July 25, 2024 • 52 mins
Nuestra segunda PUESTA EN ESCENA desde el atrio central de Acropolis Business Center fue espectacular. En este episodio en vivo, conversamos con el psicólogo clínico Blas Valenzuela y con ustedes sobre "Cómo el cine nos da lecciones de vida".
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Hey. I' m Denis Gomezand I' m Loren Fernández, and
this is the film mouth. Anoriginal podcast by Fernández y Gómez, communications
recorded in the studies of the AmericanDominican. In each episode, the magic
of cinema comes to life through ourconversations. You can listen to all our
episodes in Spotify and Apple Podcast.Good night and welcome to a new episode
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of film mouth this time live withall of you. My name is Lauran
Fernández, I am Denis Gomez andwe are the producers of the film mouth.
In this staging we will be talkingabout how cinema gives us life lessons
and we are very excited and veryhappy to have all of you here to
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have this conversation so special and soimportant with clinical psychologist Blas Valenzuela. Thank
you very much, thank you listen, yes, thank you also for the
invitation. I believe that if thereis one thing that unites us all,
regardless of the age we are,it is artistic expressions, and one of
them is holm oak. So Ithink that excellent initiative and good let'
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s thank you. Before we start, we want to thank all of you
who accompany us here live, alsothe people who a few weeks are going
to listen to us through our digitalplatforms in Spotify and Apple Podcast, but
above all, thank each of thepeople who humanize this initiative and have supported
us in the first place, Acropolisfor giving us this space to have this
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live conversation with each of you.We also want to thank Caribbean of the
oft Distribushan at 35 millimeters fiems Hrdor mine, to Irianna Jiménez, who
is our photographer, also to aleImages design and animation, who is the
person who designed the all Bucks thatare for sale and can see in our,
on our Instagram page and to Cineblancica, to whom we have been
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supported since the beginning of this initiative. We also want to take advantage of
this space to present our project,because we know that there are many people
who are in the square that donot know us the film mouth starts as
the podcast, which basically seeks torecord and document super special and especially educational
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conversations about cinema, seeing cinema notonly as an entertainment, but also as
a space of expression, learning,communication, but in addition to encountering events
like these that allow us to connectwith people who have similar hobbies, then
with the film mouth also in ourplan and what we do is to have
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this kind of cultural initiatives, especiallyto generate the dialogue that is very necessary
in the only rather young film systemin the Dominican Republic, but that there
is a lot of talent, thatis about talent for support to our own
industry, but also to all internationalcinema, I mean that with the film
mouth, maybe now we are onlyknown as a podcast but very soon and
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we hope to media the long termthat it is not only here, but
that it is outside. Speaking ofour own cinema and Kin, thank you,
thank you and well, Denis andBlas to see a little bit of
the ice with our audience. Wehave prepared some surprises for you, and
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that is why we invite you todress under your seats to see if you
have been graced by those little giftsthat we left. Well, everyone who
has the one who found a giftor very well, everyone who found a
paper has there the gift they earn. Thank you for attending and also for
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the sponsors who are part of thisevent. At the end of the episode
they can approach us and we givehim his gift. Of course it is
and nothing. To continue this episode, we obviously have to introduce our guest
so that you know him a littlebit more. This is Blas Valenzuela.
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He is an infant psychologist, youthfuland expert in affirmative psychology. He has
a training course at the Instituto Tecnológicode Santo Domingo INTEC, the Miguel Hernández
University of Spain and the Affirmative Coach. Let' s hear it for our
guest again. Thank you. Wewant to start because I think maybe a
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lot of people can get attention likea movie podcast. He has as guest
psychologist and has a subject that basicallymental health. When we were invited to
do this live episode Anacropolis, Lorenand I started for weeks. What topic
to talk about, because, aboveall, we believe to make an issue
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that is important to everyone, thatis a mutual ground for everyone. And
that' s what mental health isfor. I mean, I think that
' s something that no one escapesin part from one' s health,
integrity and well- being. So, as cinéfilas, we said when one
was a movie, you' reliterally exposing yourself to living and connecting with
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your emotions. If you go tothe cinema of the whole Community, that
is, everyone who is in theroom, and also of the emotions of
who you tak is telling you thestory, then we understood that it was
a super important topic, of course, and I believe that cinema is about
that, being able to connect withthose stories, feeling listened to, being
represented through different people. It isthat, at the end of the account,
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although they are fictitious, they havepart of each of us. And
I think that cinema and art ingeneral is about that, about connecting with
our emotions, so, for us, maybe understanding our lifestyle at the age
we find ourselves, for us,we think that this topic would be very
important to address. I believe thatall of you too, when you go
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to the cinema, have felt identifiedwith one or another emotion then and that
film is also, as we say, one of the first self- love
actions, of going to the cinemaalone, of you connecting with yourself.
Yes, that' s how Ithink that also, as they say,
connecting with our emotions, cinema buildsbridges allows us not only perhaps to know
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parts of us and emotional reactions thatwe can have before characters, situations or
contexts, but also, through thatbridge, to connect with realities of other
cultures, of other types of peoplewho are perhaps different from us. And
that is perhaps the most beautiful thingabout cinema too, which brings stories that
allow us to connect with us and, with everything also that surrounds us clearly
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to me strikes me very much becauseI told Loren I didn' t know
without mentioning it. Recently, onMonday I arrived from Mexico from a film
festival that I went precisely with thisproject, with the film mouth, and
I participated in many conversations where therewas much dialogue about whether cinema is forgiveness
or going, of cinema or cinemain general, if it is a safe
space. And obviously for me,I think that every cinephile myself is like
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cinema is a safe space, becauseit' s a place where nobody is
going to look for me, whereseeing characters who are living another story,
I can identify myself with things ofmine, know things I want that I
don' t want and have likethat day of witter and I' m
going to care about their space foryou to cry alone and that no one
is seeing you so, so closeand that it helps you like the mere
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one. I think the other dayI went to see a Dominican documentary that
is called that' s why Icame to the kid and that same day
I had a situation and I wentto the movies and there I immersed myself
to be able to connect with thatstory that maybe it wasn' t so
different from what was happening to meand it was a chance like good let
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me cry here and here no oneis seeing me and nothing. Yeah,
yeah, I remember when I wasa kid, and I think everybody else
somehow lives similar stories that you mightplay after watching a movie, a series.
What a character I am and sometimesI' ve fought you over not
I' m that character. Ichose him first, I read first,
and perhaps now, as adults,we can also do the same exercise,
although they are childish. But notonly with the character that I identify with,
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but also with that character that generatesanger, that generates me to go
to that degree that I say wowis acting so well that it is generating
me as discomfort to see that characterpresent, because that character also brings us
a message perhaps about something that isalso part of us and maybe we are
not so conscious or of some characteristicthat perhaps it would not be so negative
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to start developing it learning to bein under moments it is necessary a little
selfish, to make a little morefirm, to be able to defend myself
in one way or another, ascan do what I did some good movie
villain, some character perhaps not themost pleasant that generates such comfortable emotions.
I mean. I think that,as a first question to continue with this
dialogue that we have, it ishow you think the cinema has done you
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have portrayed the whole issue of mentalhealth. From your experience watching movies and
with the additional knowledge you have asa mental health professional. Yeah, when
we talk about mental health, maybewe think right away about emotions and well,
right now it came out two orintensely two that who hasn' t
seen it. I think an excellentmovie so that everyone, no matter how
old they are, can have itand understand a little more how anxiety works,
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how the brain works, how emotionswork in us. But not only
think about when we talk about mentalhealth and cinema, think about movies that
have to do directly with emotions,but also about situations that people may live
with who look like me, forexample, people from vulnerable groups, two
motivated people, LGBT people, watchingmovies also with themes that may have some
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kind of representation cohabitation is that Itoo have been part of that process of
integrating aspects into me, into mymental health and becoming more aware of who
I am that I should work,what not, etc. Yes, and
as you say, those segmented orniche films respond to perhaps certain or different
parts of us that we fear thinkingthere is some idea in particular or that
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I fear going through some personal oremotional challenge. Then it is also something
that contributes a lot to the cinemaof having these different representations with different films
and different people. Yes, Ithink it has made quite some progress on
mental health in the sense of theway in which certain situations are represented,
certain diagnoses, for example, certainconflicts that can occur in life as a
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mourning, a divorce, a situationof some chronic illness. The representation that
may be seen today in the moviesand with the characters tends to be a
little more landed on how real youlive and not how to stigmatize how you
think it might be. Just orme, preparing for this episode, I
read a lot of articles where let' s say you questioned and art in
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general, but specifically the cinema,by the power it has and the weapon
that is like a means of communication, can both be a visibilizing agent of
situations. What these marginalized groups wouldbe like would be quite positive and negative
realities, but it can also bea stigmatizing agent. And I think that
if we have seen something with thedevelopment of the history of cinema and perhaps
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with a consciousness that I understand istied to the whole social aspect and reality,
other than that there is already muchmore talk about the issue of mental
health, if we could say no, that we can, because it has
always been possible, but that theydare to tell those kinds of stories.
Yes, I believe that the wordyportrayal of what is heard a lot today,
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every time we watch serious or moviesand perhaps generations that are a little
younger than we, the children andteenagers who are growing up, will be
lucky enough to grow up seeing certainpeople and groups in a much healthier and
more appropriate way. And maybe we, as we are, maybe a little
more contemporary. We have lived itor identified it more easily with what was
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going on with that Disney princess story, for example, which was always the
figure of the female woman waiting forthe right man to save me from conflict.
These are things that our parents mightnot have thought, they would not
have said how to operate, somethingso rare in this set of history where
the same pattern is repeated and wesee that women always present themselves in this
way, what for us represents thatfigure of women today in society, perhaps
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for the young of the new generationsit will not only be to what they
are acquiring but also to other representations, such as that of people, GBT,
racialized, etcetera. And you,speaking of that, come to mind
of a film that recently premiered,that George Islantimo' s Sportings, where
we see this modern woman, butset in perhaps another time, in something
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dystopian, but that resembles so muchthe reality that we women are living today,
of breaking with all those cultural,economic, social barriers that have been
imposed upon us, obviously over theyears, and I think we are all
Ballabaxster right now that the main characterof this film. So, going around
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there, comes the second question thathow cinema can influence our perspective on social
and cultural issues totally, totally ifa character with certain characteristics in common,
I usually see it as the villain, as the bad one, as the
one who generates conflicts, the onewho always dies my brain. It will
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automatically associate that all the people inmy environment that have these features too are
going to have the same ending asthat character in that series or film,
so it is always very important whenit comes to producing perhaps some audiovisual material.
Be very aware of this, notonly of the bias I have,
but also of the brains that myactors can have, who works, the
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script that assists me in that andall this so that the representation is as
adequate as possible. Yeah, Imean, there' s just a lot
of debate going on that in theend people see the film as that final
product. But the film is aprocess and in this process there are a
lot of people who work, becauseobviously, the cinema, I think the
nicest thing within everything, the nicestthing that has a very collaborative job,
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where a lot of creative people fromdifferent areas come together to crown just product
is debated a lot, I mean, we can even get into this mental
health issue of everyone who works inthe industry, of everyone who is part
of this process to get to thatfinal product. The truth is that when
you are a creative person, forme it was a person who is constantly
in dialogue with your emotions, andI believe that all that you comment comes
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precisely, that is, from theprocess of how to make the film.
I am not really going to giveup that area of debate, to say
because it is a subject that ismuch talked about there. If it comes
to saying the tra let' ssay that if the film as a product
is something you should educate, ifit' s the work of a director,
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it' s really a whole subjectbecause at the end of art and
people see it very much as anexpression. But I do agree that everyone
who has the opportunity to communicate andin their hands has the information as power,
has a responsibility, whether you useit to see or for bad,
because there are people in history whohave done very good things and people who
have done very bad things, andeveryone who had in common power happens the
same with cinema. So I wisheveryone had that conscience, I think,
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but in the end the world isworld. That' s why I think,
yes, I think it' schanging, it' s changing,
it' s getting much better,and society' s also becoming much more
aware of these details that maybe wedidn' t realize about media representation before.
No, and it' s alsobeen through history. What films were
not subject to any kind of socialdebate or the topics they dealt with over
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the years, if they entered theconversation. And I think that' s
part of the same system and ofhow societies are also evolving. And that
' s very important, especially becausein the end I think that I feel
that the main debate is that noteveryone, maybe cinema. How are you
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going to have these deep conversations?How that generates an internal dialogue. How
I can analyze my emotions. Alot of people go to the movies and
that' s fine, just asa way out, and that' s
where our next question goes. Atthe psychological level. That' s two
composite questions. Cinema is used asa form of therapy, working within processes.
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And the second way one, asa spectator, can, apart from
having a pleasant experience, was toapply or view it as a tool for
our own life. Yes, asto whether it can be a resource for
therapy. Definitely and maybe beyond youhave to go to the movies, because
that' s part of a therapythat could be true, but regardless of
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how you can work with seeing sometimesfor example, maybe we don' t
quite understand some situation that' shappening to us. And all our friends
tell us, our family also tellus, but until we see it reflected
in something beyond us, we don' t realize it. Like pussy it
really looks like me or look bringingin the same way I' m going
and look how it ended, orMira isn' t over. I'
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ll get to that point too.So yes, it' s true that
the cinema in the series brings thatmaterial that we can work on therapy,
that narrative, how does that narrativelook reflected in you With what does it
comment at the beginning, with whatcharacter do you identify yourself with, with
what not and why don' tyou identify yourself? With that staff you
have, that character that generates somuch displeasure, so much anger in you,
I mean, yes, I thinkit' s a very useful tool
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to use in therapy, in movies, in music, images, etcetera.
And in the second question was,when I go to the movies, if
there are any tools or things Ican retain and apply in my life.
I mean, well, they gohand in hand. With the first yes
and yes, I mean, ifa movie catches my eye so much the
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most common thing, I' llprobably call a friend to me, my
partner or some relative, and youdon' t know what I saw look.
You have to watch movies. It' s all or twenty characters.
I found it so interesting for sucha reason. So that dialogue that will
generate also with others, with othersalso will always be in some way another
pleasant pleasant and that does good tomental health. And, for example,
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you think there are movies that givebetter sections of life than others, because
we always have that perception that comedies, for example, don' t have
that much to offer us at thenarrative level. Well, I think comedies
are the movie that one can bemost relaxed and, at the same time,
learn something. Not unlike the dramas, which are sometimes or a little
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loaded. They leave you with thatenergy. I also don' t know
what you pity. I think,regardless of the movie, everyone connects more
with a kind of movie, akind of movie stories. Perhaps, for
example, I commented a little whileago that was intensely wonderful, but another
person may have seen it as achildren' s movie, as I didn
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' t leave anything that I didn' t know or made me connect with
anything from w To me, personallyI really like all the movies that have
to do with how they are asreal as possible they are usually seen,
even with the unindependent, which arevery movies that you are watching and you
feel that you are watching a littlecamera that is recording maybe in what the
neighbor does or what some friend oryour own life does. And that'
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s a movie that personally makes memore connected to the cinema and to me.
But I wouldn' t dare saythat maybe comedy movies or that they
handle much more humor, don't teach cinema aces, because even humor
a form also as a defense mechanismthat we used before difficult situations. Oh,
yeah, look, they hit me. No, that' s not
funny. That hurt, didn't it, because you got hit by
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the arm, by the knee orcaused you sadness. So, even if
there' s humor, it stillleaves a message. Yeah, me too.
I don' t know either ifcomedy, I mean, if there
are genres that we can fit in. I think that by itself people would
say drama, because obviously they aremuch more history. I say dramatic faces
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are worth redundancy, but it doesn' t take off. And, in
my opinion, for example, comedyis a super complicated genre, because it
' s very easy. Tonces ayear weeps at you. I feel it
is an emotion that we have veryclose, that is not very familiar,
but happiness is such an ephemeral emotionthat many times we don' t even
realize that we are being happy thenin the comedy that generates you as that
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spark that maybe we don' tregister it. Moreover, a somewhat difficult
genre, that is, makes agood comedy and joke as super universal,
is perhaps difficult. I feel likethat one like maybe the main disconnect you
have. But, like you,I don' t think so. I
would never say that one genre wouldgive you more life lessons than another.
I think in the end that's very personal. I, when basing
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you on the list of which moviesto recommend, realized that they were all
sad and depressed. Not that Iconsider myself to be such a person,
but that, obviously, perhaps thatis the emotion that is closest and that
moves me the most when I think, for example, in movies is to
be recommended. The first one thatalways comes to me is Jim Hardwush'
s Spattersol, in a movie thatI always make. This anecdote I saw
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lasted three days re- analyzing myentire life. Anyone the wate says is
a simple movie of a person whoeither a chauffeur or a chic city in
America, that you' re thathappy wife and I write poetry. But
within that simplicity and routine that hasits life, I was like a call
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to the ground for myself that Ifeel life is going so fast. With
social networks we have too much stimulationand over saturation and we have to pursue
in success and we have to doso many things constantly that when I go
to film that is all the opposite, I can connect. It was as
a call to earth, for mea film that I personally love and that
I would also recommend to anyone whocan see. I don' t know
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if they' ve seen Clowns,one who was nominated last year for the
Oscar. I think that the categoryof international film in the Oscar is a
film that, at least within mycircles, few people know and maybe wouldn
' t want to give much information, because it' s important that they
see it. If he spoke perhapsthree sentences, I already say as very
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important elements, but he does reflectas precisely as two preteens who were very
close since childhood, How is friendshipbroken up by different situations that occur in
the new school, where they enteron how the family handles them and also
on how each of them handles aninitial conflict that they had at the beginning
of the year to decorate. Iwouldn' t want to give you more
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details, but I would recommend thatanyone who can see you see her.
It' s a movie I've seen. I think, like,
three times already and every time Isee it, the tears come out in
automatics. I mean, that movieis strong. It comes to me a
lot too and I like it alot because those friendship narratives are something that
is very much in the cinema todayand how we can that are not necessarily
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those romantic connections that we are seeingin the cinema. And that' s
something very valuable that has evolved,because almost always all the movies I grew
up with were like all romantic,romantic, romantic, and a lot of
idealization. And one thing we areseeing now in the cinema is the value
of that love between friends and howthey can support you in difficult situations.
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And something that' s good rightnow. There' s one called Luca,
which is also from Disney, whichI really liked. There' s
another one called Robot Dreams, froma Spanish movie theater that was also nominated
and it' s something that's moving in the cinema, like breaking
those social barriers. Yeah, Ithink it' s another topic too,
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so we can mention that it's addressing. Yeah, well, I
think that' s always this wholetopic as an internal dialogue and you know
what you want to do in life, existentialist movies. That reminds me a
lot of the hand of God,or, of Henn of Gat, of
Paulorgentine. I feel like it's a movie that' s like a
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therapeutic exercise, in my opinion,that' s what I think of the
director and I also think that he' s the writer, because it has
a little bit to do with hislife and he' s this character a
super young boy who' s makingthe big decisions, because eighteen to thirty,
like life isn' t forced tomake certain important decisions that aren'
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t decisive, because the truth isn' t anymore, but with a reas.
It is a moment and as ayoung context that he is discovering,
that he wants to study at university, that I no longer mean, he
has his family very present, thatalways supports him and passes or devastating fact,
that I will not tell him,that puts in like a hack all
his perception of life, because heloses important people in his life. So
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he wants to be a filmmaker,so he gets into this whole debate of
it. I think everyone who workswith creative things or in general has felt
like he' s just good enough. If who' s interested in my
story, if I have something tocontribute, then like that movie, there
are others, because there' sa series that fille boole in the last
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month that I don' t knowif you saw her named Baby Renders.
Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Totally touches a million things,
but it has in common that that' s why I bring it up
with God' s hand, thathe is a person who has a supermarket
dream and that he does almost theimpossible and the possible, even putting on
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delicate situations, to achieve that dream. Yeah, and good of you to
comment on Baby Rander. I thinkeveryone should see her, too. Something
that happens a lot, for example, speaking perhaps more as a psychologist,
more than from the world of cinema, which happens a lot is, for
example, that it becomes very difficultfor us, perhaps sometimes it is to
understand when someone is going through asituation that is so difficult to deal with,
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that he does not even know howto get out of that situation.
And I think Baby Rinder perfectly representswhat a person who is going through multiple
traumatic situations lives through. I thinkit' s also made that, at
least it happened to me that inthe third episode it generated me as a
reaction as but why it doesn't do anything, why it doesn'
t change. I, being apsychologist, even when he arrives I think
that the fifth episode I don't know if the fourth quito where he
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begins to reflect what happened before,is perfectly understood by what he behaves,
how he behaves and because he endsup falling into the same situation one by
one again and again. So Ithink a good series also to understand situations
that not only I live, butI can find myself living my co-
worker, some family member or mybrother, etcetera. There are a lot
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of people who commented from that showthat there was a time when she had
to stop watching. That is somethingthat today' s content is also being
very careful even put a disclaiment atthe beginning, at the end of the
episode or film. When you thinkI kind of pink movies a little bit,
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when you have to say like you' re okay with this, I
have to stop seeing it. Thisis affecting me in a certain way.
Perhaps, for example, many peoplefind it very uncomfortable to see scenes where
there is a lot of blood orparts of the body that may be mutilated.
That' s really images that area little bit strong. But,
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in my opinion, I do notreally know how ethics in the world of
cinema should represent it. But,from my point of view, if what
it reflects is an event that reallyhappened like this in real life, a
historical event, perhaps not all thebad things that are reflected that way in
the cinema, because that' swhat happened. If we don' t
see what happened, let me notunderstand the severity of the matter. Now
yes, it' s just likepure morbidness, because I don' t
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know, maybe I would, butthe truth is that I don' t
handle film ethics so much about what' s appropriate or not about representation on
a screen. Yeah, there Imean. I think it depends a lot,
perhaps on the producer, on whereit is going to be distributed,
because in the end everything is donein the cinema, that is, all
kinds of content, but especially ifyou try to make it a content that
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reaches large masses. Yeah, Iget it, I mean, usually the
big studios and the big distributors,if they have a little bit of rules,
because in the end nobody' sgonna let you have sextive content.
That reminds me of the snow societythat you just mentioned that it' s
a story based on real facts whereit was almost impossible for you not to
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touch certain issues that are very sensitiveand I don' t know the truth,
I mean, I' m notUruguayan, I don' t know
how they feel for them to seethat, but I think that' s
historic so I saw many comments that, contrary to the previous one that is
made alive, this one does showor respects more the part of psychology than
I lived, that is, thosepeople lived and that' s very positive.
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So we' re already getting thatkind of story and I mention it
because if it' s an extremelygraphic movie, that is, I saw
it without knowing anything. I rememberthat I was even having dinner, I
had to stop healing because I couldn' t and that' s why I
say that the cinema is so bigimpact so much because as an audiovisual product,
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it can move me so much,that is, how it can cause
me so much to live parallel thenof the snow. I think a very
good example of films that touch onthese themes, which are sensitive, but
as not now not in the morbidthat I think a subject that happens maybe
a lot with them, the firstbehavioral disorders with mental illness that I don
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' t know there if you haveany opinion of your experience about that work,
perhaps the cinema has made demonstrate thosediseases, those disorders. Yes,
I think that, as we talkedabout at the beginning, there is a
better representation every time about how aperson suffers from some difficult situation in his
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life, whether from some mental healthdiagnosis or some grieving or divorce, conflict
and infidelity, etcetera. So,I certainly think we' re improving the
way they represent. Probably there isstill some producer or some director who could
still do a little better, butin general, if it is represented in
a better way and a way perhapscloser to reality, the experiences that each
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of us can have as human beings, already to go six rando, unfortunately,
hurt our episodes usually last thirty toforty- five. We' re
going that way. He can alreadytake away the shadow of a psychologist from
you. You have some series ofmovies that you consider have given you life
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lessons and that you have already toldyourself several, but others that you would
like to recommend to our listeners.Besides Clowns that Clouse, I have a
real look at her. Ever sinceI saw her, I' ve been
kind of hooked. I' lltake the clouse. I mean, if
there' s a movie I wantto mention again or even if you tell
me, mention another Close. Everybody' s going to Close, I mean,
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I think it was last year.I don' t remember very well,
but a movie that everyone should see. Belgian film, I even think
the director' s name is LucasDon Hunts himself, that is, what
class and have good. I wouldstay with I think I think that you
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lived it today is also called theinfinite memory of Maite Albert, an extremely
delicate, precious film. It dealswith the issue of Alzheimer' s,
which is also the subject we haveseen in several films and which is being
addressed. It is about a Chileancouple, both within the area of art
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communication, and there came a timewhen he begins to suffer from that disease.
And it is how his wife constantlyaccompanies him in that process, that
he is living, an extremely intelligentperson who has read many pounds. He
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keeps saying the movie, talking abouthis books, where his books are.
And I think infinite memory is amovie worth seeing. That reminds me also
of the same director to the molepeople, which is another documentary. I
think she, in particular, thatdirector, is very good at documentaries,
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because I feel that she doesn't have a lot of interference with what
' s going on, that is, she' s literally what you said
after she misses a little camera andpeople make their lives. I feel that
their films look like this and feellike that, so the mole people,
for example, one or another documentary, but that it carries the focus perhaps
something that in all the general countriespeople are unaware and are the elderly people
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and that there is what has beenleft out very much, that is,
this representation in the cinema of olderpeople and the importance and above all the
importance of the care that they shouldhave exactly then that is one that I
too, that is, we wouldrecommend as part of the dialogue of elections,
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especially for one to ask oneself inour nality what one does for those
issues. And you really are awareof why that more or less of a
top or, it' s aspy who enters a senior home that is,
and see if they give him gooddeals, that is, if there
' s care, it' sgood or there' s abuse for grandmas.
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So to me, when I saidI mean, what it' s
gonna be like here, which meansI could be, then I feel like
that, like they have the artsand the movies to catalyze and move.
That documentary also does very well.Another that I would like to mention is
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that perhaps there are people I meantto say is the nunt Lalannent. I
imagine that many people know it isa musical, that is, there is
a fiction, but it is afilm that I feel can move people who
have dreams a lot, who sometimesthink they are very big. And in
the end, I think literally,I mean, the sky is the limit.
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So it' s a movie thatnavigates your bike very well that part.
All that and I want to mentionit, because I know that many
times, like very traditional cinephiles,they don' t like that movie,
but I think one that for peoplewho think these issues are important, can
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serve as motivation. No, andI' m staying with me, I
' m staying and I share mylittle phrase that in movies they cause small
revolutions within us to motivate us tomake decisions in our daily lives and also
to discover things that we sometimes don' t know how to name and that
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we see a movie or a seriesand that' s what we' re
good for. I mean, Ithink the cinema allows a lot of that
we' re going to everything we' ve mentioned, we' re going
to publish it because we' vemade mention of a lot of movies and
a lot of series and others thatI think we can' t stay all
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night talking about movies that come intolife choices, because in the end I
feel like I' m giving youa life lesson. We' re going
to publish it on our page.And now, because this is an open
conversation, we want to open aspace for all people who want to comment
on the subject that they want torecommend some movie or some series they have.
They want to ask you something,what do you talk about the subject
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in the act that the dissenting opensorsall allowed from respect. So if anyone
has any, any comments and cheersup, we pass on the microphone.
Good night and I often see mylove and reproved life. True, already
with this dice I have thought seriouslythat I should sue World Disney forquee World
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Disney fixed me with cinderella the beautifulwhite sleeper. Snow that the dying was
wonderful, that this prince arrived andwe will live happily ever after eating partridges
and that in real life. Sadly, I learned it wasn' t like
that. I tripped a lot andkissed a lot Sapple reference here Thank you.
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Okay. I liked it very muchthat they said the fact that each
person connects to different types of movies, because it happens many times that one
connects so much and sees something inmora in a movie and goes and recommends
it to everyone look at you youhave that and not everyone does not receive
it in the same way and Inotice offends I will go with my sister,
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you saw it and you saw itthen it is so personal and I
liked that they emphasized that, becausewhat you live is what you connect when
you see the movies and nothing.I really liked that comment. Thank you.
Someone else gets so shy about it, okay? I' m very
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series, especially anime. Anime alsogives you a lot of psychology. When
you see the development of the charactersand see them as a character, I
' m going to be loved atfirst, but you understand a focus of
the background that the character has andwhy. Of some reasons also that Biggi
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recently commented on comedy. I amso n very of comedies and Model Family
is an excellent sitcom that develops manycharacters. Already a little bit of a
short where a gay character is forcedto quit his job and he doesn'
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t know what it' s goingto be. He' s giving himself
a panic attack. It influences thepersonal lives of the others and it helped
me to see the character get overa panic attack and how to get bogged
down in order to face a situationthat was making him tickle at work.
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So, thank you for the contributionsyou made today and that left me thinking
about Boire Family. You were makingsomeone else now It' s good I
have scenes. You' re veryinto Family, because I loved that series,
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because it taught me a lot aboutfamily relationships and friendships and with your
partner before like there' s alot of anxiety about confrontation, in conflicts
and every time I had a problem, I was like oh and they'
re not going to let go,that is, they' re not going
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to let talk for ever they didn' t come back and like I wasn
' t going to go to thatlove that I ended up sounding, regardless
of the problem they had that one. Those are things I really liked.
So, another thing I wanted tocomment on is the ethics in the ctim
and how you take care to seecontent that might affect you in some way.
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So, for example, it happenedto me that there was a stage
that I wanted to see subsection andI couldn' t dance because emotionally we
drained too much and I just didn' t visit tark Son leoy I was
and that wow is a very goodseries, but everything that was going on
was so stressful and a constantly overwhelmingthat I just stopped and didn' t
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see it. I mean, they' re things I couldn' t do
to help myself in that sense.Yeah, thanks for what I said you
mentioned, like there are times thatyou see a movie that you say,
there isn' t. I'm not ready. Psychologically to finish it
happened to me with collateral Beury,that of Will Smith, that the skin
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of her child and when already she, as I said and I said,
do not wait, I touch forthis the wall and then, like two
years later I returned it and whenlife said yes, at that time I
was not prepared to see her.So I feel like we have to know
when to pause that ok everything canreally impact a lot emotionally and when if
I' ve prepared you, I' ve come back I don' t
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care if it lasts two or threeyears to see her. Thank you,
thank you very much. I totallyagree with you. I wanted to emphasize
on the part that movies, thatis, that there are movies that really
make you change your way of seeingsomething. That year a movie came out.
I don' t know if they' ve got a show called Chake
Shack that they' re like twoyoung people and I' m in school
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and basically the movie is like anovage eater and it' s like the
friendship of it and how their massgoes away or is distorting by all the
changes that happen. When you givelike in that moment, like fourteen fifteen
and sixteen, that is, youstart going through so much, then I
think that the film is not sopretty, that is, as all that
changes, I also wanted to emphasizethe lan, that is, I love
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the winged truth and the first timewhen I heard it I found it very
funny, because when I went toTwitter to investigate and see what other people
were talking about, I saw asmany sineps and they said it like not
this film snated, that is likeit' s silly me and I kind
of beg to see it from thismovie. I lasted three days processing it
because I liked it too much.So, it' s really done at
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jessmon Lee' s end. Thankyou someone else and have other good comments.
I wanted to talk about a seriesI saw called plat bill. I
don' t know if they've seen him, that he' s
from a gun dealer who' sin jail, but to get him out,
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he had to infiltrate the prison todiscover or unmask a series of girls.
And those episodes to me we hadme when I discovered that he had
on map where he had the fourteengirls and integrated. After that, I
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didn' t, Joson Jordan saidthe pandemic look at her there. They
' re there, look at herthere. And when he sent, he
sent him to the brother' shouse, sent the map and I wished
for such a map and he veryintense. I think it' s six
chapters? Eight the eight chapters?I had all the time stuck there because
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it had me a little bit,it had me stressed out, react mate,
but I needed to see the endand really well recommended them Hi,
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I wanted to mention, I wantedto talk about family movies as well.
In my house there' s adynamic of that little one. Well,
we sit on movies all together andthey' re all shooting movies. I
mean, if you don' tsee a movie in my house that every
second is killing someone or pulling you, it' s not working, but
it' s such a stressful timein family and it feels so beautiful.
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I mean, I can see there' s been a fight that' s
the awkward family time of the week, and if we got into a Jacki
Chang movie, then that went awaylike the movies also bring people together.
It' s not just like amoment for you just sit down and reflect,
but it also helps you, ithelps connect, for example, here
we are. I' ve forgottenthe world out here, man, because
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we' re talking about something Ithink we all like. Good night,
I wanted to ask, I lovedher participation because I kind of went back,
reflects that same thing in family.Of course not a lot of shooting,
because I don' t know howthey can be destressed, but for
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that exercise and truth. But Idid want to ask the real psychologist that
space has charmed me and the diversityof opinions and I wanted to ask him
how one after watching a film thatreally impacts you, either because it is
very much with a hackol or,for example, films that deal with accidents,
for example aerial. Let' sgo to that one that there was
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a little bit more updated one wheneverI' ve given, at least in
my case, how to put andgoogle and re believe there if you had
to fly a week and yourself,that is, how you can deal with
that and what recommendation you can givefor this topic. Yeah, that'
s great. I don' tknow if they saw taking advantage of the
question recently in the Civil War movie. If some people do, yes,
yes, yes. For me thatmovie generated that feeling of me coming out
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of the cinema and it was Ineed to breathe, I need to sit
something down, I need to dobecause I feel too upset and for me
that was that they made the moviesuper good. If you get that feeling,
it means something you did pretty well. And then answering the question of
how we manage our emotions, howwe relax a little bit good if a
movie generates stress or discomfort, likeany other situation, if I had an
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argument at home and I still feelvery angry with anger, very anxious,
stressed, and what helps me tocalm the ban in my face with cold
water, I took a glass ofwater. Talking to someone, we had
a couple of little minutes sitting down. All those self- care strategies that
we may have in place for othertimes can also help us relax. After
watching a film that generates a lotof discomfort, no, and adding a
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little bit to that airplane trauma.I was in January Uruguay, I went
to a film festival in Juan Ignacioand six weeks earlier I had just seen
the society of the Snow and Ijust flew over one of those mountain ranges
of that band and the plane washorrible at one in the morning and it
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was like ok not good in otherwords. I think it' s natural
that one like the plane thing isa problem, that I think that was
the cobo, so we' renot going to get into that so many
people in the part that Paloma saidthat my mom got the attention that out
of shooting what one is her family, I would ask you. I think
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the same thing happens when you doboxing to de- stress you would go
without it to one or more veryaction films. No yes, there are
people who do cause them a lotof discomfort, but there are others who
relax them. And one of thegreat questions, for example, that I
work with maybe more children and teenagersis conchole. But this kid just watch
action movies and only play violence videogames, you' re going back to
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a crime scene. No, notnecessarily. I was also one who grew
up perhaps playing video games where everythinggoes, killing and completing missions. And
that doesn' t really make aperson more violent. If you can perhaps
encourage the symbolic game, that thechild does at that stage by being very
in touch with gun game and thatis to play also the pistols with his
friends or something very similar, butthat does not make a person himself become
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more violent. Of course and inthat same sense, also that of watching
zines or cinema or TV series,how to escape, how to evade.
I don' t know what thoughtI' ve had since your experience.
Obviously, that is, if,for example, we have a difficult situation
and we have several days dealing withit and what relaxes us is watching that
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only episode of the series each whenit came to my home after work.
That' s not necessarily a badthing. As long as we are aware
that we cannot avoid all our livesthe conflict that is not generating discomfort,
that is, at some point,we have to confront it, we have
to understand it, integrate it,work it, but to connect for an
hour to watch a series to relaxand can sleep if it is not something
that necessarily you. Yeah, becausea lot of people you know, it
feels like that culsibility. I havethis problem with you, I have this
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job that I have to solve immediately. But I' m going to sit
down a series, a movie andsomething like night is for sleeping, to
solve problems. Listen to it there, well, we' re already on
it. Feel our episode really thatI think it went a lot better for
you than I imagined. We devoteourselves to preparing ourselves for this and,
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above all, thank you very muchto Blas for joining us. It was
very important to have a person,that is, a psychologist, who would
allow us to make that connection betweencinema, because we read it. We
also need like that education and itdoes that yes n because maybe I feel
that in the routine once it isdisconnected. But it is essential to see
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that and, especially in our space, to give a very important focus to
the issue of mental health, whichis a crucial part of life. So
for that, thank you very muchcan accept our invitation. Thank you very
much, isn' t it?We would also, of course, like
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to thank Acropolis Business Mal for lettingus develop our project here in plenary at
Central and for each of you whoagreed to our invitation and have been a
part of it. Especially because Ifeel like it brings so much value to
these live conversations, because maybe youknow how to talk to each other,
you know, and of course,me, that' s what I'
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m going to say. I didn' t know you, but I thought
more, but you have like theconversation with you to say that they provide
and add value always very important.And it' s like other people have
said, oh side, it unitesus and connects us and we can put
into practice like that empathy and thatrespect for the opinions of others and I
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think that' s something very worthfol Also yes, that is, to
generate community. I think that's something that cinema does and that we
want to keep promoting with the filmmouth. We also want to thank all
the sponsors to Acropolis Pis grind ahvanfielm distribution that gave us all the gifts,
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Hey. I' m Denis Gomezand I' m Loren Fernández, and
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In this staging we will be talkingabout how cinema gives us life lessons
and we are very excited and veryhappy to have all of you here to
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you very much, thank you listen, yes, thank you also for the
invitation. I believe that if thereis one thing that unites us all,
regardless of the age we are,it is artistic expressions, and one of
them is holm oak. So Ithink that excellent initiative and good let'
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who accompany us here live, alsothe people who a few weeks are going
to listen to us through our digitalplatforms in Spotify and Apple Podcast, but
above all, thank each of thepeople who humanize this initiative and have supported
us in the first place, Acropolisfor giving us this space to have this
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who are in the square that donot know us the film mouth starts as
the podcast, which basically seeks torecord and document super special and especially educational
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conversations about cinema, seeing cinema notonly as an entertainment, but also as
a space of expression, learning,communication, but in addition to encountering events
like these that allow us to connectwith people who have similar hobbies, then
with the film mouth also in ourplan and what we do is to have
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this kind of cultural initiatives, especiallyto generate the dialogue that is very necessary
in the only rather young film systemin the Dominican Republic, but that there
is a lot of talent, thatis about talent for support to our own
industry, but also to all internationalcinema, I mean that with the film
mouth, maybe now we are onlyknown as a podcast but very soon and
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we hope to media the long termthat it is not only here, but
that it is outside. Speaking ofour own cinema and Kin, thank you,
thank you and well, Denis andBlas to see a little bit of
the ice with our audience. Wehave prepared some surprises for you, and
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the sponsors who are part of thisevent. At the end of the episode
they can approach us and we givehim his gift. Of course it is
and nothing. To continue this episode, we obviously have to introduce our guest
so that you know him a littlebit more. This is Blas Valenzuela.
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He is an infant psychologist, youthfuland expert in affirmative psychology. He has
a training course at the Instituto Tecnológicode Santo Domingo INTEC, the Miguel Hernández
University of Spain and the Affirmative Coach. Let' s hear it for our
guest again. Thank you. Wewant to start because I think maybe a
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lot of people can get attention likea movie podcast. He has as guest
psychologist and has a subject that basicallymental health. When we were invited to
do this live episode Anacropolis, Lorenand I started for weeks. What topic
to talk about, because, aboveall, we believe to make an issue
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that is important to everyone, thatis a mutual ground for everyone. And
that' s what mental health isfor. I mean, I think that
' s something that no one escapesin part from one' s health,
integrity and well- being. So, as cinéfilas, we said when one
was a movie, you' reliterally exposing yourself to living and connecting with
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your emotions. If you go tothe cinema of the whole Community, that
is, everyone who is in theroom, and also of the emotions of
who you tak is telling you thestory, then we understood that it was
a super important topic, of course, and I believe that cinema is about
that, being able to connect withthose stories, feeling listened to, being
represented through different people. It isthat, at the end of the account,
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although they are fictitious, they havepart of each of us. And
I think that cinema and art ingeneral is about that, about connecting with
our emotions, so, for us, maybe understanding our lifestyle at the age
we find ourselves, for us,we think that this topic would be very
important to address. I believe thatall of you too, when you go
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to the cinema, have felt identifiedwith one or another emotion then and that
film is also, as we say, one of the first self- love
actions, of going to the cinemaalone, of you connecting with yourself.
Yes, that' s how Ithink that also, as they say,
connecting with our emotions, cinema buildsbridges allows us not only perhaps to know
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parts of us and emotional reactions thatwe can have before characters, situations or
contexts, but also, through thatbridge, to connect with realities of other
cultures, of other types of peoplewho are perhaps different from us. And
that is perhaps the most beautiful thingabout cinema too, which brings stories that
allow us to connect with us and, with everything also that surrounds us clearly
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to me strikes me very much becauseI told Loren I didn' t know
without mentioning it. Recently, onMonday I arrived from Mexico from a film
festival that I went precisely with thisproject, with the film mouth, and
I participated in many conversations where therewas much dialogue about whether cinema is forgiveness
or going, of cinema or cinemain general, if it is a safe
space. And obviously for me,I think that every cinephile myself is like
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cinema is a safe space, becauseit' s a place where nobody is
going to look for me, whereseeing characters who are living another story,
I can identify myself with things ofmine, know things I want that I
don' t want and have likethat day of witter and I' m
going to care about their space foryou to cry alone and that no one
is seeing you so, so closeand that it helps you like the mere
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one. I think the other dayI went to see a Dominican documentary that
is called that' s why Icame to the kid and that same day
I had a situation and I wentto the movies and there I immersed myself
to be able to connect with thatstory that maybe it wasn' t so
different from what was happening to meand it was a chance like good let
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me cry here and here no oneis seeing me and nothing. Yeah,
yeah, I remember when I wasa kid, and I think everybody else
somehow lives similar stories that you mightplay after watching a movie, a series.
What a character I am and sometimesI' ve fought you over not
I' m that character. Ichose him first, I read first,
and perhaps now, as adults,we can also do the same exercise,
although they are childish. But notonly with the character that I identify with,
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but also with that character that generatesanger, that generates me to go
to that degree that I say wowis acting so well that it is generating
me as discomfort to see that characterpresent, because that character also brings us
a message perhaps about something that isalso part of us and maybe we are
not so conscious or of some characteristicthat perhaps it would not be so negative
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to start developing it learning to bein under moments it is necessary a little
selfish, to make a little morefirm, to be able to defend myself
in one way or another, ascan do what I did some good movie
villain, some character perhaps not themost pleasant that generates such comfortable emotions.
I mean. I think that,as a first question to continue with this
dialogue that we have, it ishow you think the cinema has done you
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have portrayed the whole issue of mentalhealth. From your experience watching movies and
with the additional knowledge you have asa mental health professional. Yeah, when
we talk about mental health, maybewe think right away about emotions and well,
right now it came out two orintensely two that who hasn' t
seen it. I think an excellentmovie so that everyone, no matter how
old they are, can have itand understand a little more how anxiety works,
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how the brain works, how emotionswork in us. But not only
think about when we talk about mentalhealth and cinema, think about movies that
have to do directly with emotions,but also about situations that people may live
with who look like me, forexample, people from vulnerable groups, two
motivated people, LGBT people, watchingmovies also with themes that may have some
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kind of representation cohabitation is that Itoo have been part of that process of
integrating aspects into me, into mymental health and becoming more aware of who
I am that I should work,what not, etc. Yes, and
as you say, those segmented orniche films respond to perhaps certain or different
parts of us that we fear thinkingthere is some idea in particular or that
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I fear going through some personal oremotional challenge. Then it is also something
that contributes a lot to the cinemaof having these different representations with different films
and different people. Yes, Ithink it has made quite some progress on
mental health in the sense of theway in which certain situations are represented,
certain diagnoses, for example, certainconflicts that can occur in life as a
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mourning, a divorce, a situationof some chronic illness. The representation that
may be seen today in the moviesand with the characters tends to be a
little more landed on how real youlive and not how to stigmatize how you
think it might be. Just orme, preparing for this episode, I
read a lot of articles where let' s say you questioned and art in
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general, but specifically the cinema,by the power it has and the weapon
that is like a means of communication, can both be a visibilizing agent of
situations. What these marginalized groups wouldbe like would be quite positive and negative
realities, but it can also bea stigmatizing agent. And I think that
if we have seen something with thedevelopment of the history of cinema and perhaps
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with a consciousness that I understand istied to the whole social aspect and reality,
other than that there is already muchmore talk about the issue of mental
health, if we could say no, that we can, because it has
always been possible, but that theydare to tell those kinds of stories.
Yes, I believe that the wordyportrayal of what is heard a lot today,
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every time we watch serious or moviesand perhaps generations that are a little
younger than we, the children andteenagers who are growing up, will be
lucky enough to grow up seeing certainpeople and groups in a much healthier and
more appropriate way. And maybe we, as we are, maybe a little
more contemporary. We have lived itor identified it more easily with what was
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going on with that Disney princess story, for example, which was always the
figure of the female woman waiting forthe right man to save me from conflict.
These are things that our parents mightnot have thought, they would not
have said how to operate, somethingso rare in this set of history where
the same pattern is repeated and wesee that women always present themselves in this
way, what for us represents thatfigure of women today in society, perhaps
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for the young of the new generationsit will not only be to what they
are acquiring but also to other representations, such as that of people, GBT,
racialized, etcetera. And you,speaking of that, come to mind
of a film that recently premiered,that George Islantimo' s Sportings, where
we see this modern woman, butset in perhaps another time, in something
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dystopian, but that resembles so muchthe reality that we women are living today,
of breaking with all those cultural,economic, social barriers that have been
imposed upon us, obviously over theyears, and I think we are all
Ballabaxster right now that the main characterof this film. So, going around
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there, comes the second question thathow cinema can influence our perspective on social
and cultural issues totally, totally ifa character with certain characteristics in common,
I usually see it as the villain, as the bad one, as the
one who generates conflicts, the onewho always dies my brain. It will
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automatically associate that all the people inmy environment that have these features too are
going to have the same ending asthat character in that series or film,
so it is always very important whenit comes to producing perhaps some audiovisual material.
Be very aware of this, notonly of the bias I have,
but also of the brains that myactors can have, who works, the
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script that assists me in that andall this so that the representation is as
adequate as possible. Yeah, Imean, there' s just a lot
of debate going on that in theend people see the film as that final
product. But the film is aprocess and in this process there are a
lot of people who work, becauseobviously, the cinema, I think the
nicest thing within everything, the nicestthing that has a very collaborative job,
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where a lot of creative people fromdifferent areas come together to crown just product
is debated a lot, I mean, we can even get into this mental
health issue of everyone who works inthe industry, of everyone who is part
of this process to get to thatfinal product. The truth is that when
you are a creative person, forme it was a person who is constantly
in dialogue with your emotions, andI believe that all that you comment comes
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precisely, that is, from theprocess of how to make the film.
I am not really going to giveup that area of debate, to say
because it is a subject that ismuch talked about there. If it comes
to saying the tra let' ssay that if the film as a product
is something you should educate, ifit' s the work of a director,
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it' s really a whole subjectbecause at the end of art and
people see it very much as anexpression. But I do agree that everyone
who has the opportunity to communicate andin their hands has the information as power,
has a responsibility, whether you useit to see or for bad,
because there are people in history whohave done very good things and people who
have done very bad things, andeveryone who had in common power happens the
same with cinema. So I wisheveryone had that conscience, I think,
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but in the end the world isworld. That' s why I think,
yes, I think it' schanging, it' s changing,
it' s getting much better,and society' s also becoming much more
aware of these details that maybe wedidn' t realize about media representation before.
No, and it' s alsobeen through history. What films were
not subject to any kind of socialdebate or the topics they dealt with over
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the years, if they entered theconversation. And I think that' s
part of the same system and ofhow societies are also evolving. And that
' s very important, especially becausein the end I think that I feel
that the main debate is that noteveryone, maybe cinema. How are you
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going to have these deep conversations?How that generates an internal dialogue. How
I can analyze my emotions. Alot of people go to the movies and
that' s fine, just asa way out, and that' s
where our next question goes. Atthe psychological level. That' s two
composite questions. Cinema is used asa form of therapy, working within processes.
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And the second way one, asa spectator, can, apart from
having a pleasant experience, was toapply or view it as a tool for
our own life. Yes, asto whether it can be a resource for
therapy. Definitely and maybe beyond youhave to go to the movies, because
that' s part of a therapythat could be true, but regardless of
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how you can work with seeing sometimesfor example, maybe we don' t
quite understand some situation that' shappening to us. And all our friends
tell us, our family also tellus, but until we see it reflected
in something beyond us, we don' t realize it. Like pussy it
really looks like me or look bringingin the same way I' m going
and look how it ended, orMira isn' t over. I'
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ll get to that point too.So yes, it' s true that
the cinema in the series brings thatmaterial that we can work on therapy,
that narrative, how does that narrativelook reflected in you With what does it
comment at the beginning, with whatcharacter do you identify yourself with, with
what not and why don' tyou identify yourself? With that staff you
have, that character that generates somuch displeasure, so much anger in you,
I mean, yes, I thinkit' s a very useful tool
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to use in therapy, in movies, in music, images, etcetera.
And in the second question was,when I go to the movies, if
there are any tools or things Ican retain and apply in my life.
I mean, well, they gohand in hand. With the first yes
and yes, I mean, ifa movie catches my eye so much the
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most common thing, I' llprobably call a friend to me, my
partner or some relative, and youdon' t know what I saw look.
You have to watch movies. It' s all or twenty characters.
I found it so interesting for sucha reason. So that dialogue that will
generate also with others, with othersalso will always be in some way another
pleasant pleasant and that does good tomental health. And, for example,
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you think there are movies that givebetter sections of life than others, because
we always have that perception that comedies, for example, don' t have
that much to offer us at thenarrative level. Well, I think comedies
are the movie that one can bemost relaxed and, at the same time,
learn something. Not unlike the dramas, which are sometimes or a little
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loaded. They leave you with thatenergy. I also don' t know
what you pity. I think,regardless of the movie, everyone connects more
with a kind of movie, akind of movie stories. Perhaps, for
example, I commented a little whileago that was intensely wonderful, but another
person may have seen it as achildren' s movie, as I didn
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' t leave anything that I didn' t know or made me connect with
anything from w To me, personallyI really like all the movies that have
to do with how they are asreal as possible they are usually seen,
even with the unindependent, which arevery movies that you are watching and you
feel that you are watching a littlecamera that is recording maybe in what the
neighbor does or what some friend oryour own life does. And that'
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s a movie that personally makes memore connected to the cinema and to me.
But I wouldn' t dare saythat maybe comedy movies or that they
handle much more humor, don't teach cinema aces, because even humor
a form also as a defense mechanismthat we used before difficult situations. Oh,
yeah, look, they hit me. No, that' s not
funny. That hurt, didn't it, because you got hit by
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the arm, by the knee orcaused you sadness. So, even if
there' s humor, it stillleaves a message. Yeah, me too.
I don' t know either ifcomedy, I mean, if there
are genres that we can fit in. I think that by itself people would
say drama, because obviously they aremuch more history. I say dramatic faces
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are worth redundancy, but it doesn' t take off. And, in
my opinion, for example, comedyis a super complicated genre, because it
' s very easy. Tonces ayear weeps at you. I feel it
is an emotion that we have veryclose, that is not very familiar,
but happiness is such an ephemeral emotionthat many times we don' t even
realize that we are being happy thenin the comedy that generates you as that
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spark that maybe we don' tregister it. Moreover, a somewhat difficult
genre, that is, makes agood comedy and joke as super universal,
is perhaps difficult. I feel likethat one like maybe the main disconnect you
have. But, like you,I don' t think so. I
would never say that one genre wouldgive you more life lessons than another.
I think in the end that's very personal. I, when basing
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you on the list of which moviesto recommend, realized that they were all
sad and depressed. Not that Iconsider myself to be such a person,
but that, obviously, perhaps thatis the emotion that is closest and that
moves me the most when I think, for example, in movies is to
be recommended. The first one thatalways comes to me is Jim Hardwush'
s Spattersol, in a movie thatI always make. This anecdote I saw
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lasted three days re- analyzing myentire life. Anyone the wate says is
a simple movie of a person whoeither a chauffeur or a chic city in
America, that you' re thathappy wife and I write poetry. But
within that simplicity and routine that hasits life, I was like a call
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to the ground for myself that Ifeel life is going so fast. With
social networks we have too much stimulationand over saturation and we have to pursue
in success and we have to doso many things constantly that when I go
to film that is all the opposite, I can connect. It was as
a call to earth, for mea film that I personally love and that
I would also recommend to anyone whocan see. I don' t know
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if they' ve seen Clowns,one who was nominated last year for the
Oscar. I think that the categoryof international film in the Oscar is a
film that, at least within mycircles, few people know and maybe wouldn
' t want to give much information, because it' s important that they
see it. If he spoke perhapsthree sentences, I already say as very
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important elements, but he does reflectas precisely as two preteens who were very
close since childhood, How is friendshipbroken up by different situations that occur in
the new school, where they enteron how the family handles them and also
on how each of them handles aninitial conflict that they had at the beginning
of the year to decorate. Iwouldn' t want to give you more
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details, but I would recommend thatanyone who can see you see her.
It' s a movie I've seen. I think, like,
three times already and every time Isee it, the tears come out in
automatics. I mean, that movieis strong. It comes to me a
lot too and I like it alot because those friendship narratives are something that
is very much in the cinema todayand how we can that are not necessarily
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those romantic connections that we are seeingin the cinema. And that' s
something very valuable that has evolved,because almost always all the movies I grew
up with were like all romantic,romantic, romantic, and a lot of
idealization. And one thing we areseeing now in the cinema is the value
of that love between friends and howthey can support you in difficult situations.
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And something that' s good rightnow. There' s one called Luca,
which is also from Disney, whichI really liked. There' s
another one called Robot Dreams, froma Spanish movie theater that was also nominated
and it' s something that's moving in the cinema, like breaking
those social barriers. Yeah, Ithink it' s another topic too,
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so we can mention that it's addressing. Yeah, well, I
think that' s always this wholetopic as an internal dialogue and you know
what you want to do in life, existentialist movies. That reminds me a
lot of the hand of God,or, of Henn of Gat, of
Paulorgentine. I feel like it's a movie that' s like a
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therapeutic exercise, in my opinion,that' s what I think of the
director and I also think that he' s the writer, because it has
a little bit to do with hislife and he' s this character a
super young boy who' s makingthe big decisions, because eighteen to thirty,
like life isn' t forced tomake certain important decisions that aren'
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t decisive, because the truth isn' t anymore, but with a reas.
It is a moment and as ayoung context that he is discovering,
that he wants to study at university, that I no longer mean, he
has his family very present, thatalways supports him and passes or devastating fact,
that I will not tell him,that puts in like a hack all
his perception of life, because heloses important people in his life. So
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he wants to be a filmmaker,so he gets into this whole debate of
it. I think everyone who workswith creative things or in general has felt
like he' s just good enough. If who' s interested in my
story, if I have something tocontribute, then like that movie, there
are others, because there' sa series that fille boole in the last
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month that I don' t knowif you saw her named Baby Renders.
Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah? Totally touches a million things,
but it has in common that that' s why I bring it up
with God' s hand, thathe is a person who has a supermarket
dream and that he does almost theimpossible and the possible, even putting on
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delicate situations, to achieve that dream. Yeah, and good of you to
comment on Baby Rander. I thinkeveryone should see her, too. Something
that happens a lot, for example, speaking perhaps more as a psychologist,
more than from the world of cinema, which happens a lot is, for
example, that it becomes very difficultfor us, perhaps sometimes it is to
understand when someone is going through asituation that is so difficult to deal with,
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that he does not even know howto get out of that situation.
And I think Baby Rinder perfectly representswhat a person who is going through multiple
traumatic situations lives through. I thinkit' s also made that, at
least it happened to me that inthe third episode it generated me as a
reaction as but why it doesn't do anything, why it doesn'
t change. I, being apsychologist, even when he arrives I think
that the fifth episode I don't know if the fourth quito where he
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begins to reflect what happened before,is perfectly understood by what he behaves,
how he behaves and because he endsup falling into the same situation one by
one again and again. So Ithink a good series also to understand situations
that not only I live, butI can find myself living my co-
worker, some family member or mybrother, etcetera. There are a lot
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of people who commented from that showthat there was a time when she had
to stop watching. That is somethingthat today' s content is also being
very careful even put a disclaiment atthe beginning, at the end of the
episode or film. When you thinkI kind of pink movies a little bit,
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when you have to say like you' re okay with this, I
have to stop seeing it. Thisis affecting me in a certain way.
Perhaps, for example, many peoplefind it very uncomfortable to see scenes where
there is a lot of blood orparts of the body that may be mutilated.
That' s really images that area little bit strong. But,
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in my opinion, I do notreally know how ethics in the world of
cinema should represent it. But,from my point of view, if what
it reflects is an event that reallyhappened like this in real life, a
historical event, perhaps not all thebad things that are reflected that way in
the cinema, because that' swhat happened. If we don' t
see what happened, let me notunderstand the severity of the matter. Now
yes, it' s just likepure morbidness, because I don' t
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know, maybe I would, butthe truth is that I don' t
handle film ethics so much about what' s appropriate or not about representation on
a screen. Yeah, there Imean. I think it depends a lot,
perhaps on the producer, on whereit is going to be distributed,
because in the end everything is donein the cinema, that is, all
kinds of content, but especially ifyou try to make it a content that
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reaches large masses. Yeah, Iget it, I mean, usually the
big studios and the big distributors,if they have a little bit of rules,
because in the end nobody' sgonna let you have sextive content.
That reminds me of the snow societythat you just mentioned that it' s
a story based on real facts whereit was almost impossible for you not to
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touch certain issues that are very sensitiveand I don' t know the truth,
I mean, I' m notUruguayan, I don' t know
how they feel for them to seethat, but I think that' s
historic so I saw many comments that, contrary to the previous one that is
made alive, this one does showor respects more the part of psychology than
I lived, that is, thosepeople lived and that' s very positive.
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So we' re already getting thatkind of story and I mention it
because if it' s an extremelygraphic movie, that is, I saw
it without knowing anything. I rememberthat I was even having dinner, I
had to stop healing because I couldn' t and that' s why I
say that the cinema is so bigimpact so much because as an audiovisual product,
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it can move me so much,that is, how it can cause
me so much to live parallel thenof the snow. I think a very
good example of films that touch onthese themes, which are sensitive, but
as not now not in the morbidthat I think a subject that happens maybe
a lot with them, the firstbehavioral disorders with mental illness that I don
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' t know there if you haveany opinion of your experience about that work,
perhaps the cinema has made demonstrate thosediseases, those disorders. Yes,
I think that, as we talkedabout at the beginning, there is a
better representation every time about how aperson suffers from some difficult situation in his
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life, whether from some mental healthdiagnosis or some grieving or divorce, conflict
and infidelity, etcetera. So,I certainly think we' re improving the
way they represent. Probably there isstill some producer or some director who could
still do a little better, butin general, if it is represented in
a better way and a way perhapscloser to reality, the experiences that each
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of us can have as human beings, already to go six rando, unfortunately,
hurt our episodes usually last thirty toforty- five. We' re
going that way. He can alreadytake away the shadow of a psychologist from
you. You have some series ofmovies that you consider have given you life
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lessons and that you have already toldyourself several, but others that you would
like to recommend to our listeners.Besides Clowns that Clouse, I have a
real look at her. Ever sinceI saw her, I' ve been
kind of hooked. I' lltake the clouse. I mean, if
there' s a movie I wantto mention again or even if you tell
me, mention another Close. Everybody' s going to Close, I mean,
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I think it was last year.I don' t remember very well,
but a movie that everyone should see. Belgian film, I even think
the director' s name is LucasDon Hunts himself, that is, what
class and have good. I wouldstay with I think I think that you
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lived it today is also called theinfinite memory of Maite Albert, an extremely
delicate, precious film. It dealswith the issue of Alzheimer' s,
which is also the subject we haveseen in several films and which is being
addressed. It is about a Chileancouple, both within the area of art
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communication, and there came a timewhen he begins to suffer from that disease.
And it is how his wife constantlyaccompanies him in that process, that
he is living, an extremely intelligentperson who has read many pounds. He
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keeps saying the movie, talking abouthis books, where his books are.
And I think infinite memory is amovie worth seeing. That reminds me also
of the same director to the molepeople, which is another documentary. I
think she, in particular, thatdirector, is very good at documentaries,
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because I feel that she doesn't have a lot of interference with what
' s going on, that is, she' s literally what you said
after she misses a little camera andpeople make their lives. I feel that
their films look like this and feellike that, so the mole people,
for example, one or another documentary, but that it carries the focus perhaps
something that in all the general countriespeople are unaware and are the elderly people
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and that there is what has beenleft out very much, that is,
this representation in the cinema of olderpeople and the importance and above all the
importance of the care that they shouldhave exactly then that is one that I
too, that is, we wouldrecommend as part of the dialogue of elections,
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especially for one to ask oneself inour nality what one does for those
issues. And you really are awareof why that more or less of a
top or, it' s aspy who enters a senior home that is,
and see if they give him gooddeals, that is, if there
' s care, it' sgood or there' s abuse for grandmas.
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So to me, when I saidI mean, what it' s
gonna be like here, which meansI could be, then I feel like
that, like they have the artsand the movies to catalyze and move.
That documentary also does very well.Another that I would like to mention is
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that perhaps there are people I meantto say is the nunt Lalannent. I
imagine that many people know it isa musical, that is, there is
a fiction, but it is afilm that I feel can move people who
have dreams a lot, who sometimesthink they are very big. And in
the end, I think literally,I mean, the sky is the limit.
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So it' s a movie thatnavigates your bike very well that part.
All that and I want to mentionit, because I know that many
times, like very traditional cinephiles,they don' t like that movie,
but I think one that for peoplewho think these issues are important, can
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serve as motivation. No, andI' m staying with me, I
' m staying and I share mylittle phrase that in movies they cause small
revolutions within us to motivate us tomake decisions in our daily lives and also
to discover things that we sometimes don' t know how to name and that
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we see a movie or a seriesand that' s what we' re
good for. I mean, Ithink the cinema allows a lot of that
we' re going to everything we' ve mentioned, we' re going
to publish it because we' vemade mention of a lot of movies and
a lot of series and others thatI think we can' t stay all
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night talking about movies that come intolife choices, because in the end I
feel like I' m giving youa life lesson. We' re going
to publish it on our page.And now, because this is an open
conversation, we want to open aspace for all people who want to comment
on the subject that they want torecommend some movie or some series they have.
They want to ask you something,what do you talk about the subject
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in the act that the dissenting opensorsall allowed from respect. So if anyone
has any, any comments and cheersup, we pass on the microphone.
Good night and I often see mylove and reproved life. True, already
with this dice I have thought seriouslythat I should sue World Disney forquee World
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Disney fixed me with cinderella the beautifulwhite sleeper. Snow that the dying was
wonderful, that this prince arrived andwe will live happily ever after eating partridges
and that in real life. Sadly, I learned it wasn' t like
that. I tripped a lot andkissed a lot Sapple reference here Thank you.
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Okay. I liked it very muchthat they said the fact that each
person connects to different types of movies, because it happens many times that one
connects so much and sees something inmora in a movie and goes and recommends
it to everyone look at you youhave that and not everyone does not receive
it in the same way and Inotice offends I will go with my sister,
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you saw it and you saw itthen it is so personal and I
liked that they emphasized that, becausewhat you live is what you connect when
you see the movies and nothing.I really liked that comment. Thank you.
Someone else gets so shy about it, okay? I' m very
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series, especially anime. Anime alsogives you a lot of psychology. When
you see the development of the charactersand see them as a character, I
' m going to be loved atfirst, but you understand a focus of
the background that the character has andwhy. Of some reasons also that Biggi
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recently commented on comedy. I amso n very of comedies and Model Family
is an excellent sitcom that develops manycharacters. Already a little bit of a
short where a gay character is forcedto quit his job and he doesn'
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t know what it' s goingto be. He' s giving himself
a panic attack. It influences thepersonal lives of the others and it helped
me to see the character get overa panic attack and how to get bogged
down in order to face a situationthat was making him tickle at work.
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So, thank you for the contributionsyou made today and that left me thinking
about Boire Family. You were makingsomeone else now It' s good I
have scenes. You' re veryinto Family, because I loved that series,
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because it taught me a lot aboutfamily relationships and friendships and with your
partner before like there' s alot of anxiety about confrontation, in conflicts
and every time I had a problem, I was like oh and they'
re not going to let go,that is, they' re not going
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to let talk for ever they didn' t come back and like I wasn
' t going to go to thatlove that I ended up sounding, regardless
of the problem they had that one. Those are things I really liked.
So, another thing I wanted tocomment on is the ethics in the ctim
and how you take care to seecontent that might affect you in some way.
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So, for example, it happenedto me that there was a stage
that I wanted to see subsection andI couldn' t dance because emotionally we
drained too much and I just didn' t visit tark Son leoy I was
and that wow is a very goodseries, but everything that was going on
was so stressful and a constantly overwhelmingthat I just stopped and didn' t
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see it. I mean, they' re things I couldn' t do
to help myself in that sense.Yeah, thanks for what I said you
mentioned, like there are times thatyou see a movie that you say,
there isn' t. I'm not ready. Psychologically to finish it
happened to me with collateral Beury,that of Will Smith, that the skin
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of her child and when already she, as I said and I said,
do not wait, I touch forthis the wall and then, like two
years later I returned it and whenlife said yes, at that time I
was not prepared to see her.So I feel like we have to know
when to pause that ok everything canreally impact a lot emotionally and when if
I' ve prepared you, I' ve come back I don' t
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care if it lasts two or threeyears to see her. Thank you,
thank you very much. I totallyagree with you. I wanted to emphasize
on the part that movies, thatis, that there are movies that really
make you change your way of seeingsomething. That year a movie came out.
I don' t know if they' ve got a show called Chake
Shack that they' re like twoyoung people and I' m in school
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and basically the movie is like anovage eater and it' s like the
friendship of it and how their massgoes away or is distorting by all the
changes that happen. When you givelike in that moment, like fourteen fifteen
and sixteen, that is, youstart going through so much, then I
think that the film is not sopretty, that is, as all that
changes, I also wanted to emphasizethe lan, that is, I love
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the winged truth and the first timewhen I heard it I found it very
funny, because when I went toTwitter to investigate and see what other people
were talking about, I saw asmany sineps and they said it like not
this film snated, that is likeit' s silly me and I kind
of beg to see it from thismovie. I lasted three days processing it
because I liked it too much.So, it' s really done at
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jessmon Lee' s end. Thankyou someone else and have other good comments.
I wanted to talk about a seriesI saw called plat bill. I
don' t know if they've seen him, that he' s
from a gun dealer who' sin jail, but to get him out,
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he had to infiltrate the prison todiscover or unmask a series of girls.
And those episodes to me we hadme when I discovered that he had
on map where he had the fourteengirls and integrated. After that, I
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didn' t, Joson Jordan saidthe pandemic look at her there. They
' re there, look at herthere. And when he sent, he
sent him to the brother' shouse, sent the map and I wished
for such a map and he veryintense. I think it' s six
chapters? Eight the eight chapters?I had all the time stuck there because
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it had me a little bit,it had me stressed out, react mate,
but I needed to see the endand really well recommended them Hi,
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I wanted to mention, I wantedto talk about family movies as well.
In my house there' s adynamic of that little one. Well,
we sit on movies all together andthey' re all shooting movies. I
mean, if you don' tsee a movie in my house that every
second is killing someone or pulling you, it' s not working, but
it' s such a stressful timein family and it feels so beautiful.
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I mean, I can see there' s been a fight that' s
the awkward family time of the week, and if we got into a Jacki
Chang movie, then that went awaylike the movies also bring people together.
It' s not just like amoment for you just sit down and reflect,
but it also helps you, ithelps connect, for example, here
we are. I' ve forgottenthe world out here, man, because
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we' re talking about something Ithink we all like. Good night,
I wanted to ask, I lovedher participation because I kind of went back,
reflects that same thing in family.Of course not a lot of shooting,
because I don' t know howthey can be destressed, but for
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that exercise and truth. But Idid want to ask the real psychologist that
space has charmed me and the diversityof opinions and I wanted to ask him
how one after watching a film thatreally impacts you, either because it is
very much with a hackol or,for example, films that deal with accidents,
for example aerial. Let' sgo to that one that there was
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a little bit more updated one wheneverI' ve given, at least in
my case, how to put andgoogle and re believe there if you had
to fly a week and yourself,that is, how you can deal with
that and what recommendation you can givefor this topic. Yeah, that'
s great. I don' tknow if they saw taking advantage of the
question recently in the Civil War movie. If some people do, yes,
yes, yes. For me thatmovie generated that feeling of me coming out
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of the cinema and it was Ineed to breathe, I need to sit
something down, I need to dobecause I feel too upset and for me
that was that they made the moviesuper good. If you get that feeling,
it means something you did pretty well. And then answering the question of
how we manage our emotions, howwe relax a little bit good if a
movie generates stress or discomfort, likeany other situation, if I had an
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argument at home and I still feelvery angry with anger, very anxious,
stressed, and what helps me tocalm the ban in my face with cold
water, I took a glass ofwater. Talking to someone, we had
a couple of little minutes sitting down. All those self- care strategies that
we may have in place for othertimes can also help us relax. After
watching a film that generates a lotof discomfort, no, and adding a
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little bit to that airplane trauma.I was in January Uruguay, I went
to a film festival in Juan Ignacioand six weeks earlier I had just seen
the society of the Snow and Ijust flew over one of those mountain ranges
of that band and the plane washorrible at one in the morning and it
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was like ok not good in otherwords. I think it' s natural
that one like the plane thing isa problem, that I think that was
the cobo, so we' renot going to get into that so many
people in the part that Paloma saidthat my mom got the attention that out
of shooting what one is her family, I would ask you. I think
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the same thing happens when you doboxing to de- stress you would go
without it to one or more veryaction films. No yes, there are
people who do cause them a lotof discomfort, but there are others who
relax them. And one of thegreat questions, for example, that I
work with maybe more children and teenagersis conchole. But this kid just watch
action movies and only play violence videogames, you' re going back to
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a crime scene. No, notnecessarily. I was also one who grew
up perhaps playing video games where everythinggoes, killing and completing missions. And
that doesn' t really make aperson more violent. If you can perhaps
encourage the symbolic game, that thechild does at that stage by being very
in touch with gun game and thatis to play also the pistols with his
friends or something very similar, butthat does not make a person himself become
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more violent. Of course and inthat same sense, also that of watching
zines or cinema or TV series,how to escape, how to evade.
I don' t know what thoughtI' ve had since your experience.
Obviously, that is, if,for example, we have a difficult situation
and we have several days dealing withit and what relaxes us is watching that
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only episode of the series each whenit came to my home after work.
That' s not necessarily a badthing. As long as we are aware
that we cannot avoid all our livesthe conflict that is not generating discomfort,
that is, at some point,we have to confront it, we have
to understand it, integrate it,work it, but to connect for an
hour to watch a series to relaxand can sleep if it is not something
that necessarily you. Yeah, becausea lot of people you know, it
feels like that culsibility. I havethis problem with you, I have this
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job that I have to solve immediately. But I' m going to sit
down a series, a movie andsomething like night is for sleeping, to
solve problems. Listen to it there, well, we' re already on
it. Feel our episode really thatI think it went a lot better for
you than I imagined. We devoteourselves to preparing ourselves for this and,
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above all, thank you very muchto Blas for joining us. It was
very important to have a person,that is, a psychologist, who would
allow us to make that connection betweencinema, because we read it. We
also need like that education and itdoes that yes n because maybe I feel
that in the routine once it isdisconnected. But it is essential to see
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that and, especially in our space, to give a very important focus to
the issue of mental health, whichis a crucial part of life. So
for that, thank you very muchcan accept our invitation. Thank you very
much, isn' t it?We would also, of course, like
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to thank Acropolis Business Mal for lettingus develop our project here in plenary at
Central and for each of you whoagreed to our invitation and have been a
part of it. Especially because Ifeel like it brings so much value to
these live conversations, because maybe youknow how to talk to each other,
you know, and of course,me, that' s what I'
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m going to say. I didn' t know you, but I thought
more, but you have like theconversation with you to say that they provide
and add value always very important.And it' s like other people have
said, oh side, it unitesus and connects us and we can put
into practice like that empathy and thatrespect for the opinions of others and I
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think that' s something very worthfol Also yes, that is, to
generate community. I think that's something that cinema does and that we
want to keep promoting with the filmmouth. We also want to thank all
the sponsors to Acropolis Pis grind ahvanfielm distribution that gave us all the gifts,
that the winners can then pick upthirty- five millimtrofims CRD or mine
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that buys very important. We've got all of us buckets bear cloth
bags of film mouth with a beautifulphrase and inside some have little gifts that
sponsored us or mine. Also Airianna, who is the photographer who had turned
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around and is sitting there for Ane, who was the person who designed the
todbucxs And finally to dry creemla,which is also part of the gifts that
accompany us along with the joy.And don' t forget to follow us
on our social networks, on Instagram, as the film mouth blows and listen
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to this episode and other super interestingones that we have hosted on our platform
Spotify and Apple Podcast and be attentiveto our upcoming events, our next hults
cinéfilos or chichimas. Thank you,thank you. La Boca filmica is a
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podcast recorded in American Dominican studios andproduced by Dennis Gómez and Loren Fernández.
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