August 28, 2025 • 63 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Welcome back to Kilerphone, where we explore the intersection of
crime and entertainment every other week. I'm Christy and today
today Jackie and I are taking a wee bit of
a break. So I have tons of outtakes for you,
Lots and lots of fun stuff that didn't make it
into our main episode for whatever reason, because it was
a little mistake or we were just over on time,
(00:33):
and so I couldn't include either an entire section or
a little tangent of a conversation. But they're all here
for you, all of these great fun things. First up,
outtakes from Population eleven. Aliens in the Desert is a lot,
a lot of fun. We talked about some things that
(00:56):
were not in the first episode. Is this a threat?
Jackie shared a video of a spider? Are you kidding me?
If you know Jackie, you know she does not like spiders.
Jackie and I have differing opinions about whether aliens are
friendly or not, and you know, flubs and other stuff.
(01:18):
It's lots of fun. Enjoy it was.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Did we talk about Perry Mooney?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
No, she's not in the first episode.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Oh, she's not in the first episode.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It all runs together when you watch it exactly, and
it's easy to like, just keep going. Oh yeah, easy
to keep going show. She's not in the first she's
not in the first episode. Because I had her on
my list, I was like, yeah, oh no, wait, she's
not in the first episode.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
That is so interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Okay, if you google this, all right, it calls it
a thriller.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I'm like, that is a that is incorrect, sir, No,
I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
That's like, it's a comedy.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
It's a comedy.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
It's like calling the Bear a comedy. Oh my gosh.
Can we just why? I don't I think to get awards?
I think so too. I think they were like, this
is show is gonna win awards, but not if we
put it up as a drama. Only if we put
up as a comedy. I'm like, there are just because
they are funny. Part that doesn't make it a comedy, right.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
There's and they're not as funny as they think they are.
But they could have won awards as a drama. I
fully support.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Them, and that would have been the right category. It
really would have been.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
And then you know, you wouldn't have had the actual
comedy shows lose to the Bear.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, which made no sense, no.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Sense at all, like the bear deserved to win in
the right category.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yes, anyway, okay, we digress, God, But I actually did
share a spider recently.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I made a real what with a spider the only time,
like moments before you murdered it.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I can't know.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It wasn't live.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
It was a real I shared like like, okay, I
shared it for reasons because and then now I have
a hard time looking at it because like the the
something the shine has worn off about it. But it's
this particular spider that is blue, and he pops out
of the ground.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
And if you've ever watched Labyrinth, when he pops out
of the.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Ground, he has a face and jowls and and and
he wasn't that an unsavory uh.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Huh, you were like, look at but I found the
first spider.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
It was kind of adorable.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
And if you've watched Labyrinth, right, the worm, yeah, comes
out and he looks like the worm. So he pops
out of the ground, and all I can hear is
come inside the missus, right, don't go that way, never
go that way, like all I can hear. So I
shared a reel with like a picture with a gift
of the worm and like a saying, and I couldn't
(03:59):
believe myself for doing that.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
And now and now it's on I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Wow, that must have been difficult for us.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
But you should look at it because it is a
weird looking spider. I gotta tell you it's blue. I
hope that's real, that it's blue.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I hope somebody didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
But if even if.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
They did, they should all be like bright colors, because
that would I think that would help.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, yeah, it would help you, It would help me.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
It would not help them survive.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
It might all of us are over here killing them.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
We have a specific fear, a phobia people have, maybe
if they were cute and actually they don't work.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Here though they don't eat the mosquitoes. No, they don't
do anything. They're very lazy, so they don't deserve to
live here.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I've digressed. Okay, remind me. Have you seen you've seen
the whole thing?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Right, I've seen? No? Not quite? Okay, okay, okay, So yeah,
I mean I have an idea of what happened to Hugo. Okay,
I made one past that Hugo makes a reappearance. Okay,
you there, Yes, okay you yeah, Okay, So I don't
think that that's a surprise.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Okay, okay, right, just making No, I don't know that's me.
But yeah, I've seen all the way through, right, So
I didn't know how much I mean to have an
end you would think but or but he could have
ended up dead.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
You wouldn't seen something charged, right, Yeah, because let me
tell you, the aliens they're not going to come and
save us. They're going to come harvest us. So I
really don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I'm a little more hopeful.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I'm so glad you are, because I really think they're
looking at us like batteries. I know. I'm like, stop
sending radio signals out into space, don't tell them where
we are.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I mean, I I think if they can make it here,
they don't need anything else. That's always been the plat
hole for me in some of these movies.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
It's like, if you have the technology to make it
here and you don't actually need us to harvest you don't, okay,
you you you are using the sun, that's it, Like
why you don't need anything else?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
It could be good.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
We're independence day.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, there you go. Oh, I don't need to do
that for psychology break. Okay, so dumb, that's so funny.
They have it.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
It's a section, that's right.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
That's right. They guarantee no alien encounters. They don't know.
I said that wrong. Okay, they don't guarantee that you
won't encounter encounter an alien. They don't guarantee that you
will have an account. No, that came out all overall
(07:04):
these bars, bar pub uh, no bar pubs. That doesn't
make sense.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
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to uncover how the nation's most prolific serial killer went
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(07:32):
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Speaker 1 (07:43):
Next up is our outtakes from the mystery thriller Missing You.
Beverages were consumed. That's going to be a running theme
for a few episodes of Outtakes, because we were recording
on Saturdays when we had our families over, and so
we would bring ourselves a little beverage and then go
(08:05):
have some dinner and play games and stuff like that.
And so for a while I was drinking beverages, beverages,
adult beverages while we recorded. And we've since changed when
we were record, mixed things up a little bit. So
for a few weeks there we have a running theme.
(08:27):
You'll hear that and then flubs because there's always that
you can start your car without a car fob, but
you will wreck your car, you know, stuff like that.
Enjoy I need to make.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
My voice happier again, like flip the switch. That's right.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Well, yeah, so we can do that with us, Yes,
with this, because this is fun.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
This is I know it's about a missing.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It's fun. It's missing. Yeah, yeah, it's it's a ridiculous,
very contained drama fun.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yes, exactly, Yes, I love it.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Excuse me, Oh that alcohol went down so fast.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
You had to peach, didn't you, Yes, peach with.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
A little little It was sweet and delicious. M h
kind of perfect, yeah, Harlan coben At. You know it
doesn't have to be high entertainment.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
No, it can be it could You know what baseball
games are not run?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Are not one? There's a article about like how to
start your car without a key bob. I'll put it
on the social media. I'm not going to talk about it.
And you're really I mean, like older vehicles, you can
hot wire and you can still like do like it'll
work to take a screwdriver and just hammer it into
(10:01):
your key, your ignition if you hang on, if you
have one, that's the thing that's weird. Okay, So yes,
if you have one, you can hammer it in there.
It will break it. You won't be able to use
your key anymore, and you're just gonna make your car
easy to steal. But even the ones that only have
the key fob, like, there's a little switch in there
(10:23):
somewhere that you can basically do the exact same thing
and start your car.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, but if you only have a push button start.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yes, even if you only have a push button start,
there's a fail safe. So if you lose your keys,
there's a way to start it and you can use
the screwdriver hammer method and it will work. There's on
the little like your steering column, there's like a little
cover and you pull this little cover off. It's different
in everyone and you just like.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
There's a place yeah okay.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
She the nurse.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Ice was loud I thought, sorry, that's.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Fine, little drunk, so that it tickled me. Did you just
break your bra I.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Heard some I heard some sas go for sure, damn
well so you can't thirty thirty four.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
It's with some stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Okay, it's a feed of engineering. Sometimes that's going to fail.
You wash it a few times, it's going to fail
it I mean in my chest okay. Sorry. Next up
Apple Cider Vinegar, The Lying Influencer show, based on a
(11:54):
true story. We talk about visiting doctors. Amazing because these
were this was about primarily a woman lying about health
concerns and talk about what it's like to describe ailments
to a doctor and placebos and do they work? And
are there fire ants in Australia and Sweet Valley High
(12:20):
and other stuff. It's fun, enjoy.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I mean it is hard though, because, like when you
go to the doctor and they're trying, you're trying to describe.
So this is something I run into get I get
creative because of the way that my brain works. If
you ask me how is the pain is and you
try to give me these very finite categories, I can't
I don't know which one right now, and the things
(12:46):
I used to describe it, and the analogies are just well,
they fit my.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Personality, but they certainly aren't in a textbook.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
So I have to really catch myself and be like, no,
I have to answer the question they're asking, because what
I want to do is just describe the situation, right,
and that doesn't help them know what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah, if they haven't also experienced that thing, then no,
I probably won't help them.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
No, or if they're not creative individuals, it may feel
like it just doesn't feel I don't know me, yeah enough,
like it doesn't feel factual enough. It feels too but
I'm kind of like I'm making a simile here, like yes, right,
and and they don't They're like no stabbing.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Right, not hot?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, you know whatever, you know, And I'm like, those
are such fine night category.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
It's not exactly hot, but it's not cool. Yeah, it's
not like you stuck me in the oven or the freezer,
but more like the feet in a water on a
cold day, right, yeah, right, like or I.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Just feel like it's a bit sunburnie but like inside
oh yeah, say weird stuff like that, you know what
doing sun bernie on the inside like that makes no sense,
you know.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Trying to stick to regular adjectives, regular adjectives A shame
that I mean, I get it though, like from their perspective,
like if they're trying to diagnose based on the way
that we diagnose, they're really trying to look for those
keywords that prompt their thinking about it, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
And so I'm like, let me not, just let me
not make their job harder. They don't need to decipher me.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
That's a that's a big job. That's a job for
a psychologist. There, you got a diagnostician when you're going
in for pain. Yeah, it's true for sure. Also, I
am one here for a placebo effect.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yes, one hundred here, absolutely sign me up.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yes, placebo effects, yes, because even if you know it's
a polical effect, it's.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
It still works.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Just bananas to me, What is banana? You can fool
your own brains so well.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
My caffeine does not affect me at all.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Right, People talk about like getting the three pm like coffee,
and I feel I have never felt this thing that
people talk about. If I stop drinking caffee to coffee,
I do not have a headache. If I skip coffee
in the morning for whatever reason, I don't have a
headache like when I was pregnant.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
No headache.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Wow, right, Like so, but I don't have any benefit, right,
I love coffee, all caffeinated to me.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I never skipped coffee when I was pregnant. No, neither
of my kids.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
You didn't move to decaf, No, no, I did. They
told me to do it.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I did. I don't know. I did not know. I
was like, but do you know my kids are playing smart?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
You know, not really not most of the time.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
No.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
See, maybe that's the difference because for those who feel it,
they're actual blood pressure rises, your actual heart rate rises.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
And if it doesn't do that to you, maybe.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Not, no problem. It's just part of my morning routine.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
It's a psychological caffee, right, It's a comfort.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I like it, yes, and it makes me feel like
I'm prepared for Monday. I mean, yeah, exactly, all right.
So Belle claimed when she was at the hospital to
have a sensation of being bit by fire ants at
the hospital, and I'm like, she listen to Australia. Does
she even know what fire ants feel like?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
I mean, I feel like if anybody Australia has giant
fire ants.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I can't even imagine. Fire ants actually weren't found confirmed
to be an Australia until two thousand and one.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
What yeah, you're telling me with all of the things
that they have, they don't have fire ants.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
They do have fire ants now, but it wasn't until
two thousand and one that they were confirmed.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
To be brought them there. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I know.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Well, they ended up in the southern United States in
the nineteen thirties. They originated in South America. They accidentally
ended up in the US in my backyard. Oh yeah,
yours of mine, both in every bankyard I've ever had
except for before I can really remember. Yeah, they may
(17:28):
have been in Australia for up to twenty years before that,
but it was the scientific confirmation wasn't until February of
two thousand and one.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I can't help but think the reason they didn't know
they had fire ants is because look what else they
have to do.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Right, They're like, we've got these giant turne might yes.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Exactly, giant animals that will come search you out and
like the swider sor you can start.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I mean, like if I was living there, maybe fire
ants weren't.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Weren't not Ma ried are either, fair fear, But obviously
she'd been bit by them early enough to know what
they are. They are, you know, exactly like if you've
ever had it's been a long time. I thank you.
I have avoided it myself, Yes, I have, Yes, though.
(18:22):
My parents loved to tell a story that I was
three years old and they were out doing like yard
work in front of the house, and I stood in
a fire ant pile while they were doing it, and
then instead of moving, I just stood there and cried
until somebody came and took me out because I was three, right, Yeah,
(18:45):
I think that's the funniest story parents.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I mean the hornets so like fire ants, hornets, hornets
staying so badly and they fly up out of the
ground and just get you, you know what I mean.
But my grandparents had a hornet's nest, which is not
as common. Right, one of those hornets nests is like
a mud and it was always active, and so we
(19:11):
avoid it, avoided it, avoided. In fact, the only time
I got sung really badly by a hornet was actually
in their front yard. But it came out of the
ground and so anyway, one's Thanksgiving. We're over there and
they tell us they give us some sticks, okay, and
they're like, hey, we got a job for you. You got
you got into him, knock that hornet's nest off there.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
And we're like all the cousins are like.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
What, we're gonna do what?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
And so we went over there because we'd be obedient,
and we're over there and like all of us are
hanging back, like who's gonna do what first? And so
like I don't know. One cousin who was a little older,
was like, all right, well, stand back, I'm gonna throw
this thing at it. He throws it and hits it
or like a rock or whatever. It hits the hornet's
nest and nothing happens. We're like, oh, okay, they're just
like planning, you know. And so finally, like we kept
(20:02):
getting closer and like trying more things, and then finally
it was like a pinata, like it's time.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
That's the worst panta ever. We hit it and the
nest falls down. It's empty.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
They played a practical joke on us.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
The exterminators had come and killed the hornets in that nest,
and it was cleared out and now, all of a sudden,
we hear all the snickering around the corner because they
had sent us to fight this hornet's nest that.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
They knew was empty, and we're all afraid. It was
very funny.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
This is one of those times where I'm looking at
you and I'm like, you think this is a funny story.
He is, They got us good, and I don't think
it's a funny story.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
That's awful.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
It's so funny.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
I mean I was maybe like upper elementary, but the
oldest kid was like high school, so it was very funny.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I was hilarious. It was a good it was a
good joke. Okay, I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I'm glad you can laugh at it.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Hindsight, because I said it immediately, we all allow As
soon as we heard them snickering, we realized.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
It was dead.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
That what was that?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
What had happened?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
It was cool to like look at the nest though.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Oh yeah, that is cool to like, yeah, we have
to see like the inside.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Of the read to you. It was like a live audiobook.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
It's so true.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
That's so sweet.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
It's the best. I love that.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
And like, even as an adult, I had a friend
from college and it was.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
When it was when.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Twilight and so we had gone to Hong Kong.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
We were never for like a business conference, but she
was reading aloud like books.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
She was the best because let me tell you, I
that's the only way I read Twilight. This is total aside.
That's the only way I read Twilight was that the
library didn't have the first book. I am convinced that
if they had the first book, I would not have
read the rest of the series.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
It did not take much to summarize the first book
for me, because the first book was all of her
saying he's so pretty.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
She was not wrong, He's so I mean, right, But
that's all it was. She's so pretty and she is
average but special in some way. Yeah, that was all
of it. That was the whole first book. And it
wasn't till the second book that they really got into
like more intricate sort of story.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
And I read the second right because that's what they had,
And then I went on to read the rest of
it and went back and read the first book. And
when I read the first book, I was like, I
would not have kept reading that.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
No, yeah, no, no, my friend Melissa, she just read
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, it was amazing.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Oh well, I guess Le's skip that one. Oh okay,
I had one more. That's fine, all right, that's okay.
Article by doctor Patricia Johnston No Patricia Thompson, by doctor Tatricia,
I've had too much to dream. Finally Belle wanted. Oh no,
(23:22):
wrong one sorry. Is isolated limb infusion. We sort of
covered this already, where cancerous tumors are directly treated with
chemotherapy at high doses actually a thing. We saw this And.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
I do know that there are targeted chemotherapies and and
radiology that they're not radiology radiation, sorry, that they.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Can do for the arm.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I don't know, but I do know that you can
do some targeted stuff, and.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I can understand why, because you can do something much
more powerful if it's not systemic.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Right, And that is exactly it. They called it isolated
limb infusion in the show. Other places might call it
isolated limb perfusion. So it depends on where you're located
as to what they might call it. And it was
actually developed in the nineteen fifties primarily for melanoma because
(24:23):
that is the most common where they treat the melanoma
that's advanced, usually very specifically. It is occasionally used for
sarcomas and other things, and it actually does have a
pretty decent response rate, like seventy five percent, so that's
(24:44):
really quite good, and it's obviously enhanced patient survival over
no treatment whatsoever. The benefits of it are that it
can actually be more effective than systemic treatment without many
(25:05):
side effects. It does carry a risk of infection and
is highly specialized, so if you don't have a doctor
in your area who can specialize in it, it can
be a more challenging situation. Yeah, I would say, depending
(25:26):
on the kind of prognosis that you have, not a
terrible thing to.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
A terrible choice, not a terrible choice.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
So Milla was at the wellness retreat and she was
in the pool reading Sweet Valley High with a book
entitled Dear Sister. Is that a real sweet? I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I definitely had definitely has High, and I.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Don't remember, so Dear Sister is a real title? It
was okay, Elizabeth Wakefield lies in a coma on the
brink of death after a horrible motorcycle accident. Oh huhay,
But it was like number seven in the series. Okay,
and so she you know, she's asked by Arlow, you know,
(26:23):
does she live? She's like, there are one hundred and
fifty books in the series. Yes she lives. Yeah, okay,
so true are they? How many? Was there really one
hundred and fifty books in? There's a crap ton there
there are? I sat that is an excellent estimation. So
(26:44):
Sweet Valley High was written under the name Francine Pascal.
Francine Pascal actually presided over a whole team of ghost
writers who helped her turn these Beat Valley High books out.
They started in nineteen eighty three and went for twenty years,
(27:11):
one hundred and eighty one books in this Sweet Valley High.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Here's what I know. I stopped reading them before they
were done published.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yes, you, they were probably publishing them for a while
before you started reading them. Yeah, because you weren't three
when you started reading them.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
No, but it was probably about six yeah or six yeah, elementary,
because I was quite right, I read at that time.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
But and then there was those and then there was
the Babysitters Club.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, and I read.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
I read a lot, and then I stopped early, I
think because I was forced to read so much and
then I liked it, and then I was done.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I was done.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I spitched completely over to music.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
So like by the time I was in like sixth
seventh grade, I was done. I stopped reading, and then
I didn't really pick it up as an actual Hobbians.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I was adult. Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I read what I had was a signed right, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yes, I mean they're basically so propera romance.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
But my best friend in high school, uh huh okay,
Now she was a reader. She's a libraryan now, so
like hello, like that's what she does. And she would
read to me like she would read in high school.
She would read and we'd lay in bed and she
would read, and we'd like hang out and read.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
So like I didn't have to read.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, she'd read to you. It was like a live audiobook.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
It's You're so true, that's so sweet. It's the best.
I love that.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
And like even as an adult, I had a friend
from college and it was when it was when Twilight
and so we had gone to Hong Kong. We were
never for like a business conference, but she was reading.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Allowed.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Next up is The Sticky, about a fictionalized version of
a real Maple surpice that happened in Canada. We talk
about how you're supposed to talk to people who are
in comas, and you know, don't overstay. You're welcome when
you're visiting somebody who is ailing. We talk about pancakes.
(29:30):
An author quotes herself, that's a big no no. I
Christy didn't watch wrestling when I was younging, but I
did watch a documentary about wrestling and the Dexter reboot. Enjoy.
If you know somebody in a coma and you've known
them for a long time, go talk to them.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
They can they can hear you. I have personal anecdote
I had. Okay, one of my best friends from when
I was a kid had a very severe complication from
multiple scores is a number of years ago, and we
really thought she was dying. And so me and my
friends who still live locally got on the phone and
(30:14):
did a call with her and just talked to her.
And the friend who facilitated this, who is where my
friend is located, uh, said that this is amazing. She
hasn't responded like this to anybody. I mean, and I
mean that's what we did. We sat there and we
reminisced about things that happened when we were kids, and
(30:36):
we told her how much we loved her and that
we wanted her to stay, but if she had to go,
we would understand. And it was like it was. I mean,
the doctors were amazing. They did everything that they absolutely could,
and I'm just happy that me and my friends could
pay play a little tiny part in helping her come
out of that coma. Wow, Yeah, that's really amazing. It's
(31:00):
really cool. Twenty minutes and get your butt out of there. Yep,
unless you're legit having a good time, right, you know,
because I did have visitors when my husband was in
the hospital a few years ago. We did have visitors
where my husband was starting to feel better and we
were just bored, and she brought a game there and
(31:21):
we sat and played a game and that was fun.
She didn't have to leave after twenty minutes. But he
was also feeling.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Better, right exactly, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I mean we didn't feel good, but it was better.
He didn't feel like he was going to die, just
an improvement.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, I've edited out myself saying I'm too drunk to
say this, so.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
It just us having fun. Though, I mean it.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Is, but also like so I like, yeah, whoa, okay,
so there really is a I sniffed right as you said,
So okay, let's try that. I'm partly want to cut
it out anyway over there is, but you know what,
(32:14):
I also try and cut out some of those words.
So and uh, you know these are my transition words,
and I sometimes I leave them and sometimes I cut
them up. Make sense. Maybe said the whole thing all
the way through, because you know, we don't need to say.
You don't need to hear every time I say.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Like, text space editing is going to change your life.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I got I got a guy who will show you
how to do it.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I mean, I know, I know I should do it.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
You can just select remove all of these and I'll
do it.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I know it's pretty cool. But the things I haven't
done yet, the ones that do it, like the other
parts of the it doesn't work for me. I don't know,
I don't know. It's weird. I haven't done the text space.
Yeah that's not I mean, well, and it's not even
that new. Actually, there's programs that have been doing this
for like five six years.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
And I just this one's like, but it.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Is like act, it's really good. It's yes, how do
I say that again? Literaljit, literal Jit's I mean, how
did I say it before? Did I just say literal git?
I think we did. That's what Literally, that's why we
came up. It was little jit. Okay, yeah, okay, yeah,
literally literalit, literal jet. Yeah. The Adobe one is literal jet. Yeah, okay,
(33:41):
all right. I miss pancakes. Yeah, I love oh make
some corn cakes. I love some corn cakes. I just
don't make them anymore. Yeah, I used to. I used
to waffles a lot. Yeah, I used to make Yeah,
I still have a waffle maker, but I haven't made
them in a long time. And I used to make
pancakes every weekend, and then my husband got diabetes so much.
(34:05):
Now it's like, if I'm gonna make pancakes, I have
to make two different kinds. Are freaking expensive to me, exactly,
and I'd really rather just not make them.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I know, I get that, Yeah, I know. I mean,
like the pancakes. I used to make pancakes or waffles
more often, and I would make enough and I would
freeze them and that was their eggo.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Waffles because you could still just yes, pop in a toaster.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
It weren't the same. Yes, it was great, Yes, it
was great. Also, Ego waffles somewhat. I mean, they're just delicious.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I don't know what they do. They come up all crispy,
they're you know, magic dust. They're great. Okay, this isn't
a slide. I'm a little suspect because the article is
listed as written by Rose Wilson and she quotes herself
a bunch, which I don't like.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I do not like that.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
That said, it's interesting that'll be in a photus episode.
I'm not main episode, but I wanted you to know. Yeah,
but any of those names that were smelling.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
With his eyebrow up.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
I hardly know any of that because I never watched
any wrestling. Not no, not at all. I was never
really interested.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Oh it wasn't interested, but it didn't keep me from
watching him.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Oh No, I didn't really care that much. That's not
I like my mental less beefy. But I did watch.
There was recently a whole documentary that came out about
the guy who started the w WE that was fascinating.
I can't remember the name of it.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Watched Flare like.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yes, fair, I like the whole documentary thing. Yes, yes, yes,
oh yes, and he was like, all, like, my husband
has watched all of that. It was so interesting. I
couldn't stop watching it because it was fascinating. I don't
give a tiny little rats ptuty about wrestling, and it
was still so interesting.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
It is a show, yes, it is a show.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
The athleticism is amazing. Yes, right.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I watched it in our age where we knew.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Where we knew it was.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Entertainment, entertainment, a search disolay right sort of thing, and
so I had my favorites.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
I didn't really care about wrestling though, yeah, but still
the entertainment in that era was.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Like, yact, do you know the yeah, these were kings, yes,
of the situation, like look at his acting career. It's
absolutely justified why he was so entertaining and stuff when
he was on w B.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, right, I mean it's fine, and you know, it's
all manufact s, like all the beefs and all the
things are so it really is. I mean, yeah, they were.
They were all mostly buddies outside of it, even if
they were mortal enemies in the ring.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Right, the only difference is actually the top brass, right, Yeah,
that's how it is, but it was so okay.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Have you watched any of the new one the decks? Don't? No,
because I don't have I don't have any way to
watch showtime right now. This is so good. I took
a flight. Oh, yes, that's right. I was in Delta,
so I had access. Uh huh. Oh, it was so good, okay,
I did not think so.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I was fully prepared to tear it to shreds.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Oh, and then you liked to see. I gotta wait
for all of that to be out and all of
Yellow Jackets to be out. I would consider doing like
a a month of showtime so that I could watch it.
Because now, the first season of Yellow Jackets, it's so
good and I haven't watched it yet. Oh my god,
(38:06):
it's do it. It's so much, got to do it.
It's so hard. It's not a binger. Really, Oh it's
not a binger, because I really would like it's disturbing
on a level. I didn't think that I could be bothered.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I'll have to wait till my husband is traveling, and like,
because what happens is with my husband is traveling, then
I binge watch things and I'll stay up till like
two am or more and yeah, that's how it was.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
So but like with that, like at least I know that.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Like I have that extra time, right because you know,
when I was younger, that extra time was used for working, right,
And now now I don't care, So I just beinge things.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Yeah there, that's fine. That's self care, is it? I
don't know. Well, murder as therapy, that's what we talked
about in Murder Mindfully, the very fun German show. I
(39:07):
couldn't find the voice actors. I looked, I couldn't find
who they were. I lost my glasses. How common are
school yard fights? And boy, there's a lot of time
wasted in schools and joy?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yes, and I can't wait to know if you could
find the voice actors.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Oh, I did not look for the voice.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Actor because they sound familiar.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Oh okay, well I will look for that and put
that on the spshoals if I find out.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yes. I had a hard time, Okay, I went looking
immediately because I was like, hmm, this has some three
percent actors in it.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Okay, absolutely, huh like this.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Like there was a couple of voices where I like, oh, oh, oh,
I know you.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Netflix has their favorites they do for these voice actors.
They're doing a very good job of supporting voice actors
and they use them routinely.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
And then and to say, the voice actors, if you're
listening to this right now, you did an amazing job.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
I only recognize you for for small little things that pinpointed.
But I also really liked three percent. I took note
of that was the first time I watched a like
an overdubh where I was like, those voice actors are
freaking acting, and I made note of it.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
So it was so obvious to me.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
So your voices are very like and blazoned in my memory.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
And so when I heard this one, it took me.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
But by the second episode, I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait wait wait they just said a word and it
reminded me so like your voices.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
You didn't you didn't just sound like you. You were
absolutely the character.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I'm just that good. Yeah, out of you. Okay, So
three percent? This murder mindfully? Oh god, what was the
one with the black oh oh oh oh.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
The French The French show.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yes, the French show that I'm about to certain thank
you French white Collar.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Because that's it.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Was like a feel.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
No, it's because white Collar has been overdubbed in French
right now, it's hard to find.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
French show about a thief.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Oh, looping, looping, Yeah, loophole, loophole.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
There was one called money Heist. Yes, that was one
of the first ones that I watch with my husband,
and he is normally really like, I don't like it
when they're overdubbed. He gets all like judgy about it,
and he was like, this is done really well yeah,
and I'm like, yes, yes, it is, so they've really
figured it out. Yes, I lost my glasses. They fell
(41:51):
right off the back of my head. My butt does
not need my glasses to be able to read, because
my butt is illiterate.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Thank you fully, I mean, praise the Lord.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
So Bijorn said he hadn't even been in a schoolyard fight.
I don't even know how common physical fights are at school.
Oh my god, I don't know if I should speak.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
I don't remember anything until I got to high school.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Okay, as far as that, well, that's helpful because that's
where the statistics that I have are from high school age.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
But as a parent, uh huh, I know that my
kiddo was bullied, okay, on a what we would call
in our districted junior like a junior middle school, right, Like,
so was that.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Fifth sixth grade? Okay?
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Right? Where so this district divides it from elementary one
to four, five to six.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Is this intermediate huh?
Speaker 2 (42:55):
And then you have this seventh.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Eighth which is technically middle school, and then you have
this this high school.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Right, so an intermediate school. My child was bullied on.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
A playground.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
And stood his ground, okay.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
And my name is not Karen, No, I was Mama
Karen about it, though.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Yeah, I really was. Sometimes she have to be, you
know what.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
It was good to their credit because if anybody ever,
I don't know, are we popular enough to be docs
if ever anybody was ever to figure this out, But
like the administration was very actually open ears to what
I had to say about it.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
We had a good conversation.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
But basically a kid was bullying him as start and
pulled back to throw a punch, and my son was like,
oh no, no, no no, and had taken taekwondo and
was about a red belt at the time and was
like nope, and put that kid on the ground and
I held him until the teachers arrived. Right. This was
(43:58):
after twice telling the teacher is that the kid was
following him and threatening him.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Oh yes, So it wasn't an all a happy story.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
But he was also a vice president of.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
The student council at the time, and the administration wanted
to hold him as responsible as the kid who was
about to conis him in the face and was about
to give him suspension.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Oh no, oh no, no no.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
So my son made his argument. The vice principal calls me,
tells me what's happened. I make an argument right then
and there off the cuff, like based on what I've heard,
And she goes, oh, that's very interesting because it is
what your son just said.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
I guess we should have a meeting. I was like, yeah,
I guess, so, okay.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
So we had a Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
So we had a meeting and they were very all
ears to my idea about consent. I was like, you
mean to tell me the only way for him to
avoid being punished was to accept the punch to the face.
And they were like, well yes, And I was like, well,
that's terrible because of what you're teaching them all of
(45:03):
these students, is that consent doesn't matter that you're only
allowed to fight back once you've already been assaulted.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
And I feel like in our.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Great state of Texas, the idea that we don't have
to go through that when we see it coming ought
to matter. He should be able to defend himself from
having been assaulted to begin with. The administration agreed and
created new in service training.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Wow yeah, because there you know, if stand your ground
is for guns, maybe it should be for other things.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Right, And so he was being held accountable really because
he was vice president of the student council.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
They wanted to set an example.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
And I showed, I showed quickly that that was really
irresponsible for them.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
They was in fifth grade. Come on, yeah, right, it's sweet.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
He has a lot of ideas.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
He annoys you all all day long.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
With it all his wonderful ideas which everybody agrees with.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
By the way, also, this is.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Not a moment you've set an example. You will have
girls raped.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
By the time they're in high school, right, and I
will explain to you every step of how that happens.
And they were like, you're so right, And they started
intro and a new in service training because they realized
that the teachers who ignored the cries about the bullying
resulted in the situation, but also that they can't report
(46:24):
in the same way.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
These two children were not in a fight.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
No one defended himself against assault. That's a different thing.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Super fair.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
An aside about this episode, So.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Students who are in high school reported having a fight
anywhere at a rate of thirty one percent in two
thousand and nine. By twenty nineteen, that fell to twenty
two percent. I agree, I'm easy that yeah, like a big,
a big change. And that on a school campus where
(47:03):
like an actual school yard fight for a high schooler
fell from eleven percent in two thousand and nine to
eight percent in twenty nineteen. I'm like, okay, well that's good.
So it's falling, and it's it's fallen since the mid
nineties when and I would have been so back in
(47:24):
the mid nineties it was sixteen percent of kids who
had like an on campus altercation of some kind.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Where the football coaches came.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Yeah out of nowhere, any teacher and just barre.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Hugged them out of it.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Yes, I did have one chick with a knife, Yeah,
with a knife.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
There was one knife fight. Yeah, when I was in
high school, she was disturbed. Yeah, yeah, I mean it
was poor kids. But however, kids now are more likely
to stay home because they feel threatened at school. So
there's a whole issue of avoiding the situation and not
(48:08):
ending up not having that physical altercation, which is just
kind of interesting.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
It's a sad story because also fights on campus are
now legally prosecuted, whereas in our day, the coaches came
and they stopped it, and they mediated it, and they
chalked it up, except.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
For then I fight.
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Yeah, she was disturbed. It was still coaches that gave
stopped it. That was after she tried to stab somebody
with a pencil. The girl was absolutely disturbed. And and
you know what I will say, my high school, my
kids and my husband will tell me annoyingly.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
So was beautiful in a weird way.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
Everybody felt so much like empathy, Like people inquired about.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Like how she doing, Like does it ben heard anything?
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Like is she okay?
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Like people were really concerned about her for a long time,
and so, like, you know, we.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Had kind of that kind of that kind of school,
you know.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
But also our football coach is murdered by his son
with an axe.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
So it's amazing what that does.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
To call us a group of individuals no violence.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Wow. Wow, Okay, yeah, there's that. Okay, we're gonna move on.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
The grass is not greener on the other side, it
just has more per wiser in it. What we learned
in America during COVID was how much time is wasted
in our school day.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
That's fair.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
And I don't know how. I haven't done the research.
I'll have come I've come out with a lot of
research questions though, because when I noticed from my kids observations,
you know, and observing my children. So I had one
that was in a charter school, right, had a lot
asynchronous classes, so the same amount of classes, basically the
same amount of work, but maybe a little ish maybe
(50:01):
sometimes it was a little like Christmas Tree, but not.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
As much as you could still study as much as
you wanted to.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
You could still learn and he would be done at
noon one, yeah, having done all the courses, yeah, right,
and learned things.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
And I would say, like the amount.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Of time, yeah, it was a lot of was like,
oh my gosh, really it takes this much time to
get school done. And my kid was like, uh, it.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
Wouldn't have taken that much to like expand my courses
in person.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Sure not all day, yeah, but it did. Yeah, And
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Isn't that inefficient everywhere else?
Speaker 1 (50:41):
I don't know. And I mean there's certain inefficiency whenever
you get a group of people together, So I mean true.
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
But it's more than we used to spend in school.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Sure, sure, well, and they started a lot later.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
They do, they do, But the number of minutes I
did calculate this, Okay, the minutes much longer.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
Yeah, yeah, they yeah, they're required by now to have
more minutes.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
Well, because you know, we don't think all this logically.
You know, history, it takes a lot longer to teach
the longer we're studying it.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Well there's that, and then the science also because well
we've learned new things. Uh.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Also, all the subjects take.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Longer to study.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
So I totally understand that, Like I get, the more
we know, the longer it takes to study.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Right.
Speaker 3 (51:25):
Also, yeah, like there's a and yet they have no
time between classes.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
They have like narrowly like what twenty three minutes for lunch,
Like come on, I don't know, it's weird. It's over
forty hours a week.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
Yeah, I don't know if it's like that for the
German students, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
I maybe it's longer but also more pleasant.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
I don't know. I don't think it's longer. I think
I remember reading that they are like done like German
students are done at like one. Yeah, I don't know.
It's different. Everywhere tests it a little different. Some places
do it better than others. I have no judgment.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
We look into it.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
I'm not looking into it anymore. Somebody else can look
into that. Because my kids are almost done. Yeah, but
I have to deal with them on the GUS college. Yeah. Yeah,
but that's different. We know that's different, and in a
few different ways. You can do diaphragmic breathing. Die. Yes,
(52:28):
that's what I've said it right Wyoming, I'm trying to
cover it up. And finally, our last set of outtakes
for today, Escape at dan Mora, based on our real
(52:49):
prison break. Jackie had some inappropriate thoughts. We talked about
tiny pants. They weren't in the first episode, which is
why we didn't. It didn't make it into the show.
Jackie realized she had the same haircut as tilly and uh,
what constitutes contraband in prison? Enjoying? The days in prison
are monotonous, not only for the innate. Uh huh exactly.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
We'll have to like cut in time for me to
say some of my thoughts.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
Okay they're inappropriate. Oh okay, okay, that'll be him. You
can when we get our refill of coffee, you can
tell me thoughts. Nice.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
It was a weird thing to make.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
Oh, I mean, like he's making pants, so it was
like he made a little I don't know, it felt weird. Yeah,
it was. It was It was fingerpants. Yes, it was fate. Yes,
it's like, well it's tiny and cute. I don't know
if this in the first episode or not. What fingerpants? No,
(54:04):
her taking a bath? Oh no, I no, that's not
in the first episode.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
I could remember.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Oh okay, yeah, I'm just thinking. I'm like, oh no, anyway.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
Okay, who am I?
Speaker 3 (54:38):
She has the same damn haircut, and all of a sudden,
I was like, well, there goes that time to change.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
I can't I can't see it.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
I can't see it.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
Oh no, you're much cut.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
I was like, no, it's just that she had this
haircut and I'm like, oh no, I.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
Can see you too.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
Why did you.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Just say this thought?
Speaker 3 (55:06):
I was like, oh man, mm hmmm, not while this
is so popular, I can't be.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
Just cracked me up. Okay.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
Anyway, it was just it was a funny that was
gonna bother me if I couldn't take it.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
Though. I was surprised that paint was contraband because Matt
had to hide his paints, and I was like, huh.
And then I started thinking about it, and I'm like, oh, well,
it probably has things that could get you high, or
it's just the paint tubes. Sometimes you're made of metal
(55:41):
that might be a little dangerous. Sure, so right, all that. Yeah,
so I was like, oh, okay, well that makes sense.
But I wondered what other things were kind of contraband,
and some of it was surprising. At least in Texas,
(56:01):
postage stamps, blank paper, blank or addressed envelopes are all
considered contraband. They have to buy their stamps from the commissary.
They have to buy their paper from the commissary. You
can't have pre labeled which I'm like, okay.
Speaker 2 (56:19):
Well LSD can be put right on the back of the.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
All of those, Yes, paint, glitter, glue, felt beads. All
of these things can be unfortunately utilized as weapons, so
they can't be brought in greeting cards with musical devices.
I'm like, well, those can be annoying, but you could
(56:43):
probably also take them apart because they have metal pieces
in them, so they don't want like DVDs, CDs, audio videotapes. Again,
they can be fashioned into weapons. No original documents, that
makes just sense. You don't want people's in their birth
certificate or whatever. Obviously metal objects, but that includes things
(57:05):
like staples in paper, which I hadn't even thought of.
I'm like, oh, you can't you see somebody put in
like a hundred staples and something so that they can
have these little bits of metal. To do something with books,
magazines and newspapers have to come directly from the publisher, okay,
or a supplier that's approved, So it could come from
(57:28):
books million but not from you. Yeah, okay, you can't
have any torn out pages. You can't tear pages out
of a magazine or a book and send those on over.
No spiral binding that makes sense. Also maps, calendars, mail
order catalogs, stuff like that, which I'm like Okay, that's weird,
(57:50):
but I guess you don't want like codes sent in
that way.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
That's the only thing I can really that's well as
a first thing.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
I thought, right, no blacked out or altered photos, no
lamination of any kind. I think that's a getting high.
Then there was this one. Any information that contains information
about regarding safety and security of correctional facilities, law enforcement,
(58:20):
or criminal activity, like basically, any news that talks about
how you might not be safe in prison, you can't
have And that seems little. I mean, I get it,
I get it.
Speaker 3 (58:36):
But also this is why the system needs to change, right,
because it's yeah, but I get why they don't want
to stir up right people feeling unsafe and cause a riot.
Speaker 2 (58:50):
I get all of that, right, you.
Speaker 1 (58:52):
Know, I get it. I get it. But also, if
you know that the treatment that you think is wrong
is widespread and other people think it's wrong, and you
should speak up about it to somebody so that it
can get changed, but you don't know, it just seems like.
Speaker 3 (59:12):
That's why, I mean, unfortunately, that's why you need somebody
family or somebody on the outside advocating for you. Sure,
you need to talk to your lawyer. Yeah, like your
lawyer needs to be able to But you know, if
you don't know what's happening, you probably know it's happening
if you're in which is why it feels a little
bit more like a false information sure, rumors or whatever,
like you know, just or making them feel more unsafe
(59:35):
just because their mom's worried.
Speaker 2 (59:37):
Uh huh, you know, like, oh that doesn't sound good.
I don't like how they're doing that.
Speaker 3 (59:40):
You know what this prison over here they were doing that,
Like that doesn't mean that then, so like I can
see for the guards like that's that's kind of stirring
up stuff that they have to deal with.
Speaker 1 (59:51):
And I get it.
Speaker 2 (59:52):
But if your mama, if you're worried, you gotta talk
to your lawyer.
Speaker 3 (59:55):
Yes, get their lawyer to do something, you know, which
I get it.
Speaker 1 (59:59):
Cost money, yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
So it all sucks.
Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Yeah, it all sucks. Now. In twenty twenty, even pre pandemic,
like early Texas prisons tried to ban greeting cards and
anything on colored paper, and they said it was so
that you couldn't put you couldn't send in drugs that
(01:00:24):
way they could be hidden or put on the paper
like you said, LSD put on the paper, it's a
form of connection. Like it couldn't have glue on it.
It couldn't have glitter on it, even if you bought
it at the store. There was like all these things
that they were trying to limit and it really was
(01:00:44):
like a hardship on people, and inmates who talked to
the reporter at the Marshall Project said, that's not how
the drugs are getting in any way.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Yeah, so they come in through the guards. So yeah,
why are you taking away our birthday cards?
Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Really only a tiny percent of the mail. So the
US prisoners received about seven and a half million pieces
of mail in twenty nineteen, and about a half of
one percent were flagged for possible problems. And we don't
(01:01:34):
have any information about when when the suspicious item actually
had anything wrong with it that was against the against
the rules. It's really like not a that big of
a problem. Yeah, it's just not And so in twenty
twenty three they moved to a digital mail platform. So
(01:01:59):
a lot of inmates in Texas have access to individual tablets.
So what they started to do was we're going to
scan in your stuff and you can see it that way,
it's in full color. Yeah, you get you can see
it that way. It's not the same as holding it,
but you actually get to see people's handwriting and you
get to like do the things and it's not the same,
(01:02:23):
but it's sort of. But they also don't have to
worry that somebody is getting LSD or whatever in I.
Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Mean geez, I mean, this is what I'm talking about.
They're just so inefficient because you know what they do
all of that. They spend all this money to do that.
And now we're going to buy tablets because that's cheaper
than just handing them a card, right.
Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
And also we're doing all of.
Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
That just so that we don't have to fix the
money making machine that is the guards bringing in the drugs.
Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Yep, sounds to me like they all belong there.
Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Mm hmm. It's her. Yeah, no, And that is it
for today. Thank you so much for listening, as always,
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We'll have more outtakes for you next time, and after
that we will be back with our two hundredth episode Bananas.
(01:03:39):
Until next time, be safe, be kind, and wash your hands.
Welcome back to Kilerphone, where we explore the intersection of
crime and entertainment every other week. I'm Christy and today
today Jackie and I are taking a wee bit of
a break. So I have tons of outtakes for you,
Lots and lots of fun stuff that didn't make it
into our main episode for whatever reason, because it was
a little mistake or we were just over on time,
(00:33):
and so I couldn't include either an entire section or
a little tangent of a conversation. But they're all here
for you, all of these great fun things. First up,
outtakes from Population eleven. Aliens in the Desert is a lot,
a lot of fun. We talked about some things that
(00:56):
were not in the first episode. Is this a threat?
Jackie shared a video of a spider? Are you kidding me?
If you know Jackie, you know she does not like spiders.
Jackie and I have differing opinions about whether aliens are
friendly or not, and you know, flubs and other stuff.
(01:18):
It's lots of fun. Enjoy it was.
Speaker 2 (01:22):
Did we talk about Perry Mooney?
Speaker 1 (01:24):
No, she's not in the first episode.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Oh, she's not in the first episode.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
It all runs together when you watch it exactly, and
it's easy to like, just keep going. Oh yeah, easy
to keep going show. She's not in the first she's
not in the first episode. Because I had her on
my list, I was like, yeah, oh no, wait, she's
not in the first episode.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
That is so interesting.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
You know what.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Okay, if you google this, all right, it calls it
a thriller.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I'm like, that is a that is incorrect, sir, No,
I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:01):
That's like, it's a comedy.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
It's a comedy.
Speaker 1 (02:04):
It's like calling the Bear a comedy. Oh my gosh.
Can we just why? I don't I think to get awards?
I think so too. I think they were like, this
is show is gonna win awards, but not if we
put it up as a drama. Only if we put
up as a comedy. I'm like, there are just because
they are funny. Part that doesn't make it a comedy, right.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
There's and they're not as funny as they think they are.
But they could have won awards as a drama. I
fully support.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Them, and that would have been the right category. It
really would have been.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
And then you know, you wouldn't have had the actual
comedy shows lose to the Bear.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yeah, which made no sense, no.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Sense at all, like the bear deserved to win in
the right category.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Yes, anyway, okay, we digress, God, But I actually did
share a spider recently.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I made a real what with a spider the only time,
like moments before you murdered it.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
I can't know.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
It wasn't live.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
It was a real I shared like like, okay, I
shared it for reasons because and then now I have
a hard time looking at it because like the the
something the shine has worn off about it. But it's
this particular spider that is blue, and he pops out
of the ground.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
And if you've ever watched Labyrinth, when he pops out
of the.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Ground, he has a face and jowls and and and
he wasn't that an unsavory uh.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Huh, you were like, look at but I found the
first spider.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
It was kind of adorable.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
And if you've watched Labyrinth, right, the worm, yeah, comes
out and he looks like the worm. So he pops
out of the ground, and all I can hear is
come inside the missus, right, don't go that way, never
go that way, like all I can hear. So I
shared a reel with like a picture with a gift
of the worm and like a saying, and I couldn't
(03:59):
believe myself for doing that.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
And now and now it's on I'm like, yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
Wow, that must have been difficult for us.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
But you should look at it because it is a
weird looking spider. I gotta tell you it's blue. I
hope that's real, that it's blue.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
I hope somebody didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
But if even if.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
They did, they should all be like bright colors, because
that would I think that would help.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Yeah, yeah, it would help you, It would help me.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
It would not help them survive.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
It might all of us are over here killing them.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
We have a specific fear, a phobia people have, maybe
if they were cute and actually they don't work.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Here though they don't eat the mosquitoes. No, they don't
do anything. They're very lazy, so they don't deserve to
live here.
Speaker 3 (04:46):
I've digressed. Okay, remind me. Have you seen you've seen
the whole thing?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Right, I've seen? No? Not quite? Okay, okay, okay, So yeah,
I mean I have an idea of what happened to Hugo. Okay,
I made one past that Hugo makes a reappearance. Okay,
you there, Yes, okay you yeah, Okay, So I don't
think that that's a surprise.
Speaker 3 (05:15):
Okay, okay, right, just making No, I don't know that's me.
But yeah, I've seen all the way through, right, So
I didn't know how much I mean to have an
end you would think but or but he could have
ended up dead.
Speaker 1 (05:30):
You wouldn't seen something charged, right, Yeah, because let me
tell you, the aliens they're not going to come and
save us. They're going to come harvest us. So I
really don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
I'm a little more hopeful.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
I'm so glad you are, because I really think they're
looking at us like batteries. I know. I'm like, stop
sending radio signals out into space, don't tell them where
we are.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
I mean, I I think if they can make it here,
they don't need anything else. That's always been the plat
hole for me in some of these movies.
Speaker 3 (06:06):
It's like, if you have the technology to make it
here and you don't actually need us to harvest you don't, okay,
you you you are using the sun, that's it, Like
why you don't need anything else?
Speaker 2 (06:19):
So I don't know.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
It could be good.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
We're independence day.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
Yeah, there you go. Oh, I don't need to do
that for psychology break. Okay, so dumb, that's so funny.
They have it.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
It's a section, that's right.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
That's right. They guarantee no alien encounters. They don't know.
I said that wrong. Okay, they don't guarantee that you
won't encounter encounter an alien. They don't guarantee that you
will have an account. No, that came out all overall
(07:04):
these bars, bar pub uh, no bar pubs. That doesn't
make sense.
Speaker 4 (07:12):
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years later, Crime Adjacent host Chase Patrick returns to Ridgewood
to uncover how the nation's most prolific serial killer went
undiscovered and why he started killing again. In twenty twenty three.
(07:32):
Crime Adjacent is the never ending true crime story told weekly.
Listen to Crime Adjacent wherever you listen to podcasts.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
Next up is our outtakes from the mystery thriller Missing You.
Beverages were consumed. That's going to be a running theme
for a few episodes of Outtakes, because we were recording
on Saturdays when we had our families over, and so
we would bring ourselves a little beverage and then go
(08:05):
have some dinner and play games and stuff like that.
And so for a while I was drinking beverages, beverages,
adult beverages while we recorded. And we've since changed when
we were record, mixed things up a little bit. So
for a few weeks there we have a running theme.
(08:27):
You'll hear that and then flubs because there's always that
you can start your car without a car fob, but
you will wreck your car, you know, stuff like that.
Enjoy I need to make.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
My voice happier again, like flip the switch. That's right.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Well, yeah, so we can do that with us, Yes,
with this, because this is fun.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
This is I know it's about a missing.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
It's fun. It's missing. Yeah, yeah, it's it's a ridiculous,
very contained drama fun.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yes, exactly, Yes, I love it.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
Excuse me, Oh that alcohol went down so fast.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
You had to peach, didn't you, Yes, peach with.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
A little little It was sweet and delicious. M h
kind of perfect, yeah, Harlan coben At. You know it
doesn't have to be high entertainment.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
No, it can be it could You know what baseball
games are not run?
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Are not one? There's a article about like how to
start your car without a key bob. I'll put it
on the social media. I'm not going to talk about it.
And you're really I mean, like older vehicles, you can
hot wire and you can still like do like it'll
work to take a screwdriver and just hammer it into
(10:01):
your key, your ignition if you hang on, if you
have one, that's the thing that's weird. Okay, So yes,
if you have one, you can hammer it in there.
It will break it. You won't be able to use
your key anymore, and you're just gonna make your car
easy to steal. But even the ones that only have
the key fob, like, there's a little switch in there
(10:23):
somewhere that you can basically do the exact same thing
and start your car.
Speaker 2 (10:27):
Yeah, but if you only have a push button start.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Yes, even if you only have a push button start,
there's a fail safe. So if you lose your keys,
there's a way to start it and you can use
the screwdriver hammer method and it will work. There's on
the little like your steering column, there's like a little
cover and you pull this little cover off. It's different
in everyone and you just like.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
There's a place yeah okay.
Speaker 1 (10:54):
She the nurse.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Ice was loud I thought, sorry, that's.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Fine, little drunk, so that it tickled me. Did you just
break your bra I.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
Heard some I heard some sas go for sure, damn
well so you can't thirty thirty four.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yeah, I'm here.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
It's with some stuff.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Okay, it's a feed of engineering. Sometimes that's going to fail.
You wash it a few times, it's going to fail
it I mean in my chest okay. Sorry. Next up
Apple Cider Vinegar, The Lying Influencer show, based on a
(11:54):
true story. We talk about visiting doctors. Amazing because these
were this was about primarily a woman lying about health
concerns and talk about what it's like to describe ailments
to a doctor and placebos and do they work? And
are there fire ants in Australia and Sweet Valley High
(12:20):
and other stuff. It's fun, enjoy.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
I mean it is hard though, because, like when you
go to the doctor and they're trying, you're trying to describe.
So this is something I run into get I get
creative because of the way that my brain works. If
you ask me how is the pain is and you
try to give me these very finite categories, I can't
I don't know which one right now, and the things
(12:46):
I used to describe it, and the analogies are just well,
they fit my.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Personality, but they certainly aren't in a textbook.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
So I have to really catch myself and be like, no,
I have to answer the question they're asking, because what
I want to do is just describe the situation, right,
and that doesn't help them know what it is.
Speaker 1 (13:08):
Yeah, if they haven't also experienced that thing, then no,
I probably won't help them.
Speaker 3 (13:13):
No, or if they're not creative individuals, it may feel
like it just doesn't feel I don't know me, yeah enough,
like it doesn't feel factual enough. It feels too but
I'm kind of like I'm making a simile here, like yes, right,
and and they don't They're like no stabbing.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Right, not hot?
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Yeah, you know whatever, you know, And I'm like, those
are such fine night category.
Speaker 1 (13:41):
It's not exactly hot, but it's not cool. Yeah, it's
not like you stuck me in the oven or the freezer,
but more like the feet in a water on a
cold day, right, yeah, right, like or I.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Just feel like it's a bit sunburnie but like inside
oh yeah, say weird stuff like that, you know what
doing sun bernie on the inside like that makes no sense,
you know.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
Trying to stick to regular adjectives, regular adjectives A shame
that I mean, I get it though, like from their perspective,
like if they're trying to diagnose based on the way
that we diagnose, they're really trying to look for those
keywords that prompt their thinking about it, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
And so I'm like, let me not, just let me
not make their job harder. They don't need to decipher me.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
That's a that's a big job. That's a job for
a psychologist. There, you got a diagnostician when you're going
in for pain. Yeah, it's true for sure. Also, I
am one here for a placebo effect.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Yes, one hundred here, absolutely sign me up.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
Yes, placebo effects, yes, because even if you know it's
a polical effect, it's.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
It still works.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Just bananas to me, What is banana? You can fool
your own brains so well.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
My caffeine does not affect me at all.
Speaker 3 (15:11):
Right, People talk about like getting the three pm like coffee,
and I feel I have never felt this thing that
people talk about. If I stop drinking caffee to coffee,
I do not have a headache. If I skip coffee
in the morning for whatever reason, I don't have a
headache like when I was pregnant.
Speaker 1 (15:26):
No headache.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Wow, right, Like so, but I don't have any benefit, right,
I love coffee, all caffeinated to me.
Speaker 1 (15:40):
I never skipped coffee when I was pregnant. No, neither
of my kids.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
You didn't move to decaf, No, no, I did. They
told me to do it.
Speaker 1 (15:49):
I did. I don't know. I did not know. I
was like, but do you know my kids are playing smart?
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:54):
You know, not really not most of the time.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
No.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
See, maybe that's the difference because for those who feel it,
they're actual blood pressure rises, your actual heart rate rises.
Speaker 2 (16:06):
And if it doesn't do that to you, maybe.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Not, no problem. It's just part of my morning routine.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
It's a psychological caffee, right, It's a comfort.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I like it, yes, and it makes me feel like
I'm prepared for Monday. I mean, yeah, exactly, all right.
So Belle claimed when she was at the hospital to
have a sensation of being bit by fire ants at
the hospital, and I'm like, she listen to Australia. Does
she even know what fire ants feel like?
Speaker 3 (16:36):
I mean, I feel like if anybody Australia has giant
fire ants.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
I can't even imagine. Fire ants actually weren't found confirmed
to be an Australia until two thousand and one.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
What yeah, you're telling me with all of the things
that they have, they don't have fire ants.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
They do have fire ants now, but it wasn't until
two thousand and one that they were confirmed.
Speaker 2 (17:03):
To be brought them there. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
I know.
Speaker 1 (17:06):
Well, they ended up in the southern United States in
the nineteen thirties. They originated in South America. They accidentally
ended up in the US in my backyard. Oh yeah,
yours of mine, both in every bankyard I've ever had
except for before I can really remember. Yeah, they may
(17:28):
have been in Australia for up to twenty years before that,
but it was the scientific confirmation wasn't until February of
two thousand and one.
Speaker 3 (17:38):
I can't help but think the reason they didn't know
they had fire ants is because look what else they
have to do.
Speaker 1 (17:43):
Right, They're like, we've got these giant turne might yes.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Exactly, giant animals that will come search you out and
like the swider sor you can start.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
I mean, like if I was living there, maybe fire
ants weren't.
Speaker 1 (17:59):
Weren't not Ma ried are either, fair fear, But obviously
she'd been bit by them early enough to know what
they are. They are, you know, exactly like if you've
ever had it's been a long time. I thank you.
I have avoided it myself, Yes, I have, Yes, though.
(18:22):
My parents loved to tell a story that I was
three years old and they were out doing like yard
work in front of the house, and I stood in
a fire ant pile while they were doing it, and
then instead of moving, I just stood there and cried
until somebody came and took me out because I was three, right, Yeah,
(18:45):
I think that's the funniest story parents.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
I mean the hornets so like fire ants, hornets, hornets
staying so badly and they fly up out of the
ground and just get you, you know what I mean.
But my grandparents had a hornet's nest, which is not
as common. Right, one of those hornets nests is like
a mud and it was always active, and so we
(19:11):
avoid it, avoided it, avoided. In fact, the only time
I got sung really badly by a hornet was actually
in their front yard. But it came out of the
ground and so anyway, one's Thanksgiving. We're over there and
they tell us they give us some sticks, okay, and
they're like, hey, we got a job for you. You got
you got into him, knock that hornet's nest off there.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
And we're like all the cousins are like.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
What, we're gonna do what?
Speaker 3 (19:38):
And so we went over there because we'd be obedient,
and we're over there and like all of us are
hanging back, like who's gonna do what first? And so
like I don't know. One cousin who was a little older,
was like, all right, well, stand back, I'm gonna throw
this thing at it. He throws it and hits it
or like a rock or whatever. It hits the hornet's
nest and nothing happens. We're like, oh, okay, they're just
like planning, you know. And so finally, like we kept
(20:02):
getting closer and like trying more things, and then finally
it was like a pinata, like it's time.
Speaker 1 (20:08):
That's the worst panta ever. We hit it and the
nest falls down. It's empty.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
They played a practical joke on us.
Speaker 3 (20:16):
The exterminators had come and killed the hornets in that nest,
and it was cleared out and now, all of a sudden,
we hear all the snickering around the corner because they
had sent us to fight this hornet's nest that.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
They knew was empty, and we're all afraid. It was
very funny.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
This is one of those times where I'm looking at
you and I'm like, you think this is a funny story.
He is, They got us good, and I don't think
it's a funny story.
Speaker 2 (20:46):
That's awful.
Speaker 1 (20:47):
It's so funny.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
I mean I was maybe like upper elementary, but the
oldest kid was like high school, so it was very funny.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
I was hilarious. It was a good it was a
good joke. Okay, I'm glad.
Speaker 2 (21:01):
I'm glad you can laugh at it.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
Hindsight, because I said it immediately, we all allow As
soon as we heard them snickering, we realized.
Speaker 1 (21:09):
It was dead.
Speaker 2 (21:10):
That what was that?
Speaker 1 (21:10):
What had happened?
Speaker 2 (21:12):
It was cool to like look at the nest though.
Speaker 3 (21:15):
Oh yeah, that is cool to like, yeah, we have
to see like the inside.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Of the read to you. It was like a live audiobook.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
It's so true.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
That's so sweet.
Speaker 2 (21:28):
It's the best. I love that.
Speaker 3 (21:31):
And like, even as an adult, I had a friend
from college and it was.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
When it was when.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
Twilight and so we had gone to Hong Kong.
Speaker 3 (21:42):
We were never for like a business conference, but she
was reading aloud like books.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
She was the best because let me tell you, I
that's the only way I read Twilight. This is total aside.
That's the only way I read Twilight was that the
library didn't have the first book. I am convinced that
if they had the first book, I would not have
read the rest of the series.
Speaker 3 (22:09):
It did not take much to summarize the first book
for me, because the first book was all of her
saying he's so pretty.
Speaker 1 (22:17):
She was not wrong, He's so I mean, right, But
that's all it was. She's so pretty and she is
average but special in some way. Yeah, that was all
of it. That was the whole first book. And it
wasn't till the second book that they really got into
like more intricate sort of story.
Speaker 2 (22:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (22:37):
And I read the second right because that's what they had,
And then I went on to read the rest of
it and went back and read the first book. And
when I read the first book, I was like, I
would not have kept reading that.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
No, yeah, no, no, my friend Melissa, she just read
the whole thing.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Yeah, it was amazing.
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Oh well, I guess Le's skip that one. Oh okay,
I had one more. That's fine, all right, that's okay.
Article by doctor Patricia Johnston No Patricia Thompson, by doctor Tatricia,
I've had too much to dream. Finally Belle wanted. Oh no,
(23:22):
wrong one sorry. Is isolated limb infusion. We sort of
covered this already, where cancerous tumors are directly treated with
chemotherapy at high doses actually a thing. We saw this And.
Speaker 3 (23:39):
I do know that there are targeted chemotherapies and and
radiology that they're not radiology radiation, sorry, that they.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Can do for the arm.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I don't know, but I do know that you can
do some targeted stuff, and.
Speaker 3 (23:56):
I can understand why, because you can do something much
more powerful if it's not systemic.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
Right, And that is exactly it. They called it isolated
limb infusion in the show. Other places might call it
isolated limb perfusion. So it depends on where you're located
as to what they might call it. And it was
actually developed in the nineteen fifties primarily for melanoma because
(24:23):
that is the most common where they treat the melanoma
that's advanced, usually very specifically. It is occasionally used for
sarcomas and other things, and it actually does have a
pretty decent response rate, like seventy five percent, so that's
(24:44):
really quite good, and it's obviously enhanced patient survival over
no treatment whatsoever. The benefits of it are that it
can actually be more effective than systemic treatment without many
(25:05):
side effects. It does carry a risk of infection and
is highly specialized, so if you don't have a doctor
in your area who can specialize in it, it can
be a more challenging situation. Yeah, I would say, depending
(25:26):
on the kind of prognosis that you have, not a
terrible thing to.
Speaker 2 (25:33):
A terrible choice, not a terrible choice.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
So Milla was at the wellness retreat and she was
in the pool reading Sweet Valley High with a book
entitled Dear Sister. Is that a real sweet? I don't remember.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
I definitely had definitely has High, and I.
Speaker 1 (25:59):
Don't remember, so Dear Sister is a real title? It
was okay, Elizabeth Wakefield lies in a coma on the
brink of death after a horrible motorcycle accident. Oh huhay,
But it was like number seven in the series. Okay,
and so she you know, she's asked by Arlow, you know,
(26:23):
does she live? She's like, there are one hundred and
fifty books in the series. Yes she lives. Yeah, okay,
so true are they? How many? Was there really one
hundred and fifty books in? There's a crap ton there
there are? I sat that is an excellent estimation. So
(26:44):
Sweet Valley High was written under the name Francine Pascal.
Francine Pascal actually presided over a whole team of ghost
writers who helped her turn these Beat Valley High books out.
They started in nineteen eighty three and went for twenty years,
(27:11):
one hundred and eighty one books in this Sweet Valley High.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
Here's what I know. I stopped reading them before they
were done published.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Yes, you, they were probably publishing them for a while
before you started reading them. Yeah, because you weren't three
when you started reading them.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
No, but it was probably about six yeah or six yeah, elementary,
because I was quite right, I read at that time.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
But and then there was those and then there was
the Babysitters Club.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
Yeah, and I read.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
I read a lot, and then I stopped early, I
think because I was forced to read so much and
then I liked it, and then I was done.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
I was done.
Speaker 2 (27:51):
I spitched completely over to music.
Speaker 1 (27:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:53):
So like by the time I was in like sixth
seventh grade, I was done. I stopped reading, and then
I didn't really pick it up as an actual Hobbians.
Speaker 1 (28:01):
I was adult. Yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 2 (28:04):
I read what I had was a signed right, that's fair.
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yes, I mean they're basically so propera romance.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
But my best friend in high school, uh huh okay,
Now she was a reader. She's a libraryan now, so
like hello, like that's what she does. And she would
read to me like she would read in high school.
She would read and we'd lay in bed and she
would read, and we'd like hang out and read.
Speaker 2 (28:33):
So like I didn't have to read.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
Yeah, she'd read to you. It was like a live audiobook.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
It's You're so true, that's so sweet. It's the best.
I love that.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
And like even as an adult, I had a friend
from college and it was when it was when Twilight
and so we had gone to Hong Kong. We were
never for like a business conference, but she was reading.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Allowed.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
Next up is The Sticky, about a fictionalized version of
a real Maple surpice that happened in Canada. We talk
about how you're supposed to talk to people who are
in comas, and you know, don't overstay. You're welcome when
you're visiting somebody who is ailing. We talk about pancakes.
(29:30):
An author quotes herself, that's a big no no. I
Christy didn't watch wrestling when I was younging, but I
did watch a documentary about wrestling and the Dexter reboot. Enjoy.
If you know somebody in a coma and you've known
them for a long time, go talk to them.
Speaker 2 (29:51):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
They can they can hear you. I have personal anecdote
I had. Okay, one of my best friends from when
I was a kid had a very severe complication from
multiple scores is a number of years ago, and we
really thought she was dying. And so me and my
friends who still live locally got on the phone and
(30:14):
did a call with her and just talked to her.
And the friend who facilitated this, who is where my
friend is located, uh, said that this is amazing. She
hasn't responded like this to anybody. I mean, and I
mean that's what we did. We sat there and we
reminisced about things that happened when we were kids, and
(30:36):
we told her how much we loved her and that
we wanted her to stay, but if she had to go,
we would understand. And it was like it was. I mean,
the doctors were amazing. They did everything that they absolutely could,
and I'm just happy that me and my friends could
pay play a little tiny part in helping her come
out of that coma. Wow, Yeah, that's really amazing. It's
(31:00):
really cool. Twenty minutes and get your butt out of there. Yep,
unless you're legit having a good time, right, you know,
because I did have visitors when my husband was in
the hospital a few years ago. We did have visitors
where my husband was starting to feel better and we
were just bored, and she brought a game there and
(31:21):
we sat and played a game and that was fun.
She didn't have to leave after twenty minutes. But he
was also feeling.
Speaker 2 (31:26):
Better, right exactly, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
I mean we didn't feel good, but it was better.
He didn't feel like he was going to die, just
an improvement.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Yeah, I've edited out myself saying I'm too drunk to
say this, so.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
It just us having fun. Though, I mean it.
Speaker 1 (31:53):
Is, but also like so I like, yeah, whoa, okay,
so there really is a I sniffed right as you said,
So okay, let's try that. I'm partly want to cut
it out anyway over there is, but you know what,
(32:14):
I also try and cut out some of those words.
So and uh, you know these are my transition words,
and I sometimes I leave them and sometimes I cut
them up. Make sense. Maybe said the whole thing all
the way through, because you know, we don't need to say.
You don't need to hear every time I say.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Like, text space editing is going to change your life.
Speaker 1 (32:40):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I got I got a guy who will show you
how to do it.
Speaker 1 (32:46):
I mean, I know, I know I should do it.
Speaker 2 (32:49):
You can just select remove all of these and I'll
do it.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
I know it's pretty cool. But the things I haven't
done yet, the ones that do it, like the other
parts of the it doesn't work for me. I don't know,
I don't know. It's weird. I haven't done the text space.
Yeah that's not I mean, well, and it's not even
that new. Actually, there's programs that have been doing this
for like five six years.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
And I just this one's like, but it.
Speaker 1 (33:15):
Is like act, it's really good. It's yes, how do
I say that again? Literaljit, literal Jit's I mean, how
did I say it before? Did I just say literal git?
I think we did. That's what Literally, that's why we
came up. It was little jit. Okay, yeah, okay, yeah,
literally literalit, literal jet. Yeah. The Adobe one is literal jet. Yeah, okay,
(33:41):
all right. I miss pancakes. Yeah, I love oh make
some corn cakes. I love some corn cakes. I just
don't make them anymore. Yeah, I used to. I used
to waffles a lot. Yeah, I used to make Yeah,
I still have a waffle maker, but I haven't made
them in a long time. And I used to make
pancakes every weekend, and then my husband got diabetes so much.
(34:05):
Now it's like, if I'm gonna make pancakes, I have
to make two different kinds. Are freaking expensive to me, exactly,
and I'd really rather just not make them.
Speaker 3 (34:13):
I know, I get that, Yeah, I know. I mean,
like the pancakes. I used to make pancakes or waffles
more often, and I would make enough and I would
freeze them and that was their eggo.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
Waffles because you could still just yes, pop in a toaster.
Speaker 3 (34:27):
It weren't the same. Yes, it was great, Yes, it
was great. Also, Ego waffles somewhat. I mean, they're just delicious.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
I don't know what they do. They come up all crispy,
they're you know, magic dust. They're great. Okay, this isn't
a slide. I'm a little suspect because the article is
listed as written by Rose Wilson and she quotes herself
a bunch, which I don't like.
Speaker 2 (34:54):
I do not like that.
Speaker 1 (34:56):
That said, it's interesting that'll be in a photus episode.
I'm not main episode, but I wanted you to know. Yeah,
but any of those names that were smelling.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
With his eyebrow up.
Speaker 1 (35:16):
I hardly know any of that because I never watched
any wrestling. Not no, not at all. I was never
really interested.
Speaker 2 (35:25):
Oh it wasn't interested, but it didn't keep me from
watching him.
Speaker 1 (35:27):
Oh No, I didn't really care that much. That's not
I like my mental less beefy. But I did watch.
There was recently a whole documentary that came out about
the guy who started the w WE that was fascinating.
I can't remember the name of it.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Watched Flare like.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Yes, fair, I like the whole documentary thing. Yes, yes, yes,
oh yes, and he was like, all, like, my husband
has watched all of that. It was so interesting. I
couldn't stop watching it because it was fascinating. I don't
give a tiny little rats ptuty about wrestling, and it
was still so interesting.
Speaker 2 (36:14):
It is a show, yes, it is a show.
Speaker 1 (36:17):
The athleticism is amazing. Yes, right.
Speaker 2 (36:20):
I watched it in our age where we knew.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
Where we knew it was.
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Entertainment, entertainment, a search disolay right sort of thing, and
so I had my favorites.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
I didn't really care about wrestling though, yeah, but still
the entertainment in that era was.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Like, yact, do you know the yeah, these were kings, yes,
of the situation, like look at his acting career. It's
absolutely justified why he was so entertaining and stuff when
he was on w B.
Speaker 1 (36:55):
Yeah, right, I mean it's fine, and you know, it's
all manufact s, like all the beefs and all the
things are so it really is. I mean, yeah, they were.
They were all mostly buddies outside of it, even if
they were mortal enemies in the ring.
Speaker 3 (37:13):
Right, the only difference is actually the top brass, right, Yeah,
that's how it is, but it was so okay.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Have you watched any of the new one the decks? Don't? No,
because I don't have I don't have any way to
watch showtime right now. This is so good. I took
a flight. Oh, yes, that's right. I was in Delta,
so I had access. Uh huh. Oh, it was so good, okay,
I did not think so.
Speaker 2 (37:43):
I was fully prepared to tear it to shreds.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Oh, and then you liked to see. I gotta wait
for all of that to be out and all of
Yellow Jackets to be out. I would consider doing like
a a month of showtime so that I could watch it.
Because now, the first season of Yellow Jackets, it's so
good and I haven't watched it yet. Oh my god,
(38:06):
it's do it. It's so much, got to do it.
It's so hard. It's not a binger. Really, Oh it's
not a binger, because I really would like it's disturbing
on a level. I didn't think that I could be bothered.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
I'll have to wait till my husband is traveling, and like,
because what happens is with my husband is traveling, then
I binge watch things and I'll stay up till like
two am or more and yeah, that's how it was.
Speaker 2 (38:33):
So but like with that, like at least I know that.
Speaker 3 (38:36):
Like I have that extra time, right because you know,
when I was younger, that extra time was used for working, right,
And now now I don't care, So I just beinge things.
Speaker 1 (38:47):
Yeah there, that's fine. That's self care, is it? I
don't know. Well, murder as therapy, that's what we talked
about in Murder Mindfully, the very fun German show. I
(39:07):
couldn't find the voice actors. I looked, I couldn't find
who they were. I lost my glasses. How common are
school yard fights? And boy, there's a lot of time
wasted in schools and joy?
Speaker 3 (39:22):
Yes, and I can't wait to know if you could
find the voice actors.
Speaker 1 (39:26):
Oh, I did not look for the voice.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Actor because they sound familiar.
Speaker 1 (39:31):
Oh okay, well I will look for that and put
that on the spshoals if I find out.
Speaker 3 (39:35):
Yes. I had a hard time, Okay, I went looking
immediately because I was like, hmm, this has some three
percent actors in it.
Speaker 1 (39:42):
Okay, absolutely, huh like this.
Speaker 2 (39:44):
Like there was a couple of voices where I like, oh, oh, oh,
I know you.
Speaker 1 (39:49):
Netflix has their favorites they do for these voice actors.
They're doing a very good job of supporting voice actors
and they use them routinely.
Speaker 3 (39:59):
And then and to say, the voice actors, if you're
listening to this right now, you did an amazing job.
Speaker 1 (40:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (40:05):
I only recognize you for for small little things that pinpointed.
But I also really liked three percent. I took note
of that was the first time I watched a like
an overdubh where I was like, those voice actors are
freaking acting, and I made note of it.
Speaker 1 (40:22):
So it was so obvious to me.
Speaker 3 (40:24):
So your voices are very like and blazoned in my memory.
Speaker 2 (40:28):
And so when I heard this one, it took me.
Speaker 3 (40:30):
But by the second episode, I was like, wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait wait wait they just said a word and it
reminded me so like your voices.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
You didn't you didn't just sound like you. You were
absolutely the character.
Speaker 1 (40:44):
I'm just that good. Yeah, out of you. Okay, So
three percent? This murder mindfully? Oh god, what was the
one with the black oh oh oh oh.
Speaker 2 (40:56):
The French The French show.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Yes, the French show that I'm about to certain thank
you French white Collar.
Speaker 2 (41:05):
Because that's it.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Was like a feel.
Speaker 3 (41:11):
No, it's because white Collar has been overdubbed in French
right now, it's hard to find.
Speaker 2 (41:15):
French show about a thief.
Speaker 1 (41:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:21):
Oh, looping, looping, Yeah, loophole, loophole.
Speaker 1 (41:27):
There was one called money Heist. Yes, that was one
of the first ones that I watch with my husband,
and he is normally really like, I don't like it
when they're overdubbed. He gets all like judgy about it,
and he was like, this is done really well yeah,
and I'm like, yes, yes, it is, so they've really
figured it out. Yes, I lost my glasses. They fell
(41:51):
right off the back of my head. My butt does
not need my glasses to be able to read, because
my butt is illiterate.
Speaker 2 (41:59):
Thank you fully, I mean, praise the Lord.
Speaker 1 (42:04):
So Bijorn said he hadn't even been in a schoolyard fight.
I don't even know how common physical fights are at school.
Oh my god, I don't know if I should speak.
Speaker 2 (42:22):
I don't remember anything until I got to high school.
Speaker 1 (42:24):
Okay, as far as that, well, that's helpful because that's
where the statistics that I have are from high school age.
Speaker 3 (42:31):
But as a parent, uh huh, I know that my
kiddo was bullied, okay, on a what we would call
in our districted junior like a junior middle school, right, Like,
so was that.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Fifth sixth grade? Okay?
Speaker 3 (42:47):
Right? Where so this district divides it from elementary one
to four, five to six.
Speaker 1 (42:53):
Is this intermediate huh?
Speaker 2 (42:55):
And then you have this seventh.
Speaker 3 (42:57):
Eighth which is technically middle school, and then you have
this this high school.
Speaker 1 (43:01):
Right, so an intermediate school. My child was bullied on.
Speaker 2 (43:06):
A playground.
Speaker 1 (43:09):
And stood his ground, okay.
Speaker 3 (43:12):
And my name is not Karen, No, I was Mama
Karen about it, though.
Speaker 1 (43:18):
Yeah, I really was. Sometimes she have to be, you
know what.
Speaker 3 (43:21):
It was good to their credit because if anybody ever,
I don't know, are we popular enough to be docs
if ever anybody was ever to figure this out, But
like the administration was very actually open ears to what
I had to say about it.
Speaker 1 (43:35):
We had a good conversation.
Speaker 3 (43:38):
But basically a kid was bullying him as start and
pulled back to throw a punch, and my son was like,
oh no, no, no no, and had taken taekwondo and
was about a red belt at the time and was
like nope, and put that kid on the ground and
I held him until the teachers arrived. Right. This was
(43:58):
after twice telling the teacher is that the kid was
following him and threatening him.
Speaker 1 (44:02):
Oh yes, So it wasn't an all a happy story.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
But he was also a vice president of.
Speaker 3 (44:07):
The student council at the time, and the administration wanted
to hold him as responsible as the kid who was
about to conis him in the face and was about
to give him suspension.
Speaker 1 (44:19):
Oh no, oh no, no no.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
So my son made his argument. The vice principal calls me,
tells me what's happened. I make an argument right then
and there off the cuff, like based on what I've heard,
And she goes, oh, that's very interesting because it is
what your son just said.
Speaker 1 (44:37):
I guess we should have a meeting. I was like, yeah,
I guess, so, okay.
Speaker 2 (44:40):
So we had a Yeah.
Speaker 3 (44:42):
So we had a meeting and they were very all
ears to my idea about consent. I was like, you
mean to tell me the only way for him to
avoid being punished was to accept the punch to the face.
And they were like, well yes, And I was like, well,
that's terrible because of what you're teaching them all of
(45:03):
these students, is that consent doesn't matter that you're only
allowed to fight back once you've already been assaulted.
Speaker 1 (45:11):
And I feel like in our.
Speaker 3 (45:12):
Great state of Texas, the idea that we don't have
to go through that when we see it coming ought
to matter. He should be able to defend himself from
having been assaulted to begin with. The administration agreed and
created new in service training.
Speaker 1 (45:28):
Wow yeah, because there you know, if stand your ground
is for guns, maybe it should be for other things.
Speaker 3 (45:36):
Right, And so he was being held accountable really because
he was vice president of the student council.
Speaker 2 (45:41):
They wanted to set an example.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
And I showed, I showed quickly that that was really
irresponsible for them.
Speaker 1 (45:47):
They was in fifth grade. Come on, yeah, right, it's sweet.
Speaker 2 (45:50):
He has a lot of ideas.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
He annoys you all all day long.
Speaker 2 (45:53):
With it all his wonderful ideas which everybody agrees with.
Speaker 1 (45:56):
By the way, also, this is.
Speaker 2 (45:58):
Not a moment you've set an example. You will have
girls raped.
Speaker 3 (46:04):
By the time they're in high school, right, and I
will explain to you every step of how that happens.
And they were like, you're so right, And they started
intro and a new in service training because they realized
that the teachers who ignored the cries about the bullying
resulted in the situation, but also that they can't report
(46:24):
in the same way.
Speaker 1 (46:25):
These two children were not in a fight.
Speaker 2 (46:27):
No one defended himself against assault. That's a different thing.
Speaker 1 (46:31):
Super fair.
Speaker 2 (46:33):
An aside about this episode, So.
Speaker 1 (46:39):
Students who are in high school reported having a fight
anywhere at a rate of thirty one percent in two
thousand and nine. By twenty nineteen, that fell to twenty
two percent. I agree, I'm easy that yeah, like a big,
a big change. And that on a school campus where
(47:03):
like an actual school yard fight for a high schooler
fell from eleven percent in two thousand and nine to
eight percent in twenty nineteen. I'm like, okay, well that's good.
So it's falling, and it's it's fallen since the mid
nineties when and I would have been so back in
(47:24):
the mid nineties it was sixteen percent of kids who
had like an on campus altercation of some kind.
Speaker 2 (47:32):
Where the football coaches came.
Speaker 1 (47:34):
Yeah out of nowhere, any teacher and just barre.
Speaker 2 (47:38):
Hugged them out of it.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
Uh huh.
Speaker 2 (47:39):
Yes, I did have one chick with a knife, Yeah,
with a knife.
Speaker 1 (47:45):
There was one knife fight. Yeah, when I was in
high school, she was disturbed. Yeah, yeah, I mean it
was poor kids. But however, kids now are more likely
to stay home because they feel threatened at school. So
there's a whole issue of avoiding the situation and not
(48:08):
ending up not having that physical altercation, which is just
kind of interesting.
Speaker 3 (48:12):
It's a sad story because also fights on campus are
now legally prosecuted, whereas in our day, the coaches came
and they stopped it, and they mediated it, and they
chalked it up, except.
Speaker 1 (48:26):
For then I fight.
Speaker 3 (48:29):
Yeah, she was disturbed. It was still coaches that gave
stopped it. That was after she tried to stab somebody
with a pencil. The girl was absolutely disturbed. And and
you know what I will say, my high school, my
kids and my husband will tell me annoyingly.
Speaker 1 (48:43):
So was beautiful in a weird way.
Speaker 3 (48:47):
Everybody felt so much like empathy, Like people inquired about.
Speaker 2 (48:52):
Like how she doing, Like does it ben heard anything?
Speaker 1 (48:55):
Like is she okay?
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Like people were really concerned about her for a long time,
and so, like, you know, we.
Speaker 2 (49:01):
Had kind of that kind of that kind of school,
you know.
Speaker 3 (49:05):
But also our football coach is murdered by his son
with an axe.
Speaker 1 (49:09):
So it's amazing what that does.
Speaker 2 (49:11):
To call us a group of individuals no violence.
Speaker 1 (49:15):
Wow. Wow, Okay, yeah, there's that. Okay, we're gonna move on.
Speaker 3 (49:23):
The grass is not greener on the other side, it
just has more per wiser in it. What we learned
in America during COVID was how much time is wasted
in our school day.
Speaker 1 (49:35):
That's fair.
Speaker 3 (49:36):
And I don't know how. I haven't done the research.
I'll have come I've come out with a lot of
research questions though, because when I noticed from my kids observations,
you know, and observing my children. So I had one
that was in a charter school, right, had a lot
asynchronous classes, so the same amount of classes, basically the
same amount of work, but maybe a little ish maybe
(50:01):
sometimes it was a little like Christmas Tree, but not.
Speaker 2 (50:04):
As much as you could still study as much as
you wanted to.
Speaker 3 (50:07):
You could still learn and he would be done at
noon one, yeah, having done all the courses, yeah, right,
and learned things.
Speaker 1 (50:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (50:17):
And I would say, like the amount.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Of time, yeah, it was a lot of was like,
oh my gosh, really it takes this much time to
get school done. And my kid was like, uh, it.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
Wouldn't have taken that much to like expand my courses
in person.
Speaker 1 (50:34):
Sure not all day, yeah, but it did. Yeah, And
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (50:38):
Isn't that inefficient everywhere else?
Speaker 1 (50:41):
I don't know. And I mean there's certain inefficiency whenever
you get a group of people together, So I mean true.
So I don't know.
Speaker 2 (50:49):
But it's more than we used to spend in school.
Speaker 1 (50:51):
Sure, sure, well, and they started a lot later.
Speaker 3 (50:54):
They do, they do, But the number of minutes I
did calculate this, Okay, the minutes much longer.
Speaker 1 (51:01):
Yeah, yeah, they yeah, they're required by now to have
more minutes.
Speaker 3 (51:05):
Well, because you know, we don't think all this logically.
You know, history, it takes a lot longer to teach
the longer we're studying it.
Speaker 1 (51:12):
Uh huh.
Speaker 3 (51:13):
Well there's that, and then the science also because well
we've learned new things. Uh.
Speaker 2 (51:18):
Also, all the subjects take.
Speaker 1 (51:20):
Longer to study.
Speaker 3 (51:21):
So I totally understand that, Like I get, the more
we know, the longer it takes to study.
Speaker 1 (51:25):
Right.
Speaker 3 (51:25):
Also, yeah, like there's a and yet they have no
time between classes.
Speaker 2 (51:32):
They have like narrowly like what twenty three minutes for lunch,
Like come on, I don't know, it's weird. It's over
forty hours a week.
Speaker 1 (51:40):
Yeah, I don't know if it's like that for the
German students, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (51:43):
I maybe it's longer but also more pleasant.
Speaker 1 (51:46):
I don't know. I don't think it's longer. I think
I remember reading that they are like done like German
students are done at like one. Yeah, I don't know.
It's different. Everywhere tests it a little different. Some places
do it better than others. I have no judgment.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
We look into it.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
I'm not looking into it anymore. Somebody else can look
into that. Because my kids are almost done. Yeah, but
I have to deal with them on the GUS college. Yeah. Yeah,
but that's different. We know that's different, and in a
few different ways. You can do diaphragmic breathing. Die. Yes,
(52:28):
that's what I've said it right Wyoming, I'm trying to
cover it up. And finally, our last set of outtakes
for today, Escape at dan Mora, based on our real
(52:49):
prison break. Jackie had some inappropriate thoughts. We talked about
tiny pants. They weren't in the first episode, which is
why we didn't. It didn't make it into the show.
Jackie realized she had the same haircut as tilly and uh,
what constitutes contraband in prison? Enjoying? The days in prison
are monotonous, not only for the innate. Uh huh exactly.
Speaker 3 (53:19):
We'll have to like cut in time for me to
say some of my thoughts.
Speaker 1 (53:24):
Okay they're inappropriate. Oh okay, okay, that'll be him. You
can when we get our refill of coffee, you can
tell me thoughts. Nice.
Speaker 2 (53:40):
It was a weird thing to make.
Speaker 1 (53:42):
Oh, I mean, like he's making pants, so it was
like he made a little I don't know, it felt weird. Yeah,
it was. It was It was fingerpants. Yes, it was fate. Yes,
it's like, well it's tiny and cute. I don't know
if this in the first episode or not. What fingerpants? No,
(54:04):
her taking a bath? Oh no, I no, that's not
in the first episode.
Speaker 2 (54:10):
I could remember.
Speaker 1 (54:13):
Oh okay, yeah, I'm just thinking. I'm like, oh no, anyway.
Speaker 2 (54:34):
Okay, who am I?
Speaker 3 (54:38):
She has the same damn haircut, and all of a sudden,
I was like, well, there goes that time to change.
Speaker 1 (54:45):
I can't I can't see it.
Speaker 2 (54:47):
I can't see it.
Speaker 1 (54:48):
Oh no, you're much cut.
Speaker 3 (54:51):
I was like, no, it's just that she had this
haircut and I'm like, oh no, I.
Speaker 2 (54:58):
Can see you too.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
Why did you.
Speaker 2 (55:05):
Just say this thought?
Speaker 3 (55:06):
I was like, oh man, mm hmmm, not while this
is so popular, I can't be.
Speaker 1 (55:13):
Just cracked me up. Okay.
Speaker 3 (55:14):
Anyway, it was just it was a funny that was
gonna bother me if I couldn't take it.
Speaker 1 (55:19):
Though. I was surprised that paint was contraband because Matt
had to hide his paints, and I was like, huh.
And then I started thinking about it, and I'm like, oh, well,
it probably has things that could get you high, or
it's just the paint tubes. Sometimes you're made of metal
(55:41):
that might be a little dangerous. Sure, so right, all that. Yeah,
so I was like, oh, okay, well that makes sense.
But I wondered what other things were kind of contraband,
and some of it was surprising. At least in Texas,
(56:01):
postage stamps, blank paper, blank or addressed envelopes are all
considered contraband. They have to buy their stamps from the commissary.
They have to buy their paper from the commissary. You
can't have pre labeled which I'm like, okay.
Speaker 2 (56:19):
Well LSD can be put right on the back of the.
Speaker 1 (56:22):
All of those, Yes, paint, glitter, glue, felt beads. All
of these things can be unfortunately utilized as weapons, so
they can't be brought in greeting cards with musical devices.
I'm like, well, those can be annoying, but you could
(56:43):
probably also take them apart because they have metal pieces
in them, so they don't want like DVDs, CDs, audio videotapes. Again,
they can be fashioned into weapons. No original documents, that
makes just sense. You don't want people's in their birth
certificate or whatever. Obviously metal objects, but that includes things
(57:05):
like staples in paper, which I hadn't even thought of.
I'm like, oh, you can't you see somebody put in
like a hundred staples and something so that they can
have these little bits of metal. To do something with books,
magazines and newspapers have to come directly from the publisher, okay,
or a supplier that's approved, So it could come from
(57:28):
books million but not from you. Yeah, okay, you can't
have any torn out pages. You can't tear pages out
of a magazine or a book and send those on over.
No spiral binding that makes sense. Also maps, calendars, mail
order catalogs, stuff like that, which I'm like Okay, that's weird,
(57:50):
but I guess you don't want like codes sent in
that way.
Speaker 2 (57:55):
That's the only thing I can really that's well as
a first thing.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
I thought, right, no blacked out or altered photos, no
lamination of any kind. I think that's a getting high.
Then there was this one. Any information that contains information
about regarding safety and security of correctional facilities, law enforcement,
(58:20):
or criminal activity, like basically, any news that talks about
how you might not be safe in prison, you can't
have And that seems little. I mean, I get it,
I get it.
Speaker 3 (58:36):
But also this is why the system needs to change, right,
because it's yeah, but I get why they don't want
to stir up right people feeling unsafe and cause a riot.
Speaker 2 (58:50):
I get all of that, right, you.
Speaker 1 (58:52):
Know, I get it. I get it. But also, if
you know that the treatment that you think is wrong
is widespread and other people think it's wrong, and you
should speak up about it to somebody so that it
can get changed, but you don't know, it just seems like.
Speaker 3 (59:12):
That's why, I mean, unfortunately, that's why you need somebody
family or somebody on the outside advocating for you. Sure,
you need to talk to your lawyer. Yeah, like your
lawyer needs to be able to But you know, if
you don't know what's happening, you probably know it's happening
if you're in which is why it feels a little
bit more like a false information sure, rumors or whatever,
like you know, just or making them feel more unsafe
(59:35):
just because their mom's worried.
Speaker 2 (59:37):
Uh huh, you know, like, oh that doesn't sound good.
I don't like how they're doing that.
Speaker 3 (59:40):
You know what this prison over here they were doing that,
Like that doesn't mean that then, so like I can
see for the guards like that's that's kind of stirring
up stuff that they have to deal with.
Speaker 1 (59:51):
And I get it.
Speaker 2 (59:52):
But if your mama, if you're worried, you gotta talk
to your lawyer.
Speaker 3 (59:55):
Yes, get their lawyer to do something, you know, which
I get it.
Speaker 1 (59:59):
Cost money, yes, exactly.
Speaker 2 (01:00:01):
So it all sucks.
Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
Yeah, it all sucks. Now. In twenty twenty, even pre pandemic,
like early Texas prisons tried to ban greeting cards and
anything on colored paper, and they said it was so
that you couldn't put you couldn't send in drugs that
(01:00:24):
way they could be hidden or put on the paper
like you said, LSD put on the paper, it's a
form of connection. Like it couldn't have glue on it.
It couldn't have glitter on it, even if you bought
it at the store. There was like all these things
that they were trying to limit and it really was
(01:00:44):
like a hardship on people, and inmates who talked to
the reporter at the Marshall Project said, that's not how
the drugs are getting in any way.
Speaker 2 (01:00:58):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Yeah, so they come in through the guards. So yeah,
why are you taking away our birthday cards?
Speaker 2 (01:01:09):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (01:01:11):
Really only a tiny percent of the mail. So the
US prisoners received about seven and a half million pieces
of mail in twenty nineteen, and about a half of
one percent were flagged for possible problems. And we don't
(01:01:34):
have any information about when when the suspicious item actually
had anything wrong with it that was against the against
the rules. It's really like not a that big of
a problem. Yeah, it's just not And so in twenty
twenty three they moved to a digital mail platform. So
(01:01:59):
a lot of inmates in Texas have access to individual tablets.
So what they started to do was we're going to
scan in your stuff and you can see it that way,
it's in full color. Yeah, you get you can see
it that way. It's not the same as holding it,
but you actually get to see people's handwriting and you
get to like do the things and it's not the same,
(01:02:23):
but it's sort of. But they also don't have to
worry that somebody is getting LSD or whatever in I.
Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
Mean geez, I mean, this is what I'm talking about.
They're just so inefficient because you know what they do
all of that. They spend all this money to do that.
And now we're going to buy tablets because that's cheaper
than just handing them a card, right.
Speaker 2 (01:02:41):
And also we're doing all of.
Speaker 3 (01:02:44):
That just so that we don't have to fix the
money making machine that is the guards bringing in the drugs.
Speaker 2 (01:02:52):
Yep, sounds to me like they all belong there.
Speaker 1 (01:02:55):
Mm hmm. It's her. Yeah, no, And that is it
for today. Thank you so much for listening, as always,
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