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That's right, beautiful chump City, Welcome everybody the Late Night
with Jermys left world Wide and with the beautiful Kelly Holland.
But before I let Kelly Holland out of the queue,
I just want to say shout out to everybody just
hanging in there.
Speaker 8 (01:44):
I know it's a lot of.
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News going on, y'all, hang on man, I see something
like this again, that's right to get interesting, and you
guys know what I'm talking about if I'm going deep
into it. But anyway, but I hope you guys having
a great week. It is Thursday, around the corner from
the weekend. Man home, you guys making plans because the
weather was awesome here today in Baltimore. He had our
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eighty one but a little bit of hearmid, that's right,
And we've been handing a lot this year that we're
gonna be experiencing a lot of windstorms and some stuff
we haven't really seen too much of in a while.
Hopefully it's not in Maryland, but for those of you
that's you know, those regions, you know, let's be careful.
Check out your insurance policies, make sure you cover, get
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that flood insurance, whatever you gotta do, y'all, just protect
yourself because you know things are kind of different right
now and you may have to start over if it
hits you. So that's my words of encouragion. Anyway, Well,
tonight tonight on the show, we have a lady you
guys probably heard on the show before that shure she
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was on this show or made the lead millions. Her
name is Wanda Joel. She's a groundbreaking figuring in the
US military aviation at National It's some trail blazer, that's right,
one of our historical sheieans she was the first African
American women to permanent assigned to the flight as a
flight attendant on Air Force one. I believe she's with
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a couple of presidents too, that's right, and she's here
to talk all about it. Before we let her out
to cue, let me talk to Kelly, and she was
going on her world.
Speaker 8 (03:23):
What's up, Kelly Holland, what's going on in your world?
What's hey?
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Hey, Hey Batman, Hey Baltimore, what's up world?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
How is everybody?
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Every birdy?
Speaker 5 (03:38):
We good.
Speaker 8 (03:39):
We get Kelly Holland the family.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Family as well. We're doing good.
Speaker 9 (03:46):
That thing you said you didn't want to talk about
what you're talking about.
Speaker 8 (03:49):
Friend, We're gonna hit you laid offline.
Speaker 9 (03:55):
Oh wow, that's deep. We talk about almost anything right here.
Speaker 7 (04:00):
Yeah, we can't anymore. They got for they got forms
you gotta sign. But anyway, for all that said, Yeah,
for all that said, just tune in the YouTube ship
pop up in your queue. Yeah, things gonna be kind
of different. You know, one thing that I do want
to touch a point I want to touch on this.
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I was kind of throwing back a little bit about
the direction that that that the US was going in
with with the EV's. You know, I thought that was
like gonna be a really strong I know, there's a
lot of the US automakers are coming out with products.
I heard your pants about to or Toyota is about
to former partnership with a company in China who are
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currently have a whole fleet of EV's that do really well.
And I was kind of excited because, you know, my
son had owned one and he you know, actually he's
on his third one, and but he still buys gas
gas Foster Fool cars for some reason. But I guess,
I don't know, I guess he still had that love
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that he has. He has to go to the gas stage.
You me, some interesting people at the gas station to.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
Very way.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
So I was just kind of thrown back, how you know,
it looks like we kind of on the US is
kind of on the fence with the EV world and
the fossil fuel, you know, and I just don't get it,
you know, because especially because they said the Earth is
kind of having some some you know, it's in trouble
right now. I need some help, you know, And it's
like I just don't get it. You know, they're getting
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rid of a lot of stuff that we really need,
you know. I mean I was kind of looking forward
to getting the windmill.
Speaker 8 (05:37):
In my yard.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
As soon as you can, because.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
I don't think you can get one now. I mean
think you can't even get solar panels in some communities.
I know we can't, but I wanted to get a
little windmill. Yeah, yeah, because because I think the farms
are not that far from us. Telling know, the solar
farms are not there far from then Woodstock, but the
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windmill farms on the eastern shore, and you can pipe
pipe it in, you know, to your system.
Speaker 9 (06:09):
Yeah right, yeah, I know anybody has a problem with
doing something positive that that that needs to be obsessed.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
Okay, I guess it depends who's calling the shots. But yes,
it's interesting because the earth is really in trouble right now,
and I just thought that should have been a direction
we really should have leaned on, you know. But you know,
I'm just a podcast. I don't know anything. I'm just
a batman. I'm just a proving All right, were you
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ready to talk to your guests?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
You ready?
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Absolutely?
Speaker 8 (06:46):
You know we can talk about stuff all day, we can.
What's up?
Speaker 7 (06:50):
What's up, sister Joel, Welcome to Late Night. How are
you tonight?
Speaker 10 (06:56):
I'm fine.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
How are you all doing? It's right? Thank you for
having me back. No time.
Speaker 7 (07:06):
Yeah, well look, I'm just saying hello. I'm turning the
keys over to Kelly. So you guys have a gree show.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Amen.
Speaker 9 (07:15):
Amen, thank you for joining us this evening. It is
such a treat to have you back. Could you let
our listeners know who you are and what it is
that you do.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Oh yes, ma'am.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
I'm retired Senior massa Sar doot Wander Joel, and I
made history as being the first African American woman permanently
hired on Air Force one who serves the presidents of
the United States, and I end up flying four presidents
during my time and retired with five thousand flying hours.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Amen. Amen.
Speaker 9 (07:48):
So wait a minute, Yeah, five thousand hours you spent
in the air.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Like, what is that equick to.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Yes?
Speaker 10 (07:58):
But yeah, that's a lot of.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
You calculated per month.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
I don't know how you break it down, but I
spent most of my career in the air.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I understand.
Speaker 9 (08:10):
Outside of being in that area of work. I mean,
what an amazing job to get. How could you come
upon such an opportunity.
Speaker 10 (08:21):
Yeah, well it is.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
You do have to be in the military. The Air
Force Service president on Air Force Women is part of
part of our aircraft is part of the Air Force.
And it's quite a few things you have to do
to get selected. It's not just to pick you up
just because you're in the military. You have to apply
for it like any other position, and they do quite
a bit of background checks, reviewing your records and and
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seeing how you are living and of all that good
stuff because you have to have a get a high clearance.
So it took me about about good year and a
half to find finalize everything, and they permanently hired me
when I came back from overseas. I was overseas and
a lot of people that got selected during my time
cross train. We were in different career fields within the
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military and you applied for it. They call it a
special duty assignment. Andrew's Air Force Base in Maryland.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
That was wonderful.
Speaker 9 (09:17):
You know, what does it mean when you're leaving at
such a high level. Was that intense pressure and scrutiny.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Oh goodness, it's you. Like I said, they do a
background check. So once you get accepted and get that clearance,
you want to keep it for one you know, because
and then once you get higher on the crew, a
lot of people you have to wait for opening because
once a lot of flight attendants prior to me, they
just retired out of there. You know, they might have
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got hired for maybe ten years in or so I
end up staying for twenty four years totally on Air
Force one. Yeah, so that is something that I always
had a dream of doing, flying as a little girl.
That's how my story started, you know, childhood dream to
be a flight attendant. And of course I came across
a lot of different obstacles and barriers along the way
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with downsides, you know, the airlines and different things like that,
and the Lord put in my heart to see what
the Air Force had to offer, and not knowing they
had flight attendants, but I took that leap of faith
and joined the military connected its air force must have
some type airplanes. And so the Air Force set me
overseas where I was working at a terminal doing sort
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of like a ticket agent kind of job. And that's
when I started seeing these nice blue and white planes
landing and I'm like, okay, they look like they are
military affiliated, and went on our base and that's how
my career all started. Found out that it was a,
like I said, a special duty assignment at Andrews. And
I found out what I had to do to apply
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for the job and about it. Like I said, a
year and a half later, I got the phone call,
left England, went to Indiana for about a year and
they hired me. From there, I went to Andrews and
started with the vice president. We start, You don't start
right away on airport airport the.
Speaker 10 (11:06):
Vice president called air force too.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
So I started and humbled myself and proved myself.
Speaker 10 (11:11):
Still have to prove yourself.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
You still have to you know, audio steps.
Speaker 10 (11:15):
And then and then I found out, okay, I'm here,
so how do.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
I get to the big plane exactly?
Speaker 9 (11:21):
And you know, I was curious about that, you know,
because being in the air and aviation and then also
doing it in the military branch, it kind of seems
from the outside looking in, of course, that it would
be like more of a male dominated type of job
or career choice.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So are you wearing?
Speaker 9 (11:43):
I'm sure they have secret agents on the plane, but
I'm wondering, like are you packing?
Speaker 5 (11:48):
You?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Are you while you're in the air.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
But you know what, you hit the nail on the
head because that was actually one of my challenges because
it was the predominately male career field men men service
the president back in the day. And when I did start,
it was I would say a total maybe.
Speaker 10 (12:12):
Four or five women total.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
And I know, I mean history is the first African
American woman, but it was a predominantly male career. So
I mean I flew and worked with some men that
weren't even used to working side by side with women
in the military, let alone to fly with them. So
but no, we don't pack. But like to answer your question,
we do have a we have Air Force cops as
well as Secret Service. Of course they take care of
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the president, but to take care of the airplane and
guard and all that protection, all that high level security,
we have Air Force Air Force police officers also that
travel with us and we do our job, they do
their job. So it's quite a few crew members. I
would stay up to maybe thirty crew memers different positions.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Well, and they are deemed necessary, of course they must be.
What was one of the.
Speaker 9 (12:57):
Most you know, news affiliated type of article we would
have seen that maybe you you participated in some type
of major event with Air Force one.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Was there ever an experience like that?
Speaker 10 (13:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (13:15):
You could probably on the History Channel. I know they
sent a few of us to New York to interview
us about being with President Bush forty one forty three.
I said, I'm sorry during nine eleven. Okay, wow, so
I was on board?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yes, yeah, yes, like what's something we know? He's a girl.
Speaker 10 (13:39):
Oh, everybody makes it. Everybody can relate to that.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
When that happened. I got that right, was the airfly
and hopefully the only one only plane in the air.
Speaker 9 (13:54):
To right, But it was with President Bush. They called
him or they made that movie about and it was
just yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Did you did you serve on his plane? Air Force one?
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (14:12):
Yes, I was aboard on Air Force one during that time.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Wow wow wow.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Yeah wow yeah exactly.
Speaker 10 (14:24):
Prayer, you know all that.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Good stuff you have to be ready for you never know,
you just never know.
Speaker 10 (14:29):
You have to be prayed up, ready to go.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Amazing.
Speaker 10 (14:34):
But I had a chance.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
To on that like particular flight to embrace the President,
which was really not a memorable moment, but just you know,
kind of emotional just to and God just put in
my spirit just to tell him that, you know, God
is with us, and he's got this airplane, you know,
seeing we were escorted of course with fighter planes and
all that kind of stuff, and felt kind of safe.
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But I still was able to share that you know,
moment with with the president and with everything that was
going on that day. So that was the moment I
never forget.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
How could you?
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Right? Yeah, okay, but I have met I had so
many memorable moments, you know, with twenty four years flying
and four presidents and five thousand dollars, you know.
Speaker 10 (15:20):
We could be on just call for a minute. But yeah,
I have some things. That's nice.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Memorable moment, I mean, you know, bittersweet, but I have
a lot of a lot of different we had. It
was just like a family flying together, the same crew
all the time, and and seeing the world, I mean
and everything and representing it not just the air force
of our country, but just to serve the President and
any of his dignitaries. Not just him, but you know,
he had his guests on board, and anyone that was invited.
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I've even had athletes, actresses, anyone from Hollywood of course,
different centators and congressmen, anyone that was invited. You know,
we they got first class service, just like we stay
the president so amen that people about his staff as well.
So yeah, we could probably have about if you count
the crew members, sometimes up to probably seventy five or
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more on one particular flight.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
So wow, it takes a lot.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Yeah, it is. It's a big operation, and it takes
a lot to get off back ground and to go,
you know to different countries and different cities, but especially
if you're leaving to go overseas. You know, there's a
lot of preparation and prepping food and all of our
food on Air Force one and shopped and cooked by
the flight attendant from scratch. So everything had to be
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done in order, you.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Know, okay, and that makes good sense.
Speaker 9 (16:41):
And you know people have allergies and all type of
special dietary needs and that's amazing. You go out and
get it and you make sure they're comfortable and then
they can have their meals. You know, it was, it was,
it was striking when you came on last year and
he was telling us about this, and I'm glad for
our listeners that may have missed that episode that they
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can hear it today and just understand, we have a
legend on the line, y'all.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
We have a history, groundbreaking woman on the line. And
and not.
Speaker 9 (17:11):
Just as the flight attendant of Air Force one, she's
a master sergeant.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
There we go. How is life after the military?
Speaker 5 (17:29):
You know what, I missed the military life, but it
still paved ways for me to not just benefit from
it as a veteran, but these kind of doors are
opening to share and inspire my story and encourage young people.
That's what I like to do, to hold on to
their dreams if they have desires. That's a little girl
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like me wanted to fly air just a airplane, you know,
but look where I reached, you know, so.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
The biggest airplane, the most important.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Exactly, but the most important, right powerless men.
Speaker 10 (18:01):
In the world exactly.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
So I just I like to encourage just you know,
God ordered my steps and I let them know that
if they just stay faithful and you know, do the
right thing, especially coming up now with all the social
media and stuff they could get involved in or distract,
you know, along the way. They could mess up their
dreams because they had to do a background check.
Speaker 10 (18:21):
And I tell the young.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
People, they went back to my middle school or the
junior high school teachers just to see what kind of
background or life I was living and who I associated with.
So you know, it pays off to.
Speaker 9 (18:35):
Yeah, it's important coming from an educator field in America,
in in Maryland, in Baltimore. Let me just specify my
locality in Baltimore, whether it be the city, which is
significantly worse, or the county which is just as bad.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Kids don't want to learn. They don't want to learn.
Speaker 9 (18:57):
They cry about hard work they can and they're having
trouble with their basic mad skills. And I'm telling them,
I said, listen, this is what you need to get
you the job. I don't know what you think is
after school, but it's called work, and so it could
either be a job or it could be a career.
You decide based on the skills that you want to
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put yourself in the things that you want to invest in.
And it's often that they don't see that perspective and
they're just like, listen, I got an iPhone. I'm gonna
type these numbers in and I'm like, well, show me
the work, let me know you can really do this,
and so like that, that's what I deal with, just
trying to help students just recognize the opportunity of education.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Whereas when we have foreigners come to the school, whether.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
It be.
Speaker 9 (19:50):
Afghanies they speaking or do or they speak in Spanish,
when those kids come to our school, they're disciplined, they're quiet,
they're meek, they're and they're attentive and they want.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
To learn, right, that's that's and that's their culture. Because
you know, there is really the environment and it is
really sad, like you said, and I'm involved in the
school system here in Georgia and they have where I
the schools around where I'm at now, they have a
lot of different not just the colleges, but a lot
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of different health resources that come in and just let
them know the opportunities. And if they don't know, you know,
you got to educate them. You know, they think this
is the little box I got to say in or
I got to live in Georgia for the rest of
my life, or this is just.
Speaker 10 (20:38):
Broaden their horizon. Tell them about it.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
I'm encourse about the military because I couldn't see all
the countries on my own. So I'm seeing around around
the world, I know how many times, not just on
Air Force one. But I encouraged them this is come
in the military, even if they can't afford college right now,
or they not just in afford college right away, but
a lot of.
Speaker 10 (20:57):
Them have figured out what they want to do.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
So you could just do just see the world and
then you could do so many different career fields within
the services. You could take that and put it on
your resume once you figure out, you know later what
you want to really say that knowledge, take that background. Yeah,
there's a lot of pavillion. A lot of them hire
military because they know that the discipline that they could
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depend on them, you know, to be on time and
all that good stuff. So there's a lot of opportunities.
But the same here I feel this generation, you know,
they want to make it big, but they don't want
to work for it like.
Speaker 9 (21:33):
At all, and they just want to wake up one morning.
They have so much money, that's all. It's really sad
that it's really sad that is the common culture right now. Unfortunately,
prayerfully we can keep pushing forward. All the educators, all
people that deal with children, young adults, adult literacy.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Please, let's all just continue to be that village. You know,
things does seem diary sometime.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
What inspired you to become a motivational speaker and then
told me that you speak?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
And I didn't know that.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
I was like she had so many times, I didn't
know she was actually a speaker as well.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I know she's an author, but.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Yeah, basically just of my journey, but because of the
start and my uh my story how I started, you know,
not knowing that I don't make that historical mark, but
if it had, it could it happens for me. I
just won't let any not just a child or young
person and adults that have a dream that they're just
been sitting on that, you know, let them know they
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could still pursue it, you know, and just be intentional
about you what you want to do, because I just
feel like I'm living proof then, you know.
Speaker 10 (22:46):
I just try to encourage people to work hard and
just never.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Give up on their dreams. And my favorite scripture, so
I'm thirty seven four to like yourself and the Lord,
and He'll give you the desires of your heart. Oh
you got to miss your ways under him and trust
him and then show he up bringing to path. You
just got to continue to trust him, you know. If
you feel discovery, sometimes you just got to look up
and pray.
Speaker 10 (23:06):
He'll give you the strength.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
And he always puts somebody from shows favor and he
gives somebody and put somebody in your life to direct
you if you need help. You know, just pray about
all things.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Amen, Amen, I pray for the resources.
Speaker 9 (23:21):
You don't have what you need, pray for it exactly,
but you know what, go ahead.
Speaker 10 (23:31):
Yes, that's what I'm gonna say. When you look, you
know you're praying for something.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
You're like, I need some direction, and if you're praying
about it, and then when you look, it's right there
in front of you.
Speaker 10 (23:39):
You know, God just here.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
And I prayed about even this career.
Speaker 10 (23:43):
So I told the Lord to close.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
The doors along the way if it wasn't meant to be.
And the commercial side of the house at the high school.
That's all I try to do, apply for different commercials,
and those stories are just looking happening. Until one afternoon
I told my parents, I just big, I'm interested in
the military. See what they had to offer. They supported
me all the way, but and I prayed about that too.
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I said, okay, Lord, if it's not meant to be
close that door.
Speaker 10 (24:12):
Exactly, and then we're trying to fight in the case, keep.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
It open, and it's like that, I have something else
for you to see, wager.
Speaker 9 (24:19):
Yes, yes, exactly, plans to keep you in the perfect piece.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
You know.
Speaker 9 (24:25):
I also wanted to speak more to you about Dreams
and Flight. That's your upcoming children's book.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
How far along are.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
You on there, you know what. I believe that's going
to be finishing soon. We did the final edit in
the last couple of weeks, and I think it's going
to be going to publishing soon, so I would look
for that towards the end of summer. I say, maybe early, Paul,
mm hmm.
Speaker 10 (24:49):
And that should be yes, ma'am.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
That tells you my story and breaks everything down and exciting,
memorable trips and all kinds of good stuff in there.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Sounds nice.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
Did you include any pictures from your personal experience?
Speaker 5 (25:04):
I did.
Speaker 10 (25:05):
I wanted to.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
That's why I think it took so long, because I
wanted to per chapter. I wanted to illustrate, you know,
everybody get a visual what I was trying to say.
So that's probably why it took as long as it did,
and I wanted to reach all all ages. So it
is a picture book as well, maybe not for maybe
a kindergarten. I really get it, but I think they
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will understand. You know, this little girl had a dream
and where I ended. So I think, you know, it
was definitely touched middle school and high school. But even
like I said, these kids are so smart nowadays, even
if it is in elementary, I think it will be
at a they'll say, I remember that because I've been
in libraries and the elementary schools and they have quite
a few aviation book sites though we did maybe first
(25:51):
women in aviation pilot first, Yeah, have astronauts. Yeah, so
they can understand. These kids are bright.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
These kids are bright, right, the absolutely are.
Speaker 9 (26:01):
And I just I just think it's wonderful when you
do see them that are encouraged and they have questions
and they're excited about life, and they're excited about the
possibility of what they see on that book happening in
their real life. And so yes, I agree, I completely agree.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
You know, I'm sorry, go ahead, I was bad.
Speaker 10 (26:24):
Did some graduations.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
So a couple of weeks ago, fifth graders and some
of One young lady she introduced me and you talk
articulate that she probably goes straight from fifth grade to
her first year in college. That's why that's smart.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
So a lot of them just need to see what,
like I said, the opportunities that you know, and give
them something to think about.
Speaker 10 (26:46):
And if they just try.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
To keep them on a straight and narrow that's the
biggest thing, you know, make something, make something up their lives.
That's what I want to see a young person just
do well. You know, I hate to see them just
go to their life away and get involved in you know,
they might make mistakes.
Speaker 10 (27:02):
Along the way.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
I'm not saying everybody's gonna be perfect, but let them
know that they could what they say, get back up again.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Get back up again.
Speaker 9 (27:14):
Absolutely, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
That's one of those one of those worship songs just.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
In right, I have to have every now and then
I blast a few of his songs in.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
My house and have a concert with him in Yolanda.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
They know the battle is.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Not yours, Automo. Okay. That's the ones that that you
need every day, every to get you.
Speaker 10 (27:45):
Life be like for everybody.
Speaker 9 (27:46):
And that's what I was saying. Pull you out of
that mental space and bring you closer to God. If
you're feeling overwhelmed, if you're feeling down, if you're feeling negativity,
if you're.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
About to do some negativity, get that word and you
first see how you feel when you be good. You know,
whether it be that song, whether it be by scripture.
Speaker 9 (28:06):
Get that word on you quickly and and and try
your best, and I think about what you wanted to
think about. Just change your focus to God and watch
how much peace you will feel an experience exactly.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
You can't put enough price on that model of our
churches to pray, read and meditate.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
There we go.
Speaker 10 (28:29):
Every day.
Speaker 9 (28:30):
So yes, meditate on that word. Try to understand what
every line is saying. It's not always as forward as
you may think. Look at the different verbs and the
way they say different things, how they talking and plural
and then in singular, you know, try to keep track
of where the conversation is coming from. And that's what
I like to do. I even order me some study bibles. Honey,
(28:50):
I want to know, I'm writing.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I don't just go to church. I read my Bible
and I want to learn more.
Speaker 10 (28:59):
I want to learn, and they have to.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
You have to get them involved in church too. That's
another important thing. They don't know that, you know. Then
they get that in them when they're younger. I mean,
you know, like the product of sun. They'll come back
to it if.
Speaker 10 (29:12):
They fall fall short. We all have.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
But if you get it in them when they're young
and they grow, they.
Speaker 10 (29:18):
Still rely on it.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
They happen to have some kind of foundations, because that's
what a lot of foundation, that's what's important.
Speaker 9 (29:25):
You know, trying to get grounded in this world and everything.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
And they don't have one answer to that, and themum
wage ain't gonna cut it.
Speaker 9 (29:34):
You sit there, you work your whole little forty hour
shift and you don't have enough.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Money to cover rent. So the rent is avoge. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (29:44):
I feel for these kids because they they they they're
put in a situation that we weren't put in. But
they were also given the tools to excel, so they
could afford that if they paid attention and will their
souf And so maybe parents can also do bad job
as well teaching their children, but they're not being taught
in school and that's financial literacy. Or maybe find some
(30:04):
type of community agency that does the work you know,
maybe they bee worksheets, speeches, they got books. However they're
reaching the kids online, whatever type of media they're using,
and not just children, adults, teenagers, you know, advance it more,
take out the pictures, add more words, you know, more terminology.
(30:25):
Something has to kind of form there because in other states,
I know in Texas particularly, they teach financial literacy and
their education, and so some teachers are just like this
is a part of life, when others was like, they
don't even have the option. And so it's important for
me and to all of the other servant leaders out
(30:45):
here doing God's work as he created us to be.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
And I think it's important that we double.
Speaker 9 (30:53):
Down on our future youth, you know, and future social
security providers and whatever whatever those benefits are when you
set up working.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I just want I just want to see them win.
However that works out.
Speaker 10 (31:08):
Same here, same exactly.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Yeah. I love our young I love for young people.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
I mean all young people just.
Speaker 10 (31:15):
Touch my heart anyway.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
I mean, regardless of your race or you know their facts.
But I just want all them, like you, just to
be winner. You know, we have one chance.
Speaker 10 (31:25):
To get it right.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
We won't like to live and me having to have that.
You know, we have so many opportunities.
Speaker 10 (31:32):
I don't want them to miss out on it.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
If I tell them all the time, it's so much
to see, you know, don't be both minded to see
the world.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, I like to travel as well.
Speaker 9 (31:42):
And sometimes I tell my friends, I'm like, listen, I
really want to move out the country. I think my
mind to set them out and told the whole family,
I'm going out the country who live, you know, because
I just like the difference. And when you take that
when you take that glance and it's like you're looking
through binoculars at the US, you know, you see how
high school mentality it is.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
At times.
Speaker 9 (32:03):
You know, you eat this because this is what I
give you.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
You know, you.
Speaker 9 (32:07):
Do this because this is the structure I force upon you.
Whereas you go to countries like England or London. When
you're in London, I learned that people are people, you know,
It's not these racial or subcategories of people.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
People are people. And I had a great time with that.
Speaker 9 (32:26):
I had a great time looking at all the people
walking using scooters, mass transits, smaller cars, smaller of small emissions.
I'm just thinking about all of the benefits. How the
food was nice and fresh, and I couldn't find anything
that I recognized here over there, I'm looking for doves, soap,
no baby, go get some black sown't even something you know,
(32:50):
no McDonald's every day going where you look, you know,
So I mean like you just get a better perspective.
But with your options a life. Just get out of
your seat, get if you can drive there, don't go
for and just go see what these places are about.
They even have resources. If you're scared about wandering through
(33:12):
this new space, you know you can resort, but hit
the museum up until you know, just exactly expand yourself
and know that there's way more to it, just.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
And some opportunities you get to see how good you
have it. I've been to some countries where they would
take the shirt off my back, and not just African countries,
some Filipino countries, just the Asian country. Just some places
where we think we're you see how last we are.
I mean there's no running water, no electricity. I've seen
(33:46):
hardboard boxes on the side of the road. So if
they you know, they're complaining and saying there.
Speaker 10 (33:52):
You know, don't have much.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
You know, some of them might not feel like they
have with their friends or what they want to have.
But when we go up to some of those cultures,
we're like, wow, I've been to some countries where their
kids walk to school with no shoes and one computer
in the whole classroom and they're sitting on the floor
trying to learn and quite yeah. We had some mission
(34:14):
trips from when I was in Maryland and we went
over engaged shoes and clothes and supplies because they were
just able to get some books. And these kids when
I go to so many schools that's substitute at the
school I was telling you about, and they have so
many laptops and iPads.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
And the kids just break them up.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
I was like, wow, he's does a library, I shaid, say,
you guys, I've been in the country. The first library
was just built and that was in the nineties.
Speaker 9 (34:42):
You know, a friend of mine he built a library
in the Africa. I forget the exact village it was.
It was out there, remote. He can only talk when
he drove into the city, but he sent lots of
pictures and it was just one of those villages that
people assume Africa looked like, you know, lots of mud, barefoot,
you know, just whatever, whatever you want to imagine.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
But the live area was cute.
Speaker 9 (35:07):
It gave the kids someplace to go in their imagination,
you know, whether it was they're based in their skills,
or or if it was just a mental picture away
from where they were, or or maybe it's something related
to what they're interested in, but it was it was
it was important for him to provide that. And then
eventually he went there saw building up like little school
(35:27):
houses and stuff. But that that was his first inspiration
to create a library for the youth.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
I love it very nice.
Speaker 10 (35:36):
Then they worship.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
If you go to an African country and you go
to worship with them, we did them on a Sunday morning.
They know how to worship, they love to dance, and
they know that they're thankful just for the little things.
Speaker 10 (35:50):
You know.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
It's just nice to see, you know, not no one
dressed up, nobody design or clothes. And I'm like, they're
just so humble and they so big, close, they close knit.
So that's what I say. And I want some of
these kids to just seek, go, get obey and broaden
their horizons just to see they can even be go
evangelized on mission workers or they want to help, you know,
(36:10):
they asking for people do and like you said, you
want to live outside the country. A lot of especially
a lot of military, they don't come back. They don't
come back home. A lot of a lot of Americans Germany,
with all that army bases in Germany, it just end
up buying property. And just not just Germany, just a
lot of European countries has a lot of Americans to
just decide.
Speaker 10 (36:29):
That I'm not coming back to the spaces.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Along they get along. It's not much crime, you know,
but a lot of countries that's low on teen pregnancy,
a lot of stuff that we have to deal with.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
And I've seen, you know, the thieves that people are
just living, they enjoying life. And that's and then the
scenery is beautiful. Yes, yes, a lot of places I
want them to go back. A lot of it I
want to go back.
Speaker 9 (36:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
So that's just one benefit that I enjoyed. That's just
traveled to president, but just being out to you know,
getting the country, seeing so many different cultures, that was
a big part of it that I enjoyed. But I
have numbers so much that I accomplished, you know, in
my twenty eight years and well twenty four flying, but
(37:19):
twenty eight years total. I still had a lot of
good memories that I that I like to share, and
like I said, justin being encourager too, not just like
I said, not a recruiter for the military, but I
let the people know that I'm benefiting it from it
now as.
Speaker 10 (37:36):
Well when I was in.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
And although I'm out, it's still you have military discals
and all that good stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I know, that's right.
Speaker 9 (37:49):
You get a lot of benefits being a veteran or
retiring from the military. There's lots of benefits. And I
guess people are just going to have to find out,
you know, do the research and see if that's than
that you can do. Could you please let our listeners
know how they can support you with your book coming out,
If you have a website where they can read more
about you or maybe book you for your services.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
This is just time to just plug plug away, Miss Joel.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
Yes, I do have a website. It's just my name
Wanda Joel j o E l l dot com Wandajoel
dot com and it's all on there. I mean, they
can it's events, they're looking to book a booking request
you can read a little bit about me. It's a
homepage of course, and then you can even look at
the media to see what kind of just not this podcast,
(38:41):
but TV local TV shows. I've been on, magazine interviews,
all the schools that I've attended, in churches that I
spoke at. So gives you a little history of some
of the things I have done. And then if anyone
wants me to come and speak. Like I said, it
is a booking request on there and Creative Copy.
Speaker 10 (39:00):
They are out of Texas.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
They're finishing my book Dreams and Flight, and so we'll
have that post it soon once thats out to how
to get that. I'm sure they're gonna post on Amazon
and different events. But yeah, so you just see the
timeline my flying career president that breaks it all down
the total.
Speaker 10 (39:19):
Of twenty four years.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Let you know each president I was under that I
served under. Also took care of the first ladies and
some pictures on the website as well, and I like
to share and talk about some of the trips. So yeah,
Wanda Joe dot com.
Speaker 9 (39:37):
Is that simple enough? Do you have any social media
that can reach or is it on your website?
Speaker 5 (39:42):
It's all on my wife Sie, that's connected on the
webside as well. And then what picks me? I'm sorry,
they can put my name in and uh and see
me on social Facebook of course, linked In and Instagram
on that as well.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Thank you so much, thank you for being here, Thank
you for coming back, Batman.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
Any last words, I just want to say, thank you
so much for sharing and we wish your journey much success.
Speaker 10 (40:09):
Amen, thank you so much for us nanks me and
you as well.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
I don't think we soil last time.
Speaker 7 (40:16):
It's true, it's true. Well, thank you so much. Keep
making history, hey man, agen.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Into that before we close out, and want to take
it to prayer.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Heaven.
Speaker 9 (40:27):
Me, Father, we thank you for this evening. We thank
you for this day and our daily bread. We thank
you for your love over us, your protection over us,
how you keep us in perfect peace. We ask that
you just give us your strength and help us to
live through it. Help us to be able to take
the challenge and turn that into your good. Help us
to be able to survive in this world as we
(40:49):
have these day and day issues, and help those that
are helpful to us. We're praying for our family. We're
praying for our bloodline. We're praying for those that are
important to us. We asked that you give them your peace,
your love, and your safety forever more.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Have your angels keep us and let no harm come
against us in Jesus name.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
Amen, Amen, Amen.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Thank you for joining us today, and I hope you
come back on the show, and thank you all for listening.
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I just want to say shout out to everybody just
hanging in there.
Speaker 8 (01:44):
I know it's a lot of.
Speaker 7 (01:45):
News going on, y'all, hang on man, I see something
like this again, that's right to get interesting, and you
guys know what I'm talking about if I'm going deep
into it. But anyway, but I hope you guys having
a great week. It is Thursday, around the corner from
the weekend. Man home, you guys making plans because the
weather was awesome here today in Baltimore. He had our
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eighty one but a little bit of hearmid, that's right,
And we've been handing a lot this year that we're
gonna be experiencing a lot of windstorms and some stuff
we haven't really seen too much of in a while.
Hopefully it's not in Maryland, but for those of you
that's you know, those regions, you know, let's be careful.
Check out your insurance policies, make sure you cover, get
(02:31):
that flood insurance, whatever you gotta do, y'all, just protect
yourself because you know things are kind of different right
now and you may have to start over if it
hits you. So that's my words of encouragion. Anyway, Well,
tonight tonight on the show, we have a lady you
guys probably heard on the show before that shure she
(02:51):
was on this show or made the lead millions. Her
name is Wanda Joel. She's a groundbreaking figuring in the
US military aviation at National It's some trail blazer, that's right,
one of our historical sheieans she was the first African
American women to permanent assigned to the flight as a
flight attendant on Air Force one. I believe she's with
(03:12):
a couple of presidents too, that's right, and she's here
to talk all about it. Before we let her out
to cue, let me talk to Kelly, and she was
going on her world.
Speaker 8 (03:23):
What's up, Kelly Holland, what's going on in your world?
What's hey?
Speaker 9 (03:27):
Hey, Hey Batman, Hey Baltimore, what's up world?
Speaker 2 (03:34):
How is everybody?
Speaker 8 (03:35):
Every birdy?
Speaker 5 (03:38):
We good.
Speaker 8 (03:39):
We get Kelly Holland the family.
Speaker 2 (03:43):
Family as well. We're doing good.
Speaker 9 (03:46):
That thing you said you didn't want to talk about
what you're talking about.
Speaker 8 (03:49):
Friend, We're gonna hit you laid offline.
Speaker 9 (03:55):
Oh wow, that's deep. We talk about almost anything right here.
Speaker 7 (04:00):
Yeah, we can't anymore. They got for they got forms
you gotta sign. But anyway, for all that said, Yeah,
for all that said, just tune in the YouTube ship
pop up in your queue. Yeah, things gonna be kind
of different. You know, one thing that I do want
to touch a point I want to touch on this.
(04:21):
I was kind of throwing back a little bit about
the direction that that that the US was going in
with with the EV's. You know, I thought that was
like gonna be a really strong I know, there's a
lot of the US automakers are coming out with products.
I heard your pants about to or Toyota is about
to former partnership with a company in China who are
(04:43):
currently have a whole fleet of EV's that do really well.
And I was kind of excited because, you know, my
son had owned one and he you know, actually he's
on his third one, and but he still buys gas
gas Foster Fool cars for some reason. But I guess,
I don't know, I guess he still had that love
(05:04):
that he has. He has to go to the gas stage.
You me, some interesting people at the gas station to.
Speaker 6 (05:10):
Very way.
Speaker 7 (05:11):
So I was just kind of thrown back, how you know,
it looks like we kind of on the US is
kind of on the fence with the EV world and
the fossil fuel, you know, and I just don't get it,
you know, because especially because they said the Earth is
kind of having some some you know, it's in trouble
right now. I need some help, you know, And it's
like I just don't get it. You know, they're getting
(05:32):
rid of a lot of stuff that we really need,
you know. I mean I was kind of looking forward
to getting the windmill.
Speaker 8 (05:37):
In my yard.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
As soon as you can, because.
Speaker 7 (05:42):
I don't think you can get one now. I mean
think you can't even get solar panels in some communities.
I know we can't, but I wanted to get a
little windmill. Yeah, yeah, because because I think the farms
are not that far from us. Telling know, the solar
farms are not there far from then Woodstock, but the
(06:03):
windmill farms on the eastern shore, and you can pipe
pipe it in, you know, to your system.
Speaker 9 (06:09):
Yeah right, yeah, I know anybody has a problem with
doing something positive that that that needs to be obsessed.
Speaker 7 (06:20):
Okay, I guess it depends who's calling the shots. But yes,
it's interesting because the earth is really in trouble right now,
and I just thought that should have been a direction
we really should have leaned on, you know. But you know,
I'm just a podcast. I don't know anything. I'm just
a batman. I'm just a proving All right, were you
(06:42):
ready to talk to your guests?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
You ready?
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Absolutely?
Speaker 8 (06:46):
You know we can talk about stuff all day, we can.
What's up?
Speaker 7 (06:50):
What's up, sister Joel, Welcome to Late Night. How are
you tonight?
Speaker 10 (06:56):
I'm fine.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
How are you all doing? It's right? Thank you for
having me back. No time.
Speaker 7 (07:06):
Yeah, well look, I'm just saying hello. I'm turning the
keys over to Kelly. So you guys have a gree show.
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Amen.
Speaker 9 (07:15):
Amen, thank you for joining us this evening. It is
such a treat to have you back. Could you let
our listeners know who you are and what it is
that you do.
Speaker 4 (07:26):
Oh yes, ma'am.
Speaker 5 (07:27):
I'm retired Senior massa Sar doot Wander Joel, and I
made history as being the first African American woman permanently
hired on Air Force one who serves the presidents of
the United States, and I end up flying four presidents
during my time and retired with five thousand flying hours.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
Amen. Amen.
Speaker 9 (07:48):
So wait a minute, Yeah, five thousand hours you spent
in the air.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Like, what is that equick to.
Speaker 5 (07:57):
Yes?
Speaker 10 (07:58):
But yeah, that's a lot of.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
You calculated per month.
Speaker 5 (08:03):
I don't know how you break it down, but I
spent most of my career in the air.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
I understand.
Speaker 9 (08:10):
Outside of being in that area of work. I mean,
what an amazing job to get. How could you come
upon such an opportunity.
Speaker 10 (08:21):
Yeah, well it is.
Speaker 5 (08:22):
You do have to be in the military. The Air
Force Service president on Air Force Women is part of
part of our aircraft is part of the Air Force.
And it's quite a few things you have to do
to get selected. It's not just to pick you up
just because you're in the military. You have to apply
for it like any other position, and they do quite
a bit of background checks, reviewing your records and and
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seeing how you are living and of all that good
stuff because you have to have a get a high clearance.
So it took me about about good year and a
half to find finalize everything, and they permanently hired me
when I came back from overseas. I was overseas and
a lot of people that got selected during my time
cross train. We were in different career fields within the
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military and you applied for it. They call it a
special duty assignment. Andrew's Air Force Base in Maryland.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
That was wonderful.
Speaker 9 (09:17):
You know, what does it mean when you're leaving at
such a high level. Was that intense pressure and scrutiny.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
Oh goodness, it's you. Like I said, they do a
background check. So once you get accepted and get that clearance,
you want to keep it for one you know, because
and then once you get higher on the crew, a
lot of people you have to wait for opening because
once a lot of flight attendants prior to me, they
just retired out of there. You know, they might have
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got hired for maybe ten years in or so I
end up staying for twenty four years totally on Air
Force one. Yeah, so that is something that I always
had a dream of doing, flying as a little girl.
That's how my story started, you know, childhood dream to
be a flight attendant. And of course I came across
a lot of different obstacles and barriers along the way
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with downsides, you know, the airlines and different things like that,
and the Lord put in my heart to see what
the Air Force had to offer, and not knowing they
had flight attendants, but I took that leap of faith
and joined the military connected its air force must have
some type airplanes. And so the Air Force set me
overseas where I was working at a terminal doing sort
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of like a ticket agent kind of job. And that's
when I started seeing these nice blue and white planes
landing and I'm like, okay, they look like they are
military affiliated, and went on our base and that's how
my career all started. Found out that it was a,
like I said, a special duty assignment at Andrews. And
I found out what I had to do to apply
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for the job and about it. Like I said, a
year and a half later, I got the phone call,
left England, went to Indiana for about a year and
they hired me. From there, I went to Andrews and
started with the vice president. We start, You don't start
right away on airport airport the.
Speaker 10 (11:06):
Vice president called air force too.
Speaker 5 (11:08):
So I started and humbled myself and proved myself.
Speaker 10 (11:11):
Still have to prove yourself.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
You still have to you know, audio steps.
Speaker 10 (11:15):
And then and then I found out, okay, I'm here,
so how do.
Speaker 5 (11:18):
I get to the big plane exactly?
Speaker 9 (11:21):
And you know, I was curious about that, you know,
because being in the air and aviation and then also
doing it in the military branch, it kind of seems
from the outside looking in, of course, that it would
be like more of a male dominated type of job
or career choice.
Speaker 2 (11:41):
So are you wearing?
Speaker 9 (11:43):
I'm sure they have secret agents on the plane, but
I'm wondering, like are you packing?
Speaker 5 (11:48):
You?
Speaker 2 (11:48):
Are you while you're in the air.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
But you know what, you hit the nail on the
head because that was actually one of my challenges because
it was the predominately male career field men men service
the president back in the day. And when I did start,
it was I would say a total maybe.
Speaker 10 (12:12):
Four or five women total.
Speaker 5 (12:14):
And I know, I mean history is the first African
American woman, but it was a predominantly male career. So
I mean I flew and worked with some men that
weren't even used to working side by side with women
in the military, let alone to fly with them. So
but no, we don't pack. But like to answer your question,
we do have a we have Air Force cops as
well as Secret Service. Of course they take care of
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the president, but to take care of the airplane and
guard and all that protection, all that high level security,
we have Air Force Air Force police officers also that
travel with us and we do our job, they do
their job. So it's quite a few crew members. I
would stay up to maybe thirty crew memers different positions.
Speaker 2 (12:52):
Well, and they are deemed necessary, of course they must be.
What was one of the.
Speaker 9 (12:57):
Most you know, news affiliated type of article we would
have seen that maybe you you participated in some type
of major event with Air Force one.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
Was there ever an experience like that?
Speaker 10 (13:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (13:15):
You could probably on the History Channel. I know they
sent a few of us to New York to interview
us about being with President Bush forty one forty three.
I said, I'm sorry during nine eleven. Okay, wow, so
I was on board?
Speaker 2 (13:30):
Yes, yeah, yes, like what's something we know? He's a girl.
Speaker 10 (13:39):
Oh, everybody makes it. Everybody can relate to that.
Speaker 5 (13:45):
When that happened. I got that right, was the airfly
and hopefully the only one only plane in the air.
Speaker 9 (13:54):
To right, But it was with President Bush. They called
him or they made that movie about and it was
just yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Did you did you serve on his plane? Air Force one?
Speaker 6 (14:12):
Yeah?
Speaker 10 (14:12):
Yes, I was aboard on Air Force one during that time.
Speaker 2 (14:15):
Wow wow wow.
Speaker 5 (14:17):
Yeah wow yeah exactly.
Speaker 10 (14:24):
Prayer, you know all that.
Speaker 5 (14:25):
Good stuff you have to be ready for you never know,
you just never know.
Speaker 10 (14:29):
You have to be prayed up, ready to go.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
Amazing.
Speaker 10 (14:34):
But I had a chance.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
To on that like particular flight to embrace the President,
which was really not a memorable moment, but just you know,
kind of emotional just to and God just put in
my spirit just to tell him that, you know, God
is with us, and he's got this airplane, you know,
seeing we were escorted of course with fighter planes and
all that kind of stuff, and felt kind of safe.
(14:55):
But I still was able to share that you know,
moment with with the president and with everything that was
going on that day. So that was the moment I
never forget.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
How could you?
Speaker 5 (15:08):
Right? Yeah, okay, but I have met I had so
many memorable moments, you know, with twenty four years flying
and four presidents and five thousand dollars, you know.
Speaker 10 (15:20):
We could be on just call for a minute. But yeah,
I have some things. That's nice.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Memorable moment, I mean, you know, bittersweet, but I have
a lot of a lot of different we had. It
was just like a family flying together, the same crew
all the time, and and seeing the world, I mean
and everything and representing it not just the air force
of our country, but just to serve the President and
any of his dignitaries. Not just him, but you know,
he had his guests on board, and anyone that was invited.
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I've even had athletes, actresses, anyone from Hollywood of course,
different centators and congressmen, anyone that was invited. You know,
we they got first class service, just like we stay
the president so amen that people about his staff as well.
So yeah, we could probably have about if you count
the crew members, sometimes up to probably seventy five or
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more on one particular flight.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
So wow, it takes a lot.
Speaker 5 (16:14):
Yeah, it is. It's a big operation, and it takes
a lot to get off back ground and to go,
you know to different countries and different cities, but especially
if you're leaving to go overseas. You know, there's a
lot of preparation and prepping food and all of our
food on Air Force one and shopped and cooked by
the flight attendant from scratch. So everything had to be
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done in order, you.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Know, okay, and that makes good sense.
Speaker 9 (16:41):
And you know people have allergies and all type of
special dietary needs and that's amazing. You go out and
get it and you make sure they're comfortable and then
they can have their meals. You know, it was, it was,
it was striking when you came on last year and
he was telling us about this, and I'm glad for
our listeners that may have missed that episode that they
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can hear it today and just understand, we have a
legend on the line, y'all.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
We have a history, groundbreaking woman on the line. And
and not.
Speaker 9 (17:11):
Just as the flight attendant of Air Force one, she's
a master sergeant.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
There we go. How is life after the military?
Speaker 5 (17:29):
You know what, I missed the military life, but it
still paved ways for me to not just benefit from
it as a veteran, but these kind of doors are
opening to share and inspire my story and encourage young people.
That's what I like to do, to hold on to
their dreams if they have desires. That's a little girl
(17:50):
like me wanted to fly air just a airplane, you know,
but look where I reached, you know, so.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
The biggest airplane, the most important.
Speaker 5 (17:58):
Exactly, but the most important, right powerless men.
Speaker 10 (18:01):
In the world exactly.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
So I just I like to encourage just you know,
God ordered my steps and I let them know that
if they just stay faithful and you know, do the
right thing, especially coming up now with all the social
media and stuff they could get involved in or distract,
you know, along the way. They could mess up their
dreams because they had to do a background check.
Speaker 10 (18:21):
And I tell the young.
Speaker 5 (18:22):
People, they went back to my middle school or the
junior high school teachers just to see what kind of
background or life I was living and who I associated with.
So you know, it pays off to.
Speaker 9 (18:35):
Yeah, it's important coming from an educator field in America,
in in Maryland, in Baltimore. Let me just specify my
locality in Baltimore, whether it be the city, which is
significantly worse, or the county which is just as bad.
Speaker 2 (18:54):
Kids don't want to learn. They don't want to learn.
Speaker 9 (18:57):
They cry about hard work they can and they're having
trouble with their basic mad skills. And I'm telling them,
I said, listen, this is what you need to get
you the job. I don't know what you think is
after school, but it's called work, and so it could
either be a job or it could be a career.
You decide based on the skills that you want to
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put yourself in the things that you want to invest in.
And it's often that they don't see that perspective and
they're just like, listen, I got an iPhone. I'm gonna
type these numbers in and I'm like, well, show me
the work, let me know you can really do this,
and so like that, that's what I deal with, just
trying to help students just recognize the opportunity of education.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Whereas when we have foreigners come to the school, whether.
Speaker 5 (19:48):
It be.
Speaker 9 (19:50):
Afghanies they speaking or do or they speak in Spanish,
when those kids come to our school, they're disciplined, they're quiet,
they're meek, they're and they're attentive and they want.
Speaker 5 (20:02):
To learn, right, that's that's and that's their culture. Because
you know, there is really the environment and it is
really sad, like you said, and I'm involved in the
school system here in Georgia and they have where I
the schools around where I'm at now, they have a
lot of different not just the colleges, but a lot
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of different health resources that come in and just let
them know the opportunities. And if they don't know, you know,
you got to educate them. You know, they think this
is the little box I got to say in or
I got to live in Georgia for the rest of
my life, or this is just.
Speaker 10 (20:38):
Broaden their horizon. Tell them about it.
Speaker 5 (20:40):
I'm encourse about the military because I couldn't see all
the countries on my own. So I'm seeing around around
the world, I know how many times, not just on
Air Force one. But I encouraged them this is come
in the military, even if they can't afford college right now,
or they not just in afford college right away, but
a lot of.
Speaker 10 (20:57):
Them have figured out what they want to do.
Speaker 5 (20:59):
So you could just do just see the world and
then you could do so many different career fields within
the services. You could take that and put it on
your resume once you figure out, you know later what
you want to really say that knowledge, take that background. Yeah,
there's a lot of pavillion. A lot of them hire
military because they know that the discipline that they could
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depend on them, you know, to be on time and
all that good stuff. So there's a lot of opportunities.
But the same here I feel this generation, you know,
they want to make it big, but they don't want
to work for it like.
Speaker 9 (21:33):
At all, and they just want to wake up one morning.
They have so much money, that's all. It's really sad
that it's really sad that is the common culture right now. Unfortunately,
prayerfully we can keep pushing forward. All the educators, all
people that deal with children, young adults, adult literacy.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Please, let's all just continue to be that village. You know,
things does seem diary sometime.
Speaker 9 (22:02):
What inspired you to become a motivational speaker and then
told me that you speak?
Speaker 2 (22:08):
And I didn't know that.
Speaker 9 (22:09):
I was like she had so many times, I didn't
know she was actually a speaker as well.
Speaker 2 (22:13):
I know she's an author, but.
Speaker 5 (22:16):
Yeah, basically just of my journey, but because of the
start and my uh my story how I started, you know,
not knowing that I don't make that historical mark, but
if it had, it could it happens for me. I
just won't let any not just a child or young
person and adults that have a dream that they're just
been sitting on that, you know, let them know they
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could still pursue it, you know, and just be intentional
about you what you want to do, because I just
feel like I'm living proof then, you know.
Speaker 10 (22:46):
I just try to encourage people to work hard and
just never.
Speaker 5 (22:49):
Give up on their dreams. And my favorite scripture, so
I'm thirty seven four to like yourself and the Lord,
and He'll give you the desires of your heart. Oh
you got to miss your ways under him and trust
him and then show he up bringing to path. You
just got to continue to trust him, you know. If
you feel discovery, sometimes you just got to look up
and pray.
Speaker 10 (23:06):
He'll give you the strength.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
And he always puts somebody from shows favor and he
gives somebody and put somebody in your life to direct
you if you need help. You know, just pray about
all things.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Amen, Amen, I pray for the resources.
Speaker 9 (23:21):
You don't have what you need, pray for it exactly,
but you know what, go ahead.
Speaker 10 (23:31):
Yes, that's what I'm gonna say. When you look, you
know you're praying for something.
Speaker 5 (23:34):
You're like, I need some direction, and if you're praying
about it, and then when you look, it's right there
in front of you.
Speaker 10 (23:39):
You know, God just here.
Speaker 5 (23:41):
And I prayed about even this career.
Speaker 10 (23:43):
So I told the Lord to close.
Speaker 5 (23:44):
The doors along the way if it wasn't meant to be.
And the commercial side of the house at the high school.
That's all I try to do, apply for different commercials,
and those stories are just looking happening. Until one afternoon
I told my parents, I just big, I'm interested in
the military. See what they had to offer. They supported
me all the way, but and I prayed about that too.
(24:05):
I said, okay, Lord, if it's not meant to be
close that door.
Speaker 10 (24:12):
Exactly, and then we're trying to fight in the case, keep.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
It open, and it's like that, I have something else
for you to see, wager.
Speaker 9 (24:19):
Yes, yes, exactly, plans to keep you in the perfect piece.
Speaker 5 (24:25):
You know.
Speaker 9 (24:25):
I also wanted to speak more to you about Dreams
and Flight. That's your upcoming children's book.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
How far along are.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
You on there, you know what. I believe that's going
to be finishing soon. We did the final edit in
the last couple of weeks, and I think it's going
to be going to publishing soon, so I would look
for that towards the end of summer. I say, maybe early, Paul,
mm hmm.
Speaker 10 (24:49):
And that should be yes, ma'am.
Speaker 5 (24:52):
That tells you my story and breaks everything down and exciting,
memorable trips and all kinds of good stuff in there.
Speaker 2 (24:59):
Sounds nice.
Speaker 9 (25:00):
Did you include any pictures from your personal experience?
Speaker 5 (25:04):
I did.
Speaker 10 (25:05):
I wanted to.
Speaker 5 (25:05):
That's why I think it took so long, because I
wanted to per chapter. I wanted to illustrate, you know,
everybody get a visual what I was trying to say.
So that's probably why it took as long as it did,
and I wanted to reach all all ages. So it
is a picture book as well, maybe not for maybe
a kindergarten. I really get it, but I think they
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will understand. You know, this little girl had a dream
and where I ended. So I think, you know, it
was definitely touched middle school and high school. But even
like I said, these kids are so smart nowadays, even
if it is in elementary, I think it will be
at a they'll say, I remember that because I've been
in libraries and the elementary schools and they have quite
a few aviation book sites though we did maybe first
(25:51):
women in aviation pilot first, Yeah, have astronauts. Yeah, so
they can understand. These kids are bright.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
These kids are bright, right, the absolutely are.
Speaker 9 (26:01):
And I just I just think it's wonderful when you
do see them that are encouraged and they have questions
and they're excited about life, and they're excited about the
possibility of what they see on that book happening in
their real life. And so yes, I agree, I completely agree.
Speaker 5 (26:19):
You know, I'm sorry, go ahead, I was bad.
Speaker 10 (26:24):
Did some graduations.
Speaker 5 (26:25):
So a couple of weeks ago, fifth graders and some
of One young lady she introduced me and you talk
articulate that she probably goes straight from fifth grade to
her first year in college. That's why that's smart.
Speaker 6 (26:39):
Oh yeah.
Speaker 5 (26:40):
So a lot of them just need to see what,
like I said, the opportunities that you know, and give
them something to think about.
Speaker 10 (26:46):
And if they just try.
Speaker 5 (26:48):
To keep them on a straight and narrow that's the
biggest thing, you know, make something, make something up their lives.
That's what I want to see a young person just
do well. You know, I hate to see them just
go to their life away and get involved in you know,
they might make mistakes.
Speaker 10 (27:02):
Along the way.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
I'm not saying everybody's gonna be perfect, but let them
know that they could what they say, get back up again.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Get back up again.
Speaker 9 (27:14):
Absolutely, absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 2 (27:20):
That's one of those one of those worship songs just.
Speaker 4 (27:23):
In right, I have to have every now and then
I blast a few of his songs in.
Speaker 5 (27:34):
My house and have a concert with him in Yolanda.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
They know the battle is.
Speaker 5 (27:37):
Not yours, Automo. Okay. That's the ones that that you
need every day, every to get you.
Speaker 10 (27:45):
Life be like for everybody.
Speaker 9 (27:46):
And that's what I was saying. Pull you out of
that mental space and bring you closer to God. If
you're feeling overwhelmed, if you're feeling down, if you're feeling negativity,
if you're.
Speaker 2 (27:55):
About to do some negativity, get that word and you
first see how you feel when you be good. You know,
whether it be that song, whether it be by scripture.
Speaker 9 (28:06):
Get that word on you quickly and and and try
your best, and I think about what you wanted to
think about. Just change your focus to God and watch
how much peace you will feel an experience exactly.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
You can't put enough price on that model of our
churches to pray, read and meditate.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
There we go.
Speaker 10 (28:29):
Every day.
Speaker 9 (28:30):
So yes, meditate on that word. Try to understand what
every line is saying. It's not always as forward as
you may think. Look at the different verbs and the
way they say different things, how they talking and plural
and then in singular, you know, try to keep track
of where the conversation is coming from. And that's what
I like to do. I even order me some study bibles. Honey,
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I want to know, I'm writing.
Speaker 2 (28:55):
I don't just go to church. I read my Bible
and I want to learn more.
Speaker 10 (28:59):
I want to learn, and they have to.
Speaker 5 (29:02):
You have to get them involved in church too. That's
another important thing. They don't know that, you know. Then
they get that in them when they're younger. I mean,
you know, like the product of sun. They'll come back
to it if.
Speaker 10 (29:12):
They fall fall short. We all have.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
But if you get it in them when they're young
and they grow, they.
Speaker 10 (29:18):
Still rely on it.
Speaker 5 (29:20):
They happen to have some kind of foundations, because that's
what a lot of foundation, that's what's important.
Speaker 9 (29:25):
You know, trying to get grounded in this world and everything.
Speaker 2 (29:30):
And they don't have one answer to that, and themum
wage ain't gonna cut it.
Speaker 9 (29:34):
You sit there, you work your whole little forty hour
shift and you don't have enough.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
Money to cover rent. So the rent is avoge. Yeah.
Speaker 9 (29:44):
I feel for these kids because they they they they're
put in a situation that we weren't put in. But
they were also given the tools to excel, so they
could afford that if they paid attention and will their
souf And so maybe parents can also do bad job
as well teaching their children, but they're not being taught
in school and that's financial literacy. Or maybe find some
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type of community agency that does the work you know,
maybe they bee worksheets, speeches, they got books. However they're
reaching the kids online, whatever type of media they're using,
and not just children, adults, teenagers, you know, advance it more,
take out the pictures, add more words, you know, more terminology.
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Something has to kind of form there because in other states,
I know in Texas particularly, they teach financial literacy and
their education, and so some teachers are just like this
is a part of life, when others was like, they
don't even have the option. And so it's important for
me and to all of the other servant leaders out
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here doing God's work as he created us to be.
Speaker 2 (30:50):
And I think it's important that we double.
Speaker 9 (30:53):
Down on our future youth, you know, and future social
security providers and whatever whatever those benefits are when you
set up working.
Speaker 2 (31:03):
I just want I just want to see them win.
However that works out.
Speaker 10 (31:08):
Same here, same exactly.
Speaker 5 (31:10):
Yeah. I love our young I love for young people.
Speaker 4 (31:14):
I mean all young people just.
Speaker 10 (31:15):
Touch my heart anyway.
Speaker 5 (31:16):
I mean, regardless of your race or you know their facts.
But I just want all them, like you, just to
be winner. You know, we have one chance.
Speaker 10 (31:25):
To get it right.
Speaker 5 (31:26):
We won't like to live and me having to have that.
You know, we have so many opportunities.
Speaker 10 (31:32):
I don't want them to miss out on it.
Speaker 5 (31:34):
If I tell them all the time, it's so much
to see, you know, don't be both minded to see
the world.
Speaker 2 (31:40):
Yeah, I like to travel as well.
Speaker 9 (31:42):
And sometimes I tell my friends, I'm like, listen, I
really want to move out the country. I think my
mind to set them out and told the whole family,
I'm going out the country who live, you know, because
I just like the difference. And when you take that
when you take that glance and it's like you're looking
through binoculars at the US, you know, you see how
high school mentality it is.
Speaker 5 (32:02):
At times.
Speaker 9 (32:03):
You know, you eat this because this is what I
give you.
Speaker 2 (32:06):
You know, you.
Speaker 9 (32:07):
Do this because this is the structure I force upon you.
Whereas you go to countries like England or London. When
you're in London, I learned that people are people, you know,
It's not these racial or subcategories of people.
Speaker 2 (32:23):
People are people. And I had a great time with that.
Speaker 9 (32:26):
I had a great time looking at all the people
walking using scooters, mass transits, smaller cars, smaller of small emissions.
I'm just thinking about all of the benefits. How the
food was nice and fresh, and I couldn't find anything
that I recognized here over there, I'm looking for doves, soap,
no baby, go get some black sown't even something you know,
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no McDonald's every day going where you look, you know,
So I mean like you just get a better perspective.
But with your options a life. Just get out of
your seat, get if you can drive there, don't go
for and just go see what these places are about.
They even have resources. If you're scared about wandering through
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this new space, you know you can resort, but hit
the museum up until you know, just exactly expand yourself
and know that there's way more to it, just.
Speaker 5 (33:26):
And some opportunities you get to see how good you
have it. I've been to some countries where they would
take the shirt off my back, and not just African countries,
some Filipino countries, just the Asian country. Just some places
where we think we're you see how last we are.
I mean there's no running water, no electricity. I've seen
(33:46):
hardboard boxes on the side of the road. So if
they you know, they're complaining and saying there.
Speaker 10 (33:52):
You know, don't have much.
Speaker 5 (33:53):
You know, some of them might not feel like they
have with their friends or what they want to have.
But when we go up to some of those cultures,
we're like, wow, I've been to some countries where their
kids walk to school with no shoes and one computer
in the whole classroom and they're sitting on the floor
trying to learn and quite yeah. We had some mission
(34:14):
trips from when I was in Maryland and we went
over engaged shoes and clothes and supplies because they were
just able to get some books. And these kids when
I go to so many schools that's substitute at the
school I was telling you about, and they have so
many laptops and iPads.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
And the kids just break them up.
Speaker 5 (34:32):
I was like, wow, he's does a library, I shaid, say,
you guys, I've been in the country. The first library
was just built and that was in the nineties.
Speaker 9 (34:42):
You know, a friend of mine he built a library
in the Africa. I forget the exact village it was.
It was out there, remote. He can only talk when
he drove into the city, but he sent lots of
pictures and it was just one of those villages that
people assume Africa looked like, you know, lots of mud, barefoot,
you know, just whatever, whatever you want to imagine.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
But the live area was cute.
Speaker 9 (35:07):
It gave the kids someplace to go in their imagination,
you know, whether it was they're based in their skills,
or or if it was just a mental picture away
from where they were, or or maybe it's something related
to what they're interested in, but it was it was
it was important for him to provide that. And then
eventually he went there saw building up like little school
(35:27):
houses and stuff. But that that was his first inspiration
to create a library for the youth.
Speaker 5 (35:34):
I love it very nice.
Speaker 10 (35:36):
Then they worship.
Speaker 5 (35:37):
If you go to an African country and you go
to worship with them, we did them on a Sunday morning.
They know how to worship, they love to dance, and
they know that they're thankful just for the little things.
Speaker 10 (35:50):
You know.
Speaker 5 (35:50):
It's just nice to see, you know, not no one
dressed up, nobody design or clothes. And I'm like, they're
just so humble and they so big, close, they close knit.
So that's what I say. And I want some of
these kids to just seek, go, get obey and broaden
their horizons just to see they can even be go
evangelized on mission workers or they want to help, you know,
(36:10):
they asking for people do and like you said, you
want to live outside the country. A lot of especially
a lot of military, they don't come back. They don't
come back home. A lot of a lot of Americans Germany,
with all that army bases in Germany, it just end
up buying property. And just not just Germany, just a
lot of European countries has a lot of Americans to
just decide.
Speaker 10 (36:29):
That I'm not coming back to the spaces.
Speaker 4 (36:33):
Along they get along. It's not much crime, you know,
but a lot of countries that's low on teen pregnancy,
a lot of stuff that we have to deal with.
Speaker 5 (36:44):
And I've seen, you know, the thieves that people are
just living, they enjoying life. And that's and then the
scenery is beautiful. Yes, yes, a lot of places I
want them to go back. A lot of it I
want to go back.
Speaker 9 (36:57):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (36:57):
So that's just one benefit that I enjoyed. That's just
traveled to president, but just being out to you know,
getting the country, seeing so many different cultures, that was
a big part of it that I enjoyed. But I
have numbers so much that I accomplished, you know, in
my twenty eight years and well twenty four flying, but
(37:19):
twenty eight years total. I still had a lot of
good memories that I that I like to share, and
like I said, justin being encourager too, not just like
I said, not a recruiter for the military, but I
let the people know that I'm benefiting it from it
now as.
Speaker 10 (37:36):
Well when I was in.
Speaker 5 (37:38):
And although I'm out, it's still you have military discals
and all that good stuff.
Speaker 2 (37:42):
I know, that's right.
Speaker 9 (37:49):
You get a lot of benefits being a veteran or
retiring from the military. There's lots of benefits. And I
guess people are just going to have to find out,
you know, do the research and see if that's than
that you can do. Could you please let our listeners
know how they can support you with your book coming out,
If you have a website where they can read more
about you or maybe book you for your services.
Speaker 2 (38:12):
This is just time to just plug plug away, Miss Joel.
Speaker 5 (38:16):
Yes, I do have a website. It's just my name
Wanda Joel j o E l l dot com Wandajoel
dot com and it's all on there. I mean, they
can it's events, they're looking to book a booking request
you can read a little bit about me. It's a
homepage of course, and then you can even look at
the media to see what kind of just not this podcast,
(38:41):
but TV local TV shows. I've been on, magazine interviews,
all the schools that I've attended, in churches that I
spoke at. So gives you a little history of some
of the things I have done. And then if anyone
wants me to come and speak. Like I said, it
is a booking request on there and Creative Copy.
Speaker 10 (39:00):
They are out of Texas.
Speaker 5 (39:02):
They're finishing my book Dreams and Flight, and so we'll
have that post it soon once thats out to how
to get that. I'm sure they're gonna post on Amazon
and different events. But yeah, so you just see the
timeline my flying career president that breaks it all down
the total.
Speaker 10 (39:19):
Of twenty four years.
Speaker 5 (39:20):
Let you know each president I was under that I
served under. Also took care of the first ladies and
some pictures on the website as well, and I like
to share and talk about some of the trips. So yeah,
Wanda Joe dot com.
Speaker 9 (39:37):
Is that simple enough? Do you have any social media
that can reach or is it on your website?
Speaker 5 (39:42):
It's all on my wife Sie, that's connected on the
webside as well. And then what picks me? I'm sorry,
they can put my name in and uh and see
me on social Facebook of course, linked In and Instagram
on that as well.
Speaker 2 (39:54):
Oh that's right.
Speaker 5 (39:57):
Thank you so much, thank you for being here, Thank
you for coming back, Batman.
Speaker 7 (40:03):
Any last words, I just want to say, thank you
so much for sharing and we wish your journey much success.
Speaker 10 (40:09):
Amen, thank you so much for us nanks me and
you as well.
Speaker 5 (40:13):
I don't think we soil last time.
Speaker 7 (40:16):
It's true, it's true. Well, thank you so much. Keep
making history, hey man, agen.
Speaker 2 (40:21):
Into that before we close out, and want to take
it to prayer.
Speaker 5 (40:27):
Heaven.
Speaker 9 (40:27):
Me, Father, we thank you for this evening. We thank
you for this day and our daily bread. We thank
you for your love over us, your protection over us,
how you keep us in perfect peace. We ask that
you just give us your strength and help us to
live through it. Help us to be able to take
the challenge and turn that into your good. Help us
to be able to survive in this world as we
(40:49):
have these day and day issues, and help those that
are helpful to us. We're praying for our family. We're
praying for our bloodline. We're praying for those that are
important to us. We asked that you give them your peace,
your love, and your safety forever more.
Speaker 2 (41:02):
Have your angels keep us and let no harm come
against us in Jesus name.
Speaker 5 (41:08):
Amen, Amen, Amen.
Speaker 2 (41:12):
Thank you for joining us today, and I hope you
come back on the show, and thank you all for listening.
You have just witnessed. Jerry Voyce lies worldwide with Kelly Allen.
Speaker 9 (41:26):
Please join us every Thursday from ten to eleven pm
and never forget to tap back into your unspeakable joy.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
Have a good night, everybody.
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Speaker 6 (41:58):
Wife podcast?
Speaker 5 (42:00):
Hey Hey, Hey, my name is David and I'm from Haiti.
Speaker 6 (42:02):
But I don't even let me to come up from
equally I'm.
Speaker 9 (42:04):
Here plus even before I looking one one Jerry one live, Wrong.
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Wide and Juwary worldwide.
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What's good? George's name should go to the neighborod Ultimore Life.
Speaker 5 (42:21):
I'm proud, probably gonna go.
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Yeah, wow, Kyle, I'm from Baltimore, Marylandryland. You're listening.
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