The New York State Attorney General did
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that, right, So I thinkto to Tanya's point, what does it
show as far as normalizing it orthe attempt on normalizing it? And and
and yes, by the way,the Attorney general is is very far left
leaning in it. But there anybodythat doesn't think that there's a definitive plan
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to indoctrinate our youth, uh issadly mistaken. Well, that's going to
bring my next question after the chiefscomment. Chief you walk right, Yeah,
Ryan, I just look at youknow, what I always learned about
society is that you we want ourinstitution just to change slowly. We don't
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want them to change fast because itgives time for society and every to adjust
to what might be, you know, the new trend. You know,
because throwing out the past isn't alwaysa good idea, as you kind of
talked about history. But it seemsto me that there is this efforts to
really push like our military, youknow, you're allowed to be transgender in
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military now and law enforcement the sameway. And we're not we're going very
fast. We're pushing these very fast, and I just think it's destructive to
society and the family. I justwanted to get your thoughts on that.
You know, is GK. Chestertonthat said, you know, when you
come upon a fence, before youtear it down, you might want to
try to understand why the fence wascreated there, right, you know,
and you see this with society,and again, I want to be clear
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on this. I believe this isintentional. Now, you know, to
your point, you see these changesin society and you're going, why is
so much of what we're hearing fromthe federal government, from Joe Biden from
the Democrat Party, why does italways end in undermining the traditional family?
Well, you come to a pointwhere you go, that's the plan,
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that's the goal, because what weshould be doing instead is trying to encourage
families to be together. Try toencourage you know, we want there to
be more families in this country.We want our kids to grow up.
You know, I've got four littleones. I've got a nine year old,
a six year old, a fouryear old, and a two year
old. You know, and wetry to prioritize family time. We talk
a lot, we talk a lotabout our faith. We're Christian. We
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talk a lot about God, wetalk a lot about Bible figures, we
talk about history, we talk aboutour day, we talk about school.
We really try to have that closebond. And you know, as I
talk to families across the state,you know, and across the country,
they want to do the same thing. But what you continue to see your
policies that try to drive the familypart try to inject government every step of
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the way, where the reliance becomeson government officials bureaucrats instead of going home
first, relying on mom and dad. And again, from my point,
I try to do all I canto encourage parntal involvement. Look, you
know there are some families that aren'tinvolved in their kids' education. Well,
I'm trying to do all I canto encourage them to be involved. I
want to overly communicate with families.Right now, we're working on a back
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to the Basics program where we aredoing the most aggressive approach to get reading
scores up in the country. Andone of the things we're doing is we're
going to let every family every week. We're going to make sure every family
can see where their kid is andreading and where there need to be in
that grade level. And they're goingto see this on a chart and they're
going to see what the school isdoing to catch them up. They're also
going to see what they could bedoing at home with their child to help
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catch them up. Because we wantthe connection to be between the student,
the teacher, and the family.We want the family involved in every step
of the way. And again,what I want as a kid going home
talking to mom and dad, grandmaand grandpa, aunt and uncle. Here's
what we're working on. You know, I've struggled with this family has the
material they're able to sit down witha child. We have to have pro
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family policies. We have to havepolicies that are pro our military, pro
our police. I'm gonna tell youI wrote an op ed for The Hill
on this. You know, wewoke up, you know, after these
are bombings in Israel to college campusesscreaming for you know, you're waking up
to protest. I'm thinking, oh, well, good, I never thought
i'd see that. Ryan. Yeah, to see that Israel, you know,
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I mean, that's just show youhow far that this indoctrination has come.
But we've got to get things backon track, and that leads me
to my next question, the Chinaindoctrination of our children. Is it real?
Yes, I mean I've literally gotthe contracts. I mean, you
know, we had a school districtin the state that had a contract with
the Chinese Communist Party to teach acertain type of curriculum, and in the
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curriculum when that Chinese Communist government announcedthat, they said this is to push
indoctrination in the West. That wasliterally what they documented. This was in
twenty six schools across the country.I went and testified to Congress about this.
We in our state have blocked thisfrom happening. Again. I called
on Congress to pass this for theentire country. The Republicans in the House
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are looking to move that as quicklyas they can. But yes, the
Chinese are trying to undermine our countryin every way possible. That includes indoctrinating
your kids and undermining our schools.You know. One of the things that
alsoorts happened in at the schools isthat they're allowing children not to get the
basic skills. Like Oregon school chiefssuspend needs for high schoolers to prove math,
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reading, writing skills, and theyjust graduate, you know for that?
What is your opinion of that?Right? Look, that's where wokeism
leads. I mean, you know, you talk about creating a victim class,
You talk about creating this conflict andschools. Where does it end up?
It ends up to a point wherethey go, Okay, well this
doesn't work very well. So howdo we how It's not improving academic performance,
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it's making it worse. So what'sour answer. Let's just not look
at academic performance anymore. Let's justnot look at it all. Let's just
be ostriches and put our heads inthe sand and say that tests and assessments
are racist, and let's just noteven look at test scores anymore. There
is the State Board of Education,right, the State Board of Education rule
that students will no longer have tofulfill essential skills requirement in order to graduate.
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They're just gonna read. And theycan't read, they can't do math,
they can't balance the checkbook. Whatis going on with this? Not
is Joe Biden's vision for our educationsystem? Just rely on the government.
Okay, the government will bail youout. The government will fix things for
you. Instead of saying every individualis created by God with unique talents or
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unique skill set. So our goalon education system is, hey, we
want to equip you the best wecan and tell you, hey, you
can achieve whatever you want through hardwork and education and integrity. And so
we're going to try to build youup to do that. But it is
your responsibility as an individual to bea productive citizen of our society and to
be a good citizen, meaning youknow how you're productive in society, but
you're also productive in our government andour education system at large. And so
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that's what we've got to get backto. I am optimistic though parents have
woken up. We've got conservatives acrossthe country that are fighting back. I
believe that we're going to get thiscountry on the right path. But Bompton,
you've got to play offense. You'vegot to be aggressive. The left
has gotten really, really far.It's not for us to fight back but
actually move the ball forward with offense. Amen, all right, I want
to go up to a higher education. Now. I want to talk about
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as we see this war taking placein the in the Middle East of Israel.
We've seen babies beheaded, we seean innocent people raped, kidnapped.
You know elderly Drew Jus been burnedalive by sam as Hamas terrorists and including
twenty two Americans. So now allof a sudden we see which blows my
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mind. After all that American campusesare becoming anti Jewish there they want to
kill Jews, they want to sliptheir throats. Cornell University, where I
was a cop at at one timein Ithaca, New York, have people
saying let's go and slip their throats. What's your comment on this, Ryan,
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These higher education we should immediately intenure. Okay, any college professor that's
out promoting you know, pro homosbehavior should be fired. At number two
we should be getting you know,we've got good traditional folks that are donors
to these higher ed institutions. Theyshould band together and say not another dollar
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until you clean house. We're notgoing to donate to you. We've got
to have states that move to saywe're going to rid our college campuses of
this indoctrination. But this is whatwe've allowed to go on and hire ed.
We've allowed to to fester and growand grow and grow, and now
they're just out in the open.They are Semitic, they're anti American,
they're anti Christian. This is what'sgoing on in our higher ed institutions.
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We have to write the ship.But again, we should be ending tenure,
we should be stopping donations, andwe should be having states that look
into actively ridding out this indoctrination inthese institutions. Brian, your final thoughts
before we close this show. We'regoing to close it here in about one
minute, so your final thoughts.Well, look, I appreciate you guys
having me on. I appreciate yourfeedback there. Love what you're doing here.
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We've got to get education on theright track to get the country back
on track. I believe this takesus being very aggressive. I believe us
taking on directly the issues, takingthe Biden administration directly on teachers, unions
and the radical left. We've gotto do this, but I believe that
we are absolutely in the position todo it. Continue to empower families and
we will get this country back ontrack. All right, we're going to
wrap it right there. Ryan,thank you for being on the show.
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to the core of the actual thingthat took place, broad against Ricky is
alleged that Ricky yelled at Kram aftershooting him. As the police officer was
dying, he says, too late, motherfucker. I did it because I'm
tireder of than your shit. Thisis a monster. Who would ever say
that after shooting a police officer forwhat for a violation or rest warrant,
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that you would be at it outof the police station in five minutes,
ten minutes. Give me a break. This is a monster, a pure
evil, pure evil. So OfficerCram gave his life for us, Okay,
he was killed by this monster.These men and women that we dedicate
each and every show to, they'verisked their lives every day, put themselves
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in harm's way. And who's outthere and rage and mad we see everybody
else, and rage and mad aboutother people who are being shot and brutal
and I don't blame them for that, but where are they for the police
officers? Where are they when apolice officer dies in the line of duty?
Where's the national outrage? Police folks? Don't let these officers die in
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vain. They've given their lives forus. They stuff all right, Well,
usually we would have the news,but we're not going to have the
news. But I just want toget a quick comment from both police officers
that are on the show with ustoday. Buck, can you believe this
over a simple arrest warrant? Thisguy says some evil like that. Yeah,
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you know, I mean, unfortunately, nothing surprises me anymore. The
deterioration that we're seeing across the countrywith respect towards law enforcement officers is really
chilling. But as you said,this really serves as an example of there
is no easy day when a policeofficer puts on a badge and the uniform
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and heads out to work. Sosomething, as you said, as simple
as a harassment warrant and you know, obviously just just just terrible. And
yeah, I man, I don'tknow, I agree with you that.
You know, the media is totallyno outrage to what's going on in There's
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no outrage. This guy gave hislife for us, and there's no outrage,
Tanya. I know this hits home. Your comments. Well, you
know, first of all, myheart goes out not only to his family,
you know, his wife's children andparents, but also to his fellow
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brothers and sisters in uniform. Thisis something that is just happening way too
much nowadays. Our officers are beingattacked and I blame the narrative that the
media puts out every day. Yeah, you know what this individual that show
him, You know, evil isevil, is evil is evil. These
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are people that should never breathe thesame air we breathe. And these are
the people that need to be putbehind bars for the rest of their lives.
Not only that, but there aremany that deserve the death penalty,
and in this particular case, hemost certainly did. And we need to
start standing up for our long people. That silent majority needs to come out
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and they need to stand up forthose that go out there and do the
job every day and without hesitation,every single day. They're going out leaving
their families behind to protect us.You know, folks, I just want
to say this that behind Tanya,for those who have video behind Tanya is
Tanya's husband who was killed in theline of duty. He was in La
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County sheriff and he was brutally murderedby another monster. He gave his life
for us. And I want totell you, Tanya, not only are
you a hero, but your husband'sa hero. And I wanted to thank
you personally for everything you have doneto help us and everything he's done for
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us. I appreciate that. Thankyou, Chief, Thank you, you
got it. Chief. Yeah.I think the thing is so he's trying
to wrest him for a warrant.What that means is that this guy's gone
through some kind of judicial process usand a warrant has been issued. You
know, whether you lean right oryou lean left, there are laws in
the books, and ultimately some manor some woman who puts on a uniform,
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straps on a gun, and pendson a batch has to go out
and enforce that law. And likeI said, whether you're right or left,
you have to support the people whofinally have to go do the dirty
work and bring people to jail.Yeah. I appreciate that. All right,
let's get it to our guests.Our guest tonight is Ryan Walters an
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American educator, politician, and Ibelieve, a true American hero. But
that's just the start of Ryan Walters. He has been fighting for the souls
of our children in Oklahoma and he'sbeen winning. Ryan has been a vocal
critic of critical race theory and theteachers' union. Ryan has been looked up,
looked upon as the state's top culturalwarrior this stuff. The superintendent of
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Tulsa Public Schools resigned because Ryan threatenedto take over the Desert Schools Holadays,
people are trying to destroy the familynuclears and trying to a doctrinate our children
into hating this country, God,and who knows what else. And Ryan
is fighting to bring it back andhe's doing a hell of a job doing
it. So we need more peoplelike Ryan Walters. Ryan, welcome to
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the show. Well, let metell you, I sure appreciate you having
me, and you know, Iso appreciate the work that you all are
doing on the show. And youknow, hearing that heartbreaking story to start
the show, it reminds me ofwe've launched in our state discipline overhaul of
our schools. Because I'm going totell you this belief that law enforcement somehow
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is the enemy of communities. Ithas started. I agree the left has
been pushing this out in society,but they have also pushed it in our
schools. They have gotten into youngpeople to believe they're not responsible for their
actions. It's everybody else's fault,right, and it's the police that are
the bad guys. We've dealt withthat here. We have several cities trying
to defund the police here and conservativesmobilized together to go, We're gonna throw
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these mayors out. This is themost ridiculous thing we've ever heard, and
we're trying to bring into our schoolsdiscipline reform to go. Listen, we
are going to make sure kids understandyou are responsible for your actions. We
will not promote lawlessness in our schools, which then creates teenagers and adults that
believe that when things don't go theirway, it's okay to break the law,
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and it's the police officer's fault forholding them accountable for lawless behavior.
We're going to make sure that weget our schools back on track with discipline
as well, to make sure kidsunderstand that you have to be the one
responsible for your actions. This wokein doctrination has taken over every aspect of
our schools. We've got to getthese schools back on track. Here in
Oklahoma. We're playing offense. We'vegot a game plan and we are going
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to continue to execute it and continueto fight the woke out of our schools.
Well, I will tell you this, you know, Ryan, first
of all, thank you for allyou're trying to do, because I have
grandchildren and my daughter comes to mebecause she hears the show and she knew
that you were coming out, andshe's probably listening now and she goes dead.
I'm really scared of sending my childrento school because I hear things about
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critical race theory and how you know, we're all people of bad people if
you're white, and you know,what do I do with my children?
So one of the things that shehad asked me, she said, Dad,
what is critical race theory? Itwas never taught when I was going
through school. So Ryan, canyou please explain what this critical race theory
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is so the listeners can understand whatthe hell? This is? Great?
Great question. So it starts withthe premise that they believe that white people
are racist against black people, andthis goes back hundreds of years and it
has become embedded in the white race. So the white race is inherently racist.
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So you have to see everything throughthat lens to understand society. So
that's the premise they start there.So everything is racist. So and again
the absurdities. As you dig downin critical race theory, it gets so
crazy because you know, if awide individual doesn't treat a black individual correct
appropriately, it's racism. But ifthey treat them correctly, it's also racism
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because they're just doing it to hidetheir racism. See, so it's one
of these games that they imprint itinto young people's heads, and it's absurd,
but they view everything that way,and they particularly view America that way.
They view everything that happened through aprism of racism. So guess what.
The founders didn't want individual liberties becausethey believe those were liberties given to
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everyone by God. They wanted itbecause they wanted to enslave people. They
wanted the power to enslave black peopleforever. You know, why did we
why were we able to win thesewars? It's because of slavery and this
racism that we use. They vieweverything through that prism. And so what
it does is it creates class warfare. It makes students look at each other
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suspiciously and believe that their own classmatesare somehow racist against them already when you
know, and you have young kids, it's amazing, you know, the
innocence of young children of you knowwhat, if you teach them the right
thing, if you teach them principles, if you teach them morals and virtue,
they grow up in those things.Right, that's biblical. It's also
just common sense. But what we'veinstead done now is the opposite with critical
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race theory and say, hey,you've got to view the world, who
have a lens that everyone's racist againsteach other, And what a terrible way
to live, by the way,if you viewed the world that way.
But secondly, look at what itcreates. It creates conflict. It creates
frankly low expectations because everyone's a victim. Right, So we can't we can't
believe that minority students will achieve wellin school because they're oppressed at every every
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every term. And so what itdoes is it creates low expectations, It
creates conflict, and it creates incredibleconfusion. Amongst young people. Yeah,
to me, this is absolutely absurdbecause all you're doing is dividing, dividing
people, making them actually hate eachother. You're indoctrinating them to go against
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I will tell you, as apolice officer, every one of these people
on this show have probably been toa crime scene where a black child bleeds
red, a white child bleeds red. When you're holding that child because they
got a stab room or shot,you know, in their their body and
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the blood is coming out of themand their life is being lost right there
in front of you. You're notlooking at black, white, hispanic.
You're looking at a child losing theirlife at that moment. And we need
to start thinking that way where peopleare just people. Fuck your common oh
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boy, Okay, Yeah, Imean obviously I couldn't agree more so.
My family background is law enforcement andeducation, so I have family members that
are teachers as well in the schools. And the somewhat ironic thing that I
think is beginning to happen in theschools obviously, is there there's a lot
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of good teachers in there in theschool systems that are now being and I
kind of joke with with with myfamily and that they're finally getting I shouldn't
say finally, but they're getting thetreatment that law enforcement has been getting for
a long time. And to Ryan'spoint is that if a student isn't performing
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well in school, well then that'sthe teacher's fault. And if the kid
is misbehaving in the in the classroom, well then that's the teacher's fault because
the teacher should be doing something tomake them or help them behave better.
So what we've done with this criticalrace theory is basically throw yet another blockade
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of excuses out there instead of addressingthe true root problems that are going on
in our society. Tany you've beenthrough enough crime scenes in your career,
Black, white, hispanic didn't matter. A child dying is a child dying.
You cannot divide these people. What'syour comments? Well, you know
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to what Ryan was saying that,you know, children when they're born,
they have no opinion, right,very basic, and children learn what they
are taught in the home. Hopefullyparents are teaching them, you know,
good moral values, accountability and allthose things that we were taught as children.
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And when you go to a schooland the school feels that they have
to tell the children what is rightand what is wrong. Children are very
sudjustable, and all you're creating isthat division that we talked about now in
terms of us responding to different calls. Yes we care. Let's about the
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skin, the skin or the skincolor. At the end of the day,
you know, they are a humanbeing and they need our help.
And you know, with law enforcementwe have people of all races and I
look at everyone in the same color, you know, sand and green or
blue, whatever the color of youruniform is. There is no division between
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us. The children are not beingtaught that time. That's the problem with
this current theory. Absolutely, theschool feels that they have to be they
have to parent the children. Thechildren need to be parented buy their parents
at home how and the school istaking that away from the parents so much
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so that if a child wants whoidentify as something different or they have are
struggling with an identity issue, theydon't want to tell the parents. That
is not the school's job. Theschool's job is to teach basic education,
math, English, history, allthose things and let the children. Let
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the students decide for themselves. Theschools are trying to brainwash if you will,
the students and the thinking a certainway, which is dangerous. Chief
before we get on to the nextquestion. Your comment, well, I'll
build a little bit on what Tanyasays is, you know, the last
ten years so the family has beenunder assault anyway, so I think they're
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okay with breaking up the family.But I really wanted to get to something
that Ryan touched on. And youknow, we have these values that came
out of the Enlightenment, and rightnow wocism seems to be attacking the very
values that came out of the Enlightenment, which is the premiscy of the individual
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human rights given to you by God, which led to the Bill of Rights,
which actually led to the freedom ofeverybody in this country. But now
they perverted that thinking and rejected thosetheorists, and they want to oppress others
based upon the color of their skin. That's it seems like we've gone full
circle. And so I was hopingto get Ryan's comment on that. Well,
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let's ask him Ryan your comments onyou Well, that that was a
great comment, and so what happenshere is exactly what you just described.
We're actually going backwards. What we'veseen is what's made America great. Right,
Like, you take a step backand you go what didn't make America
great? Well, our founders saidit was a belief an individual liberty,
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the belief that God intended for individualsto be essentially free. Right. You
start there, and then you addin morality. You know, our founders
believe, look, hey, we'rea Judeo Christian people. Doesn't mean everyone's
got to be that way, butmost people were that way. They had
a moral code. So if youhave a moral code, you don't need
this tyrannical government to police people.What you have is you have a government
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that is there to enforce certain laws. But for the most part, you
want people to be right because youwant to maximize their individual liberty with limited
government. Right. And our foundersdid a deep dive into history to study
ancient Greece, ancient Rome. Youknow, I can go down this road
and this is a group. Yeah, I can tell by you all and
your show, your listeners are folksthat know this history very well. You
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know, the founders they studied folkslike Blutart, They studied Roman history,
They studied the Greek history to tryto figure out, how do we walk
this line to maximize liberty but stillhave a successful limited form of government.
Well, if you talk through thiswith kids, you can talk through this
with young people. You go throughthe Declaration of Independence, the Federalist papers,
you go even back, you goin before that, talk about the
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Enlightenment. Right, you get thisunderstanding of oh, this was really really
thought out with an understanding of historyand an understanding of human nature to create
this incredible country. Well, ifyou go by the critical race theory,
lens history is not important. Why, Well, all those people were racist
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and what drove them was racism.So if you truly believe that Thomas Jefferson
was just a racist to his core, and that nothing that came out of
his mouth was important, why studyhim? Why look back into a deep
dive into the Constitution. The Federalistpapers, they reject history, they reject
truth, They reject the wisdom thatcomes from our history, which is why
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you see them fight so hard topush this in doctrination in school. Here
in Oklahoma, we've launched initiatives toget true history back in schools. We
made Praeger You available to all studentsacross the state. Parents, teachers,
schools can all use it. Andwhat they do is they do these narratives
about the Founders. They do oneon Jefferson, on Washington, and it's
wonderful. They go all the waydown through grade school and it's these great
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examples of you know, what's importantabout George Washington, what made him a
successful leader? And he goes allthe way up into the high school curriculum.
Oh my goodness. The left losttheir mind over here. They hated
it. They hated that we wereshining such a spotlight on our history and
actually wanting kids to have that deepunderstanding of the Founders, because again,
if you viewed things through the viewthat everybody, every white person in our
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history, was just this evil racist, especially our Founders, you don't see
the wisdom and studying it and youwant to talk about I mean that what's
the old adage, those who don'tknow history are doomed to repeat the mistakes
of the past. That's exactly whatwe're going to do to young people.
We're not going to continue the greatexperiment that is America by continuing these core
principles. We're actually going to gobackwards and find ourselves in a tyrannical government,
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find ourselves with a society that's unmooredfrom reality. That is a terrible
place to live. And that's whatmy fear is. If we don't get
education back on track, that's thedecisions the future generation is going to be
making. You know, Ryan,you know what you remind me of.
I'm thinking this that some cultures,some countries. I don't know if you've
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ever seen the movie The Killing Field. Oh yes, what you're saying actually
reminds me where the indoctrination of childrenwas to turn them against the parents and
to actually show the parents were eviland they had to be destroyed. And
that's exactly what indoctrination can lead to. And if we don't stop it now,
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how far are they going to gowith this? And I want to
ask you a question about, asfar as I'm concerned, Education's public enemy
number one, Raindy Winegarden and thecrap that she's spewing out there, how
do you deal with these unions andher You know that she's over in Ukraine
and I'm surprised she's not in Chinaand every place else under the sun.
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If anybody needed to be ousted outof her job, that's the one number
one publicadomy number one of education.What's your comments on this? Ryan?
Yeah, I think we have todestroy the teachers unions. I mean you
know that. I get a lotof flak for that from the left,
and they just lose their mind.I go, guys, who has done
more damage to our kids than theteachers' unions? Remember they brought in critical
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race theory, they brag about it. They brought in this transgender education where
they want to talk to third andfourth graders about, Hey, there's twenty
seven genders and let's talk to youabout sexuality here because we want to be
inclusive. So that means second graders, away from your parents, let's talk
to you guys about sex. Thinkabout how grossly inappropriate that is. These
are the folks that have lowered standards. These are the folks that called teachers
who attend school board meetings terrorists andgot the federal government to go in and
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investigate parents that wanted to attend schoolboard meetings to find out what was going
on in their schools. They havedone tremendous damage to our kids. And
I'm going to tell you this whatwe're doing in our state. I'm doing
everything I can to throw them outof schools. Okay, the Teachers' union
doesn't advocate for kids, and frankly, they don't even advocate for teachers.
They are taking money from teachers' paychecks. All they're interested in is power and
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money, and they are utilizing thatpower and that money to indoctrinate our kids
to create social justice warriors to goreelect Joe Biden and I mean and by
the way, their political contributions areclear. They give over ninety six percent
of their money to Democrats. Inmy race, I ran for this office.
They spent twelve million dollars against mein this race because I said,
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I want to ensure parents are firstin their kids' lives. I want to
create an environment where parents can choosewhere their kids go to school. I
want to protect their rights. Iwant to bring in merit pay for teachers
so great teachers can make more money. They hated that too. They have
fought me every step of the way, invested all this money against me.
But again, I just go rightout to parents and go, guys,
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let me talk about their track recordthat they don't want you to know about.
They are doing tremendous damage to ourkids, you know, Ryan years
Agoo they actually took such sex educationout of the high school Our producer actually
sent this comment to me. Sothey had taken sex education out of the
high schools years ago, but nowthey want to put it in elementary schools.
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I can understand the science that youwant to teach kids at an older
age appropriately, but pornography and elementaryschools books that talk about ungodly sex acts,
you know, that were read tome by people who went to investigate
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this, parents who said, Chris, you got to see what's in these
books that kids are signing out.This is stuff that you would find in
you know, magazines that have whitecovers on them. This is crazy,
Ryan, And I'll tell you guys. So when I came in office,
I mean I had parents, youknow, I'm out campaigning, and they're
showing me these books that they're findingtheir schools. And so one of the
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first things I passed is a rulethat says you can't have pornographic material in
your schools period. And we beginto see the teachers Union and frankly even
some Rhinos fighting back on us onthis, going, hey, you got
to be inclusive of you know,you got to talk to kids about transsexualism,
and you got to show them thesepictures and these and I thought,
this is the most outrageous thing I'veever heard. So I go to a
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school board meeting, my state boardof Education, and I show the images
of some of the most egregious books, books like Flamer Gender Queer that I'm
I'm not talking about like a youknow, the old sex said classes where
it's like here's the anatomy, youknow. No, I mean it is
graphic sexual positions, not censored atall, and just I mean in great
schools, in elementary school. SoI show them the PowerPoint of these these
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pictures, and I said, themedia, by the way, the fake
news media, they were unbelievable inthis. At first they reported on these
these books because I mean, itwas so outrageous. Then they started attacking
me, going, oh, well, what are you talking about. I
don't we don't believe there is pornographicmaterial in schools. And I was like,
guys, I tweeted back at him, I go, here's all your
reporting on these books. So Iknow that you've got selective amnesia here to
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pretend like you didn't report about it, you know, just a few months
ago. But I bring them intoa board meeting. Then they start with
the narrative that you know, it'sreally not as bad as Ryan is saying
they are. So I said,okay, I put them all on a
PowerPoint on the board meeting. Igo, hey, media, you've been
out reporting. I'm exaggerating how badit is. Show these images on the
news tonight. Let let your viewersdecide. Let them decide if that's appropriate
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for kids or not. I hadone of the reporters tweet at me and
say, you know, Ryan,you challenge us to show this on the
news tonight. I took it tomy producer and they said, you know,
we can't show that on TV.There could be kids watching. And
I go, you want to talkabout missing the point? I said,
that's why when we found these booksin schools, we were dedicated to ensuring
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that no child's going to be sentto a school or they see images like
that. Absolutely fuck As a parent, you' I mean pornography and elementary schools.
Yeah, you know. Unfortunately,and thankfully I didn't have to deal
with that when my kids were inschool, but there's certainly a reality now
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across and have grandchildren soon though.That's that's true. And you know,
ironically, I was talking with ayoung woman that I know who was a
teacher and basically she left the professiona year ago and is homeschooling her own
children because she is just fed upwith the craziness that that is what they're
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calling the education system currently. Tanya, your mother, what do you think
if your child brought home a bookthat had sexual positions, oral sex everything.
I mean, you got to beenraged about that. Oh, I
would margin myself right to the schooland go and yell at the principle it
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is not the responsibility to talk aboutanything involving you know, sex or anything
like that is the parent's job.And that Ryan, you know what,
My hats off to you that youare championing this. Anything we can do,
please let us know, because thishas to stop again. You know,
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Chris was talking about sex education beingtaught back in the day when we
were in high school, and eventhen, every student had to get a
permission slip signed by the parent andthe parents were told exactly what was going
to be shown in that video andwe have nothing. So it allowed the
parents to be involved. And nowwhen you take the parents out of this
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the schools becomes a parent and there'ssome things that we disagree as parents that
we don't want the schools to teach. You know, whatever happened to PTA
Parent Teachers Association? Do we evenstill have those? Are they getting involved?
That's a good question, Ryan.How strong are the ptas now?
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So that is a fantastic question.So what we've seen is a lot of
the larger ptas have actually been coopted by the teachers' unions and the schools
where they begin to just put on, you know, folks that are friendly
to the administrators, friends with thesuperintendents and principles and so what we've actually
seen, and I've been very encouragedby this is now in Oklahoma around the
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country, I've seen a lot ofparent groups that are newly formed, that
are newly coming together to say,hey, look, we're gonna hold everyone
accountable. And that's what I tellevery parent. You know, no one
knows better for their kids than youdo. Anybody that would even suggest otherwise
that's an absurd position. So ifyou're upset, you're frustrated with what's going
on with your kid, and Iremember I'm a former public school history teacher.
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Look I always told parents, Hey, if you've got a question about
anything I'm doing, you've got asuggestion about anything I'm doing. If there's
anything that I need to know aboutyour child or I need to be doing
differently to help your child, youlet me know, because again, hey,
I'm gonna do my best to helpyour child learn. I'm gonna hold
a high bar for your kid,never going to know your kid as well
as you do. I mean,so you tell me what I can do
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better to help your child. Everygood teachers that way, right, So
why in the world do you havesome school officials that say, you know,
just just hey, we don't needyou here, We don't want to
hear your feedback. There's a majorproblem with that. So groups like Moms
for Liberty have come up where theyreally organize very quickly to go put pressure
on administrators that don't listen to parents. I'll give you examples. You know,
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during COVID, we saw unbelievable actionsfrom administrators against parents, you know,
holding kids out of school for insome places over two years, not
allowing them in school. We sawthese unbelievable you know, mandates placed on
individuals as young as pre k andkindergarten kids. And so you talk to
parents and you go, were youever talked to about these decisions? Were
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you ever giving a voice? Well, no, they weren't. And I
think it's very important that we continueto give parents as much power as possible
in our schools. We protect theirrights and we ensure that Listen, when
a decision is made about your child, it is you who drives that decision.
Okay, an educator and administrator,they can give you some inputs,
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some feedback, but ultimately you,the parents, should be the one making
the decision. And again, anyeducation bureaucrat that would come to you and
dare say they know better for yourkids than you do, they're outrageous.
They need to find another job becausea parent knows best for their kids.
But this is what the left.You guys mentioned this earlier. The Left
fundamentally wants to turn kids against theirfamilies. They want the breakdown of the
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family. It's not a coincidence thatall of their policies have led to the
breakdown of the family unit. AndI'm gonna tell you why, Because if
kids are unmoored from their family,if kids are not in these tight family
units where hey I bring everything tomom and dad. I get there,
I seek out their guidance, Ilisten for their feedback in the way I
lead my life. They know theycan indoctrinate them, they know that they
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can turn them into social justice warriors. They are lifelong Democrat voters. That
that's where they're going to be.They're only going to listen to the propaganda
be and pushed to them, ratherthan sitting at the kitchen table with mom,
dad, grandma, and grandpa andtalking about the values that they want
to hold as a family, talkingabout what's important in their life as they
go older. That's what we shouldbe sitting. Policies to try to protect
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and bring us back to the chief. I know you're chomping at the bits,
so go ahead. Well, Ireally have kind of two things,
and they're completely different, and certainlyRyan can weigh in. I mean,
the policies of not talking to parentsif they believe a child is suffering from
gender dysphoria. In California, it'sno law. It has to be that
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way, and we have school districtspushing back on that. Yet, when
you do what you're supposed to do, your due diligence and you look at
the studies. The policy is reallybased upon bad science, you know,
and there emerging science is indicating itmight be the wrong way to go.
That's the first part of that question, you know. The second one is
is the abandonment of the meritocracy.I was hoping maybe you could comment on
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that as well. So, yeah, two great questions. You know.
The first one, so in Oklahoma, we've been doing the opposite. We
have made it a requirement that anyconversation about sexual identity you have to talk
to the parent and get the parentspermission before ever engaging a child with them.
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So if a child came to aschool counselor or a teacher and said,
you know, I'm thinking about changingmy gender, the responses you immediately
call the parent, informed them,ask them how you would want them to
proceed. So that is now wehave required that from school districts. But
I want to show you even howthis has gone a step further. We
literally have had two federal judges tryto require our schools to go back and
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change the records of transgender students andpretend like they were never the other gender.
So if a male student said theywere female, they came in and
tried to tell our schools, ifyou don't go back now and change every
record going back to pre K,that they've now decided there email that now
all the records in the school haveto reflect that, the teachers have to
call them by the new pronouns.If they don't, we will adjudicate this,
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we will sue you. Well,we stepped in and said we're not
going to do that. Okay,we're not going to do this transgender game
in our schools. We're not goingto do this back and forth back.
No, no, no, we'renot doing that. No school is going
to go back and change these records. No school is going to force school
employees to change gender pronouns. Youjust look at these absurd conversations the left
is forcing on our schools. We'vegot to stand in truth. We have
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to stand in reality in our schoolsand not allow the left to bully their
way into that. And your secondquestion was about meritocracy, and look,
the Union has fought me hard onthis and we're winning. I've said,
listen, we should inject the freemarket into our schools. If you're a
great teacher, I want you tomake a lot more money as a matter
of fact, in Oklahoma, youcan make up to six figures in the
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classroom if you show that you're anexceptional teacher. At the same time,
we also gave signing bonuses. Weattracted over nine hundred teachers to apply for
our signing bonus program. We didit based on merit. Well, you
could get to fifty thousand dollars tomove the state of Oklahoma to be a
teacher, if you could show usthat you were in the top five percent
of your profession, If you couldshow us that you were going to go
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to a school that was struggling,If you could show us you're going to
go to a high poverty school,if you could show us that you had
a credential that we've been trying toget in our state. Again, we
want to pay for performance. Wewant to make sure that we are incentivizing
excellence in our schools because so muchof what's happened our schools. It's socialists
in nature to say you're going toget the same amount of money no matter
how well of a job you do. What you've got to start doing is
(39:36):
injecting free market principles in our schoolsand it will incentivize better performance. It
will reward the best teachers, andat the end of the day, what
you're going to see is you're goingto see us get more out of our
kids in a system like that.Yeah, okay, here's the question I
got for you though, Ryan,Now pull up that last picture for me,
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would you please? No next one? Okay? So, apparently,
allegedly, this is a principle ofJohn Elementary School. It's been reported that
she is a drag queen, goesby the name is Chantel Mandalay or something,
and she's the principal of an elementaryschool dressed like this at the school.
(40:21):
Is this correct? Ryan? Sohere's here's the deal. So we
have a this is a principal.I can't pitch anymore. You know,
you got to take it down.This is a principal one of our elementary
schools. What they've been doing isthey have been dressing in drag and promoting
the fact why they're in drag atpublic shows that they're also a principal.
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They've also been doing drag Storytime Hourto young children outside of school as well,
So so interacting with young children dressedin drag, promoting the fact that
I'm a principal by day, thenI drag after hours, and we continue
to have all these allegations about circlingaround this individual and what they're doing in
the school and outside of the school. And so I said, listen,
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this isn't appropriate. You can't havea principle that is out talking about being
a drag queen and by the way, openly saying like, look, I
don't hide it. I don't hideit, you know, from anyone.
And so this is and then bythe way, she went, he went
and hired another drag queen to bea teacher's assistant in the same school.
And I had parents from the districtreaching out. I had parents across the
state going, what in the worldis going on here? I'm seeing my
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kids. It's one of the worstperforming schools, by the way, in
that shocker, by the way,I think there's a connection going on here,
right. You see folks that areso obsessed with pushing this woke ideology
on kids that they're not getting thebasics down. And so I demanded this
individual be fired. Look, theygot to go work somewhere else. You
can't be working in a school bebragging about dressing in drag being doing drag
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time story hour with kids and thentrying to promote you know, academic success
and virtue with our young people.It's just not gonna It's not appropriate.
I've heard from parents all all overthe state, frankly all over the country
that have reached out on this one, and we're going to correct this,
but I do want it to bea word of caution for your viewers.
Hey, we're the most conservative statein the country. I mean, we
are very conservative, and look atthe influence the teachers' union and the radical
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left still have in a state likeours. And we've got a big school
district that thought that was an appropriatehiring decision. Yeah, when I saw
that story, I could imagine myselfgoing into the principal's office. I'm going
to ask Taya, Tanya, ifyou walked into the principal's office to meet
the principal and Shan tell there metyou, what's your comment. Well,
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you know, quite honestly, thatinfuriates me because it comes down to this,
whatever he's doing, and quite honestly, that's this personal you know he
likes doing that. That's fine.You're out of school. You need to
be professional and Unfortunately, what happenswhen you show up to a school like
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that, you are distracting the studentsfrom what they're supposed to be at school
for. And with children who arealready struggling with a lot of things,
when you show up like that andyou have these sessions with them, now
you may have children that are questioningcertain things when they don't have to because
they really don't know how they shouldfeel. And a lot of children want
(43:23):
to feel accepted, a lot ofchildren want to feel included. And if
this individual is getting attention because ofthe way he dresses, then are we
going to have We're sending the wrongmessage to kids. Frankly, it's very
disturbing to me. It absolutely is. Buck you walk into principal's office.
(43:44):
Yeah, it probably wouldn't go well, but I mean it shows the level
you know, as you were talkingabout that and showing the clip on that
of indoctrination that we've been talking aboutthat unfortunately large number of individuals, uh,
not only in our in our schoolsystems, but it wasn't long ago.
(44:07):
Here in New York. The NewYork State Attorney General, who's like
the highest law enforcement if you will, in in the State Investigative Powers in
there hosted a drag Queen Story Hour. The New York State Attorney General did
(44:27):
that, right, So I thinkto to Tanya's point, what does it
show as far as normalizing it orthe attempt on normalizing it? And and
and yes, by the way,the Attorney general is is very far left
leaning in it. But there anybodythat doesn't think that there's a definitive plan
(44:50):
to indoctrinate our youth, uh issadly mistaken. Well, that's going to
bring my next question after the chiefscomment. Chief you walk right, Yeah,
Ryan, I just look at youknow, what I always learned about
society is that you we want ourinstitution just to change slowly. We don't
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want them to change fast because itgives time for society and every to adjust
to what might be, you know, the new trend. You know,
because throwing out the past isn't alwaysa good idea, as you kind of
talked about history. But it seemsto me that there is this efforts to
really push like our military, youknow, you're allowed to be transgender in
(45:34):
military now and law enforcement the sameway. And we're not we're going very
fast. We're pushing these very fast, and I just think it's destructive to
society and the family. I justwanted to get your thoughts on that.
You know, is GK. Chestertonthat said, you know, when you
come upon a fence, before youtear it down, you might want to
try to understand why the fence wascreated there, right, you know,
and you see this with society,and again, I want to be clear
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on this. I believe this isintentional. Now, you know, to
your point, you see these changesin society and you're going, why is
so much of what we're hearing fromthe federal government, from Joe Biden from
the Democrat Party, why does italways end in undermining the traditional family?
Well, you come to a pointwhere you go, that's the plan,
(46:20):
that's the goal, because what weshould be doing instead is trying to encourage
families to be together. Try toencourage you know, we want there to
be more families in this country.We want our kids to grow up.
You know, I've got four littleones. I've got a nine year old,
a six year old, a fouryear old, and a two year
old. You know, and wetry to prioritize family time. We talk
a lot, we talk a lotabout our faith. We're Christian. We
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talk a lot about God, wetalk a lot about Bible figures, we
talk about history, we talk aboutour day, we talk about school.
We really try to have that closebond. And you know, as I
talk to families across the state,you know, and across the country,
they want to do the same thing. But what you continue to see your
policies that try to drive the familypart try to inject government every step of
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the way, where the reliance becomeson government officials bureaucrats instead of going home
first, relying on mom and dad. And again, from my point,
I try to do all I canto encourage parntal involvement. Look, you
know there are some families that aren'tinvolved in their kids' education. Well,
I'm trying to do all I canto encourage them to be involved. I
want to overly communicate with families.Right now, we're working on a back
(47:28):
to the Basics program where we aredoing the most aggressive approach to get reading
scores up in the country. Andone of the things we're doing is we're
going to let every family every week. We're going to make sure every family
can see where their kid is andreading and where there need to be in
that grade level. And they're goingto see this on a chart and they're
going to see what the school isdoing to catch them up. They're also
going to see what they could bedoing at home with their child to help
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catch them up. Because we wantthe connection to be between the student,
the teacher, and the family.We want the family involved in every step
of the way. And again,what I want as a kid going home
talking to mom and dad, grandmaand grandpa, aunt and uncle. Here's
what we're working on. You know, I've struggled with this family has the
material they're able to sit down witha child. We have to have pro
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family policies. We have to havepolicies that are pro our military, pro
our police. I'm gonna tell youI wrote an op ed for The Hill
on this. You know, wewoke up, you know, after these
are bombings in Israel to college campusesscreaming for you know, you're waking up
to protest. I'm thinking, oh, well, good, I never thought
i'd see that. Ryan. Yeah, to see that Israel, you know,
(48:36):
I mean, that's just show youhow far that this indoctrination has come.
But we've got to get things backon track, and that leads me
to my next question, the Chinaindoctrination of our children. Is it real?
Yes, I mean I've literally gotthe contracts. I mean, you
know, we had a school districtin the state that had a contract with
the Chinese Communist Party to teach acertain type of curriculum, and in the
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curriculum when that Chinese Communist government announcedthat, they said this is to push
indoctrination in the West. That wasliterally what they documented. This was in
twenty six schools across the country.I went and testified to Congress about this.
We in our state have blocked thisfrom happening. Again. I called
on Congress to pass this for theentire country. The Republicans in the House
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are looking to move that as quicklyas they can. But yes, the
Chinese are trying to undermine our countryin every way possible. That includes indoctrinating
your kids and undermining our schools.You know. One of the things that
alsoorts happened in at the schools isthat they're allowing children not to get the
basic skills. Like Oregon school chiefssuspend needs for high schoolers to prove math,
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reading, writing skills, and theyjust graduate, you know for that?
What is your opinion of that?Right? Look, that's where wokeism
leads. I mean, you know, you talk about creating a victim class,
You talk about creating this conflict andschools. Where does it end up?
It ends up to a point wherethey go, Okay, well this
doesn't work very well. So howdo we how It's not improving academic performance,
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it's making it worse. So what'sour answer. Let's just not look
at academic performance anymore. Let's justnot look at it all. Let's just
be ostriches and put our heads inthe sand and say that tests and assessments
are racist, and let's just noteven look at test scores anymore. There
is the State Board of Education,right, the State Board of Education rule
that students will no longer have tofulfill essential skills requirement in order to graduate.
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They're just gonna read. And theycan't read, they can't do math,
they can't balance the checkbook. Whatis going on with this? Not
is Joe Biden's vision for our educationsystem? Just rely on the government.
Okay, the government will bail youout. The government will fix things for
you. Instead of saying every individualis created by God with unique talents or
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unique skill set. So our goalon education system is, hey, we
want to equip you the best wecan and tell you, hey, you
can achieve whatever you want through hardwork and education and integrity. And so
we're going to try to build youup to do that. But it is
your responsibility as an individual to bea productive citizen of our society and to
be a good citizen, meaning youknow how you're productive in society, but
you're also productive in our government andour education system at large. And so
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that's what we've got to get backto. I am optimistic though parents have
woken up. We've got conservatives acrossthe country that are fighting back. I
believe that we're going to get thiscountry on the right path. But Bompton,
you've got to play offense. You'vegot to be aggressive. The left
has gotten really, really far.It's not for us to fight back but
actually move the ball forward with offense. Amen, all right, I want
to go up to a higher education. Now. I want to talk about
(51:34):
as we see this war taking placein the in the Middle East of Israel.
We've seen babies beheaded, we seean innocent people raped, kidnapped.
You know elderly Drew Jus been burnedalive by sam as Hamas terrorists and including
twenty two Americans. So now allof a sudden we see which blows my
(51:57):
mind. After all that American campusesare becoming anti Jewish there they want to
kill Jews, they want to sliptheir throats. Cornell University, where I
was a cop at at one timein Ithaca, New York, have people
saying let's go and slip their throats. What's your comment on this, Ryan,
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These higher education we should immediately intenure. Okay, any college professor that's
out promoting you know, pro homosbehavior should be fired. At number two
we should be getting you know,we've got good traditional folks that are donors
to these higher ed institutions. Theyshould band together and say not another dollar
(52:44):
until you clean house. We're notgoing to donate to you. We've got
to have states that move to saywe're going to rid our college campuses of
this indoctrination. But this is whatwe've allowed to go on and hire ed.
We've allowed to to fester and growand grow and grow, and now
they're just out in the open.They are Semitic, they're anti American,
they're anti Christian. This is what'sgoing on in our higher ed institutions.
(53:05):
We have to write the ship.But again, we should be ending tenure,
we should be stopping donations, andwe should be having states that look
into actively ridding out this indoctrination inthese institutions. Brian, your final thoughts
before we close this show. We'regoing to close it here in about one
minute, so your final thoughts.Well, look, I appreciate you guys
having me on. I appreciate yourfeedback there. Love what you're doing here.
(53:29):
We've got to get education on theright track to get the country back
on track. I believe this takesus being very aggressive. I believe us
taking on directly the issues, takingthe Biden administration directly on teachers, unions
and the radical left. We've gotto do this, but I believe that
we are absolutely in the position todo it. Continue to empower families and
we will get this country back ontrack. All right, we're going to
wrap it right there. Ryan,thank you for being on the show.
(53:51):
Folks, these are your children thatare being indoctnated. We got to start
doing something about it. I wantto thank everybody for watching our show.
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Thank you Ryan for being on theshow. A great organization. Wounded Blue
is for the entire team. Staysafe and good night. I'm checking my
battle, Sanda, my battle.I'm going nowhere again. Don't remember them
inside of my chest. I needit. Just I know I was born
(54:34):
for this. I know I wasborn for this, Okay, for the
critics, my one a lot physics, and for us to take you up.
Thank you don't get it. Ithink you forget it, my don't.
I was born for this. Iknew I was born for this.
I believe. I believe we canright, So I believe I believe it
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can be in known. We aresin, we come from different places,
but the same, because we willwill. We are the bucking Brons.
(55:20):
Whatever they pass the same, becausewe will, because we will be,
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