August 31, 2023 • 51 mins
Sometimes, you want to try to do something that you haven’t done in a while just to see if it’s as fun as you remember. We did just that when we played a Hunt a Killer game just like in our first episode! The Nancy Drew colab, Mystery at Magnolia Gardens, was a great time and here is our SPOILER-FREE game play with discussion about the impact of Nancy Drew, why representation matters, and some VERY poisonous plants.
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(00:09):
Welcome back to Killer Fane, wherewe explore the intersection of crime and entertainment
every other week. I'm Christy andI'm Jack, and we're so glad that
you're back with us today. Today, I'm so excited. We are playing
a game. We haven't done this, you know, a hot minute.
A hot minute meaning like our firstepisode, I played a game. We
did. We played the first twoepisodes, and then we played a couple
(00:33):
of games. Yeah, a littlebit of year. Yeah, that first
year really and I all know thatit's been literally years since we played a
game. Yeah, but it's fun. I think we know what we're doing
better, you know, like whenwe first hold on because when weirst started,
no, not only like we didwe have a unique idea to cover
(00:54):
like crimey entertainment. We weren't goingto be like true crime investigators. Right
now, we're like cover crime inentertainment, right, crimey stuff, but
fun stuff. Okay, Well,anyway, I bring away thought, oh
games, you know, and thenwe were like, how do you do
that? How I don't understand?And we did not have bad not gonna
tell you we did not have bad. No, it was fun and it
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was fun. But I think weI think we're you know, even more
refined about how we're going to approachthis today. Absolutely. Well, you
know, it's more accessible when youwatch a show because the audience can also
watch and appreciate it if it's somethingthey've seen or if they've or want to
see something, then they can havea little more context and it's more fun
that way. And we just haven'tdone a game in a lot because it's
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hard, you know, like wewould have to like make a real big
plan to try to get people toplay this game first and talk about it.
And you know, we don't reallydo a video, so like you
can't you know, see the situationthat we're in. So we're going to
try to which is fine because we'redoing this. Oh yeah, it kind
of early. No, you don'twant to see us or you don't know
maybe a person we look fine inperson. Video cameras would not be kind
(02:07):
at this hour. No, No, Like, you know, I think
you're beautiful, no matter what.Agreed ditto. I think we're beautiful.
And I think if anybody was sittinghere, they'd say, oh, y'all
are beautiful. We're just talking aboutthe issues. Video cameras, yes,
that's it, right. Video camerasare unkind. They are to me,
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they're so unkind, all right.So we did, as we mentioned,
we started our podcast with a HuntedKiller subscription box. Yes we did.
And that was all that they didat that time, Yes, which was
super fun. It was super funand interesting, but a little confusing,
and you had that you couldn't solveit all in one sitting. No,
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you had to remember what you didthe time of hot right, or you
make yourself notes and review and dothe do the things and you would get
and the boxes would build upon oneanother. But now they have more than
just subscriptions. They have entire mysteryboxes that are solvable in one contained units.
(03:10):
Yeah, sixty to ninety minutes isas uh huh, which is we'll
see, which is super great.You know, Like the subscription, what
I found was I remembered and Imade good notes about the things that I
sort of investigated, and you didthe same, but I didn't quite always
grasp the clues that you had discoveredas well. Right, And so doing
it together I think, in likeone person getting the subscription and doing it
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themselves probably more fun, not becauseit's not more fun to play with a
friend, but because your brain connectsit a little better. Right, you
were looking at everything, you know, So I'll play with more people and
having one person document everybody's yes,so that it's a little bit more if
you have a little ownership over allthe clues. Right, That's what I
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realized we had to do, isI had to have some ownership or your
clues so that I would really helpconnect the dots the next night. Yeah,
yeah, I think this is moreour speed. I think this is
more our speed. I think Ithink a lot of people are going to
really enjoy this. Yeah, andI think we're going to enjoy it.
I'm so looking forward to I mean, we're going to talk about that just
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a minute. We'd really like tothink Hunt of Killer because they provided this
game to us, so you know, I kind of feel like we've arrived
a little bit because they came andsaid, hey, would you like this,
and we're like absolutely. We wouldescape room in a box. Yes,
it's sort of situation. It's notexactly like you don't explode after a
(04:41):
certain amount of time or whatever.Yeah, we had to have played one
like, yeah, we played anescape room in a box that wasting Yeah,
it was. It was fun.We played. We had there were
several of them in the in theincluded in the one box, and that
was pretty fun. I enjoyed it. Bought it on clearance. Gotta love
that. But you but speaking ofdiscounts, Yes, discounts, Thank you,
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we are briefly going to do ournormal quote unquote format. Okay, yeah,
but we're gonna do it here beforebreak. So and because then our
break is gonna be us gonna bebreaking into this ba I mean, pun
was very puny. Did anybody catchit? Our break is we're going to
be breaking in. It's really earlybecause I had to repeat it because I
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tickled myself with it. Okay,all right, stop me from talking,
all right, surprise me. Whatdo you have? Right? Is it
true? So Hunter Killer teamed upwith Nancy Drew. This is so fun.
It's nostalgic for me. I don'tknow how many of our listeners know
who Nancy Drew is or I wouldsay probably a lot, because the books
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have been around since nineteen thirty.They've been in print consistently since then,
and many of them were updated.So like the ones that were written in
nineteen thirty maybe you know, wouldn'tappeal as they were originally written to nineteen
eighties audiences or two thousands audiences,they updated them. That's so cool,
is really cool. I mean,they did new artwork, they updated the
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stories to make them more relevant.You can still buy the older versions of
them, but there's also these updatedones. There's like over I think it's
somewhere in the neighborhood of two hundredand fifty Nancy Drew Mysteries. She's been
adapted, mostly poorly or television andthe screen. Yeah many times. The
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CW actually had a series and NancyDrew Mystery series that was more of like
a teen drama sort of situation,and it started in twenty nineteen and it's
ending this year in twenty twenty three, so I haven't watched any of it,
but the first three seasons are onHBO Max O Max Now I guess
(08:33):
just Max, just Max, butit sounds dumb to just call it Max
because it's HBO. That's how weknow it. I know, it's like
Twitter going to X. That's awhole nother problem. You've just like you're
dumping the Yeah, the thing thatmakes your brand identifiable. So Nancy Drew
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is fictional, of course, butshe, as I mentioned, she was
created in nineteen thirty by Edward Stratmeyer. He had created the Hardy Boys.
Oh okay, I realized, Ididn't realize it was the name creator for
both yes, and he wanted tocreate something for girls, a Hardy Boys
(09:18):
esque sort of situation for girls.I'm I'm so conflicted about how I feel
how well I mean that this duderealized that girls were a viable market,
right, you know, of course, and then there were crossovers and he
(09:39):
did a bang up job. Hehad Mildred A. Wirt Benson hired to
write Nancy Drew mystery stories. Okay, she wrote twenty three of the original
thirty stories, and her goal wasthat she didn't want an Namby Pamby style
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of girls. She wanted a pluckygirl who was smart and capable and intelligent
all on her own, right,like like a regular girl, Like a
regular girl. This is why I'msure I'm so, you know, I
don't know why, but every timewe look back and see the progress,
(10:22):
I have to remember that the nudgethey had got to make was a big
nudge. Then, right, right, I have to go back then.
But sometimes I look at their nudgesand I'm like, maybe that nudge wasn't
as helpful because you nudged, butmaybe maybe maybe we could have aimed a
different way or something, you knowwhat. But I really appreciate I appreciate
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that because even though it feels alittle weird that like, oh, we
have this for boys, they won'tlike hanging out with friends and getting into
trouble, so let's make something forthe girl. Okay, but maybe the
Hardy Boards are fun. Well,the Hardy Boys probably were really fun,
but they were also very like straightlaced sort of not the girls couldn't enjoy
(11:07):
it. And I think that's probablyit is that there were girls picking up
Hardy Boys books and they realized,oh, we should have the primary character
be a girl. Yeah, andthat makes total sense, which I really
appreciated. I thought that was great. It is still being published by Simon
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and Schuster. According to Nancy DrewSleuth dot Com, who which is written
by Jennifer Fisher, and she's doingresearch into Nancy Drew and trying to document
things, and that's notice her relevance. So was it the same publishers and
(11:48):
creators that made Babysitters Club back inthe day, because I thought how I
thought that the Babysitters Club more mirroredHardy Boys, right, because it was
more than one. It was agroup, yeah right, yeah, a
group of friends like one outcast individual. Well Nancy Drew did, she did
(12:09):
have a group of friends. Itwas just centered on her. Yeah,
I guess so, I it's beenShe had a boyfriend, but he wasn't
like he was kind of like Kenin Barbie. Oh okay, yeah,
around, but not the center ofthe story, right right, which I
kind of appreciate. Yeah, Ikind of appreciate also a little marginalized,
(12:31):
like why why do we have toflip the script? That is that's the
whole part of the Barbie movie,you know, if we flipped the script,
we're just flipping the oppression, Soright, can't we write anyway?
But that's what so great? ButI did love Next Teacher, and I
thought it was really well written.And it's been a long time since I've
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read it. But yeah, NancyDrew has remained relevant for over ninety years.
The New York Times had a articleback in twenty nineteen Nancy Drew and
the mystery of her enduring relevance.So people like Soda, Santa mayor Oprah
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Winfrey, Hillary Clinton all say thatthey were inspired and read Nancy Drew.
It's been published under the pseudonym CarolynKeene. Yeah, really forever. Yeah,
so that even though Carolyn Keene didn'twrite all of the books, they're
all pseudonyms. Is kind of likeJohn Grisham, right, you know,
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now John Grisham actually was a realperson who did but now you know he's
no longer alive, but they're stillJohn Grisham novels coming out because they have
people writing and because that's right,Like, yeah, they said, Nancy
isn't quite an everywoman. We can'tall Crack is Safe or pie lit a
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speedboat. But she's an archetype,just generic enough for readers to imagine theirselves
in her sensible shoes. Well,she was running a lot. She wasn't
wearing heels, She ran a lot. She has proved really difficult to adapt
to entertainment outside of books, isn'tthat interesting? I wonder why why do
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they think? Well, Melanie Rehac, who's an author of a book called
Girl Sleuth That's all about Nancy Drew, said, part of her appeal has
always been that people relate to herin various ways. Actually seeing her on
screen embodied a real person, thatkind of ruined it for them. Oh
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okay, Well, so if you'reimagining her a certain way and relating to
her in a certain way, andthen you don't relate to the actress or
the story, then it makes ittougher. Yeah, yeah, that's hard.
Yeah, all right, so psychologybreak. Okay. So Nancy True,
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despite being fictional, is a femalerole model. As I mentioned that
lots of influential women read Nancy Drewgrowing up, and this is really really
important. Forbes had an article seeingas believing female role models inspire girls to
think bigger. Research shows not beingable to see other women who look and
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act like them succeeding in areas ofinterest to them, particularly in the field
of stem and politics, discourages girlsfrom pursuing such careers. So representation representations
really really matters of not only avariety of ethnicities and backgrounds and religions,
but also gender, right yeah,right, And it's it is important because
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it's not this blindness of equality.We have to be seen and so equal,
right right, that's the difference.We want to be seen for being
the gender that we are, youknow, and and then also represented but
also equal. So it is itis a kind of a mind melt for
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a lot of people. Yes,yes, female students are more likely to
choose a major in STEM when they'reassigned a female professor instead of a male
one. And research shows that rolemodels have three core benefits for women.
Role Models represent and expand what ispossible. They inspire women to be more
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ambitious and aim higher, and theydemonstrate the mindsets and behaviors of how to
rise. That's the thing that Iwas kind of in my mind centering on
a little bit was the importance ofa mentor really understanding the obstacles that you
have to overcome, right right,like when a female But but this can
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backfire, so there's a whole backfirefor when women who have broken ceilings mentor
like say younger women, there's abackfire because the woman who broke the ceiling
is in a triple mind. Ifthey bring up the women below them,
people around them will see it asa sort of gendered nepotism. Okay,
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right, if that person and becausethey're so new in that fresh position,
they have to prove themselves. Soif they bring up somebody who is you
know, makes mistakes, which wouldbe normal in the in the in the
realm, like say a man bringsup a man that makes mistakes, nobody's
gonna hold that mentor responsible because well, it does happen. It's you know,
you can't yeah, and you know, I can't always predict what person
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you're you know, promoting, isgoing to really make it. But if
the woman recommends and somebody comes upand doesn't quite fill the bill, it's
the female mentor that will get heldresponsible. So a female mentor who is
broken ceilings is not a good andmentor usually younger women, right, even
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though she should be, because sheunderstands the challenges. She has to worry
about keeping her own position right,and she has to make sure that anybody
she brings up is going to besuccessful, no matter who they are.
Whereas you know, mentors will oftenmentor several people yes in order to be
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able to figure out who's going tobe most successful in that given position,
right, And yeah, and thementors is just a mentor. They're not
responsible that. It's not an apprenticeshipso to speak, where they are literally
the instructor and needs your show thatthey've you know, and then maybe past
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or fail someone a mentor. It'snot that kind of relationship. So yeah,
So the pairing of a female who'sbroken ceilings to a female or a
black individual, brown individual to youknow, a younger black or brown individual
or you know, any kind ofmarginalized individual who is broken through a ceiling
and as paving is paving away,they are not actually the best to pair
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with the younger. They're they're thetrailblazers. Let them go. Okay,
let them trailblaze, let them trailblaze, because they can't. They are under
such a triple bind already they cannotmentor. That's interesting, yeah, because
and it's sad because you would thinkthat they would be the ones and they're
really not. And that's and it'sunfair to them actually to ask them to
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put themselves at so much risk,right in order to mentor. So it's
the people who are just behind themthat become the better mentors. Okay,
tiled right, Yeah, so forwomen, same thing, like somebody has
to be the trailblazer. Nancy Drewprobably if she was alive, she was
real, probably wouldn't be the bestmentor. But the people come and after
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her, you know that best friend. Yeah, yeah, the ones who
were like younger, who took thesame risks and sort of got there.
Okay, now we've got mentors inplace, right, isn't it amazing that
we still have all of these peoplewho need to be mentors? And partly
because according to this article, onlypoint five percent of history books are focused
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on women's accomplishments. Yeah, whichis really ridiculous. It really is,
because it doesn't it's not just menher making breakthroughs. I mean, we
see this with Madame Curie. Yeah, she didn't get her Nobel Prize until
her husband was given credit, andthen he had to insist that they get
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it together. It's ridiculous. Here'sthe funny thing is if education books like
history books just focused on accomplishments,achievements and breakthrough was that further human society,
we would have equal representation across men, white men, people of color,
black, brown, and then allboth men and women gendered across the
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board, there would be like theSouleu of representation everyone. If they would
just focus on the actual accomplishments first, if they just resort. Yeah,
well but here's they don't. Butthey don't do that, and so things
that would be attributed to women,non binary folk, whomever, whatever,
wherever you land, they've all beenlost to history because they weren't recorded for
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their accomplishments, because they gave allthat credit to men. Yeah, yeah,
white men usually. It's ridiculous.I mean, we don't even talk
about traffic lights that like that rulesour lives. Traffic lights. Traffic lights
cause so much anger we have todeal with the people have to go to
therapy or traffic lights, you know, like seriously, and yet we don't
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talk about who created that. Andit wasn't a white man, so I
mean, but we don't talk aboutthese things. Resort well, I don't
remember his name, do have tolook it up, but it's a black
man who who was an engineer whocreated this system. And I mean,
traffic lights they literally keep us safe, they keep us from dying right on
the road. And like we don'ttalk about that in history, these things
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that actually impact us our daily life. We go back and you know,
I'm all about some Hamilton, don'tget me wrong, but like, yeah,
like it's a old like World Wartwo history. I mean I love
that stuff too. I can't sayI love I like learning about all you're
interested in it. You love itlike you love true crime and maybe a
little less. Okay, right,I love it in a very Smithsonian style
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educational system where it's like, oh, like, how I learned about this
traffic light? Yeah, because theyresort better. Yeah, that's fair.
And when we resort, we haverepresentation other another little an alliteration here,
huh, Wow, I'm dondered thismorning? Wow, I or I way
more coffee? I have a wholepot right here? All right, Sorry,
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I'm gonna stop because I'm here,I've already been on a diet trap.
So we should all have the confidenceof a mediacor white man, basically
is what this article is saying.Women. I mean, I wish I
wish I had the conants of mediocor white man. Most days do we
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too? Women tend to underestimate theirabilities more so than men, reducing their
confidence and making them less likely toput themselves forward for roles until they feel
one hundred percent ready. Yeah,both because we're judged twice as hard exactly,
But we could if we could justpush ourselves forward. You know what,
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I'm not ready, but if Ithink if you gave me the chance,
I could get there, it feelslike we should be doing that more
women are. Research shows that womenare consistently judged on what they have accomplished,
whereas men are consistently judged on whatthey could accomplished. Right, And
that is the difference. That's whywomen don't go for until they're one hundred
percent because they are going to bejudged by what they've already, So they
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have to line up their their accomplishmentsand create that just show that they will
continue, versus a man who cancome in with a confidence and say,
look, I look at this potentialI have, you know, right.
And it's funny because my dad wasvery mentory to me, mentory making interesting
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connection. He was. He hada mentoring approach to a lot of the
ways that he taught me as akid. And he was a successful white
man, right he want And Iwas a very tricia year would like I
wanted to be, you know,in my daddy's world. You know.
But the thing he told me aboutpotential was potential great, but it means
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you hadn't done anything yet, oh, which was kind of like fair and
also like sometimes it was very inspiringand sometimes it was very like Oh,
like when people tell you, oh, you have great potential, Oh yeah,
you hadn't done nothing yet. See, but when you say that to
a woman, huh, it meansyou haven't done anything. I recognize this
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an accomplishment. It's not about whatyou actually have or have not accomplished.
It's whether the man understands you tohave accomplished something they deemed worthwhile. Right.
And this dad, I mean ano fault of his own. He
was just he was trying to helpthe best way he could. Yeah,
but he didn't he didn't see howtelling me that would sound and and also
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play out out very differently than theway he tells a man that, uh
huh right, Because the way youtell a man that is potential means you
hadn't done anything yet, so goyeah and get it done and show me.
And when I heard it, Iwas, Oh, that means I
haven't done anything. Yet I haveto do something in order to be given
a chance. Right, see opposite, right, And so it's like seeing
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the research play out like in reallife. Yep. But basically women inspire
other women. Yes, women doinspire other women. The last bit of
advice that doctor Margie Whirl had backin October of twenty twenty for women,
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I encourage you to be the rolemodel you wish you'd had when you were
starting out. If you're asked tobe a mentor, say yes. If
you're asked to be interviewed, sayyes. If you're asked to be on
a panel, say yes and takeother women with you. Say yes.
If you're asked, if it's inyour professional realm, yeah, and you're
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asked to do something, it sucksbecause men can say no. Men can
say no, But you're doing you'redoing good for yourself and you're doing good
for others, and you're saying yesexactly. Just one more way that women
you know, have to and thatstep up. That is one way that
the trailblazers can participate is like shementioned the panels and things like that,
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say yes to those, right,Maybe you can't take on those individual mentoring
relationships the same way that that yourtypical man and an organization would because most
people in a large, especially ofvertically organized organization have an assignmntor right right.
Maybe they can't do that, butthey can't say yes to those right
exactly. Yeah. Welcome to theTrue Crime Gallery The Dark Side of Art,
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the season three miniseries finale of theArt Career podcast where we are going
to uncover the dark and twisted taleswhere art and crime intersect. In this
three part series, we bring youbone chilling stories that will leave you captivate
it. We're going to begin thisweek with doctor Noah Charney telling the tale
(28:25):
of the Cursed gent Altarpiece. Nextweek, I'm going to explore the horrifying
use of modern art as an instrumentof torture. I'm going to explore a
crime hidden behind one of the Louver'sprized masterpieces, and the disturbing artistic endeavors
(28:45):
of a notorious serial killer. Willend with the famous thefts of the Mona
Lisa. Brace yourself for these hauntingnarratives and thank you always for tuning in.
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Alright, real life, So there'sa poisoned garden at Magnolia gardens which
we were going to enter after thebreak. I know me either, and
it plays heavily into this mystery thatNancy needs our help to solve. But
the most famous poison garden is England'sGarden, which we've talked about, but
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it's so cool and it's totally worthgoing to alite Garden dot com and visiting
their website and checking out what theyhave that it has more than a hundred
toxic, intoxicating and narcotic plants.I mean only it's included in your admission
price to the gardens, but youcan only go in with a guide because
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even though they instruct you not totouch, they want to make sure you're
not going to touch, and evennot touching, people have fainted because of
the sense in the garden. It'skind of incredible, and they have some
that we're going to talk about likeBelladonna and monks Hood. Those are things
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that are included in this game.It's so cool, it's super cool.
I one day killer Fun Trips weregone. That's our That's my next goal
for us is Killer Fun Trips.We plan trips and we go and we
go and do the fun things.Yes, then we go and we like
investigate the real life, you know, so fun, it would be fun.
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So briefly, there are six plantsthat they talk about that are poisonous
in this game. So I'm justgonna a little interesting tidbit about each one.
So azalea's which I realize, butyeah, if you eat them,
you need to call poison control.But they so. The earliest accounts of
mass poisonings date back to the firstcentury BC, when Roman troops were legendly
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poisoned with honey, according to poisondot Org, because bees would make money
from azaleas. And it's called madhoney. Oh my god, so you've
I grew up in an area thatis full of azalea trees, and like
I was at school in Botosta andlike everything's azalias and azalia. I had
no idea about this mad honey.Too much azalia and honey. And it'll
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it's a it'll cost some issues.That's fans, Houston. I should not
be so delighted. Bleeding heart isa real pretty pink flower, okay,
and it is toxic to humans butmuch less common to have a poisoning from
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it accidentally. But dogs are especiallysmall dogs are more susceptible to it,
and horses if they feed on it, they can cause themselves like liver failure.
Oh yeah, gee yeah, Belladonnaokay, yeah, which is deadly
night shade night. Yeah. Soit's related to tomatoes. Potatoes and eggplants.
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Those are the tomatoes were believed tobe poisonous for very long time in
history and people didn't eat them.And now we yeah, I learned recently
something about that about how like itwasn't until Christopher Columbus brought tomatoes back from
this continent and brought it back beforelike they started cultivating it right and becoming
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like so like we think of Italiansas always having the marinerra and was after
night fourteen, I need to thatbut apparently and so like I read this
and I haven't. I haven't factchecked. Oh okay, this little thing
that I've read, but I thoughtlast I might go down that road,
uh huh, because I bet there'ssome ancient Italian recipes that are freaking fantastic,
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but don't have to make this onthem. I bet so Bella donna,
which means beautiful lady in Italian,has very unpredictable effects. So it
is there is an antidote for it, though, so if our acts have
accidentally ingested some deadly nightshade, hospitalthey can help. It's rumored that Roman
(33:30):
Empress Olivia Drusilla used the berries tomurder her husband, Emperor Augustus. Oh,
and it was common for women toput the juice of the berries in
their eyes because it would make theireyes dilate and sparkle, and they looked
(33:50):
beautiful. That's why it's called belladonna. They would put it in their
eyes and it would make their eyesmore sparkly and alluring. What, yes,
I mean to their detriment. Butokay, wow, yeah, okay,
me and YouTube we have a date. I gotta go. I gotta
go find out more about that lilyif the valley. You know, it's
(34:13):
a very sweetly scented little white bellshaped flowers, very pretty highly poisonous.
All parts of it are poisonous ifyou ingest it. Because of its sweet
smell, it can be a particularlyattractive to children, who are of course
smaller in stature, and so itmakes them more susceptible to the poison.
(34:34):
It doesn't have an aromatic extract thatcan be taken from it, so if
you have Lily of the valley perfume, which is fairly common. It's all
going to be produced with a mixof other sense. It's either synthetic or
a blend of other sense to giveyou the same sort of sa Yeah,
(34:55):
it's common in weddings. Yeah,Katherine Milton and Prince William at their wedding,
she had her bouquet had lily ofthe valley in it. Is there
another name? Is there another namefor is that calidly? No? These
are like small bell shaped flowers.So the calais are large and like and
these are small. It would belike an addition. Usually it's like a
(35:20):
little spray o. They're like anumber of little dropped flowers that are like
in it. Okay, gotcha.Because the calie is also not good for
animals. No, No, that'sbad. Really, any kind of lilies
not good. But they're pretty.They're so pretty. And then oleanders,
(35:43):
yeah, which all over the Southfrom California to Florida. They end up
on the sides of highways because they'rehearty and pretty. Yeah, but they're
completely poisonous. I remember my parentstelling me, don't eat this. I'm
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like, I'm not going to beeating plants out of the yard most of
the time. I remember being aboutthree and my parents telling me not to
eat the olander, Like why arewe putting a olander around three year olds?
But whatever, I guess it wasalready there at a house. Yeah,
hard to get rid of or something, Yeah, because it's so hardy.
But I even then I remember thinking, why would I want to eat
(36:28):
that? All right, well,I have to admit that I definitely did
some eating of the plants when Iwas younger. Yeah, because from are
delicious and there's like wild onions andstuff. Yeah, so we ate some
flowers when we were younger because there'ssome that are kind of yummy. They're
delicious, Yeah, well exactly.But I wouldn't like, like somebody had
(36:49):
to tell me they were good toeat. I wouldn't just eat these things.
I was not that kind of kid. No. I was not like,
oh, I wonder if this isdelicious? Like, no, did
those berries come out of the refrigeratoror no? Thank you? My family
forced me to eat leaves. Iwonder if these are good? Tell us
good berries sounds good to me?Because you know, I stayed outside all
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day, right, hose and whateveryou can find Foraging Foraging. All right,
we're gonna take a quick break andthen we'll share all the fun bits
of our gameplay and we'll let youknow if we win without spoiling it for
you. So if you want toplay, and uh yeah, it's gonna
(37:36):
be eat good time, so comeback. All of the sources that we
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We love to hear from you.You might learn a little something too
here we are coming up next,we have our spoiler free gameplay of Hunted
Killers Mystery at Magnolia Garden. SoI included lots of cute fun stuff,
(38:25):
but it's completely spoiler free. Soif you want to play this game,
absolutely feel free to listen. It'ssuper fun. We had a great,
great time. You're going to hearsome fun things that we said while we
were solving the puzzles and working outwho the culprit was and did we figure
(38:45):
that out. You'll get to hearall that up next next time that we
have a hiatus, I'm going todo our spoiler full version of Mystery at
Magnolia Garden. It's a super longepisode. There'll be some outtakes from the
first part of our conversation and thenmost of our gameplay. For the super
(39:09):
long time that we recorded to playthis game, we had a really good
time, and so that will becoming up in the next few months.
But today right now, spoiler freejust for you, so want to let
you know that that's what is happeningup next. You don't have to worry
(39:29):
that if you want to go andtry and play this game and see if
you can solve it yourself, thatwill have spoiled it for you. We
won't enjoy Hello, there's trouble atMagnolia Gardens, a botanical garden in my
hometown of River Heights. I needyour help to get to the bottom of
it before anyone gets hurt any worsethan they already have been, including myself.
(39:53):
Through the rest of the evidence tosee what you find, It's up
to you, Nancy Drew Okay,so I'm drinking coffee today, not tea
means motive and opportunity. All right, here, I'll read the uh the
notes. Okay, Nancy Drew's notes. So the symptoms reported we're throbbing headaches.
(40:22):
Took the strainer and strain strainer bagfrom Florence's office as evidence. Nice,
look at how cute that is.I mean, we get a little
bag with a tea strainer and it'seven got the little pink stain on it.
I mean it's a horrible a literaltea strainer. Tea strainer. Yes,
(40:43):
like I could make tea with that. You can actually use this or
a mole. You can mold something, You can mold something or would always
use these things, bowler, I'lluse them in my instant pot. If
I'm doing suits and you want likespices in it, I'll put them in
the t strain so that it getsin the broth rather than right, and
then I don't like them or whatever, right and well, and I don't
(41:05):
have to sift them out. Yeah, we're gonna have to do a code.
There's a code. Together, wecan figure it out. This is
a weird code. It is aweird code, but we'll figure it out.
Took a map of Magnolia gardens toguide me around right here. Yes,
(41:29):
oh yeah, so there's a wholegosh, it's so cool. We
need a bulletin board. We doneed We need to like use the We
need to like post everything because lookwe have suspect cards too. Yeah,
and like or like character cards.Right yeah, I don't like give you
(41:52):
bad vibes. Yeah, but Oliveris a cute Oh, Oliver is cute.
It was like white Jesus. Hedoes look like Jesus. I mean
we made Jesus to look absolutely adorable. I mean as a man with his
sandals. Just give that man aguitar. Look at how cute this is.
(42:15):
It's a box when I know yourgardens with a little it's a legit
lock lock. Like you could usethis yeah oh well actually you couldn't because
it's not t s a certifi doesn'thave the hole in it. But it's
like it's works like a luggage tag. Yeah, but for something else,
like you know, small locker ora little trunk or a diary, a
(42:37):
diary or this little tin or thistin, we could keep it locked.
It's a pencil case. Oh Okay, it's a pencil. Cool. I
wonder there's something something in it.I feel like a kid at Christmas.
I hope it will break it.Maybe be more gentle, Okay, I
(43:00):
don't think you need to, butthat's wine. And then find an interesting
looking facts in doctor La Tour's officeand borrowed it. That was one of
that was one of the things thatI did read about when we were reading
about Nancy Drew. She stole,she broke and entered. She like got
(43:23):
into stuff, but like but likeall in the name of solving the mystery.
Oh for sure. Yeah, wejust borrowed this, borrowed it.
She borrowed the facts. Tara replies, apologies, I was busy with the
f F lecture yesterday. That's theFiday to La must have slipped my mind.
(43:45):
Maybe you'd understand what it's like tohave a multitask two. Sorry,
maybe you'd understand what it's like tohave to multitask if you'd been promoted for
the record, though it was aregular tomato soup and nothing from the lab.
Okay, and then I might notbe nearly as busy as you are
(44:06):
trying to salvage that project of yours. But I find ways to Ocumiye,
it my time. Next time brainclam chowder. Oo, don't warm that
up in the microwave. Gross,we gotta say makeshift pinboard. Yes,
we got pins. We got threadto connect our dots. Listen, we're
(44:29):
I'm standing. I pulled, Ipulled the mic up and everything. Somebody
can't realize they were wrong less they'realive to see it. So I don't
know, I am either. It'sa question. It's a question. Now
did we read Sherwood's Yeah, wedid, we did. Yeah, I'm
(44:49):
pull it down. Yeah, Ihave to remember. Yeah, okay,
because you read it. Yeah,this is that thing where like you read
it and I heard it and Idon't remember looking at it. Ye.
When my colleague, doctor Sanderson recommendedParker for this position, he repeatedly emphasized
to me how intelligent Parker is andhow much potential he has to become a
skilled researcher. Hey, look atthat. The man has potential potential.
(45:13):
So we're gonna hire him off thispotential, despite the fact that he's should
proven himself error prone. Yeah,okay, interesting, but this is the
same irregular hot but heartbeat and seizureslack of appetite and frothy salvation our stars,
(45:35):
the frothy salvation. That sounds dirtyand it opened it. Yeah,
nice boy. I was. Iwas sitting here as you're looking through this,
(45:58):
talking about it, just trying likerenumber on this starting like a zero
zero zero. So this is whythey stole the things with the pencil case,
because they needed a code, right, all right, Oh there's a
ring. Oh how nice this is. It's like a nice ring I wouldn't
(46:21):
wear. It's a big it's abig man ring. Look at that.
It's a big man ring with flowerson it. It sounds metal. It
is actual metal. Yeah, Ihave big knuckles. Look at that.
I mean I feel like drop somewax on that sucker. It's like it's
(46:43):
like any kind of puzzle, Likeyou start doing it and you're like,
this is gonna take forever. I'mnever gonna get this, and then you
kind of get a little start onit and it gets easier. Sixteen to
ninety minutes, my ass, notone. We have to actually cut and
paste. Yeah, I believe thatthere are there is help. Oh we
(47:09):
don't want help. Oh, Iknow, we don't want help. I'm
just saying that if we decide,we want a little assistance to make sure
that we're going in the right allright, if you still feel stuck or
would like a little help, mysteryegmannoia dot com and navigate to the hints
and reveal I feel confident. Okay, I feel confident before we even looked
(47:34):
at the hints. Yeah, metoo, but we had to be sure,
right, all right, trying toopen it up. Okay, let's
open it. And then oh andthen there's a letter from Nancy. I
hope we get to work together againsomeday, but let's hope the next time
(47:54):
I won't have to get poisoned.First, your friend Nancy drew. Awesome,
that's super cool. Okay, Well, we've done some cut and paste,
uh huh. And we've done somehandprint, handwriting analysis. Huh.
We've done some profiling. Because thefirst thing I said, as I looked
(48:14):
at and I said, that's it. That's right, guy, I look
at this picture. He's so likecreepy, looks side iron like. No,
we know it was from your beginning, Yeah you did. I didn't,
And then of course we did,you know, just some putting the
strings together, which I'm going tohave pictures. Oh oh, I'm I'm
(48:36):
gonna put more up there and takeanother picture in a minute, I'm gonna
put things back and okay. Yeah, and so we'll have some pictures of
our stringed board. Yes, it'sgoing to be super fun. Yeah.
I have some that we've made alongthe way. We have all of our
stuff. Yeah, all of thatI'll put on our social media, you
know where to find that. Ihad a little break in here where you
(48:57):
can hear all that. Find uson the face book, Twitter x or
whatever the heck it's called. Now. Yeah, yeah, okay, I
think this is super fun. I'mso proud of us. I think we
only got to a place where,like I was all like, no hints,
and you were like, we needhints. I I'm done. We're
already pretty much had figured it out, but we wanted to make sure there
(49:20):
wasn't something that we were missing.That was the only reason why I was
willing to go for the hints,because I was like, yeah, and
we we wanted to figure out thecode on the postcard because that was cute.
And and then we actually missed thewhole piece turn over. But it
didn't turn out to really have Itwould have already had we not already come
to the conclusion that we did thenotes right, who's h and that that
(49:45):
the person was the person right,this would have been helpful. This would
have been helpful. But we've alreadygotten there, right, We had already
gotten there. Yeah, awesome,awesome, Well, thanks so much for
joining us today. We really appreciateit. We know that we don't just
come on the radio. That youmake a choice when you listen to us,
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(50:27):
super cool. And next time,we're going to watch a Netflix original movie
that looks really funny. It doeslook and it's one hundred percent on Rotten
Tomatoes. It came to me highlyrecommended by a friend of mine who really
loves movies. She watches all theOscar movies every year because she wants to
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hilarious, hilarious, awesome. Well, until next time, be safe,
be kind, and wash your hands. Bomb bomb
Welcome back to Killer Fane, wherewe explore the intersection of crime and entertainment
every other week. I'm Christy andI'm Jack, and we're so glad that
you're back with us today. Today, I'm so excited. We are playing
a game. We haven't done this, you know, a hot minute.
A hot minute meaning like our firstepisode, I played a game. We
did. We played the first twoepisodes, and then we played a couple
(00:33):
of games. Yeah, a littlebit of year. Yeah, that first
year really and I all know thatit's been literally years since we played a
game. Yeah, but it's fun. I think we know what we're doing
better, you know, like whenwe first hold on because when weirst started,
no, not only like we didwe have a unique idea to cover
(00:54):
like crimey entertainment. We weren't goingto be like true crime investigators. Right
now, we're like cover crime inentertainment, right, crimey stuff, but
fun stuff. Okay, Well,anyway, I bring away thought, oh
games, you know, and thenwe were like, how do you do
that? How I don't understand?And we did not have bad not gonna
tell you we did not have bad. No, it was fun and it
(01:18):
was fun. But I think weI think we're you know, even more
refined about how we're going to approachthis today. Absolutely. Well, you
know, it's more accessible when youwatch a show because the audience can also
watch and appreciate it if it's somethingthey've seen or if they've or want to
see something, then they can havea little more context and it's more fun
that way. And we just haven'tdone a game in a lot because it's
(01:42):
hard, you know, like wewould have to like make a real big
plan to try to get people toplay this game first and talk about it.
And you know, we don't reallydo a video, so like you
can't you know, see the situationthat we're in. So we're going to
try to which is fine because we'redoing this. Oh yeah, it kind
of early. No, you don'twant to see us or you don't know
maybe a person we look fine inperson. Video cameras would not be kind
(02:07):
at this hour. No, No, Like, you know, I think
you're beautiful, no matter what.Agreed ditto. I think we're beautiful.
And I think if anybody was sittinghere, they'd say, oh, y'all
are beautiful. We're just talking aboutthe issues. Video cameras, yes,
that's it, right. Video camerasare unkind. They are to me,
(02:28):
they're so unkind, all right.So we did, as we mentioned,
we started our podcast with a HuntedKiller subscription box. Yes we did.
And that was all that they didat that time, Yes, which was
super fun. It was super funand interesting, but a little confusing,
and you had that you couldn't solveit all in one sitting. No,
(02:49):
you had to remember what you didthe time of hot right, or you
make yourself notes and review and dothe do the things and you would get
and the boxes would build upon oneanother. But now they have more than
just subscriptions. They have entire mysteryboxes that are solvable in one contained units.
(03:10):
Yeah, sixty to ninety minutes isas uh huh, which is we'll
see, which is super great.You know, Like the subscription, what
I found was I remembered and Imade good notes about the things that I
sort of investigated, and you didthe same, but I didn't quite always
grasp the clues that you had discoveredas well. Right, And so doing
it together I think, in likeone person getting the subscription and doing it
(03:34):
themselves probably more fun, not becauseit's not more fun to play with a
friend, but because your brain connectsit a little better. Right, you
were looking at everything, you know, So I'll play with more people and
having one person document everybody's yes,so that it's a little bit more if
you have a little ownership over allthe clues. Right, That's what I
(03:57):
realized we had to do, isI had to have some ownership or your
clues so that I would really helpconnect the dots the next night. Yeah,
yeah, I think this is moreour speed. I think this is
more our speed. I think Ithink a lot of people are going to
really enjoy this. Yeah, andI think we're going to enjoy it.
I'm so looking forward to I mean, we're going to talk about that just
(04:18):
a minute. We'd really like tothink Hunt of Killer because they provided this
game to us, so you know, I kind of feel like we've arrived
a little bit because they came andsaid, hey, would you like this,
and we're like absolutely. We wouldescape room in a box. Yes,
it's sort of situation. It's notexactly like you don't explode after a
(04:41):
certain amount of time or whatever.Yeah, we had to have played one
like, yeah, we played anescape room in a box that wasting Yeah,
it was. It was fun.We played. We had there were
several of them in the in theincluded in the one box, and that
was pretty fun. I enjoyed it. Bought it on clearance. Gotta love
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(06:35):
we are briefly going to do ournormal quote unquote format. Okay, yeah,
but we're gonna do it here beforebreak. So and because then our
break is gonna be us gonna bebreaking into this ba I mean, pun
was very puny. Did anybody catchit? Our break is we're going to
be breaking in. It's really earlybecause I had to repeat it because I
(06:58):
tickled myself with it. Okay,all right, stop me from talking,
all right, surprise me. Whatdo you have? Right? Is it
true? So Hunter Killer teamed upwith Nancy Drew. This is so fun.
It's nostalgic for me. I don'tknow how many of our listeners know
who Nancy Drew is or I wouldsay probably a lot, because the books
(07:23):
have been around since nineteen thirty.They've been in print consistently since then,
and many of them were updated.So like the ones that were written in
nineteen thirty maybe you know, wouldn'tappeal as they were originally written to nineteen
eighties audiences or two thousands audiences,they updated them. That's so cool,
is really cool. I mean,they did new artwork, they updated the
(07:46):
stories to make them more relevant.You can still buy the older versions of
them, but there's also these updatedones. There's like over I think it's
somewhere in the neighborhood of two hundredand fifty Nancy Drew Mysteries. She's been
adapted, mostly poorly or television andthe screen. Yeah many times. The
(08:11):
CW actually had a series and NancyDrew Mystery series that was more of like
a teen drama sort of situation,and it started in twenty nineteen and it's
ending this year in twenty twenty three, so I haven't watched any of it,
but the first three seasons are onHBO Max O Max Now I guess
(08:33):
just Max, just Max, butit sounds dumb to just call it Max
because it's HBO. That's how weknow it. I know, it's like
Twitter going to X. That's awhole nother problem. You've just like you're
dumping the Yeah, the thing thatmakes your brand identifiable. So Nancy Drew
(08:54):
is fictional, of course, butshe, as I mentioned, she was
created in nineteen thirty by Edward Stratmeyer. He had created the Hardy Boys.
Oh okay, I realized, Ididn't realize it was the name creator for
both yes, and he wanted tocreate something for girls, a Hardy Boys
(09:18):
esque sort of situation for girls.I'm I'm so conflicted about how I feel
how well I mean that this duderealized that girls were a viable market,
right, you know, of course, and then there were crossovers and he
(09:39):
did a bang up job. Hehad Mildred A. Wirt Benson hired to
write Nancy Drew mystery stories. Okay, she wrote twenty three of the original
thirty stories, and her goal wasthat she didn't want an Namby Pamby style
(10:01):
of girls. She wanted a pluckygirl who was smart and capable and intelligent
all on her own, right,like like a regular girl, Like a
regular girl. This is why I'msure I'm so, you know, I
don't know why, but every timewe look back and see the progress,
(10:22):
I have to remember that the nudgethey had got to make was a big
nudge. Then, right, right, I have to go back then.
But sometimes I look at their nudgesand I'm like, maybe that nudge wasn't
as helpful because you nudged, butmaybe maybe maybe we could have aimed a
different way or something, you knowwhat. But I really appreciate I appreciate
(10:46):
that because even though it feels alittle weird that like, oh, we
have this for boys, they won'tlike hanging out with friends and getting into
trouble, so let's make something forthe girl. Okay, but maybe the
Hardy Boards are fun. Well,the Hardy Boys probably were really fun,
but they were also very like straightlaced sort of not the girls couldn't enjoy
(11:07):
it. And I think that's probablyit is that there were girls picking up
Hardy Boys books and they realized,oh, we should have the primary character
be a girl. Yeah, andthat makes total sense, which I really
appreciated. I thought that was great. It is still being published by Simon
(11:28):
and Schuster. According to Nancy DrewSleuth dot Com, who which is written
by Jennifer Fisher, and she's doingresearch into Nancy Drew and trying to document
things, and that's notice her relevance. So was it the same publishers and
(11:48):
creators that made Babysitters Club back inthe day, because I thought how I
thought that the Babysitters Club more mirroredHardy Boys, right, because it was
more than one. It was agroup, yeah right, yeah, a
group of friends like one outcast individual. Well Nancy Drew did, she did
(12:09):
have a group of friends. Itwas just centered on her. Yeah,
I guess so, I it's beenShe had a boyfriend, but he wasn't
like he was kind of like Kenin Barbie. Oh okay, yeah,
around, but not the center ofthe story, right right, which I
kind of appreciate. Yeah, Ikind of appreciate also a little marginalized,
(12:31):
like why why do we have toflip the script? That is that's the
whole part of the Barbie movie,you know, if we flipped the script,
we're just flipping the oppression, Soright, can't we write anyway?
But that's what so great? ButI did love Next Teacher, and I
thought it was really well written.And it's been a long time since I've
(12:52):
read it. But yeah, NancyDrew has remained relevant for over ninety years.
The New York Times had a articleback in twenty nineteen Nancy Drew and
the mystery of her enduring relevance.So people like Soda, Santa mayor Oprah
(13:13):
Winfrey, Hillary Clinton all say thatthey were inspired and read Nancy Drew.
It's been published under the pseudonym CarolynKeene. Yeah, really forever. Yeah,
so that even though Carolyn Keene didn'twrite all of the books, they're
all pseudonyms. Is kind of likeJohn Grisham, right, you know,
(13:37):
now John Grisham actually was a realperson who did but now you know he's
no longer alive, but they're stillJohn Grisham novels coming out because they have
people writing and because that's right,Like, yeah, they said, Nancy
isn't quite an everywoman. We can'tall Crack is Safe or pie lit a
(14:00):
speedboat. But she's an archetype,just generic enough for readers to imagine theirselves
in her sensible shoes. Well,she was running a lot. She wasn't
wearing heels, She ran a lot. She has proved really difficult to adapt
to entertainment outside of books, isn'tthat interesting? I wonder why why do
(14:24):
they think? Well, Melanie Rehac, who's an author of a book called
Girl Sleuth That's all about Nancy Drew, said, part of her appeal has
always been that people relate to herin various ways. Actually seeing her on
screen embodied a real person, thatkind of ruined it for them. Oh
(14:46):
okay, Well, so if you'reimagining her a certain way and relating to
her in a certain way, andthen you don't relate to the actress or
the story, then it makes ittougher. Yeah, yeah, that's hard.
Yeah, all right, so psychologybreak. Okay. So Nancy True,
(15:09):
despite being fictional, is a femalerole model. As I mentioned that
lots of influential women read Nancy Drewgrowing up, and this is really really
important. Forbes had an article seeingas believing female role models inspire girls to
think bigger. Research shows not beingable to see other women who look and
(15:31):
act like them succeeding in areas ofinterest to them, particularly in the field
of stem and politics, discourages girlsfrom pursuing such careers. So representation representations
really really matters of not only avariety of ethnicities and backgrounds and religions,
but also gender, right yeah,right, And it's it is important because
(15:52):
it's not this blindness of equality.We have to be seen and so equal,
right right, that's the difference.We want to be seen for being
the gender that we are, youknow, and and then also represented but
also equal. So it is itis a kind of a mind melt for
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a lot of people. Yes,yes, female students are more likely to
choose a major in STEM when they'reassigned a female professor instead of a male
one. And research shows that rolemodels have three core benefits for women.
Role Models represent and expand what ispossible. They inspire women to be more
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ambitious and aim higher, and theydemonstrate the mindsets and behaviors of how to
rise. That's the thing that Iwas kind of in my mind centering on
a little bit was the importance ofa mentor really understanding the obstacles that you
have to overcome, right right,like when a female But but this can
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backfire, so there's a whole backfirefor when women who have broken ceilings mentor
like say younger women, there's abackfire because the woman who broke the ceiling
is in a triple mind. Ifthey bring up the women below them,
people around them will see it asa sort of gendered nepotism. Okay,
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right, if that person and becausethey're so new in that fresh position,
they have to prove themselves. Soif they bring up somebody who is you
know, makes mistakes, which wouldbe normal in the in the in the
realm, like say a man bringsup a man that makes mistakes, nobody's
gonna hold that mentor responsible because well, it does happen. It's you know,
you can't yeah, and you know, I can't always predict what person
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you're you know, promoting, isgoing to really make it. But if
the woman recommends and somebody comes upand doesn't quite fill the bill, it's
the female mentor that will get heldresponsible. So a female mentor who is
broken ceilings is not a good andmentor usually younger women, right, even
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though she should be, because sheunderstands the challenges. She has to worry
about keeping her own position right,and she has to make sure that anybody
she brings up is going to besuccessful, no matter who they are.
Whereas you know, mentors will oftenmentor several people yes in order to be
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able to figure out who's going tobe most successful in that given position,
right, And yeah, and thementors is just a mentor. They're not
responsible that. It's not an apprenticeshipso to speak, where they are literally
the instructor and needs your show thatthey've you know, and then maybe past
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or fail someone a mentor. It'snot that kind of relationship. So yeah,
So the pairing of a female who'sbroken ceilings to a female or a
black individual, brown individual to youknow, a younger black or brown individual
or you know, any kind ofmarginalized individual who is broken through a ceiling
and as paving is paving away,they are not actually the best to pair
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with the younger. They're they're thetrailblazers. Let them go. Okay,
let them trailblaze, let them trailblaze, because they can't. They are under
such a triple bind already they cannotmentor. That's interesting, yeah, because
and it's sad because you would thinkthat they would be the ones and they're
really not. And that's and it'sunfair to them actually to ask them to
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put themselves at so much risk,right in order to mentor. So it's
the people who are just behind themthat become the better mentors. Okay,
tiled right, Yeah, so forwomen, same thing, like somebody has
to be the trailblazer. Nancy Drewprobably if she was alive, she was
real, probably wouldn't be the bestmentor. But the people come and after
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her, you know that best friend. Yeah, yeah, the ones who
were like younger, who took thesame risks and sort of got there.
Okay, now we've got mentors inplace, right, isn't it amazing that
we still have all of these peoplewho need to be mentors? And partly
because according to this article, onlypoint five percent of history books are focused
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on women's accomplishments. Yeah, whichis really ridiculous. It really is,
because it doesn't it's not just menher making breakthroughs. I mean, we
see this with Madame Curie. Yeah, she didn't get her Nobel Prize until
her husband was given credit, andthen he had to insist that they get
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it together. It's ridiculous. Here'sthe funny thing is if education books like
history books just focused on accomplishments,achievements and breakthrough was that further human society,
we would have equal representation across men, white men, people of color,
black, brown, and then allboth men and women gendered across the
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board, there would be like theSouleu of representation everyone. If they would
just focus on the actual accomplishments first, if they just resort. Yeah,
well but here's they don't. Butthey don't do that, and so things
that would be attributed to women,non binary folk, whomever, whatever,
wherever you land, they've all beenlost to history because they weren't recorded for
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their accomplishments, because they gave allthat credit to men. Yeah, yeah,
white men usually. It's ridiculous.I mean, we don't even talk
about traffic lights that like that rulesour lives. Traffic lights. Traffic lights
cause so much anger we have todeal with the people have to go to
therapy or traffic lights, you know, like seriously, and yet we don't
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talk about who created that. Andit wasn't a white man, so I
mean, but we don't talk aboutthese things. Resort well, I don't
remember his name, do have tolook it up, but it's a black
man who who was an engineer whocreated this system. And I mean,
traffic lights they literally keep us safe, they keep us from dying right on
the road. And like we don'ttalk about that in history, these things
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that actually impact us our daily life. We go back and you know,
I'm all about some Hamilton, don'tget me wrong, but like, yeah,
like it's a old like World Wartwo history. I mean I love
that stuff too. I can't sayI love I like learning about all you're
interested in it. You love itlike you love true crime and maybe a
little less. Okay, right,I love it in a very Smithsonian style
(22:51):
educational system where it's like, oh, like, how I learned about this
traffic light? Yeah, because theyresort better. Yeah, that's fair.
And when we resort, we haverepresentation other another little an alliteration here,
huh, Wow, I'm dondered thismorning? Wow, I or I way
more coffee? I have a wholepot right here? All right, Sorry,
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I'm gonna stop because I'm here,I've already been on a diet trap.
So we should all have the confidenceof a mediacor white man, basically
is what this article is saying.Women. I mean, I wish I
wish I had the conants of mediocor white man. Most days do we
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too? Women tend to underestimate theirabilities more so than men, reducing their
confidence and making them less likely toput themselves forward for roles until they feel
one hundred percent ready. Yeah,both because we're judged twice as hard exactly,
But we could if we could justpush ourselves forward. You know what,
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I'm not ready, but if Ithink if you gave me the chance,
I could get there, it feelslike we should be doing that more
women are. Research shows that womenare consistently judged on what they have accomplished,
whereas men are consistently judged on whatthey could accomplished. Right, And
that is the difference. That's whywomen don't go for until they're one hundred
percent because they are going to bejudged by what they've already, So they
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have to line up their their accomplishmentsand create that just show that they will
continue, versus a man who cancome in with a confidence and say,
look, I look at this potentialI have, you know, right.
And it's funny because my dad wasvery mentory to me, mentory making interesting
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connection. He was. He hada mentoring approach to a lot of the
ways that he taught me as akid. And he was a successful white
man, right he want And Iwas a very tricia year would like I
wanted to be, you know,in my daddy's world. You know.
But the thing he told me aboutpotential was potential great, but it means
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you hadn't done anything yet, oh, which was kind of like fair and
also like sometimes it was very inspiringand sometimes it was very like Oh,
like when people tell you, oh, you have great potential, Oh yeah,
you hadn't done nothing yet. See, but when you say that to
a woman, huh, it meansyou haven't done anything. I recognize this
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an accomplishment. It's not about whatyou actually have or have not accomplished.
It's whether the man understands you tohave accomplished something they deemed worthwhile. Right.
And this dad, I mean ano fault of his own. He
was just he was trying to helpthe best way he could. Yeah,
but he didn't he didn't see howtelling me that would sound and and also
(25:59):
play out out very differently than theway he tells a man that, uh
huh right, Because the way youtell a man that is potential means you
hadn't done anything yet, so goyeah and get it done and show me.
And when I heard it, Iwas, Oh, that means I
haven't done anything. Yet I haveto do something in order to be given
a chance. Right, see opposite, right, And so it's like seeing
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the research play out like in reallife. Yep. But basically women inspire
other women. Yes, women doinspire other women. The last bit of
advice that doctor Margie Whirl had backin October of twenty twenty for women,
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I encourage you to be the rolemodel you wish you'd had when you were
starting out. If you're asked tobe a mentor, say yes. If
you're asked to be interviewed, sayyes. If you're asked to be on
a panel, say yes and takeother women with you. Say yes.
If you're asked, if it's inyour professional realm, yeah, and you're
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asked to do something, it sucksbecause men can say no. Men can
say no, But you're doing you'redoing good for yourself and you're doing good
for others, and you're saying yesexactly. Just one more way that women
you know, have to and thatstep up. That is one way that
the trailblazers can participate is like shementioned the panels and things like that,
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say yes to those, right,Maybe you can't take on those individual mentoring
relationships the same way that that yourtypical man and an organization would because most
people in a large, especially ofvertically organized organization have an assignmntor right right.
Maybe they can't do that, butthey can't say yes to those right
exactly. Yeah. Welcome to theTrue Crime Gallery The Dark Side of Art,
(28:00):
the season three miniseries finale of theArt Career podcast where we are going
to uncover the dark and twisted taleswhere art and crime intersect. In this
three part series, we bring youbone chilling stories that will leave you captivate
it. We're going to begin thisweek with doctor Noah Charney telling the tale
(28:25):
of the Cursed gent Altarpiece. Nextweek, I'm going to explore the horrifying
use of modern art as an instrumentof torture. I'm going to explore a
crime hidden behind one of the Louver'sprized masterpieces, and the disturbing artistic endeavors
(28:45):
of a notorious serial killer. Willend with the famous thefts of the Mona
Lisa. Brace yourself for these hauntingnarratives and thank you always for tuning in.
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Alright, real life, So there'sa poisoned garden at Magnolia gardens which
we were going to enter after thebreak. I know me either, and
it plays heavily into this mystery thatNancy needs our help to solve. But
the most famous poison garden is England'sGarden, which we've talked about, but
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it's so cool and it's totally worthgoing to alite Garden dot com and visiting
their website and checking out what theyhave that it has more than a hundred
toxic, intoxicating and narcotic plants.I mean only it's included in your admission
price to the gardens, but youcan only go in with a guide because
(29:57):
even though they instruct you not totouch, they want to make sure you're
not going to touch, and evennot touching, people have fainted because of
the sense in the garden. It'skind of incredible, and they have some
that we're going to talk about likeBelladonna and monks Hood. Those are things
(30:19):
that are included in this game.It's so cool, it's super cool.
I one day killer Fun Trips weregone. That's our That's my next goal
for us is Killer Fun Trips.We plan trips and we go and we
go and do the fun things.Yes, then we go and we like
investigate the real life, you know, so fun, it would be fun.
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So briefly, there are six plantsthat they talk about that are poisonous
in this game. So I'm justgonna a little interesting tidbit about each one.
So azalea's which I realize, butyeah, if you eat them,
you need to call poison control.But they so. The earliest accounts of
mass poisonings date back to the firstcentury BC, when Roman troops were legendly
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poisoned with honey, according to poisondot Org, because bees would make money
from azaleas. And it's called madhoney. Oh my god, so you've
I grew up in an area thatis full of azalea trees, and like
I was at school in Botosta andlike everything's azalias and azalia. I had
no idea about this mad honey.Too much azalia and honey. And it'll
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it's a it'll cost some issues.That's fans, Houston. I should not
be so delighted. Bleeding heart isa real pretty pink flower, okay,
and it is toxic to humans butmuch less common to have a poisoning from
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it accidentally. But dogs are especiallysmall dogs are more susceptible to it,
and horses if they feed on it, they can cause themselves like liver failure.
Oh yeah, gee yeah, Belladonnaokay, yeah, which is deadly
night shade night. Yeah. Soit's related to tomatoes. Potatoes and eggplants.
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Those are the tomatoes were believed tobe poisonous for very long time in
history and people didn't eat them.And now we yeah, I learned recently
something about that about how like itwasn't until Christopher Columbus brought tomatoes back from
this continent and brought it back beforelike they started cultivating it right and becoming
(32:45):
like so like we think of Italiansas always having the marinerra and was after
night fourteen, I need to thatbut apparently and so like I read this
and I haven't. I haven't factchecked. Oh okay, this little thing
that I've read, but I thoughtlast I might go down that road,
uh huh, because I bet there'ssome ancient Italian recipes that are freaking fantastic,
(33:07):
but don't have to make this onthem. I bet so Bella donna,
which means beautiful lady in Italian,has very unpredictable effects. So it
is there is an antidote for it, though, so if our acts have
accidentally ingested some deadly nightshade, hospitalthey can help. It's rumored that Roman
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Empress Olivia Drusilla used the berries tomurder her husband, Emperor Augustus. Oh,
and it was common for women toput the juice of the berries in
their eyes because it would make theireyes dilate and sparkle, and they looked
(33:50):
beautiful. That's why it's called belladonna. They would put it in their
eyes and it would make their eyesmore sparkly and alluring. What, yes,
I mean to their detriment. Butokay, wow, yeah, okay,
me and YouTube we have a date. I gotta go. I gotta
go find out more about that lilyif the valley. You know, it's
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a very sweetly scented little white bellshaped flowers, very pretty highly poisonous.
All parts of it are poisonous ifyou ingest it. Because of its sweet
smell, it can be a particularlyattractive to children, who are of course
smaller in stature, and so itmakes them more susceptible to the poison.
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It doesn't have an aromatic extract thatcan be taken from it, so if
you have Lily of the valley perfume, which is fairly common. It's all
going to be produced with a mixof other sense. It's either synthetic or
a blend of other sense to giveyou the same sort of sa Yeah,
(34:55):
it's common in weddings. Yeah,Katherine Milton and Prince William at their wedding,
she had her bouquet had lily ofthe valley in it. Is there
another name? Is there another namefor is that calidly? No? These
are like small bell shaped flowers.So the calais are large and like and
these are small. It would belike an addition. Usually it's like a
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little spray o. They're like anumber of little dropped flowers that are like
in it. Okay, gotcha.Because the calie is also not good for
animals. No, No, that'sbad. Really, any kind of lilies
not good. But they're pretty.They're so pretty. And then oleanders,
(35:43):
yeah, which all over the Southfrom California to Florida. They end up
on the sides of highways because they'rehearty and pretty. Yeah, but they're
completely poisonous. I remember my parentstelling me, don't eat this. I'm
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like, I'm not going to beeating plants out of the yard most of
the time. I remember being aboutthree and my parents telling me not to
eat the olander, Like why arewe putting a olander around three year olds?
But whatever, I guess it wasalready there at a house. Yeah,
hard to get rid of or something, Yeah, because it's so hardy.
But I even then I remember thinking, why would I want to eat
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that? All right, well,I have to admit that I definitely did
some eating of the plants when Iwas younger. Yeah, because from are
delicious and there's like wild onions andstuff. Yeah, so we ate some
flowers when we were younger because there'ssome that are kind of yummy. They're
delicious, Yeah, well exactly.But I wouldn't like, like somebody had
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to tell me they were good toeat. I wouldn't just eat these things.
I was not that kind of kid. No. I was not like,
oh, I wonder if this isdelicious? Like, no, did
those berries come out of the refrigeratoror no? Thank you? My family
forced me to eat leaves. Iwonder if these are good? Tell us
good berries sounds good to me?Because you know, I stayed outside all
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day, right, hose and whateveryou can find Foraging Foraging. All right,
we're gonna take a quick break andthen we'll share all the fun bits
of our gameplay and we'll let youknow if we win without spoiling it for
you. So if you want toplay, and uh yeah, it's gonna
(37:36):
be eat good time, so comeback. All of the sources that we
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We love to hear from you.You might learn a little something too
here we are coming up next,we have our spoiler free gameplay of Hunted
Killers Mystery at Magnolia Garden. SoI included lots of cute fun stuff,
(38:25):
but it's completely spoiler free. Soif you want to play this game,
absolutely feel free to listen. It'ssuper fun. We had a great,
great time. You're going to hearsome fun things that we said while we
were solving the puzzles and working outwho the culprit was and did we figure
(38:45):
that out. You'll get to hearall that up next next time that we
have a hiatus, I'm going todo our spoiler full version of Mystery at
Magnolia Garden. It's a super longepisode. There'll be some outtakes from the
first part of our conversation and thenmost of our gameplay. For the super
(39:09):
long time that we recorded to playthis game, we had a really good
time, and so that will becoming up in the next few months.
But today right now, spoiler freejust for you, so want to let
you know that that's what is happeningup next. You don't have to worry
(39:29):
that if you want to go andtry and play this game and see if
you can solve it yourself, thatwill have spoiled it for you. We
won't enjoy Hello, there's trouble atMagnolia Gardens, a botanical garden in my
hometown of River Heights. I needyour help to get to the bottom of
it before anyone gets hurt any worsethan they already have been, including myself.
(39:53):
Through the rest of the evidence tosee what you find, It's up
to you, Nancy Drew Okay,so I'm drinking coffee today, not tea
means motive and opportunity. All right, here, I'll read the uh the
notes. Okay, Nancy Drew's notes. So the symptoms reported we're throbbing headaches.
(40:22):
Took the strainer and strain strainer bagfrom Florence's office as evidence. Nice,
look at how cute that is.I mean, we get a little
bag with a tea strainer and it'seven got the little pink stain on it.
I mean it's a horrible a literaltea strainer. Tea strainer. Yes,
(40:43):
like I could make tea with that. You can actually use this or
a mole. You can mold something, You can mold something or would always
use these things, bowler, I'lluse them in my instant pot. If
I'm doing suits and you want likespices in it, I'll put them in
the t strain so that it getsin the broth rather than right, and
then I don't like them or whatever, right and well, and I don't
(41:05):
have to sift them out. Yeah, we're gonna have to do a code.
There's a code. Together, wecan figure it out. This is
a weird code. It is aweird code, but we'll figure it out.
Took a map of Magnolia gardens toguide me around right here. Yes,
(41:29):
oh yeah, so there's a wholegosh, it's so cool. We
need a bulletin board. We doneed We need to like use the We
need to like post everything because lookwe have suspect cards too. Yeah,
and like or like character cards.Right yeah, I don't like give you
(41:52):
bad vibes. Yeah, but Oliveris a cute Oh, Oliver is cute.
It was like white Jesus. Hedoes look like Jesus. I mean
we made Jesus to look absolutely adorable. I mean as a man with his
sandals. Just give that man aguitar. Look at how cute this is.
(42:15):
It's a box when I know yourgardens with a little it's a legit
lock lock. Like you could usethis yeah oh well actually you couldn't because
it's not t s a certifi doesn'thave the hole in it. But it's
like it's works like a luggage tag. Yeah, but for something else,
like you know, small locker ora little trunk or a diary, a
(42:37):
diary or this little tin or thistin, we could keep it locked.
It's a pencil case. Oh Okay, it's a pencil. Cool. I
wonder there's something something in it.I feel like a kid at Christmas.
I hope it will break it.Maybe be more gentle, Okay, I
(43:00):
don't think you need to, butthat's wine. And then find an interesting
looking facts in doctor La Tour's officeand borrowed it. That was one of
that was one of the things thatI did read about when we were reading
about Nancy Drew. She stole,she broke and entered. She like got
(43:23):
into stuff, but like but likeall in the name of solving the mystery.
Oh for sure. Yeah, wejust borrowed this, borrowed it.
She borrowed the facts. Tara replies, apologies, I was busy with the
f F lecture yesterday. That's theFiday to La must have slipped my mind.
(43:45):
Maybe you'd understand what it's like tohave a multitask two. Sorry,
maybe you'd understand what it's like tohave to multitask if you'd been promoted for
the record, though it was aregular tomato soup and nothing from the lab.
Okay, and then I might notbe nearly as busy as you are
(44:06):
trying to salvage that project of yours. But I find ways to Ocumiye,
it my time. Next time brainclam chowder. Oo, don't warm that
up in the microwave. Gross,we gotta say makeshift pinboard. Yes,
we got pins. We got threadto connect our dots. Listen, we're
(44:29):
I'm standing. I pulled, Ipulled the mic up and everything. Somebody
can't realize they were wrong less they'realive to see it. So I don't
know, I am either. It'sa question. It's a question. Now
did we read Sherwood's Yeah, wedid, we did. Yeah, I'm
(44:49):
pull it down. Yeah, Ihave to remember. Yeah, okay,
because you read it. Yeah,this is that thing where like you read
it and I heard it and Idon't remember looking at it. Ye.
When my colleague, doctor Sanderson recommendedParker for this position, he repeatedly emphasized
to me how intelligent Parker is andhow much potential he has to become a
skilled researcher. Hey, look atthat. The man has potential potential.
(45:13):
So we're gonna hire him off thispotential, despite the fact that he's should
proven himself error prone. Yeah,okay, interesting, but this is the
same irregular hot but heartbeat and seizureslack of appetite and frothy salvation our stars,
(45:35):
the frothy salvation. That sounds dirtyand it opened it. Yeah,
nice boy. I was. Iwas sitting here as you're looking through this,
(45:58):
talking about it, just trying likerenumber on this starting like a zero
zero zero. So this is whythey stole the things with the pencil case,
because they needed a code, right, all right, Oh there's a
ring. Oh how nice this is. It's like a nice ring I wouldn't
(46:21):
wear. It's a big it's abig man ring. Look at that.
It's a big man ring with flowerson it. It sounds metal. It
is actual metal. Yeah, Ihave big knuckles. Look at that.
I mean I feel like drop somewax on that sucker. It's like it's
(46:43):
like any kind of puzzle, Likeyou start doing it and you're like,
this is gonna take forever. I'mnever gonna get this, and then you
kind of get a little start onit and it gets easier. Sixteen to
ninety minutes, my ass, notone. We have to actually cut and
paste. Yeah, I believe thatthere are there is help. Oh we
(47:09):
don't want help. Oh, Iknow, we don't want help. I'm
just saying that if we decide,we want a little assistance to make sure
that we're going in the right allright, if you still feel stuck or
would like a little help, mysteryegmannoia dot com and navigate to the hints
and reveal I feel confident. Okay, I feel confident before we even looked
(47:34):
at the hints. Yeah, metoo, but we had to be sure,
right, all right, trying toopen it up. Okay, let's
open it. And then oh andthen there's a letter from Nancy. I
hope we get to work together againsomeday, but let's hope the next time
(47:54):
I won't have to get poisoned.First, your friend Nancy drew. Awesome,
that's super cool. Okay, Well, we've done some cut and paste,
uh huh. And we've done somehandprint, handwriting analysis. Huh.
We've done some profiling. Because thefirst thing I said, as I looked
(48:14):
at and I said, that's it. That's right, guy, I look
at this picture. He's so likecreepy, looks side iron like. No,
we know it was from your beginning, Yeah you did. I didn't,
And then of course we did,you know, just some putting the
strings together, which I'm going tohave pictures. Oh oh, I'm I'm
(48:36):
gonna put more up there and takeanother picture in a minute, I'm gonna
put things back and okay. Yeah, and so we'll have some pictures of
our stringed board. Yes, it'sgoing to be super fun. Yeah.
I have some that we've made alongthe way. We have all of our
stuff. Yeah, all of thatI'll put on our social media, you
know where to find that. Ihad a little break in here where you
(48:57):
can hear all that. Find uson the face book, Twitter x or
whatever the heck it's called. Now. Yeah, yeah, okay, I
think this is super fun. I'mso proud of us. I think we
only got to a place where,like I was all like, no hints,
and you were like, we needhints. I I'm done. We're
already pretty much had figured it out, but we wanted to make sure there
(49:20):
wasn't something that we were missing.That was the only reason why I was
willing to go for the hints,because I was like, yeah, and
we we wanted to figure out thecode on the postcard because that was cute.
And and then we actually missed thewhole piece turn over. But it
didn't turn out to really have Itwould have already had we not already come
to the conclusion that we did thenotes right, who's h and that that
(49:45):
the person was the person right,this would have been helpful. This would
have been helpful. But we've alreadygotten there, right, We had already
gotten there. Yeah, awesome,awesome, Well, thanks so much for
joining us today. We really appreciateit. We know that we don't just
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super cool. And next time,we're going to watch a Netflix original movie
that looks really funny. It doeslook and it's one hundred percent on Rotten
Tomatoes. It came to me highlyrecommended by a friend of mine who really
loves movies. She watches all theOscar movies every year because she wants to
(50:49):
be in the No they cloned Tyrone. Jamie Fox, Jamie Fox, maybe
hilarious, hilarious, awesome. Well, until next time, be safe,
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