May 29, 2023 • 25 mins
We all want to know the secret to leading a long, happy life, so who better to ask than someone who is 102 yearsold? And all the more qualified as a doctor, and the mother of holistic medicine.This expert is Dr.Gladys McGarey, and in her new book THE WELL-LIVED LIFE: A 102-Year-Old Doctor'sSix Secrets to Health and Happiness at Every Age (Atria May 2, 2023), she shares a philosophy for living life tothe fullest that has healed thousands of her patients and that has guided her own life for over a century.In 1978, Gladys co-founded the American Holistic Medical Association with the goal of bringing a holisticunderstanding—one that unites body, mind, and spirit—to modern Western medicine. Dr. Gladys visits with Mark Alyn on this edition of Late Night Health.
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(00:07):
Late Night Health continues to I'm MarkAllen along with being stayed there a way
and join us at late Night healthdot com. There will be a pretty
picture of doctor Glannis McGarry on ourwebsite as Loan's picture of the cover of
her book. And the book iscalled The Well of Life, one hundred
and two year old Doctors Six Secretsto help Happiness at every age. You
(00:33):
know, I lived a long timeand did all kinds of wonderful things and
which I you know, I havea body that's I am taking care of
and a mind that I'm time totrying to keep clear. And that's my
job right now because there a multitudeof things that I can't do now that
(00:57):
I used to do with ease.But you know, so that's not my
job right now. And you're stillworking, you're still consulting as a doctor.
Well, there's still people who havequestions and I maybe have an answer
to work with them. So yes, I was. I was reading in
(01:22):
the book, and I think theoverwhelming see is love? Oh absolutely,
Where does love come from? Youknow? A friend of mine spent about
when we were working on this book, at least two hours one day trying
(01:45):
to find that very question, andwe said, you know, they've written
songs about paint, things have beenpainted, everything has been described in every
which way, and you know,the answer we came up with was that
if a person has not experienced love, there's no way of explaining it to
(02:09):
them that they would understand, thesame as if you have a person who
was born blind and you try toexplain the color green to them. If
they've never experienced it, how dothey know. So it's that essence of
(02:32):
our very life, essence that islove. And if we have experienced it
and lost it and know what it'sabout, and gone through the process of
living our lives and know what loveis, nobody needs to really tell us
(02:58):
except they use the word we knowwhat we're talking about. I'm thinking of
number of songs, the Beatings,Oh yeah, and right when I'm sixty
four? Will you still love Mewhen I'm sixty four? There's a Broadway
show Pippin, and there's a songin there that Granny from the Beverly Hill
(03:19):
Billings Yeah saying sayings I'm sorry,Ryan, Yes, thank you, Joe
um And and she she died afteropening in that show. Several months after
um And uh, and actually wonthe Tony for Best Supporting Actors. But
(03:46):
she had already she had already passed. What what is it about love that
that makes it so we can liveto be one hundred or two or as
I've said for years on this show, I want to be one hundred and
eighteen. But I have several caveats. I want to know that I'm Mark.
I want to be able to moveunder my own power. And I
(04:10):
think that's in the Cagnassy well.Life is love. Life and love are
synonymous, you know. It's sortof like life is like a little seed
that has a shell around it,and it can be in the pyramids for
(04:31):
five thousand years and all the energyof the universe is within that shell,
but it can't do anything until loveactivates. Love in the way of water
and sunlight and so and once theshell is cracked and it's activated, it
becomes life. And life itself hasto keep moving if you if you stop
(04:59):
life from moving, it dies.So life and life love are They're like
a sperm and the ovum. Onedoes not live without the other. And
so it's this essence of our verybeing that when somebody says to you,
I love you and they mean it. Your soul says, oh, I
(05:24):
know what that is? Do youhave to be religious to know? No?
Well, you know some core ofyourself is religious, but it doesn't
know it yet. Sometimes are youreligious or spiritual? Oh? Share?
My parents are medical missionaries in India. And to me, Jesus has been
(05:49):
a friend what a friend didn't have, what a friend happened? And Jesus
has been a song that has gonethrough my life. But you know it's
that doesn't mean that everybody has tohave the same perspective. In fact,
they can't. The only person thatcan be me is me, and so
(06:12):
everybody has their their own spirituality,their own religious thoughts. Well, I
think what we're doing right now,those of us were trying to find answer
questions like that, are reaching forour true humanity. I think that when
when the Good Lord created us,he gave us dominance, and he gave
(06:40):
us dominion over the earth, andwe, in our arrogance, thought that
it was dominance. And that's notDominions says you take care of things.
Dominance says you can do anything hewants to because you have free will and
you know you and fulfill your owndesires to book with what are we screwing
(07:05):
up there? We've we've done sucha great job that, UM, it's
hard for people to even begin tounderstand that. UM, I want to
I want to backtrack just a littlebit. You you went to medical school
(07:27):
during World War two, and Iguess you had an epiphany because you were
you know, we were we werein a war and the idea was to
go in and cut out or destroythe aim. Yeah, and you use
that analogy in the book, andthat's how you develop your holistic book,
(07:48):
right, because I you know,what I was taught was that disease was
our enemy and pain was our enemy, and so our job was to help
people so they didn't have diseases,that they didn't have pain in the meantime.
(08:09):
What we did and when I wasin medical school and I learned and
did it very well, we weretaught and what was being practiced at that
time was what was called twilight's sleepwhen a woman was in having a baby.
(08:33):
So we necesitized the woman so shecould not use any of her power,
and then we as physicians used forcepsto deliver the baby. And unfortunately,
we're still using that same language whenwe talk about birthing a baby.
(08:58):
We still talk. It's still hardfor me to not say when I delivered
this patient. Again, I didn'tdeliver that patient. You know, maybe
if I was using force ups,I did. But women birth babies.
We have so taken away the powerof our very essence that we have let
(09:22):
room women know that they can't birtha baby without being delivered. We deliver
pizza, we deliver a speeches.We don't deliver babies. Doctor Gladys McCarry
is our guest. She's the authorof the Well of Life, a one
hundred and two year old Doctor's sixSecrets to help and Happiness at every age.
(09:46):
When we come back, we're goingto talk more with doctor Gladdys about
living life to its forks. I'mMark Allen. Along with being sane,
their Way don't go away. Morecoming up. Late Night Health is proud
of our partnership with the EBC,the Evolutionary Business Council. Check them out
(10:07):
at eb council dot com. You'relistening to Late Night Health with Mark Allen.
The show continues in a moment.Recently, I met Jacqueline from Bright
here in Los Angeles. She gaveme a hearing exam and then showed me
how to hear again with the newSignya Pure series hearing aids, and she
(10:30):
can give you your life back toI hear birds chirping, birds cooing,
and even my wife. They easilyconnect to my smartphone. The hearing aids
are amazing and with the charge andgo, I don't have to fiddle with
batteries and here all day long.Not hearing is frustrating for you and your
family. I know you don't havea problem, but trust me. Call
(10:52):
bright here now for a free hearingexam a one hundred and twenty five dollar
value yours free just for making anappoint But now there are offices throughout the
Los Angeles area. Call bright herenow at three two three four two four
seventy one hundred. That's three twothree four two four seventy one hundred for
a free hearing exam. There's noobligation. Call now three two three four
(11:15):
two four seventy one hundred or visitthem on the web at brighthere dot com.
If you're listening to Late Night Healthright now, you're part of the
growing target of baby boomers. Wereserving Hi. I'm Daryl Wayne, producer
of Late Night Health inviting you tojoin the Late Night Health family. If
you have any business targeting the growingboomer market, Late Night Health is the
ideal advertising vehicle for you. Fromvitamins to insurance, alternative health, the
(11:39):
western style medicine, Late Night Healthcaters to the growing population of those over
forty years old. This vibrant demographichas expendable income to fight aging, purchase
travel, take care of aging parents, or just have fun. Find out
about the advertising opportunities with Late NightHealth. Call us at eight O five
three nine one zero three zero eightthat's eighth five three nine one O three
(12:01):
o eight, or email us atinfo at late nighthealth dot com. That's
info at late nighthealth dot com.Join Late Night Health as we empower people
to take charge of their own healthcare. Call now at eight O five three
nine one zero three zero eight.That's eight oh five three nine one three
o eight. Sometimes it's not whyyou say, it's how you say it.
(12:22):
Words are a critical aspect of success. How you get your point across
as a crucial part of what makesanything sell. So do it write and
hire a writer, whether it's articles, blog posts, technical writings, website
content, product descriptions or ghostwriting.Anything for a novel to a non fiction
book about your navel. Contact SurvetteHassan if you want it to sell,
(12:43):
write it right. Email Survette atSurvette at Survette Hassan dot com. It's
time to tackle a tough topic,one that affects us all. We're talking
about sexism in the workplace. Theaward winning Identifying the Elephant in the Room
series is back and ready to tacklesome complicated communications issues again. This spring,
(13:05):
we're focusing on critical communication strategies inthe face of sexism. Join us
as we hear from professionals in thenatural products industry who have valuable career lessons
to share and real world experience todiscuss from all sides of the elephant.
It's time to have an honest andopen conversation about the impact of sexism in
(13:26):
the workplace and how we can makeit better for everyone. Identifying the Elephant
in the Room series starts March sixteenth. Register today at nisibox dot dfars dot
com. That's I ni cibox dotv fai RS dot com and join the
(13:46):
conversation to be part of the solution. Late Night Health continues. I'm Mark
Allen along with the instane Daryl Wayneand join us at late nighthealth dot com.
There will be a pretty picture ofdoctor Honest McGarry on our website as
Loan's picture of the cover of ourbook, and the book is called The
(14:07):
Well of Life one hundred and twoyear old Doctors. Six Secrets to help
happiness at every age. Can Iask you a couple of personal questions?
Sure? Um, there are peoplewho lived to be you know, one
hundred and fifteen, one hundred andtwenty. They smoked three or four packs
of cigarettes a day, They drinka half a bottle of whiskey and they're
(14:33):
still They're still kicking. Um,do you do anything like that? You
have an a cave smoke or havea block every night. I don't like
them, so I don't do them. I I have I feel that we
(14:54):
have. We each one of ushave a purpose. We're here for a
reason this time on the earth,and for some reason, I'm still here
and I've still got work to do, so I'm going to keep on doing
it. It has nothing to dowith specific things that I can do which
(15:16):
other people may not be able todo. And if I said that,
that's what was keeping me alive,I would be kidding myself. Would you
say that it's more important to havea very positive love attitude or you know
(15:39):
somebody who has no love but worksout every day, doesn't eat red meat,
follows all the rules. Who forme? It's for me, it's
essential. But I can't tell say. I can't say that it's essential for
another person. But I think itis. See. I think that the
(16:00):
reasons we're having this terrible shooting,young men shooting each other and that kind
of thing, is because they watchTV and they have a hero and the
hero dies, but the next daythe hero is alive. But the next
day he dies, but the nextday he is alive. I mean they
(16:21):
if they have not experienced the painand suffering that goes with death of someone
or something that you love, howdo they know about death? So they
may be just going moving through lifethinking, well, you know, they'll
(16:44):
be back, and then they shootsomebody, and then they shoot themselves and
they don't know they Again, it'slikely talked about what experiencing love is,
but if you have experience instant maybea dog. So here's my theory.
I think that instead of putting gunsin a teacher's hand. We put guardian
(17:10):
dogs in classrooms. You know,if we had a dog in a classroom,
that was first of all, youstart a whole new profession. You
have to have hypoalergenic dogs, youhave to have dogs that are trained,
you have to have a trainer,the trainer, you have to have the
teachers trained, you have to havethe parents. It starts a whole new
(17:33):
profession. And I think that possiblywe could answer this question. I've been
saying this and nobody, you know, I think there's somebody out there who
really knows how we could put dogsin the classroom. And if that person's
out there listening, I'd love tohave that happen at least someplace in this
(17:59):
I think. I think that's agreat idea. Of the shootings that are
going on, it seems that it'sit's almost weakly. We hear about a
tragedy pinful, it's yeah, yeah, but these would be guardian dogs.
If you have a dog in aclassroom, that dog knows if child is
sad, or if the child doesn'twant to be near a dog or is
(18:22):
afraid of them, the dog won'tgo near that person until the child reaches
out for the dog, and thentheir friends. And then you have somebody.
If there's a child who has notexperienced love in their life and they
go into a classroom and there's adog there, they start experiencing love.
(18:44):
I you know, it makes senseto me, it really does. You
just mentioned that everybody has a purpose. I mean there are billions of people
on this earth. Does everybody havea specific purpose? Absolutely, They're here
at this time for whatever purpose theycould find it within their soul and that
(19:10):
that's there. You you've been involvedand created a number of holistic or integrative
health programs. You your your joiningis as a medical doctor an MD,
(19:32):
but you you have a more integrativeapproach so that you might use you You
mentioned in the book of bringing acupunctureto a hospital. Today everybody knows anc
Yeah, yeah, do you wantto know that story? Sure. My
(19:55):
husband and I were setting up newsletterthat was called Pathway his Health. This
was in fifties, and one daywe got a letter from a mailman in
Maine who said that he had gottenour Pathways to Health and it really helped
him because he had a source roatAnd we were talking about using a castrol
(20:18):
pack on the throat to help asource road. But the problem was that
for three months he'd had a badankle and couldn't walk, so he hadn't
been able to use his route,so he hadn't lost his But when he
put the castrol pack on his neck, his ankle cleared up, and we
(20:41):
looked at each other and we said, how does that happen? You know,
we were a lepathic physicians, andwe made no sense. So the
next news letter that went out wewrote that up and a position from it
answered and said, if you guysknew anything about acupuncture, you wouldn't know
(21:06):
that the meridian starts up by theant, comes all the way down to
the toe, and in the processof leasing the plug at the deck,
it released the one at the ankle. And we said, no, what's
this stuff called ancupuncture? So webegan writing to people. A Felix band
(21:30):
had written five books on acupuncture inEngland, and people were talking writing about
it in Germany and and so wehad the first acupuncture symposium in Stanford nineteen
seventy three. Nixon had just goneto China and seen an appendectomy done by
(21:56):
acupuncture, and his physician, PaulDudley Hight quite came to the symposium and
presented what they knew, and wehad eight hundred We had three one hundred
positions who came to that symposium andit got started. Then they began,
(22:17):
you know. Then we had UMpeople who were beginning to learn about acupuncture
and we taught you know it justit was like a wave of I'm going
to personally thank you because I've hadseveral treatment acupunct treatment UM over the years.
(22:41):
UM and it works. Yeah,it's very In fact, we only
have a moment or so left.Quick. My last thought, are you
happy? Oh, I'm I'm delighted. First of all, I'm happy to
see you. Oh, well,thank you. Will you come back sometime?
(23:04):
Yes, I would love to talkmore about this. Uh. This
is the book is terrific. It'sit's by The book is called The Well
of Life by Gladys mcgaine, motherof Holistic Medicine, and she's one hundred
and two years old and going strong, and we're gonna have her back very
(23:29):
soon. I'm gonna make sure thatwe do that sometime in maybe late June
or early July. Where are you. I'm in California. We're almost neighbors,
all right, I'm just outside ofLos Angeles. Okay, hold on,
doctor Gladys. I'm Mark Allen alongwith the insane Darrel Wayne Darrel is
(23:49):
always Thank you, great show today, my pleasure, and thank you at
Hope for listening. We appreciate thatwe uh invite you to visit this at
late nighthelp dot com. Late nighthelp dot com. Have a good week.
Everybody, have a great week.Most importantly, have a healthy week.
(24:11):
We'll see you next count eye.For now,
Late Night Health continues to I'm MarkAllen along with being stayed there a way
and join us at late Night healthdot com. There will be a pretty
picture of doctor Glannis McGarry on ourwebsite as Loan's picture of the cover of
her book. And the book iscalled The Well of Life, one hundred
and two year old Doctors Six Secretsto help Happiness at every age. You
(00:33):
know, I lived a long timeand did all kinds of wonderful things and
which I you know, I havea body that's I am taking care of
and a mind that I'm time totrying to keep clear. And that's my
job right now because there a multitudeof things that I can't do now that
(00:57):
I used to do with ease.But you know, so that's not my
job right now. And you're stillworking, you're still consulting as a doctor.
Well, there's still people who havequestions and I maybe have an answer
to work with them. So yes, I was. I was reading in
(01:22):
the book, and I think theoverwhelming see is love? Oh absolutely,
Where does love come from? Youknow? A friend of mine spent about
when we were working on this book, at least two hours one day trying
(01:45):
to find that very question, andwe said, you know, they've written
songs about paint, things have beenpainted, everything has been described in every
which way, and you know,the answer we came up with was that
if a person has not experienced love, there's no way of explaining it to
(02:09):
them that they would understand, thesame as if you have a person who
was born blind and you try toexplain the color green to them. If
they've never experienced it, how dothey know. So it's that essence of
(02:32):
our very life, essence that islove. And if we have experienced it
and lost it and know what it'sabout, and gone through the process of
living our lives and know what loveis, nobody needs to really tell us
(02:58):
except they use the word we knowwhat we're talking about. I'm thinking of
number of songs, the Beatings,Oh yeah, and right when I'm sixty
four? Will you still love Mewhen I'm sixty four? There's a Broadway
show Pippin, and there's a songin there that Granny from the Beverly Hill
(03:19):
Billings Yeah saying sayings I'm sorry,Ryan, Yes, thank you, Joe
um And and she she died afteropening in that show. Several months after
um And uh, and actually wonthe Tony for Best Supporting Actors. But
(03:46):
she had already she had already passed. What what is it about love that
that makes it so we can liveto be one hundred or two or as
I've said for years on this show, I want to be one hundred and
eighteen. But I have several caveats. I want to know that I'm Mark.
I want to be able to moveunder my own power. And I
(04:10):
think that's in the Cagnassy well.Life is love. Life and love are
synonymous, you know. It's sortof like life is like a little seed
that has a shell around it,and it can be in the pyramids for
(04:31):
five thousand years and all the energyof the universe is within that shell,
but it can't do anything until loveactivates. Love in the way of water
and sunlight and so and once theshell is cracked and it's activated, it
becomes life. And life itself hasto keep moving if you if you stop
(04:59):
life from moving, it dies.So life and life love are They're like
a sperm and the ovum. Onedoes not live without the other. And
so it's this essence of our verybeing that when somebody says to you,
I love you and they mean it. Your soul says, oh, I
(05:24):
know what that is? Do youhave to be religious to know? No?
Well, you know some core ofyourself is religious, but it doesn't
know it yet. Sometimes are youreligious or spiritual? Oh? Share?
My parents are medical missionaries in India. And to me, Jesus has been
(05:49):
a friend what a friend didn't have, what a friend happened? And Jesus
has been a song that has gonethrough my life. But you know it's
that doesn't mean that everybody has tohave the same perspective. In fact,
they can't. The only person thatcan be me is me, and so
(06:12):
everybody has their their own spirituality,their own religious thoughts. Well, I
think what we're doing right now,those of us were trying to find answer
questions like that, are reaching forour true humanity. I think that when
when the Good Lord created us,he gave us dominance, and he gave
(06:40):
us dominion over the earth, andwe, in our arrogance, thought that
it was dominance. And that's notDominions says you take care of things.
Dominance says you can do anything hewants to because you have free will and
you know you and fulfill your owndesires to book with what are we screwing
(07:05):
up there? We've we've done sucha great job that, UM, it's
hard for people to even begin tounderstand that. UM, I want to
I want to backtrack just a littlebit. You you went to medical school
(07:27):
during World War two, and Iguess you had an epiphany because you were
you know, we were we werein a war and the idea was to
go in and cut out or destroythe aim. Yeah, and you use
that analogy in the book, andthat's how you develop your holistic book,
(07:48):
right, because I you know,what I was taught was that disease was
our enemy and pain was our enemy, and so our job was to help
people so they didn't have diseases,that they didn't have pain in the meantime.
(08:09):
What we did and when I wasin medical school and I learned and
did it very well, we weretaught and what was being practiced at that
time was what was called twilight's sleepwhen a woman was in having a baby.
(08:33):
So we necesitized the woman so shecould not use any of her power,
and then we as physicians used forcepsto deliver the baby. And unfortunately,
we're still using that same language whenwe talk about birthing a baby.
(08:58):
We still talk. It's still hardfor me to not say when I delivered
this patient. Again, I didn'tdeliver that patient. You know, maybe
if I was using force ups,I did. But women birth babies.
We have so taken away the powerof our very essence that we have let
(09:22):
room women know that they can't birtha baby without being delivered. We deliver
pizza, we deliver a speeches.We don't deliver babies. Doctor Gladys McCarry
is our guest. She's the authorof the Well of Life, a one
hundred and two year old Doctor's sixSecrets to help and Happiness at every age.
(09:46):
When we come back, we're goingto talk more with doctor Gladdys about
living life to its forks. I'mMark Allen. Along with being sane,
their Way don't go away. Morecoming up. Late Night Health is proud
of our partnership with the EBC,the Evolutionary Business Council. Check them out
(10:07):
at eb council dot com. You'relistening to Late Night Health with Mark Allen.
The show continues in a moment.Recently, I met Jacqueline from Bright
here in Los Angeles. She gaveme a hearing exam and then showed me
how to hear again with the newSignya Pure series hearing aids, and she
(10:30):
can give you your life back toI hear birds chirping, birds cooing,
and even my wife. They easilyconnect to my smartphone. The hearing aids
are amazing and with the charge andgo, I don't have to fiddle with
batteries and here all day long.Not hearing is frustrating for you and your
family. I know you don't havea problem, but trust me. Call
(10:52):
bright here now for a free hearingexam a one hundred and twenty five dollar
value yours free just for making anappoint But now there are offices throughout the
Los Angeles area. Call bright herenow at three two three four two four
seventy one hundred. That's three twothree four two four seventy one hundred for
a free hearing exam. There's noobligation. Call now three two three four
(11:15):
two four seventy one hundred or visitthem on the web at brighthere dot com.
If you're listening to Late Night Healthright now, you're part of the
growing target of baby boomers. Wereserving Hi. I'm Daryl Wayne, producer
of Late Night Health inviting you tojoin the Late Night Health family. If
you have any business targeting the growingboomer market, Late Night Health is the
ideal advertising vehicle for you. Fromvitamins to insurance, alternative health, the
(11:39):
western style medicine, Late Night Healthcaters to the growing population of those over
forty years old. This vibrant demographichas expendable income to fight aging, purchase
travel, take care of aging parents, or just have fun. Find out
about the advertising opportunities with Late NightHealth. Call us at eight O five
three nine one zero three zero eightthat's eighth five three nine one O three
(12:01):
o eight, or email us atinfo at late nighthealth dot com. That's
info at late nighthealth dot com.Join Late Night Health as we empower people
to take charge of their own healthcare. Call now at eight O five three
nine one zero three zero eight.That's eight oh five three nine one three
o eight. Sometimes it's not whyyou say, it's how you say it.
(12:22):
Words are a critical aspect of success. How you get your point across
as a crucial part of what makesanything sell. So do it write and
hire a writer, whether it's articles, blog posts, technical writings, website
content, product descriptions or ghostwriting.Anything for a novel to a non fiction
book about your navel. Contact SurvetteHassan if you want it to sell,
(12:43):
write it right. Email Survette atSurvette at Survette Hassan dot com. It's
time to tackle a tough topic,one that affects us all. We're talking
about sexism in the workplace. Theaward winning Identifying the Elephant in the Room
series is back and ready to tacklesome complicated communications issues again. This spring,
(13:05):
we're focusing on critical communication strategies inthe face of sexism. Join us
as we hear from professionals in thenatural products industry who have valuable career lessons
to share and real world experience todiscuss from all sides of the elephant.
It's time to have an honest andopen conversation about the impact of sexism in
(13:26):
the workplace and how we can makeit better for everyone. Identifying the Elephant
in the Room series starts March sixteenth. Register today at nisibox dot dfars dot
com. That's I ni cibox dotv fai RS dot com and join the
(13:46):
conversation to be part of the solution. Late Night Health continues. I'm Mark
Allen along with the instane Daryl Wayneand join us at late nighthealth dot com.
There will be a pretty picture ofdoctor Honest McGarry on our website as
Loan's picture of the cover of ourbook, and the book is called The
(14:07):
Well of Life one hundred and twoyear old Doctors. Six Secrets to help
happiness at every age. Can Iask you a couple of personal questions?
Sure? Um, there are peoplewho lived to be you know, one
hundred and fifteen, one hundred andtwenty. They smoked three or four packs
of cigarettes a day, They drinka half a bottle of whiskey and they're
(14:33):
still They're still kicking. Um,do you do anything like that? You
have an a cave smoke or havea block every night. I don't like
them, so I don't do them. I I have I feel that we
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have. We each one of ushave a purpose. We're here for a
reason this time on the earth,and for some reason, I'm still here
and I've still got work to do, so I'm going to keep on doing
it. It has nothing to dowith specific things that I can do which
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other people may not be able todo. And if I said that,
that's what was keeping me alive,I would be kidding myself. Would you
say that it's more important to havea very positive love attitude or you know
(15:39):
somebody who has no love but worksout every day, doesn't eat red meat,
follows all the rules. Who forme? It's for me, it's
essential. But I can't tell say. I can't say that it's essential for
another person. But I think itis. See. I think that the
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reasons we're having this terrible shooting,young men shooting each other and that kind
of thing, is because they watchTV and they have a hero and the
hero dies, but the next daythe hero is alive. But the next
day he dies, but the nextday he is alive. I mean they
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if they have not experienced the painand suffering that goes with death of someone
or something that you love, howdo they know about death? So they
may be just going moving through lifethinking, well, you know, they'll
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be back, and then they shootsomebody, and then they shoot themselves and
they don't know they Again, it'slikely talked about what experiencing love is,
but if you have experience instant maybea dog. So here's my theory.
I think that instead of putting gunsin a teacher's hand. We put guardian
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dogs in classrooms. You know,if we had a dog in a classroom,
that was first of all, youstart a whole new profession. You
have to have hypoalergenic dogs, youhave to have dogs that are trained,
you have to have a trainer,the trainer, you have to have the
teachers trained, you have to havethe parents. It starts a whole new
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profession. And I think that possiblywe could answer this question. I've been
saying this and nobody, you know, I think there's somebody out there who
really knows how we could put dogsin the classroom. And if that person's
out there listening, I'd love tohave that happen at least someplace in this
(17:59):
I think. I think that's agreat idea. Of the shootings that are
going on, it seems that it'sit's almost weakly. We hear about a
tragedy pinful, it's yeah, yeah, but these would be guardian dogs.
If you have a dog in aclassroom, that dog knows if child is
sad, or if the child doesn'twant to be near a dog or is
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afraid of them, the dog won'tgo near that person until the child reaches
out for the dog, and thentheir friends. And then you have somebody.
If there's a child who has notexperienced love in their life and they
go into a classroom and there's adog there, they start experiencing love.
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I you know, it makes senseto me, it really does. You
just mentioned that everybody has a purpose. I mean there are billions of people
on this earth. Does everybody havea specific purpose? Absolutely, They're here
at this time for whatever purpose theycould find it within their soul and that
(19:10):
that's there. You you've been involvedand created a number of holistic or integrative
health programs. You your your joiningis as a medical doctor an MD,
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but you you have a more integrativeapproach so that you might use you You
mentioned in the book of bringing acupunctureto a hospital. Today everybody knows anc
Yeah, yeah, do you wantto know that story? Sure. My
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husband and I were setting up newsletterthat was called Pathway his Health. This
was in fifties, and one daywe got a letter from a mailman in
Maine who said that he had gottenour Pathways to Health and it really helped
him because he had a source roatAnd we were talking about using a castrol
(20:18):
pack on the throat to help asource road. But the problem was that
for three months he'd had a badankle and couldn't walk, so he hadn't
been able to use his route,so he hadn't lost his But when he
put the castrol pack on his neck, his ankle cleared up, and we
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looked at each other and we said, how does that happen? You know,
we were a lepathic physicians, andwe made no sense. So the
next news letter that went out wewrote that up and a position from it
answered and said, if you guysknew anything about acupuncture, you wouldn't know
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that the meridian starts up by theant, comes all the way down to
the toe, and in the processof leasing the plug at the deck,
it released the one at the ankle. And we said, no, what's
this stuff called ancupuncture? So webegan writing to people. A Felix band
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had written five books on acupuncture inEngland, and people were talking writing about
it in Germany and and so wehad the first acupuncture symposium in Stanford nineteen
seventy three. Nixon had just goneto China and seen an appendectomy done by
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acupuncture, and his physician, PaulDudley Hight quite came to the symposium and
presented what they knew, and wehad eight hundred We had three one hundred
positions who came to that symposium andit got started. Then they began,
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you know. Then we had UMpeople who were beginning to learn about acupuncture
and we taught you know it justit was like a wave of I'm going
to personally thank you because I've hadseveral treatment acupunct treatment UM over the years.
(22:41):
UM and it works. Yeah,it's very In fact, we only
have a moment or so left.Quick. My last thought, are you
happy? Oh, I'm I'm delighted. First of all, I'm happy to
see you. Oh, well,thank you. Will you come back sometime?
(23:04):
Yes, I would love to talkmore about this. Uh. This
is the book is terrific. It'sit's by The book is called The Well
of Life by Gladys mcgaine, motherof Holistic Medicine, and she's one hundred
and two years old and going strong, and we're gonna have her back very
(23:29):
soon. I'm gonna make sure thatwe do that sometime in maybe late June
or early July. Where are you. I'm in California. We're almost neighbors,
all right, I'm just outside ofLos Angeles. Okay, hold on,
doctor Gladys. I'm Mark Allen alongwith the insane Darrel Wayne Darrel is
(23:49):
always Thank you, great show today, my pleasure, and thank you at
Hope for listening. We appreciate thatwe uh invite you to visit this at
late nighthelp dot com. Late nighthelp dot com. Have a good week.
Everybody, have a great week.Most importantly, have a healthy week.
(24:11):
We'll see you next count eye.For now,
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