EP 214: Fantasy Baseball Masterclass Roundtable w/ Phil Dussault, James Anderson, Andrew Geller and Jeff Zimmerman

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All right, welcome into the LongJangle Podcast.
We've got a special podcast for you guys tonight doing a little
bit of a second-half master class and I brought in the big
guns tonight along with me, Mr. Rob Silver, Mr. Jeff Zimmerman,
James Anderson filled the show and we got the Guild, Andrew
Gilla that will join us in a little bit.

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What's going on, Rob? This was a wonderful idea.
You had to bring this together and kind of go through team by
team and we're going to hit a little bit of you know, some
surprising guide, maybe some notso surprising guide, whatever we
can give you some little Nuggetsfor each team.
But what's up man? It's.
The All Star game, which I don'tcare about much, but no, I mean

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the the show that you and Jeff and Phil and Toby and and the
cast of thousands have done Tanner in the winter, I think
has been like the best episode you guys do each year.
I'm not saying we're going to hit quite that level, but I
think doing something like that that's both actionable for

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players and a bit of strategy was the idea with a bit of like
silliness. And when people actually said
yes, they were willing to sit here for a little bit and talk
about it. I hope.
I hope it's awesome. Absolutely.
And I definitely thank you guys for for joining us.
You know, James, you just sayingthis is probably the biggest,
busiest speak of week of the year for yourself.

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I appreciate you doing that. Phil just got back from
vacation. You should be fresh and and, and
full of robot thoughts. I'm, I'm hoping that you, I'm
guessing that you made a nice diary.
Yeah, on your on your trip. And Jeff, we got Jeff back in
the saddle, which is fantastic. Couldn't be happy about that.

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So let's just go dive right intoeach team.
So we're going to go in alphabetical water.
I'm going to use the rotor wire pitching grid because that's
always a beautiful thing to lookat and it's nice and aesthetic.
And we'll start off with the D backs here and basically wasn't
going to look for like several things basically like maybe a
guy who's over rostered and should be cut, a stand out guy

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who might bust or vice versa, sleeper prospect who might come
up a closer situation that mightbe worth discussing.
Whatever it is that we find interesting for each team will
nail. So we'll start with the D backs
and I don't know how you guys want to order this, but you, you
guys could feel free to step up and call out something you want

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to call about each team. I'll, I'll start with Arizona.
I think if Arizona start sellingat the trade deadline, they
become they, they have the potential to fuck things up
pretty good. If they start dumping guys, like
I think they're a guy like Josh Naylor could be one of the best
bats available. I don't know how all their

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starting pitchers actually get valued, but like somebody's
going to convince themselves that they can turn gallon around
and they're one of the only teams that have arms.
They have contracts with the arms.
But Arizona is in such a weird spot because they have talent,
but they're so friggin far away from the top teams in that

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division, even with the Dodgers struggling.
So I think they're one of the teams that could could just
change the the board a little bit in the next few weeks.
That makes them interesting to me.
And I think, I think if they're 5 1/2 back in the wild card, I
think they're pretty much a lockat this point to be selling.

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And like Suarez and Naylor are both free agency at the end of
the year. I think Lourdes has a player
option and I'm not sure how he'sexactly doing real baseball wise
and he's probably going to take it .8 or with 14,000,000 so he
probably takes that. But Suarez and Nail are two
really interesting bats that I think are going to be pretty

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much about to be traded and thatopens up spots.
Maybe McCarthy ends up playing everyday, helps out some teams
rest away in OC, something like that.
There's there's going to be two extra bats in there that are
going to start playing everyday.Yeah.
Yeah, I think one thing to watchis they've got like a Fangrass.

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We have them at 10%. Like they still have a chance.
I think the Tigers may have screwed some teams on selling
when they made their little run last year.
I think if the Diamond Max make a move, it'll be right at the
end. I don't think they're going to
see if they can get a little bitmore back in the wild card, but
I think it'll be like right at the end where you could see a
team like the Pirates, like theyshould have some team should be

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trying to get their closers likenow the relievers like they have
no chance, but I think that justthe slim chance of Diamondbacks
have it's like it might be a last second.
So and then right now it's trying to guess with that
bullpen, but I have no clue. I mean it's it ginkles the is
the best option, but it's not a good one.

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I still don't think it's like a 50% chance that he ends up being
the closer, but I think he has the highest odds.
I. I assume, James, that they give
Lawler run somewhere the second-half of the season to see
what they have going into next year.
Yeah, Is he? How healthy is he?
Yeah, they they might. I think that if they were just

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doing a little bit better, he would be more likely to get
dealt to another team. But I also think Adrian Del
Castillo could be a a catch or two name to keep in mind.
Like they they could end up playing him pretty regularly as
like the DH or first base or just kind of move them around in
those spots if they move Naylor.And he's been hitting for a ton
of power this year. I think I'm kind of with Jeff, I

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think the D backs are going to not do it immediately, but
they'll wait until the last minute because I, I don't think
they're just going to like completely send it in right now
as as waving the flag. And I also think that they might
still be able to compete even ifthey make some trades, you know,

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and that might be a little bit beneficial for them to have
something like eyeing in the future and still be able to
battle out someone to share. I think Lawler is going to be
that guy that, you know, I seen,I seen some ads this weekend for
him already start trickling in anticipating Suarez, you know,
getting traded. But he is hurt currently right
now, right? He he had the hamstring injury.

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Yeah. And I think obviously he's going
to be that big guy, you know, but it's probably going to be
some, some random guy like BlazeAlexander picking up a whole
bunch of PT where we'll we'll bepicking up for 3 bucks and be
like, that was the best pickup Ihad of the year.

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The Guild is in the in the housetoo.
Andrew Geller. What's up, buddy?
When you show up with your own drops.
He's unbelievable, this guy, youwant the whole thing play out.

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Hey. What's up?
What's up, buddy? Thanks for joining us.
Appreciate you taking the time out and and it's, it's going to
be fun. Yeah.
So we just head up the Diamondbacks.
We're just going through Bob's idea here of kind of just going

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through each team and think about something interesting
we're ready to talk about. Like Phil said, Bob said they
could cause havoc if they just start selling off.
Phil thinks they should do it immediately and we'll talk about
guys that might make an impact if if, if they do get to that
point where they start trading off guys.

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Do you have any thoughts about the D backs here, Gelli?
Then they're going to sell off quickly.
Kind of wait until like maybe you know, 5-6 games after the
break and and see how they do. Yeah, I think I'll give it that
week, whatever the ten days after.
But yeah, I could see them sell them because you got a lot of
bidders for Suarez, man. They're going to get a nice
package. I think in return, Gallon could

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probably go too. I was seeing, you know, they're
both on the last year's right, so.
Yep. And and Naylor and Suarez
probably is the best power bat that could be put on the market
or will be put on the market. And there are teams that need
bats. 100% he's anyone want to guess where he is dating back to

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last year's All Star break? We pretty much got a clean 160
games for everyone. Rob, I know you look trivia and
I was ready for it, but where's Suarez rank home run wise since
last year's All Star break? 3rd.
Yeah, put it close. 4th 51 fifty131 ribbies in 160 games.

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That is fucking crazy, right? Everyone knows Suarez, that is
it's. Wild.
That's that's that's some beefy numbers right there like.
Didn't have them on any of my teams.
Nope, you ain't kidding, man. You know he's going to tank my
batting average with a 274 average during that span too.

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That is nuts. I don't think we talk about this
guy enough. That is pretty, pretty
impressive in that span for sure.
And anything else on the you guys got anything else on the
deep Actually you want to just move on to the the athletics?
Move on. Cool.

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All right, Athletics of Sacramento, I don't know.
They're they're obviously not going to be selling off.
They're obviously giving their guys some run here.
They're younger kids. I think the biggest probably
some interesting infield battles, right.
And Jihar's coming off the IL. How much can he influence into

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some PT with Urias and Max Muncie?
Gallo's been sent down. So who wants to take the lead
here with the Athletics and callout anything they want to start
with? I, I guess the only name I kind
of want to talk about is Denzel Clark.
I don't think he might not be super useful rest of season, but

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I think at one point things are going to click and he could go
off. Whether that's next year or the
year after, I don't know when itwill be, But he's got all the
tools to just have to bring the K rate down.
But the defense is so great thatit gives him a decent floor.
So maybe not this year, maybe heshows something in September,

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but I think it's ADC pick next year.
I think he'd be a great, great pick.
Are you suggesting Phil, we're going to hear about 200 podcasts
this winter? That makes.
An analogy to. Another player who last winter
there were questions around his bat but had an elite glove and
ended up having a pretty good season and why it is possible he
has a similar breakout that year.

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Yes, I think that's a possibility.
I think 200 might be selling it,Sure.
I think it might be 300. Well it depends how many
podcasts Rob does this winter, so I'm setting it at 200 I want.
It I want it to be the first oneto mention it on on one of our
Rods podcast stuff. James, how insane is that
analogy going for next year? Let's say not not in the next

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three months. Well, I know Denzel Clark's from
Canada, so yeah. So I have to bring him up.
Yeah, I, I mean, he is, he's like 2 years old or he's already
two years older than PCA is currently.
So, but I, I mean, Phil's right about the like the power and the

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speed are, are clearly there. He's just working through kind
of changing his swing a little bit.
Like the ground ball rates obviously at at times have been
crazy high and still a little too high.
But yeah, if he can, if he can kind of get the swing in in a
more kind of consistent spot where he's lifting it a little

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bit, I I definitely see where Phil's coming from.
Yeah, he's got that interesting thing going on where it's like
he's also fly ball, like he's not getting any line drives,
like he's got more fly ball. I mean with the high number of
ground balls. And then it's like kind of just
like pop ups almost. Yeah, PCA was someone I I mean

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we can you know what's I mean with him is all these high
contact guys, when do they when do you look at him?
It's actually on the list. Hopefully for the process.
I'll see if I get to it. But it's when do these, when do
you kind of buy into like the Alfonso Soriano's or the Javi
Baez in the world and when do you get the hell out 'cause

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they, they obviously have a break point and few of these
guys ever have a long career. But I don't know if we should be
looking at spring training contact percentage or stuff like
that for some of these guys and hope for the breakout and that
something will occur or if it's just never going to happen.

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Jeff, have you, are you getting into any of the other bat speed,
bat bat stuff? I know you've, you know, love to
talk about the, the squared up rate and have you had the chance
to look at the like the angles and all that kind of fun stuff?
I'm going to kind of stay away from it just because with some
of the other stuff we have is now we have like 2 years of it

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instead of comparing 1/2 season to 1/2 season and I think we can
make more out of the other one. I think like Jordan said, he
took too much information off it, just like half your data and
didn't regret it enough. I think there's a lot we can
learn from stuff that's already out now that we have multiple
years of information on it. So and especially I think

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there's a lot to be done since AAA is starting to put some of
their numbers out. If you could do a lot of AAA,
the Major League stuff with the savant stuff and seeing what's
comparable there for people breaking out.
So I think that's where the mostdata is.
The other ones, if it was like the only thing and we haven't
had any recent changes, I, I would jump all into it.
But otherwise I think I'm more interested in taking the other

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new information we have and justsince the information has
doubled in the last year that use it instead.
How did everyone feel about NickKurtz?
Just just just AI know this really doesn't apply the
second-half, but if if we would if we were drafting right now

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for next year, you firmly put him in the top five first
baseman. Oh, I'm.
Not prepared for this question. Yeah, on the fly, on the fly.
Phil, run your projections for next year right now and tell us
where he comes out. He's got to be close though.
I can, I can do rest of the season.

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I think, I think I saw somebody comes.
Out I can see them. He comes out 9th right now.
OK all. Right.
So that's not the case. But yeah, like it's different if
I'm projecting for rest of season versus for next year
where he's going to have more growth than like a Matt Olson,

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for example, or or Pete or like I could see him going in that
range with, I don't know, Alonso, Alonso, Olson, Freeman
somewhere in there. I mean, Pete Alonso's pretty
fucking good. I don't have to tell at least
two people on this call about that.

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Here's a question about the A's before we move on.
Last year there were a ton of rumors about Mason Miller being
traded, even though it's obviously dominant last year.
If we start seeing closers goingsince there just aren't the high
end starting pitchers for a crazy return to the A's, flip
Miller to somebody. He's gonna be 30 by the time

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they move to Vegas 2930. I think they have to be blown
away. I think that would make calls.
But I think they would trade them in a heartbeat if they
could get some kind of starter. Like, I don't know, the Brewers
need them. But I'm just thinking someone
like maybe like Logan Henderson get a starter like that and
maybe some other bats, someone that's buried.

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But I think that they would trade them.
They would have to have some kind of top talent.
And I think right now they'd probably be looking for pitching
instead of hitting, I think, butthey can have some injuries and
but it looks like the actually the hitters are pretty solid
right now for a couple years. Yeah.
I'd give up Frankie Montas and Brett Beatty.

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But they like the Mets. Mets aging starters.
Let's ship them out 100%. I do think that's what I, I
mean, Rob and I have talked about this.
I do think that's what we're going to see at the trade
deadline is teams like the Mets,like the Yankees, like the Red
Sox, like the Jays that need a top quote UN quote top end

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starters are are going to realize there are no top end
starter. So they're going to try to build
super bullpens. So you can say, well, the Mets
don't need a close or they have a great closer.
They'll get a dominant 8th inning guy and try to just have
a shutdown. Bullpen I think is the answer.
I have a question about the starting pitching.
Have you guys been actively looking to sit them in

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Sacramento number one? And Phil, I'd like to bring this
back up again because the last time you you drew on launch
angle with us, we talked about Jeffrey Springs, right?
And he's still like he's still putting together even just like
his last six starts by two, 480 RA, a .94 WHIP, but it's got a
476S, you know, and a 16% K rate.
But he's still putting together these solid start to his season.

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To me, I think overall had been one of the most surprising
starting pitching seasons, like,you know, a surface line, but
how have you guys been handling Sacramento pitches?
Because the park factor there has definitely been beefy.
Yeah, I was actually going to ask you guys like, like, for

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instance, I like Jack Perkins a lot as a prospect and I think
he's got a bright future as longas like the ballpark doesn't
mess him up. So like, I just don't even know
even if I really think this guy is great and he might be in the
rotation the rest of the year. Like should I even care about
that? Because I I have been sitting

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them for home starts, especiallyif I know it's a a day game.
I don't think, I don't think thepark is that bad.
Like I know if you look at the the run factors, it's it's
pretty high, but. Like I think the problem with it

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are the walks and strikeouts. Like it's 4th in terms of walks,
it's 20th in terms of strikeouts.
So if you do the differential, it's one of the highest.
And I think it might be just themound messing with with pitchers
because other than that, yes, it's a hitter's part.
But if you get rid of that part,like it's not, I don't think it

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scores like, I think it's the second group with with like
Fenway, with Camden, with DodgerStadium, I guess.
Because like on the The Stack cast park factors, it's like
right next to Coors. Yeah, but that's like half a
season. So I think, and I think a lot of

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that, like for home runs, it's 6th along with like Yankee
Stadium and like great, Great American ballpark is 7th in
terms of home run. So like it kind of shows that
that's still a really small sample.
I, I think it's kind of messing more with older pitchers.
Like I wouldn't be worried aboutprospects there, but it seems to

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be like the guys I've been complaining about, the
monitoring, they have been the older pitchers who've been used
to throwing on Major League mounts for, I know, 10-15 years.
What's what's the away team ERA look like though?
That's what I'm curious because the the A's starting pitching
stinks, right? So it's hard to to really.
In terms of like, let's see the I've, I've been kind of keeping

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track of the A's Wobutt home andthey are, they're 8th.
So like it's a below average match up, but not one that
you're really trying to activelyavoid.
My my gut, and it's not based onany data, is I feel better right

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now starting a above average pitcher in Coors against the
Rockies than I do an above average pitcher in Oakland
against the A's. I think that's, I mean the the
Rockies are 16th in woba at home.
They're horrendous so. Yeah, yeah.
I don't know that I it's not a particularly provocative

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statement, even though it's not really data-driven.
Like if I if I go in order, it'sit's in home woba, it's Dodgers,
Red Sox, Jays, Phillies, Yankees, the backs, Tigers and
then Athletics. And I think that seems, I mean,
it is just half a season, but I think just glancing at it, I

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think the Jays are probably a little bit high, but like the
Phillies, Yankees and D backs are matchups I'd I'd be more
likely to avoid than than the Sacramento matchup.
The one thing with like the parkfactors is you have to have guys
that throw in both stadiums and I don't know the exact
percentage. Maybe I could ask around the
Dark Overlord, but Luis Severino's numbers are having a

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heavyweight on the park factors this year.
So I mean, he he's the one that's thrown the most at home
in there. So he is weighing that park
factor a ton. Because most of the other ones,
it's like if one guy just comes in and throws one start and
that's all they have in Sacramento.
Like it's not, we don't get that's why park factors take
forever. But if you just have one guy

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that has some extreme differences, it's going to have
a huge impact on like especially1/2 season like this.
What's how's this savant on though?
Like I assume for home runs and and singles and all that stuff,
they use batterball data, don't they?
I would hope so. Probably not the night, not the
night to ask Mike Petriello, butall the stuff's going on is but.

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It's interesting what Severino though.
I mean his FIP at home is 435. In a way it's 429 X FIP is 5 is
a 435 at home 513, you know way.So I mean, I think those numbers
aren't aren't as you know, a little they're a little closer
as as as the surface numbers are.
You know that. Depends how how they calculate

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it. I mean, that's what I get.
Fan graphs like Appleman. Just like you can't have
anything less than three years. He regresses like crazy because
he's just like it. It doesn't take that long to
stabilize with them. I don't know man, I just.
I just feel like I understand why math and and why you need

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sample, but if a park is just showing a specific way, I just
can't completely dismiss it either, I guess.
You know, I'm not going to completely say this is what it
is, but I also just can't completely dismiss it, you know?
I don't know, that's just how I view it.
Jacob Lopez, what does that lookthe rest of the season is, is

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this kid for real? Like is, is he going to stay
being this kind of effective? He's been pretty dynamite, you
know, I don't know, I've been rolling him out there.
Some stuff underneath the hood looks like, you know, if you're
into the bot stuff that the the modeling, they don't like him at
all. But the swing of strike rate,

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you know, chase rate, zone contact, they all look pretty
good. What's the outlook for Jacob
Lopez rest of Season I? Think it's just fine.
It's just a guy that you throw in there and hope for the best.
Kind of like Jose Soriano, maybe?

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OK, I think Jeff kind of nailed him.
I can't remember if it was this week or a couple of weeks ago in
his in his fab column at at fan grafts, which is he's a 27 year
old who throws 9091 and walks too many guys.
So he's going to have a high WHIP.
But you know, we need pitchers. So at a certain point you got to

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use the guys who are pitching well, but he's limited to some
extent. It kind of goes back, though, to
the like, if you're worried about the park, you're scared to
start him home and then like anypitcher on the road has a lower
chance at a win. So like, when are you starting

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him? That's kind of been the.
Yeah, and they do. And.
It's it's, it's the reason I dropped Sereno, because even if
I I liked him coming through theseason, he's been horrible.
And I'm like, if he turns it around, when am I really
starting at him? So I end up dropping him a a
while ago. And I think it's kind of the

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same with Lopez where we're kindof trying to figure out like,
when do you feel good about starting him?
And I think it's, he's a hard one to use.
But yes, I get I like I know in fifteens, we need pictures at
some point. You have to, but I, I think he's
he's, he's hard to start. He's going to have great stars
and he's going to get blown up at times.
Yeah, Oakland is a nice story and they obviously have some

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really nice pieces in place. They have a 418 winning
percentage, like they're going to win 66 games this year.
Yeah. Last question, Who's going to
make the next start at SP5? Will it be JT Jane or Jack
Perkins or somebody else? No, you answer Rob.

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Well, James. James, yeah.
I mean, you have a better opinion, James Seems like
Perkins. I mean, I, I think Perkins is
more likely to be AI mean. I think they're both gonna,
they're gonna try to make them both starters.
But I think like, I think Perkins is gonna be like their
number 3 or #2 starter when theystart getting good.
And I think Gin would be like their number 4 #5 starter.

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Any other Oakland prospects who may be up in the next six weeks?
That is important for us. Nobody.
Nobody worth talking about? OK, gotcha.
All right, cool, let's go to Atlanta Braves.
Very happy to see them having a fucking dud season.
I'll just get that off my chest real quick.

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Here's the here's I'll start, I'll start Atlanta Rob Cutt,
Albies in 15 team. Last week Main event, Main
event. Should Albies be owned in a 15
team league right now? Love that move.
Probably not, it just depends ifyou can find a decent
replacement like I dropped Harris.

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Wow, you dropped Harris. That's nice.
That's GOAT. Maybe this is a great.
Odd. These are These are.
Awesome. But the one is this like the
worst was like, well, I only putin a bid and it was India was
out there, which is not like a huge improvement, but I was
like, which one am I actually thinking about using?
Which one's not going to kill meand which one actually will give
me? Like I'm treating Harris, I have

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him on too many teams and I'm just treating him as like an IO
slash. And if I need to use him for a
hurt outfielder, that's what he goes in as.
Like I don't that's where he's on my team.
Like I can use him as an injury replacement, but that's it.
And I was just like, India givesme more injury replacements as
different positions. So I'm going to go with that.
And that was the only, it wasn'tlike, oh, I'm just getting rid

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of Harris, but it was that move up in a 15 and I was just like,
I'm fine with it. It was like he was the better
player. So I'll look to see if I can
make some other improvements on some other teams that way.
But it's just you rarely get that chance.
But Terrace has just been that'sjust been a disaster.
It's I don't want to know what he's cost me in position

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placements. If I had to just use someone
else. I don't even.
Yeah, I think he's the worst healthy pick of fantasy
baseball. This.
Year yeah, and Jeff's right, I just kept rolling him out there
just just because like, you know, just blindly and I don't
want to even figure that out tooJeff of what I could have
replaced him with. And that's that's what I was

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thinking with Alby's. You know, I and every time I
look to, you know, and the projections still like, but they
had just like I heard that his last two seasons, you know, his
800 plate appearances and he's batting 236 with a 659 OPS and
an 84 WRC plus like that's awful.
You know, so the only thing I'd say about Albie's other than the

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name brand and that's a sunk cost.
Like what? Where you took him is obviously
gone. He leads all players in plate
appearances at second base this year.
So it's wild. As bad as he's been, they play
him every fucking day. And you can say, but he goes
over 4 every fucking day and there's no doubt that's what he

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does. But he plays every day.
And in a world of like Mauricio and Kim, who are my two other
middle infielders on the team, I've got him on, it's like I
don't need another O for four. But he plays every day.
And the right answer is what youdid, Rob.
I hope so. That's the only argument for him

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is he keeps playing. 380th on the Razz ball play Raider, yeah.
That's that. For an argument for both those
guys, for Harris and Alby's based on my numbers, ignoring
everything about them before theseason.
So just based on their bad ball data from this year, they're

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still rosterable. I mean, they come out as like
hitter 1:50-ish. And that's based on EV Max, EV K
percentage, spring speed, all that stuff.
So yes, I mean, they're nowhere near where what they, what we
paid for them. If you use what they've actually

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performed, they're a lot worse than that.
But I think there is some bad luck in there, some bad Babbitt
luck, some bad just bad juju with the whole roster, all that
stuff. But based on everything, I think
there's still a chance they kindof turn around.
They're not may not to be top 50or top 100 daters for the rest
of the season, but I think at least to a point where they're

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still roster ball. Maybe it's tilted too much decay
percentage for Albee, but he's 18th percentile on exit
velocity. How good is that?
How is that good batted ball theater?
I mean, I'd have to pull up, look at the exact formulas, but
like it's not good, but it's roster ball into 15.

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Like it's it in in in twelves. I think they're an easy drop in
in fifteens. Like I'd roster them over like
Matt Veerling, which is someone that some people are picking up
or. Well, he doesn't play second
base though. I I wouldn't consider that a
swap. I put Casey Schmidt in there.
Yeah, but I'm just. I I put Lenin Sosa.

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Yeah, I'm, I'm sorry. Yeah, I'd have Lennon over him.
Or at least that's kind of. Yeah, I'd have Lennon over them,
but like, what about? 90th percentile EV in the 9th
percentile of all baseball. Yeah, I mean, I I get all that,

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but the kind of players that we're picking up in 15th to
replace them, I mean, it depends.
And I mean, it depends on the league.
There's some leagues, right? Dropper might have better
options, sure, but like, say, how about like Jake Cronenworth?
Who? Jake Cronenworth.
I'd rather have Jake Cronenworth.

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OK. Like that's where I kind of draw
the line where I'd rather have all these.
I think you have to roster him though in 15.
I mean you can't. I mean, I I, I I wouldn't drop
him just cause like what Rob wassaying, he's getting everyday at
bats. He can't be this terrible all
season and and Harris. He's been terrible for 840
played appearances. Andrew.
Yeah. When can I so you're?

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Saying he's so you're saying he's do Rob, he's.
Do that's right? I know the do factor, hey.
Look at look at Harris. Pop system.
Harris every second-half like goes bonkers.
It's crazy. You just.
You know what I mean? This guy, he shouldn't be
drafted high next year obviously, but it just might be
a guy that I don't know, takes forever to get it going and then

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watching the second-half he he likes up.
Alby's did. Alby's did win me 120 grand last
year, so please show a little respect about his last meeting.
So where the hell does Atlanta go from here?
Like Ozuna is obviously a free agent.
I assume that he will be dealt to somebody who can use ADH.

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But like, holy shit, to go from a dominant team to just a hot
mess in Atlanta. Now, if you assume this is who
Alby's and Harris are, this is ahot mess.
You have a superstar and a Cunha.
You have Riley, who I don't knowwhat the fuck Riley is, and it's

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just a mess of a team. Yeah, it's it's I've always said
it. It's if they've always had a
problem with depth, you know, and they just gotten away with
it because for several years their guys didn't miss the
fucking game. And then but when these guys are
missing games now, and that's why I'll attack a a on is that
the depth has been horrible. Like with the Eli Whites and the

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and the and the fucking Nick Allen's, you know, like they
have nothing to go to when theseguys are a struggle.
And like you said, like course I'll be just going to go back
out there. Who is going to, you know,
challenge him? Nacho, Nacho, Nacho Nacho
cheese. He should Nacho is going to be
you know, there's a nice, nice pick up this weekend to I think

(35:43):
he shows something with with suband O'Reilly.
He'll show a lot. But yeah, Rob, no, I don't know.
You know, I don't want to fully shit on the Braves too much
because I, I've done a lot of itthis season, but I, I think they
got a lot of problems going in the future.
I want to, I want to look into this.
I don't know, I think these early contracts may just be a
little bit, they might be subduing these, these kids a

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little bit, these young kids with that, that first contract,
you know, like what's the motivation?
It's tough to say if it's like the chicken or the egg, Like is
it the type, the type of guy that's not going to like work
that hard is also maybe because it's the yearly contract versus
like, you know, I don't know, but I mean it does.
It's not like a across the boardtype of thing for guys that take

(36:31):
those early contracts, But it itdoes seem to, you know, like the
Evan Whites, the John Singletons, the Scott Kingeres,
like there's just a lot of theseexamples.
And like, I feel like Harris, his best year was his rookie
year and it's been slightly worse every single year since
then. And Alby's, Alby's just kind of
has the body type where I would expect him to peak at like 25

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and that's pretty much what he did.
Good point. I think, I think that some of it
might be what you brought up, Rob, like the the lack of
competition, lack of depth. I mean, if you're Harris and
Alby's, then you know that no matter what you're going to play
every fucking day. There might be something to
that. Like it could be the money, but
it could be like if, if they take Ozuna's 60 million,

(37:14):
whatever and they reallocate it to bringing 3 or 4 guys at 4
million who can at least take some at bats, give some rest the
guys or like, yes, they have themoney, but I think all these
guys are competitive to a certain extent.
And if you start sitting, cuz I don't know, Jose Iglesias is, is
playing better than you are, I think like even if you have the
7 million, I think you're going to naturally kind of try to work

(37:38):
hard and get your job back. I think it might be what they've
been missing. Yeah, at least we're Harris.
He's like an all world center fielder.
You know, that's like like a bigthing for the Braves too.
You know, he's consistently in the top metrics in center feel
like. And if you watch him, the kid is
nasty out there, so that that I think.

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The negative war, though, with that defense is pretty.
Pretty 100%, you're right. You're right 100%, which is
wild, you know, and James mentioned like his best year was
his rookie year. He got his extension in August
of his rookie year, you know, and then since then, like that
second year was was great. And I don't know if it's just
still an injury, but like his last three seasons, the 92 WRC

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plus, you know, and the 710 OPS,it's just very marginal.
Like, you know, it's. I also saw a video before the
year where Lawrence Butler was calling out Michael Harris for
not working out enough like during the offseason, like a
playful like call out. But I saw that like pretty late
in the draft season. And then like I'd already taken

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a few Michael Harris shares and it was too late for me.
But like, I it does he does. I mean, I know he's making these
plays out in the field, but it does kind of look like maybe
he's not like the greatest shape, like.
Of of his life. Interesting hustle plus oh man
this is going to change the game.
You know it, there's so many pluses out there, but that one I

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think will truly be the one thatI want to see the most.
I. Think the I think the other big
decision and Thoughtless has to make this month is assuming
Ozuna's gone, do they want to keep both catchers or do they
try to cash in Sean Murphy? Because a Tampa Bay will give
something up for for Murphy. But if you've opened up the DH

(39:26):
spot, maybe you want to go into next season with both catchers.
So I think that'll be interesting what they do there.
I think it'd be smart to keep them both.
That's just my personal opinion.They've both been really good.
Murphy is when he's healthy, he's still, you know, been
really, really strong, 120 WRC plots and he's drilling the ball
now. I would I would lean into

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keeping both of them. It's it's if you could get 3 of
Tampa's arms from the miners andlike James can throw out names
for Sean Murphy. Because I assume in a, a world
where like Bryce Elder has to pitch right now that Tampa has
three guys that they could add tomorrow that would suddenly
become real prospects for Atlanta.

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Do you, do you just cash that inbecause you have to?
Yeah, Murphy's owes 60 + 1,000,000.
Yeah, so, so, so it's not a perfect fit for Tampa.
I I acknowledge that. It's whether Atlanta will eat
some money to get prospects fromTampa.
True. I don't think the Braves long
prospects though, like with the contracts they got was signing

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for the next three or four years.
I think they're committed to that and like I think they're
going to chug up they can for Zuna and and Iglesias and just
kind of retool for next year andgive another shot hopefully
with. With.
Yeah, healthy Ronaldo think theymean.
I think they're looking for guyswho can help help them over the
next two years, which I doubt the Rays are willing to give up

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for Murphy. But.
Their catching's been very bad, Tampa.
Yeah. Since last year's also break,
how many strikeouts does Grant Holmes have A.
Fucking random question, Rob. He's 23rd in all of baseball.

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Really. A strikeout since the last All
Star break. Yeah, OK, pretty impressive.
Great question. Right ahead of Chris Bassett.
Jesus. Him being 24th is also pretty
impressive, not going to lie. 175 Not too bad of a number
there from good old Grant Holmeswith a 369.
Sierra been pretty good. Yeah, I had, I had one more on

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the Braves. Chris Sales should not be
rostered. I think he's 77% owned.
I dropped him in his second and I think someone I saw someone
pick up where I drop him. I don't know why.
They got picked up 7 times this this weekend.
Yeah, I think it's, I think it'scrazy they put the how quickly
they put him in the 6060 DIL. I mean, there's no chance he's

(41:54):
come back when he's first eligible because otherwise they
would just waited, especially topick up boys like Hunter
Stratton or whoever. It was like you're not making
the move if you think there's any chance he's coming back
around that date. So I think like early to
mid-september is the earliest wecan expect and that's like three
starts. Yeah, and I, I don't think this
is like degrom last year. I think it's because it's a rib

(42:14):
injury. I think that they're more likely
to say take the whole winter to get fully healthy.
I don't think they need to like get back on the mound and see if
you still have it. It it's like those fucking ribs
are cracked. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. That's yeah, exactly I and.
They and they will be. They'll be 35 games out of first

(42:34):
place by then, so there's nothing to come back for.
I'm just sucking up to the Mets fans before we get to the Mets.
Perfect. Yeah, I'm not.
I'm not convinced the Braves aresellers.
I mean, I think they'll wait until the deadline, but who
can't see? I mean, the Braves selling, when
was the last time we've seen that happen?
You know, they play. I'm looking at their schedule
out. They got a tough schedule out,

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you know when they come back, Yeah.
But even if even if they if theywin 12 in a row, they're gonna
be like 7 games back of the wildcard.
Well, they play the Giants. The Giants are ahead of them.
Yeah, like. Yeah, there's so many teams
ahead of them though, like thereis what, 6 games they have to
cash up, catch up to? Yeah, I mean, they'd have to

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win, you know, go like 9 and 4 the next 13 games or so,
whatever it is before to. I mean the Diamondbacks.
Won five more games. The Diamondbacks have five more
wins than they do, and we thought Diamondbacks should be
sellers. I'm just saying, let's say the
Braves are 5 1/2 behind the wildcard.
Are they really going to sell everybody?
I I don't know. But to be 5 1/2 behind, they

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have to go, like you say, have 13 games.
They have to go like 12:00 and 1:00 because one of those teams
is going to go on those. Like, say the Padres and Giants
go 6:00 and 7:00 or whatever, like they're still going to be
way back. Yeah, they're, they're closer to
Pittsburgh than they are Cincinnati.
And Cincinnati is not making thefucking playoffs.

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I mean playoffs. Playoffs.
There we go, Jesus. I think we can move on there.
You go Baltimore Orioles up on the deck next.
Also, probably we have a lot of guys that they're going to ship
out. Ryan O'hearn probably leaves the
list here. Got Ryan Mccausal's rehab and I
don't know what the plans will be for him.

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Would he be a got a look to moveto?
What do we got here for the Orioles?
I don't want. To upset those swervy so I won't
say anything. Dude James in prospect community

(44:39):
is Baltimore now a cautionary tale like don't like prospect
list fly forever but they fuckedup or is it should have signed a
picture but some bad luck and they've played this perfectly.
How do how do like when you talkto your sources and folks in the
prospect community? How did they like serious people

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not us joking around in in the discord.
How do they talk about Baltimoreright now?
I think everyone still thinks they're just really, you know,
top five, top ten in terms of scouting and developing and and
drafting and stuff like that. They just kind of, I think they

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just kind of went all in on trying to make this just this
sort of almost dynasty type of thing without being willing to
supplement the way the Dodgers have around that by spending
money. And it's it's been, I know it's
been like referred to. You can tell there's infighting
within the Orioles and like there's like unnamed sources and

(45:44):
stuff and articles calling it like a vanity project and stuff.
I just, everyone still has utmost respect for the way they
develop guys. They just haven't kind of
combined that with the filling in the roster with with veterans
aspect of things and it's probably going to cost people
their drafts eventually. Is it true that they drafted 6

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more catchers this week? That that almost.
I mean, that almost seemed like kind of a middle finger to their
fans a little bit. But yeah, I mean, that Ike
Irish, the guy they took in the first round, like he's not a
catcher, probably he's, but I mean Samuel Besio you could
maybe say the same thing about. So they definitely just, I know

(46:29):
they're really proud of the amount of talent they got in
this draft and how they played the system with all the bonuses
and stuff like that, like that. That's kind of their wheelhouse.
That's where they really thrive.But then like the rest of it,
like after the draft is is kind of where the.
Prospect guy and I'll stop monopolizing this, but isn't
there a problem when you keep drafting guys who are catchers

(46:51):
but not really catchers, but youdon't quite decide what position
they are? So then they're kind of
suspended in animation, just waiting, not quite good enough
to play a position but can't play catcher.
It's a weird. Well, and then they like they
traded Kyle Stowers because he was a spare piece, like he was a
worse prospect than, you know, 5or 6 guys they had at the time

(47:13):
that were going to play similar positions.
But like that, that could easilyhappen with all these catchers,
slash corner outfielders, slash first baseman types, like
whoever is second or third, it'sgoing to get flipped at some
point. But that person could still end
up being like one of the best guys.
So I mean, it's, it's going to be a very fascinating thing to
look back on like 5-10 years from now 'cause like they, they

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definitely are good at bringing in talent.
And then they just kind of struggled after that.
Aspect and their best player, Raymond Lauriano, will narrate
the documentary on the dynasty. Of the of.
The Baltimore Oreos. I mean, that's a guy like, how
is he? Every week I look at his ads in
the online championship, you know, and I do the fab thing and

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I'm just like, how is he? Like when when are people going
to get on board with Loriana? It took them a while to get even
on board in the main event when this guy just been an absolute
horse for like pretty much the last year and.
He's still not 100% owned in theOCS. 57 Oh yes.
Wild it's. Wild.
He's playing because he's not just playing every day like Jeff
does the analysis. He's like hitting second, third,

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4th, 5th. Like he's hitting.
He moves, but he's moving prime spots in the lineup every day.
100 percent, 357 woba, 11 homers, I mean, 70 run plus
ribbies and in in in 68 games. It's just been his.
His production's been incredible.
I'm shocked at that, that number.

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What what do we got here for Kobe Mayo?
Any hope for him in second-half with with an O'hearn move?
Does it have to take O'hearn andMalcaster to be moved to see him
in in a spot here playing everyday I'll.
Take I I don't know. I don't know if he's good.

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I know the prospects. James probably will rank him
higher just with projections. I mean, Ramon Urias projects
better and that might be the sign right there.
I don't. I just think the Orioles need to
decide who they are. And it's like no team is just
kind of taking the prospects, have them and without spending

(49:28):
money, not traded them away. Like they need to go with like
the Tampa model or they need to spend money.
And it's like we've got all these great looking things and
it's just like the management's just like looking at the roster
and jacking off to themselves with it.
But they're it's like it's not doing anything and it's just
like they need to make a decision if they're going to win

(49:50):
or not. And I just don't think they they
don't want to win. And maybe it's going to take
them getting AGM in here that's actually like, OK, we're going
to make some tough decisions andactually sell some of these guys
off for some pictures and try toactually win.
But I think they would prefer just to look at this roster and
look at all these top picks and put their trophy in for having

(50:11):
the number one Baseball America freaking prospect group and then
move on with their lives. The one thing they did spend
money though, but like they spent 15 on Charlie Morton, they
spent 8.5 like Morton's been better, but they spent 8.5 on

(50:31):
Gary Sanchez when they like didn't really have a need.
They spent on Tyler O'Neill. Like, I think they just have to,
I mean, I don't know, James, if you can agree or disagree with
this theory, but what I've been seeing the, and I've said this
in the Discord before, like overthe last like couple years, I've
noticed it seems like prospects need about like 500 play

(50:51):
appearances in the majors to either figure out how to hit
Major League pitching or at thatpoint you can decide, no, that
guy's not going to make it. Like we've seen it with with
like Cheerio, Jackson Holidays, kind of just getting there now,
a bunch of like great prospects who were terrible in the first
half and then just had like a September breakout.

(51:14):
Like PCA took probably somethinglike that 500 play appearances
before he could. But it seems like the Orioles
like they player guy for 50 playappearances and then they decide
at that point if he's good or not.
I, I kind of I it part of it, it's like, I wonder if they're
just worried about their trade value, like dipping really.

(51:34):
Like it's like they're almost trying to them down before it
can hurt their trade value too much or something like that.
Yeah. But then they leave them down in
Tripoli for like 2 years and then they have no value after
that anyways. And I get the point that they
were kind of in between where they're trying to win.
So they don't want to like have like an anchor in their lineup.
But that's where you kind of have to decide, do we want to

(51:55):
develop all the all the prospects we have or do we want
to win? And they've kind of decided they
want to win, but then if you want to do that, then you have
to deal with some of those prospects.
Otherwise their value is just dying in in AAA.
And it just seems like I don't know to me, but it just seems
like a lot more teams are willing to have a prospect up
playing not all the time then, you know, in in the minors or

(52:18):
just rather have them over an older veteran.
You know, like you had to match with Aricio, like he's not
playing every day, but they're comfortable with him up at the
level like getting wrapped with the team playing like Jason's
Dominguez early in the season with the same way, you know,
there's a lot some stretches, you know where they treat him
like that, but. I think with those teams what

(52:39):
they're doing though is they have like like the Mets, they
have four guys that play every day and then they have like 9
guys that rotate between 5 spots.
The Orioles are playing most guys every day, and then Kobe
Mayo is just barely playing. Yeah, but he should be playing
over ureas. I know that Urias has had a
fine. He's had a fine career.

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Like he really has WRC plus YS that he deserves to be on the
field. But also in the same vein, his
value is like the utility player, I think.
And it's fucking stupid that they would play him over Kobe
Mayo. And I had the opportunity to the
last time where they had a, a play to play and stretch where
they could have gotten Mayo. And I thought it was absolutely
dumb. They chose to go to urea route.

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I mean, Mayo, it's a small sample, but it's last last 2-3
weeks. It's looked a lot better.
I think that's something that's got a bit like be be fed into a
little bit, you know? I don't with their pitching
staff. It doesn't matter what the fuck
Mayo is doing. Their pitching staff is not a
play a pitching staff that's close to a playoff team right

(53:42):
now. The other thing is if Adley
Ruchman at catcher is A2 WAR player instead of a 6-7 WAR
catcher who's like a fucking superstar catcher like these,
these are the things that that are going to swing this
franchise. Yeah, he ate whatever Alby ate
in the second-half of last year and they haven't been the same.

(54:05):
He's been so bad. And we all thought it was the
hand injury and it just, I don'tknow, like catcher wise, like
wrote like fantasy wise, catcherwise.
Next year he's just going to be either of great value or like,
man, why did they even take thisfalling pick?
You know, because he's already, I could see, I don't know, maybe

(54:27):
there'll there'll be a lot of people interested in him, but
I'm not thinking about him. But you know that he has the
highest EV of his career this year and the highest barrel
percentage. Yeah.
And the. Highest hard hit percentage?
In terms of fantasy, Rob and I talked about this on Launch
Angle a few weeks ago. Assume Felix Batista is traded.

(54:48):
Is there somebody who we should all be stashing right now who
you feel confident will stay on the team and get saves down the
stretch? Like Sir Anthony, I mean, I
think like, I don't know, like the way they're built.
I think he's the best option. I also just like, I don't know,
the more I thought about this like what do I have Felix for

(55:09):
two more years cheaply. Yeah, I was looking.
I don't I'd. I'd be surprised.
Traded. Yeah, I would be shocked if he
got traded too, like because like as we were just saying,
like they kind of shown that they want to win, right.
So I don't see a reason why. But just to play Rob's game, if
he did get moved, I would like Sir Anthony unless he got moved
too. Yeah, I mean, I, so I don't

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think it's a good bullpen to be stashing like in the next two
weeks because I think the, I think there's a 25% chance like
they're an analytically inclinedfront office and cashing in
closures, if people are paying for closures is smart, you know,
savvy sabermetrics front office.But if you're trading him, why
don't you trade 31 year old Sir Anthony?

(55:52):
Somebody's going to pay something for him and he's a
fungible piece. So I, I don't know, there's an
obvious guy and I don't know that he gets traded.
So I don't think it's one of thebest bullpens to be stashing in
my opinion. And Soto and Sir Anthony are
both free agents. So.
So like next would be like, I mean no Cano, like like there's

(56:14):
there's Kedridge maybe to keep him.
He has a a club option that they're probably not going to
pay, so maybe he's the guy. I don't know.
I could. Yeah, and Cano was just awful
all of a sudden. Yeah, that's Dodo.
Definitely the kind of guy that's going to get moved that
that's someone would be looking for a lefty like him.

(56:34):
Like it. It'd probably be like Keegan,
Keegan Aiken, who's the who's the next one if you if.
You, I've been waiting for that for fucking three years for him
to get some saved. You know, I feel like maybe like
every year except for this year,I was like, oh, maybe Keegan
Aiken for some some of those possible sneak and saves.
You know, this port kill fell onthe wave side.

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All right, let's close the Orioles out.
Let's go to Boston Red Sox oddest team in baseball.
Should we, should we call, should we call somebody in and
have him join the podcast right now?
Rob. It seems like it would be
probably something to do, right?Pointing Guy.
Get the pointing guy in the pod.But yeah, I mean, I think the

(57:18):
biggest thing is Chapman, right?Does he get moved or does he not
get moved? That's probably the biggest
topic for the team fantasy wise for the rest of the season.
And also fucking how good Lucas G Lido has been.
Oh man, yeah. So what's the?
About, about Chapman, I know we kind of like quickly mentioned

(57:40):
on the pod on the on the disc one, I think you disagree with
me. I think there's no chance
Chapman gets dealt and I think there's a better chance that he
loses his job to Bednar or Helsley or someone like that
than. Him getting traded.
I I agree with you, Phil. I think I think that fan base
has been so fucking abused over the last few years.

(58:01):
Yeah, I think that Chapman, Chapman's good, but they're not
getting that much and he is a useful pitcher in any scenario
in a playoff push. So I just, if I'm running the
Red Sox, I don't trade Chapman. I'm I have to buy.
I can't sell that shit. The fan base deserves more.
The fan base just. They just lost their favorite

(58:21):
player, stupid. To say Rob, but.
Like they gave me their best player and their favorite player
and then they got over it in 10 games everyone forgot about.
But but you're, you're getting a, you're getting a couple minor
leaguers for him. You're not getting, you're not
getting like usable pieces for him.
So I agree with Phil. Carl Reagan's, they're not

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getting great. I'm just looking at what a role
that's got the last two times hewas treated and I'm thinking how
could you not try to get someonelike those guys?
No, you have to make the right. The Red The Red Sox seem like
the type of people who will giveyou due credit in 2027.
When the AA prospect comes up and it turns out it's pretty
good, they're going to say well done back then.

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That's where they're headed. It's that.
They've like they've won ten in a row.
They have crochet, they have Giolito's pitching amazing right
now. They have Baio.
They have a great 123. Like if if they and their
bullpen with Chapman, Whitlock is pretty solid.
Like they they add one or two pieces like I want to say like

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that pitters. First baseman.
Yeah, yeah, like I think they can be like they have a legit
shot at the World Series. The easiest single?
Sorry, go ahead. No, it's just, well, basically
just what you said, Like I how everything's gone down within
the last few years like they have, they're the Red Sox, They

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have a chance to get in, a real really good chance to get in and
they have to take it. Like even I even, I think if
they were two or three games back, they'd have to go for it.
The single easiest way for them to improve that team is to
designate for assignment blockerBuehler.
Walker Buehler being off that team and being replaced by
anybody else is an improvement for that team.
That's what they have to do. Yeah, they can't.

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They cannot come out of the break pitching Walker Buehler.
They should. They should trade for Devers.
Oh, no, I, I, but I, I was so excited to get Hicks two weeks
ago. And I think he's cuttable.

(01:00:29):
Like, I don't, I think he's useless.
Yeah, I don't see them. I don't see them trading
Chairman at all, right. I mean, why would they?
No, I could, but I agree with Phil.
I could see them with Bednar the.
One reason they would because the last two times he was
traded, the team got Cole Reagan's and Gliber Torres for
him. And now he's we can argue that

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he might even be better than he was in those two seasons.
Rob if they go three and seven the last 10 games, I think.
That they can. Do you know what they're playing
the next? Out of the no the last the last
10 games. Oh, Oh yeah.
But I mean, in the next 9, they can go one and eight easily with
the Phillies, the Dodgers and I believe Houston.

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So what's what's? What's something interesting on
fantasy wise that we can say about the Red Sox?
Like, what's an actionable thingwe can do about the Red Sox?
Well, I was just getting with Hicks like I'm going to hold
Hicks for now, like I'm not going to drop him yet.
They have 26 saves on the season. 9 of them has gone to
someone other than Chapman and they they went right to him in
his third game. He had a pitch for the team.

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So I'm going to hold them just in case they do trade Chapman
for a fucking monumental piece next season and the season 2.
And just that's what I think thebiggest discussion was about
Hicks, that that's how I saw on the discord and I heard on other
pods. So I'm just going to at least
hold them for 1-2 more weeks andsee and see what happens.
Other than that, I think, yeah, I think we can.

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What was everyone's opinion on Yoshida this weekend?
Like I got him everywhere for some cheap prices.
Is he not that? Is he OK?
Sure. To be a guy that I I can count
on every, every scoring period. I don't do platoon bats.
DH platoon bats. Yeah.
And that's kind of where I stopped my analysis.

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OK, but. I'd rather Mccutchen.
Like, but we don't know yet if he's going to play against
lattes. I don't think he will, but we
haven't seen it yet. So I think it could end up being
a good pick up. I just just based on my my
rosters, I couldn't really take the chance.
Any who? Who if they have to go internal,

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is there anybody that who do they replace Walker Buehler with
if they don't make a trade and you accept that they have to do
something? Sorry, who?
Dicky. Dick Fitz.
Yeah, Dicky Fitz. How?
Has been OK in the minors, but II mean Fitz has been OK when
he's. Yeah, he's been pretty good.

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I mean. James, Chris, if I can sneak
Campbell through for Buck, do you think he has a run in the
second-half? Not really.
Strikeout rates too bit too, toomuch of a problem to what Jeff
was talking about for the process research next year.

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I just, I don't know, I think he's like working through a lot.
Like he's got the whole defense,like he was sent down for
offense and defense. So I just think he's got a lot
going on in his head right now. Yep.
Gotcha, but I I assume we all think Abraham Toro is not the
actual answer for space if they're making a run at the

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playoffs? Got to be bad.
I mean, it depends how many lefties they play in the
playoffs. If you run, if you could run
Romeo Gonzalez out there for thefirst three games again, let's
just say Rodon and Freed, how many other guys would you want
other than Romeo Gonzalez right now?

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But I do think they need someoneto work with him to be a better
sheriff for sure. Yeah, I I know he's picked up
some time here recently versus righty has has to probably come
at the expense of Bregman getting the rest.
They them not wanted to play mayor.
You know on some days. I thought that was a nice little
pick up this weekend. I wasn't so fully bought in that
he was going to continue gettingit.
Plus he's also been not great against Riley's in his career.

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I think they the role they have for him is super good.
But yeah, I think first base could could definitely be an
upgrade for them, but maybe Yoshida could handle that as
he's practicing playing first. Yeah, the one guy I'm kind of
watching is Harrison. I know the team said they're
doing, adding some pitches, working on a ton of stuff, pitch
shape and stuff with him. So I think if they bring him up,

(01:04:57):
I think they think they're done.Like, he's really struggling,
but he's struggling because he'sdoing it, changing a bunch of
stuff. So he's one that I'm keeping an
eye on. Like once the Red Sox think he's
ready for the majors, I'm all in.
How about this? Check this out, right?
Let me frame a a, a possible something that will definitely
not happen. But let's just say maybe it

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does, right? Maybe they bring up Tanner Hawk
to be a reliever like he was several years ago, and he is
fucking unhittable. And they turn and they say, hey,
you know what? Maybe we can do with him and
Hicks closing the game. But no, we do.
Does Tanner Hawk have any other shot at being relevant again?

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It's been a while since he's been kind of good.
Have you shut the door on him completely?
I don't know. Anything's possible.
I wouldn't take the chance. Now I'm just going to yeah, now
when he like came out and threw pretty good I.
Mean, like I said it when it when it happened.
He's not going to give up elevenruns in a game a third time this

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year. Boom.
Exactly. The last two rehab starts were
pretty good, so. Red Sox fans are convinced
they're gonna trade for an ace starting pitcher.
They're like the Mets fans, and I think they're gonna be
disappointed because there is noace starting pitcher.

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There's nobody, even with their farm system that they are going
to trade for. They are gonna get Charlie
Morton. They're gonna get that kind of a
guy, just a guy who can eat someinnings.
They need one more bulk arm and I think they do trade.
I would not be surprised if theyget Bednar.
I wouldn't be surprised if they get Helsley.
Like I think they will trade fora big bullpen arm because I

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don't think there is a starting pitcher they can get that's
going to upgrade that much. I.
Think Charlie is an ace? He's a generational talent.
He is generational talent, says Hall of Famer and national
broadcaster. I just say Chicago Cubs their
next. We're this is the MO Dicas of

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starting pitchers because we want to actually get to strategy
like how do you pull down an overall at some point tonight?
And we're on the Cubs, which I believe starts going to see.
So if we don't start fucking racing through this, this is how
your starting pitcher podcast goes every single fucking week.
It's like I know every single detail about Arizona pitchers,

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Rob. I don't know what's going on in
Washington, though. Yeah, yeah, it's burnout by the
time we get there. So we need to get to the shit
about like you should you give up on your team and how do you
win the overall at some point. So we need to start moving all.
Right, Cubs, anything noteworthyhere?
I mean, their offense has been pretty good through and through,

(01:07:46):
except for Matt Shaw, I guess That quick thing on Matt Shaw
complete. Have we shut the door on him
this year, James? So what do you see him going for
us this season? And yeah, I, I don't have to
rank him anymore and I don't have him on any team.

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So yeah, I don't know. I I know he's been terrible.
He's like one for 22 every week.Yeah, you know, with an
occasional steal. I think he's one of the guys
that could be a great DC pick next year.
Again, great prospect. He's at 230 play appearances.

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I think he's kind of just working through things.
But he does have like like in AAA, his his strikeout rate and
and walk rate were relatively close.
I think it's the guy to guy who just needs more at bats, which
is not going to get this year because the Cubs need to
compete. But I think if if they give him
a shot early next year, I think he could have he could at some
point just figure it out and andgo nuts.

(01:08:53):
Yeah, that's a good buy low. Yeah, my sleeper list for the
Phil. Phil's been doing his prep work
for the too early DCI so. Shit, I put him in, put his
name, one word. He's already agreed on my list
too. He's.
Going to be more prepared. All right.
The other one I think might be interesting is can Ben Brown

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like we enter the conversation? I think that's.
Yeah, I picked them up everywhere.
I'm ready. There, there's a robot, there's
a robot. He's going to be a hot pick up
on Sunday now. He's so, he's so man, like I've
had him a couple of weeks, you know, he's been off my roster

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for a little bit, but. So, so, so Phil give the give
the people like just a a taste. Where do you have them ranked?
Rest of season? In your?
In your system? In the spreadsheet?
So he comes out starter among healthy starting pitchers around
45. And that's I mean, the problem

(01:10:00):
is like we shit on the ERA, but in in like the.
Shortest time? Spot it.
Has some, some, some, I think ithas some value and I if, if
Brown stayed up, I would, I would have sat him until he
showed us something. But the Cubs send them to AAA.
They said he'll be back relatively soon.
We'll keep his pitch count low. We want to, we want him to work

(01:10:23):
on a change up and we wanted to throw strikes.
His last start in AAA it was 60 pitches.
I think it was 75% strikes. The change up was like 12%.
So he's doing exactly what they want him to do.
He had a good start and there's no open spot on that rotation.
I I wouldn't be surprised if he came if he came back up for the
the second series against against the the Royals, Maybe

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even it's two starts that week. I think he's coming up pretty
soon. I don't know if I'm going to
start him right away, but like every number looks the same as
last year. It's just the Babbitt was was
higher. So with it's typical of two of
of two pitch guys, but I think he's kind of I think there was

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some luck last year, some bad luck this year.
I think he's just kind of working through things and at
some point he's going to figure things out.
And I think he's he's got the skills that succeed whether it's
this year or not. But I think based on the state
of starting pitching in 15 team leads, I think it was an easy
pick up this week. And I hope I'm right about about
him getting called up in in a week.
No, it's really sharp, really sharp pick up and I'd certainly

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rather fold him than, for example, Chris Sale right now in
a 15 team league. Yeah.
The one thing is he's got to getthat change up.
I'd like to see him throw it 20 I mean like ridiculous amounts
because he's almost seen more lefties than righties this year.
Lefties are just crushing him. He has no way to get out lefties
right now. So that's where the problem is.

(01:11:49):
So. I think one of the things I
like, I think the, from what I've seen, the change up is
terrible, but I think it's almost like I'm going to show
you a terrible change up. You're going to hit at some
point or I'm going to throw a bunch of balls with it, but it's
going to make my two other pitches much better.
And I, I think that might have been the issues because the,
the, the starts where he threw his change up like 7-8 nine

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percent of the time were some ofhis best starts.
So even just wasting pitches with the change up, just to show
it and show it's there probably makes the other pitches better.
Yeah, that's what he needs to do.
Like he just needs to throw someballs and throw it.
Just get out there and get used to it.
And I don't know if he was just afraid of it in the majors or
whatever, but they just know that like whatever the lefties

(01:12:35):
are can just see it and they they get they've been
destroying. And whenever A-Team doesn't have
lefties, that's when you run Brown out.
And the other part is like, I trust the Cubs in terms of
fixing pitchers. And I think if if they when they
send him down, they had a plan for him.
And I think there's there's a good chance that they're they
know what they're doing and thathe can figure it out.

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I, I tend to agree with all you say.
Like I really do like a skill set.
I think he can't get by with twogood pitches and a third one
that could just be a a show pitch, right?
But The thing is like his four seamer gets 7% swinger strike.
It got 8 homers against a 14% barrel A5O6 slug.

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That's not really a good pitch either in some regards.
It's just setting up the curveball probably, right.
So I mean, I think that's where a lot of his damage comes from.
It's like that's the four seameris not surprising anyone.
It's getting hit so hard. I know it's a small, here's my
other thing with it. You need three years of fucking
ballpark data, but 13 change upsin a AAA game and you're like,

(01:13:37):
this guy has changed. I'm just joking.
I know it's different with pictures, but I just have to say
that. Just come to that part of the
podcast. But no, I do like that call out
Brown. But I just do think that like
it's, you know, that that pitch can't get rock too, you know,
can't you can't have a change upanaphor scene when I get smoked.
Just I agree. But I do agree though, like the

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Sierra, like everything looks straight.
Everything looks just. And he's had some stars in my DC
team where I'm like, this guy isgreat.
And then the next week I'm like,motherfucker, you know, So he's
a very polarizing guy. The whole for sure, yeah.
Absolutely. A note in the in the chat, you
know if you guys saw that. Oh yeah, OK, copy.

(01:14:22):
You you're unavailable at 8:00 AM to continue to record the
podcast. What do?
You pretend we're on the Cubs. You're an hour and a half into
this pod. We're going to the Reds now.
Why? Don't we do like 2 quick, you
know, boom boom. Yeah, that was a quick one.
That was like 4 minutes on. This.
It's possible I had a bad idea in terms of format, Rob.

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Matt Shawn, Ben Brown with a 5 minute hit.
That's not too bad. Reds.
Anything on the Reds here? Pagan's going to get dealt,
someone's going to get saves at some point in there.
I don't. Know they're they're.
What 2 and a 2 1/2 back? You mean selling I?

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Think I think they've been setting themselves up to
compete, yeah. Like calling up Chase Burns.
I don't know, yeah, But I think some of those where you can be
able to gone and still compete and you can kind of cash in on,
on what he's done this. I feel the same way with it.
With Chapman not on the Red Sox,they could still compete.
I think they're, I think they'repulling a mini Milwaukee.
I think Tito's doing a great jobthere.

(01:15:32):
I agree. I could see them trading for
like Randall Gritschuk, but alsotrading Pagan, like making a
bunch of weird miner trades thatit just kind of put a roster
together that you can hang around and maybe snag a wild
card. It's not sexy, but here we are.

(01:15:54):
Who we got everyone's favorite? Tony Santillan pretty much got
some of the better skills in that pen.
Or would it just go into someonethat you think that they're
going to bring in to maybe compete?
With I remember I was high fiving after I won Scott Barlow.
Earlier. You ain't kidding.
You ain't kidding, Guilds. Dollars on Scott Barlow.

(01:16:18):
I remember like round 29 in the mains, I'm like, here we go,
baby Barlow, let's do it. And it's so it's so fast.
How you can just be like, you know, you see?
Yeah. Well, that, that wasn't going to
work. Everyone was like, Pagan's not
going to keep this role, get outof here.
He'd been he'd been wiped out saving my CLQ team, that's for

(01:16:39):
sure. James, do you think, do you
think Marte has a big run for him in the next couple of
months? Yeah, if he can stay on the
field and. I mean, the playing time's
there. Yeah, no, I I think he's really
looked kind of more like the guyhe was over a year ago than the

(01:17:03):
guy he was last year. And I assume Marte is still
widely available in OCS, right? Rob I.
Haven't checked, I don't think so.
Was he? Oh, people were robbing.
Him 100% owned, yeah, OK. Never mind.
Yeah. Doesn't matter.
That was before this week as well too.
People love him 111. Quick question, how on the

(01:17:28):
surprise meter? How surprised are we on Andrew
Abbott? 12 out of 10?
He's been fucking lights out this year.
Yeah, 1212 sounds good. Right.
It's got to be one of the most biggest, I think, shocks, I
think. And, and I don't, I mean, he can
be fine, but I didn't think he would just be like dominant, you

(01:17:50):
know, pretty crazy. All right.
Anyone on this pod have Abbott on a important team?
I don't. We had him and dropped him when
he was like walking the world. Yeah.
Oh, for six on Abbott. Oh, for six on Abbott in this
whole group. Yeah.
No, no, no. Abbott here.

(01:18:11):
Fucking duds. If if honestly, if Phil's first
draft boards of the year had hadany Abbott, I assume I would
have Abbott. But since I didn't see any
Abbott and Phil's early draft boards, it's like that's that's
how I choose who I'm going aftereach year.
So fuck you Phil Like I'm why? What's wrong with the system?

(01:18:31):
And why weren't we on Abbott? The problem is there is that my
fake drafts are doing better than my real ones.
No, Abbott was bad enough that he could have been one of the
guys that Phil took with his last pick, knowing that he was
going to drop him right away. Yeah.
All but is his strikeout minus walk has dropped every month.

(01:18:53):
It's gone from 20 to 18 to 14 to10.
Like he's gotten worse and he's their amazing pitcher.
Like if you just so take it, take it out.
He's been he's been doing that for 62 starts now in great,
Great American ballpark. Just keep getting worse.
No, I mean he's the RA being better than than his X 7S so.

(01:19:18):
So is stuff picking this up or not?
Let me look. Sorry I'm slowing it down.
That was just like they think itwas a four better than the ERA
ones, but we'll have to see all.Right Cleveland Guardians class

(01:19:39):
ego anywhere. We can, I agree, we can skip
some of these teams, Rob, we have to skip some of these.
Teams, I know I'm just, I just moved on real quick.
That was a three minute team class.
They get a move, yes or no. Yes.
Yes. Yeah, OK, So did anyone have
Kate Smith? No, but I should.

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He's Canadian. Yeah, I wish I did is.
He the guy. Is he definitely the guy?
Yes. Probably, yeah.
At least this year. Yep.
That Class A is signed through 2028, so you're talking 3 1/2.
I mean what kind of packages they gonna get in return?
That's gotta be a massive. Hole, right?

(01:20:20):
I think I think somebody is going to fucking pay for him.
Like, I think he will be the bigtrade and I think that they will
auction the fuck out of him and like Dave Dombrowski will not be
able to resist this. And then the Mets are going to
get in. I think it's going to be
spectacular team. 'S two top 10 prospects kind of

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package. I don't know, James.
James, you're you're I'm. I'm just saying things.
What do you think Because of I'm?
Sure, I'm sure they'd. I'm sure they'd.
They've got a price and if someone meets it, they'll move
them. I love that idea of the of
Dombrowski coming calling. That seems like something right
up his alley. Oh yeah, he's.

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He's the exact opposite of Baltimore.
Prospect lists are there to die and, like, drown them.
I'm going to be on my next team by the time that matters, so why
would I? That's why he's.
Successful. It's because he has a lane and
he stays in it. Yeah, now that that issue with
classic, he could go to teams where he might not be the closer
also, right like the Mets. I'm thinking does he does he
close over? Do you know?
I don't think so. There's lots of teams he could

(01:21:24):
go to and not be a closer. It's a real.
I don't. I don't think there's a team
that's going to give up a huge package though.
Yeah, just to make him the eighth shot, the 8th. 100.
Percent I I that's got to be. I think he's going to close
wherever he goes. Yeah, that's got to be and.
Most likely, if he goes to the Mets, he's not.
And if. You think the Mets are going to?
I don't think the Mets are goingto pay the.
Price, David Stearns David Stearns would not do that.

(01:21:47):
Yeah, David Stearns wouldn't do that.
But they need, they definitely need high Olympic guys.
But I mean, they could just essentially do what they do with
Stanic gets way too many chancesand Garrett gets way too many
chances because they don't do back-to-back with Diaz.
So he has an opportunity to go there and get some, some.

(01:22:08):
Diaz, his contract's almost up, right?
When does he sign through? Next year, right?
So I could see the Mets. I mean, that is kind of their
MO, right? Not his.
He's not making a lot of money. They got a great farm system.
Could be Diaz replacement if they don't resign Diaz.
Yeah, he's only signed Diaz's. Oh no, they got an I've.

(01:22:30):
Got he's got three more years like they're no like I think the
the only scenario what I say doesn't close is I don't know if
there's a team, but if he goes to a team where if he goes to
the Red Sox, for example, and they want to keep Tammin in
there for whatever reason. The comparison I'm thinking is
when was it Iglesias went to theBraves?

(01:22:51):
When was it Will Smith? His contract?
He was going to be UFA somethinglike that where they kind of
kept both in Iglesias with the 8th inning guy for the rest of
the season. I think that's the one scenario
where a team would be willing topay a lot for for Class A and
then say just pitch the 8th for this year and then you can be
the guy next to him. I don't even think there's a
team like that this year. Houston Astros they would keep

(01:23:16):
hater in the 9th and put Class Ain the 8th and say fuck you and
they don't give a shit. About the Dodgers.
Dodgers. Dodgers would pitch him in the
5th inning. He'll be the opener.
He's gonna be starting game three of the World Series.
You know I mean. I'm not like like serious

(01:23:38):
serious fantasy advice. If you're in a home league or an
OC and like guys are widely available.
Is he the most likely closer? Like the best?
The best single stash is, is this the best?
If you have $1.00 and you can pick up any 8th inning guy, is
this the best one there is for the next two weeks?

(01:24:01):
I don't think so. OK.
Will you tell us if will you tell us before 6:00 AM who the
best guy is? The guy at the top of my list
last week was Santana with. The.
Pirates kind of I'm I'm going for a guys there.

(01:24:23):
I think there's still a 50% chance that class it is a gift
out where I think it's Badnar ismore like 8090%.
So so I'll my only counter argument Phil, is I think like
hometown guy aside, I think Dennis Santana has weight.
If if they are being smart, theytrade Santana as well.

(01:24:46):
Yeah. Why I like and, and Rob and I
have talked about this. I like Mattson on Pittsburgh.
I think Santana's got to get moved if they're going to do it
too. He's been.
Isn't he signed? This is the.
Top ten list of MLB trading. He's still got one more cheap
year. He's got a bunch of other guys

(01:25:06):
too, I think. I don't.
Think they get anything for? I think I'd rather.
Keep him next year, make him close, get him 20 saves by the
All Star breaking and dealing after that.
Yeah, I I just feel that way about Maxim.
Yeah. Yeah, just from looking at it,
Santana's 10th on the MLB Trade Rumors list, which gives him
about an 80% chance of being. Traded.
Yeah. Oh, I forgot about that table.

(01:25:29):
Oh, the percent. Yeah, yeah.
This is why this is what we we lost so much when we lost Jeff
Robb. No wonder my play has gone down
fucking hill. Anyone want to bet?
I don't think I I I bet he doesn't get traded.
And I'm sorry I forgot one guy. I think Dylan Lee was #1 on my
list. Santana was second.
So Dylan Lee who who else like do other people think Cleveland

(01:25:50):
like who? Who else?
If you had to have one stash andeverybody's everybody's
available, I'll. Bet you did too early Meatball
fee, Phil. I would do Lee first.
OK, my guy, I think I'd go Ersagbecause I don't, I don't think
Estevez, I don't think Royals are going to stay in it.

(01:26:10):
I can see him trading Estevez. He's got a year.
What another year? Plus they could get a decent
return for him. That's going to be big with the
Royals if they make that trade like this is kind of like the
first time with that management that they need to do.
They need to do it. They haven't done it yet.
They're 4 1/2 out. Let's say they are 6 1/2 five, 6
1/2 out. Dayton Moore wouldn't do it, but

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we'll see if the new new management does.
It's going to be kind of a telling one on who stays around
with the Royals this year. If they keep a bunch of people,
be well. I'm already pissed at them, but
they're with the world's greatest outfield.
But you can't put a worst outfield together and somehow
they've done it so. And I think.
Someone changed the case. Who who you stash?

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Just say like, is he good enoughto close everywhere he goes?
He's fifth since last year's AllStar break and saved with 34.
God just really knows how to close the game out, huh?
James James, James who you who you stashing if you could stash
anybody right now? Well, I I'm currently sashing

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Abner Uribe in a bunch of spots just 'cause I feel like McGill
could get hurt at any moment. Yeah.
I mean, I like, I like the call out on Ersag.
I like the Kate Smith's like a pretty high upside stash.
They really baby Ersag like he he really doesn't throw very

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many pitches a week. So.
What about the twins? And you got Josh.
That's I was about to say that is I think the Twins are going
to buy sell. I don't think they're going to
full like they have such a weirdteam.
I don't know they full sell, butI think that if the price goes
up, like my point on Miller whenwe were talking about Oakland's

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3 1/2 hours ago, I think if theycan get something for Duran,
they they will. They are an analytics smart team
and they know we've lost over 162 games a win by trading Duran
compared to Jax. And we'll get a couple of guys
who can help us next year, a guywe really like who's an A ball

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and we're no worse for this year.
And we'll also buy a guy. So I, I, I, I, I wouldn't mind
hiding Jax for a couple of weeksand see if that happens and
Duran and Duran and Duran is a guy on a Mets, Yankees, Red Sox
who if you can bring Duran in inthe 6th inning with two guys on

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to pitch 2 innings, doesn't needto be the closer.
Like he can be a weapon in the playoffs.
So if he's a guy, I could see a Stern paying for it.
I I think a lot of those, those guys won't get traded with
Iglesias with Housley who are free agents.
Like if you're the Dodgers, for example, like the price to bring

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in to trade for Housley is goingto be so much cheaper than for a
Duran for a Class A, and then they can just use their big
bucks to sign Helsey in the offseason.
Yeah, the count the counter argument is the big bucks though
Phil is the price of closers like an elite relievers in free

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agency. There's a real cost to that.
So I think it's, it's what's the, what's the cost of this
prospect versus like are we really going to get 50 million
bucks for three years to to Helsley?
I think the amount of money thatyou save on having a prospect
cost you like $1,000,000 for three or four years rather than

(01:29:44):
signing AI. Don't know Harrison Vader for 10
million or whoever. Like I'm making out numbers, but
you've got the point where. I don't think they're trading
Helsley though. I don't.
I. Mean they have better chances
than a lot of other teams to make the.
Playoffs, right? Look at, look at their schedule
coming. From the Cardinals Don't want to
win. Like.

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They tried to trade the whole team in the offseason.
Yeah, and they got stuck with Nolan Arenado.
Yeah, their schedule coming out,they got the Diamondbacks,
Rockies, Padres are good and then the Marlins, OK.
I mean, they're going to be trading heavily.
There's they're going to be, youknow, a game out of the wild
card if they do that, if. Not so so so as we as we cut to

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the the the Patreon. Who can we bring up here?
Grant Taylor. So here's here's here's the
question, Rob, you've been hyping a bunch of White Sox
hitters through the season, and I think it's been good hype when
you hype them. So Sosa has been usable for
periods. Benedetti's actually been usable

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for periods. Vargas, who do you think are
usable hitters in Chicago for the rest of the season?
Or is it week by week? See who's starting and where
they're hitting. I got a question for you guys.
We talked about Albees earlier. Would you take Chase Mydroff
over him? No, no, as I was wrong when I
went on James's podcast. I take the L on this.

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I think he will still be a good play like a real baseball player
for the White Sox. He's a useless fucking like the
stolen base. It's, well, I mean in a world
where Andres Jimenez is barely startable in 15 teams, I I just
thought the bat, the batting average was going to be a 280
batting average. And it's not just Babbitt.
So chase my drop. I think he'll be OK if I'm in

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ADC and like round 4040 next year.
He's still there. I think he's an interesting guy,
but he's useless for this year Ithink.
So I take the out all right. Yeah, I think he got that.
But I think the White Sox have been an interesting source of
hitters this year. I'm, I'm still holding out hope
for Brooks Baldwin. That's going to be the one guy

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I'll just say that I'm still like holding out for, you know,
that chance that he's you know, he hasn't played a lot of
infield, you know, since he's and his last game played for the
White Sox. But I still think like I there's
an Ave. where he would play over, you know, Josh Rojas in my
growth and I just I still love his skill set.

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He still projects very well. So I just think he's the kind of
guy that I'll probably have likemy eye on every weekend in Fab
because it did when he went downthe AAA and he he hosed it there
and he got called back up to feel a little bit of Louise
Robert. And then I didn't know if he was
going to stick back around. He kind of did until he went on
the IL. So I don't know.
I, I would say Baldwin is the one guy I'm I'm going to keep,

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keep some hope up for. James, who's the player on the
White Sox that 12 months from today on their lineup, we say
that's that's an actual hitter. He's like, he's a good player.
Well, I, I like both of their catchers.
I just wish they weren't splitting.
Yeah, like they're honestly, they've just, they they're

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really kind of empty on hitters still.
They just, they're good at pitching now, but they suck at
hitting still from what I can do.
James Is there a world where they do push Teal back into the
I can play other spots because I'm an athlete or they, you
know, obviously like go back. I, I mean, I think they should
be playing Caro just a ton at DHand they should be like, I think

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they should be starting Teal four or five days a week at
catcher, Caro two days a week atcatcher.
And then Caro should be playing every day at DH when he's not
catching. And Teal could even play DH when
Caro's catching. Like I I they're two of their
best like 4 or 5 yard hitters and they could be playing, which
is possible. It's pretty crazy that Caro's

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batting four O 3 versus lefty. It's only 72 plate appearances,
but four O 3 average at 952 OPS.Every time I see that I'm like,
man, it's he's definitely got the stick on the other side.
Maybe that's why they haven't played him as much.
You know, he's got a 541 OPS versus righties right now.

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But yeah, he should be playing more.
And show us your teal somewhere.Anything on their pictures,
believers, or we'll just move on.
They have a 330 winning percentage.
I don't think we need to spend aton of time on their pitchers.

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I think if you've, if you've if,if you just like really need
some strikeouts only if that's the only category.
No, but like look like we're all, we're all gonna get into
funny part of like as we've we're gonna get there.
We're like, we're only like 3 hours away from talking about
like how do you bring down a championship?
We're all gonna start streaming weird shit, but the notion that

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the White Sox are going to win agame in the game you pick a guy,
even in the two start week, likejust probabilistically, it's
fucking a long shot that they'rewinning a game and the starting
pitcher is getting the win and the bullpen doesn't blow it.
It's just not a great bet on that team.
Yep, that's fair for sure. Detroit Tigers, they become like

(01:35:19):
a little bit of the Tampa Bay Rays here.
I just this weekend after the Ivy's drop 2 weekends ago, I
dropped Parker Meadows this weekend.
I had enough of his shit too andit's 2 games on one day off
bullshit and felt good too. That felt great.
You know really like cut throat call.

(01:35:41):
I feel like is is, you know, I'mtrying but anyway it's not.
Even a cut throat. It's like you should have made
the move a month ago. I know, I know, I.
So let me let me ask a real baseball question and then we'll
go fantasy. James, you're close to systems.
I asked you the question about Baltimore, your sense about
Detroit. They have the best record in the

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American League by three games. Do they say like, this is fucked
up how we got here? Nobody thought we were going to
be here. Don't really understand how we
are here. But we are here and therefore we
have to be aggressive. Or do they not do that?
What's your sense just system wise and talking to people?

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I think they'll be aggressive just because they have Tariq's
Google and you just don't know how long you're going to have
him pitching this well so you. Beautiful answer.
You got a shot and. Yeah, and I'm old enough to
remember a world where, like, the Los Angeles Dodgers could go
in with Oral Hershiser and nothing else.

(01:36:45):
And if you have Terek School going to a playoff series and
you can pitch him twice, just have to win one game like it's a
big deal. Forget it, fucking stud you.
Got to do it. So what do we say from a fantasy
perspective or actual things about Detroit?
I was shocked when I saw that Javi Baez is 95% owns in main

(01:37:07):
own in main events. That makes no sense to me.
Other than that, I think most ofthe guys are like part of the
roster. I know the team is doing well,
but like the good good players are all owned everywhere.
And then they're the other lineup spots are kind of just
like rotating. Like Rob said, they're the Rays,

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the Bopes. How about best?
Does he get replaced? I know he's been great that this
kind of I have a share of a mainshare of good main.
So I'm curious. I'm kind of nervous.
They they, they had a bullpen arm there.
I don't think it gets replaced. I I think they would do maybe
like one move somewhere else because they don't, they don't

(01:37:52):
have like that much to trade. So I think like they would
probably trust their bullpen to get it done.
I think they're more. Likely to add like another guy
that can go like two or three innings in the playoffs and like
because they have scuba and thenMize and Flaherty who might go

(01:38:12):
like 5 innings, but I think theykind of want to do what they did
last year and just have like 100% end games.
Yeah. And they definitely have guides
that they could slide in there that you know, would be from the
rotation or whatever. And they have those, those those
excellent Holton SGL like herdertypes, you know?
Yeah, SPL, I was just going to say is going to be back soon and

(01:38:34):
was good in his last rehab start.
Yep, see somebody like. Is somebody you're targeting
James? Well, I targeted him the first
time. It didn't work that well, but I
I just like the team situation and I think, you know, he's he's
at least a guy I would want to use in, in home starts and road

(01:38:56):
starts against bad teams. That's not awesome.
Yeah, quick call there. And don't forget about Bailey
Horn in case he gets everyone would like that.
All right, let's go. Let's let's go down to Houston.
Phil, you brought up something like maybe like like a month ago

(01:39:18):
or a couple weeks ago about how good they've, they've been in
their bullpen and just they're pitching in general.
And when you told me that and I looked at it, it's pretty
impressive how they're stabbed in the bullpen.
It's just been fucking liked outright.
Yeah, I mean they're they need your dawn back.
That's. 100% yes. He ain't he.

(01:39:38):
Ain't. He he ain't coming back.
So let's do some They're going. To have to make nutrient.
Thursday What? What?
What did they have to take for you to hold him?
You're Dawn. Yeah.
You're Dawn. You're Dawn.
And it's a month. You should be ready in a month.

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Yeah, at this point, I mean, you're, I'd love to see if
there's you're, you're daunting.That's competitive.
Like it's if if you've been holding out to him up all this
time, you're probably a point where you're that's been hoping
for a miracle. So you kind of just keep him if
you're somehow compared with them.

(01:40:25):
I don't know. Want me to show you my team
that's competitive with them? Yeah.
I I have it luckily, because I I've but yeah, I'm pretty much
just he would just give me exactly what my team needs.
I haven't been like, you know, getting crushed in power or
ribby, but he would I'm like, you know, I don't know.
It would be a nice. Job, I think, I mean, at this

(01:40:46):
point I think I'd keep him just because we're getting to a point
where like every other injury that happens is probably going
to be an easy drop and he's a potential difference maker.
Even if it's only a 25% chance that he comes back, he's a
difference maker, which most of the injuries that you get from

(01:41:06):
this, like at this point, rosterspots aren't as important as
they were two months ago, I think.
So I think like you've held off to him this long, I think I'd
just keep him. If you were if you were Rob, if
I don't know where your team is,if your team was 25th overall in
the main or the online and you had points ahead of you in home

(01:41:28):
runs, RBI's and batting average and you have $200 in fab left
and Jordan has been cut and you don't have Adhi would tell you
you have to like Jordan is the single best guy you could have
on like your dawn. Your dawn is your you need to
make up points, but it's makeable points like you have

(01:41:50):
100 points, you know, 200 pointsin home runs 200 up.
Like I don't. I don't think if you're in that
situation, you'd like you. Jordan can fucking fix things in
a month. Like he can move you up spots.
All right, check it out. Do a pretty close, Rob, 30th
overall in the auction championship, but yeah.

(01:42:11):
Which is which is the only league you care about?
It's the true championship as far as you're concerned for next
year, as we were talking about before we started the podcast 8
hours ago. Like you said, points ahead of
me and homers 17, you know, you know, 33 points like right there
and ribbies too. So this is the perfect, like you
said, like every time I look at the wire, I'm like, I just

(01:42:32):
think, you know, I want to, I wanna wait for him.
And your last picture you can cut now easier.
We talk about, Jeff, you and I talk all winter about why you
want all the pictures on the bench.
But by now, you have a pretty good sense of who your pictures
are. The benefit, the accrued benefit

(01:42:53):
of having the excess pictures iscoming out of the draft.
And then month one, month 2, because of injuries, because of
uncertainty. By now, like shit's gonna
happen. Guys will still get hurt.
But I just think that the the benefit is lower.
I agree with Phil. I bet the only scenario I'd I'd
cut him is if you're in a spot where you can really move up

(01:43:15):
with saves and with the trade deadline two weeks away.
I want 4 roster spots to speculate on four guys and hope
I hit on two of them. And if I get that, I can gain 7
points in the standings. And I saw quickly you're like
40-6 days. So that's not your case.
Yeah, well, or, or your, or your25 home runs in first 150 RB is
in first. And like you, you have Aaron

(01:43:37):
Judge. And you know, like you're,
you're, you're laughing. Cal Rally.
Cal Rally yeah, but I think I think if you're going for an
overall, you'd fucking want a couple.
I don't know, like like there are there are other people on
here who have won overalls more recently and are closer to an
overall now. I think you, you, you both want
to grind, but you also want a couple of like paths to victory

(01:43:59):
like in poker terms and like a month or six weeks, which is I,
I am skeptical that we see you're done this year.
I think he's fucked and I don't know what's going on.
It makes no sense what they're doing.
But at the same. Time probabilistic, Like, I
don't know what the fuck's goingon.
He could also be back in two weeks.

(01:44:20):
I'll fuck people onto a home runin the Ulster game, yeah. 11
Last thing for the Astros, Araghetti is working his way
back. How does this shake out?
Is it just Colton Gordon comes out?
I think that would be the easiest pick.
Lance has been great of weight. I think Walter's been fucking

(01:44:41):
phenomenal. He he probably staying but and
gusto and gusto has been really good.
But it might just be beneficial for them to keep the colors on
like a everyday, you know, like every fifth day schedule and
probably better for his arm and to not be a reliever.
I don't know. What do you guys think how that
shakes out? I spent way too much time like
at this rotation. I know you.

(01:45:05):
I think Gordon and Gusto come out.
I think they've both, they both have like a sub 4X fit, but I
think their ERA hasn't matched their peripherals.
So I think because of that, it'seasy to take them out.
So I think everybody's going to come for Gordon, but he's what
like 4 weeks away? Everybody I think he's just
throwing bull pants now so closeto rehab.

(01:45:27):
I think so. A lot can happen until then, but
I think at this point he's he's not comes out because Walter's
been a stud. Yeah, cool, Walters.
Two walks, just two. Incredible.
Yeah, Command plus. Elite command.
Elite elite KC Royals I don't know this team is a bunch of

(01:45:48):
vanilla is really the offense isjust disgusting after
Pascondino. Well, Jack too now, but I don't
know any anything about the Royals.
Yeah, I've I've fallen way too much.
It's it's a complete shit show. The only one that I'm interested
in, like Nick Lofton, maybe he'll play in, he might be able

(01:46:09):
to get some steals hits for for some average, but otherwise this
is just complete garbage. The one thing is there's some
talk of them trading Lugo off. He might, but there's no one
that's going to move in. So and he's just going to be
some teams like 3rd or 4th starters.
So there's nothing here. Cool.

(01:46:31):
I like that Los Angeles Angels, Joe Adele.
Let's just let's just give a second and and praise Joe Adele
and then we can move on to do whatever you guys want.
He's been amazing, love him. I love him too.
God, God bless him, him and Addison.
Barbie saved my teeth in in so many ways and forever be

(01:46:54):
indebted to those guys. I was going to ask, do they move
Kenley? Who wants him?
Who? Wants him here we go wow,
that's. Dodgers.
Well, it's it's like with this contract, like I think they can
get comparable pitchers and Payless.

(01:47:15):
Yeah, I think, I think the Angels will convince themselves
they're just hanging around the wild card.
I don't think they actually do that.
That that, that was that that was my conclusion on site where
I had I had bettmers close to the top of my of my list.
And then I kind of just the angels feel kind of that kind of
team where they. Just MM Trout is healthy and if

(01:47:37):
Mike Trout is the best player inbaseball, then we are a great
team and we can make a run and Ithink that's the most teams
think they can possibly do. Yeah, four games, you know,
might as well just give it a shot, you know?
Yeah. I don't think they're getting,
they're probably not getting enough for Kenley to.
I mean, I if they're 7 back, I think they'll, they might say,

(01:48:00):
hey, we'll take whatever we can get for him.
If they're four or five back, I think they'll just give it a
shot. Anything else?
No, I don't know that there's anybody like the fantasy guys
are owned and I just like guys who are shit on the angels are

(01:48:21):
shit. So I just don't know who like
who's a fantasy relevant guy to like actionable.
I picked up a whole bunch of Moncada this weekend.
I know Phil for 50 made too manywe're.
Going to be here in 2029 and Phil's system is going to still
say yon Moncada is a really interesting prospect.

(01:48:43):
If he stays healthy, Yon Moncadareally could be a thing this
year. He is, he is.
I got him in in one league. Yeah.
He is a thing, you know he's a thing.
Tune bet. What is?
What is the thing though? What is a thing?
He's neither healthy nor good, so tell me what The thing is.

(01:49:03):
120 WRC. Plus I.
Mean, that's pretty fucking good, Rob.
I read the process. Eight O 5 OPS, 14% bowel rate.
I like those things, you know, 7homers, 6 doubled in 135 point
appearances. I think.
I think that's useful if you playing every day.

(01:49:24):
Yeah. Especially like like you said,
it's really solid one through 7 here and they're going to go for
it. I don't like it.
Dodgers. What do we got here for the
Dodgers? Shohei Freeman and bats are
definitely slumping. That should of course correct
soon. Not worried about that, but is
the is anyone playing the carousel of like, when, when are

(01:49:48):
they going to like who they're pitching every week 'cause
that's just becoming a headache,you know, with the Sheehan and
Lebowski. Tough game to play.
That's frustrating for sure. I feel like I've I don't, I've
got a lot of Sheehan. I don't know if I've got him in
my lineup for any starts so far.I think there's a good chance
that both Sheehan and Mei are out of the rotation in two

(01:50:10):
weeks. My Notani is can go 5 and Snell
his back. I think that they're both out
because there's just no room. Someone might get hurt before
until then. But I think most it's it's I, I
mean, I I love Sheehan's skill, but it's it's the reason why I

(01:50:32):
didn't pay for him because like I've got too much selling glass
now. I've kind of been paying
attention to way too much to their rehab and I, I can, I, I,
I was hoping and seeing that coming eventually.
How's your season going Phil? With too much Snell and Glasnow.
It's been amazing. The great thing is that my my

(01:50:53):
best team actually has both of them now.
Everything else is a disaster but a team with with 70 hitting
points with which could have Wheeler, Eovaldi, Glasnow and
Snell in in a couple weeks. So have you, have you, have you,
have you, have you, I assume you've run the note.
I'm asking you a question. I know you've already done.

(01:51:14):
What do they, what do you need them to do in order for you to
be right there on September 15th?
Because my understanding is you should be prepping your football
drafts right now, Phil. So you should not be actually
even paying attention to baseball right now.
You should be doing football. But tell me what you need to do
from them to to to get back intoit.

(01:51:36):
That team's the, that team's thediamond.
I'm I'm, I'm up by 20 something points.
But if it wasn't overall I'd be.I think it would have.
For fuck's sake, you're like, you just pulled like a Cujo.
You're winning the Diamond League by 23 points, you have
$100,000 in your fucking pocket fill tax free already and you're

(01:51:58):
playing 70. 5. Oh, 75?
Sorry you only have 75 in your pocket already.
I'm just complaining because in the platinum I'm out of in the
diamond auction, I'm mostly out of it.
So it's kind of I was I was telling Rob like it it it's kind
of the it's kind of going to be boring two or three months
because there's one team where Ithink I'm convinced I'm going to

(01:52:19):
win and everything else is kind of either out of it.
I'm kind of fighting to maybe sneak in in 3rd place somewhere,
but. It's so it's so so.
Are you spending most of your time ranking your like Wide
Receiver 4049 this week or are you still plugging away?
No, I'm still plugging away. I'm kind of the idiot who on

(01:52:40):
August 20th is going to decide to sign up for three prime times
and then do rankings in two daysand draft the next day.
That's how I do my football. He's prepping for the meatball.
Yeah, that's more important right now.
And, and let's ask this question, Phil.
So I know you have a bunch of entries.

(01:53:01):
Obviously you have platinum, youhave diamond auction, you have
diamond. But if you win 75,000 bucks, by
definition, you've had a profitable year this year.
Is is it a deeply, but assume none of your main event teams
make a late run. Is it?
But you've made, I don't know, 45,000 bucks U.S. tax free this

(01:53:22):
year. Is it a disappointing year?
Like is this a shit year? And you go you you go into the
winter saying that sucked. Or do you go like a decent human
being and say I made $45,000 playing fantasy baseball, hang
up with my friends and this was a lot of fun?
I'll be happy about the money, but I'll be upset because I'll
know I'll have been lucky to winthat because my system has been

(01:53:46):
absolutely terrible this year and I have to figure it out for
next year. So I'll be happy about the
money, but upset about everything else because I've
been early, early research is that my system has been worse
and steamer and worse than AVP again this year.
So it's going to be back to spending hundreds of hours in
the offseason to try to figure it out.
And then, but yes, I'll be happyabout the money because the

(01:54:09):
system sucking and losing money would have been more painful.
Yep, yeah. 'Cause your early draft boards
suck, Phil, just to be clear. Yes, I know, I'm aware all.
Right. Don't worry, we're gonna no
one's gonna see the ADP of this draft, Phil, After the first
three DC's, no, but this one, specifically the meatball draft,

(01:54:32):
there'll be no ADP for that because it's gonna be a private
league this year. So anything with do you guys do
the .2 fiver with the like a Blake trying in on this team to
someone who might get a save every now and then?
It's very hard to start those guys, but you know, with the
very popular pick this pick up this weekend.

(01:54:56):
He's one whore. If you're in the lead and you've
got good wins, like you're doinggood with pitching, you just put
them in and you get those extra saves and you keep your ratios
in check. But I think he's kind of Team
Pacific. I don't think you're going to
get a ton of saves from him. He's not going to be a huge
difference maker, but he's goingto be 1 to kind of stabilize a
team. You guys want to guess where the

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Dodgers ranking Bolton ERA this season?
Oh, it's four or more. Horrific.
I'll. I guess I'll go with everybody
and say it's pretty bad, but what's 20th in the league?
Oh yeah, 24 with the 4.3080 RA. So it's not one of those last
few years where you get the, like you said, the .25 or and

(01:55:41):
you get great ratios. They just, I just don't see any
good arms in that bullpen right now that are even usable as a
middle reliever who gets to saveevery two, two or three weeks.
It used to be like you, you takeAlex Fazia and you get like, I
don't know, seven wins and sevensaves or whatever, but you're
just, I mean, I don't see it this year.

(01:56:03):
Just barriers with his 26 earnedruns out of the pen.
Have to those those 12 earned runs in two games has to be
driving that thing up a lot, too.
For sure. Yeah.
But like it's like Scott hasn't been good, Ben has been
terrible. Yates is just not like they're.
I don't know. No, the right answer was none of

(01:56:25):
the above. Like you should not draft any of
them. Yeah.
All right, Miami Marlins shout out to Dave Petrazello.
We just got to give him a shout out for Kyle Stowers.
You know, Dave, it's going to beall right.
Dave Stowers. Just don't take him out of the
lineup. Everything will be fine.

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What do we got here for the Marlins?
Sandy Alcantara, another guy. I'll add him to the list of
recent drop for me and main events.
But again, I'm fucking cleansingthis week.
I should have. I should have started up this
this did this cleanse a long time ago but that felt good.
And did anyone get on the Yuri Perez drain this year in FAB?
Because I'm fucking definitely regret not going a little harder

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for him for sure. I didn't.
No. Oh, for six?
Yeah. We don't have the shares.
We we, we stupid Rob. Jesus Christ.
Well, or at least one of us was already broke, so one of us
could not afford him by the timehe became available.
He's the one who has many teams in contention for the overall

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and the rest of us are stupid. Yep.
St. Joy.
St. Joy, Milwaukee One.
Of the problems is like you haveto add him right away and he was
horrible right away so did he even have?
I was looking to see if a strikeout where 8 minus walk was
actually positive barely to begin with in June.

(01:57:59):
You so it definitely it had to be blind faith like you had to
just yeah be. Better.
And that's where you were. It's like if you're using any
kind of analysis with him, you're like in June.
Like fuck. This dude and also the Marlins
were 30 games under 500 at this point.
So like, it's not just that he'sgoing to be good, but that the
team was going to start winning games.
Right. So that was one of those deals

(01:58:19):
where it was like if you it was one face, like James says, it's
like to begin with, it was like it was so bad.
You're just like, I want nothingto do with this.
And then he turned it around andhe's great, but he's not on your
team. So I think the process is right.
It's just like if you look at those like first few games, I
mean June was just an ex VIP of over 5.
Like not not going to be on my team.

(01:58:42):
I think it's the, I don't know if you guys remember it was 2021
Brian Wu. I think it's the Brian Wu rule
where you shouldn't get influenced by one start, and we
all do. And I think the best buys are
starting pitchers to get blown up in their first start.
Like Kershaw was cheaper than hewould have been if he had a good
first start. Lance McCullough just kind of

(01:59:05):
faded off, but he was hobo for afew first few starts.
He had a few good ones after that.
Montaz was cheaper because he had two bad starts.
Now he's kind of turning around.I think injured guys coming back
need, I don't know, four or fivestarts before they figure it
out. And I think they're, and that
applies to young, some young pitchers as well.
I think some of those guys are turn out to be the best buys

(01:59:25):
'cause we all get we we all freaked out after one or two bad
starts. Well I think Yuri Perez had like
4 bad starts. Yeah.
What's the problem? Well, depends to a good but.
What are you talking about? Like just not starting him and
just being angry that he had four bad starts?
Like what? What's the question about the

(01:59:46):
four bad starts that that we're getting hung up and like, like
dropping him? No Should I have been aggressive
to pick him up when he's suckingass?
Yeah, I mean, it's two starts, you know, like.
Yeah, no, but that's Phil's point.
I mean this is this is the discussion.
But it was 4 bad starts. 20 yeah, yeah, just but just just

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in general 22 year old with likehis stuff was pretty much fine.
I mean, it's not like it was badlike the like you're talking
about making quick decisions on the model number.
They were fine. Like, I don't know, I'm just
saying like the four Seaman was sitting 98 in his first four
starts with an 11 1/2 percent swing of strike rate.

(02:00:29):
It's like not like everything was doomsday.
He looked good. It just, you know, wasn't put
together great starts. I mean, I don't know.
I guess the corollary to Phil's like Brian Wu's rule, just wait
until you see a good start before you put them in your
active lineup if you have any other options.
Like that's why you see something.

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And I think one of the things I've kind of noticed, this might
just be anecdotal, but it seems the guys that come back from
injuries, they either have starts were so the command is
often off. So they have starts where they
walk five guys and don't strike out anyone.
And then next one they'll say OK, I got to throw strikes.
Then they get destroyed. They'll have like 5 strikeouts,

(02:01:11):
no walks, and then just give up a bunch of of hard contact.
And then at some point after four or five starts to kind of
figure it out, the command is more precise and they start
being good. It might just be no, but I've
seen that with a lot of guys like either we have AAA or
majors after that, but it's likeit's just it sounds like a

(02:01:31):
Doctor Dave thing where I'm kindof just throwing this out based
on my years of experience. I have no numbers to back this
up and it's something I've kind of noticed with with guys come
back from. Injuries.
No, no, but but, but, but, Phil,as long as you pick and choose
which examples you use to prove that your theory, and then post
those specific examples after the fact, you'll be fine because
they'll all be right. Tuning into the launch Angle

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