May 14, 2025 • 52 mins
What if your mouthwash were as harmful as a floor cleaner? Join Late Boomers Merry Elkins and Cathy Worthington as they dive into the surprising world of oral health with Heather Paul, a certified biological dental hygienist and founder of Simply Silver Mouthwash. Heather's eye-opening journey began with her daughter's health issues, leading her to question traditional dentistry's hidden dangers. She believes that root canals, and mercury fillings disrupt your body's balance and that commercial oral care products undermine your immune system. Heather shares natural alternatives like colloidal silver and coconut oil, and introduces myofunctional therapy to improve mouth function and prevent diseases shares natural alternatives like colloidal silver and coconut oil, and introduces myofunctional therapy to improve mouth function and prevent diseases. Plus, learn about the shocking links between oral health and systemic diseases like heart disease and Alzheimer's. Don’t miss Heather’s insights from her book, Dentistry Made Easy, and find out how to reclaim your oral health for overall wellness. Tune in now!
Heather Paul's Bio:
Heather the Hygienist is a certified biological dental hygienist, registered dental hygienist, and orofacial myofunctional therapist with 30 years of experience. Originally from farms in Minnesota and Wisconsin, she moved to Florida in the 1980s. Her parents, with their love for natural living, inspired her wellness journey, which deepened when one of her twin daughters faced serious health issues, including food allergies. In 2010, Heather began investigating the chemicals in commercial products, fueling her commitment to healthier alternatives.
Driven to offer patients the cleanest, most effective oral care, Heather created Simply Silver Mouthwash, Toothpaste, and Breath Spray. She is also the author of Dentistry Made Easy: The Consumer’s Guide to Oral Health and Smart Choices and a children’s book, Dorothy and the Tale of the Lost Tooth. A public speaker, practicing clinician, and personal dental consultant, Heather balances her professional life with being a wife and mother to twin daughters. She lives in Tampa, FL, where she enjoys family time and the beach.
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Merry (00:01):
This is the EWN Podcast Network.
Cathy (00:14):
Welcome to Late Boomers, our podcast guide to creating
your third act with style,power, and impact. Hi. I'm Cathy
Worthington.
Merry (00:24):
And I'm Merry Elkins. Join us as we bring you
conversations with successfulentrepreneurs, entertainers, and
people with vision who aremaking a difference in the
world.
Cathy (00:34):
Everyone has a story, and we'll take you along for the
ride on each interview,recounting the journey our
guests have taken to get wherethey are, inspiring you to
create your own path to success.Let's get started. Hello there.
I'm Kathy Worthington. Welcometo our latest episode of late
(00:57):
boomers.
I'm here with my cohost, MaryElkins, and we want you to meet
our unconventional specialguest, dental hygienist and
entrepreneur, Heather Paul, whohas important news for boomers
and all of us about the hiddendangers in traditional
dentistry.
Merry (01:17):
And I'm Merry Elkins. Besides being a certified
biological dental hygienist,she's an orofacial myofunctional
therapist, author, speaker, andalso founder of Simply Silver
Mouthwash. Early in her career,Heather questioned what we were
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taught about our oral health anddiscovered the connection
between it and whole bodywellness. We're looking forward
to hearing all about what shehas to say. Welcome, Heather.
Heather Paul (01:48):
Hi, thank you so much for having me.
Merry (01:50):
Great to have Tell
Cathy (01:53):
us Heather about your background and how you came to
question traditional dentistry.
Heather Paul (02:00):
Well, is definitely a loaded gun question
Merry (02:03):
there. Uh-huh.
Cathy (02:05):
It's a big one.
Heather Paul (02:06):
It is. It's really a big one. I had twin girls in
02/2002. It was a very, verydifficult pregnancy. I didn't
even know I was having twinsactually till eighteen weeks.
So surprise, surprise.
Merry (02:20):
Yeah.
Cathy (02:20):
And then
Heather Paul (02:21):
one of my little girls, she was born, they were
born at thirty three weeks. Sothey were premature, very low
birth weight. And one of mylittle girls had a lot of health
issues. She was just constantlysick and it was really
frustrating trying to figureout, you know, what the root
cause was for her. Turns out shehad like 30 or 25 different food
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allergies, just sensitive.
So I really had to learn how toread a label. She was allergic
to everything. We're talkingwhite flour, sugar, tomatoes,
turkey, soy. So I basicallyreally had to understand, you
know, the ingredients in ourfood. And it was really shocking
actually what they're allowed toput into our food, but that
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didn't actually transcend intolooking into oral care products
until 02/2010 when I thought,you know, I've never really
delved into what the ingredientsare in oral care products.
I was a good hygienist. I didexactly what I was taught in
school, and that is to promotefluoride. Isn't it wonderful?
Everybody needs it. Conventionaldentistry, you know, is the only
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branch of medicine that keepsanything dead inside the body
and that's fruit canals.
But you know, that's what we'retaught in school. But when you
really are on a health journey,you start questioning everything
and looking into the science andthe ingredients. I I was
absolutely shocked to find outthat your companies are allowed
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to put these awful chemicals inyour oral care products because
it falls into the category ofcosmetics. Whatever
Cathy (04:00):
you see Except we're all swallowing it.
Heather Paul (04:02):
It gets into your blood supply because your mouth
is the most vascular part ofyour whole body. So start
looking at say Listerine, I callit cancer in a bottle because
when you see what's in it andyou're absorbing that, by the
way, Listerine was originallycreated to be a floor cleaner.
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Mister Really? Yeah. Lister wasthe the gentleman that created
it.
He rebranded it into mouthwash,and it was because of gonorrhea
and everything back in the day.They thought, you know, hey.
Let's use some floor cleaner.That'll surely clean your mouth
up. But that's how it wasoriginally.
It was originally formulated asfloor cleaner. So it just goes
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to show you the power ofmarketing. But it's extremely
acidic to your mouth. And thenthe ingredients in there contain
things like polyoxamer four zeroseven, which is an endocrine
disruptor, sodium saccharin,which is a known carcinogen, and
of course dyes that are bannedin other countries but allowed
here. You know?
So you're sticking all of thesethings into your mouth, and
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please tell me how that's gonnamake you healthy because your
Cathy (05:09):
mouth tried to clean a floor with
Heather Paul (05:11):
it? Actually, it does
Cathy (05:14):
have because maybe it's a really good floor cleaner. It
might be. Maybe if people haveit in their cabinets, they can
just use it
Heather Paul (05:20):
for Right.
Merry (05:21):
Or maybe even a toilet cleaner.
Heather Paul (05:24):
It it can clean sinks pretty well because the
27% alcohol, you know, kindashines the sink up a little.
Merry (05:31):
But you don't need to
Heather Paul (05:32):
be using acid because it really has a 4.2. And
if your saliva drops below a5.5, that's how you can get a
cavity. So you're swishing withacid, you're disrupting your
oral microbiome. You know, it'sall of these things that when
you just look at theingredients, you're like, why do
I need this? You don't.
And, you know, you're But
Cathy (05:52):
you were a hygienist originally. So how did you how
did you find this out? You werealready a hygienist when you
found this?
Heather Paul (06:00):
Yeah. So I just just started looking more into
the ingredients and then alsowhat happened in 2010 is my
husband had gotten a root canalin 02/2001 on the lower right
side, it's tooth number 30. Andthen also what happened in 2010
is he would get this hugeswollen gland right here. I
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mean, would just blow up like agolf ball and it just kept kind
of coming and going and neverreally going away. And you know
how you get like a gut feelingAnd I'm like, something has to
be going on on the right side ofhis mouth.
So we took a dental x-ray,nothing showed up on the x-ray.
But then as I startedresearching, root canals,
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Pandora's box opened up for meabout understanding your teeth
are organs, they're living, theyhave a blood supply, they have a
nerve. So when you get a rootcanal, you know, you have that
removed to become something deadin your body. So what had
happened is he was having areaction to the dead tooth in
his mouth. When we went to abiological dentist and they did
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a cone beam, you could actuallysee the infection down into the
bone that does not show up on aregular dental X-ray, by the
way.
So we had to have it removed bya biological dentist. It was so
infected in there. They sent himto get an IV right away. And you
know what? It never blew upagain, that's that gland.
So that really just this 2010, Iwas like delving into
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ingredients and root canals.Just totally
Cathy (07:30):
I can see why. Doctor.
Heather Paul (07:31):
Yeah, but it didn't do very well for my
career. Ended up getting firedtwo times because I root canals,
I talked about the dangers offluoride, and that does not go
over very well in today.
Merry (07:43):
That's what I'd like to ask you all about, you know, why
are root canals and mercuryfillings and fluoride, why are
they bad for your health? Andalso I had a couple of other
questions. First of all, whatabout hydrogen peroxide? Because
a lot of dentists tell you togargle with hydrogen peroxide in
water.
Heather Paul (08:03):
That that's an excellent question, Mary. So if
you have any mercury fillings,which if you have a silver
filling, it's 52% mercury byweight. So if you have a mercury
filling in your mouth and youput hydrogen peroxide in your
mouth, it actually leaches thatmercury into your bloodstream.
So no hydrogen peroxide foranyone that has mercury fillings
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in their mouth. The second thingis it's a broad spectrum
antibiotic.
And what I wanted people to knowis that your mouth is a mini
immune system. It has an oralmicrobiome of over 800 different
bacteria, both good and bad. Sowe don't wanna wipe out your
immune system. We wanna bringbalance to it. And that's why pH
is important, not using anythingalcohol based or anything that's
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gonna disrupt your oralmicrobiome, which by the way,
fluoride disrupts your oralmicrobiome.
So you're constantly using likeantiseptic in an area where you
need to be having good bacteriaflourish. This is your first
line of defense. Right? How howwe get viruses is through our
our mucous membranes, our eyes,nose, and mouth. So you don't
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want to be using broad spectrumantibiotics and wiping out all
of your good flora.
So, you know, it is a way tonaturally whiten your teeth. So
if you're going to use hydrogenperoxide, it would only be for a
very, very short period of timefor a very specific purpose if
you're wanting to whiten yourteeth or something, but
definitely not for everyday use.Way way too damaging.
Cathy (09:29):
I have frequently used it for sore throats. It really,
really works on a sore throat.It'll wipe one out in the day.
You know, if you think you'recoming down with something, it
just gets rid of all the stuffin your throat, which shows you
how strong it is.
Heather Paul (09:43):
It's very,
Cathy (09:44):
strong. Use it for my teeth, but, like, if I'm getting
sick, I use it.
Merry (09:48):
But of course, that's affecting
Cathy (09:49):
the teeth.
Merry (09:50):
I've been gargling with that and equal amounts of water
every day, so perhaps I shouldstop.
Heather Paul (09:56):
I wouldn't. Plus it also can damage your
odontoblasts, which are thecells inside your teeth.
Merry (10:05):
That I don't wanna do.
Heather Paul (10:06):
Not a proponent of hydrogen per peroxide.
Merry (10:09):
Well, what tell us a little bit why I don't think a
lot of people connect oralhealth Yeah. With body wellness.
Can you talk about that? And andwithout if something happens to
your mouth, then what happens toyour body?
Heather Paul (10:25):
That yes. This is such a great topic. I think
people compartmentalize themouth mouth from the rest of
their body, but there's no ventat your body. So whatever gets
into your mouth is going intoyour bloodstream and everything
is connected. Like I saidearlier, your teeth are organs,
they're linked to other organs.
People usually tend to fall intoa category of either cavity
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prone or gum disease prone.Sometimes people fall into both
categories. I feel very bad forthose people, but usually it's
one or the other. So we'redealing with trying to find the
root cause of what is creatingthat problem. So someone that is
very cavity prone, I would sayevaluate the airway because if
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you're breathing through yourmouth and you have a dry mouth,
dry mouth is the number onecause of cavities.
So we need to evaluate theairway. We need obviously,
you're susceptible tostreptococcus mutans, which is
the bacteria that causescavities, so we need to get them
on something that kills thatnaturally, which colloidal
silver does. All of my productscontain colloidal silver. But we
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need to find out what pH you'reat. If your if your diet is
ultra processed and you'reeating nothing but junk food and
you're drinking soda Like
Merry (11:38):
most people in in America.
Heather Paul (11:40):
Well, exactly. Your pH
Cathy (11:43):
Speak for yourself.
Merry (11:44):
No. Mine aren't. I eat salads.
Cathy (11:48):
I know what you eat. I'm just teasing you. I'm just
teasing you.
Heather Paul (11:53):
Eat a very acidic diet, and then
Merry (11:55):
their body
Heather Paul (11:56):
is constantly in a state of acidity. So if your
saliva is dropping below that5.5 crucial pH level, you're
gonna get cavities. So we needto get to the root cause. In my
book, Dentistry Made Easy, Ihave chapters on all of this
stuff. If you're gum diseaseprone, that means you could have
an underlying bacterialinfection.
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So we screen, we actually sampleareas in the mouth and send it
to a lab. And then the lab tellsus out of the 11 bacteria, they
have one, they have two, theyhave all 11. I don't know. Get
them on the right antibiotics,treat the root cause. So it's
all about getting to the rootcause.
That's what I love aboutbiological and holistic
dentistry. It's not just lookingat the mouth because if you have
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a disease in your mouth, I don'tcare how much you exercise and
how clean you eat. If you have adisease in your mouth, you have
systemic disease. And a hundredmillion Americans don't go to
the dentist every year nor dothey brush their teeth twice a
day. That's a huge statistic.
So we've got this major chasmbetween oral health and systemic
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health. One doesn't affect theother, but your whole body's
connected. I mean, if you have,you know, your teeth have
meridian points. So a lot oftimes this gets overlooked.
Someone that has cancer, say intheir colon needs to look at,
say, I think it's tooth numberseven that's directly linked to
the colon.
Someone that has a heart shape.
Merry (13:20):
Really? Which teeth can you point out for our YouTube
people which teeth you'retalking No,
Heather Paul (13:26):
actually need to look at a meridian chart and
tooth number seven is let's see,it's this one here.
Merry (13:33):
This one here? On the
Cathy (13:35):
On the top.
Merry (13:35):
Not the second one, but this one here.
Cathy (13:38):
Not Top on the right.
Heather Paul (13:40):
Uh-huh. Yeah. So that would be like tooth number
seven. So there is a meridianchart that people can go look at
and see, hey, you know what?I've been struggling with GI
issues.
What is the tooth number thatthis is connected to? And start
putting that together. Andhonestly, mainstream dentistry
just does not do this, which isso frustrating because again,
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we're not looking at a key pieceof our health and everything is,
you know, really relating towhat's going on inside here
that's going to affect the rest
Merry (14:12):
of What about, I know especially for older people,
there's a connection Iunderstand between oral health
and your healthy heart.
Heather Paul (14:20):
Doctor. And Alzheimer's too. So the 11 bugs
that I said cause periodontaldisease, oh, I think I actually
have a test. I don't know if Ihave it handy or not, but it
actually shows the markers forpancreatic cancer, colorectal
cancer, heart attack, strokes,diabetes from that bacteria. So
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it's a fantastic screening tool.
So there's two bugsspecifically, and forgive me,
their their names are likecrazy. So I'm gonna call one the
AA and the other one the PG.Those two bugs, if you have one
of those two bugs, they areextremely virulent and difficult
to get rid of. But that PGbacteria, that if you've got
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that one, that's also linked topancreatic cancer and
Alzheimer's. Don't you want toknow if you've got that marker?
I know I do. Yeah. Yeah. So it'sa great way to
Cathy (15:13):
Especially if there's a way to wipe it out.
Heather Paul (15:16):
Absolutely. In colorectal cancer, if you have
the FN bacteria over thatthreshold, you are colorectal
cancer. So that's why I'm sayingthe mouth is where we need to be
starting instead of, you know,not going to the dentist. Yeah.
Letting insurance dictate whatyou get done or what you don't
get done.
We really need to change ourthinking in, you know what? This
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is so important. I really needto be paying more attention. I
need to be having good homecare, brushing twice a day with
an electric toothbrush. I needto be flossing the teeth I wanna
keep.
You know, you need to go to thedentist. Finding a provider
that's also on board with theholistic side of things is is
also very important becausemainstream dentistry just isn't
gonna do it.
Merry (15:58):
Well, how many providers are there?
Cathy (16:00):
Oh. Yeah. I was gonna say there can't be very many. There
even might Proportionately.Proportionately.
Heather Paul (16:08):
In California, probably you guys have more, I
would imagine, more holistic.
Merry (16:12):
They don't teach it in school though.
Heather Paul (16:14):
It's separate learning like my certified
biological dental hygienistthing that was additional hours
or a facial myofunctionaltherapist additional hours. This
is not taught in dental ordental hygiene school. Again, if
we're not getting to that rootcause, we're really not able to
help people. I was so tired ofseeing the same patients
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struggle with the same thingover and over and over again,
despite the fact that they werebrushing, despite the fact they
were flossing. Clearly there wassomething else going on inside
their body that was not beingaddressed.
That's why I wrote the book,Dentistry Made Easy. I want
people to be able to find outwhat that root cause is for them
so they don't have to keepstruggling because I know people
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hate going to the dentist. So Iwant to help them be their own
advocate and make smarterchoices so that it's
overwhelming for them when theygo.
Cathy (17:06):
Can you please tell us what what an oral microbiome is?
And what our dentist isn'ttelling us about gum disease,
bad breath, and the oralmicrobiome.
Heather Paul (17:18):
So that oral microbiome, like I mentioned
earlier, is your mini immunesystem, and it can be easily
disrupted. So what we wanna dois we wanna keep it balanced. We
want to avoid things thatcontain alcohol because alcohol
like Listerine is 27% alcoholthat's going to disrupt that.
Merry (17:34):
So are talking about drinking alcohol or basically a
Listerine type of product?
Heather Paul (17:40):
Listerine, anything with alcohol swishing
with that in your mouth. I am aproponent of wine. I mean,
hello. We we need to have some.
Cathy (17:48):
Yeah. And let the record show she's got a glass of wine,
but she's on the East Coast, andwe're taping this very late in
the day. She's done with she'sdone with work. But tell us, go
back to the microbiome. Oh, we
Heather Paul (18:04):
usually wanna use products that are promoting oral
health and not disrupting thatdelicate balance. And I am a big
proponent of coconut oil. I lovecoconut oil.
Cathy (18:14):
Oh, yeah.
Heather Paul (18:15):
Silver. So In your mouth? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. So
my my toothpaste actually is theonly one on the market that is
both oil full and thetoothpaste.
Cause the number one ingredientis coconut oil. So you only need
a little bit. You can squeeze alittle bit in your mouth, melt
it and kind of pull it through.You do need about fifteen
minutes to get a really good,you know, working up the the
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bacteria and you wanna spit thatout. You don't wanna swallow
anything that you swish in yourmouth for more than thirty
seconds.
Definitely spit that out. Butcoconut oil is great. It's a
natural anti inflammatory. Ithelp helps to whiten teeth that,
you know, really it has greathealthy properties to it. And
quigoidal silver is another onethat does not disrupt the oral
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microbiome.
It kills And
Cathy (19:04):
where does that come from?
Heather Paul (19:06):
Quigoidal silver? Well, I have a generator that
generates it and it's from 99.9%silver plates and it's like
ionized through this wholefrequency kind of thing and it
pulls the ions out and createsionized silver that is naturally
antibacterial, antiviral,antifungal, antiparasitic. But
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it like I said, it kills the badbugs and not the good. So it's a
beautiful medium for a mouthwashas it it's not gonna disrupt
anything. And plus, I have abunch of other ingredients in
there because, you know, I'm inthe trenches, right?
Every day.
Merry (19:43):
In the mouth.
Heather Paul (19:43):
I know what works and what doesn't work. And and
it's exciting to see somebodythat actually listens and to see
the change in their healthbecause I mean, I have found
this one gentleman I had beenworking on him for a couple of
years and something was justtotally wrong with him and he
was bleeding profuse, justunnatural bleeding. And I told
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him, I said, you need to go getsome blood work. And he came
back to me the next time andthanked me for saving his life
because he had a blood cancerthat didn't catch.
Merry (20:17):
And it came through his mouth. Amazing. Yeah. So are you
saying that if we use if saywe're we're using your product,
but say we just wanna brush ourteeth with coconut oil. Is that
what you're saying is that thatwould work too?
Heather Paul (20:34):
Yeah. You can. You you certainly can. But I like
baking soda. I like otherminerals.
You know, you wanna have thatclean feeling. And if you just
brush with the oil, it doesn'tnecessarily
Merry (20:47):
make
Heather Paul (20:48):
you know, Be gooey.
Cathy (20:50):
I I like It's gonna stay.
Heather Paul (20:51):
Strong mint. I I love mint. I I wanna
Merry (20:54):
I do too. Yeah.
Heather Paul (20:56):
So that's why I I made my formulas to be Well
They're different.
Merry (21:00):
Does that solve bad breath as well?
Heather Paul (21:03):
So bad breath usually comes from the base of
the tongue and I have a YouTubevideo on showing people how to
actually test for bad breath.And that's just basically you
want to get as much of yourtongue on your hand as possible.
And then you let it air dry andthen you sniff it after a few
seconds and then you'll be ableto tell. Know.
Merry (21:26):
But you
Cathy (21:26):
wanna Wow. I I never heard of that. I never knew
that.
Merry (21:30):
I did.
First thing
Heather Paul (21:31):
you do in the morning when you wake up, go
scrape your tongue and brushyour teeth because our teeth
poop. Right? Our teeth poop andbrushing only gets off 60% of
the poop. The rest is in thetoilet bowl, and that is the
space between your tooth andyour gum. The only way to clean
that out is with manual floss.
This Not the cheaters, theactual string stuff, and most
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people don't do it right. So,you know, you need to use your
middle fingers to wrap the flossaround because if you're just
using those little cheaters,they are not really flossing.
They pop in and out of theteeth, they're not cleaning the
base of the bowl. And you wannaget to the base of the bowl,
which is why you wanna use yourmiddle fingers and just kinda
keep unwinding as you go becauseyou don't reuse toilet paper.
(22:16):
Right?
You don't wanna reuse the samepiece of floss.
Merry (22:19):
So what kind of floss do you use?
Heather Paul (22:21):
I like a natural fiber like Doctor. Tongue's or
Listerine does make a good flossI like called Listerine Ultra
Clean. It's for people that havereally tight teeth, but it has,
like, these little tiny microgrooves on there that do help
pull the plaque out better. Sobut I am still a fan of of a
natural fiber like Doctor. Tung.
Merry (22:42):
So what is myofunctional therapy? And also, why is
breathing through your mouth badfor you? I mean, when you're
exercising, you're breathingthrough your mouth.
Heather Paul (22:54):
You shouldn't. You should always breathe through
your nose, believe it or not.So, oral facial malfunctional
therapy is like physical therapyfor the mouth, the jaw, the
tongue. So we don't tend tothink about this at all. It's
kind of a newer field, but ourmouth is nothing about our mouth
is designed for filtering theair.
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Our lungs are not made to filterair. So when you breathe through
your mouth, it takes at leastsixty five days for your lungs
filter that air that your nosecan do in fifteen minutes, and
then you don't get any nitricoxide. So what happens if you
over breathe? And then also forchildren that are mouth
breathers, you'll notice thattheir jaws grow more vertical as
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opposed to horizontal. We wantthe wide jaw, right?
That creates an open airway. Sothe more narrow you are and the
more recessed chin you have, youhave a compromised airway. So
then what's going to happen,your body is gonna naturally
move your neck forward to openup your airway. You're gonna
have TMJ, neck issues, spineissues, all because your airway
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is compromised. And then ifyou're sleeping with your mouth
open at night, you are keepingyour body in a state of fight or
flight all night long, whichguess what can cause high blood
pressure, anxiety, depression,IBS, autoimmune problems.
So what we want is constant 100%nasal breathing all the time. We
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want a lip seal a % of the time.We want proper tongue posture.
Your tongue should not ever beon the floor of your mouth. It
should be lightly suctioned upto the roof of your mouth.
We want proper swallowing. Sothose are the four things that
we work on with orofacialmyofunctional therapy is we see
what needs to be fixed and wegive you exercises to try and
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compensate. Sometimes you haveto have a dentist, a surgeon
basically that is trained inairway health to do a tongue tie
release because sometimes thattongue is just too tethered. And
what I mean by that is everyonehas a frenum attaching their
tongue to the floor of theirmouth. But when it's that fascia
is connected all the way down toyour feet.
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So sometimes it needs to bereleased.
Merry (25:08):
Wow. Yeah. Well, what about yawning? I mean, have to
yawn with your mouth open unlessyou're really trying to be both
polite and go.
Heather Paul (25:17):
If can try to breathe through your nose, most
of the time, you would be amazedat how much better you feel. I
didn't realize I was overbreathing until I took the
course. And I'm like, no wonderI I sighed like heavy. And it
was because I was breathingthrough my mouth too much. So I
had to retrain my my tongue tobe where it needs to be.
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I had to focus on nasalbreathing and posture work and
and really make some changesbecause I had no idea that it
was so important to be.
Cathy (25:49):
Well, what kind of practitioners teach this?
Heather Paul (25:53):
You'd have to go to someone that's an OMT. As far
as the dentist is concerned,you'd want to have a dentist
that is focused on airway healthand they'll state that in their
list. It's usually a biologicalor holistic dentist again, who
is more trained in the outerskirts of dentistry, so to
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speak.
Merry (26:14):
Are are you creating courses for dental students at
universities? No. Why not? Youshould.
Heather Paul (26:22):
You know, I I don't have the time. I also just
I'm more passionate really aboutkind of getting the word out.
I'll leave that to the academicpeople. I really just want
people to focus more on, youknow, on their mouth and what
they need to do to getthemselves healthy. Because like
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I said
Cathy (26:44):
Bounce back one more time to Mary's question because I
don't think we've touched on itvery much, sleep apnea. Mhmm.
What is that doing to us?
Heather Paul (26:53):
That's that's that open mouth breathing
Cathy (26:55):
Is that the mouth breathing?
Heather Paul (26:57):
Your mouth is open, you're snoring, your
airway is compromised. So eightypercent of people that have
sleep apnea go undiagnosed. Andthat stresses the heart, the
cardiovascular system, whichhigh blood pressure, right?
That's a that's a sign rightthere, high blood pressure. And
then staying in that fight orflight.
Because if you're not gettingoxygen, which is the number one
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nutrient your brain needs,you're going to have major
health effects. And that's whywe recommend in myofunctional
therapy a lot of sleep studies.We want to see what is going on.
The problem a lot of women haveis that especially if they're
more of the thin, petite woman,they have UARS, which is upper
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airway resistance syndrome,which isn't necessarily going to
show on your typical sleep apneasleep study. You would actually
need what's called apolysomnogram because that would
actually detect if they arehaving more of a resistance as
opposed to true apnea.
So getting the right test onboard is also very important.
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And I talk about this in mybook, Dentistry Made Easy. I
know I'm throwing a lot ofinformation out there. So if
you'd like to delve more, pleaseget the book. It talks about
everything that you need toknow.
It's truly a consumer's handguide. But yeah, sleep apnea is
a huge health problem andkeeping that body in that fight
or flight all night. If yourbody can't get into
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parasympathetic, it has no wayto rest or digest, which is why
you can have a lot of gut issuesand and just generalized
inflammation in your bodybecause your body's never get
that state of rest.
Cathy (28:31):
Oh, important. Also, us about the future of non toxic
dentistry.
Heather Paul (28:39):
So I believe we are headed more towards the nano
hydroxyapatite side of thingsbecause, you know, are you
saying in sixty five years wehaven't come up with something
better than fluoride? Of course,we have. It's called nano
hydroxyapatite, and NASAactually created it back in the
seventies for the astronautsbecause they noticed that they
would lose bone density andtheir their enamel and
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everything would be affected. Soour teeth are actually made out
of 97% hydroxyapatite crystals.So when you use an anti
hydroxyapatite product, it's bioidentical, meaning your body
recognizes it.
So you're giving your body whatit needs. Again, always get to
that root cause. Give your bodywhat it needs and it will try to
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heal itself. So fluoride is it'sa halogen. Right?
It's a mutagen. It was proven ina federal court last August 24
that it reduces the IQ, thatit's a neurotoxin. You don't
need it. You don't need topoison yourself to good health.
I just I don't agree with that.
Anything that has a poison labelon it, do you really want it in
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your body? I mean, you don'tneed it. There's no such thing
as a fluoride deficiency on theplanet because it is not an
essential nutrient. Youabsolutely do not need fluoride
for healthy, strong teeth. Whatfluoride supposedly does is it
creates, fluorapatite when itmixes with that, And that's a
form of hydroxyapatite.
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Why not just use hydroxyapatite?Why not use something that
Cathy (30:07):
Where does that come from? Where does that come from?
Heather Paul (30:10):
So there's two forms of hydroxyapatite. You can
either get it from bovine or itcan be, created like synthetic.
So I use the synthetic versionbecause I wanted my product to
be vegan. So I don't the bovinehydroxyapatite. And also the
particle size itself is a littletoo large for your enamel to
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recognize it.
So the nano size andnanoparticle is small enough
that it is absorbed with theenamel. You can never regrow
enamel, but you can remineralizeenamel. So that's why it's so
important you don't wear awayyour enamel with brushing with
really, abrasive ingredients,hydrated silica, charcoal, you
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know, bentonite clay. Thesethings are damaging to your
enamel. So you wanna use thingsthat are going to help your
enamel, be low abrasive, butalso, you know, effective, which
nano hydroxyapatite iswonderful.
Merry (31:07):
Would you spell that for our audience?
Heather Paul (31:10):
Nano is n a n o, And then separate word
hydroxyapatite, and it's h y d roh, hold on a second.
Merry (31:20):
Gotta write down No. That's why.
Heather Paul (31:21):
Hydroxy. Okay. So it's h y d r o. I oh, hold on a
second. I can't even spell.
See? Maybe I've had too muchwine. Hold on. Okay. Alright.
I got it. It's h y d r o x y a pa t I t e. Hydroxyapatite.
Cathy (31:48):
I know. Oh, and is that an ingredient in some of your
products?
Heather Paul (31:52):
Yes. I have it in all my toothpaste, and I also
have it in my spearmintmouthwash. This one is more for
people that have, like, drymouth, cavity issues, and, like,
more of a mild rinse. I've gotbaking soda, Xylitol, fantastic
for raising the pH, The MCT oil,colloidal silver. So if you're
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more cavity prone, I woulddefinitely suggest the spearmint
line.
If you're somebody that isdealing with gum issues, like
bleeding gums and and just gumdisease in general, the mint or
the cinnamon mouthwash would begreat for that because I
actually use something in therecalled I know it's it's weird.
Dragon's blood. Rock CrotonLunch Larry's sap, but it's from
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the, Peru's dragon tree, andit's a sap that actually if you
were to cut yourself and you putthe sap on, it's like a natural
band aid. So it really helpsaddress bleeding. It's very
medicinal and it's
Cathy (32:46):
So it's called dragon blood, but it helps us with
bleeding or whatever. Okay.
Heather Paul (32:51):
Use the actual word that the term is raw
croton, which Larry sap. That'sthe name on the label, but it's
called dragon's blood becauseit's red and it makes the
mouthwash look like this browncolor, but it is extremely
medicinal. So a little bit justgoes a long way. But like I
said, people usually fall intothe category of either cavity
prone or gum disease prone. So Icreated a line of products that
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would really address everythingthat people tell me they're
dealing with, whether it besensitive eating gums or
constantly getting cavities, Iwanted to feel comfortable
recommending something tosomeone that didn't have a PEG
40 or a a PLOXMER four zeroseven in there, you know.
Well, so to
Cathy (33:33):
You're a chemist.
Merry (33:35):
Yeah. You are. You're a definite chemist. I'm hoping our
audience is paying very closeattention. But did you do you
think that this is the future ofnontoxic dentistry?
Do you think dentists are goingto start listening?
Heather Paul (33:48):
I do because I think you're starting to see a
shift in what consumers want,and that is they are wanting
more natural products and it'sgrowing at an exponential rate.
So I I think if they're lookingat the the bottom line, it's
there's a real market for it.And you're starting to see I'm
seeing three m is starting topick up on nano hydroxyapatite,
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prophy paste, and varnishes, andstuff like that. So, yeah,
they're just about forty yearsbehind the times, but I I
believe they will hopefullyeventually catch up.
Merry (34:21):
That's a while. So what what would you say are the real
root causes of gum disease?
Heather Paul (34:28):
If someone is constantly dealing with gum
disease despite their oral care,like if they are really on top
of their oral care with thebrushing and the flossing and
water picking and going to thedentist and they're still
dealing with gum disease, theyhave an underlying root cause of
either like a parasiticbacterial infection. They could
have an MTHFR mutation. And Iknow that's like a weird word a
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lot of people haven't heard of,but fifty percent of Americans
actually have this mutation anddon't know it. And and a lot of
times what it what it does is itinhibits
Cathy (35:01):
Fifty percent?
Heather Paul (35:03):
Fifty percent of Americans. Yes. Five zeroes have
an MTHFR mutation and don't knowit. And so that means your body
does not detoxify very well, andit needs methylfolate. So you're
you're not able to process.
It's like a methylation problem.So you need specific vitamins.
You need a way to detox, whetherit be Epsom salt baths, saunas,
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dry, brushing, but it's dealingwith an inflammation that you if
you know how if you know thatyou have this mutation, it just
helps you, you know, with whatyou need to take to prevent
things and to deal with it sothat you're able to help your
body out. Sometimes it's
Cathy (35:42):
And how do we find out if we have that mutation?
Heather Paul (35:45):
Right. A real easy you can actually order that test
on Amazon for like a hundred and$20. It's a saliva swab, and
they'll send you back a reportletting you know whether or not
you got the mutation or not.
Cathy (35:57):
Wow. I'm gonna get it. What do you call that?
Heather Paul (36:00):
What do you
Cathy (36:00):
what what's it called?
Heather Paul (36:02):
MTHFR mutation test.
Merry (36:06):
M e x h m e h x I.
Cathy (36:10):
M t h.
Merry (36:13):
F r. R.
Heather Paul (36:15):
Yeah. F r. M t h.
Cathy (36:17):
And then what comes after that? Test? Mutation. Mutation
test.
Heather Paul (36:23):
Yep. Mhmm. Yeah. So that's a really good
indicator. And then I offer onmy website an oral DNA test, and
that is to check on whether ornot you have a bacterial
infection that is parasiterelated or bacterial related,
and that will screen for the 11bacteria.
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So that's another one, the MTHFRmutation. And then also, again,
airway. If you're breathingthrough your mouth, you're
constantly disrupting your oralmicrobiome. You're gonna have
bleeding gums. So we gotta fixthat.
Sometimes it's also an oxalatetoxicity, and oxalates are found
in vegetables. Right? So wethink sometimes that the
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greener, you know, all thespinach and the almonds. But if
you're somebody like myself thatcan't that has an MTHFR mutation
that doesn't detoxify very well,I can't have a lot of oxalates.
It makes me toxic.
So then that gives me a lot ofindigestion and all kinds of
joint pain because of, you know
Merry (37:27):
I was going to going to ask you about indigestion and
and gut health, and teethbecause I know people who have a
lot of problems with that.
Heather Paul (37:35):
Absolutely. Well, again, there's a systemic thing.
For for so long, it's alwaysbeen either you go to the
dentist and just have your teethlooked at, or you go to the
medical doctor and, you know,but there's no correlation
between the two. And I'm reallyhoping to start focusing on,
well, maybe the problem iscoming from my mouth and causing
something else inside my body.
Merry (37:56):
So I'm
Heather Paul (37:57):
like, here first and find a provider that is on
board with that, get thetesting, find out what your root
cause is, and go from there.Because if you have, you know,
dead root canals in in yourmouth, it could be definitely
creating, an issue. What oneperson can deal with that same
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thing on someone else could bethe death of them. I mean, so
sometimes people can have rootcanals and never have a problem,
but that same root canal andsomeone else that just can't
handle it is going to tank themand, you know, have one health
issue after another. So everyoneis different, and that's why you
have to be your own healthadvocate.
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Speak up for yourself. You know?Don't be afraid to ask
questions. And I again, in mybook, I tell you everything that
you need to know, the questionsyou need to ask, the miss and
misconceptions that are outthere. We we address that.
So I just really hope thatpeople will
Merry (38:54):
take it more seriously because it's just such a huge
problem. Well,
Cathy (39:01):
why is commercial mouthwash and toothpaste bad for
us? That's my question, but Ithink you've really answered it.
But Yeah. Elaborate a littlebit.
Heather Paul (39:12):
It's disrupting that oral microbiome. It's using
chemicals that are way toostrong. You remember back in the
day with the triclosan that wasin all the hand soaps. Right?
Merry (39:22):
Oh, yeah. The what? The what?
Heather Paul (39:24):
The hand soaps. The triclosan. It was called
triclosan. And it
Cathy (39:28):
was I didn't know nothing.
Heather Paul (39:29):
The antiseptic hand soap. It what they found
was it was stripping the naturalstuff from your hands and
creating more bad bugs toflourish because we were wiping
everything out. And so theyremoved it from hand soap. It
used to be in toothpaste aswell. So you don't wanna be
wiping out this delicatebalance.
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We wanna we wanna get ithealthy. We wanna find out. We
wanna eliminate products thatare gonna disrupt it. We wanna
do everything we can whether itbe supplementation, you know,
sometimes if you're not gettingenough vitamin D, it's going to
show. Right?
With women, I mean, we tend tolose more bone than men. So, you
know, the first place thatyou're going to see is the
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jawbone, but you don't feel yourbone rotting. And I think too
many times people wait till theyfeel a problem, but you're never
gonna feel gum disease untilyour teeth are ready to fall
out. But the signs and symptomsare there, bleeding either when
you brush or floss properly, bythe way. Sometimes the bad taste
or odor in your mouth, that's asign.
Never going to feel a cavityuntil it hits the nerve because
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enamel has no feeling. So wewant to get away from the
mindset of, well, nothing'shurting me. Well, it won't until
it's too late. So, you know, ifyou want to be preventative, you
want to get dental X rays once ayear. You want to prevent
something from becoming a biggerissue, especially if you're a
little bit sick.
I mean, you know, if you nevergot an oil change on your
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vehicle ever, never put oil init, you can't get mad at the
mechanic when you blow theengine. I mean, so don't get mad
at dental professionals when youhave a $15,000 treatment plan
because of neglect. So neglectis extremely expensive. Do the
things that will help protectyour teeth, use the right
products, get your teethcleaned, go to the dentist, you
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know, be proactive with yourhealth, but don't, you know, get
mad at the provider because ofthe cost because you didn't take
care of yourself. I mean, wereally need to start taking
responsibility.
Merry (41:24):
I think you've just answered a question I've had,
which is can you give us somepractical oral health tips? But
how can we take a more holisticapproach to our oral health?
Heather Paul (41:37):
Well, I think the first step is throwing out
anything that has a poison labelon it. Look at the ingredients.
I mean, and you don't even haveto listen to me. Just go take
the ingredients and look up onan SDS sheet, which is the
safety data sheet. And you tellme if that's something you
really want going into yourbloodstream.
I mean, you know, so reallystart looking at the
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ingredients. So I my my motto isditch the toxins. So you can
make one step. I know it can beoverwhelming when you're trying
to get healthy, but it's alwaysone step at a time. Make one
small change at a time.
Ditch the soda. You don't needto be drinking something that
has a pH of 2.5. That's mainingredient is phosphoric acid.
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Switch it to kombucha. You know,it's a fermented tea.
It's an acquired taste, but youhave alternatives. So I would
just say start making one smallchange at a time. Make sure that
you have a really good electrictoothbrush, which on my website,
I have one that I really, reallylike. I give a discount code.
It, you know, saves you, like,40% on it.
Use the right aids. So have agood
Cathy (42:39):
Which one is the one you like?
Heather Paul (42:41):
I like the Burst because it has a lifetime I
Cathy (42:45):
haven't heard of that.
Heather Paul (42:46):
What is it called?
Cathy (42:47):
Burst. Burst.
Heather Paul (42:48):
E u r s t. Yeah. It's on my website, and I offer
discount code because it has afour week, recharge thing. So I
don't like things being pluggedin on my countertop. So this
will hold the charge for fourweeks.
And as long as you get the headcome to you every three months,
it's guaranteed for life. Andmine actually broke down after
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four years, and they wanted alittle ten second video, and
they sent me a brand new brush.So I love it. It's simple. You
don't it's not fancy.
It's it's $69 if you had nodiscount. So it's not a lot of
money. It has a lifetimeguarantee. And, again, watch my
video on how to brush properlybecause most people do not do
that nor do they floss properly.So watch the videos, but have
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the right aids and use the rightproducts, but eat healthy.
I mean, you know, again, wecan't if if you're a hundred
pounds overweight and youcontinue to eat fast food,
you're not going to lose weight.I mean,
Cathy (43:47):
you have
Heather Paul (43:47):
the right choices. You have to do the right thing.
So if you wanna be healthy, youjust have to start making that
shift. Right.
Cathy (43:54):
Well, what's the alternative to having a root
canal? Because so many peoplehave them. And a lot of boomers
have them. I've never had one,so I don't know much about it
why you get it. But
Merry (44:06):
I have.
Cathy (44:06):
Tell but tell us what's the alternative.
Heather Paul (44:09):
So, in my book, I have a chapter on on root canals
and cavitations and all of that,but you would want to have the
tooth properly extracted becauseif you don't, again, brain
doesn't send the signal to thebone to regenerate bone. So it
creates that dead bone, thatcavitation there, which is
unhealthy. So you want to havethe tooth extracted properly and
have a ceramic implant placed,not titanium. Okay. In fact, an
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article I think just came outwas it last week or the week
before, where they're startingto see, all of these hip
replacement, knee replacementsthat are made out of titanium.
All of this is showing up intheir blood and their brain. You
know, titanium is not somethingthat's healthy inside of your
body. And you put it so close-upto your brain, it can create a
galvanic response, autoimmuneresponse. So I am not for
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titanium. Plus a lot of men havea nickel allergy.
You know, when they wear thefake jewelry and their skin
turns green, that means thatthey are allergic to nickel and
nickel is in your titaniumimplant. So, you know, you're
oftentimes putting somethingthat your body is allergic to
and then it can fail. So you dowant to use a ceramic implant.
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You could also do a bridge, adental bridge, which is the
downside of doing that is thetooth in front and the tooth
behind the space is involved. Sowhat I mean by involved is they
have to prepare that tooth.
So they are removing some of theenamel on the front and the back
to bridge that gap. So that isalso an option. Or if it's just
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one tooth, you can do what'scalled a little flipper, but I
really don't recommend those.Most people hate them and don't
wear them. So I would say eithera dental bridge or a ceramic
implant would be the best way togo.
Merry (45:54):
Well, I mean, what about if you've already had a few and
you're not really wanting toextract them?
Heather Paul (46:01):
You know, that is definitely an individual
decision, but I had worked withsomeone who had breast cancer.
And she went to a holisticdentist, and her mouth, when
they got in there, it was anunbelievable mess. And now she
feels so much better. I mean so,you know but she had some some
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health issues. She had breastcancer, so she definitely was
ready.
She was at that place where shewas willing to take that next
step. I think she had five orsix that she extracted. Doctor.
Joseph Eisels was a dentist. Hewas an oncologist, I believe in
Germany that worked with womenthat had breast cancer.
He would not work with themunless they removed the root
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canal teeth. What he often foundis the same side that the tumor
in the breast was, was the sameside of the root canal. So he
made them take out the rootcanal tooth or he wouldn't work
with them.
Cathy (46:56):
And there's and cancer is so epidemic and people don't
relate it any ever to yourmouth.
Merry (47:02):
Never.
Cathy (47:02):
Never even heard that.
Heather Paul (47:05):
Using Listerine, twenty seven percent alcohol can
cause throat and mouth cancer.How much throat and mouth cancer
is out there?
Merry (47:11):
Okay, I'm going to start washing my floors with Tell us
about your books, Dentistry MadeEasy and The Great Tooth
Deception. I know that you'vesaid quite a bit about them, but
give us a few more pointersabout them.
Heather Paul (47:25):
So dentistry made easy, that is something I think
everybody would really benefitfrom. I have a chapter on
children's health, oral healthand myofunctional therapy, root
canals, fluoride. It's justreally to get people more
knowledge on the basics. Mybook, The Great Revealing the
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Dark Side of Dentistry, I amreleasing that next month. I'm a
little bit nervous to releasethat one.
Merry (47:53):
Good timing. Yeah.
Heather Paul (47:56):
Because it's very contrarian, you know, so I
literally get into likeScientology and dentistry, the
whole thing about fluoride,where that came from, you know,
who actually started all of thatand mercury and all of that. So,
you know, it's quite an exposeon the field, the upselling, you
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know, because I think so manytimes people are so used to
medical insurance that when theyassume they have dental
insurance, they think it's goingto be as good as medical. And
it's just, it's so not.Unfortunately, insurance
benefits have not increasedsince the 1980s, at least. So
has increased by what?
(48:40):
Tenfold at least, but thebenefits have not increased. And
I want people to not just say,oh, well, I only want what my
insurance covers. Your insurancedoesn't cover Jack Diddley
Squad. So now that to, you know,for your health, you're you're
gonna have to get off thatmindset. It's like a discount
plan.
(49:00):
I actually wrote RFK Jr. Andasked him to please address
dental insurance because it it'ssuch a a problem. I mean, how is
it that they can continue totake premiums from people and
not increase benefits from theeighties? I find that criminal.
You know?
Really, it really needs to berevamped.
Merry (49:19):
Yeah. Did he answer?
Heather Paul (49:21):
No. But why isn't it why isn't dental covered
under medical? It really shouldbe.
Cathy (49:27):
Mhmm.
Heather Paul (49:28):
That's very important.
Cathy (49:29):
Think so.
Heather Paul (49:30):
Yeah. Separate. Exactly. I mean, can go to an
ENT that's covered, but, youknow, your teeth, that's a whole
another thing. I mean, you candine Heather.
Cathy (49:38):
Eat. Heather, what would you like our audience to have as
a takeaway today?
Heather Paul (49:44):
I would say, please floss the teeth you wanna
keep. How's that?
Cathy (49:49):
What? Say it again?
Heather Paul (49:50):
Floss the teeth you wanna keep.
Cathy (49:53):
Yeah. Floss the teeth you wanna keep.
Merry (49:56):
Yeah. Right. I love that. Thank you. I wish we had more
time, Heather.
There's so much more I think weand our audience would love to
know. But thank you very much,Heather. Our guest today on Late
Boomers has been Heather Paul,dental hygienist, speaker,
author, entrepreneur, andfounder of Simply Silver
(50:18):
Mouthwash. You can connect withHeather via her website,
simplysilvermouthwash.com. AndHeather, you said one thing
about what they can find on yourwebsite?
Heather Paul (50:31):
Oh, yeah. They can find all of my products on
there, and they can also contactme, through the website. So if
anyone has any questions, pleasefeel free to reach out.
Cathy (50:41):
Thank you. That's great. Thank you for listening to our
late boomers podcast today andsubscribing to our late boomers
podcast channel on YouTube.Listen in next week when you'll
meet Elizabeth Bruckner, whowill tell us about the ways we
can live a healthier and morejoyful life. You can listen on
any podcast platform, and we doappreciate you.
(51:03):
Please follow us on Instagram atI am Kathy Worthington and at I
am Mary Elkins and at lateboomers. Thanks again, Heather
Paul.
Heather Paul (51:13):
Thank you.
Cathy (51:24):
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I'm Kathy Worthington. Welcometo our latest episode of late
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boomers.
I'm here with my cohost, MaryElkins, and we want you to meet
our unconventional specialguest, dental hygienist and
entrepreneur, Heather Paul, whohas important news for boomers
and all of us about the hiddendangers in traditional
dentistry.
Merry (01:17):
And I'm Merry Elkins. Besides being a certified
biological dental hygienist,she's an orofacial myofunctional
therapist, author, speaker, andalso founder of Simply Silver
Mouthwash. Early in her career,Heather questioned what we were
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taught about our oral health anddiscovered the connection
between it and whole bodywellness. We're looking forward
to hearing all about what shehas to say. Welcome, Heather.
Heather Paul (01:48):
Hi, thank you so much for having me.
Merry (01:50):
Great to have Tell
Cathy (01:53):
us Heather about your background and how you came to
question traditional dentistry.
Heather Paul (02:00):
Well, is definitely a loaded gun question
Merry (02:03):
there. Uh-huh.
Cathy (02:05):
It's a big one.
Heather Paul (02:06):
It is. It's really a big one. I had twin girls in
02/2002. It was a very, verydifficult pregnancy. I didn't
even know I was having twinsactually till eighteen weeks.
So surprise, surprise.
Merry (02:20):
Yeah.
Cathy (02:20):
And then
Heather Paul (02:21):
one of my little girls, she was born, they were
born at thirty three weeks. Sothey were premature, very low
birth weight. And one of mylittle girls had a lot of health
issues. She was just constantlysick and it was really
frustrating trying to figureout, you know, what the root
cause was for her. Turns out shehad like 30 or 25 different food
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allergies, just sensitive.
So I really had to learn how toread a label. She was allergic
to everything. We're talkingwhite flour, sugar, tomatoes,
turkey, soy. So I basicallyreally had to understand, you
know, the ingredients in ourfood. And it was really shocking
actually what they're allowed toput into our food, but that
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didn't actually transcend intolooking into oral care products
until 02/2010 when I thought,you know, I've never really
delved into what the ingredientsare in oral care products.
I was a good hygienist. I didexactly what I was taught in
school, and that is to promotefluoride. Isn't it wonderful?
Everybody needs it. Conventionaldentistry, you know, is the only
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branch of medicine that keepsanything dead inside the body
and that's fruit canals.
But you know, that's what we'retaught in school. But when you
really are on a health journey,you start questioning everything
and looking into the science andthe ingredients. I I was
absolutely shocked to find outthat your companies are allowed
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to put these awful chemicals inyour oral care products because
it falls into the category ofcosmetics. Whatever
Cathy (04:00):
you see Except we're all swallowing it.
Heather Paul (04:02):
It gets into your blood supply because your mouth
is the most vascular part ofyour whole body. So start
looking at say Listerine, I callit cancer in a bottle because
when you see what's in it andyou're absorbing that, by the
way, Listerine was originallycreated to be a floor cleaner.
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Mister Really? Yeah. Lister wasthe the gentleman that created
it.
He rebranded it into mouthwash,and it was because of gonorrhea
and everything back in the day.They thought, you know, hey.
Let's use some floor cleaner.That'll surely clean your mouth
up. But that's how it wasoriginally.
It was originally formulated asfloor cleaner. So it just goes
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to show you the power ofmarketing. But it's extremely
acidic to your mouth. And thenthe ingredients in there contain
things like polyoxamer four zeroseven, which is an endocrine
disruptor, sodium saccharin,which is a known carcinogen, and
of course dyes that are bannedin other countries but allowed
here. You know?
So you're sticking all of thesethings into your mouth, and
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please tell me how that's gonnamake you healthy because your
Cathy (05:09):
mouth tried to clean a floor with
Heather Paul (05:11):
it? Actually, it does
Cathy (05:14):
have because maybe it's a really good floor cleaner. It
might be. Maybe if people haveit in their cabinets, they can
just use it
Heather Paul (05:20):
for Right.
Merry (05:21):
Or maybe even a toilet cleaner.
Heather Paul (05:24):
It it can clean sinks pretty well because the
27% alcohol, you know, kindashines the sink up a little.
Merry (05:31):
But you don't need to
Heather Paul (05:32):
be using acid because it really has a 4.2. And
if your saliva drops below a5.5, that's how you can get a
cavity. So you're swishing withacid, you're disrupting your
oral microbiome. You know, it'sall of these things that when
you just look at theingredients, you're like, why do
I need this? You don't.
And, you know, you're But
Cathy (05:52):
you were a hygienist originally. So how did you how
did you find this out? You werealready a hygienist when you
found this?
Heather Paul (06:00):
Yeah. So I just just started looking more into
the ingredients and then alsowhat happened in 2010 is my
husband had gotten a root canalin 02/2001 on the lower right
side, it's tooth number 30. Andthen also what happened in 2010
is he would get this hugeswollen gland right here. I
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mean, would just blow up like agolf ball and it just kept kind
of coming and going and neverreally going away. And you know
how you get like a gut feelingAnd I'm like, something has to
be going on on the right side ofhis mouth.
So we took a dental x-ray,nothing showed up on the x-ray.
But then as I startedresearching, root canals,
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Pandora's box opened up for meabout understanding your teeth
are organs, they're living, theyhave a blood supply, they have a
nerve. So when you get a rootcanal, you know, you have that
removed to become something deadin your body. So what had
happened is he was having areaction to the dead tooth in
his mouth. When we went to abiological dentist and they did
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a cone beam, you could actuallysee the infection down into the
bone that does not show up on aregular dental X-ray, by the
way.
So we had to have it removed bya biological dentist. It was so
infected in there. They sent himto get an IV right away. And you
know what? It never blew upagain, that's that gland.
So that really just this 2010, Iwas like delving into
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ingredients and root canals.Just totally
Cathy (07:30):
I can see why. Doctor.
Heather Paul (07:31):
Yeah, but it didn't do very well for my
career. Ended up getting firedtwo times because I root canals,
I talked about the dangers offluoride, and that does not go
over very well in today.
Merry (07:43):
That's what I'd like to ask you all about, you know, why
are root canals and mercuryfillings and fluoride, why are
they bad for your health? Andalso I had a couple of other
questions. First of all, whatabout hydrogen peroxide? Because
a lot of dentists tell you togargle with hydrogen peroxide in
water.
Heather Paul (08:03):
That that's an excellent question, Mary. So if
you have any mercury fillings,which if you have a silver
filling, it's 52% mercury byweight. So if you have a mercury
filling in your mouth and youput hydrogen peroxide in your
mouth, it actually leaches thatmercury into your bloodstream.
So no hydrogen peroxide foranyone that has mercury fillings
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in their mouth. The second thingis it's a broad spectrum
antibiotic.
And what I wanted people to knowis that your mouth is a mini
immune system. It has an oralmicrobiome of over 800 different
bacteria, both good and bad. Sowe don't wanna wipe out your
immune system. We wanna bringbalance to it. And that's why pH
is important, not using anythingalcohol based or anything that's
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gonna disrupt your oralmicrobiome, which by the way,
fluoride disrupts your oralmicrobiome.
So you're constantly using likeantiseptic in an area where you
need to be having good bacteriaflourish. This is your first
line of defense. Right? How howwe get viruses is through our
our mucous membranes, our eyes,nose, and mouth. So you don't
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want to be using broad spectrumantibiotics and wiping out all
of your good flora.
So, you know, it is a way tonaturally whiten your teeth. So
if you're going to use hydrogenperoxide, it would only be for a
very, very short period of timefor a very specific purpose if
you're wanting to whiten yourteeth or something, but
definitely not for everyday use.Way way too damaging.
Cathy (09:29):
I have frequently used it for sore throats. It really,
really works on a sore throat.It'll wipe one out in the day.
You know, if you think you'recoming down with something, it
just gets rid of all the stuffin your throat, which shows you
how strong it is.
Heather Paul (09:43):
It's very,
Cathy (09:44):
strong. Use it for my teeth, but, like, if I'm getting
sick, I use it.
Merry (09:48):
But of course, that's affecting
Cathy (09:49):
the teeth.
Merry (09:50):
I've been gargling with that and equal amounts of water
every day, so perhaps I shouldstop.
Heather Paul (09:56):
I wouldn't. Plus it also can damage your
odontoblasts, which are thecells inside your teeth.
Merry (10:05):
That I don't wanna do.
Heather Paul (10:06):
Not a proponent of hydrogen per peroxide.
Merry (10:09):
Well, what tell us a little bit why I don't think a
lot of people connect oralhealth Yeah. With body wellness.
Can you talk about that? And andwithout if something happens to
your mouth, then what happens toyour body?
Heather Paul (10:25):
That yes. This is such a great topic. I think
people compartmentalize themouth mouth from the rest of
their body, but there's no ventat your body. So whatever gets
into your mouth is going intoyour bloodstream and everything
is connected. Like I saidearlier, your teeth are organs,
they're linked to other organs.
People usually tend to fall intoa category of either cavity
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prone or gum disease prone.Sometimes people fall into both
categories. I feel very bad forthose people, but usually it's
one or the other. So we'redealing with trying to find the
root cause of what is creatingthat problem. So someone that is
very cavity prone, I would sayevaluate the airway because if
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you're breathing through yourmouth and you have a dry mouth,
dry mouth is the number onecause of cavities.
So we need to evaluate theairway. We need obviously,
you're susceptible tostreptococcus mutans, which is
the bacteria that causescavities, so we need to get them
on something that kills thatnaturally, which colloidal
silver does. All of my productscontain colloidal silver. But we
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need to find out what pH you'reat. If your if your diet is
ultra processed and you'reeating nothing but junk food and
you're drinking soda Like
Merry (11:38):
most people in in America.
Heather Paul (11:40):
Well, exactly. Your pH
Cathy (11:43):
Speak for yourself.
Merry (11:44):
No. Mine aren't. I eat salads.
Cathy (11:48):
I know what you eat. I'm just teasing you. I'm just
teasing you.
Heather Paul (11:53):
Eat a very acidic diet, and then
Merry (11:55):
their body
Heather Paul (11:56):
is constantly in a state of acidity. So if your
saliva is dropping below that5.5 crucial pH level, you're
gonna get cavities. So we needto get to the root cause. In my
book, Dentistry Made Easy, Ihave chapters on all of this
stuff. If you're gum diseaseprone, that means you could have
an underlying bacterialinfection.
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So we screen, we actually sampleareas in the mouth and send it
to a lab. And then the lab tellsus out of the 11 bacteria, they
have one, they have two, theyhave all 11. I don't know. Get
them on the right antibiotics,treat the root cause. So it's
all about getting to the rootcause.
That's what I love aboutbiological and holistic
dentistry. It's not just lookingat the mouth because if you have
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a disease in your mouth, I don'tcare how much you exercise and
how clean you eat. If you have adisease in your mouth, you have
systemic disease. And a hundredmillion Americans don't go to
the dentist every year nor dothey brush their teeth twice a
day. That's a huge statistic.
So we've got this major chasmbetween oral health and systemic
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health. One doesn't affect theother, but your whole body's
connected. I mean, if you have,you know, your teeth have
meridian points. So a lot oftimes this gets overlooked.
Someone that has cancer, say intheir colon needs to look at,
say, I think it's tooth numberseven that's directly linked to
the colon.
Someone that has a heart shape.
Merry (13:20):
Really? Which teeth can you point out for our YouTube
people which teeth you'retalking No,
Heather Paul (13:26):
actually need to look at a meridian chart and
tooth number seven is let's see,it's this one here.
Merry (13:33):
This one here? On the
Cathy (13:35):
On the top.
Merry (13:35):
Not the second one, but this one here.
Cathy (13:38):
Not Top on the right.
Heather Paul (13:40):
Uh-huh. Yeah. So that would be like tooth number
seven. So there is a meridianchart that people can go look at
and see, hey, you know what?I've been struggling with GI
issues.
What is the tooth number thatthis is connected to? And start
putting that together. Andhonestly, mainstream dentistry
just does not do this, which isso frustrating because again,
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we're not looking at a key pieceof our health and everything is,
you know, really relating towhat's going on inside here
that's going to affect the rest
Merry (14:12):
of What about, I know especially for older people,
there's a connection Iunderstand between oral health
and your healthy heart.
Heather Paul (14:20):
Doctor. And Alzheimer's too. So the 11 bugs
that I said cause periodontaldisease, oh, I think I actually
have a test. I don't know if Ihave it handy or not, but it
actually shows the markers forpancreatic cancer, colorectal
cancer, heart attack, strokes,diabetes from that bacteria. So
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it's a fantastic screening tool.
So there's two bugsspecifically, and forgive me,
their their names are likecrazy. So I'm gonna call one the
AA and the other one the PG.Those two bugs, if you have one
of those two bugs, they areextremely virulent and difficult
to get rid of. But that PGbacteria, that if you've got
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that one, that's also linked topancreatic cancer and
Alzheimer's. Don't you want toknow if you've got that marker?
I know I do. Yeah. Yeah. So it'sa great way to
Cathy (15:13):
Especially if there's a way to wipe it out.
Heather Paul (15:16):
Absolutely. In colorectal cancer, if you have
the FN bacteria over thatthreshold, you are colorectal
cancer. So that's why I'm sayingthe mouth is where we need to be
starting instead of, you know,not going to the dentist. Yeah.
Letting insurance dictate whatyou get done or what you don't
get done.
We really need to change ourthinking in, you know what? This
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is so important. I really needto be paying more attention. I
need to be having good homecare, brushing twice a day with
an electric toothbrush. I needto be flossing the teeth I wanna
keep.
You know, you need to go to thedentist. Finding a provider
that's also on board with theholistic side of things is is
also very important becausemainstream dentistry just isn't
gonna do it.
Merry (15:58):
Well, how many providers are there?
Cathy (16:00):
Oh. Yeah. I was gonna say there can't be very many. There
even might Proportionately.Proportionately.
Heather Paul (16:08):
In California, probably you guys have more, I
would imagine, more holistic.
Merry (16:12):
They don't teach it in school though.
Heather Paul (16:14):
It's separate learning like my certified
biological dental hygienistthing that was additional hours
or a facial myofunctionaltherapist additional hours. This
is not taught in dental ordental hygiene school. Again, if
we're not getting to that rootcause, we're really not able to
help people. I was so tired ofseeing the same patients
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struggle with the same thingover and over and over again,
despite the fact that they werebrushing, despite the fact they
were flossing. Clearly there wassomething else going on inside
their body that was not beingaddressed.
That's why I wrote the book,Dentistry Made Easy. I want
people to be able to find outwhat that root cause is for them
so they don't have to keepstruggling because I know people
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hate going to the dentist. So Iwant to help them be their own
advocate and make smarterchoices so that it's
overwhelming for them when theygo.
Cathy (17:06):
Can you please tell us what what an oral microbiome is?
And what our dentist isn'ttelling us about gum disease,
bad breath, and the oralmicrobiome.
Heather Paul (17:18):
So that oral microbiome, like I mentioned
earlier, is your mini immunesystem, and it can be easily
disrupted. So what we wanna dois we wanna keep it balanced. We
want to avoid things thatcontain alcohol because alcohol
like Listerine is 27% alcoholthat's going to disrupt that.
Merry (17:34):
So are talking about drinking alcohol or basically a
Listerine type of product?
Heather Paul (17:40):
Listerine, anything with alcohol swishing
with that in your mouth. I am aproponent of wine. I mean,
hello. We we need to have some.
Cathy (17:48):
Yeah. And let the record show she's got a glass of wine,
but she's on the East Coast, andwe're taping this very late in
the day. She's done with she'sdone with work. But tell us, go
back to the microbiome. Oh, we
Heather Paul (18:04):
usually wanna use products that are promoting oral
health and not disrupting thatdelicate balance. And I am a big
proponent of coconut oil. I lovecoconut oil.
Cathy (18:14):
Oh, yeah.
Heather Paul (18:15):
Silver. So In your mouth? Oh, yeah. Absolutely. So
my my toothpaste actually is theonly one on the market that is
both oil full and thetoothpaste.
Cause the number one ingredientis coconut oil. So you only need
a little bit. You can squeeze alittle bit in your mouth, melt
it and kind of pull it through.You do need about fifteen
minutes to get a really good,you know, working up the the
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bacteria and you wanna spit thatout. You don't wanna swallow
anything that you swish in yourmouth for more than thirty
seconds.
Definitely spit that out. Butcoconut oil is great. It's a
natural anti inflammatory. Ithelp helps to whiten teeth that,
you know, really it has greathealthy properties to it. And
quigoidal silver is another onethat does not disrupt the oral
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microbiome.
It kills And
Cathy (19:04):
where does that come from?
Heather Paul (19:06):
Quigoidal silver? Well, I have a generator that
generates it and it's from 99.9%silver plates and it's like
ionized through this wholefrequency kind of thing and it
pulls the ions out and createsionized silver that is naturally
antibacterial, antiviral,antifungal, antiparasitic. But
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it like I said, it kills the badbugs and not the good. So it's a
beautiful medium for a mouthwashas it it's not gonna disrupt
anything. And plus, I have abunch of other ingredients in
there because, you know, I'm inthe trenches, right?
Every day.
Merry (19:43):
In the mouth.
Heather Paul (19:43):
I know what works and what doesn't work. And and
it's exciting to see somebodythat actually listens and to see
the change in their healthbecause I mean, I have found
this one gentleman I had beenworking on him for a couple of
years and something was justtotally wrong with him and he
was bleeding profuse, justunnatural bleeding. And I told
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him, I said, you need to go getsome blood work. And he came
back to me the next time andthanked me for saving his life
because he had a blood cancerthat didn't catch.
Merry (20:17):
And it came through his mouth. Amazing. Yeah. So are you
saying that if we use if saywe're we're using your product,
but say we just wanna brush ourteeth with coconut oil. Is that
what you're saying is that thatwould work too?
Heather Paul (20:34):
Yeah. You can. You you certainly can. But I like
baking soda. I like otherminerals.
You know, you wanna have thatclean feeling. And if you just
brush with the oil, it doesn'tnecessarily
Merry (20:47):
make
Heather Paul (20:48):
you know, Be gooey.
Cathy (20:50):
I I like It's gonna stay.
Heather Paul (20:51):
Strong mint. I I love mint. I I wanna
Merry (20:54):
I do too. Yeah.
Heather Paul (20:56):
So that's why I I made my formulas to be Well
They're different.
Merry (21:00):
Does that solve bad breath as well?
Heather Paul (21:03):
So bad breath usually comes from the base of
the tongue and I have a YouTubevideo on showing people how to
actually test for bad breath.And that's just basically you
want to get as much of yourtongue on your hand as possible.
And then you let it air dry andthen you sniff it after a few
seconds and then you'll be ableto tell. Know.
Merry (21:26):
But you
Cathy (21:26):
wanna Wow. I I never heard of that. I never knew
that.
Merry (21:30):
I did.
First thing
Heather Paul (21:31):
you do in the morning when you wake up, go
scrape your tongue and brushyour teeth because our teeth
poop. Right? Our teeth poop andbrushing only gets off 60% of
the poop. The rest is in thetoilet bowl, and that is the
space between your tooth andyour gum. The only way to clean
that out is with manual floss.
This Not the cheaters, theactual string stuff, and most
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people don't do it right. So,you know, you need to use your
middle fingers to wrap the flossaround because if you're just
using those little cheaters,they are not really flossing.
They pop in and out of theteeth, they're not cleaning the
base of the bowl. And you wannaget to the base of the bowl,
which is why you wanna use yourmiddle fingers and just kinda
keep unwinding as you go becauseyou don't reuse toilet paper.
(22:16):
Right?
You don't wanna reuse the samepiece of floss.
Merry (22:19):
So what kind of floss do you use?
Heather Paul (22:21):
I like a natural fiber like Doctor. Tongue's or
Listerine does make a good flossI like called Listerine Ultra
Clean. It's for people that havereally tight teeth, but it has,
like, these little tiny microgrooves on there that do help
pull the plaque out better. Sobut I am still a fan of of a
natural fiber like Doctor. Tung.
Merry (22:42):
So what is myofunctional therapy? And also, why is
breathing through your mouth badfor you? I mean, when you're
exercising, you're breathingthrough your mouth.
Heather Paul (22:54):
You shouldn't. You should always breathe through
your nose, believe it or not.So, oral facial malfunctional
therapy is like physical therapyfor the mouth, the jaw, the
tongue. So we don't tend tothink about this at all. It's
kind of a newer field, but ourmouth is nothing about our mouth
is designed for filtering theair.
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Our lungs are not made to filterair. So when you breathe through
your mouth, it takes at leastsixty five days for your lungs
filter that air that your nosecan do in fifteen minutes, and
then you don't get any nitricoxide. So what happens if you
over breathe? And then also forchildren that are mouth
breathers, you'll notice thattheir jaws grow more vertical as
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opposed to horizontal. We wantthe wide jaw, right?
That creates an open airway. Sothe more narrow you are and the
more recessed chin you have, youhave a compromised airway. So
then what's going to happen,your body is gonna naturally
move your neck forward to openup your airway. You're gonna
have TMJ, neck issues, spineissues, all because your airway
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is compromised. And then ifyou're sleeping with your mouth
open at night, you are keepingyour body in a state of fight or
flight all night long, whichguess what can cause high blood
pressure, anxiety, depression,IBS, autoimmune problems.
So what we want is constant 100%nasal breathing all the time. We
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want a lip seal a % of the time.We want proper tongue posture.
Your tongue should not ever beon the floor of your mouth. It
should be lightly suctioned upto the roof of your mouth.
We want proper swallowing. Sothose are the four things that
we work on with orofacialmyofunctional therapy is we see
what needs to be fixed and wegive you exercises to try and
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compensate. Sometimes you haveto have a dentist, a surgeon
basically that is trained inairway health to do a tongue tie
release because sometimes thattongue is just too tethered. And
what I mean by that is everyonehas a frenum attaching their
tongue to the floor of theirmouth. But when it's that fascia
is connected all the way down toyour feet.
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So sometimes it needs to bereleased.
Merry (25:08):
Wow. Yeah. Well, what about yawning? I mean, have to
yawn with your mouth open unlessyou're really trying to be both
polite and go.
Heather Paul (25:17):
If can try to breathe through your nose, most
of the time, you would be amazedat how much better you feel. I
didn't realize I was overbreathing until I took the
course. And I'm like, no wonderI I sighed like heavy. And it
was because I was breathingthrough my mouth too much. So I
had to retrain my my tongue tobe where it needs to be.
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I had to focus on nasalbreathing and posture work and
and really make some changesbecause I had no idea that it
was so important to be.
Cathy (25:49):
Well, what kind of practitioners teach this?
Heather Paul (25:53):
You'd have to go to someone that's an OMT. As far
as the dentist is concerned,you'd want to have a dentist
that is focused on airway healthand they'll state that in their
list. It's usually a biologicalor holistic dentist again, who
is more trained in the outerskirts of dentistry, so to
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speak.
Merry (26:14):
Are are you creating courses for dental students at
universities? No. Why not? Youshould.
Heather Paul (26:22):
You know, I I don't have the time. I also just
I'm more passionate really aboutkind of getting the word out.
I'll leave that to the academicpeople. I really just want
people to focus more on, youknow, on their mouth and what
they need to do to getthemselves healthy. Because like
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I said
Cathy (26:44):
Bounce back one more time to Mary's question because I
don't think we've touched on itvery much, sleep apnea. Mhmm.
What is that doing to us?
Heather Paul (26:53):
That's that's that open mouth breathing
Cathy (26:55):
Is that the mouth breathing?
Heather Paul (26:57):
Your mouth is open, you're snoring, your
airway is compromised. So eightypercent of people that have
sleep apnea go undiagnosed. Andthat stresses the heart, the
cardiovascular system, whichhigh blood pressure, right?
That's a that's a sign rightthere, high blood pressure. And
then staying in that fight orflight.
Because if you're not gettingoxygen, which is the number one
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nutrient your brain needs,you're going to have major
health effects. And that's whywe recommend in myofunctional
therapy a lot of sleep studies.We want to see what is going on.
The problem a lot of women haveis that especially if they're
more of the thin, petite woman,they have UARS, which is upper
(27:37):
airway resistance syndrome,which isn't necessarily going to
show on your typical sleep apneasleep study. You would actually
need what's called apolysomnogram because that would
actually detect if they arehaving more of a resistance as
opposed to true apnea.
So getting the right test onboard is also very important.
(27:58):
And I talk about this in mybook, Dentistry Made Easy. I
know I'm throwing a lot ofinformation out there. So if
you'd like to delve more, pleaseget the book. It talks about
everything that you need toknow.
It's truly a consumer's handguide. But yeah, sleep apnea is
a huge health problem andkeeping that body in that fight
or flight all night. If yourbody can't get into
(28:19):
parasympathetic, it has no wayto rest or digest, which is why
you can have a lot of gut issuesand and just generalized
inflammation in your bodybecause your body's never get
that state of rest.
Cathy (28:31):
Oh, important. Also, us about the future of non toxic
dentistry.
Heather Paul (28:39):
So I believe we are headed more towards the nano
hydroxyapatite side of thingsbecause, you know, are you
saying in sixty five years wehaven't come up with something
better than fluoride? Of course,we have. It's called nano
hydroxyapatite, and NASAactually created it back in the
seventies for the astronautsbecause they noticed that they
would lose bone density andtheir their enamel and
(29:00):
everything would be affected. Soour teeth are actually made out
of 97% hydroxyapatite crystals.So when you use an anti
hydroxyapatite product, it's bioidentical, meaning your body
recognizes it.
So you're giving your body whatit needs. Again, always get to
that root cause. Give your bodywhat it needs and it will try to
(29:21):
heal itself. So fluoride is it'sa halogen. Right?
It's a mutagen. It was proven ina federal court last August 24
that it reduces the IQ, thatit's a neurotoxin. You don't
need it. You don't need topoison yourself to good health.
I just I don't agree with that.
Anything that has a poison labelon it, do you really want it in
(29:42):
your body? I mean, you don'tneed it. There's no such thing
as a fluoride deficiency on theplanet because it is not an
essential nutrient. Youabsolutely do not need fluoride
for healthy, strong teeth. Whatfluoride supposedly does is it
creates, fluorapatite when itmixes with that, And that's a
form of hydroxyapatite.
(30:04):
Why not just use hydroxyapatite?Why not use something that
Cathy (30:07):
Where does that come from? Where does that come from?
Heather Paul (30:10):
So there's two forms of hydroxyapatite. You can
either get it from bovine or itcan be, created like synthetic.
So I use the synthetic versionbecause I wanted my product to
be vegan. So I don't the bovinehydroxyapatite. And also the
particle size itself is a littletoo large for your enamel to
(30:33):
recognize it.
So the nano size andnanoparticle is small enough
that it is absorbed with theenamel. You can never regrow
enamel, but you can remineralizeenamel. So that's why it's so
important you don't wear awayyour enamel with brushing with
really, abrasive ingredients,hydrated silica, charcoal, you
(30:55):
know, bentonite clay. Thesethings are damaging to your
enamel. So you wanna use thingsthat are going to help your
enamel, be low abrasive, butalso, you know, effective, which
nano hydroxyapatite iswonderful.
Merry (31:07):
Would you spell that for our audience?
Heather Paul (31:10):
Nano is n a n o, And then separate word
hydroxyapatite, and it's h y d roh, hold on a second.
Merry (31:20):
Gotta write down No. That's why.
Heather Paul (31:21):
Hydroxy. Okay. So it's h y d r o. I oh, hold on a
second. I can't even spell.
See? Maybe I've had too muchwine. Hold on. Okay. Alright.
I got it. It's h y d r o x y a pa t I t e. Hydroxyapatite.
Cathy (31:48):
I know. Oh, and is that an ingredient in some of your
products?
Heather Paul (31:52):
Yes. I have it in all my toothpaste, and I also
have it in my spearmintmouthwash. This one is more for
people that have, like, drymouth, cavity issues, and, like,
more of a mild rinse. I've gotbaking soda, Xylitol, fantastic
for raising the pH, The MCT oil,colloidal silver. So if you're
(32:13):
more cavity prone, I woulddefinitely suggest the spearmint
line.
If you're somebody that isdealing with gum issues, like
bleeding gums and and just gumdisease in general, the mint or
the cinnamon mouthwash would begreat for that because I
actually use something in therecalled I know it's it's weird.
Dragon's blood. Rock CrotonLunch Larry's sap, but it's from
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the, Peru's dragon tree, andit's a sap that actually if you
were to cut yourself and you putthe sap on, it's like a natural
band aid. So it really helpsaddress bleeding. It's very
medicinal and it's
Cathy (32:46):
So it's called dragon blood, but it helps us with
bleeding or whatever. Okay.
Heather Paul (32:51):
Use the actual word that the term is raw
croton, which Larry sap. That'sthe name on the label, but it's
called dragon's blood becauseit's red and it makes the
mouthwash look like this browncolor, but it is extremely
medicinal. So a little bit justgoes a long way. But like I
said, people usually fall intothe category of either cavity
prone or gum disease prone. So Icreated a line of products that
(33:13):
would really address everythingthat people tell me they're
dealing with, whether it besensitive eating gums or
constantly getting cavities, Iwanted to feel comfortable
recommending something tosomeone that didn't have a PEG
40 or a a PLOXMER four zeroseven in there, you know.
Well, so to
Cathy (33:33):
You're a chemist.
Merry (33:35):
Yeah. You are. You're a definite chemist. I'm hoping our
audience is paying very closeattention. But did you do you
think that this is the future ofnontoxic dentistry?
Do you think dentists are goingto start listening?
Heather Paul (33:48):
I do because I think you're starting to see a
shift in what consumers want,and that is they are wanting
more natural products and it'sgrowing at an exponential rate.
So I I think if they're lookingat the the bottom line, it's
there's a real market for it.And you're starting to see I'm
seeing three m is starting topick up on nano hydroxyapatite,
(34:12):
prophy paste, and varnishes, andstuff like that. So, yeah,
they're just about forty yearsbehind the times, but I I
believe they will hopefullyeventually catch up.
Merry (34:21):
That's a while. So what what would you say are the real
root causes of gum disease?
Heather Paul (34:28):
If someone is constantly dealing with gum
disease despite their oral care,like if they are really on top
of their oral care with thebrushing and the flossing and
water picking and going to thedentist and they're still
dealing with gum disease, theyhave an underlying root cause of
either like a parasiticbacterial infection. They could
have an MTHFR mutation. And Iknow that's like a weird word a
(34:53):
lot of people haven't heard of,but fifty percent of Americans
actually have this mutation anddon't know it. And and a lot of
times what it what it does is itinhibits
Cathy (35:01):
Fifty percent?
Heather Paul (35:03):
Fifty percent of Americans. Yes. Five zeroes have
an MTHFR mutation and don't knowit. And so that means your body
does not detoxify very well, andit needs methylfolate. So you're
you're not able to process.
It's like a methylation problem.So you need specific vitamins.
You need a way to detox, whetherit be Epsom salt baths, saunas,
(35:25):
dry, brushing, but it's dealingwith an inflammation that you if
you know how if you know thatyou have this mutation, it just
helps you, you know, with whatyou need to take to prevent
things and to deal with it sothat you're able to help your
body out. Sometimes it's
Cathy (35:42):
And how do we find out if we have that mutation?
Heather Paul (35:45):
Right. A real easy you can actually order that test
on Amazon for like a hundred and$20. It's a saliva swab, and
they'll send you back a reportletting you know whether or not
you got the mutation or not.
Cathy (35:57):
Wow. I'm gonna get it. What do you call that?
Heather Paul (36:00):
What do you
Cathy (36:00):
what what's it called?
Heather Paul (36:02):
MTHFR mutation test.
Merry (36:06):
M e x h m e h x I.
Cathy (36:10):
M t h.
Merry (36:13):
F r. R.
Heather Paul (36:15):
Yeah. F r. M t h.
Cathy (36:17):
And then what comes after that? Test? Mutation. Mutation
test.
Heather Paul (36:23):
Yep. Mhmm. Yeah. So that's a really good
indicator. And then I offer onmy website an oral DNA test, and
that is to check on whether ornot you have a bacterial
infection that is parasiterelated or bacterial related,
and that will screen for the 11bacteria.
(36:44):
So that's another one, the MTHFRmutation. And then also, again,
airway. If you're breathingthrough your mouth, you're
constantly disrupting your oralmicrobiome. You're gonna have
bleeding gums. So we gotta fixthat.
Sometimes it's also an oxalatetoxicity, and oxalates are found
in vegetables. Right? So wethink sometimes that the
(37:07):
greener, you know, all thespinach and the almonds. But if
you're somebody like myself thatcan't that has an MTHFR mutation
that doesn't detoxify very well,I can't have a lot of oxalates.
It makes me toxic.
So then that gives me a lot ofindigestion and all kinds of
joint pain because of, you know
Merry (37:27):
I was going to going to ask you about indigestion and
and gut health, and teethbecause I know people who have a
lot of problems with that.
Heather Paul (37:35):
Absolutely. Well, again, there's a systemic thing.
For for so long, it's alwaysbeen either you go to the
dentist and just have your teethlooked at, or you go to the
medical doctor and, you know,but there's no correlation
between the two. And I'm reallyhoping to start focusing on,
well, maybe the problem iscoming from my mouth and causing
something else inside my body.
Merry (37:56):
So I'm
Heather Paul (37:57):
like, here first and find a provider that is on
board with that, get thetesting, find out what your root
cause is, and go from there.Because if you have, you know,
dead root canals in in yourmouth, it could be definitely
creating, an issue. What oneperson can deal with that same
(38:18):
thing on someone else could bethe death of them. I mean, so
sometimes people can have rootcanals and never have a problem,
but that same root canal andsomeone else that just can't
handle it is going to tank themand, you know, have one health
issue after another. So everyoneis different, and that's why you
have to be your own healthadvocate.
(38:39):
Speak up for yourself. You know?Don't be afraid to ask
questions. And I again, in mybook, I tell you everything that
you need to know, the questionsyou need to ask, the miss and
misconceptions that are outthere. We we address that.
So I just really hope thatpeople will
Merry (38:54):
take it more seriously because it's just such a huge
problem. Well,
Cathy (39:01):
why is commercial mouthwash and toothpaste bad for
us? That's my question, but Ithink you've really answered it.
But Yeah. Elaborate a littlebit.
Heather Paul (39:12):
It's disrupting that oral microbiome. It's using
chemicals that are way toostrong. You remember back in the
day with the triclosan that wasin all the hand soaps. Right?
Merry (39:22):
Oh, yeah. The what? The what?
Heather Paul (39:24):
The hand soaps. The triclosan. It was called
triclosan. And it
Cathy (39:28):
was I didn't know nothing.
Heather Paul (39:29):
The antiseptic hand soap. It what they found
was it was stripping the naturalstuff from your hands and
creating more bad bugs toflourish because we were wiping
everything out. And so theyremoved it from hand soap. It
used to be in toothpaste aswell. So you don't wanna be
wiping out this delicatebalance.
(39:49):
We wanna we wanna get ithealthy. We wanna find out. We
wanna eliminate products thatare gonna disrupt it. We wanna
do everything we can whether itbe supplementation, you know,
sometimes if you're not gettingenough vitamin D, it's going to
show. Right?
With women, I mean, we tend tolose more bone than men. So, you
know, the first place thatyou're going to see is the
(40:10):
jawbone, but you don't feel yourbone rotting. And I think too
many times people wait till theyfeel a problem, but you're never
gonna feel gum disease untilyour teeth are ready to fall
out. But the signs and symptomsare there, bleeding either when
you brush or floss properly, bythe way. Sometimes the bad taste
or odor in your mouth, that's asign.
Never going to feel a cavityuntil it hits the nerve because
(40:31):
enamel has no feeling. So wewant to get away from the
mindset of, well, nothing'shurting me. Well, it won't until
it's too late. So, you know, ifyou want to be preventative, you
want to get dental X rays once ayear. You want to prevent
something from becoming a biggerissue, especially if you're a
little bit sick.
I mean, you know, if you nevergot an oil change on your
(40:51):
vehicle ever, never put oil init, you can't get mad at the
mechanic when you blow theengine. I mean, so don't get mad
at dental professionals when youhave a $15,000 treatment plan
because of neglect. So neglectis extremely expensive. Do the
things that will help protectyour teeth, use the right
products, get your teethcleaned, go to the dentist, you
(41:12):
know, be proactive with yourhealth, but don't, you know, get
mad at the provider because ofthe cost because you didn't take
care of yourself. I mean, wereally need to start taking
responsibility.
Merry (41:24):
I think you've just answered a question I've had,
which is can you give us somepractical oral health tips? But
how can we take a more holisticapproach to our oral health?
Heather Paul (41:37):
Well, I think the first step is throwing out
anything that has a poison labelon it. Look at the ingredients.
I mean, and you don't even haveto listen to me. Just go take
the ingredients and look up onan SDS sheet, which is the
safety data sheet. And you tellme if that's something you
really want going into yourbloodstream.
I mean, you know, so reallystart looking at the
(41:57):
ingredients. So I my my motto isditch the toxins. So you can
make one step. I know it can beoverwhelming when you're trying
to get healthy, but it's alwaysone step at a time. Make one
small change at a time.
Ditch the soda. You don't needto be drinking something that
has a pH of 2.5. That's mainingredient is phosphoric acid.
(42:17):
Switch it to kombucha. You know,it's a fermented tea.
It's an acquired taste, but youhave alternatives. So I would
just say start making one smallchange at a time. Make sure that
you have a really good electrictoothbrush, which on my website,
I have one that I really, reallylike. I give a discount code.
It, you know, saves you, like,40% on it.
Use the right aids. So have agood
Cathy (42:39):
Which one is the one you like?
Heather Paul (42:41):
I like the Burst because it has a lifetime I
Cathy (42:45):
haven't heard of that.
Heather Paul (42:46):
What is it called?
Cathy (42:47):
Burst. Burst.
Heather Paul (42:48):
E u r s t. Yeah. It's on my website, and I offer
discount code because it has afour week, recharge thing. So I
don't like things being pluggedin on my countertop. So this
will hold the charge for fourweeks.
And as long as you get the headcome to you every three months,
it's guaranteed for life. Andmine actually broke down after
(43:11):
four years, and they wanted alittle ten second video, and
they sent me a brand new brush.So I love it. It's simple. You
don't it's not fancy.
It's it's $69 if you had nodiscount. So it's not a lot of
money. It has a lifetimeguarantee. And, again, watch my
video on how to brush properlybecause most people do not do
that nor do they floss properly.So watch the videos, but have
(43:33):
the right aids and use the rightproducts, but eat healthy.
I mean, you know, again, wecan't if if you're a hundred
pounds overweight and youcontinue to eat fast food,
you're not going to lose weight.I mean,
Cathy (43:47):
you have
Heather Paul (43:47):
the right choices. You have to do the right thing.
So if you wanna be healthy, youjust have to start making that
shift. Right.
Cathy (43:54):
Well, what's the alternative to having a root
canal? Because so many peoplehave them. And a lot of boomers
have them. I've never had one,so I don't know much about it
why you get it. But
Merry (44:06):
I have.
Cathy (44:06):
Tell but tell us what's the alternative.
Heather Paul (44:09):
So, in my book, I have a chapter on on root canals
and cavitations and all of that,but you would want to have the
tooth properly extracted becauseif you don't, again, brain
doesn't send the signal to thebone to regenerate bone. So it
creates that dead bone, thatcavitation there, which is
unhealthy. So you want to havethe tooth extracted properly and
have a ceramic implant placed,not titanium. Okay. In fact, an
(44:34):
article I think just came outwas it last week or the week
before, where they're startingto see, all of these hip
replacement, knee replacementsthat are made out of titanium.
All of this is showing up intheir blood and their brain. You
know, titanium is not somethingthat's healthy inside of your
body. And you put it so close-upto your brain, it can create a
galvanic response, autoimmuneresponse. So I am not for
(44:59):
titanium. Plus a lot of men havea nickel allergy.
You know, when they wear thefake jewelry and their skin
turns green, that means thatthey are allergic to nickel and
nickel is in your titaniumimplant. So, you know, you're
oftentimes putting somethingthat your body is allergic to
and then it can fail. So you dowant to use a ceramic implant.
(45:21):
You could also do a bridge, adental bridge, which is the
downside of doing that is thetooth in front and the tooth
behind the space is involved. Sowhat I mean by involved is they
have to prepare that tooth.
So they are removing some of theenamel on the front and the back
to bridge that gap. So that isalso an option. Or if it's just
(45:42):
one tooth, you can do what'scalled a little flipper, but I
really don't recommend those.Most people hate them and don't
wear them. So I would say eithera dental bridge or a ceramic
implant would be the best way togo.
Merry (45:54):
Well, I mean, what about if you've already had a few and
you're not really wanting toextract them?
Heather Paul (46:01):
You know, that is definitely an individual
decision, but I had worked withsomeone who had breast cancer.
And she went to a holisticdentist, and her mouth, when
they got in there, it was anunbelievable mess. And now she
feels so much better. I mean so,you know but she had some some
(46:22):
health issues. She had breastcancer, so she definitely was
ready.
She was at that place where shewas willing to take that next
step. I think she had five orsix that she extracted. Doctor.
Joseph Eisels was a dentist. Hewas an oncologist, I believe in
Germany that worked with womenthat had breast cancer.
He would not work with themunless they removed the root
(46:45):
canal teeth. What he often foundis the same side that the tumor
in the breast was, was the sameside of the root canal. So he
made them take out the rootcanal tooth or he wouldn't work
with them.
Cathy (46:56):
And there's and cancer is so epidemic and people don't
relate it any ever to yourmouth.
Merry (47:02):
Never.
Cathy (47:02):
Never even heard that.
Heather Paul (47:05):
Using Listerine, twenty seven percent alcohol can
cause throat and mouth cancer.How much throat and mouth cancer
is out there?
Merry (47:11):
Okay, I'm going to start washing my floors with Tell us
about your books, Dentistry MadeEasy and The Great Tooth
Deception. I know that you'vesaid quite a bit about them, but
give us a few more pointersabout them.
Heather Paul (47:25):
So dentistry made easy, that is something I think
everybody would really benefitfrom. I have a chapter on
children's health, oral healthand myofunctional therapy, root
canals, fluoride. It's justreally to get people more
knowledge on the basics. Mybook, The Great Revealing the
(47:47):
Dark Side of Dentistry, I amreleasing that next month. I'm a
little bit nervous to releasethat one.
Merry (47:53):
Good timing. Yeah.
Heather Paul (47:56):
Because it's very contrarian, you know, so I
literally get into likeScientology and dentistry, the
whole thing about fluoride,where that came from, you know,
who actually started all of thatand mercury and all of that. So,
you know, it's quite an exposeon the field, the upselling, you
(48:19):
know, because I think so manytimes people are so used to
medical insurance that when theyassume they have dental
insurance, they think it's goingto be as good as medical. And
it's just, it's so not.Unfortunately, insurance
benefits have not increasedsince the 1980s, at least. So
has increased by what?
(48:40):
Tenfold at least, but thebenefits have not increased. And
I want people to not just say,oh, well, I only want what my
insurance covers. Your insurancedoesn't cover Jack Diddley
Squad. So now that to, you know,for your health, you're you're
gonna have to get off thatmindset. It's like a discount
plan.
(49:00):
I actually wrote RFK Jr. Andasked him to please address
dental insurance because it it'ssuch a a problem. I mean, how is
it that they can continue totake premiums from people and
not increase benefits from theeighties? I find that criminal.
You know?
Really, it really needs to berevamped.
Merry (49:19):
Yeah. Did he answer?
Heather Paul (49:21):
No. But why isn't it why isn't dental covered
under medical? It really shouldbe.
Cathy (49:27):
Mhmm.
Heather Paul (49:28):
That's very important.
Cathy (49:29):
Think so.
Heather Paul (49:30):
Yeah. Separate. Exactly. I mean, can go to an
ENT that's covered, but, youknow, your teeth, that's a whole
another thing. I mean, you candine Heather.
Cathy (49:38):
Eat. Heather, what would you like our audience to have as
a takeaway today?
Heather Paul (49:44):
I would say, please floss the teeth you wanna
keep. How's that?
Cathy (49:49):
What? Say it again?
Heather Paul (49:50):
Floss the teeth you wanna keep.
Cathy (49:53):
Yeah. Floss the teeth you wanna keep.
Merry (49:56):
Yeah. Right. I love that. Thank you. I wish we had more
time, Heather.
There's so much more I think weand our audience would love to
know. But thank you very much,Heather. Our guest today on Late
Boomers has been Heather Paul,dental hygienist, speaker,
author, entrepreneur, andfounder of Simply Silver
(50:18):
Mouthwash. You can connect withHeather via her website,
simplysilvermouthwash.com. AndHeather, you said one thing
about what they can find on yourwebsite?
Heather Paul (50:31):
Oh, yeah. They can find all of my products on
there, and they can also contactme, through the website. So if
anyone has any questions, pleasefeel free to reach out.
Cathy (50:41):
Thank you. That's great. Thank you for listening to our
late boomers podcast today andsubscribing to our late boomers
podcast channel on YouTube.Listen in next week when you'll
meet Elizabeth Bruckner, whowill tell us about the ways we
can live a healthier and morejoyful life. You can listen on
any podcast platform, and we doappreciate you.
(51:03):
Please follow us on Instagram atI am Kathy Worthington and at I
am Mary Elkins and at lateboomers. Thanks again, Heather
Paul.
Heather Paul (51:13):
Thank you.
Cathy (51:24):
Thank you for joining us on Late Boomers, the podcast
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