October 5, 2021 • 29 mins
One of the Hottest Teams in Southern Independent Wrestling joins us we talk about the take over on the tag scene and so much more...
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The brand is always hungry, neverfull. And you're listening to King of
Wrestling podcast. This is Johnny Swinger, that King of Swing. You know,
listening to the King of Wrestling podcastand don't sing it, swing it.
And you're listening to the King ofPrison podcast Number one. Ladies and
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gentlemen, my name is Brian PillmanJunior. And you're listening to the Kings
of Wrestling podcast. This is ourYou're listening to the King Wrestling podcast.
And now, yes, I amthe hosting of the most I have no
brillie. It was a matter offact. And I've got two guests here
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today that you know, you getpaid to do something and then you get
this on your desk and you reallycan't turn it down. You know,
you got to bring it in.I do want to welcome Vladimir car from
Charles West the Pride into the show, even though you know y'all are losers
now, but whatever, Hey,come on you what's going on? Vladimir
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and Charles? How are you doing? Vladimir to your title match the night
Brendon? And you do know Iknow where you live. I do,
I do. I'm just getting adrunk. Just just keep thrids in minds.
Well, how are you guys doingtonight? And first off, though,
before we do jumping anything, I'mjust gonna say this. The Pride
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is taking over independent wrestling. Iwill give you that. I mean everything
I turn on tag team titles here, tagged team titles there, just dominating
everywhere. How did and you twoare arts nemesis? I mean, how
did this all come together? Vladimir, you first, and then Charles.
I want you to tell me howthis all came together, because it kind
of you know, Charles, youmade you come back and all that,
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but go ahead, and Vladimir tellus, well, you know you such
a good point. Me and Charleswere the among the worst of enemies once
upon the time. Ever since Chartle'sdebuted in twenty seventeen for DCW, we
went back and forth all over thiscoast, and he did come back last
year and we had battles then andBrimstone was included in what have You?
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And then right after the wild Cardshow whenever we started to him up when
we won d tag team titles,it was probably I would say in January
this year, we had a bookingin Pro South and we went fair and
just that entire weekend, I wouldsay it was magic. And from from
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that point on, I feel likeit's been nothing but sooth smooth sailing.
Now, Charles, I mean youyou was out for a while, you
make your comeback, and you comeback and everything it just looks like it's
back to normal from a year before. And then all of a sudden,
here you are with coal off.Yeah, you would have thought it would
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have been, you know, backto normal. But when I came back,
I was so disgusted with the DCWfans in the DCW locker room that
nobody had stepped up in my absence, and they all expected me to just
come back and carry the burden ofbeing the only one do anything about it,
and I got tired of it.Well, I know that ever since
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you two have joined forces, it'sbeen been something to reckon with, because
I mean, first you capture theDCW Championships, and then just a couple
of weeks ago, you're a newPro Wrestling two two five tag team champions.
I want to kind of touch onthat a little bit. How did
that come about? And because Iknow y'all team did per Wrestling two two
five, And then you get thistitle actually your champions. Well, you
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know what what Heavern there was isthat Laka said. We started to pick
up some steam as a tanking,not just in DCW, but we've over
over the last year. We've intotwo two five, We've been to a
Revolt Pro felt up North Alabama inthat area near Georgia Hall. We've got
a few things on the burning rightnow. And then you know, two
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to five, like I said,gave us the cole. We came in.
We debuted as a team against DNA. We picked up the win there.
We've wrestled the over Boys the firsttime, didn't quit, pick up
the win. And then link yousaid, a few weeks ago, we
did become the Pro Wrestling to twofive tag team Championship night. I think
Charles would agree when I say that, I believe that this area has really
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start a team to see what bothof us are capable of, not just
as individuals, but especially as atag team. I agree. I definitely
agree with that. When two tofive or any company gives us the call
and they tell us we got atag team title shot, and especially with
two two five, it was oursecond tag team title shot. We weren't
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gonna miss that opportunity two times.No, not at all. Yeah,
I've noticed that. Well, I'veknown both of you for a little while,
and I know Vladimir don't miss outon opportunities on anything. He doesn't,
nor you, Charles. And youknow, since you've come back,
you've been a cohesive unit. You'vereally just been like ramming over everybody.
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But Charles, what I want toget into with you is what made you
decide to come back to Rustling,Because I know you took off, you
had the injury, you took off, and then you know you waited a
little while. I mean, Iguess you waited till the right opportunity.
I waited for the right opportunity,well what I thought was the right opportunity.
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And I didn't want to rush oranything. I didn't want to just
come back for just to come back, you know, I really want I
wanted to be one hundred percent healthy, which I was and I still am.
And it was just, you know, when the right opportunity comes along,
you know it, or when areally really good one comes along,
you can't pass it up and lightninghappiness strike. He really did. Vladimir,
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though, you know since Charleston.You have been tag team and not
only have you dominated in the tagteam division, but you've also dominated in
singles competition as well, becoming athree time DCW Heavyweight champion in that time.
Also, you know, winning theBowles on Brass Knuckles Championship, on
the AWA Heavyweight Championship in Texas.I mean, what else is left to
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do it Lucha libre stuff as well. I mean you've just been on fire.
Well, let's not sleep on Totalsa single stuff too. He just
won the DCW Doamond division Takele nolonger going, successfully defended against Chase Matthews.
He's been the longest ranting well overa few years now and just dominating
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at the AWWA and Alabama as theAlabama Heavyweight champions. Totals has absolutely been
gangbusters in singles competition too. Mypartners being Monitors Brand, and you know
as well as anybody that Vladimir Calloffis the best damn wrestler on the entire
Golf coast and in the state ofMississippi. Right now, I can't I
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can't disagree. I can't. Look. I was trying to keep this professional.
Now we don't want to get thatinvolved you know it, And I
was going to bring up Charles andCharles is on a rampage tests. What
I'm saying you both excel in notonly singles competition, but you excel on
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tag team and it's just makes fora daily combination. Let's let's let's be
clear though, Like like we cantalk about individual stuff if you like,
but I will say that that forfor us, we the catch phrase always
hungry, never full. You can, you can say that's the catch phrase
if you want, but really that'sour mentality. We wake up every day
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trying to strive to be better withour diet, lifestyle exactly a lifestyle we
put anywhere. We're not afraid toput the miles on the asphalt traveled to
go as far as possible when thegold everywhere, to make sure that we
get to come back. We're notafraid to put in the work to have
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the very best matches of the night. Whether I'll tell him a lot of
times if we're if we're not taggedhim that night. You know, I
look at Charles and say, well, that's my only competition tonight as far
as I'm concerned as my partner,because I know what the capable of in
the ring, and a lot ofthat comes from the fact that we did
go to war years ago when weboth felt we were in different phases of
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our career career. You know,Charles has been in the business was sixty
years, sixty sixty years and I'maround eight, so in they are different
phases, but the same the sameminds that we felt at the time a
few years ago that we were ratherunderlooked and that hunger from there or just
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led to the success of our rivalry, to our tag team especially, and
that was un potential, that wasuntap potential that I don't even think that
any of us knew about until ithappened, because I'm not sure that anyone
ever thought that we would actually teamup and be as good as a tag
team as I believe we are.And I mean the proofs in the pudding.
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The proof is in the pudding.A lot of these places that we're
going through, some of these placeswe've never been through as a team,
as individuals, any of that,and I just believe that that goes to
our work ethic. We work hard. I mean, make no mistake about
lank or hate us. We workhard every day of our life for what
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we do. Brandon I applied toThat's why I PLU too this way.
Would you rather go to war withsomebody on your side that you didn't know
it was going to have your back? Or would you rather go to war
with somebody that you know when it'stime to go to war, they're gonna
be there. I would definitely.I'll say this. You always go to
war with the devil you know betterand they and the devil you know better
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is the one that you've been inthe room with the most. And and
if anything, you've learned from beingin the room with coal Off. You
know he's gonna Russian tank on myside when we go to war, because
you know he's gonna do whatever ittakes to get the job done, do
whatever it takes, and we're gonnawalk out with the women. Now I
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agree with that. Now, Ido want to touch on something that I
mean, I'm sure both of youare aware of. You know, he
likes to he's like he's got brownlips because he kisses your ass so much.
Coal Off. But uh, Iwant to talk about Chris, that
guy Chambers and his tag team list, you know, pride, shit and
this and all that, Uh isalways good, but uh, the Pride
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wasn't at the top. It wasgf y and he put Ashton, Spears
and Crisis in there. And thelast time I looked, I was the
one tag team and in that group. So I don't know why he's putting
them names out there. Why didn'the put the Pride his number one?
Since h he's always got his.There aren't really that good that really you
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know very much. Tag teams inNorth Mississippi that are ain't good. So
he probably just put what he knew. Yeah, but as far as like
the North Mississippi area of the competitionhas really gone down, as far as
like you know, shock value,wrestling ability and just putting on overall good
shows. Brandon, you are inthe main event one of them shows,
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weren't you? I was okay?See see what I mean? He damn
funny? Oh you try to keephis professional I really am. I'm gonna
need a race for this one.But but anyway, Vladimir, Yeah,
well, Vladimir, let me askyou this though, in my opinion,
even though we have a big differenceright now, we're not getting along.
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You turn me down for breathing ink, you know, but I respect you.
I respect Charles in my opinion,and that's this is just my opinion.
I don't see a tag team dadis even close to the Pride.
And I'm not just saying around here, I'm speaking an independent wrestling. I
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mean, they can say they canname all these names, these guys that
have a cool name, and Imean, I'm saying the prideay in a
cool name. But I'm just saying, like cool names and can't do nothing
in the ring. But you too, you tear it up. I enjoy
it. Well. I just Ijust think we have you know, not
just this has nothing to do withother tag teams that other tag teams find
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intended. But I just believe,and maybe I'm a little by a short,
but they believe we have a totalpackage from inner ring work ethic to
outside the ring branding ethic, topromoting ourselves, to being able to talk
on the microphone, get in thering and get the job done, and
all the above that I honestly feelthat we have a complete package to us
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all. I couldn't agree more.There's nothing in this wrestling business that Vladimir
cole Lost and Charles West can't doyou want you want us to go out
there and talk for ten minutes.We can do that. You want to
brawl, we can brawl, Wecan wrestle, we can give you entertainment,
we can be funny, all thatcrap. We can do every single
thing. We check all the boxes. Agree. Yeah, I'll agree with
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that as well. Now I wantto ask a question before we get any
deeper into this, and I wantVladimir to answer first, and then I
want Charles and they can be thesame answers. I just want to hear
what your answers is in Vladimir,what team? What three teams an independent
wrestling? Would you like to seethe Pride take on three teams? Three
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teams? You know? See,this is the this is the thing about
me with the list, you know, I certainly you know, first of
all, I thought we had areally good take team Mench with Luculocor and
Gray Fury a few months back.Did not quite go exactly how we intended
to pun. I feel like weneed to circle back on that down the
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line. Um. You know mything is with these lists, like I
generally I say, okay, yousee this guy or you see this team,
and I go hey, great,would love to be in the ring
with them. But at the endof the day, maybe this is a
little selfish, but I believe I'mall about the exposure. Put this in
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the ring with whatever promotion feels istheir best tag team, and let us
get in the ring and prove thatperhaps maybe not, maybe the Pride comes
in and becomes the best tag teamat the end of the day. For
me, is no specific I mean, if you want to cush over things,
I think teams all over from theRock and Roll Express, why not
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mentioned them? They're technically independent wrestlingright now. You know they're they're both
let's and why not put the Pridein there with them and see where we
can go with that that As hungrytag teams down in this area, I'd
like to wrestle the over Boys again. We want the tag team play to
us, but not against the overBoys when we first face them. And
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so they're out there, you know, three three seven in Louisiana, they're
out there. There's plenty of opportunitiesout there in terms of teams, but
we honestly, I usually just roundabout to put this in the ring with
your best tag team from your promotion. It's promoters fans. If you're listening
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right now and you're thinking of ashow, whether it's sit down in the
South, the north of a differentcountry, whatever, and you say,
well, the Pride is not asgood as this team. We'll bring us
in and let us prove you wrong. That's how I feel, Joel.
I do agree with Glad. Butwhen I also look at teams, I
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look at who they they they're they'rethe way they promote themselves that you want
to promote themselves as the best andI want to prove you wrong is the
ultimate go So for that, I'mlooking at the day Breakers because they're on
social media running their mouth about howthey're the best tag team on the golf
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coast and you're not. DoD Graciemakes the most. You're not the best
tag team on the golf coast.That's the Pride. The Pride is the
number one tag team. And letme, let me, let me just
to cut you off real quick,because Duk Duk in particular likes to take
us and a lot of stuff.And all I want to tell you your
Duk is this your teammates book andwe will come if you can get it.
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Booked and we can fill up andface your team the day Breakers one
on one. I mean maybe forthe this w take teen titles, maybe
before the l or to take tentitles. It does not matter. To
get book and we will come.But until then, don't run the under
mouth anymore. So yeah, no, no, that's that's that's why we're
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partners. I definitely like we haven'twe haven't had a problem with them,
but I definitely would like to facethe Rapture down in a revolt. Oh
absolutely. And to the last one, I want to rematch with Bray Theory
and Luca Laca because, like yousaid, that didn't go our way last
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time. But those are the topthree teams. But really, like Big
Lad said, every tag team that'slistening right now in the Georgia area,
the Tennessee, Kentucky, Florida,whatever, promoters, do you think you
got the best tag team in yourlocker room, Bring us in, let
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us show you with the project,all about the pride coming all right,
take it away, and then justthe kind of piggyback on yours. You
mentioned the Rapture. They're doing greatthings with the tag team division over in
the Alabama Florida area and we're ata Revolt Pro Wrestling November sixth, and
I'm not quite sure what we're doing, but I would love nothing. I
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mean, did we not help theRapture out a little bit at that last
show? And they coincidentally became tagteam champions over the store? I feel
like, what kind of old oneif they if we want to get technical,
I feel like I feel the sameway, so they see. This
is why Charles is my partner,because he articulates that he thinks of these
things way better than me. I'ma more general guy. He's more of
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a target plan in the tech Anothertag team, you say Georgia as a
team taking over in Georgia by thename of the Exotic Use. I think
if we stepped into the ring,we might make their bags a little lighter,
said the many Exotic Use. Forcalling you out, Let me get
Zach on the phone there and we'llwork. Well, get get him on
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the phone, lets them know,lets them know that we're hungry for gold.
Well, you know, you justnamed a bunch of good tag teams,
and that is one I did wantto bring up because I think I've
seen the running of the trap dotGrace. He's done, you know,
wanting to get the pride in thering the Daybreakers. Yeah, and it's
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funny too. You say that theycalled themselves the best tag team in the
golf steps truck. You you're supposedto have the mentality and Chardo certainly do.
We believe we're the best damn tagteam in the country and beyond.
The only difference is is we've wehaven't stepped into the ring with every tag
team to prove it yet, butthat's only metter of time. But you
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bring up a point. They callus out, We don't call them out.
Don't don't make no think about it. We're nothing afraid to get to
the ring with any team. Butlook at the lay of the land real
quick. You think you're the best, but you're trying to run your mouth
about us. To go to usand to get in the ring with you,
give us something we want, getthe match books. Make it happened
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up, Gracie. We're waiting,That's all we're gonna say about it.
Well, i'd like to see it. I think it'd be a good one.
I'd love to see you in therapture and rape. You're and look
to the Corps for sure, becauseI watched that match and thought it was
damn good. You know there's anotherthere's another take team while you're at it.
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Nothing really, just a divisions asa whole. The Alabama Wrestling Alliance
as all. As I know,you're busy with the Alabama title doing great
things, legendary things. But thosetake team titles I have an eye on
too. Wait a minute, now, the Assassins have the titles right now.
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Well, very true, and theAssassin I have loved their respect for.
But at the end of the day, titles are titles titles. Well,
here we go. I mean,we're getting down to the nitty gritty.
Okay, all right, we're gonnastart wrapping up here in just a
few minutes. But why I don'twant to go to you first? What
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are your what are you wanting toget the rest or get out of the
rest of twenty twenty one? Whatare your goals for the rest of the
year. Well, you know,we both do have singles goals of gold
rather and we have singles opportunities,But definitely on top of that, as
far as the tag teams concerned,I want to pick up some more gold
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before this year is out. Imean, do you talk about the day
Break? I say, are theSWA Tag Teams champions? There was good?
That piece of gold looks nice.The Rapture have the Revolt Tech title.
I believe they have the Combat SportsPro tag titles too, if I
call and those those pieces that goto look nice too. I don't want
more gold. You see the championships, the Straps brother as they like to
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call them. There's the proof inthe pudding of the type of tag team
you are and can be. SoI want more gold, more tag team
gold. Well that's good. Andbefore I get to you, Charles,
I just want to say one morething. Bla me Yeah, getting all
the gold and everything like that onegold, you won't be getting that DCWHA
team get back Hello Rumble has proventhat any rule can be broken. So
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you might not like you may betasting those words a little different, Nigama
Lane. Let me just say this, Let me just say this. I
may find my way to make surethat that Hello Rumbo goes the way I
want it to go, as yousay. So, okay, all right,
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Charles stopped laughing. Uh, whatis your end goals for twenty I'm
not a damn worm. Okay,now I've kept this damn professional. I'm
not a worm, but I knowthat Walter the Worm is looking for some
tag team to management. I mean, he'd ride in with y'all. He
said his cigars are better than yours. I just warned you to know that
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I got rid of my sig.I got rid of my damn cigars because
he put that out. He gotrid of hit cigars because his were better
and you couldn't keep up. Yeah. Well I got rid of my cigars
period. Plus smoke is bad foryou. But after seeing a cigar in
a trailer park, I just couldn'tdo it no more. I mean that
it's not refined no more so,Charles, what's your end goals for twenty
twenty one? As far as mytag team and partner and I he said
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his best more tag team gold.I'd love for us to debut in some
states that we haven't and definitely goback to some companies that we have only
been once or twice. Jeff finallydefinitely want that um My singles goal is
uh. I also need to makesure that John Taylor does extinct. You're
a little t rex bud whoa whoa, they need some main Yeah, it
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needs some maritalin. You do somethingabout that. Brandon, you got all
this money that you're talking about.You can't control your puppets. Oh my
goodness, man, I mean andBrandon Beverly next time make daddy does wants
to run out the cutters and toneon something. Well, look, way,
manager, we were shocked the othernight. We were shot too when
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it came out. Yeah, wewere just shocked that beating in the mess
I took was seeing that. Well, you know, my problem here is
is that G Miller DCW management.Now, then them idiots want to sit
there and say that you got anothershot if you can win the hell rung,
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But you don't deserve that. Itwas in the contract that you only
get one shot. You missed thatshot. The Hello rumbles open for anyone
like you never learned your way intosomething, Brandon, Yeah, exactly,
you were. Okay, okay,I'm gonna just say this. You know
this is getting a little out ofhand right now. So what I'm gonna
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do is I'm gonna say that youknow this is worth the end. You
can plug whatever, you don't carewhat it is. If you've got cookies,
to say you sell them the Floy'shears. Well, you know we
have our Facebook page at the Pride. Be sure to look at them.
You see all that gold is rapedin that tip. Sure that's ours,
that's our page. Be sure tocheck out our individual pages, the Alpha
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Lion Chartle's wist. Let the merecoof kneeds more cooft and just stay just
stay shut up worm, Just staytuned for more, because I believe that
the end of this year, intwenty twenty two and beyond is is looking
mighty fine for the Pride as awhole. Indeed, indeed, definitely agree
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that by our merchant too out there, the mech, by the merch,
We've got a store online. Youcan do some serious Pride shit. And
man, I say, well,I'm on here publicly. One of the
few times I get to do this. I want to congratulate my tag team
partner in February. He's going tohave a beautiful baby boy with his wife
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and expanding the family, adding moreto the Pride. I'm very happy for
my tag team partner. Yes,indeed, yes, indeed, thank you,
sir. I appreciate that absolutely,and I'll give you congratulations. Just
to try to be nice, youknow, Thank you, sir. Maybe
one one day my son will takeyour daughter to problem and leave her there.
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I would dare I wouldn't let mydaughter nowhere near you. I wouldn't
let my doll. Kids can't procreate. Let's just say you let mac daddy
near us all the time, soyou let your dogs arrow? Oh?
Okay, okay, y'all, y'all? Are you see? I tried to
be professional and try to be niceabout you, and you know what else?
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Call off? This is something elseI want to talk about, you
know, the other night, whatdo you do? I do want to
say that I overlooked that I tookanother look at that contract, oh that
you sent me a few months agofor brilliant teams mhm h. And then
I flushed it down until I hada question for you, real question,
all right. I always wanted toask if the interviewer a question? Ready,
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Yeah, I'm ready? How didthe sickle feel? Saturday? Y'all?
Is so funny? You know whatwas so funny about Saturday night?
You know when you did hit mewith that sickle. And I will say
this, I couldn't move Sunday,but I was happy. I was smiling
because we still had the championship.What I want to move, what I
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want to know is is, uh, what I want to know is is
how in the world did you comeout Sarady and people actually cheered you you're
a cheater and and they cheered youand then they called me a cheater.
That's amazing answers. It's amazing thatsometimes sometimes all it takes is a little
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worm like Brendan Turner to yep,yep, yep, like a little chihuahua
to make people love someone like me. You're so funny. All right,
Well, you know what I'm gonnasay is I really appreciate the pride coming
on. Uh, maybe we cando it again. Yeah it is.
Don't let it bounce like it didlast time. Uh huh, my chicks
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don't bounce. But thank y'all,thank y'all warming around. This is Audio
Zoe Production. What's you're thinking,Zoe
The brand is always hungry, neverfull. And you're listening to King of
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listening to the King of Wrestling podcastand don't sing it, swing it.
And you're listening to the King ofPrison podcast Number one. Ladies and
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gentlemen, my name is Brian PillmanJunior. And you're listening to the Kings
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And now, yes, I amthe hosting of the most I have no
brillie. It was a matter offact. And I've got two guests here
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today that you know, you getpaid to do something and then you get
this on your desk and you reallycan't turn it down. You know,
you got to bring it in.I do want to welcome Vladimir car from
Charles West the Pride into the show, even though you know y'all are losers
now, but whatever, Hey,come on you what's going on? Vladimir
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and Charles? How are you doing? Vladimir to your title match the night
Brendon? And you do know Iknow where you live. I do,
I do. I'm just getting adrunk. Just just keep thrids in minds.
Well, how are you guys doingtonight? And first off, though,
before we do jumping anything, I'mjust gonna say this. The Pride
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is taking over independent wrestling. Iwill give you that. I mean everything
I turn on tag team titles here, tagged team titles there, just dominating
everywhere. How did and you twoare arts nemesis? I mean, how
did this all come together? Vladimir, you first, and then Charles.
I want you to tell me howthis all came together, because it kind
of you know, Charles, youmade you come back and all that,
(01:49):
but go ahead, and Vladimir tellus, well, you know you such
a good point. Me and Charleswere the among the worst of enemies once
upon the time. Ever since Chartle'sdebuted in twenty seventeen for DCW, we
went back and forth all over thiscoast, and he did come back last
year and we had battles then andBrimstone was included in what have You?
(02:15):
And then right after the wild Cardshow whenever we started to him up when
we won d tag team titles,it was probably I would say in January
this year, we had a bookingin Pro South and we went fair and
just that entire weekend, I wouldsay it was magic. And from from
(02:35):
that point on, I feel likeit's been nothing but sooth smooth sailing.
Now, Charles, I mean youyou was out for a while, you
make your comeback, and you comeback and everything it just looks like it's
back to normal from a year before. And then all of a sudden,
here you are with coal off.Yeah, you would have thought it would
(02:57):
have been, you know, backto normal. But when I came back,
I was so disgusted with the DCWfans in the DCW locker room that
nobody had stepped up in my absence, and they all expected me to just
come back and carry the burden ofbeing the only one do anything about it,
and I got tired of it.Well, I know that ever since
(03:21):
you two have joined forces, it'sbeen been something to reckon with, because
I mean, first you capture theDCW Championships, and then just a couple
of weeks ago, you're a newPro Wrestling two two five tag team champions.
I want to kind of touch onthat a little bit. How did
that come about? And because Iknow y'all team did per Wrestling two two
five, And then you get thistitle actually your champions. Well, you
(03:49):
know what what Heavern there was isthat Laka said. We started to pick
up some steam as a tanking,not just in DCW, but we've over
over the last year. We've intotwo two five, We've been to a
Revolt Pro felt up North Alabama inthat area near Georgia Hall. We've got
a few things on the burning rightnow. And then you know, two
(04:10):
to five, like I said,gave us the cole. We came in.
We debuted as a team against DNA. We picked up the win there.
We've wrestled the over Boys the firsttime, didn't quit, pick up
the win. And then link yousaid, a few weeks ago, we
did become the Pro Wrestling to twofive tag team Championship night. I think
Charles would agree when I say that, I believe that this area has really
(04:32):
start a team to see what bothof us are capable of, not just
as individuals, but especially as atag team. I agree. I definitely
agree with that. When two tofive or any company gives us the call
and they tell us we got atag team title shot, and especially with
two two five, it was oursecond tag team title shot. We weren't
(04:54):
gonna miss that opportunity two times.No, not at all. Yeah,
I've noticed that. Well, I'veknown both of you for a little while,
and I know Vladimir don't miss outon opportunities on anything. He doesn't,
nor you, Charles. And youknow, since you've come back,
you've been a cohesive unit. You'vereally just been like ramming over everybody.
(05:16):
But Charles, what I want toget into with you is what made you
decide to come back to Rustling,Because I know you took off, you
had the injury, you took off, and then you know you waited a
little while. I mean, Iguess you waited till the right opportunity.
I waited for the right opportunity,well what I thought was the right opportunity.
(05:36):
And I didn't want to rush oranything. I didn't want to just
come back for just to come back, you know, I really want I
wanted to be one hundred percent healthy, which I was and I still am.
And it was just, you know, when the right opportunity comes along,
you know it, or when areally really good one comes along,
you can't pass it up and lightninghappiness strike. He really did. Vladimir,
(06:01):
though, you know since Charleston.You have been tag team and not
only have you dominated in the tagteam division, but you've also dominated in
singles competition as well, becoming athree time DCW Heavyweight champion in that time.
Also, you know, winning theBowles on Brass Knuckles Championship, on
the AWA Heavyweight Championship in Texas.I mean, what else is left to
(06:26):
do it Lucha libre stuff as well. I mean you've just been on fire.
Well, let's not sleep on Totalsa single stuff too. He just
won the DCW Doamond division Takele nolonger going, successfully defended against Chase Matthews.
He's been the longest ranting well overa few years now and just dominating
(06:47):
at the AWWA and Alabama as theAlabama Heavyweight champions. Totals has absolutely been
gangbusters in singles competition too. Mypartners being Monitors Brand, and you know
as well as anybody that Vladimir Calloffis the best damn wrestler on the entire
Golf coast and in the state ofMississippi. Right now, I can't I
(07:10):
can't disagree. I can't. Look. I was trying to keep this professional.
Now we don't want to get thatinvolved you know it, And I
was going to bring up Charles andCharles is on a rampage tests. What
I'm saying you both excel in notonly singles competition, but you excel on
(07:31):
tag team and it's just makes fora daily combination. Let's let's let's be
clear though, Like like we cantalk about individual stuff if you like,
but I will say that that forfor us, we the catch phrase always
hungry, never full. You can, you can say that's the catch phrase
if you want, but really that'sour mentality. We wake up every day
(07:54):
trying to strive to be better withour diet, lifestyle exactly a lifestyle we
put anywhere. We're not afraid toput the miles on the asphalt traveled to
go as far as possible when thegold everywhere, to make sure that we
get to come back. We're notafraid to put in the work to have
(08:16):
the very best matches of the night. Whether I'll tell him a lot of
times if we're if we're not taggedhim that night. You know, I
look at Charles and say, well, that's my only competition tonight as far
as I'm concerned as my partner,because I know what the capable of in
the ring, and a lot ofthat comes from the fact that we did
go to war years ago when weboth felt we were in different phases of
(08:41):
our career career. You know,Charles has been in the business was sixty
years, sixty sixty years and I'maround eight, so in they are different
phases, but the same the sameminds that we felt at the time a
few years ago that we were ratherunderlooked and that hunger from there or just
(09:05):
led to the success of our rivalry, to our tag team especially, and
that was un potential, that wasuntap potential that I don't even think that
any of us knew about until ithappened, because I'm not sure that anyone
ever thought that we would actually teamup and be as good as a tag
team as I believe we are.And I mean the proofs in the pudding.
(09:26):
The proof is in the pudding.A lot of these places that we're
going through, some of these placeswe've never been through as a team,
as individuals, any of that,and I just believe that that goes to
our work ethic. We work hard. I mean, make no mistake about
lank or hate us. We workhard every day of our life for what
(09:48):
we do. Brandon I applied toThat's why I PLU too this way.
Would you rather go to war withsomebody on your side that you didn't know
it was going to have your back? Or would you rather go to war
with somebody that you know when it'stime to go to war, they're gonna
be there. I would definitely.I'll say this. You always go to
war with the devil you know betterand they and the devil you know better
(10:11):
is the one that you've been inthe room with the most. And and
if anything, you've learned from beingin the room with coal Off. You
know he's gonna Russian tank on myside when we go to war, because
you know he's gonna do whatever ittakes to get the job done, do
whatever it takes, and we're gonnawalk out with the women. Now I
(10:31):
agree with that. Now, Ido want to touch on something that I
mean, I'm sure both of youare aware of. You know, he
likes to he's like he's got brownlips because he kisses your ass so much.
Coal Off. But uh, Iwant to talk about Chris, that
guy Chambers and his tag team list, you know, pride, shit and
this and all that, Uh isalways good, but uh, the Pride
(10:52):
wasn't at the top. It wasgf y and he put Ashton, Spears
and Crisis in there. And thelast time I looked, I was the
one tag team and in that group. So I don't know why he's putting
them names out there. Why didn'the put the Pride his number one?
Since h he's always got his.There aren't really that good that really you
(11:13):
know very much. Tag teams inNorth Mississippi that are ain't good. So
he probably just put what he knew. Yeah, but as far as like
the North Mississippi area of the competitionhas really gone down, as far as
like you know, shock value,wrestling ability and just putting on overall good
shows. Brandon, you are inthe main event one of them shows,
(11:33):
weren't you? I was okay?See see what I mean? He damn
funny? Oh you try to keephis professional I really am. I'm gonna
need a race for this one.But but anyway, Vladimir, Yeah,
well, Vladimir, let me askyou this though, in my opinion,
even though we have a big differenceright now, we're not getting along.
(11:58):
You turn me down for breathing ink, you know, but I respect you.
I respect Charles in my opinion,and that's this is just my opinion.
I don't see a tag team dadis even close to the Pride.
And I'm not just saying around here, I'm speaking an independent wrestling. I
(12:18):
mean, they can say they canname all these names, these guys that
have a cool name, and Imean, I'm saying the prideay in a
cool name. But I'm just saying, like cool names and can't do nothing
in the ring. But you too, you tear it up. I enjoy
it. Well. I just Ijust think we have you know, not
just this has nothing to do withother tag teams that other tag teams find
(12:41):
intended. But I just believe,and maybe I'm a little by a short,
but they believe we have a totalpackage from inner ring work ethic to
outside the ring branding ethic, topromoting ourselves, to being able to talk
on the microphone, get in thering and get the job done, and
all the above that I honestly feelthat we have a complete package to us
(13:03):
all. I couldn't agree more.There's nothing in this wrestling business that Vladimir
cole Lost and Charles West can't doyou want you want us to go out
there and talk for ten minutes.We can do that. You want to
brawl, we can brawl, Wecan wrestle, we can give you entertainment,
we can be funny, all thatcrap. We can do every single
thing. We check all the boxes. Agree. Yeah, I'll agree with
(13:26):
that as well. Now I wantto ask a question before we get any
deeper into this, and I wantVladimir to answer first, and then I
want Charles and they can be thesame answers. I just want to hear
what your answers is in Vladimir,what team? What three teams an independent
wrestling? Would you like to seethe Pride take on three teams? Three
(13:48):
teams? You know? See,this is the this is the thing about
me with the list, you know, I certainly you know, first of
all, I thought we had areally good take team Mench with Luculocor and
Gray Fury a few months back.Did not quite go exactly how we intended
to pun. I feel like weneed to circle back on that down the
(14:09):
line. Um. You know mything is with these lists, like I
generally I say, okay, yousee this guy or you see this team,
and I go hey, great,would love to be in the ring
with them. But at the endof the day, maybe this is a
little selfish, but I believe I'mall about the exposure. Put this in
(14:30):
the ring with whatever promotion feels istheir best tag team, and let us
get in the ring and prove thatperhaps maybe not, maybe the Pride comes
in and becomes the best tag teamat the end of the day. For
me, is no specific I mean, if you want to cush over things,
I think teams all over from theRock and Roll Express, why not
(14:54):
mentioned them? They're technically independent wrestlingright now. You know they're they're both
let's and why not put the Pridein there with them and see where we
can go with that that As hungrytag teams down in this area, I'd
like to wrestle the over Boys again. We want the tag team play to
us, but not against the overBoys when we first face them. And
(15:20):
so they're out there, you know, three three seven in Louisiana, they're
out there. There's plenty of opportunitiesout there in terms of teams, but
we honestly, I usually just roundabout to put this in the ring with
your best tag team from your promotion. It's promoters fans. If you're listening
(15:41):
right now and you're thinking of ashow, whether it's sit down in the
South, the north of a differentcountry, whatever, and you say,
well, the Pride is not asgood as this team. We'll bring us
in and let us prove you wrong. That's how I feel, Joel.
I do agree with Glad. Butwhen I also look at teams, I
(16:04):
look at who they they they're they'rethe way they promote themselves that you want
to promote themselves as the best andI want to prove you wrong is the
ultimate go So for that, I'mlooking at the day Breakers because they're on
social media running their mouth about howthey're the best tag team on the golf
(16:26):
coast and you're not. DoD Graciemakes the most. You're not the best
tag team on the golf coast.That's the Pride. The Pride is the
number one tag team. And letme, let me, let me just
to cut you off real quick,because Duk Duk in particular likes to take
us and a lot of stuff.And all I want to tell you your
Duk is this your teammates book andwe will come if you can get it.
(16:52):
Booked and we can fill up andface your team the day Breakers one
on one. I mean maybe forthe this w take teen titles, maybe
before the l or to take tentitles. It does not matter. To
get book and we will come.But until then, don't run the under
mouth anymore. So yeah, no, no, that's that's that's why we're
(17:15):
partners. I definitely like we haven'twe haven't had a problem with them,
but I definitely would like to facethe Rapture down in a revolt. Oh
absolutely. And to the last one, I want to rematch with Bray Theory
and Luca Laca because, like yousaid, that didn't go our way last
(17:36):
time. But those are the topthree teams. But really, like Big
Lad said, every tag team that'slistening right now in the Georgia area,
the Tennessee, Kentucky, Florida,whatever, promoters, do you think you
got the best tag team in yourlocker room, Bring us in, let
(17:56):
us show you with the project,all about the pride coming all right,
take it away, and then justthe kind of piggyback on yours. You
mentioned the Rapture. They're doing greatthings with the tag team division over in
the Alabama Florida area and we're ata Revolt Pro Wrestling November sixth, and
I'm not quite sure what we're doing, but I would love nothing. I
(18:22):
mean, did we not help theRapture out a little bit at that last
show? And they coincidentally became tagteam champions over the store? I feel
like, what kind of old oneif they if we want to get technical,
I feel like I feel the sameway, so they see. This
is why Charles is my partner,because he articulates that he thinks of these
things way better than me. I'ma more general guy. He's more of
(18:45):
a target plan in the tech Anothertag team, you say Georgia as a
team taking over in Georgia by thename of the Exotic Use. I think
if we stepped into the ring,we might make their bags a little lighter,
said the many Exotic Use. Forcalling you out, Let me get
Zach on the phone there and we'llwork. Well, get get him on
(19:07):
the phone, lets them know,lets them know that we're hungry for gold.
Well, you know, you justnamed a bunch of good tag teams,
and that is one I did wantto bring up because I think I've
seen the running of the trap dotGrace. He's done, you know,
wanting to get the pride in thering the Daybreakers. Yeah, and it's
(19:30):
funny too. You say that theycalled themselves the best tag team in the
golf steps truck. You you're supposedto have the mentality and Chardo certainly do.
We believe we're the best damn tagteam in the country and beyond.
The only difference is is we've wehaven't stepped into the ring with every tag
team to prove it yet, butthat's only metter of time. But you
(19:52):
bring up a point. They callus out, We don't call them out.
Don't don't make no think about it. We're nothing afraid to get to
the ring with any team. Butlook at the lay of the land real
quick. You think you're the best, but you're trying to run your mouth
about us. To go to usand to get in the ring with you,
give us something we want, getthe match books. Make it happened
(20:17):
up, Gracie. We're waiting,That's all we're gonna say about it.
Well, i'd like to see it. I think it'd be a good one.
I'd love to see you in therapture and rape. You're and look
to the Corps for sure, becauseI watched that match and thought it was
damn good. You know there's anotherthere's another take team while you're at it.
(20:37):
Nothing really, just a divisions asa whole. The Alabama Wrestling Alliance
as all. As I know,you're busy with the Alabama title doing great
things, legendary things. But thosetake team titles I have an eye on
too. Wait a minute, now, the Assassins have the titles right now.
(20:59):
Well, very true, and theAssassin I have loved their respect for.
But at the end of the day, titles are titles titles. Well,
here we go. I mean,we're getting down to the nitty gritty.
Okay, all right, we're gonnastart wrapping up here in just a
few minutes. But why I don'twant to go to you first? What
(21:19):
are your what are you wanting toget the rest or get out of the
rest of twenty twenty one? Whatare your goals for the rest of the
year. Well, you know,we both do have singles goals of gold
rather and we have singles opportunities,But definitely on top of that, as
far as the tag teams concerned,I want to pick up some more gold
(21:44):
before this year is out. Imean, do you talk about the day
Break? I say, are theSWA Tag Teams champions? There was good?
That piece of gold looks nice.The Rapture have the Revolt Tech title.
I believe they have the Combat SportsPro tag titles too, if I
call and those those pieces that goto look nice too. I don't want
more gold. You see the championships, the Straps brother as they like to
(22:10):
call them. There's the proof inthe pudding of the type of tag team
you are and can be. SoI want more gold, more tag team
gold. Well that's good. Andbefore I get to you, Charles,
I just want to say one morething. Bla me Yeah, getting all
the gold and everything like that onegold, you won't be getting that DCWHA
team get back Hello Rumble has proventhat any rule can be broken. So
(22:38):
you might not like you may betasting those words a little different, Nigama
Lane. Let me just say this, Let me just say this. I
may find my way to make surethat that Hello Rumbo goes the way I
want it to go, as yousay. So, okay, all right,
(22:59):
Charles stopped laughing. Uh, whatis your end goals for twenty I'm
not a damn worm. Okay,now I've kept this damn professional. I'm
not a worm, but I knowthat Walter the Worm is looking for some
tag team to management. I mean, he'd ride in with y'all. He
said his cigars are better than yours. I just warned you to know that
(23:22):
I got rid of my sig.I got rid of my damn cigars because
he put that out. He gotrid of hit cigars because his were better
and you couldn't keep up. Yeah. Well I got rid of my cigars
period. Plus smoke is bad foryou. But after seeing a cigar in
a trailer park, I just couldn'tdo it no more. I mean that
it's not refined no more so,Charles, what's your end goals for twenty
twenty one? As far as mytag team and partner and I he said
(23:48):
his best more tag team gold.I'd love for us to debut in some
states that we haven't and definitely goback to some companies that we have only
been once or twice. Jeff finallydefinitely want that um My singles goal is
uh. I also need to makesure that John Taylor does extinct. You're
a little t rex bud whoa whoa, they need some main Yeah, it
(24:15):
needs some maritalin. You do somethingabout that. Brandon, you got all
this money that you're talking about.You can't control your puppets. Oh my
goodness, man, I mean andBrandon Beverly next time make daddy does wants
to run out the cutters and toneon something. Well, look, way,
manager, we were shocked the othernight. We were shot too when
(24:38):
it came out. Yeah, wewere just shocked that beating in the mess
I took was seeing that. Well, you know, my problem here is
is that G Miller DCW management.Now, then them idiots want to sit
there and say that you got anothershot if you can win the hell rung,
(24:59):
But you don't deserve that. Itwas in the contract that you only
get one shot. You missed thatshot. The Hello rumbles open for anyone
like you never learned your way intosomething, Brandon, Yeah, exactly,
you were. Okay, okay,I'm gonna just say this. You know
this is getting a little out ofhand right now. So what I'm gonna
(25:19):
do is I'm gonna say that youknow this is worth the end. You
can plug whatever, you don't carewhat it is. If you've got cookies,
to say you sell them the Floy'shears. Well, you know we
have our Facebook page at the Pride. Be sure to look at them.
You see all that gold is rapedin that tip. Sure that's ours,
that's our page. Be sure tocheck out our individual pages, the Alpha
(25:41):
Lion Chartle's wist. Let the merecoof kneeds more cooft and just stay just
stay shut up worm, Just staytuned for more, because I believe that
the end of this year, intwenty twenty two and beyond is is looking
mighty fine for the Pride as awhole. Indeed, indeed, definitely agree
(26:07):
that by our merchant too out there, the mech, by the merch,
We've got a store online. Youcan do some serious Pride shit. And
man, I say, well,I'm on here publicly. One of the
few times I get to do this. I want to congratulate my tag team
partner in February. He's going tohave a beautiful baby boy with his wife
(26:27):
and expanding the family, adding moreto the Pride. I'm very happy for
my tag team partner. Yes,indeed, yes, indeed, thank you,
sir. I appreciate that absolutely,and I'll give you congratulations. Just
to try to be nice, youknow, Thank you, sir. Maybe
one one day my son will takeyour daughter to problem and leave her there.
(26:48):
I would dare I wouldn't let mydaughter nowhere near you. I wouldn't
let my doll. Kids can't procreate. Let's just say you let mac daddy
near us all the time, soyou let your dogs arrow? Oh?
Okay, okay, y'all, y'all? Are you see? I tried to
be professional and try to be niceabout you, and you know what else?
(27:10):
Call off? This is something elseI want to talk about, you
know, the other night, whatdo you do? I do want to
say that I overlooked that I tookanother look at that contract, oh that
you sent me a few months agofor brilliant teams mhm h. And then
I flushed it down until I hada question for you, real question,
all right. I always wanted toask if the interviewer a question? Ready,
(27:34):
Yeah, I'm ready? How didthe sickle feel? Saturday? Y'all?
Is so funny? You know whatwas so funny about Saturday night?
You know when you did hit mewith that sickle. And I will say
this, I couldn't move Sunday,but I was happy. I was smiling
because we still had the championship.What I want to move, what I
(28:00):
want to know is is, uh, what I want to know is is
how in the world did you comeout Sarady and people actually cheered you you're
a cheater and and they cheered youand then they called me a cheater.
That's amazing answers. It's amazing thatsometimes sometimes all it takes is a little
(28:21):
worm like Brendan Turner to yep,yep, yep, like a little chihuahua
to make people love someone like me. You're so funny. All right,
Well, you know what I'm gonnasay is I really appreciate the pride coming
on. Uh, maybe we cando it again. Yeah it is.
Don't let it bounce like it didlast time. Uh huh, my chicks
(28:41):
don't bounce. But thank y'all,thank y'all warming around. This is Audio
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