MUFON Contact Radio - The Launch Party...On the Precipice

Today, C.J. and I continued the journey that Earl Grey Anderson and Sev Tok started.  With the passing of the reins to us, we are adding our vision for the path forward while ensuring Earl and Sev's Legacy.   We are ‘On the Precipice’ of evolution and discovery where our awareness is expanding, so come and join us on this adventure.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome to on the Precipice move On Contact Radio program
with your hosts CJ. Arabia and Richard Ansak, where discovery,
disclosure and evolvement meet. We are on the cusp of
evolutionary realizations, technologies and awareness. So come along and share

(00:31):
in the adventure of discovery of who we really are
and where we are coming.

Speaker 2 (00:50):
Man, that is a really cool opening.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
I know, it's so cool. I love it just.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
To be part of something like this and have that
kind of opening is it's just really special for me
because this is all brand new for me.

Speaker 5 (01:03):
Yeah, doing the podcast and also just caring forward the
legacy of Earl Gray Anderson. And you know, this was
a show that he and sev Talk started and I
just have to say, it's an extreme honor to be
picking up the torch and carrying it forward.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
And you know the thing about Earl and we both
so we're both blessed enough and fortunate enough to not
only no Earl, but work with Earle because we're both
from southern California, mofon and I cut my teeth. He
gave me my first start. I cut my teeth. He
led me down the sidings and then eventually into our
RT for mofon, which we deal with people who's who've

(01:41):
experienced obdeption and other phenomena. But I'm just so honored
and blessed to be part of what Earle created with
SEV and that we.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Can take it to the next level. So I'm really
happy to be here.

Speaker 5 (01:53):
Welcome to thank you, Thank you you too, Richard. It's
so good to see you here. And yeah, I mean
the same thing I I met Earle.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
I was someone who reported her case to move.

Speaker 5 (02:04):
On and Gino, who is now our state director, was
the cheap Field investigator at the time and he was
assigned to my case and I spoke with him, and
then he messaged me not long after and said, hey,
would you mind talking to my state director. I was like, oh,
this sounds very serious, and it was Earle and he

(02:24):
I was so nervous, you know, because it's something you
don't talk about a lot. Well I didn't. I can't
speak for everybody who's had a UFO experience. It's something
I didn't talk about. It's something I didn't share with
many people because I was used to getting those looks
of like okay, crazy, So to have somebody in a position.

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Of authority and expertise to be able to say to me.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
That he's heard these things before, that I wasn't the
first person, because you know a lot of us in
our lives and we're the only one we know who's
had this kind of experience.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
You don't meet somebody else. So honestly, I cried.

Speaker 5 (03:03):
Like he would always tell people, oh, you were a mess,
and it's like, well, yeah, I was crying.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
I was.

Speaker 5 (03:08):
I couldn't believe that somebody was believing what I said
and accepting it as the truth that I.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
Knew it to be.

Speaker 5 (03:16):
You know that, you know, like like just something in
the room, like any object in the room, not just
some sort of ethereal sort of late night dream that happened.
It was amazing. And then from there I met some
people at Moufon and they encouraged me to become a
field investigator and I did, and then I joined the ERT,

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and here we are now similar to.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
Your story, I would assume, right.

Speaker 4 (03:43):
I mean, you know it's funny that you were saying
what you were saying about Earl because my background is
in law enforcement and other aspects of law enforcement. So
you know, when we approach an investigation, we approach it
from maybe that perspective. But one of the things Earl
told me, because he said, you know, Richard, know you
want to dot to tie teas and across the t's

(04:04):
and dot the i's, but he said, these people who
in terms of the ERT, they've had this experience, they're
the witness, they're the evidence, and you just have to
believe that. Now again, you know, we've studied this stuff.
We know people if they have some credibility or if
they are able to convince us enough based on either
our experience or our understanding of the phenomena, whether they

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are genuine or whether they're experiencing some other things.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
But it was really cool that Earl was able to
do that.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
And then through my own journey as an ERT investigator
and my time on moof On, I learned that you
just got to trust them and go with it and
appreciate it and just open yourself. So here we are today,
we're kicking off the next version or the evolution of

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what Earl and Sev started, and we came to an understanding,
if you remember CJ, that we would sort of christened
this on the precipice, Uh, you know, move on contact
radio and we're going to talk a little bit about
what that means in just a second. So I think
we're going to go down the road, maybe just sharing
a little bit of background of people can know who

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we are. So if you don't mind, I'll go first.
If that's okay, please do well. I am part of
a military family. My father was in the United States
Air Force. I was born in Nellis Air Force Base
again Wow particular base, and we were overseas for many

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years as I was a kid, and then we came
back to New York. And from New York, I went
to Miami and went to school down there. I was
blessed enough to go, and I apologize for people who
don't really understand us, but I went. I graduated from
Florida State University Go Seminoles, and so my career in

(06:00):
law enforcement started. I was blessed to start with the
Florida Department of Corrections, Parole and Probation Service in Panama
City in nineteen eighty five, and I worked as an investigator.
And then I went to the Border Patrol in eighty
eight for three years, which brought me to southern California,
and I got an opportunity to go over to a

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local police department in the Indio Police Department, where I
spent the next twenty two years in various functions. Ultimately
I retired as a police captain there and I was
very honored to be a part of that. But after retirement,
you know, you know, I.

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Wanted to get involved. So that's that aspect.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
So my interest in the subject UFO space, it's just
like a lot of people from the sixties, fifties and sixties.
I watched Star Trek in nineteen sixty nine. I was
living in Syracuse, New York, and that came on. We
had three channels, but I just loved it. I loved

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and I have to say, and I'm just gonna do
it because I'm got a geek out a little bit.
I still have my spock plate that we got and
you're not going, you're not gonna believe this. But I
got one of these phases when I was younger. I
think it's really cool. And then I got I got
a tricorder again, just one of those things that are cute,

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and so that actually started me in the you know,
the field of exploration of all kinds of things. So
I got involved in learning and reading, and I was
watching movies Permuda Triangle because we moved to Miami, and
then all the other things that happened at are Anomalist
and it's just all these years studying reading, you know,

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wanting to be apart, and when it came to move on,
and I will tell you that the person who took me,
that brought me to move on was my wife, because
she knows my interest. My Lisa is the one who
takes care of me and guides me on these things.
And so I was glad that she did it, and
she opened me up to the membership and then next thing,
you know, here I am.

Speaker 2 (08:01):
So I'm really.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
Glad to be a part of this and I'm really
excited to be a part of the next journey that
we're on on the Precipice.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
So, CJ. Tell us a little bit about yourself.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Great sure.

Speaker 5 (08:13):
I was born and raised in San Diego, California, East County,
on the outskirts of alcohol in near Alpine, and I
spent a lot of time at my grandparents' ranch. We
lived there off and on. It was a place a
lot of family members lived. There were like thirteen of

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us and two bedrooms, one bathroom.

Speaker 3 (08:36):
You know, it was pretty old school, seventy style.

Speaker 5 (08:40):
I think my grandfather built the whole house with his
own two hands and a few helpers. And you know,
it was walking home from school. I don't know exactly
what year it was. I'm going to I just guessed
nineteen seventy seven because I found an article with a
UFO report from the city next door. It was nice
teen seventy seven, So I'm just going to call it

(09:01):
nineteen seventy seven. Could have been seventy six, seventy eight,
I don't know. In that ballpark, walking home from school,
and I'm walking with a boy from the bus stop
up to the ranch where we lived, and he takes
me and pushes me under this little oak tree that
was there, and he says, they're watching us, and he
points up and I follow his finger up and not

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twenty feet over my head, I mean about twenty feet
is what I say. Like the little palm tree in
my backyard was a now I know, classic silver disk
hovering above us. There was like a mister a fog
around it, and there were colors everywhere. I say, like

(09:45):
an oakal. That's what it looked like to me, and
opals were really big in the seventies, so that's how
I had a reference of an opal. These like luminescent
lights all around, colorful, silent, silent, silent.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
Just silence.

Speaker 5 (10:00):
And I'm looking up and it starts fading before my eyes,
like I can see through it, and then it's gone,
and then it's there, and so it's solid again, and
then it fades and it's gone, and then it's there
and then it fades and it's gone. And that's all
I really remember, other than I never told anyone. I
just walked home, and that's what I made the report

(10:23):
to Earle. So I spent most of my life and
I didn't know what the word was. I didn't know
what a UFO was.

Speaker 3 (10:27):
I lived on a ranch. We didn't watch a lot
of TV. We were working on the ranch.

Speaker 5 (10:30):
We had cows, oranges, I mean, every kind of animal
you can think of.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
It was not on my radar. I didn't know what
it was. I didn't have the words to describe it.

Speaker 5 (10:41):
And then in high school I saw a documentary about
Betty and Barney Hill and I remember watching it and
thinking it's them, And that's what I thought when I
was looking up at the UFO.

Speaker 3 (10:50):
The other thing was I remember thinking, it's them. I
felt like I knew them. I felt like it was family.
It felt very like I have no memories, but I
know them, knew them.

Speaker 5 (11:01):
And then I remember watching the Betty and Barney Hill
documentary in high school and thinking.

Speaker 3 (11:06):
It's them, that's them, that's them, that's real. Like I
just knew that what she was saying was true.

Speaker 5 (11:11):
I'm not sure how, but I also still didn't really
talk about it that much.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
If friends were talking about EUFOI, go I.

Speaker 5 (11:17):
Saw one, and people would always go, oh cool, you know,
like no one.

Speaker 3 (11:21):
I don't think people.

Speaker 5 (11:24):
People think he saw like a little light in the sky,
Like I was twenty feet directly under a disc that
was about thirty feet big, roughly fading, and you know,
I look back on it, you know, and I think
about it as almost two sections now, like he's pointing.

Speaker 3 (11:39):
Up, I'm looking at it. Then there seems to be
something missing, and then I'm looking up at it and
it's fading, fading.

Speaker 5 (11:46):
God, you know, So I really don't know what happened.
I've never done hypnosis or hypnotherapy, so I read a
lot of books.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Obviously, I'm a member of the RT now. I really joined.

Speaker 5 (11:57):
Muffon mostly because I wanted to hear other people who
had seen what I had seen. I just wanted to
hear what regular people were saying. You know, it's cool
to be in the news and be a whistleblower and
be in the military and.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
All of that.

Speaker 5 (12:08):
That's cool for me. I am so interested in what
the average person like me, you know, your average B
plus student, you know, who has this kind of experience.
And I had it at an early age. I've never
not known this was real. And then you see things
on the news, and in my mind, I'm watching.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
This stuff going, oh, that's real, that's super real. I
know that's real. So I just have no question about
any of this. I know it's real. I don't you know,
I don't know what it is.

Speaker 5 (12:38):
And I have lots of other stories that I'll tell
through time, but that is basically what got me here.
I am not from a military family, although you know,
family was in the military during World War Two and
stuff like that. That was all normal, but just regular
ranchers and the East County San Diego, you know, lots
of military around, so you know, I was in that
kind of environment.

Speaker 3 (12:58):
But that's kind of what brought me here.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Wow.

Speaker 4 (13:01):
And you know we at some point we got to
go into that even more and then even ask a
number of questions because you know, like an investigator that
we had, I actually were thinking formulating questions that I
wanted to ask you.

Speaker 2 (13:13):
It was a lumins that it blinked in and out.

Speaker 4 (13:15):
So that would be a very cool way for us
to just go through how we do it. I think
we want to bring on Skywalker right now.

Speaker 3 (13:23):
Yeah, legend if you know a g r A.

Speaker 5 (13:28):
You know Bill Scott Watcher, Yo, he's a bus drivers.

Speaker 1 (13:35):
I'm so excited to have both of you part of
this and I want to welcome you.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
On behalf of KG are ready to do the broadcasting.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
And we all were friends with Earl and of course
Sev and I. This is just a great thing to
do with all of us going forward. You know you
were your connections with Earl directly southern California. You knew him,

(14:03):
you knew the kind of person he was, and we
know uh he you know, he had the saying that's
he always had the smile. But buckle up, buttercup.

Speaker 3 (14:16):
That's right.

Speaker 5 (14:17):
I know I was thinking of that when we recorded
the open.

Speaker 3 (14:20):
I was like, oh, maybe we should have said buck up,
butter Cup, because that's so earl. He would always say that.
And you know, he spoke really highly of you. He
really loved you, Bill, and.

Speaker 5 (14:32):
Even to me, you know, he was just a friend
of his, but he spoke really highly of you.

Speaker 3 (14:36):
And I know you guys have a special connection because
he spoke of.

Speaker 6 (14:39):
It to me.

Speaker 1 (14:40):
And you know that's the whole thing on the personal level,
all of us, we had to we spoke to him
before tragically we lost him so suddenly. But I am
so looking forward to having both of you on the
show bi weekly along with the other hosts of the
Other Move On up close with Alex TUIs and Rubert Uriarte.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
So this is it.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
Let's get this going. So welcome and looking forward to
working with both of you. And that's what I just wanted.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
To come up.

Speaker 1 (15:14):
Oh but wait, wait, wait wait, you brought up something
about this thing appearing then fading out. Do you think
by what now? What's your experience now looking back that
this is something that may be interdimensional or some type
of propulsion that allows them to shift it to our
reality and have that solid appearance and then it fades

(15:36):
because it's going in and out like whatever fluctuation is
going on.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
Yeah, I mean that's what I've heard. Now, I'm not
a scientist. I did not go to school for that
kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (15:46):
But after.

Speaker 5 (15:49):
Yeah, I mean, I do think there's something interdimensional or
And it's funny because it's like the words spiritual and
interdimensional are kind of interchangeable to me because we humans
used different words to describe things, but often we're describing
the same thing. And you know, I want to you know,
we've got lots of episodes, but like, you know, people
in the Bible are describing the same kind of things

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I saw, you know, and they've been going on for
not just since Roswell, They've been going on for thousands
of years. They're in religious texts, they're in South America,
they're all over the world. And the more I study
about this, the more I think and feel connected to
all of it. They've been here for so long. I
feel like we are the visitors.

Speaker 3 (16:31):
We think of them as the extraterrestrials. I feel like
we're we're the visitors.

Speaker 5 (16:35):
They've been here forever, and they're here now. They're here
right now they're everywhere. You know, when I heard about,
you know, study listening, I'm like, why.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
Are they listening to the stars. They're here, They're here now,
you know.

Speaker 4 (16:47):
You know, Billy brought up a very good point and
it goes to what you're saying. I recently heard that,
and this is my own thought about it. You know,
science and quantum mechanics and everything we're learning catching up
to the spiritualists and the other folks from the ancient times.
They knew exactly what they were doing. But it's a
frequency and a vibration thing. You know, if you turn

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up frequency and vibration, you're here and then you're not here.
So it's that whole idea about their ability to pop
in and pop out. It's more of a dimensional or
whatever you want to call it.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
What's that?

Speaker 4 (17:26):
Yeah, and so that's what you know, The most current
thought is this is their ability that It's like if
you go on in FM radio or multivam radio, how
do you get that one station and then you adjust that,
how do you get the other one?

Speaker 2 (17:38):
And how do you know?

Speaker 4 (17:39):
It's just the way that they do it. They were
able to tune their frequency in or out. Again, this
is what we understand through research is is a very
dense environment. This this a physical environment, and so there's
other higher environments or dimensions or whatever places plateaus and
it's just a matter of vibration.

Speaker 2 (17:59):
Remember oscillation wavelength, you know.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
And gamma rays you can't see, radio waves you can see.
So it's that extreme type of thought about it. So
I just interested. It's just cool about that. But we're
going to get into more of that stuff in future episodes,
which is way cool.

Speaker 2 (18:17):
So do we have somebody who we can congratulations and
let's get on with it. We have someone waiting in
the wings to join us.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
Yeah, very nice.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
Hey, Chris, Chris.

Speaker 7 (18:32):
Mister, I don't know about that, but welcome to the
kg r A family. I am so happy that you
guys are going to take on Earl's legacy. You know,
Earle was a wonderful man. I've had wonderful conversations with him.
I interviewed him several times on the radio, and I

(18:53):
can't just say enough about him that you know, he
really brought a wonderful things to people that needed help,
and he was always there and the most amazing thing
was he was never without a smile. I've never seen
him without.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
A smile, positive all the time.

Speaker 7 (19:13):
Absolutely, and to take on his legacy. It's a big
job you guys got. But I'm so happy that it's
you two that are doing it because it's important that
the word gets out that you know Earl started.

Speaker 4 (19:31):
Yeah, and you know we really are because you knew
him and you are part of moufan and you were
just at this symposium. But I'm glad that you are
here also to help us usher in this next Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 8 (19:47):
I know.

Speaker 7 (19:48):
I remember my first show that I did. I was
so nervous. I didn't I didn't know what I was
doing the first show. But after a while, you get
used to it, and you know, you got to go
great for do with Bill Skywatcher. I mean, he gave
you such great accolades. In the beginning, he told me,
if you can't cut the mustard, I'm going to fire you.
So I mean I was not opening with him. Hey,

(20:11):
you know this is the way it is. You're you're
in radio business now.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
So can we hire you for a segment?

Speaker 4 (20:19):
Yeah, I mean here's you are first reporter, and you're
going to report to us and our and our audience,
tell us about what happened at the twenty twenty five
move On Symposio.

Speaker 7 (20:31):
Well, you know, we first had the Field Investigators training
and it was fabulous because there was a lot of
people that wanted to get their first impression of move
On with the Field Investigators training because they eventually want
to become that. And we actually covered topics that have
never been covered before, like drones. We actually had a

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class on drones and it was done by Tim Marshall.
Fabulous thing. Of course, Bill Morris picked up about the
FAA and data research that can be done and that's
so important that you know that needs to be done.
And I taught a class on micro expressions, which is,
you know, if you want to interview somebody, you can

(21:15):
basically tell if they're lying, not lying, or embellishing the
story by their micro expressions. So that and then John
Lombardo taught a class on the basics. You know, it
was really a great class to get down and say, hey, listen,
here's how you started an investigation. And of course the
great Jim Kluge. I can't say enough about that guy.

(21:36):
He did a fabulous class on crop circles. You know,
he's so entertaining, not only does he bring, you know, education,
but he brings it with education and entertainment, and people
would laughing and having fun. And then you know what
we did with the previous thing. We had all kinds

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of different classes and all kinds of different lectures on
what's going on in the latest and euthology, and you know,
the banquet speaker was Thomas Jane. And those who don't
know Thomas Jane, he's a great actor. He played One
of my favorite movies was sixty one about the New

(22:19):
York Yankees and Mickey Manno and Roger Merris, and he
played Mickey Manno. I mean, I'm a New York boy,
so I mean I get kicked out of the state
if I'm not a Yankee fan. Bill will tell you
that Bill's a big Yankee fan.

Speaker 8 (22:34):
And you don't.

Speaker 7 (22:35):
You don't go around New York City and saying, hey,
I'm a Baltimore Orioles fan, You're definitely gonna find yourself sewer. So,
I mean, it was great to see him talking about
different things. And then you know, if you one thing
was there's so much variety about the symposium. So if

(22:57):
you wanted to learn about abductions, there was lectures on abductions.
There were lectures on classical UFO sightings, historical sightings, and
Bob Spearing and Greg Cisco man two of the Dynamic duos.
Greg Cisco did a class on stuff from Leonard Stringsfield

(23:17):
Diary called Fantastic. He did an amazing job on what
they called the Gabriel's Trumpet, was a secret weapon that
the government made to take down UFOs. So we were
in the past taking down UFOs with a weapon that
was developed called Gabriel's Trumpet. And then Bob, who uh,

(23:42):
you know, he's just one of the best ufologists and
people don't really know about him, but he is amazing,
did the medals that were sent to us from a
crash site and he did such a thorough job with that,
explaining everything about the Stringfield Diaries related to, you know,

(24:03):
crash retrievals, and then actually having a piece of metal
from a crash site and having it analyzed to show exactly,
you know, how the material was layered and what the
material was. So, I mean, you're talking about a piece
of metal that's lighter than arrow, was compositive aerogel which

(24:23):
is lighter than air, and plus other metals, and we
just don't have the technology to layer it the way
it is. So those are all the fantastic things that
the symposium brought to you. I mean, you had movies,
you have people from the NSA, the CIA that were
in the crowd, you know always, and it was one

(24:45):
of those things where everybody gets along. Everybody enjoys this
type of topic.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
So it was a.

Speaker 7 (24:52):
Fantastic time people listening to the show. If you've never
been to a symposium, you gotta go to one, because
there you we'll see the best of the best talking
about euthology.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
And it'll be in the same location next year.

Speaker 7 (25:06):
Correct, yes, yes, And and I got to tell you Coventon,
Kentucky is a fantastic city. Oh my god. It was like,
this is a great city.

Speaker 3 (25:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (25:17):
I mean, the weather beautiful at this time that time
of year. Uh, you sit outdoors. Everybody is so friendly.
You know, being in New Yorker, you don't get that.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
You know.

Speaker 7 (25:28):
We had a I got just a short story. Myself
and Johnny Lombardo from you know, the Buffalo area, both
raised in cities, and so a guy walks up to
us and goes, can I help you guys? And of
course you know in New York. That means, hey, you know,
we want you to leave or get out, and of
course what do you want. I just wanted to know

(25:50):
if you want to help. And we're like, oh, we're sorry,
we're just not using to something up and somebody up
and asking.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Wanted to help us.

Speaker 9 (26:00):
Yeah, yeah, sarcastic, right, yeah, So we had to profusely
apologize this poor guy who was like, I'm just trying
to help you guys, if you need to help, and
I go, oh, no, thank you very much, and they go, John,
we never get this in New York, so it was
it was a little different for us.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
I imagine that there was a lot of probably interesting
conversation in the halls, and especially at nighttime, because those
places you meet people that you would never see or
people who are really on the edge of what's going
on in terms of ufology and all the other and
you get a chance to ask them questions, you know,
you know, you get a chance to see what their

(26:41):
thought is and take pictures, which is a really incredible thing.

Speaker 7 (26:44):
So, well, you know what I'd like, you know what
I like, Richard CJ. You would get so much information
when you have a bottle of beer, you know exactly right,
you know, and then after the fourth bottle of beer,
you're really finding out what's going on and what people
really think.

Speaker 4 (27:01):
Oh yeah, but they open up. Last year when we
were at the symposium, Ryan Wood got on the doctor
Ryan Wood got on the elevator and we got off
and we just sat there for ten minutes talking about,
you know, the quantum mechanics and the things that he
was working on.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
But it's it's contact like that.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
At those kind of forums that you really actually, to me,
are of greater value, especially the ability to make contact
with people at form relationships.

Speaker 7 (27:30):
Sure, I had a great conversation with Debbie Jordan that
was there, who has had unbelievable experiences and has done
work tremendous work in the euthology field. And just to
sit with somebody like that and have, you know, be
able to free float questions like what did you think

(27:50):
of this? Or how do you think this? And there's
no time limit because you know you're sucking down a
bourbon or something like that, and you know you're just
having a good time and and you really get the
taste of what youuthology is all about, because now you're
hearing stories that you know, a lot of people have
never heard before because it's never come up. So I

(28:11):
think that's one of the best things about the symposium
is that these people give the lectures actually will hang
out with you and talk to you about different things
like that. They don't just give a lecture and see
you later kind of a thing. They actually will sit
with you and answer your questions off the record.

Speaker 4 (28:32):
And so that's the cool thing about what we're doing,
seeing Jay and I. This is because of what you
just said. The world of euthology, the world of technology,
the world is changing, the openness and the discoveries and
the things that we're seeing, the world of podcasts. People
are being able to go on through their own research
and then express it and share it with the world.

(28:54):
So that's where we're all now coming to. I think,
just a greater awareness. And so people like move on,
people like you, people like all the people related to
everything that we're doing in the field.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
This is our time, you know, it really is.

Speaker 7 (29:10):
Well, you know the exciting part about this, CJ and Richard,
there's no experts in the field. If anybody says you're
they're an expert in the field, then you got to
ask them a question, Okay, what are they doing here?

Speaker 2 (29:22):
No, I don't know.

Speaker 7 (29:23):
And so that's the amazing thing is that there is
no experts in the field. It's always a theory, a hypothesis,
you know. And but we're getting closer to the truth.
And that's the amazing part about it is that we
pick up a bread clumb and then another bread crumb
and another bread crumb, and soon we can start putting
things together. And you know, to me, I don't care

(29:48):
about the government. The President's never, in my opinion, my
humble opinion, the president is never going to come out
on the front lawn and say, you know, aliens are here,
they've been walking around. You know, they're not paying the taxes.
I think that will really get people upset, yeah, or
chair or whatever. And but I mean, the thing is

(30:10):
that majority of people believe in it. They might not
say it, but you know, if you had conversation with
people who really don't study and they go, yeah, I
believe there's UFOs. I believe there's you know, life on
other planets, you know, if they're walking among us. I'd
like to see some proof about that. But the majority
of people, it's not anything new, you know, they talk

(30:34):
about it at barbecues, they talking about weddings, they talking
about it all over you you followed you is a
big thing, and you guys, I got to tell you
you're going to bring some great information to the table
with this show, right yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Agree again, Thank you very much, Chris.

Speaker 4 (30:51):
Yeah, thank you for actually, you know, guiding both of
us in this new adventure and giving us the information
and leading us to Sky.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
I watch your Bill and this radio program.

Speaker 7 (31:03):
And all the credit goals to Bill Sky.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
We hope to have your report and on many times
and give us your insights.

Speaker 7 (31:10):
So yeah, I want to wish you guys the best
of this because it's such an important show.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
You know.

Speaker 7 (31:19):
I can't tell you how important it is that people
get your information, because if you don't put it out there,
people won't know what's really going on. And I thank
you both for taking this task because it's not an
easy to you know people. Let me tell you something
right now, those are listening to the show, doing radio

(31:40):
is not an easy thing, as both of these two
new guests, our hosts are going to know, and it
takes a lot of effort, a lot of work, and
I wish you all the best, and I know you
both are going to be a success and carry on
Earl's legacy.

Speaker 3 (31:55):
Thanks so much, Chris, thanks for being much.

Speaker 7 (31:58):
Take care of guys.

Speaker 2 (32:00):
Have a good one you too.

Speaker 4 (32:02):
All right, that is way cool, you know what, This
is such a good time since we've talked about it,
and we really want to go into, you know, just
our own personal part as to the person that we
really want to at least bring some special recognition for
getting us here and for being part of that, and
that's Earl Gray Anderson, who is a part of what

(32:23):
we did. So I just have a couple of little
slides and stuff and then maybe we can go into
just our just our.

Speaker 2 (32:33):
Other presentation.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
So the picture that you see up there, of course,
the good looking one is the alien and what is me?
But and I don't know this. I think this is Romulus.
That's what I've named. This is the one that's always
at the move On Symposium. This is the twenty twenty
four Moufon Symposium. And then that's me and Earle and

(32:55):
us on the stage. He on the stage, and how
Earl loved to stay. She was really a showman, if
you will, about and his passion really showed and so
I just wanted to take that and be a part
of what he allowed me to make it. I'm just
like you, CJ. I never even suspected that I would
be involved with something like this.

Speaker 2 (33:16):
And then in.

Speaker 4 (33:17):
This particular year twenty twenty four, I was blessed enough
with a number of other ert folks to be one
of the presenters of a group of cases of VRT
that they felt the public should be a part of.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
So I was very honored for that.

Speaker 4 (33:32):
This is an Earl at that conference, and this is
him introducing me and me giving me my presentation at
the end of the conference, which I was very blessed
to be a part of, and the people were very
receptive and very cool about what we were doing.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
Everybody who knows Earl he likes to eat.

Speaker 4 (33:53):
So we went to this barbecue place which is in Cappell, Texas,
and as you could it was a great outdoor place
and this is a they call it the heart a
Pit barbecue and so we were you go in there
and you were standing in line, and that was a
group of us that we went up there, and it

(34:14):
was really interesting to see so most of the people
who went with us, and you can see the picture
there on the right my side of the screen. That's
her of course, and uh that's Michelle and that's Wayne,
her husband. And did you see that plate in the middle.
He was sucking up that mac and cheese and those ribs.

(34:36):
I'm telling you that place in Texas book, you know
how could barbecue. And then we're honored at and you'll
see on the side there me and Wayne and Michelle
and Mike and Gino and Chantelle and then the girl
there is a Ken Arnold's granddaughter.

Speaker 2 (34:51):
And the book she wrote.

Speaker 4 (34:54):
She wrote a book and this is it right here,
and I got it there and this is just the
coming of the sausage that Ken Arnold wrote after he
had his sighting, which obviously created the current, the current
I'm sorry.

Speaker 3 (35:10):
The current praise or what do you call it?

Speaker 2 (35:13):
That mythology, right, And so I was honored to be
a part of that.

Speaker 4 (35:17):
And then this is the last time that I remember
even actually.

Speaker 2 (35:21):
Being part of anything.

Speaker 4 (35:22):
This is in January, and we were blessed to have
our Southern California Move On meeting and we met in
person and you can see here there zero and yeah,
this is the Valley West Valley Music Center cool time
mineral again the shirt there from the jack Rabbit case,

(35:45):
which hopefully one day we'll talk about real soon. And
then Dustin Elkinson, who from the Utah State Director and
also presented that this year's symposium, was the guest speaker.
He did a great job. And I just wanted to
make no because I want to give Earl no matter
where he's at a hard time. He's in two pictures
because Earl liked to be on the stage and share

(36:07):
all his stuffs. But he really cool, he was really gracious.
And then again I just want to make sure we
had to go eat, so we went out. He loves
to go to El Toedo there in Woodland, and so
we went to the eld Toedo there and we had
a really good meal and the.

Speaker 5 (36:22):
Flight of tacos and a flight of the Margarita's right.

Speaker 2 (36:26):
So that was all of my and we had so
much fun.

Speaker 5 (36:32):
Always the meetings at El Toedo, talking with everyone, you know, right,
you know, from Bob Solace to you know, Dustin and
who else, Dan Hurrariri and you know, just over the years, everybody,
Stephen Bassett, all the great guys, the high necks were there.

(36:52):
It was always such a great place to get together
and talk and and you know, just you know, I
remember saying, yeah, and we're gonna get to our new
state director. Gino here is here to visit us, and
you can pop them in if you want.

Speaker 3 (37:10):
Bill, Hey, Gina, Hey, how are you.

Speaker 2 (37:14):
How's it going.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
We're just starting our little tribute to Earl. And obviously
we showed those pictures, but you know, we're all just
blessed enough to be a part of it. And by
the way, we did our best work in communication at
El Toedo or at the Barbo two place. So Gino
tell us what's up for Gino and the Southern California
move on and just move on in general.

Speaker 10 (37:38):
Well, you know, with the loss of Earl, that's kind
of put us back quite a bit. Everybody, the entire
team was not anything that was expected by any means.
So I I was elected to step in. I know
that in the past that was something Earl wanted. Eventually

(38:00):
he told me many times he did. Neither of us
had planned on this happening for years. So I stepped
in and trying to catch up and get things back
in orders best we can, and we had to shift
things around. I was the Cheap investigator for still in California.

(38:20):
Now that I've been bumped up to state director, we
decided that CJ was the best choice for New Cheap
And she's doing a great job.

Speaker 8 (38:30):
She's helping a lot. I really appreciate you taking that on.

Speaker 3 (38:34):
Thank you. Yeah, it's an honor.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
I mean, like please, like you were so amazing. And
if we went to any of our in Purtison in
person meetings, you know, Gina always starts the meeting up.
He would give us the report, give us some cool statistics,
and you know, I know Earle was just grooming all
of us because I know he just wanted this to continue.
I mean obviously, you know, like it just felt devastating

(38:58):
really like I was like how when this first happened
and Earl passed away, It's like just wondering, how.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
Could this even go on? I didn't even know where
my place.

Speaker 5 (39:05):
In the UFO community was anymore, you know, because Earl
was such a connection, always introducing me to people. And
but the one thing we knew is that he would
want us to go on. That's the one thing you
know that we do know is that he wants us
to continue this for him and to continue the work
that he started, and like, I you know, I mean,
you're the perfect person.

Speaker 3 (39:22):
There's nobody else he would want running, So call move On, Ode.

Speaker 8 (39:26):
I'll take your work for that.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
It's true, you know it's true.

Speaker 8 (39:31):
But yeah, it is.

Speaker 10 (39:32):
It's hard because, yeah, Earl was the lynchpin for everything.
He was my connection to a lot of stuff. We've
been budes for years since is my very first joined
move On. And almost every day I catch myself I
wanted to text him or call him and ask him questions.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
Yeah, it's hard.

Speaker 5 (39:54):
Yeah, he spoke to so many people all day long,
Like how did he do that? He spoke to so
many people.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
I'm sorry, go ahead, you know.

Speaker 10 (40:04):
I raised to say, you know, before he was the
state director, he like he was the chief and he
loved being chief investigator and he didn't want to be
state director and it kind of fell on him and
he said investigator was the best thing. And I agree,
and I kind of miss it already State directors.

Speaker 3 (40:28):
It's great, you.

Speaker 8 (40:31):
Know, it was.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Phil. It's funny about with Earl.

Speaker 4 (40:37):
I just remember Earl was the Southern California mouf on
because for a long time it probably was just him.
Linda Fletcher and those other earlier people who really who
created and solidified the work that's done in southern California.
But his passion, he and he tried to do all

(40:57):
that he could, and he kept taking on more cases
and only given and even when he was a state director.
This is what he used to tell me too. He said,
I can't do it anymore. I have to do it
through others. I got to let it go and trust
my people, you know, a guide as much as I can.
But he was always encouraging his passion for the subject

(41:18):
and passion for the people or I guess.

Speaker 2 (41:20):
What joined us all.

Speaker 4 (41:22):
And you know you and him had a special bond too,
just as musicians and things that you have in terms
of life. So I'm really happy that you came to
help this part of what we were trying to do
for Earle and what he's created here and hopefully what
we will be able to do in the future with
this program. So thank you very much.

Speaker 10 (41:42):
You know, of course, well you do my best, but
you're all part of the team as well, And something
I think for your viewers and your listeners that they
should probably be aware of it. And I think people get
this confused a lot. Is that so got more move
move On functions as a chat as we relate to
the public.

Speaker 8 (42:03):
But really it's in California. MoveOn is a region of
investigation for Moufon.

Speaker 10 (42:08):
When they come to the meetings, the meetings are being
run by our field investigators and by our state investigation team,
myself a sheep investigator, and so on down the line.
Most other meetings that you go to are actually local
member chapters and they're run by local members and not

(42:29):
necessarily field investigators or directly through MoveOn.

Speaker 8 (42:33):
We kind of ride the fence on that one.

Speaker 10 (42:36):
So, like I said, as public meetings go and how
we deal with the public function as a chapter.

Speaker 8 (42:43):
But really when people talk to.

Speaker 10 (42:45):
Us, I don't think they realize that they're actually talking
to the investigation team for the entire region, for our
whole area.

Speaker 3 (42:51):
That's true.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
The room was always full of full of field investigators,
state section directors, you know, our state director, you Linda,
everybody was there, So it was I mean, you know,
there's people that live too far that couldn't make it.

Speaker 3 (43:05):
It's a long drive.

Speaker 5 (43:06):
I mean it's a big place, you know, it's a
huge region, and we do get we're at the top
of the list.

Speaker 3 (43:13):
Us in Florida are always.

Speaker 5 (43:14):
Neck and neck on reports, neck and neck on everything
from ert to regular cases.

Speaker 3 (43:20):
So it's a very busy and active region.

Speaker 10 (43:23):
Yeah, we get some of the most sightings in the
entire country. Like Florida gets quite a few, We're usually
right at the top. I think, gosh, just this last
month June alone in California, we had thirty three sightings
just in June. And that's only thirty three sightings we
put it directly to move on, not across the board.

Speaker 8 (43:45):
That's quite a huge chunk.

Speaker 10 (43:46):
Regardless, Texas was right behind us. They had twenty two
in June. Florida only had twelve.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
Last we flow, what's up Florida.

Speaker 8 (43:56):
So but yeah, California gets the most sightings.

Speaker 10 (43:59):
And you know, when I first joined, I thought that
was interesting because in my mind I always thought, well,
will you thinking Nevada, Yeah, you know, military bases, you
have area fifty one and so on. But actually, yes,
southern California, Northern California it is quite few as well.
But Southern California dons give them most a lot of

(44:20):
the same reasons. We have a very large area, a
lot of empty area, a lot of military bases and
military action, and we're half desert, half mountains.

Speaker 8 (44:32):
We've got we've got the terrain for all of it.
I think we get a lot of action, lots of water,
and a lot of well.

Speaker 10 (44:39):
The trench that, yeah, exactly, it was Tiktak futage was taken.

Speaker 8 (44:44):
That's just off southern California, not too far. But yeah,
So we're always looking for more members, regular members. You
don't have to be investigated to be a member.

Speaker 10 (44:54):
The more people that are members and they have subscriptions,
that keeps move on going. It helps us keep them
meetings going. The symposium you guys were talking about that,
it helps with that.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
And you don't have to be a member to come
to one of our meetings. You're all, well, everyone's welcome
to come to a meeting.

Speaker 8 (45:10):
Absolutely speaking.

Speaker 10 (45:11):
The meetings, we haven't had them in a little while
because of the big change. Losing Earl kind of threw
things off there. We had been shifting to going every
other month. Late last year we started doing that schedule
in stead doing monthly because the same reason we're all investigators,
we're all doing stuff. It takes up a lot of time.

(45:33):
So we were trying to shift to going every other month,
and we started strong this year, but unfortunately that got
off the track, and so we're trying really hard to.

Speaker 8 (45:41):
Get that back on track.

Speaker 10 (45:43):
I was really open to have meetings going again in person,
at least for next month. We're still having a little
trouble nailing down a new location. Early was our connection
for the location we.

Speaker 8 (45:55):
Had before, but even early we'd all agree it was
a bit of a drive. It was all all the
way on the other side there.

Speaker 3 (46:01):
Yeah, for everybody.

Speaker 10 (46:03):
It's a little more sensual for everybody, to make it
a little bit easier to get tom.

Speaker 8 (46:08):
In the meantime, we haven't done in the past very.

Speaker 10 (46:10):
Much, but I think we're going to try to start
doing more online meetings as well. They won't be regular
monthly meetings per se, but we will do them on
a schedule of some sort and make them more infrequently,
so the more of a special thing for some of
our friends in.

Speaker 3 (46:23):
Other states and other countries too.

Speaker 10 (46:27):
But we will keep in personal meetings a little more eventful,
big bigger name guests, in person events to make them special,
you know, so people can say, hell, I was at
this meeting and I got to be there for that
I've always been a strong believer that that that adds
a lot to the community and it kind of makes
it special if you want to make.

Speaker 4 (46:45):
The bring in guest speakers that actually, especially especially people
who live in our area who are well known and
you know the field, that's an incredible thing.

Speaker 2 (46:54):
That's a good way for USh interact on a personal level.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Exactly.

Speaker 5 (46:58):
Everybody comes through Lost Angelas, right, they come here to
film ancient aliens.

Speaker 3 (47:02):
They come here for you know, so.

Speaker 5 (47:04):
A lot of people who don't even live here end
up in Los Angeles and that's what we pop out. Yeah,
come on, come.

Speaker 3 (47:12):
On out to our meeting and speak on Sunday before
they fly home.

Speaker 4 (47:16):
All right, gin know, it's really good to have you,
and hopefully we'll be able to have you again on
just to give an update report on move On in
Southern California and maybe move On overall, and just in
terms of you know, numbers and things that are going out,
because they're one of one, if not the largest, you know,
collection agencies in the United States and in the world.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
So it's very important, very intricral to our knowledge and
growing base in the subject. So thank you very much.

Speaker 5 (47:44):
You can find our website, so calmofon dot com. You'll
be able to see all our investigators have bios, photos,
we write articles, and all.

Speaker 3 (47:53):
The information will be there. And we're on social media.

Speaker 5 (47:56):
You can find our Facebook page, our Instagram and you know,
just follows so that you'll know when we our next
meeting starts to happen, you know, in the fall.

Speaker 8 (48:04):
And don't forget.

Speaker 10 (48:05):
Do you have a setting that you want to report,
You can go to our website to some California mooveon
dot com and there's a link there that will take
you to the main move on website.

Speaker 8 (48:14):
Where you can submit a report.

Speaker 5 (48:16):
For a setting order right there, and you got those
big red buttons to make your report.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Easy to report too. Mm hmm, very cool.

Speaker 3 (48:26):
Thanks Phil, thanks for popping that up.

Speaker 4 (48:28):
Bill, Thank you very much, Gino, thank you. Thanks all right,
very nice. That was a very nice way of bringing
that in and so everybody.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Can see it.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
So we're going to move on now to just some
presentations that we got yeah out the earl and also
just about the show in general. So yeah, yeah, we
go ahead.

Speaker 3 (48:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (48:54):
We we spoke to a lot of people and let
him know that we were going to be carrying on
Earl's legacy with this podcast, and we've got some really
nice little video messages from people wishing us well talking
about Earl, and we just thought it would be so
cool to play them now.

Speaker 3 (49:09):
So I'll just go ahead and let Bill go ahead and.

Speaker 5 (49:12):
Play some of those greetings and well wishes from people
who also loved Earl, and that Earl also loved that.

Speaker 11 (49:21):
Hey, CJ and Richard Universal Disclosure podcast here, and we
wanted to wish you congratulations and best of luck on
your new journey together. Mike of course, and my co
host and friend, Reverend Stu. Reverend Stuke, can you give
just the elevator pitches to what we do here?

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Yeah, Mike, we explore disclosure from both the nuts and
bolts perspective and the esoteric spiritual laya.

Speaker 2 (49:44):
We've got the whole thing COVID here.

Speaker 11 (49:46):
Wild conversations with super intelligent people. Anyways, we've grown a
lot doing this together, and I'm sure both of you
guys will do the same. It's a wild ride and
hope that you enjoy it all.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Much love to you.

Speaker 2 (50:02):
Hi.

Speaker 12 (50:02):
I'm Rusty Hester, the Assistant State director for Florida mofon
on behalf of my field investigators and I we would
like to congratulate you and Richard on your new endeavors
for Contact Radio podcast. I know that this is bittersweet
for both of you, but I know that Earle is
looking down at both of you now and he's smiling
at you, and this is what he would have wanted. CJ.

(50:26):
I know that you said that I inspired you to
join mofon as a field investigator. Now you're inspiring me.
God speed to both of you. Do good things. Love
you both.

Speaker 2 (50:40):
Hey, CJ, how are you.

Speaker 6 (50:41):
This is Mike Furino, and I just wanted to say
congratulations on taking over for the great Earl Bray on
the KGRA Mofon program. I think Earl would be delighted
to know that it's your boys that will continue his
As you know, Earl and I were very close and
he was a great supporter of my He called my
book for All we Know UFO Literature, which I thought

(51:04):
was perfect. But anyway, congratulations and I'm looking forward to
hearing more.

Speaker 8 (51:09):
Thanks by.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Hi, CJ. N Richard.

Speaker 13 (51:14):
This is Yvonne Smith, director of Close encountery Source Organization Zero.
I just want to send my congratulations to both of
you for hosting the movefone Contact radio show, and I
know that Earl is very proud of you both, and
he's looking down on you every day.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
CJ.

Speaker 13 (51:37):
I'm so happy and proud that you become a member
of zero and we are all so happy to have
you with us. See you soon and have a blessed
rest of the day.

Speaker 14 (51:53):
Hey, my name is James Benjamin Pike. I'm a UFO
experiencer and just wanted to wish CJ an awesome radio program.
I know that she's gonna absolutely thrive and whatever she does,
and she's one of the smartest people I know, as
well as most creative, so I'm super excited to see

(52:15):
that she's doing this radio show. I think it's really important,
especially now that Earl gray Anderson has passed away. CJ
is the absolute perfect person to take the torch. A
little bit about myself. I was actually one of Earl's cases.
I called up and he emailed me and we talked
on the phone for two and a half hours about

(52:36):
a close encounter that I had in two thousand and six,
as well as other encounters after that that have happened
to me.

Speaker 10 (52:44):
So, you know, if it wasn't for Earl.

Speaker 14 (52:46):
I don't think I would have ever come forward, And
because of him, I'm making alien art, UFO art. I'm
working on my memoir called UFO Surfer Diaries, and just
trying to wake people up to the fact that we're
not children and there's just so much going on out

(53:06):
there in the universe, and experiencers are are sort of
the seeds and the signals to get this information out
to the general public, to kind of challenge the perception
of reality, just like the UFO ships themselves break the
boundaries of physics. So I want you to know how
much I love everybody in the UFO community, and I'm

(53:28):
so happy to be a part of anything that CJ's doing,
and especially move On, which is an amazing organization that
has helped me out tremendously.

Speaker 8 (53:38):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 5 (53:42):
Those are so lovely to see everybody. Yeah, James's case.

Speaker 2 (53:47):
This is amazing, incredible.

Speaker 4 (53:49):
Yeah, And the things that they were sharing and just
a way that you know they're expressing not only about
Earle and all the work that we're done.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
It's just you talk about being blessed. I mean, thank you,
Earl for.

Speaker 4 (54:05):
I'll be honest with you, and this is how I
feel you and I would not be here if it
wasn't for Earl.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Oh, for sure, I would not be here.

Speaker 4 (54:13):
I can tell you not only the show, but even
before the show, when we decided to either be a
part of MOUF on join it and eventually become investigators
in the RT folks, and all his guidance that we have.
So I just want to say thank you, Torold, But
you know, I also want to say thank you to
your Old's family. You know, they shared Earl, and I'm

(54:36):
sure Earle probably stretched out a lot with all of
his commitment. He was always willing to listen and be there,
and you know he probably short it a lot of
times his family time. And I just want to say
thank you to his wife Lisa, and to his daughters
and his children and children and yes, his son and everybody.

(54:57):
And I just want to say thank you for sharing
him and his passion and by the way, and his
music with us. And you know he is out there
in Cyberland, so you can look him up and look
up his music. But you know what, he's always going
to have a special part to me and what he's
done for me and hopefully what he'll he's doing for

(55:18):
this show and so hopefully for you too.

Speaker 5 (55:19):
Cj oh Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean I just hundred percent,
I seriously would not be here if it was not
for Earl.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
Great and I love his wife, Lisa, who.

Speaker 5 (55:29):
Was often at the meetings, often at Alta Rito's, and
definitely shared her husband with all of us, and you know,
missus him terribly. If you can imagine, you know, what
your life would be like going on without Earl. And
we would love to have Lisa on this podcast as
well in the future, and we for sure will. She's
just a wonderful, wonderful person and nobody knew Earl better

(55:49):
than Lisa.

Speaker 2 (55:51):
I think that would be great, Yeah, really be great. Sure.

Speaker 4 (55:54):
So I think, you know, the first segment of our
first show is over, and so I think we're going
to go to a break and then we'll probably be
back pretty soon.

Speaker 2 (56:04):
I hope we're going.

Speaker 3 (56:05):
We're back.

Speaker 4 (56:06):
Hi, welcome segment Yeah, segment two. We made it to
the second part. You know, if I wasn't here, you
know what that.

Speaker 3 (56:14):
Meant, Lisa would be filing a report. You're Lisa a report, absolutely.

Speaker 4 (56:23):
You know it's it's it's interesting, and so now you
know we're going to go into our new journey here
and where we want to take the show. We hope
and and uh make her all proud and and and
evolve the show to what we think people will appreciate.

(56:43):
We'll get a lot of education out, so that's her right.
So one of the things that we wanted to make sure,
because you know, CJ and I were trying to figure
out what we're going to do, what's going to be
our theme.

Speaker 2 (56:56):
You know, how are we going to.

Speaker 4 (56:57):
Take it to the next level, because you know, we
don't want to redo what Earl because he did great things,
but we're children of Earl, and we wanted to take
what we are our parents, if you will, in this
particular case Earl. We wanted to take it to the
next level. So one of the things that we came

(57:17):
up with, and c J and I were talking about
this was this idea about what where are we now?
Remember this movie and if you all said, a great movie,
if you haven't seen it, it's a roommake of a
fifties movie, The Day of the Earth st that's still
and about UFOs and landing on the lawn of the
White House.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
This is the Keanu Reeves version. But one of the
one of.

Speaker 4 (57:38):
The key points of the movie is this time when
John Cleese's character and Keanu Reeves were in with Jennifer
Connelly in the house.

Speaker 2 (57:49):
They were all he Kenna was trying to.

Speaker 15 (57:50):
Get back to the stadium and to start the Metatron
to destroy the Earth, and John Cleachy was a professor
in the part him and uh Keanu read a chalkboard
writing up equations and they were talking about, you know, hey,
do we have any hope for our you know, our world,
our civilization and of course kind of saying no, you

(58:12):
guys have screwed everything up.

Speaker 4 (58:13):
You're burning everything down, and there's no hope. The planet
needs to have, you know, fresh whatever. And then they
asked this whole question and there's a quote there and
I thought it was a quote.

Speaker 2 (58:23):
Good quote. He says, well, and he.

Speaker 4 (58:25):
Was a professor, Well there, that's where we are, and says,
you say, we're on the brink of destruction, which is
what Keana was saying, And you're right, and they were.
And he says, but it's the only one a person
or a people or on the brink will they be
able to change? Right, That's what really causes our change
when we move, change when we move our cheese, if

(58:46):
you will, And it says only at the precipice do
we evolve, and that is our moment.

Speaker 2 (58:54):
Don't take it from us.

Speaker 4 (58:55):
And of course, as we know the movie Change, you know,
you know, hope and that that willingness to evolve and
become aware is what inspired me and I believe CJ
two you know, want to name the show that and
so what does that mean to us? So we you know,

(59:17):
we were thinking and we wanted to make sure that
we expressed this on the precipice, this Move on Contact
Radio program. We want to be able to talk about
discovery and disclosure and evolvement and all those There is
discovery of things that are happening, disclosure in the world

(59:38):
of euthology, and the involvement.

Speaker 2 (59:40):
Of who we are as a people.

Speaker 4 (59:41):
Because to be honest with you and I think this
is what the next level of this program.

Speaker 2 (59:46):
We are on the CUSP.

Speaker 4 (59:48):
You can see it all around the world, economics, world politics, war,
how about technology, you know, revolutionary ideas transportation, going to
the moon, going to Mars, going to wherever, and none
only that evolving our own awareness. Awareness is you know,

(01:00:09):
our consciousness and who we are as a people and
what we're going to try to create or expand ourselves,
and that it's all an adventure of discovery. And so
that's what we want this show to be, and we
want people to learn who they are or maybe to
just contemplate understand who they are and then where we're
all going. And so that's the concept of on the Precipice,

(01:00:35):
this new next level of this radio program.

Speaker 2 (01:00:39):
Yeah, Contact Radio, Yeah, Cee, you do anything they want
to add to that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:43):
Yeah, no, I.

Speaker 5 (01:00:44):
Mean exactly, you said it so well, but yeah, I
mean we are on the precipice.

Speaker 3 (01:00:48):
Everything is changing, everything is evolving.

Speaker 5 (01:00:50):
Do you know how many people ten years ago would
have told you I, ten years ago, I would have
never believed it a UFO, an alien, any of this stuff.
And it's just there's so much information out there that
it's you know, difficult to still live in the denial
of what's happening around us. And so we are on
the precipice. Things are shifting, things are changing. I won't call,

(01:01:15):
you know, UFOs a religion, but it does have that
sort of aspect to it, you know, you believe it
takes for a lot of people, like I'm always amazed
by people, you know, like Stephen Bassett.

Speaker 3 (01:01:25):
You know, the first thing I asked him was like,
well what did you see? And He's like, God, I've
never seen a UFO.

Speaker 5 (01:01:30):
And so for to have people that have never seen
a UFO working so hard for disclosure, for them to
be able to believe, be on the shadow of a
doubt without you know, something appearing before them like I
got to see, you know, and I'm lucky I got
to see that because I got to be honest, I
would be one of those people. Had I not seen

(01:01:50):
what I saw as a child saying this is beloney,
what are you talking about? No one can get a photo.
You know, you hear all the stuff those people say.
Many of my friends too, how come we can't get
a phone a wet bit, well, you know all this stuff.
So for some reason I saw it. For some reason,
I saw it, and I just know beyond the shadow
of doubt that it's real. They're real, and they're here,

(01:02:12):
and they're here now and they've been here, and so.

Speaker 3 (01:02:15):
I agree, I think you said it beautifully.

Speaker 5 (01:02:17):
But we just really want to continue to evolve the
show that Earl and sub started and bring on new
guests and talk about and also I would personally really
love we made a little email address. I would love
to hear from those of you who are listening to us.
We just made a Gmail account CJ and Richard at
gmail dot com.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
C J.

Speaker 3 (01:02:38):
A N D R I C A J R. D
at gmail dot com. Super easy.

Speaker 5 (01:02:42):
If you have a story or a question, anything you
want to tell us, I would love to hear from
the people that are listening to us right now. What's
on your mind, what are the guests you're interested in,
what are the topics you're interested in?

Speaker 3 (01:02:54):
Where is the phenomenon leading you.

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
Right so, and you know us to even expand on
that whole idea. We're going to touch these subjects and
some of them they're very controversial. Some of them, you know,
their their their cutting edge, some of them are old.
Some of them, you know, are are things that we
even thought of, and we're going.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
To talk about that and a little bit.

Speaker 4 (01:03:18):
The other thing that I think it's going to be
really cool is we're going to try to just offer
a perspective where we're at. So I think one of
the things that we we'd like to do too to
add is you know, we may suggest or offer it
like a for instance, a movie or documentary that we
think speaks of the subject, or for instance a book

(01:03:42):
I talked I talked about an earlier book, but I
just want to show you another one that for me
this this episode. Uh, there's a there's a great book
by Whitley Strieber. Obviously everybody knows him from Communion and
a number of other things, but he wrote some recent
books and one of the ones that I wanted to
make sure and share, b canit you just put that

(01:04:04):
screen downstry second, only because I want to be able
to make sure that they get it is is this
book that he called them and the reason why that's
an incredible book. And it even says here he wrote
this to give us those who are trying to learn
about this subject, to give us an insight to them.

(01:04:27):
This is a copulation of all the people who responded
to his book Communion and actually shared, just like they
do with the new phone, their experiences, their sightings, their abductions.
And of course everybody knows that Whitley has his own
experience and it's very involved and he still has it today.
But he wrote this book because he was able to

(01:04:49):
extrapulate information and data that was consistent across the board
for those people who responded in letters that he and
his wife cataloged and extract relate what he believes they
are saying to us. They are sharing with us their thoughts.
And he wrote this very good book called Them, and

(01:05:10):
I encourage you to for those of you are interested
to get it read it. And again, just what we're
trying to do is to just expand the information about
this phenomena and and maybe just bring another insight from
this perspective, because his perspective is very very much a

(01:05:30):
unique perspective.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
So this is one of the things that we would
like to do on this show.

Speaker 4 (01:05:37):
And we're going to hopefully, you know, share our own
personal beliefs, in personal opinions about books that we're reading.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
We both currently read. Both of us read. We're avid readers.

Speaker 10 (01:05:50):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:05:51):
The subject matter life is all about reading, studying, watching, interacting,
investigating with students. The subject hudents and we're students of
life and it's important that we share those things.

Speaker 2 (01:06:07):
So go ahead.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
People will talk. I don't really just say, I mean
you're touching on it.

Speaker 5 (01:06:11):
People would talk about Earl Gray Anderson's encyclopedic knowledge of
cases of you know, sightings, and the only way you
get that is my reading.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
He was a voracious reader, and I am the same.

Speaker 5 (01:06:26):
I'm like, I'm literally reading too right and they're not
even new, you know. I'm reading Preston Dennett's Onboard Encounters
right now, and I'm you know, also reading Trinity. But
I'm constantly reading books constantly, and every book you see something,
whether you're an experiencer yourself or contact d whatever word

(01:06:47):
you like to use, you're going to see things in
the I think it's so important, at least for me
to educate myself because I see things that have happened
to me and I that I would never have related
to the phenomenon. You know, we tend to compartmentalize things
in our lives, things you've seen and happened, and I
know I did that.

Speaker 3 (01:07:07):
Well, there was that thing that happened in that and.

Speaker 5 (01:07:10):
Being able to read these books really helped you to
bring it all together and to see how these things
are connected.

Speaker 3 (01:07:16):
And a lot of things just simply they're connected.

Speaker 5 (01:07:19):
They're connected, and many of us are out there alone experience.

Speaker 3 (01:07:23):
You know, for most of my life.

Speaker 5 (01:07:24):
I was alone out there with my experiences, not sharing
them with everyone.

Speaker 3 (01:07:28):
And I really want if.

Speaker 5 (01:07:29):
You're out there you haven't shared your experiences, you feel.

Speaker 3 (01:07:32):
Like you're alone. You're not alone.

Speaker 5 (01:07:34):
We're all here and there's so many of us who
have had these kind of experiences.

Speaker 3 (01:07:37):
Too, So you know, educate yourself. Read these books.

Speaker 5 (01:07:41):
You're going to find connections inside these books too, and
it's going to shed a light on your own experiences
and the things you've seen as well. And I just
think it's so important. You know, that's how Earl got
that kind of knowledge. There was only one way he
got it, and that was reading.

Speaker 3 (01:07:55):
A lot of books, a lot of books.

Speaker 4 (01:07:59):
And again you expand yourself and the subject.

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
You know.

Speaker 4 (01:08:04):
Chris the Permol said earlier that nobody is an expert.
We're all part of what's going on. We're all learning.
I mean, there's people who are experts in obviously science
and studies and research, and I give them that and
they've done a lot of good work. But everybody is
an investigator here. Everybody is an experiencer or everybody can

(01:08:26):
be an experience or learn. And again, like you said,
these books, the ones who raise Trinity, a very good
book and them. Again, what we want to try to
do with the people in the audience is just to
give some thoughts about these and tell them that this
can open up a world for them and maybe they

(01:08:46):
can find somebody or a story that they identify with,
you know. And so I'm really glad that.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
It's funny it's called them.

Speaker 5 (01:08:55):
The minute you picked it up, I was like, that's
what I thought when I saw them, you know, it's
and that's.

Speaker 4 (01:09:01):
What people are going to do when they pick up
all these books that we just raised for people in
terms of they're going to identify and they're going to
show what this cruly is, this phenomenon and how it's evolving.
So all right, so I just want to make sure
that we finished the idea where we were the precipice.

(01:09:21):
You'll see there. This is where we hope to go
path forward and our sojourn, if you will. You know,
in this we're going to have guests. Obviously, we're also
going to talk about a number of things related to
not only Moufon but euthology.

Speaker 2 (01:09:40):
There's many, many.

Speaker 4 (01:09:41):
Different other sources out there, a lot of stuff on
the web, a lot of podcasts, and Chris, and I
think CJ said it too. The way knowledge and discovery
is going to come through this subject is not through
any government agency.

Speaker 2 (01:09:58):
It's not going to be about that.

Speaker 4 (01:10:00):
It's going to be the people, the people on the ground,
the people who are everyday folks who you know, have
to work and live and struggle with that, but who
are curious and who have had the experiences and wonder
about expanding their awareness. So we're going to hopefully bring
a bunch of information, and then of course we're going
to touch on a number of other areas. You know,

(01:10:22):
from science, a lot of stuff going on in science,
you know, quantum mechanics and stuff technology, and I'm going
to bring up something here just a second, because I
thought it was pretty cool. But there's so many things
going on in technology, and then you know, this whole
other area and it's one of those very difficult areas
to touch.

Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
Just like we were.

Speaker 4 (01:10:42):
Talking about how the crafts move in and out of
blink in and out, Where do they go, do they
phase in, do they you know, vibrate or frequency out?
And this area of consciousness and what that means in
terms of our potentials of the future are going to
be another subject matter that we we talk about. And
then there's many other explorations and adventures of discovery that

(01:11:05):
we're going to try to bring to you and the
audience and just some of the things that we know
and learn. And then hopefully I can't underscore this the
audience and the people out there who are listening to this,
they need to be a part of the show. So
write in, send us ideas, send us suggestions that'll give

(01:11:27):
us the ability to know what you want to hear
what you like, and that hopefully will.

Speaker 2 (01:11:31):
Take this show to that particular level.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
So yep, agreed, agreed.

Speaker 5 (01:11:35):
And you know Earl's number one mission was to help
people to help experiencers and that's.

Speaker 3 (01:11:41):
What I know I want to do and everything in
my life.

Speaker 5 (01:11:44):
So you know, we're not a support group per se,
but if you do need one, we can help you
find one. Like if you're an experiencer out there and
your alone, reach out again, the email address meate up
is just CJ and Richard at gmail dot com. Didn't
be easier, but we want to hear from you. We
want to hear from you, and we want to be
able to help you. And Earl has introduced me to

(01:12:07):
just so many people over the years, and I really
love going to the Serro support group. You saw Yvonne
talking about it. It's local in southern California.

Speaker 3 (01:12:16):
They meet in.

Speaker 5 (01:12:17):
Person periodically and they also meet online. And I can't
tell you. I mean the first time I went to
a move On meeting and I was in a room,
I had never been in a room where people believed
in UFOs, like, I wanted to cry.

Speaker 3 (01:12:33):
I was sitting there. I wasn't crying, but I was
like having so.

Speaker 5 (01:12:35):
Many emotions and feelings because most of us in our
regular life, you're never in a room with a bunch
of people that believe in UFOs or know they're real.

Speaker 3 (01:12:43):
It's not even a belief like they're real.

Speaker 5 (01:12:45):
It's just, you know, it's hard to find the right words,
but to be there and to surround yourself with a
community of people who know the truth.

Speaker 3 (01:12:54):
And are there to help you and be supportive. And
you know, I would like to continue that with the
podcast and everything we're doing going forward as well.

Speaker 2 (01:13:01):
Right right, Yes, extremely important. All right, So.

Speaker 4 (01:13:09):
We've just finished talking about hopefully what our idea about
the precipice. Believe me, I think it's a really cool
phrase on the precipice, on the cusp of adventure, on
the cusp for this program, and on the way that
we can just evolve our own self. And I'm excited
to the fact that we've been able to take this adventure.

(01:13:32):
So what we're going to do now, So besides the
books and other things, there's we're going to periodically come
up with movies and documentaries that we feel like you
could look at and maybe help the experience that you're sharing.
So Bill, can you bring up that next slide there
one of the ones I and I'm I would like

(01:13:53):
it only because I think it's a very cool movie.
This is a movie documentary that was released in twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (01:14:00):
To Corey Carroll, I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:14:07):
The reason why I got that backwards is sometimes my brain.
You know, Caroline, Corey produced in this movie, and it's
a very good documentary, and it is a documentary, and
it's a documentary that I think for people who are
involved with the subject and who would like to get

(01:14:28):
more information. It's a group of people that everybody knows.
And I just like to read that summary that you
see there. The summary of the show is Military Experts
scientists and William Shatner again Star Trek use advanced equipment
to track Navy tic tac UFOs, discovering unexpected insights about

(01:14:50):
UFOs and space time reality. This award winning documentary documentary,
A Tear in the Sky takes you on an unprecedented
journey in the UFO and UAP phenomena. A team of
military personnel, scientists and special guests, including William Shatner, will
attempt to recapture in real time, which is this is
the reason why I liked it, the US Navy tic

(01:15:12):
tac UFO incident, which is incredible, and what they find
instead are the provoking clues into the true nature of
the UFO phenomenon in the very fabricous space time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:26):
And I brought this up if.

Speaker 4 (01:15:27):
You remember what you said about how the UFOs blink
in and out and all of a sudden they appear.
In this particular movie, there's a scene where they actually
were able to register on their sensors the moving in
and out of these craft, now whether it was a portal,
whether it was a dimension, and they were able to

(01:15:48):
use to triangulate off the coast of southern California where
Catalina is Long Beach and Laguna Beach, and they triangulated
the positions and they tracked it and they used all
this sad that they were able to use and were
able to come up with some pretty significant stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:16:05):
So it's a cool movie.

Speaker 4 (01:16:07):
It's ninety minutes and it's something that I think will
add to your own knowledge and experience.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
Did you have you seen it?

Speaker 3 (01:16:14):
I did?

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
What your thoughts?

Speaker 5 (01:16:17):
I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:16:19):
I guess I expected more. I felt like the reveal
wasn't exciting for me as.

Speaker 5 (01:16:25):
I thought when I started it. But for many people,
they really love this movie. And you know, I guess
it just depends on your experiences, you know, right right?

Speaker 2 (01:16:35):
It was just cool.

Speaker 4 (01:16:35):
I think the cool thing to me was this idea
that it looked like they were able to replicate an
actual portal.

Speaker 2 (01:16:46):
Of them moving in and out.

Speaker 3 (01:16:47):
And that's the great equipment.

Speaker 5 (01:16:49):
They've got lots of expensive equipment in that movie that
the average person is just not going to have access to, right.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
And then they have a number of people who are
the guy from skim Walker Ran was there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:01):
It's Tim Taylor, not Tim Taylor, but Travis Taylor.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
Travis he was there.

Speaker 2 (01:17:06):
And then uh, mitchu uh.

Speaker 3 (01:17:09):
Uh says there right now.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
Yeah, he was on there, so they had a lot
of people who commentated and gave their uh.

Speaker 2 (01:17:21):
Yeah understanding of what was going on.

Speaker 4 (01:17:23):
So anyway, yeah, the whole point in the and what
we're trying to do is just offer these insights how
you can learn more, not only reading sometimes you get
boreded reading, but sometimes watching good documentaries and relate.

Speaker 3 (01:17:39):
To different stuff too.

Speaker 5 (01:17:40):
And that's why important to really see a wide variety
of you know, it's funny a lot of people is
you know, like keep an open mind, keeping over mind,
and I have to remember to keep an on in
mind even as an experience or we all still have
our own judgments and our own things in our own minds,
you know, like, oh, well what I saw was real,
but that sounds crazy, you know. So so for me,

(01:18:00):
you know, it's just great to just soak all of
this in, all of this information, and because even if
I can't relate to something specifically, I'm going to come
across somebody who can relate to it and to be
able to turn them onto this. But if you haven't
seen this, I mean, to me, this is just mandatory watching.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
It's upology one oh one. You know, there's a certain
list of like I know what I saw. That movie
is also great at tearing this guy. There are so many.

Speaker 5 (01:18:26):
Great movies that if you're new to the rabbit hole
of ethology and UFOs, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:18:32):
Just movies you need to see. If you haven't seen it,
get it in there. You need that foundation, you need
this knowledge.

Speaker 4 (01:18:38):
And one of the things I want to emphasize that
we want to try to bring to folks.

Speaker 2 (01:18:42):
We're going to try to show you that we.

Speaker 4 (01:18:47):
Move on and all of us who are passionate about
this this subject as well as this documentary, we don't
just believe it just to believe it willy nilly.

Speaker 2 (01:18:58):
We are just like everybodyody else. We use an approach.

Speaker 4 (01:19:02):
We use reasoning, we use science, We use evidence based stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
And sensors to try to record it.

Speaker 4 (01:19:10):
We read books on accounts, like testimony, like anything else.
We use all these to paint the picture of what
we believe the phenomena is. And so when we suggest
movies or you see movies like this, this is not
just people's thoughts and believes sitting around a table. They
use sensors, scientific approach to try to determine if their

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their you know, their hypothesis is what it is, is
it real, are they coming in or whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:19:41):
So I just think it's very.

Speaker 4 (01:19:43):
Important that you understand we're trying to use a method
or trying to prove for all of us, not just anybody,
if they are able to look at this jigsaw puzzle
of information and evidence, that they see the same thing
that we.

Speaker 5 (01:19:56):
See using scientific method too. I mean, there's just so
much evidence out there, and the truth is you've got
to see it, you've got to read it, and you
got to expose yourself to it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:06):
Or you're not going to know what's going on. And
so is one of those.

Speaker 4 (01:20:10):
So in the future, you know, CJ will come and
share a movie because I'm sure.

Speaker 3 (01:20:15):
There's a lot that I've watched so many So.

Speaker 4 (01:20:19):
We're going to try to highlight that, just like we're
trying to highlight books, and so we're the next thing
that we want to make.

Speaker 2 (01:20:24):
Sure that we share with people.

Speaker 4 (01:20:26):
It's just this whole idea of technology and where we're
at in terms of the future. And I'll be honest
with you, I just thought this was such a cool thing.
I don't know how many of you are aware of this.
We have this high idea of three D printing. Nowadays.
You know you can print dinosaurs, you can print things
that you may need, and you know they have it

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on space crafts for if they need things up there
that they can anywhere. But did you know that there's
a three D printer that creates biological biological what's the
word I'm using? It creates biological? What's the good word?

(01:21:11):
I just I just had it here. It creates bio
Let me just read it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:17):
Read it from the text right.

Speaker 4 (01:21:19):
Three D dimensional printing has rapidly evolved, with the major
application in the field of medicine. One of the greatest
advances leading to three D bioprinting with the development of biomaterials, materials, smells,
and supporting components for the fabrication of function living tissues.
Several different methods and techniques of three D printing are

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briefly described in this review article, and you can see
it there on the right. Three D bioprinting methods. Please
go if you want to read more about it, it's
online and the applications of three D printing for fabrication
of artificial blood.

Speaker 2 (01:21:54):
Cells and graphs are present.

Speaker 4 (01:21:57):
Advances in in addictive adaptive I'm sorry, additive manufacturing techniques,
medical imaging modulations, biomaterials, cellular engineering will lead to further
developments and the fabrication of patent specific vascular tissue construction.
Further multidiscipline research and innovations are expected to further transform

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the field of tissues engineering and regenerative medicine. I saw
recently where they're trying to create hearts, artificial hearts through
these things that are tailored to the patient that they're
involved with, and this machine creates this bio material hearts
that they can then transplant into a human being. You're

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talking about futuristic again. I'm not a scientist. I don't
know a lot about it. I'm just saying this stuff
is incredible. It's just incredible, and I just thought, these
are the things that we'd like to just inspire those
people that are listening to our program to help them
to realize this subject is more than just nuts and bolts.

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It's more than just what.

Speaker 2 (01:23:05):
We are at the sky. It's our future.

Speaker 4 (01:23:10):
It's our evolution, it's our new way of thinking, it's
our awareness, it's our technology, it's what we're going to
create and all that together can push us right, can
push us into the next level. So what's your thought
about this bio printing stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:23:26):
I mean, it sounds amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:23:27):
I'd like to see the printer, like what do you
load into the printer to print a heart.

Speaker 3 (01:23:32):
Muscle or to print a blood cell. I mean, I'm fascinated.

Speaker 4 (01:23:35):
You know, I was online and I saw them doing it,
so that it seems like they were first building it
on a computer and then they built it in whatever,
like you said, container that it was being built in,
and it was as opposed to whatever they used the
three D printing.

Speaker 2 (01:23:52):
To make a toy or whatever. They were using bio material.

Speaker 3 (01:23:57):
It's amazing.

Speaker 5 (01:23:58):
So you wouldn't have to be on a waiting waiting
for someone's demons med couidn or a liver or a heart.

Speaker 3 (01:24:05):
They would be able to print you on. That's amazing.

Speaker 4 (01:24:08):
And what they were able to do even more amazing
to me because of the whare they're rejected. This is
predicated all the information on your own makeup, biological makeup,
so it correlates exactly to that, and then they create
all these things. I just it was amazing when I
saw so I just think this is cool stuff to

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get to the folks, to tell them where we're moving
and the future. Again, the future is what we make it.
We are the future, and stuff like this is going
to take us to the next level. Imagine cancer, Imagine
other organs that they can create, Imagine stints and interjecting
nanotechnologies and things. So this article and I just want

(01:24:49):
to make sure that we would give this article. This
article is online the three D Bioprinting Methods and Techniques
application on artificial blood vessel fabrications and other aspects that
it'll accomplish in the future.

Speaker 2 (01:25:03):
So way cool stuff. So I just thought it was
called I wanted to share it.

Speaker 3 (01:25:07):
Yeah, it's amazing. The future is now, man, the future
is happening now.

Speaker 4 (01:25:12):
So I think I just wanted to make sure that
everybody knew what we here at MoveOn and what our
goals and missions are. And this is part of the
move On's creed and like anything else, our whole I
hope is to try to drive the advancements of this

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field and research and get the information out to people.

Speaker 2 (01:25:38):
Do the studies, collect the data.

Speaker 4 (01:25:42):
We want to investigate these sidings and systematically collect all
the data that we can because we have a very
very very large move On database that you can access.

Speaker 2 (01:25:52):
You can see what we're doing. We create monthly statistics.

Speaker 4 (01:25:57):
And we provide this information to many groups, many forms
and also government contractors and others. The OFFSET program, I
don't know a lot of people when they created their database,
the Jacques Relet put together, they had a group of
data download from move On over to OFFSET to help

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populate and of course everybody knows the more data that
you have, the more incidences you have, the more your
ability to analyze it and collect more round and concrete
information and data. Then we want to promote the research
of to uncover as much as we can about the

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true nature and this is the thing that's significant, the
true nature of the phenomenon, but to focus under the
scientific discoveries and other enhancements that we want to bring
to not only us, but to everybody else. And then finally,
you know this whole idea about educating the public, which
is what we're doing now. And of course that ED

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can spark all kinds of growth and change, paradigm shifts
and just a more deeper understanding of who we are
in line with on the precipice and who we are
and where we're going. So I just want to make
sure that our audience understands that that's really our philosophy
and that's where we hope and intend to go.

Speaker 2 (01:27:22):
With what we are creating with this program.

Speaker 5 (01:27:25):
That's right, And you know, I just really hope also
that the people watching this, if you've seen a UFO, if.

Speaker 3 (01:27:32):
You've had an experience and you haven't.

Speaker 5 (01:27:34):
Reported it yet, please take the time and report it
to move on.

Speaker 3 (01:27:38):
You can do it anonymously.

Speaker 5 (01:27:41):
And you know, one of the things I always think
about is I have so many people who like military
who make a report.

Speaker 3 (01:27:50):
And they'll say, I was on night Watch with the
guy this is his name. Did he report this? You
know where is he?

Speaker 5 (01:27:57):
I can't find him, And a lot of people out
there are looking for confirmation.

Speaker 3 (01:28:01):
So if you see something and you might.

Speaker 5 (01:28:03):
Not think it's too significant, please report it because what
you might be reporting is you saw a light in
the sky behaving in a way that no aircraft could
but someone else closer might have had a different report,
and you would be helping to confirm the other reports.
So it's just important. I know a lot of people
out there will going, yeah, I saw your phone never
reported it is that, you know, just report it, let

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us decide. We'll decide if it's worth reporting or not,
if it's something or not something or what's going on.
But unless we get this information, we don't have it.
And you really, I can't tell you the relief you
give to other people who saw what you saw and
want to just hear that they weren't alone.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
Was I the only person who saw that? No?

Speaker 5 (01:28:45):
I just found two other reports from the same month
and the same time of a craft that looked very
similar to what you're reporting. And that's the kind of
information we need. You're going to be giving relief to
other people.

Speaker 3 (01:28:56):
Who saw what you saw, and also for yourself because
you know that we're all here together.

Speaker 5 (01:29:01):
To help each other and to you know, just confirm
each other's sidings and what's going on and where they
came from. And but yeah, that's just kind of my
plug is like, even if you don't think it's topig
of a deal what you saw, just report it because
you might be really helping somebody else with your report,
you know.

Speaker 4 (01:29:17):
Right Again, that's the whole focus of what move On
is doing. They're educating, you know, the researching they're investigating,
just so that we can provide everybody with information about
what we believe potentially is going on with it, you know.
So one of the things we're also going to do

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in the future, and we're going to do some case
presentation stuff and it's right out of our move On books.
And so this next segment, what we're going to do
is we're just going to look at it just a
small case and just give you the information as we
get it. Now, for those of you out there who
don't know a lot about Movefon, this is actually how

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it's catalog and characterized. And then we make a lot
of presentations. The stuff that you're going to see and
hear and read are from our actual cases. Where we
use real names, that's because the person gave us permission
to use real names. Where we didn't use any names
or locations, it's because the person requests.

Speaker 2 (01:30:19):
At an enemy.

Speaker 4 (01:30:21):
So I just want to tell you that it's funny
about this this one coming up.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
This happened in your neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (01:30:28):
I went to Lakeside Elementary I know very well.

Speaker 2 (01:30:32):
So I just wanted you know, it was kind of
a surprise. Yeah, So.

Speaker 4 (01:30:39):
What I'm going to do is it's just a quick case.
There is a lot of words and reading, but it's
going to go very quick. But I want you to
see where we're at with that, all right, So as
you can see, that's our email address. Please for those
of you write us, let us know how we're doing.
Please send us information, a subject matter to talk about,

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and just whatever else you think we need to know.

Speaker 2 (01:31:04):
So thanks for putting that up though, I appreciate it.

Speaker 4 (01:31:06):
So this move on case is case number one three
four five three five. The investigators who usually do it
if they have a topic or a subject matter that
they want to name the case or a title.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
I named this the swarm.

Speaker 4 (01:31:21):
We receive this case and move on in October nine,
twenty twenty three, and the date of the event that
happened was at March nineteen eighty four. The experience here
in this particular case is a married female. She was
twenty years old at the time. She was when she
reported it. She's sixty years old now. And of course
the location is a family home in Lakeside, California.

Speaker 2 (01:31:46):
So this and.

Speaker 4 (01:31:47):
Again hopefully all can read it. And I'm just going
to use some of my figure reading. So this occurred
in as it says there in March nineteen eighty four,
and the experience here it's twenty She was pregnant. She
was living with her then then husband and his son
in her husband's home. This is in Lakeside suburb of
San Diego County. The couple went to bed on the

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night that they reported around nine pm. Their bedroom was
located in the northwest corner of the residence and it
had a west facing window, and their bedroom door opened
to the south side living room along.

Speaker 2 (01:32:20):
With the west facing front door. Don't worry about that,
I have a map.

Speaker 4 (01:32:25):
Sometime after going to bed, the experience of all of
a sudden woke up in a whirl up to a
whirling sound. Once she opened her eyes, she could see
that there was a significant light flooding in to the
house from outside of her bedroom window.

Speaker 2 (01:32:41):
The light was so.

Speaker 4 (01:32:42):
Bright that it appeared to be daylight inside of her bedroom.
She got up to see what was causing the light.
As she sat on the edge of her bed, she
could see from her bedroom door that the light was
now moving through her front living room window.

Speaker 16 (01:32:58):
We've heard that before, right, Yeah, So, as I promised,
there's this chematic of the house so just to give
you an anyway, as the expenser sat up on her bed,
she was done to watch as the light flooding.

Speaker 2 (01:33:12):
It flooding into the living room.

Speaker 4 (01:33:15):
It was swirling around much like a group of swarming
birds in synchronized flight. She described what she was seeing
as a multi colored sparkling emanation emanating from the lights,
like millions of specks that were all lit up. Some
people equated with like fireflies, but they were really condensed.
As she watched, the swarm moved deeper into her home

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and it seemed to be observing the inside. Remember her
saying that it seemed to be like it was intelligent.
It was moving like it was looking or watching. The
experiences said she was not afraid as she got the
impression that it was not there to harm her. The
light swarmed receded back out of the house the same
way it entered. This happened all of a sudden. She

(01:34:01):
got up to see where it went, but it suddenly
turned off and it was gone.

Speaker 2 (01:34:06):
So came in.

Speaker 4 (01:34:07):
She saw it passed her bedroom and then next thing
you know, it left. She looked outside, but there was
no sign of anything. The experience I believed that there
was some sort of craft about the home at the time,
but she never actually saw anything. The experiences said that
her husband also woke up when the light first appeared,
but he was very afraid of the light and did

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not get out of bed. Wow, right now, this is
all testimony from her during our interview. The experiences said
that there was a strange number of strange events that
occurred in the old house that she lived in prior
to them. Once they saw plate's move. Another time, she
heard a voice coming from the hallway bathroom, even though

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no one else was at the home at the time.
When they went to investigated, the bathroom door was closed,
but they heard a female's voice inside and who said
for them to come in. However, they never looked inside
as it scared them. The experience said that she and
her husband believed there was bad energy in the house
that was somehow attached to them.

Speaker 2 (01:35:13):
Now, a lot of.

Speaker 4 (01:35:14):
Times when we talked to experiences, these seem to cross
different genres of the phenomenon, and so it's interesting to
always see what those people have experienced in the past
that may have any correlation or validation to what they've
experienced that they reported. The experiencer mentioned that she was
when the experiencer also mentioned that when she was six

(01:35:35):
or seven and living in Maryland, a stranging thing happened
one night. She was asleep in her bedroom when she
woke up scared for some reason. She got up to
see and saw a bunch of small blue and red
tiny lights flying around her room. So this is an
earlier experience with lights in her room or a swarm.

Speaker 2 (01:35:56):
They're red and white.

Speaker 4 (01:35:58):
She got up to see and saw the bunch of
small blue and red lights flying around the room.

Speaker 2 (01:36:03):
They were like pin lights, she said, and.

Speaker 4 (01:36:06):
They reminded her of her favorite TV show at the time,
which was Superman. She said that they were a bunch
of lights, a hundred or more and they were just
flying around. After a minute watching them, she became scared
and screamed for her mother. When her mother came to
check on her and turn the lights on, the tiny
lights disappeared, which I thought, Holy moly, that's a fascinating experience.

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And by the way, we know through investigations that people
who have had multiple experiences, multiple abductions, multiples encounters experienced
things like this all the time. Especially I just want
to tell these to the people in the audience, especially children,
don't discount the things that you've experienced. When you're a kid,
sometimes you forget, sometimes you bury them. But they're critical

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in terms of understanding what you experience and then if
you report her what we're able to investigate. So the
experience told me a number of other things that I
thought was impressive. In twenty twenty one, the experiences said
that her grandfather was on this debtbed where she was
at his side. She asked him if he was afraid
of dying, but he said he was not and he

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was ready to go. She took a break from sitting
with him and went home to freshen up. When she
got home, she walked into her living room and she
saw three shadowing figures standing there. She felt that they
were her grandfather's passing siblings come to take him home.
She said, as soon as she came in, she show
those shadows because she had just come. She immediately had

(01:37:34):
this impression and that he was passed. And as she said,
she knew that at that time that he had passed.
Her mother then she said right after that call and
said that he had passed. The ironic things she said
three days later, after the incident. The experiencer was out
on her back deck where she smelled the smoke of

(01:37:56):
the debts Master's cigar, and she said that same brand
was what herandfather smoked.

Speaker 2 (01:38:01):
So she believed that.

Speaker 4 (01:38:02):
Her grandfather, either with saying goodbye or wherever he went,
he was making sure that he had one less interactional
with Tim. Finally, the last range event that she said
during our interview happened to her current husband when he
was about thirty years old.

Speaker 2 (01:38:19):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 4 (01:38:19):
The last ranger happened to her and her current husband,
so she had the first experience was a previous marriage.
When she was talking to me her current husband, he
explained to her that when he was thirty years old,
he's playing tennis with her friend near a wooded area.

Speaker 2 (01:38:36):
Suddenly he's small.

Speaker 4 (01:38:37):
He saw a small pinpoint beam of light come down
out of the sky and onto the tennis court between
the two players, him and his friend. The next thing,
the husband saw two strange looking guys walking out of
the wooded area and onto the tennis courts, where they
began paying tennis next to them. The strangers played for

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a while and then left the same back way through
the woods that they came when the husband asked the
guy who was playing with When the husband asked the
guy who was playing with him, the guy remarked that
he did not see anybody playing next to them, so
only the husband had seen him the experience. Yeah, so
it was an encounter that her now husband had thirty

(01:39:20):
years ago when he was a younger man. The experiencer
now is in her sixties. She worked as a nurse
practitioner and is living in Alaska. She believed that the
light that entered her bedroom when she was younger, as
well as when she was first married married demonstrated an
intelligence and purpose. Likewise, the other strange events throughout her
life also reflected a relationship with the phenomena.

Speaker 2 (01:39:43):
And then just the last So this is what she
said they look like to her.

Speaker 4 (01:39:50):
It was a So we used the idea of a
swarm of birds because she said the lights were like
the light on the right on my part of this week.
But it said had an intelligence like you would see
a swarm of birds, So samuone copperstrato. You know, you
would see the birds flying around, swallows flying around and
they have this pattern, or fishes in the sea, you know,

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big groups of fishes of sea. When whales come in,
it's like a big sort of an entity, a unified
entity made up of small parts. And so when we
did the investigation and then I talked to her about
what it was called, she said, this is what she
remembers it being like.

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
And so this is this is just.

Speaker 4 (01:40:32):
One of only the many cases that Moufon has investigated.
And what we try to do is just investigate, do research,
do background, and try to validate as much as we
do and offer it and then we share it with
Moufon and then whoever else would like to.

Speaker 2 (01:40:53):
Read about it.

Speaker 4 (01:40:53):
So those are just one This is just one of
the cases that we investigate. These are one of the
cases that we would like to present to the people
in the future, and I know you have a number
of cases that you would like to share. It just
gives the people who are listening to our broadcast a
little bit of inside of the work that we try
to do, and then I try to educate.

Speaker 3 (01:41:14):
It was like a symposium lecture right here. You got
a little free taste of that.

Speaker 5 (01:41:19):
But yeah, exactly in that case had everything including like
the family lineage and how this tends to follow genetic genetics,
you know, families, it's not uncommon for it to affect you,
your grandmother, your great grandmother, your children and aunt like you.

Speaker 3 (01:41:36):
Know, and sometimes families don't talk about this. It was
much later.

Speaker 5 (01:41:40):
It was only recently I spoke to other family members
and found out their experiences.

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
Because I never spoke of it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:47):
Absolutely. You know, what will happen is, Yeah, I was
a little kid.

Speaker 4 (01:41:51):
We were playing outside and all of a sudden, we
saw some lights, or we saw a sphere, or we
saw an orb, or we saw somebody. We thought they
were just playing with they're playing piky Boo with us.
We had this a lot of times with children. There's
all of a sudden, somebody would appear and they're playing
piky Boo or whatever, or in the room sometimes and
then relatives have had experiences.

Speaker 2 (01:42:14):
We've had whole families out in barbecues.

Speaker 4 (01:42:16):
All of a sudden there's a craft above them, and
then it goes over. And then we talked to five
of them and one of them didn't see it, one
of them doesn't remember it, another one remembers, Hey.

Speaker 2 (01:42:26):
That was fifteen.

Speaker 4 (01:42:27):
There was twenty minutes, fifteen twenty minutes missing what happened.
But they don't ever talk about it because they don't know.
They get scared maybe I didn't see it, or hey,
maybe I'm crazy, and they won't relay this stuff. So
the good thing about with Moufan and especially the way
we care to interact with these people, they open us
up to this information even though they know that some

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people will not believe it. Some people will deny it,
and some people will just discount.

Speaker 3 (01:42:53):
It and they see different things they can be looking.

Speaker 5 (01:42:56):
Someone go, yes, I do remember the light, and other
people will remember a craft, you know, and so.

Speaker 3 (01:43:02):
I forget his name.

Speaker 5 (01:43:03):
But I'm but just talking about the genetic markers that
make it possible for certain people and certain lineages to
see this, to be more open to this phenomenon, and
some people simply don't have it and they're not going
to be able to see it. And that's just how
it is, and I don't understand it personally. But those
are the kind of things we can dive into deeper
in future episodes as well.

Speaker 4 (01:43:25):
Well personally, as we bring awareness and openness and we
talk about these subjects and let those other people who
have either not wanted to or denied it or not
wanting to share with anybody, and we can tell them, hey,
you're not alone. Many people have experienced this stuff, and
the more we're able to share, the more we're able

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to at least identify with others. Maybe that'll help us
to understand what we're going through or what we saw
and move on. And other organizations, especially those who do
support work for people who have been abducted groups you
know and hypnotherapists and.

Speaker 2 (01:44:03):
People have written many, many accounts, you know.

Speaker 4 (01:44:05):
One of the ones I want to bring in the future,
and and this is where I want to go with
this particular segment. Doctor John mac many of you know,
did a great number of books on the subject, and
I'm hoping that we you know, Passport to the Cosmos,
we'll be able to explore that and his work, his
ground baking work as a Harvard psychologist, and his belief

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in this work and the credibility that it brings to
what we're all experiencing will help those who are here
and who are listening to.

Speaker 2 (01:44:35):
Our broadcast sharing ye.

Speaker 3 (01:44:41):
In Africa.

Speaker 4 (01:44:43):
Absolutely, so, you know, we're almost at the end here,
and what I'd like to do is maybe just some
closing thoughts, uh and closing perspective if that's okay with
U C J.

Speaker 2 (01:44:56):
And if you'd like to, if you'd like to, you
want to go first.

Speaker 3 (01:45:00):
Just closing thoughts, Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:45:04):
I just want to say thanks to everybody who's listening.
I know a lot of you that are tuning in
are probably here because you remember Earl and you loved him,
and thanks for giving us a chance. You know, we're
going to do our best. There's so many things that
are just even brought up in this episode. You know,
that's why you kept seeing me do this, because as
I was making notes of things to look up and

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to you know, see in the future, and to just
get involved. You know, there's so many ways you can
get involved. You don't have to join move On. There's
many organizations, you can join many groups, support groups. But
sharing your experiences is really where it starts. And that's
something I had never really done before other than with
Earl and move On.

Speaker 3 (01:45:47):
But it's really important to.

Speaker 5 (01:45:49):
Do that if you can, and I know not everybody's
ready to or able to, but getting out there, meeting
other people in the community and sharing your experiences is
just going to help other people, including yourself. It's almost
like you know, when you don't share your experience, you know,
I think of it as like a big two liter
bottle of soda that like fell out of the trunk

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and it's all shooken up, and you got to just
loosen it and just let a little bit of the
air out.

Speaker 3 (01:46:13):
You just got to talk a little bit and share
with people until it just kind of evens out.

Speaker 5 (01:46:18):
And that's how it felt for me, because I hadn't
spoken with anybody about it, And then recently I was
on an episode of you know, Earl Love the YouTube
channel breaking the Silence with Steve and Mary, and I
my first time actually talking about my own experiences publicly,
and that's on their channel, so you might want to
check it out.

Speaker 3 (01:46:37):
But I'm just really grateful to be here with you, Richard.
I know you handled.

Speaker 5 (01:46:40):
I mean, you really want to get into that Jack
Rabbit case, one of the most amazing cases of our
recent history here in southern California, and you know, exploring
with all of these guests, You're going to see some
of the guests Earl already had on they're going to
come back and talk to us too, and just I
don't know, Thanks Bill, You're awesome.

Speaker 3 (01:46:58):
We got this little secret chat you guys don't see,
and he's helping us out. He's mentioning things, popping things.

Speaker 5 (01:47:03):
In and I don't know, I just couldn't be more
grateful and humble.

Speaker 3 (01:47:08):
To be here like he just did that.

Speaker 5 (01:47:10):
He just popped our email up. That's how amazing he is.
But you know, I just want to talk to people.
I really want to meet more experiencers and talk to
the people listening and get to know who you guys
are too. So thanks Richard, thanks for everything you did.
This was an amazing presentation. You did a lot of
work to prepare for this episode, and thank you well.

Speaker 4 (01:47:29):
I really appreciate the fact that what you've offered to
everybody and what you bring to what we hope will
be many, many episodes and insights. You know, it's very
important that you know, people see all of us as
people and identify with different perspectives and ideas. And you know,

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one thing that I want to make sure that everybody understands,
we appreciate giving us the opportunity to share this stuff.
Appreciate what Earle has laid in terms of a foundation.
We appreciate what this radio station and Bill have given us.
The opportunity to have a form for this. We appreciate

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what move On has done both in terms of education
and what it's doing to the future, and we could
not do it without all those But I will tell
you our future and the things that we want to
accomplish here can only be done with the participation of
the people who are listening to us. Please let us
know how we're doing, let us know what you think

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we should share. If you have had an experience or
a citing, the more we're able to get people to
report it, the more siting is because listen, only a
fraction of what is actually experienced is reported.

Speaker 2 (01:48:50):
We all know that.

Speaker 4 (01:48:52):
We need There's so many things in the sky. We're
going to talk about capturing your own stuff. We're going
to talk about equipment. There's so many things that happen
people's lives and their parents and their grandparents.

Speaker 2 (01:49:03):
In terms of history, the evidence is there.

Speaker 4 (01:49:06):
We're going to talk about space, We're going to talk
about ancient history, because all those relate to who we are.
And so please assist us contribute to what we are
doing so that we can involve the process. And so
I have one more thought, Bill, if you can bring
up that last So I have just one more thought.
This is my closing thoughts for what I believe and

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I think. I would like for you to know. Life
is all about you because you are the phenomenon. That's
really what it's about. There is no UFO phenomenon only whatever.
It's all about us. You, we are the phenomenon. It's
not about fear, it's not about control, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:49:52):
Not about ego.

Speaker 4 (01:49:53):
These are the distractions or the contructs that you create
in your own mind. If you think you can, if
you think you can't, you're right. So you decide. It's
all about discovering who you really are. And I just
want you to know thank you for listening to us.
This is what we want for the people moving forward,
and this is what we wanted to share to everybody

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in the audience. So thank you very much for allowing
us to come into your home and to your offices
and to your iPads and everything. Yeah that you watched this,
and please be with us on our next episode. We
have more episodes and more things that we're going to
be doing, and we have guests and it's just an
exciting time. We want to make our all proud and

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we want to make sure that we share with the
people what we believe will all edify us. It's like
an illumination. All we're trying to do for one flashlight
in life. We just want to shine it, look there
and see where it can take you so we.

Speaker 5 (01:50:53):
Can create that swarm you were talking about. That's warm
of lights, right.

Speaker 2 (01:50:59):
So thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (01:51:01):
Thank you everybody, Thank you Bill.

Speaker 4 (01:51:03):
I think we we're about ready to rock and roll. Bill,
do you have anything you want to pop over and say?

Speaker 8 (01:51:09):
Hi?

Speaker 4 (01:51:10):
Have any closing thoughts on our first show? I think
he is he's hard.

Speaker 1 (01:51:17):
I think you guys set such a high bar for
this show. I am looking forward to what you guys
bring in the future. This was an amazing relaunch on
the precipice here of move On Contact Radio. And I
know Earle has that big smile right now.

Speaker 3 (01:51:38):
His laugh.

Speaker 1 (01:51:40):
Doing this right now and bulcome out a cup because
get ready for more from CJ and Rich Vanisek and
looking forward to it. So until next time, I guess
we're out of here.

Speaker 3 (01:51:55):
Thank you,