January 2, 2025 • 42 mins
Happy New Year! 2025 is here but we are on a short break. We had SO MUCH to talk about when it came to The Perfect Couple, this outtakes is entirely from that episode - champaign was flowing!
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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Wow, there's so much bonus episode stuff here. I just
looked at the time.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Of this, I was like, we have not even made
it to like anything.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
And even made it to the break yet that's fine.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Oh maybe wait, this is just how we talk about
this episode. It's a weird episode, and we can do
a prologue and be like, this episode is not normal.
We had Champagne and therefore it's a little different.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Enjoy I mean, or maybe I just break this into
two episodes.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Oh, part one Part two. Yes, our prologue is because
I don't know that I want to give this show two.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Parts, because of the whole reason that the thing, Yeah,
what if we're not word we're boring, and then then.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Somebodyful think about our part one same.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I only think we're interesting because of the Champagne crapt
many ways. Okay, I think part two is a bonus
episode somewhere now, Yesna split the difference. Yes, we're gonna
have a whole bonus episode that's just show. Yes, because
we're minutes in and yes I haven't. I'm like, I
(01:23):
just got to the end of thoughts. I mean, wow, yeah, yeah, Okay,
welcome back to Killer Found, where we explore the intersection
of crime and entertainment. Every other week, I'm Christy and
today today, well, as you heard, we have some outtakes
for you all from one episode, all about our episode
(01:43):
from The Perfect Couple. We decided we had so much
to say about that show that it needed its own
second episode, but we didn't like it enough to make
it a part one and part two. We decided we
had to make the second part of The Perfect Couple
(02:05):
discussion and outtakes episode. And so here we are Welcome
to the new year. We're so happy that you're joining
us for this brand new content that we recorded a
little while ago, so we can have a little bit
of a break and you still get to get fresh content. So,
(02:27):
oh my gosh, there's so much of this. We have
lots of things to talk about. We talk about how
the house was a generic rich person. Of course, there
are flubs, because there are always flubs, and you know, Champagne.
We talk about whether some poor behavior was due to
misogyny or the person being an outsider. Not every show
(02:49):
has to be eight episodes long when it's a limited series.
We could just make movies of things too. That is
also okay. I think this might have done better as
a movie. We talk about naming homes, addictions to romantic partners, y'all,
don't break the seal?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Are there?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Dash and Dolly books? We talk about the office a
little bit. All the zoologists do is you know, pet animals, right,
that's all they do, right, Imposter syndrome and a relationship.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
All kinds of stuff. Oh my gosh. Well, I do
hope that you enjoy these outtakes.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Somehow unique or somehow like I don't know, at.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Least eye catching, because even the only thing I catching
was literally the space. I mean, the house is okay,
but really where the house is on that bay, yeah,
in that area, like that is beautiful, but like even
everything in that side the house was a little boring.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, it was just wasn't it was generic rich person.
It wasn't like interesting. Yeah, if you were gonna rent
an Airbnb in that area, that's what the house looking.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, like the skoulder grade rich like we did.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yes, Like when you go to one of the model
homes in a new neighborhood, Yes, and they have done
every upgrade imaginable plus a little bit more because the
decorator did it right. Like it's nice, but it's not.
You don't walk in and say ooh, that's.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Amazing, right, or it's interesting, Oh that's a style or.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
That huh no, because it's meant to appeal to as
many people as.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Possible, right, Right, it's supposed to give you a generic
idea of the possibilities, right, But like their kitchen, very generic.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Honestly, I don't like all very high end but nothing spectacular.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
It almost feels like, oh my gosh, I'm gonna get
myself in trouble.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Y'all, don't at me. Okay.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
There's this particular type of high end that like is
high end, but it's not designer okay, And it's really
high end because of some sort of marketing, not because
it actually is better. And so there's this particular style,
(05:22):
and there's there's neighborhoods I can think of, and then
there's high end that almost people may not realize. If
you don't care about that design or the or some
sort of function or some sort of thing that really
is more expensive, you might not catch even that it's
high end because you know, but like it just feels
like a it feels like a fake high end, like
(05:45):
like a scam like they think it's high end and
the people who are like selling it or like Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Oh goodie, I got you to pay two thousand dollars
more for the thing that's actually cheap.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah, because like literally, like the only thing different here
is this one piece of molding and it's build a
rain Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Right, Like that's what it felt like in the house.
And maybe that was.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
An intentional thing, but I didn't feel anything else drawing
me in, right except my criticism.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Okay, my criticism kept me awake.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Greer right winds too much Champagne.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Let me have another zup, you know, like Champagne coffeee.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
You know, it's a small down you. I can't decide
why the.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Nantucket police are being snarky towards Detective Henry.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I was like, is it because she's a woman.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Partly it's that I think it's because she's from Boston.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
She's kind of average looking, she's expensive clothes. I feel
like they have been police officers in this little, tiny
place so long that they don't understand that you don't
have to have all these wealthy trappings to be like
good at your chop.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Yeah, but she is, she doesn't She's not part of
their department. She comes in from like from Hyannas or whatever.
I think a little bit of it is you don't
you're not from here.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yes, I think that's prreat.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Because Nantucket is very like every time if they have
to bring somebody else in. First of all, they have
a pr nightmare because somebody has been killed on the island.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And the second of all, then then it's like.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Too big and the police department gets kicked out of
their own jurisdiction.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
By a woman.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, buy a woman, you know, and it's like, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
A woman not even dressed fancy.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
No.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
But also there is a little bit of that just
Massachusetts way, okay, A little bit of that is just
very like normal, all fun. A little bit of just
normal like ribbing right like and like at that at
the desk, like she's sitting there and he's like trying
to give her the things and but I will take
the donut and they have a nice little interchange.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
It's like a little bit of normal to be to
be gruff, okay. And there's actually no deep hard feelings.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Okay, sometimes good okay, maybe a little double entendre, but
in general.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Just a little that's just kind of how they are.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Yeah, okay, yeah, so it might be that a little
of that I can get behind that.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, I mean she takes the donut that was that.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Was really funny. That you can just make the story
more concise. Yes, you can make fewer episodes.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, I mean it's hard. I know.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
This this is a you know, this is a brand
new format. I mean, this whole thing is a brand
new format. The idea that the TV so shows are
not serial, right, that are not episodic. Yeah, that it's
actually one long story. It's a soap opera in that way, right,
But it's not because it's more condensed. It's a whole
(09:08):
new format.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I know that.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
I read a whole article about this on the New
York Times talking about how like it is interesting to
watch them forge a new entertainment format and some are
crushing it and others really fall flat. And it's kind
of like if made in a different format, it probably
would have been a home run. But trying out these
(09:32):
stories and these things that they want to tell in
these different formats where you have like this extended episode
but it's not episodic, but it's too long to be
a movie. But it's not really a soap opera and
dropping it all at once.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
It's hard. It's a weird new thing.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
It is hard. And I would say about sixty percent
of these limited series that I've seen would really benefit
from just being a movie.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yep, yep, agreed, Like, just.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You know what, if you have to cut stuff out
to get down to one hundred and twenty minutes, it's
really gonna be a much more concise, compelling story. You
don't have to save something exciting or interesting for the
next episode or have filler to get to the cliffhanger
(10:26):
at the end of the episode. Just make it a movie.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Just make it a movie, or make it make it
that long or a little longer, like directors cut long and.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Cut it into four or five episodes.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Sure, we're used to this now, Yeah, we're used to
these very short limited series, even three or four episodes.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, Like, okay, I have to make it a movie.
I have to make it three hours long. Okay, make
it a limited series, make it three episodes long.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Absolutely, just do that. It's totally fine. It's totally fine.
And let episodic be episodic, right right, Like, for instance,
right now in CIS origins, crushing it. Okay, fan freakingtastic.
Oh good, it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I'm so glad that it's good. Oh, it's so good.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
But you know, they're holding true to the episodic with
the whole arc, but they're they're injecting a little bit
more of a big arc, right, so they're blending a
bit of that whole streaming idea.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Uh huh, that's good.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
So when it drops all it once later on in
life and people go.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Back and watch it, I think it's gonna I think
it's gonna hold on.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
People are thinking about that.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, well, because that's what's next, right, Like, this is
how your shows live on. This is how you make
money off of your shows in the future.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, because like I will watch things on syndication. My
kids don't know what that word is.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
No, they do not.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
They know They ask is it streaming? Right, And that's
basically syndication syndication. It's just on demand.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yes, so you just don't have to wait for TBS
to run the marathon.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Okay, But also, isn't it lovely to click through TV channels?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I still love this.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
I mean I love this because guess what I cannot
put I cannot at all produce enough good ideas.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
So you asked me what I want to watch, and
I'm like, I don't know. I won't think of the thing.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
But if I'm clicking through and I come to Signs
of a Psychopath, I'm like, I'm never gonna think to
go is there any show about the Signs of a Psychopath?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
No?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
No, I'm gonna click through and find that on ID.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
You're right, like, okay, so I think the new version
of clicking through channels is clicking through the for you
recommended for you based on your algorithm on the different
streaming site. Yeah, because I'll be like, oh, I did
not know that that was the thing, and they'll serve
me up, you know, a eight year old TV show
(12:56):
and I'm like, oh, well that sounds fun. I'll watch
an episode of that. Like are you watching the entire
eight seasons of The Mentalists?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Right, yeah, yes, yes, I just need to get better
at that.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
But the surprise of finding something and just turning it on.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
And clicking back and forth, because see I watched the
Little Signs of the Psychopath and then I watched The
Little Oceans eleven.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Oh okay, when the commercials came on.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
You're like, I flip back and forth.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I like the most of television.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
It's perfect.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Chef's kiss, it's great, all right, I still have more thought, Yes,
thoughts so much bonus episode.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yes, so the home has a name summer Land. Oh yes,
I'm like, why do we name home? I know lots
of people who do that.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Really, Yeah, yeah, they named their homes, name their homes,
name their cars.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I don't do this.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I say, I've named my before.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, i'd ever done any of this.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Oh yeah, it's kind of interesting.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, Like I know people who do well. I wonder
if that's having a military mindset. If you name your home,
you get a little.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Attached to it.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I mean because like they're very attacked.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
This is a family home that's been in her husband's
family time, and I'm like.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
That's something I don't have, right, I would love to.
I would love to have head. I tried to for
my own family, right, but then life was just different.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Right, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
See, And I can't bring myself to name the house
that we're in now because I can like kind of
see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I love my home. I do.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
This is the longest I've ever lived in this one
place ever in my entire life.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I love it. I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I don't want to move out, but I know that
the day that I move out is closer than when
I moved in, right, Like, once the kids are out
of the house, and I can kind of look forward
to the what is next when we move out of
this house? Yeah, you know what is what is the
(15:13):
next thing? And I kind of look forward to that.
Not that I look forward to my kids being grown
and often things, but I can. It feels less sad
about thinking my kids not living under the same roof
as me when I.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Can think about all of the fun things that I
can go and do.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Yeah, it's right when you think you're not going to
be under the roof either, right, like exactly graduating season,
that's right, exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
So I mean maybe, like maybe that's why I can't
name my house. Well and wait, I didn't think that
we would be in this house this long, so I
didn't name it when we moved in. Yeah, yeah, but
I guess so it seems really pretentious.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Right, I need to like make a make an entry
like it's But if you're on the bucket.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
But I mean, like, if I had a house on
Nantucket and it came with a name, I would absolutely
call it that name me too, if I like me to.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Somebody is like, you've.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Won, you know, a billion dollars in the lottery, and
I'm like, I bought summer land.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yes, we're going to summer lands.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
That sounds fun, It makes it fun.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, okay, I'll do that.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Let's do that when we win. Yeah, well we'll buy
some summer land.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Huh.
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Might forearn a little something too. Amelia laments that she
isn't addicted to Benji, and I'm like, what have harlequnfance
novels done to our expectations?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Everything she said?
Speaker 4 (17:16):
And I was like her her friend was good to
her because she understood that that was not the moment
to have a therapy lesson, but still put her at
east and I thought, well done, well done friend, But
oh my gosh, a therapy lesson is indeed needed, because.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Ah, yeah, there's so many thoughts I had about though.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I mean, I was like, Okay, I get it well,
and maybe the weekend of your wedding you want to
be like have that addicted to your future spouse feeling,
but like overall it's really kind of unhealthy.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, it's like like codependent.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
It's just I mean, Dick's did tears.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
I mean, I think the problem is she's she's trying
to describe something else, right, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Going on with her.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
But also also, yeah, I think you you don't want
to be addicted, means you're not actually thinking rationally at all, right, right,
we don't.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Want to be there either, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
And also, weddings and all are actually more stressful. They're
not fairy tales for most people because they are stressful.
They do include family strife, they do include a lot
of like stuff going on, you're exhausted, right and so
and so the idea because nobody's just doing it for
you and then you show up to this beautiful thing
(18:42):
and then do the thing.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
No, there's just so.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Much work, right, it's far less glamorous in the moment.
When it's glamorous is when you look back at the
photos and show them off.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
That's why it's glamorous. And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Maybe maybe it's glamorous. I earn all that glamorous student
photographer take pictures of my wedding, but still poor, well.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
But still likely looking back right, like, yeah, all of
the things.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I don't know. In the moment, I don't know. It
was exhausting. I found it exhausting.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yes, it was exhausting. It was exhausting, but.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
I had I had some good people at the time
kind of give me that advice.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Oh good.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
So like my cater caterer, he was not his first rodeo,
and he was like, you're going to be tired.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
You're also going to be pulled away.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
So I'm gonna you know, we're doing the buffet, don't
rush to it.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Don't worry.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
There will be an entire picnic basket that's built for
you and your husband, and that will be a to
go of everything.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
That's on the buffet. Oh that's so.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Even though we went and picked a few things because
it was so pretty, we knew we had dinner afterwards. Yeah,
and so he just did it as part of it.
He was like, by the way, so this is this
and that's.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Where that is so smart.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Smart. I would have never asked. I would have never
thought to ask, because in everyday.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Life, is there anything that's going to keep me from
an Italian buffet? And by buffet, I mean like fancy
dancy Italian like situation. I'm like, know me and pasa. Yeah, yeah,
but no not that day. No, No, we sat and
ate all about food and a chacuzzie at the hotel.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Oh that's so nice. That's nice.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
But he was the one who figured it out. So
you got to have people around you to remind you
of these things.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
This is why you hire a professionals. This is why
you hire a professional.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Yes, to be clear, but they did have a wedding planner,
so it should have been a little less stressful for them.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yes, that's fair, except that she wasn't wearing the right Really.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Do you need to be or anything?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Nah, Okay, let's just not break the seal.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
That's where I'm out with it, okay, whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
You know, it seems like all convention has really gone
out the window as far as weddings go, and it's
like do whatever you want.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Well, there's still they I mean, I know it's a
rich house and it's on an a tucket, but they
still have a wedding at the house, right. They haven't
rented a venue, right, not going anywhere else, right, Like
it's all very homey, right in fact, like Greer kind
of chastises her friend for not staying at the house,
Like they have our hosting people. Therefore, anybody who came
in from out of town, who is in town invited
(21:23):
to their rehearsal dinner because it's a home.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Kind of weddings.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Right in that way, there's like a very intimate feel
to it, even though it's gigantic, right you know.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, I mean they could have done it like on
the rooftop.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
In New York City, right, They couldn't done it, right?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah? Yeah, they could have done anything.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Really, So, is there a book series that features protagonists
named Dash and Dolly?
Speaker 4 (21:50):
I mean it feels like there is in some kind
of like well, like you said, beach eating, but I don't.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Know, well there is, but it's Dash Hounds.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Oh, Dash and Dolly in a children's book series that
only has two books, I know, Pause and Wonder in
the Enchanted Forest and Pause and Pumpkin's Harvest Festival Adventure.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I'm so cute. I want to read about that Dash
and Dolly.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Way more than I want.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
To sounds like a dog, it does, Dash Dolly.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
That does sound actually my mom's white dog, I say
white stock.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
She was like pure white. Ended up named Dolly. Oh yeah.
We went through a lot of names for her but
ended up on Dolly.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
And I don't know how we got there because because
she was trying to do all of these like something
that I relates.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
The white, but it felt very like tired. And then
so she ended up with Dolly somehow. Then I got
her a white cat, pure white cat.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
She couldn't figure out a name now, so now she's
going through the whole same process. And she really landed
on zero right because zero in night May before Christmas,
it's white. And then also the candy bar zero, it
was like a flash in the panpas so delicious, my chocolate.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Then she was like, I just can't call a living
being zero. So it ended up with Ziggy.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Oh, okay, Atlanta Olympics mascot thing.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Ye, Ziggy okay, not the cartoon in the newspaper.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
No, not that one, not that one, the other thing
ZIGGI mm hmmm. He was a albino bangle. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I don't know why they call it Miami, but I
do remember from the office. Mindy Kalig's character was like
she was a writer for the show, but she was
also kind of like taking a little step back and
only going to do some writing and she wasn't going
to be in the episodes as much more anymore. And
(24:09):
so she's still writing for the show, but wasn't going
to be acting in it.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
And she was giving her.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Coats and she was like, I'm going to Miami because
she was dating a guy that was going to medical
school there, which they also have a very well regarded
medical school, okay, And somebody was like, anybody gonna tell
her Miami University is in Ohio because she didn't know.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
She thought she was going to Miami. Yeah, yeah, I
don't know why.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Yeah, it seems like well but yeah, yeah, which I
did find very funny that Goisha, the housekeeper, was mad.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
At Amelia for washing her own glass. She was like,
why would she do that? She was really offended, and
she goes, I don't go to the zoo and pet
the animals.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
For her, like as if that's what she does. She
pets the animals.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Yeah, that's just a benny, but it doesn't see and
those that's kind of like the point you have to
remember when you're thinking about her, like saving the ladybug. Huh, Right,
there's a she has a different respect, like if you
need to leave out the front door, like I'm going
to take you outside, Like she has a different thing
about the animals and about the insects and about the
(25:27):
the wildlife.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
But also there's no animals.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
In a show.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
She should understand that leaving it out the front door
is also or out the window, is giving it the
opportunity to fly where it would like to be, rather
than run the risk of it flying off her finger
in the house somewhere.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I mean, right, she had a lot of trust that
it was going to stay there.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I don't know she would know what she was in
her moment, you know, she was in her mood. Yeah,
she was in and that was it.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
So I was like, whose name should be first on
a wedding invitation or rehearsal invitation. Surely it's different. Well,
wedding invitations typically put the woman's name first, but may
not include her full name. But really it's the parent's
(26:24):
name who's first, because they're paying for it and technically
they're the hosts. Though I've never been to a wedding
where the parent was actually the host. Oh really, it
was always the bride and groom. Oh who were the hosts?
They like did the planning and that, Like maybe the
parents paid for it, but it was always the briden
(26:45):
groom who did.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Like, so like the invitation reflected that or was it
still the parents?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
My invitation definitely was my parents.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I don't I don't know that my
parents' names were even on it. I think it was
with they're with their families or with their parents, like
invite you to their wedding. But basically it's like who
pays for it, their name goes first. Yeah, okay, it's like, okay, well,
(27:12):
what about a rehearsal.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Those tend to be a little more laid back, a
little more casual, and typically are paid for by the
groom's family, right, so I can see, Okay, fine, they
put Benji's name first, even though Benji's family is paying
for all of it, all of it, right, wedding, all
(27:38):
of it. So when we didn't see their wedding invitation,
all we saw was their rehearsal dinner invitation and his
name was first. But that one tends to be a
little more casual. You may or may not send.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Out a formal invitation, right, right for that right, I
mean this one was a bigger one.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
This is this is not just a rehearsal. I mean
dinner is a big party. I mean it was like,
this is the intimate party for their before their wedding.
I can only imagine how enormous that wedding was. I know,
I ain't gonna be whatever.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
It seems like all convention has really gone out the
window as far as weddings go, and it's like, do
whatever you want. Also, Amelia may have been feeling a
bit of impostor syndrome in her relationship with Benji, and
I had just never really thought of impostor syndrome as
being something that could happen in a relationship.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
But it makes so much sense.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
It does because she she felt like she didn't love
him enough. She also felt like maybe she didn't quite
fit in his world and maybe she didn't cut you know,
she wasn't quite good enough for him because he did
this huge, over the top, borderline creepy thing of making
a painting of her, you know, like that he kept
secret from her, which obviously must have taken a lot
(28:57):
of time to do, and still somehow he kept it
secret from her, which kind of I don't have any
problem with making a gift or doing something that takes
a lot of time. You know, this one felt creepy
right a little bit, but a romantic relationship imposter syndrome.
This article from psych Central by Courtney Talloian was just
(29:22):
interesting and it kind of comes with the idea of perfection.
Like a lot of people who feel imposter syndrome feel
like they need to be perfectionists. You need to be
like perfect. You're constantly in the worry where that you
feel like incompetent or unworthy, you have a lot of
(29:42):
insecurity and self doubt. I mean, these are all the
kinds of things that you're dealing with. And I don't know,
maybe she should have had a relationship where she didn't
feel I don't know, it seems like it says something
about their relationship. I can't tell if it's her or
if it's.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Just unique to that kind of family situation.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Is it because it's that family situation or is it
because he's so devoted to her and she's not sure
that she feels the same way.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Or that he's not Maybe not, Maybe his expression of
love is just so kind of oohe gooey and romantic,
like his love language is different, and so she's starting
to second guess whether her love language is valuable right
the way that she loves right, you know, and that
it's okay to not be the oue guy one, right.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
It's okay to not be like the over the top,
to just be like present.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Right right, Like it's okay, and you know, not everybody
is going to be that ooey, guey, over the top
kind of lovey dovey, yes, and so you know it's
okay that he is.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
You know, she should feel comfortable receiving it, though to.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
The degree it takes a certain amount of self confidence
that maybe she doesn't have.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Not maybe when she's in the situation right right, like
how long has this doubt gone on.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
That's the question I would ask, when did this start?
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Does it come and go like every time you meet
his mother?
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Okay, well she's the problem, right, okay, But like, is
it like you' all are fine until you go back
to summerland, right, like? Or are you always having this
feeling uh huh like where it's never matched and you're
like ooh, but.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
You know, some people just aren't comfortable in their own
their own skin. It takes practice. I don't care how
old you are. It's going to take practice.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
That's fair, that's so fair.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Nobody ready for this.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
This is why being over forties awesome.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Honestly, yes, because no matter what insecurities you had in
your youth, you just get to a point where you
don't care so.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Much, no, and you can tell people and nobody ready,
you're It takes practice to get there. You're not going
to be comfortable taking all that OUI guey stuff when
that's not how you share love. And he is going
to feel unloaved because you're not uly guey, and you're
gonna go and work it out right, and you're gonna find.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
It break up and that's all so fine.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
And that's all so fine, you know, you'll decide to
do something else. But honestly, it's a nice little match
because he can bring a little bit of that so
the relationship right.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
And she can bring him down at it's actually a
really sweet thing if they can just learn to communicate, right.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
But I yeah, I think I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
As much as I want to put on that family road,
I feel a little imposter Cyndra.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Well, I mean that's fair because.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I'd put on that robe. But I still wash my glass.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Right exactly exactly, or at least put my glass in
the dishwasher.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I mean maybe at least that.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
And then you run into the whole conflict of the
thing of like, do I apologize to the quote unquote
help for washing the glass and explain to them that
I washed my own.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Glasses at my house? Yeah? Or are therefore.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Its habit or or you just receive the gifts or
you just received the gift. But how uncomfortable is that
for somebody who's never lived in that kind of situation.
I can see where the whole weekend would be fraught,
which is why honestly, having the home wedding was a
bad choice.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Maybe that was because it was a weird like if
she's not comfortable with that yet figuring out how to
like accept that this is this person's job.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yay, and thank you so much. I appreciate that. You
know what, it's a whole lot easier to not wash
the glass when.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
You don't have a kitchen.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Well, if you're in a hotel room, right, no kitchen,
you can just leave the glass and it's fine.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yep, but you know, you just I mean, it takes.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
It takes getting used to somebody doing the things for you.
I think so, like that's the amposter syndrome too, right,
like not feeling like not understanding how to operate in
that scheme.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Fair right, fair, you know, so.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
A little bit yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
I think the I think the house the house keeper
is a little sensitive, too sensitive, I should say, are
a little a little offended when she shouldn't be so offended.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Like she's just being a nice, decent person, and I'm
sorry that you work for people who are right or
titled or like.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
You know that she doesn't live with the same sort
of of you know, some same sort of people around
her doing this kind of thing, so you.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Know, wait, it's new to her. Just you know what, Okay, yeah,
don't take us all personally.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Oh my god, yes exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
You know what, if that house Gaper was super rich,
she'd buy a monkey.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yes, so mother son bonds, they don't have to be
so fraught as what Greer made it out to be.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I mean, now they are extenuating circumstances. I understand that,
but the way Greer is extenuating them is not No.
But Kate Stone Lombardi has a whole like, she wrote
a whole book about the mama's boy myth why keeping
our sons close actually makes them stronger. So I thought
(35:15):
this was really interesting. So, you know, we kind of
have this idea that if somebody's a mama's boy, they're
going to be weak or like not as not able
to form attachments with another woman very well. And you know,
she is kind of struggling with us, and she decided
to kind of evaluate her own relationship with her son
(35:37):
because she kept hearing, you know, you should pull away
from your son as they reached their teenage years a
little bit to let them grow into their masculinity, so
blah blah blah. And she was like, no, actually, I
don't agree with that I think it's homophobic nonsense. And
I'm like, oh, good for I like that, Yeah, that's it,
that's actually very smart.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
And then but then her son.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Got engaged, I was about to be married, and she
was like, oh, now I got to put all this
the test, like is he going to actually have like
this like good relationship with his spouse, like this new
woman in his life who was really like taking it over.
And she like really recognized you know, oh, he when
he's sick, he calls and talks to me, but he
(36:22):
already consulted his soon to be wife with you know
what he should do to feel better? Right, Like, I
don't know why he needs to consult with I mean
just consulting with another person, not necessarily another woman, just
another person in your life. And like, because sometimes when
you don't feel good, you don't think to take the tailanyl. Yeah,
(36:44):
somebody just says, you know, why don't you drink some
water or some let me make you some tea and
have some tailanyl, take a nap.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Have you eaten today?
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Right?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Like sometimes you can help.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Right, you know, you know what might feel good?
Speaker 1 (36:58):
A hot math, right, It doesn't necessarily have to come
from a woman. Men are not incapable of doing these
things inherently.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
No, but like calling your mom, right, you know.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Right, But she kind of felt the like, oh, I
wasn't his first call.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Oh you know, that was a little hard. But that
has so.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Much more to do with just being a parent, letting
go and watching them grow up.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I mean that that's true because whether her son was
engaged to a woman or a man, it would have
been the same. So she what I think Greer should
have done, and what this woman did was really try
and think of it as I'm gaining a daughter. This
is a new point in our relationship. It's going to
(37:48):
change and be different. And then she did write a
follow up article after that about like how it was
different than she thought it would be but it was
actually good. Yes, their relationship changed, Yeah, and it was
different and she had to have, you know, figure out
how to navigate this relationship with his new wife and
(38:10):
what did that look like and for her really worked out.
She really like was committed to nurturing a relationship with
her daughter in law, which I thought was great.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
And it's fine to not his initial go to.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah, so I'm like, oh, Career could really probably do
a good job of maybe she needs therapy, Well, maybe
go talk to somebody.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
About clearly she's feeling a little lonely and she's pulling
the kids in as surrogates.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
But you know, also, you know, it's funny though.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
I always heard like you can tell if a woman,
if a man's going to treat a woman right by
how he traces his mom, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
And that's what I always thought about with mom was
boys that.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Like you can see the respect, and if they're not
respectful of their mom, that is a red flag. Uh huh, Like,
you know, almost anything can be fixed if they're they're
respectful to their mom and their grandma and the women
and their family. Because then you're like, okay, well it
can be it can be managed. Other mean that though,
would be really hard, right, that's super inherent disrespect.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
No Yeah, well yeah, red flag but huge, huge, all right.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
So Jackie did end up watching the rest of The
Perfect Couple. We only watched the first episode to talk
about when we initially watched this, but I watched the
rest of it. I don't know that I enjoyed it,
but it was fine to have kind of on while
I was doing other things and I enjoyed it well enough, Jackie,
(39:45):
because I said I enjoyed it kind of well enough,
went and watched the rest of it, and then she
had some thoughts after she watched the rest of The
Perfect Couple, or as she called it, that dumb show, and.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
There was like, so I watch the end of the
dumb show to figure out.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Exactly what I thought it was going to be.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
That the biggest like Nicole Kidman, couldn't be the killer
because she had to be the one was the most innocent,
and she was the killer in the last one.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
She had to be the last. She can't be the
killer too in a row. She really can't.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
And I was like, I was like, no, I don't
think so. And I was like, it's Dakota Fanning. Oh,
clearly it's got to be.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Theota fan And I was maybe because I wasn't paying
as much attention because I was doing other things.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
I was surprised.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
I was like, Oh, that's it's not that, it's just
because it was Dakota Fanning.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
And I was like, she had a lot of.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Tours, Yeah, she had lean into her.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
She had a lot of bitchy Yeah, she had a
lot of.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Like press and I was like, that's too smaller role
for all the press I saw you do. It's like
when you're watching a procedural and then there's like a
guest star, yeah guilty, yeah every time exactly, that's the murderer.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
So I read Jeff there fbi I most wanted, which
the show was awful. It was so bad, But I
watched that episode because he was in it, and I'm like,
you knew he was gonna be the bad guy because yeah,
he was the guest star.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
He was a guest star like everybody, and so like
I was like, so big name, big name star, and
we're playing the side chick.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
It's the married chick, but the side no.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
So I had a feeling only because of that, okay,
And then when it turned out to be true, I
was like, well see, yeah, I knew it. Then I
went back to the election, okay, which is worse, and
I cried, thank you so much for joining us today.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
We know you make a choice when you listen to us.
We don't just come on the radio, and we really
do appreciate it. We have one more outtakes episode before
we're back with brand new, freshly recorded content, but it'll
all be never for heard stuff next time for you,
lots of it. We hope that you had a beautiful
(42:07):
new year. We hope that twenty twenty five goes well
for you and for us, and you know, whatever concerns
we might have about that, you know, we're hoping that
this is a little escape from whatever might be concerning
you this year. Tell a friend, it's more fun when
you can listen with a friend. And until next time,
(42:29):
be safe, be kind, and wash your hands.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
Bom bomb b
Wow, there's so much bonus episode stuff here. I just
looked at the time.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Of this, I was like, we have not even made
it to like anything.
Speaker 3 (00:20):
And even made it to the break yet that's fine.
Speaker 4 (00:25):
Oh maybe wait, this is just how we talk about
this episode. It's a weird episode, and we can do
a prologue and be like, this episode is not normal.
We had Champagne and therefore it's a little different.
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Enjoy I mean, or maybe I just break this into
two episodes.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Oh, part one Part two. Yes, our prologue is because
I don't know that I want to give this show two.
Speaker 4 (00:50):
Parts, because of the whole reason that the thing, Yeah,
what if we're not word we're boring, and then then.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Somebodyful think about our part one same.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I only think we're interesting because of the Champagne crapt
many ways. Okay, I think part two is a bonus
episode somewhere now, Yesna split the difference. Yes, we're gonna
have a whole bonus episode that's just show. Yes, because
we're minutes in and yes I haven't. I'm like, I
(01:23):
just got to the end of thoughts. I mean, wow, yeah, yeah, Okay,
welcome back to Killer Found, where we explore the intersection
of crime and entertainment. Every other week, I'm Christy and
today today, well, as you heard, we have some outtakes
for you all from one episode, all about our episode
(01:43):
from The Perfect Couple. We decided we had so much
to say about that show that it needed its own
second episode, but we didn't like it enough to make
it a part one and part two. We decided we
had to make the second part of The Perfect Couple
(02:05):
discussion and outtakes episode. And so here we are Welcome
to the new year. We're so happy that you're joining
us for this brand new content that we recorded a
little while ago, so we can have a little bit
of a break and you still get to get fresh content. So,
(02:27):
oh my gosh, there's so much of this. We have
lots of things to talk about. We talk about how
the house was a generic rich person. Of course, there
are flubs, because there are always flubs, and you know, Champagne.
We talk about whether some poor behavior was due to
misogyny or the person being an outsider. Not every show
(02:49):
has to be eight episodes long when it's a limited series.
We could just make movies of things too. That is
also okay. I think this might have done better as
a movie. We talk about naming homes, addictions to romantic partners, y'all,
don't break the seal?
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Are there?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Dash and Dolly books? We talk about the office a
little bit. All the zoologists do is you know, pet animals, right,
that's all they do, right, Imposter syndrome and a relationship.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
All kinds of stuff. Oh my gosh. Well, I do
hope that you enjoy these outtakes.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Somehow unique or somehow like I don't know, at.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
Least eye catching, because even the only thing I catching
was literally the space. I mean, the house is okay,
but really where the house is on that bay, yeah,
in that area, like that is beautiful, but like even
everything in that side the house was a little boring.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Yeah, it was just wasn't it was generic rich person.
It wasn't like interesting. Yeah, if you were gonna rent
an Airbnb in that area, that's what the house looking.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah, like the skoulder grade rich like we did.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yes, Like when you go to one of the model
homes in a new neighborhood, Yes, and they have done
every upgrade imaginable plus a little bit more because the
decorator did it right. Like it's nice, but it's not.
You don't walk in and say ooh, that's.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
Amazing, right, or it's interesting, Oh that's a style or.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
That huh no, because it's meant to appeal to as
many people as.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
Possible, right, Right, it's supposed to give you a generic
idea of the possibilities, right, But like their kitchen, very generic.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Honestly, I don't like all very high end but nothing spectacular.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:52):
It almost feels like, oh my gosh, I'm gonna get
myself in trouble.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
Y'all, don't at me. Okay.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
There's this particular type of high end that like is
high end, but it's not designer okay, And it's really
high end because of some sort of marketing, not because
it actually is better. And so there's this particular style,
(05:22):
and there's there's neighborhoods I can think of, and then
there's high end that almost people may not realize. If
you don't care about that design or the or some
sort of function or some sort of thing that really
is more expensive, you might not catch even that it's
high end because you know, but like it just feels
like a it feels like a fake high end, like
(05:45):
like a scam like they think it's high end and
the people who are like selling it or like Okay.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Oh goodie, I got you to pay two thousand dollars
more for the thing that's actually cheap.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Yeah, because like literally, like the only thing different here
is this one piece of molding and it's build a
rain Yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Right, Like that's what it felt like in the house.
And maybe that was.
Speaker 4 (06:12):
An intentional thing, but I didn't feel anything else drawing
me in, right except my criticism.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Okay, my criticism kept me awake.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Greer right winds too much Champagne.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Let me have another zup, you know, like Champagne coffeee.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
You know, it's a small down you. I can't decide
why the.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Nantucket police are being snarky towards Detective Henry.
Speaker 3 (06:51):
I was like, is it because she's a woman.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Partly it's that I think it's because she's from Boston.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
She's kind of average looking, she's expensive clothes. I feel
like they have been police officers in this little, tiny
place so long that they don't understand that you don't
have to have all these wealthy trappings to be like
good at your chop.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Yeah, but she is, she doesn't She's not part of
their department. She comes in from like from Hyannas or whatever.
I think a little bit of it is you don't
you're not from here.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Yes, I think that's prreat.
Speaker 4 (07:28):
Because Nantucket is very like every time if they have
to bring somebody else in. First of all, they have
a pr nightmare because somebody has been killed on the island.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
And the second of all, then then it's like.
Speaker 4 (07:38):
Too big and the police department gets kicked out of
their own jurisdiction.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
By a woman.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Yeah, buy a woman, you know, and it's like, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
A woman not even dressed fancy.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
No.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
But also there is a little bit of that just
Massachusetts way, okay, A little bit of that is just
very like normal, all fun. A little bit of just
normal like ribbing right like and like at that at
the desk, like she's sitting there and he's like trying
to give her the things and but I will take
the donut and they have a nice little interchange.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
It's like a little bit of normal to be to
be gruff, okay. And there's actually no deep hard feelings.
Speaker 4 (08:20):
Okay, sometimes good okay, maybe a little double entendre, but
in general.
Speaker 2 (08:25):
Just a little that's just kind of how they are.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Yeah, okay, yeah, so it might be that a little
of that I can get behind that.
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, I mean she takes the donut that was that.
Speaker 1 (08:35):
Was really funny. That you can just make the story
more concise. Yes, you can make fewer episodes.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, I mean it's hard. I know.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
This this is a you know, this is a brand
new format. I mean, this whole thing is a brand
new format. The idea that the TV so shows are
not serial, right, that are not episodic. Yeah, that it's
actually one long story. It's a soap opera in that way, right,
But it's not because it's more condensed. It's a whole
(09:08):
new format.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
I know that.
Speaker 4 (09:10):
I read a whole article about this on the New
York Times talking about how like it is interesting to
watch them forge a new entertainment format and some are
crushing it and others really fall flat. And it's kind
of like if made in a different format, it probably
would have been a home run. But trying out these
(09:32):
stories and these things that they want to tell in
these different formats where you have like this extended episode
but it's not episodic, but it's too long to be
a movie. But it's not really a soap opera and
dropping it all at once.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
It's hard. It's a weird new thing.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
It is hard. And I would say about sixty percent
of these limited series that I've seen would really benefit
from just being a movie.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Yep, yep, agreed, Like, just.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
You know what, if you have to cut stuff out
to get down to one hundred and twenty minutes, it's
really gonna be a much more concise, compelling story. You
don't have to save something exciting or interesting for the
next episode or have filler to get to the cliffhanger
(10:26):
at the end of the episode. Just make it a movie.
Speaker 4 (10:28):
Just make it a movie, or make it make it
that long or a little longer, like directors cut long and.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Cut it into four or five episodes.
Speaker 4 (10:35):
Sure, we're used to this now, Yeah, we're used to
these very short limited series, even three or four episodes.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Yeah, Like, okay, I have to make it a movie.
I have to make it three hours long. Okay, make
it a limited series, make it three episodes long.
Speaker 4 (10:49):
Absolutely, just do that. It's totally fine. It's totally fine.
And let episodic be episodic, right right, Like, for instance,
right now in CIS origins, crushing it. Okay, fan freakingtastic.
Oh good, it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (11:06):
I'm so glad that it's good. Oh, it's so good.
Speaker 4 (11:09):
But you know, they're holding true to the episodic with
the whole arc, but they're they're injecting a little bit
more of a big arc, right, so they're blending a
bit of that whole streaming idea.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Uh huh, that's good.
Speaker 4 (11:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
So when it drops all it once later on in
life and people go.
Speaker 4 (11:26):
Back and watch it, I think it's gonna I think
it's gonna hold on.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
People are thinking about that.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, well, because that's what's next, right, Like, this is
how your shows live on. This is how you make
money off of your shows in the future.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Yeah, because like I will watch things on syndication. My
kids don't know what that word is.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
No, they do not.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
They know They ask is it streaming? Right, And that's
basically syndication syndication. It's just on demand.
Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yes, so you just don't have to wait for TBS
to run the marathon.
Speaker 4 (12:00):
Okay, But also, isn't it lovely to click through TV channels?
Speaker 2 (12:04):
I still love this.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
I mean I love this because guess what I cannot
put I cannot at all produce enough good ideas.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Uh huh.
Speaker 4 (12:15):
So you asked me what I want to watch, and
I'm like, I don't know. I won't think of the thing.
Speaker 5 (12:19):
But if I'm clicking through and I come to Signs
of a Psychopath, I'm like, I'm never gonna think to
go is there any show about the Signs of a Psychopath?
Speaker 3 (12:32):
No?
Speaker 2 (12:32):
No, I'm gonna click through and find that on ID.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
You're right, like, okay, so I think the new version
of clicking through channels is clicking through the for you
recommended for you based on your algorithm on the different
streaming site. Yeah, because I'll be like, oh, I did
not know that that was the thing, and they'll serve
me up, you know, a eight year old TV show
(12:56):
and I'm like, oh, well that sounds fun. I'll watch
an episode of that. Like are you watching the entire
eight seasons of The Mentalists?
Speaker 3 (13:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (13:05):
Right, yeah, yes, yes, I just need to get better
at that.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
But the surprise of finding something and just turning it on.
Speaker 4 (13:14):
And clicking back and forth, because see I watched the
Little Signs of the Psychopath and then I watched The
Little Oceans eleven.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
Oh okay, when the commercials came on.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
You're like, I flip back and forth.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
I like the most of television.
Speaker 2 (13:30):
It's perfect.
Speaker 4 (13:32):
Chef's kiss, it's great, all right, I still have more thought, Yes,
thoughts so much bonus episode.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
Yes, so the home has a name summer Land. Oh yes,
I'm like, why do we name home? I know lots
of people who do that.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
Really, Yeah, yeah, they named their homes, name their homes,
name their cars.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
I don't do this.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I say, I've named my before.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Yeah, i'd ever done any of this.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
Nothing.
Speaker 2 (14:04):
Oh yeah, it's kind of interesting.
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Huh.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Yeah, Like I know people who do well. I wonder
if that's having a military mindset. If you name your home,
you get a little.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Attached to it.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Mm hmmm.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
I mean because like they're very attacked.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
This is a family home that's been in her husband's
family time, and I'm like.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
That's something I don't have, right, I would love to.
I would love to have head. I tried to for
my own family, right, but then life was just different.
Speaker 3 (14:36):
Right, that's interesting.
Speaker 1 (14:38):
See, And I can't bring myself to name the house
that we're in now because I can like kind of
see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
I love my home. I do.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
This is the longest I've ever lived in this one
place ever in my entire life.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I love it. I don't.
Speaker 1 (14:53):
I don't want to move out, but I know that
the day that I move out is closer than when
I moved in, right, Like, once the kids are out
of the house, and I can kind of look forward
to the what is next when we move out of
this house? Yeah, you know what is what is the
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next thing? And I kind of look forward to that.
Not that I look forward to my kids being grown
and often things, but I can. It feels less sad
about thinking my kids not living under the same roof
as me when I.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Can think about all of the fun things that I
can go and do.
Speaker 4 (15:30):
Yeah, it's right when you think you're not going to
be under the roof either, right, like exactly graduating season,
that's right, exactly.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
So I mean maybe, like maybe that's why I can't
name my house. Well and wait, I didn't think that
we would be in this house this long, so I
didn't name it when we moved in. Yeah, yeah, but
I guess so it seems really pretentious.
Speaker 4 (15:54):
Right, I need to like make a make an entry
like it's But if you're on the bucket.
Speaker 1 (15:59):
But I mean, like, if I had a house on
Nantucket and it came with a name, I would absolutely
call it that name me too, if I like me to.
Speaker 3 (16:07):
Somebody is like, you've.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Won, you know, a billion dollars in the lottery, and
I'm like, I bought summer land.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
Yes, we're going to summer lands.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
That sounds fun, It makes it fun.
Speaker 3 (16:20):
Yeah, okay, I'll do that.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Let's do that when we win. Yeah, well we'll buy
some summer land.
Speaker 3 (16:27):
Huh.
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Might forearn a little something too. Amelia laments that she
isn't addicted to Benji, and I'm like, what have harlequnfance
novels done to our expectations?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Everything she said?
Speaker 4 (17:16):
And I was like her her friend was good to
her because she understood that that was not the moment
to have a therapy lesson, but still put her at
east and I thought, well done, well done friend, But
oh my gosh, a therapy lesson is indeed needed, because.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Ah, yeah, there's so many thoughts I had about though.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
I mean, I was like, Okay, I get it well,
and maybe the weekend of your wedding you want to
be like have that addicted to your future spouse feeling,
but like overall it's really kind of unhealthy.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, it's like like codependent.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
It's just I mean, Dick's did tears.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
I mean, I think the problem is she's she's trying
to describe something else, right, Yeah, that's.
Speaker 2 (18:08):
Going on with her.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
But also also, yeah, I think you you don't want
to be addicted, means you're not actually thinking rationally at all, right, right,
we don't.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
Want to be there either, no, no, no.
Speaker 4 (18:22):
And also, weddings and all are actually more stressful. They're
not fairy tales for most people because they are stressful.
They do include family strife, they do include a lot
of like stuff going on, you're exhausted, right and so
and so the idea because nobody's just doing it for
you and then you show up to this beautiful thing
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and then do the thing.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
No, there's just so.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Much work, right, it's far less glamorous in the moment.
When it's glamorous is when you look back at the
photos and show them off.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
That's why it's glamorous. And I don't know.
Speaker 1 (18:56):
Maybe maybe it's glamorous. I earn all that glamorous student
photographer take pictures of my wedding, but still poor, well.
Speaker 4 (19:06):
But still likely looking back right, like, yeah, all of
the things.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I don't know. In the moment, I don't know. It
was exhausting. I found it exhausting.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
Yes, it was exhausting. It was exhausting, but.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
I had I had some good people at the time
kind of give me that advice.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Oh good.
Speaker 4 (19:19):
So like my cater caterer, he was not his first rodeo,
and he was like, you're going to be tired.
Speaker 2 (19:27):
You're also going to be pulled away.
Speaker 4 (19:29):
So I'm gonna you know, we're doing the buffet, don't
rush to it.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Don't worry.
Speaker 4 (19:34):
There will be an entire picnic basket that's built for
you and your husband, and that will be a to
go of everything.
Speaker 2 (19:42):
That's on the buffet. Oh that's so.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Even though we went and picked a few things because
it was so pretty, we knew we had dinner afterwards. Yeah,
and so he just did it as part of it.
He was like, by the way, so this is this
and that's.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
Where that is so smart.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
Smart. I would have never asked. I would have never
thought to ask, because in everyday.
Speaker 4 (20:02):
Life, is there anything that's going to keep me from
an Italian buffet? And by buffet, I mean like fancy
dancy Italian like situation. I'm like, know me and pasa. Yeah, yeah,
but no not that day. No, No, we sat and
ate all about food and a chacuzzie at the hotel.
Speaker 3 (20:20):
Oh that's so nice. That's nice.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
But he was the one who figured it out. So
you got to have people around you to remind you
of these things.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
You know.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
This is why you hire a professionals. This is why
you hire a professional.
Speaker 4 (20:33):
Yes, to be clear, but they did have a wedding planner,
so it should have been a little less stressful for them.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
Yes, that's fair, except that she wasn't wearing the right Really.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
Do you need to be or anything?
Speaker 2 (20:47):
Nah, Okay, let's just not break the seal.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
That's where I'm out with it, okay, whatever.
Speaker 1 (20:54):
You know, it seems like all convention has really gone
out the window as far as weddings go, and it's
like do whatever you want.
Speaker 4 (21:01):
Well, there's still they I mean, I know it's a
rich house and it's on an a tucket, but they
still have a wedding at the house, right. They haven't
rented a venue, right, not going anywhere else, right, Like
it's all very homey, right in fact, like Greer kind
of chastises her friend for not staying at the house,
Like they have our hosting people. Therefore, anybody who came
in from out of town, who is in town invited
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to their rehearsal dinner because it's a home.
Speaker 2 (21:27):
Kind of weddings.
Speaker 4 (21:28):
Right in that way, there's like a very intimate feel
to it, even though it's gigantic, right you know.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
Yeah, I mean they could have done it like on
the rooftop.
Speaker 2 (21:37):
In New York City, right, They couldn't done it, right?
Speaker 3 (21:40):
Yeah? Yeah, they could have done anything.
Speaker 1 (21:42):
Really, So, is there a book series that features protagonists
named Dash and Dolly?
Speaker 4 (21:50):
I mean it feels like there is in some kind
of like well, like you said, beach eating, but I don't.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Know, well there is, but it's Dash Hounds.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Oh, Dash and Dolly in a children's book series that
only has two books, I know, Pause and Wonder in
the Enchanted Forest and Pause and Pumpkin's Harvest Festival Adventure.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
I'm so cute. I want to read about that Dash
and Dolly.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
Way more than I want.
Speaker 2 (22:24):
To sounds like a dog, it does, Dash Dolly.
Speaker 4 (22:29):
That does sound actually my mom's white dog, I say
white stock.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
She was like pure white. Ended up named Dolly. Oh yeah.
We went through a lot of names for her but
ended up on Dolly.
Speaker 4 (22:42):
And I don't know how we got there because because
she was trying to do all of these like something
that I relates.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
The white, but it felt very like tired. And then
so she ended up with Dolly somehow. Then I got
her a white cat, pure white cat.
Speaker 4 (23:00):
She couldn't figure out a name now, so now she's
going through the whole same process. And she really landed
on zero right because zero in night May before Christmas,
it's white. And then also the candy bar zero, it
was like a flash in the panpas so delicious, my chocolate.
Speaker 2 (23:18):
Then she was like, I just can't call a living
being zero. So it ended up with Ziggy.
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Oh, okay, Atlanta Olympics mascot thing.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
Ye, Ziggy okay, not the cartoon in the newspaper.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
No, not that one, not that one, the other thing
ZIGGI mm hmmm. He was a albino bangle. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
I don't know why they call it Miami, but I
do remember from the office. Mindy Kalig's character was like
she was a writer for the show, but she was
also kind of like taking a little step back and
only going to do some writing and she wasn't going
to be in the episodes as much more anymore. And
(24:09):
so she's still writing for the show, but wasn't going
to be acting in it.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
And she was giving her.
Speaker 1 (24:15):
Coats and she was like, I'm going to Miami because
she was dating a guy that was going to medical
school there, which they also have a very well regarded
medical school, okay, And somebody was like, anybody gonna tell
her Miami University is in Ohio because she didn't know.
Speaker 2 (24:34):
She thought she was going to Miami. Yeah, yeah, I
don't know why.
Speaker 4 (24:39):
Yeah, it seems like well but yeah, yeah, which I
did find very funny that Goisha, the housekeeper, was mad.
Speaker 1 (24:48):
At Amelia for washing her own glass. She was like,
why would she do that? She was really offended, and
she goes, I don't go to the zoo and pet
the animals.
Speaker 2 (24:58):
For her, like as if that's what she does. She
pets the animals.
Speaker 4 (25:04):
Yeah, that's just a benny, but it doesn't see and
those that's kind of like the point you have to
remember when you're thinking about her, like saving the ladybug. Huh, Right,
there's a she has a different respect, like if you
need to leave out the front door, like I'm going
to take you outside, Like she has a different thing
about the animals and about the insects and about the
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the wildlife.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
But also there's no animals.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
In a show.
Speaker 1 (25:30):
She should understand that leaving it out the front door
is also or out the window, is giving it the
opportunity to fly where it would like to be, rather
than run the risk of it flying off her finger
in the house somewhere.
Speaker 2 (25:48):
I mean, right, she had a lot of trust that
it was going to stay there.
Speaker 3 (25:52):
I don't know why.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I don't know she would know what she was in
her moment, you know, she was in her mood. Yeah,
she was in and that was it.
Speaker 1 (26:02):
So I was like, whose name should be first on
a wedding invitation or rehearsal invitation. Surely it's different. Well,
wedding invitations typically put the woman's name first, but may
not include her full name. But really it's the parent's
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name who's first, because they're paying for it and technically
they're the hosts. Though I've never been to a wedding
where the parent was actually the host. Oh really, it
was always the bride and groom. Oh who were the hosts?
They like did the planning and that, Like maybe the
parents paid for it, but it was always the briden
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groom who did.
Speaker 4 (26:45):
Like, so like the invitation reflected that or was it
still the parents?
Speaker 2 (26:50):
My invitation definitely was my parents.
Speaker 1 (26:52):
Okay, yeah, yeah, I don't I don't know that my
parents' names were even on it. I think it was
with they're with their families or with their parents, like
invite you to their wedding. But basically it's like who
pays for it, their name goes first. Yeah, okay, it's like, okay, well,
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what about a rehearsal.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
Those tend to be a little more laid back, a
little more casual, and typically are paid for by the
groom's family, right, so I can see, Okay, fine, they
put Benji's name first, even though Benji's family is paying
for all of it, all of it, right, wedding, all
(27:38):
of it. So when we didn't see their wedding invitation,
all we saw was their rehearsal dinner invitation and his
name was first. But that one tends to be a
little more casual. You may or may not send.
Speaker 4 (27:51):
Out a formal invitation, right, right for that right, I
mean this one was a bigger one.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
This is this is not just a rehearsal. I mean
dinner is a big party. I mean it was like,
this is the intimate party for their before their wedding.
I can only imagine how enormous that wedding was. I know,
I ain't gonna be whatever.
Speaker 3 (28:12):
You know.
Speaker 1 (28:12):
It seems like all convention has really gone out the
window as far as weddings go, and it's like, do
whatever you want. Also, Amelia may have been feeling a
bit of impostor syndrome in her relationship with Benji, and
I had just never really thought of impostor syndrome as
being something that could happen in a relationship.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
But it makes so much sense.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
It does because she she felt like she didn't love
him enough. She also felt like maybe she didn't quite
fit in his world and maybe she didn't cut you know,
she wasn't quite good enough for him because he did
this huge, over the top, borderline creepy thing of making
a painting of her, you know, like that he kept
secret from her, which obviously must have taken a lot
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of time to do, and still somehow he kept it
secret from her, which kind of I don't have any
problem with making a gift or doing something that takes
a lot of time. You know, this one felt creepy
right a little bit, but a romantic relationship imposter syndrome.
This article from psych Central by Courtney Talloian was just
(29:22):
interesting and it kind of comes with the idea of perfection.
Like a lot of people who feel imposter syndrome feel
like they need to be perfectionists. You need to be
like perfect. You're constantly in the worry where that you
feel like incompetent or unworthy, you have a lot of
(29:42):
insecurity and self doubt. I mean, these are all the
kinds of things that you're dealing with. And I don't know,
maybe she should have had a relationship where she didn't
feel I don't know, it seems like it says something
about their relationship. I can't tell if it's her or
if it's.
Speaker 4 (30:00):
Just unique to that kind of family situation.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Is it because it's that family situation or is it
because he's so devoted to her and she's not sure
that she feels the same way.
Speaker 4 (30:12):
Or that he's not Maybe not, Maybe his expression of
love is just so kind of oohe gooey and romantic,
like his love language is different, and so she's starting
to second guess whether her love language is valuable right
the way that she loves right, you know, and that
it's okay to not be the oue guy one, right.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
It's okay to not be like the over the top,
to just be like present.
Speaker 4 (30:37):
Right right, Like it's okay, and you know, not everybody
is going to be that ooey, guey, over the top
kind of lovey dovey, yes, and so you know it's
okay that he is.
Speaker 2 (30:48):
You know, she should feel comfortable receiving it, though to.
Speaker 1 (30:52):
The degree it takes a certain amount of self confidence
that maybe she doesn't have.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Not maybe when she's in the situation right right, like
how long has this doubt gone on.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
That's the question I would ask, when did this start?
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Does it come and go like every time you meet
his mother?
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Okay, well she's the problem, right, okay, But like, is
it like you' all are fine until you go back
to summerland, right, like? Or are you always having this
feeling uh huh like where it's never matched and you're
like ooh, but.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
You know, some people just aren't comfortable in their own
their own skin. It takes practice. I don't care how
old you are. It's going to take practice.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
That's fair, that's so fair.
Speaker 2 (31:34):
Nobody ready for this.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
This is why being over forties awesome.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Honestly, yes, because no matter what insecurities you had in
your youth, you just get to a point where you
don't care so.
Speaker 4 (31:46):
Much, no, and you can tell people and nobody ready,
you're It takes practice to get there. You're not going
to be comfortable taking all that OUI guey stuff when
that's not how you share love. And he is going
to feel unloaved because you're not uly guey, and you're
gonna go and work it out right, and you're gonna find.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
It break up and that's all so fine.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
And that's all so fine, you know, you'll decide to
do something else. But honestly, it's a nice little match
because he can bring a little bit of that so
the relationship right.
Speaker 2 (32:15):
And she can bring him down at it's actually a
really sweet thing if they can just learn to communicate, right.
Speaker 3 (32:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
But I yeah, I think I don't know.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
As much as I want to put on that family road,
I feel a little imposter Cyndra.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
Well, I mean that's fair because.
Speaker 2 (32:30):
I'd put on that robe. But I still wash my glass.
Speaker 1 (32:33):
Right exactly exactly, or at least put my glass in
the dishwasher.
Speaker 2 (32:38):
I mean maybe at least that.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
And then you run into the whole conflict of the
thing of like, do I apologize to the quote unquote
help for washing the glass and explain to them that
I washed my own.
Speaker 3 (32:52):
Glasses at my house? Yeah? Or are therefore.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Its habit or or you just receive the gifts or
you just received the gift. But how uncomfortable is that
for somebody who's never lived in that kind of situation.
I can see where the whole weekend would be fraught,
which is why honestly, having the home wedding was a
bad choice.
Speaker 4 (33:12):
Maybe that was because it was a weird like if
she's not comfortable with that yet figuring out how to
like accept that this is this person's job.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Yay, and thank you so much. I appreciate that. You
know what, it's a whole lot easier to not wash
the glass when.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
You don't have a kitchen.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Well, if you're in a hotel room, right, no kitchen,
you can just leave the glass and it's fine.
Speaker 2 (33:35):
Yep, but you know, you just I mean, it takes.
Speaker 4 (33:37):
It takes getting used to somebody doing the things for you.
I think so, like that's the amposter syndrome too, right,
like not feeling like not understanding how to operate in
that scheme.
Speaker 3 (33:49):
Fair right, fair, you know, so.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
A little bit yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 4 (33:53):
I think the I think the house the house keeper
is a little sensitive, too sensitive, I should say, are
a little a little offended when she shouldn't be so offended.
Speaker 1 (34:06):
Like she's just being a nice, decent person, and I'm
sorry that you work for people who are right or
titled or like.
Speaker 4 (34:14):
You know that she doesn't live with the same sort
of of you know, some same sort of people around
her doing this kind of thing, so you.
Speaker 2 (34:22):
Know, wait, it's new to her. Just you know what, Okay, yeah,
don't take us all personally.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
Oh my god, yes exactly.
Speaker 2 (34:33):
You know what, if that house Gaper was super rich,
she'd buy a monkey.
Speaker 1 (34:39):
Yes, so mother son bonds, they don't have to be
so fraught as what Greer made it out to be.
Speaker 3 (34:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
I mean, now they are extenuating circumstances. I understand that,
but the way Greer is extenuating them is not No.
But Kate Stone Lombardi has a whole like, she wrote
a whole book about the mama's boy myth why keeping
our sons close actually makes them stronger. So I thought
(35:15):
this was really interesting. So, you know, we kind of
have this idea that if somebody's a mama's boy, they're
going to be weak or like not as not able
to form attachments with another woman very well. And you know,
she is kind of struggling with us, and she decided
to kind of evaluate her own relationship with her son
(35:37):
because she kept hearing, you know, you should pull away
from your son as they reached their teenage years a
little bit to let them grow into their masculinity, so
blah blah blah. And she was like, no, actually, I
don't agree with that I think it's homophobic nonsense. And
I'm like, oh, good for I like that, Yeah, that's it,
that's actually very smart.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:57):
And then but then her son.
Speaker 1 (36:00):
Got engaged, I was about to be married, and she
was like, oh, now I got to put all this
the test, like is he going to actually have like
this like good relationship with his spouse, like this new
woman in his life who was really like taking it over.
And she like really recognized you know, oh, he when
he's sick, he calls and talks to me, but he
(36:22):
already consulted his soon to be wife with you know
what he should do to feel better? Right, Like, I
don't know why he needs to consult with I mean
just consulting with another person, not necessarily another woman, just
another person in your life. And like, because sometimes when
you don't feel good, you don't think to take the tailanyl. Yeah,
(36:44):
somebody just says, you know, why don't you drink some
water or some let me make you some tea and
have some tailanyl, take a nap.
Speaker 3 (36:52):
Have you eaten today?
Speaker 4 (36:54):
Right?
Speaker 2 (36:54):
Like sometimes you can help.
Speaker 3 (36:56):
Right, you know, you know what might feel good?
Speaker 1 (36:58):
A hot math, right, It doesn't necessarily have to come
from a woman. Men are not incapable of doing these
things inherently.
Speaker 2 (37:09):
No, but like calling your mom, right, you know.
Speaker 1 (37:12):
Right, But she kind of felt the like, oh, I
wasn't his first call.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Oh you know, that was a little hard. But that
has so.
Speaker 4 (37:21):
Much more to do with just being a parent, letting
go and watching them grow up.
Speaker 1 (37:26):
I mean that that's true because whether her son was
engaged to a woman or a man, it would have
been the same. So she what I think Greer should
have done, and what this woman did was really try
and think of it as I'm gaining a daughter. This
is a new point in our relationship. It's going to
(37:48):
change and be different. And then she did write a
follow up article after that about like how it was
different than she thought it would be but it was
actually good. Yes, their relationship changed, Yeah, and it was
different and she had to have, you know, figure out
how to navigate this relationship with his new wife and
(38:10):
what did that look like and for her really worked out.
She really like was committed to nurturing a relationship with
her daughter in law, which I thought was great.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
And it's fine to not his initial go to.
Speaker 1 (38:24):
Yeah, so I'm like, oh, Career could really probably do
a good job of maybe she needs therapy, Well, maybe
go talk to somebody.
Speaker 4 (38:32):
About clearly she's feeling a little lonely and she's pulling
the kids in as surrogates.
Speaker 2 (38:39):
But you know, also, you know, it's funny though.
Speaker 4 (38:42):
I always heard like you can tell if a woman,
if a man's going to treat a woman right by
how he traces his mom, you know.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
And that's what I always thought about with mom was
boys that.
Speaker 4 (38:51):
Like you can see the respect, and if they're not
respectful of their mom, that is a red flag. Uh huh, Like,
you know, almost anything can be fixed if they're they're
respectful to their mom and their grandma and the women
and their family. Because then you're like, okay, well it
can be it can be managed. Other mean that though,
would be really hard, right, that's super inherent disrespect.
Speaker 3 (39:13):
No Yeah, well yeah, red flag but huge, huge, all right.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
So Jackie did end up watching the rest of The
Perfect Couple. We only watched the first episode to talk
about when we initially watched this, but I watched the
rest of it. I don't know that I enjoyed it,
but it was fine to have kind of on while
I was doing other things and I enjoyed it well enough, Jackie,
(39:45):
because I said I enjoyed it kind of well enough,
went and watched the rest of it, and then she
had some thoughts after she watched the rest of The
Perfect Couple, or as she called it, that dumb show, and.
Speaker 4 (39:58):
There was like, so I watch the end of the
dumb show to figure out.
Speaker 2 (40:03):
Exactly what I thought it was going to be.
Speaker 4 (40:05):
That the biggest like Nicole Kidman, couldn't be the killer
because she had to be the one was the most innocent,
and she was the killer in the last one.
Speaker 2 (40:12):
She had to be the last. She can't be the
killer too in a row. She really can't.
Speaker 4 (40:19):
And I was like, I was like, no, I don't
think so. And I was like, it's Dakota Fanning. Oh,
clearly it's got to be.
Speaker 1 (40:26):
Theota fan And I was maybe because I wasn't paying
as much attention because I was doing other things.
Speaker 3 (40:31):
I was surprised.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
I was like, Oh, that's it's not that, it's just
because it was Dakota Fanning.
Speaker 2 (40:35):
And I was like, she had a lot of.
Speaker 3 (40:37):
Tours, Yeah, she had lean into her.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
She had a lot of bitchy Yeah, she had a
lot of.
Speaker 4 (40:41):
Like press and I was like, that's too smaller role
for all the press I saw you do. It's like
when you're watching a procedural and then there's like a
guest star, yeah guilty, yeah every time exactly, that's the murderer.
Speaker 2 (40:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
So I read Jeff there fbi I most wanted, which
the show was awful. It was so bad, But I
watched that episode because he was in it, and I'm like,
you knew he was gonna be the bad guy because yeah,
he was the guest star.
Speaker 4 (41:14):
He was a guest star like everybody, and so like
I was like, so big name, big name star, and
we're playing the side chick.
Speaker 2 (41:22):
It's the married chick, but the side no.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (41:26):
So I had a feeling only because of that, okay,
And then when it turned out to be true, I
was like, well see, yeah, I knew it. Then I
went back to the election, okay, which is worse, and
I cried, thank you so much for joining us today.
Speaker 1 (41:45):
We know you make a choice when you listen to us.
We don't just come on the radio, and we really
do appreciate it. We have one more outtakes episode before
we're back with brand new, freshly recorded content, but it'll
all be never for heard stuff next time for you,
lots of it. We hope that you had a beautiful
(42:07):
new year. We hope that twenty twenty five goes well
for you and for us, and you know, whatever concerns
we might have about that, you know, we're hoping that
this is a little escape from whatever might be concerning
you this year. Tell a friend, it's more fun when
you can listen with a friend. And until next time,
(42:29):
be safe, be kind, and wash your hands.
Speaker 2 (42:32):
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