August 27, 2025 • 67 mins
Rob And I discuss the to Early Meatball draft, our team standings with the season winding down and the topic of rolling back FAAB moves in the NFBC,
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Here's the pitch. All righty, we're back on the
launch angle pod. I'm Rob D I'm here with Rob
Silver. Rob, good morning.
And you're wearing a hoodie. It's August, though.
What's? What's going?
On it's it's a brisk morning. I don't I don't want to go full
Mudika and just talk about the weather.
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But yeah, no, it's it's it's brisk here and fall is coming.
We're almost at a Labor Day. I believe even in geckos world,
we're allowed to look at the standings from now.
Right, Rob? Like it's not too early anymore
to look at the standings in yourface.
I think Labor Day was his his his day.
I will. I found myself a peek at how my
teams are doing on Labor Day weekend.
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Oh God, that's that's still one of the most astounding things
I've ever heard, you know? I don't believe.
I don't believe it to this day. I've I've never I've never
believed it from the start because I just don't.
I don't think, I don't think you're able to win that many
main event leagues without looking at the fucking standings
from the from the get go. You know there's.
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Also, how do you know which players you tell the NFPC you
want to drop on Monday? Unless you know how your team is
doing, you need to know that to be able to to backfill your
moves Monday morning. He didn't even look at stats for
the guys, he just knows. He just knows.
Intuitive. It's intuitive.
Yeah, it's it's it's all superpower that we we don't
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possess, you know? Yeah, it's, yeah, it's the one
thing stopping me from winning main events.
It's the ability to secretly know how my players are doing.
They're not have to look at anything, you know, just yeah,
100% meta. I went to the Met game last
night, Rob, and I just want to say it, it was fucking electric.
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I wish that they didn't go into such a slump because I think we
got the Phillies by the necks right now.
You know, like. It's your sense, yeah.
I mean, look, we'll talk about Zach Wheeler, but is your sense
that there's a disconnect between Mets fans who go to the
game and, like, the online impression or like the talk
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radio esque Mets fans of being pissed off?
Because certainly when, when, when my son and I were at the
Mets game, they're like, they're100% like they're, they're
grumpy. But every baseball team thinks
is grumpy. Even if you're in first place,
you're grumpy when things are going well.
Is, is there a disconnect? Like do we get a the wrong
impression because of the onlinepresence?
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Or are are Mets fans like they're nervous and they're
angry because this was supposed to be a powerhouse team and
like, it's obviously now you're in a good, you're going to make
the playoffs, but it's a, it's abit of a struggle.
There's definitely a disconnect.I would say earlier in the year
there was no feeling of Oh my God.
Now there's definitely is some and it's and you hear it in like
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slightly more booze that we heard in the beginning of the
year, you know, But like, it's still not as bad as yeah, I had
to. I'm I'm very close to muting
Mets on Twitter because it is just everyone is just so they're
just so hung up on on on being pessimistic and fuck Sterns and
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fuck Mendoza and this and that. And it's like, guys, we're in
the playoffs easy right now. Easy.
We still got a shot of the division and we're bringing up
the best fucking pitching prospect in baseball.
But like, but, you know, they wanted this done in May and they
didn't really like no one, you know, like, this is all part of
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the plan. First, third.
This was all like, written, you know, on a piece of paper for
him. It's like actually developing
the way he wants to. You know, Ryan Helsley's
worrisome, you know, like, he again got shelved last night and
he got booed. He deserves to get booed.
He doesn't deserve an entrance song.
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I'm sorry. Like, no, no, no, no, you can't.
Like that's a mistake they made from the start.
They gave him his entrance song for the 8th inning.
You need to earn that. You need to earn music in the
8th in New York. I'm sorry.
And now that he's shitting himself, he shouldn't get it.
Like that should be. Has there ever been like an
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eighth inning guy who has it like a walk in song?
I've never even. That's a great question.
It's like a great question. It's like and and, and what if
the Mets decide to deploy him inthe 6th inning because there's a
tough part of the lineup coming out?
Do you play like a bitch song inthis?
That's fun. That's messed up.
It's for closers. It's for closers for sure and if
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you want to make the guy feel athome I get it, but make him earn
it first. I I mean like.
I can understand if you had likethe Yankees bullpen when they
had like Mariano Rivera is the 8th inning guy and John Wetland
in the 9th, but Rivera was awesome.
I can understand that if if it was modern baseball, Obviously
back then they didn't have entrance songs.
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If you had like the Nasty Boys bullpen from the Cincinnati Reds
where you had like Dibble and Myers and like it was shut down
and all three of them are like just so dominant.
I can accept that. Norm Charlton.
Norm Charlton was the third. It was the three of them and
they were a wicked bullpen, right?
Like I can wrap my rat mind around, but that's, as you say,
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that's the kind of thing it's like, wow, it's like you pitch
73 innings in the 7th, 8th inning and you have a 142 ERA
and could be the closer, but we have a dominant closer too.
So we're going to show you some like that's I totally agree with
you, Rob. Like that's weird.
Right. If he was like crushing it and
then last night they'd go up to the Phillies and and and it's in
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the 8th inning and they just played it.
They wouldn't want everyone would have went bonkers.
But right now they need to treathim like a regular fucking
scurve who comes in at 6th inning because that's, that's
what he is. He's horrible.
And I, I'm shocked Mendoza keepsgoing to him.
I and I get, I get he knows thatthe best form of the Mets is if
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Ryan Helsley is nasty in the 8th, but he can't, he can't do
anything. And it's and it's awful.
I know Edwin Diaz had his back last night after the game.
He said, I've been through this.We we have it back, we'll get
him right. But it's still like you're
sitting there and he comes in and you know, it's not a good
feeling when you're like, fuck, Elsie's coming in.
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You know, it's bad. And he is.
But the music. Yeah.
So I do want to talk to about the NFBC controversy.
I don't know if it blows up to full scandal level cuz scandal
to me implies like some real like malfeasance, some like real
ill intent. I think this is I think this is
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a controversy. I think it's a mistake.
But I don't think, I don't thinkeven you or like who is
obviously kind of really upset about this yesterday, 2 days ago
would claim that there's like collusion or anything, like it's
just, it's a, it's a bad way that they're running their game.
But it's not, it's not like the previous scandal.
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You agree with that. So let's get that out of the
way. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's not, that's not close. There's no collusion going.
I mean, they're, they're no, they're not helping the person
who who they made the move for because he shipped on the NFPC
constantly. So no reason to help.
So. So.
So for people who have no idea what we're talking about, why
don't you give context about about kind of what, what set you
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off and what, what the NFPC has been doing in terms of in terms
of some adjustments to fab changes?
Yes, I got an e-mail at Five O'clock 5:00 PM Monday.
So that's a full how many hours after Fab 17?
No more than that 17. Hours.
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Yeah, yeah. 17 hours. Yeah, like anyways, the next
day, 24 hours later, basically. Yeah, pretty much that.
There's been a rollback in my league, and it was for someone
who dropped Blake Perkins and now they let him drop Kobe
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Thomas instead of Blake Perkins.And it doesn't, you know, on the
surface you're like. Who cares?
People are still saying, who cares?
You know, White Perkins Cheerioscoming back and they're trying
to defend it. So for me, I've always thought
this rule is stupid. It's just not necessary where
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there's a large scale event withlots of money on the table.
It could possibly alter standings.
You know we have a full fucking week from the last time we do
FAB to make sure we get this right.
But that let me just pause you there because you used a word
and this is what's not clear to me is you said there's a rule.
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So, and I think this is where this is the that word is the
crux of the issue. Who is allowed to reverse who
they dropped on Monday morning and who is not?
And under what circumstances will it be overturned and under
what circumstances will they saysorry?
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Let's the buyer beware, you screwed up.
Sucks to be you. And I am not clear because it's
not a rule if you just read the official rules that we are all
playing by the Constitution, an old kind of roto parlance.
There is nothing about being able to overturn transactions
written in there, at least not that on my ordinary reading on
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it. The only thing they can fall
back on me being putting my lawyer hat on is their decisions
are final and their decisions blah blah blah blah blah.
But in terms of if I was a firsttime player and I emailed in to
to one of the staff at the NFBC,whether it's at 11:00 PM on
Sunday night or 7:00 AM on Monday morning or noon on Monday
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morning and said, damn, I screwed up.
I released the wrong guy. I meant to release this guy
instead of this guy. Under what circumstances would
they say, no problem, I'll reverse that right, right away
for you? Or would they say it really
sucks Rob, but pay more attention next time.
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Yeah, there's nobody knows, nobody knows.
And, and, and we've had people, you know, in deployed of this
court talk about how they've been denied moves the following
day and some people obviously have had it allowed and it's
just sucked to not know. It's amazing.
I think I would bet you that about 90% of the NFPC players
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don't even know that they could do that.
Well, because they can't do it. Like it's not it's not a thing,
right? Like that's the thing.
It's not a thing. It shouldn't be a thing.
So what they're what they have been.
I have never heard contrary and I somebody please correct me if
I'm wrong. Where they are consistent is if
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you say I meant to bid on this player, but I bid on the wrong
guy. Two guys had the same last name.
I clicked on the wrong one and ho ho ho.
I have egg on my face. I bet $150 on a guy who's
playing in like in the Guatemalan league right now.
I think they have been consistent to the best of my
knowledge on saying that really sucks.
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We cannot we cannot overturn youbid on the wrong guy is that do
you agree with that Rob? They never they they they are
consistent on that. It's only on I dropped the wrong
guy, right? And it's also too, they won't
adjust. I think last year with Brian
Fitzgerald, who made to was supposed to bid 70 on, you know,
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obviously not an insignificant player, but obviously not a, you
know, a league changer and he bid 700 by accident.
Fat finger and. Yeah.
And I and I think those two it sucks like and I did that one
time and I emailed, I think I posted in the discord.
I emailed Greg like at ten O 5 when I saw that I had bid on the
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wrong guy and I said I don't, I don't want the player like
don't. I'm not trying to claim that you
should overturn somebody else who got the player I wanted to
bid on, but like can you just like clearly I didn't mean to
bid on this guy and he's like, sorry, Rob, like bids are final.
Same thing with prices. I don't and I think I think
that's right, like it's socks that you bid 700 when you meant
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to bid 7 or 70, but they can't. They can't play that game.
I don't understand what, how andwhy and when they play the game
with the drops though. Yeah, and and I I think my
second year playing, I emailed Derek, how old guy Derek the
demon. And I said, hey man.
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And this is instantly right after Fab rolled out.
And I said, shit, I'm like, I dropped Ahmed Rosario.
I meant to drop Eddie Rosario. And I think I have no idea if
it's possible to make that happen, to switch it, but I
really just made an honest mistake there.
And and it took me a while to even want to write the e-mail,
though. That's the thing.
Everything inside of me was like, you know, whatever you
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fucked up. Yeah.
I mean, I should be better. That's the thing.
It's like, be better. And the reason why this one hit
me a little closer to home was because the person who had to
move rule back for four is in first place.
Been in first place all year. I've been down 20 points.
Just tied him on Sunday. And it's just like a little bit
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more of a why is this happening now?
You know, I think everything, every time something happens to
you, you know, what you see happening in the world, they're
like, and there's doesn't reallylike hit you and then it happens
to you. You're like, this is actually
really more fucked up than I thought because now I feel it,
you know? Yeah.
And it's just awful. It's just a stupid fucking thing
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to keep doing for people. I'm sorry if this person had an
oversight, but 17 fucking hours later to give me a break, I
mean, and, and, and, and, and, you know, my first thought too
was like, oh, he must have started Blake Perkins was in the
lineup and decided to fucking, you know, say, Hey, I want him
back. And they say, no, that wasn't
the case. And I still don't believe that.
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And I know they was like, we're not in the we're not in the
business of, of proving intent. But I mean, this is, this is the
business you're in. So like figuring.
Out so I so I, I think they needto go to a 0 tolerance policy
and I think that's the answer. The answer is if you had cut
Juan Soto by mistake, so it likeit's 100% he's not hurt like
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your star player, you, you, you you cut.
I think the answer is the same. It's like, I'm really sorry that
sucks so badly. But like there's a feature
review all your fad moves like they they couldn't give you more
tools on the website for you to be careful before you submit
your fab. So like if you have too many fab
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leagues and it's like I just I'mI'm going, I'm going, I'm going
my family. It was some then play with fewer
leagues. But you either have to say here
is a transparent way. If you made a drop on how this
is going to work, you must message in by 8:00 AM on Monday
morning and we will review it onthe following criteria.
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I don't think that's a good idea.
I think that that is open to allkinds of crazy abuse if they do
that. But then you have to explain
this is how you can overturn a drop or not allow it.
I think this is the worst of allworlds, which is it's a black
box and nobody knows. To their credit, at least they
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are publishing when they have done it.
So at least we know it has been done and and that's not nothing.
So it's not being done like the how it's being done is is is is
a black box that it's been done.We know we don't know when it's
asked for and not done. So we don't know the
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counterfactual. So that's a problem.
And as I posted a Discord and like, look, I'm not suggesting
you would ever do this. If I'm the NFB CS lawyer, let's
say hypothetically $200,000 switched hand because of this
kind of thing. And I could make the case very
clearly, you did this, this and I won the overall, the main
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overall by one points or I lost the overall by one point.
And but for this one opaque transaction that is not part of
the rules would have won. Or conversely, I made this
mistake. And if I'd been able to keep
Perkins, I would have won $200,000.
To me, if I'm the NFBC's lawyer,this is a real liability.
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And you can say well, but they have the the catch all clause,
all of our decisions are final. And therefore they can rely on
that. We made this decision.
We can make whatever decision wewant.
But the reality is you're running this kind of game.
If you have unwritten rules thatyou follow sometimes but not
other times, then you can createthere.
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There is. I could make a good case on why
you screwed me out here. This is you did not follow your
own rules here. And if I'm the NFB CS lawyer, I
say either you have to cut this out or you have to clarify the
rules and embedded in the rules so there's transparency and
consistency in application. Easier to me, to my mind, to
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just not allow for anybody. No exceptions, no crying to
daddy. The only exception would be the
IT goes down at 9:30 and we'd all acknowledge if there's like
a catastrophic failure of IT, then everything has to be out
the window and everything like it sucks, but but that happens.
That's not what we're talking about here.
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If the system is working all dayand at 9:59, at 10:10 O1, the
easiest thing is to say you cannot change anything.
Sucks to be you or you. I think you have to have
transparency on how we're doing this.
Yeah, and then maybe transparency on everybody who
submits one that got accepted orit should be denied and not and
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not just your league, right. I mean, they just e-mail you if
it's your league and then they post in their discord to to the
main lobby that this is the smooth that's been rolled back.
But I totally agree, I don't think it should be allowed at
all. Like and and and and you've, you
see people in the discord echo exactly how a lot of people
feel. I left my home league drama with
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rules that no one could follow and we couldn't cement to come
to an arena, a format where we didn't think this would happen.
And it's happening. There's no doubt and it's even
if there's like, look, this is football season for them.
This is how they pay their bills.
I don't it's they're doing the best they can.
So I'm not I'm really not shitting on any of the staff at
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the NFBC, but it it creates all kinds of like awful perceptions.
Like it really looks it's a bad bad look for the NFBC.
This. Yeah, yeah.
I'm just trying to think in my head like the same thing.
I I don't have any ill will towards anyone there.
It's just like, who are they trying to accommodate by doing
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this, right? Yeah, who?
Who? Who are the people that lead
this rule to be available? And this is what I don't.
This is what I fucking don't understand.
If I cut 1 Soto by mistake, I know exactly what my e-mail
would be like. I'd be like, Oh my God, clearly
I didn't mean to do this. I meant to do this.
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Do me a solid and just reverse this.
I don't understand how you have two obscure players and make the
like relatively obscure players.Like what does the e-mail even
say? I screwed up.
Well, how did you screw up? Like their their names aren't
similar like Rosario. Rosario.
At least I understand Rob how that happens.
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I don't even understand how you have like the shame, like the
the, the, the, the like how do Imake the case I screwed up here?
Like it's it's just so weird. So that's what I also there
there's been no explanation on like, how did you make this
mistake? Like you like they're they're
they're not the same names, they're not the same players and
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it's not like you cut a superstar by mistake.
So like it's just it's so obscure and and but I find the
argument like who cares? This isn't going to actually
swing anything entirely not compelling.
It shouldn't matter. It's like if you have rules, it
should not matter. That isn't that is not
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compelling to me at all. If they did us again, if it was
the second week of the season and a first time player cut
their like second round pick by mistake and it's like I'm just
learning the IT. I don't again, I think they
should have a like, sorry, like we're all grown-ups rule.
But I also think that from a business perspective, like
overturning that, I think 99.9 of a percent of us would shrug
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our shoulders and say, yeah, no,that's fair.
Like whatever that's do them a solid like I really do.
I don't think most people who play the NFBC are like so
competitive that we just want tobe assholes about it.
Right? Like this is not that.
This is not that at all exactly.It's just people were quick to
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defend the move. Perkins is irrelevant.
Thomas sucks too. It doesn't matter.
It's so not the fucking point. You know, Churrio's coming back.
There was such a list of excuses.
I'm like, stop, stop doing this.Stop making excuses.
That's so not the point. It doesn't fucking matter,
right? Like there was news throughout
the weekend that Blake Perkins sat a lot because he was getting
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over the loss of somebody. That's why he went on
believement lead and they gave him a couple extra games.
We could read that on Monday morning and be like, oh, maybe I
got the wrong guy, like or he's in the starting or.
Or, or, and again, I'm not making allegations because we
have no idea what happened. I looked at everybody.
I, I aggregated all the cuts across all leagues and saw which
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of these two players was cut more often and trusted the
judgement of the crowd, the wisdom of the crowd.
I don't know. Yeah, so on on one of my 15 team
leagues, I again this weekend, just like the old school had a
had a double Perkins and you know how many times they made
sure I dropped Jack. I kept Blake for this week like,
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but you know how many times theylooked at it and I was like, am
I dropping? I, I would be, I'd be so
paranoid like at at at 955, I'd be like in cold sweats,
convinced that I screwed this all up.
Yeah, Yeah. It's just they should, they just
need to be better with it. Like you said, it's have nothing
like 0 tolerance or a strict criteria and then have everybody
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know when there's been a move that's been denied or accepted
like with clear rules. Yeah, like there should be.
There's a special e-mail addressthat you have to e-mail into.
If this is, if this is an optionto overturn drops, they're
they're like, who do you e-mail in?
What time do you have to do it? And what, what are times that it
will be accepted? What are times that it will not
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be accepted? I think that's a black box
you're opening. I think it's a terrible idea to
start doing that, but that's theonly alternative.
This doesn't work. But this doesn't work.
This is. This is not why.
And what I'll say is when this has happened in the past, cuz
this is not the first year that obviously Rob this has happened,
the people who are like the mostpissed off about this, like
pause Ma, I remember being like pause Ma doesn't get pissed off.
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I don't see. And maybe he does.
I don't know what he does behindclosed doors, but like pause Ma
was outraged. Like it's good players who like,
if you give them the opening that this is now part of the
game. I think that all of us, like,
I'd love their law. Often times I am torn between
two guys to cut. And if you give me until 8:00 AM
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on Monday, there may be a piece of information that I glean that
if it's an option to switch because now this is now part of
the game, then I would take advantage of that. 100% suppose
that. But then we've just changed the
game. That's OK.
As long as all of us know we've changed the game, then let's
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change the game. We don't have to pick who we cut
until Monday morning. What?
We get to pick up guys Sunday night at 10, but we choose
Monday like it doesn't work. That's not the game we're
playing, so stop it. Drop, pick up now, pay later,
drop later. I mean, how often are we
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watching the Sunday night baseball game and it's like
10:00's coming. I don't know which reliever is
going to get the save. I have both.
I mean, this is an extreme example.
I have both on my bench. One of them's going to get the
save. One of them should be dropped.
I don't know. I have to make the call right
now. It would be real sweet to be
able to wait till Monday. I don't know if this guy's going
to get activated tomorrow. If he's activated for his start
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next week, then he's a great guyto have have on my team.
If he's going to be out until Wednesday, I can't use him in my
lineup right now and I want to cut him.
It'd be awesome to be able to wait till Monday morning to find
that out right like this again, that's not what happened here,
but it's anyways. I wasn't even as angry as you
were because it's not my league and I don't think this
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ultimately again effects that. But it's it's, it's been going
on for too long. Yeah, totally agree.
Totally agree. Like it's like I said, I hit
close to home. It's a real like close to and I
just, I just, I was livid about it.
I still AM. And and got me really amped up
yesterday at the MEC game. I brought that energy into the
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Phillies crowd. Now, now that now that we've
spent 1/2 hour kicking the crap out of the NFPC.
You did the first NFPC draft of the year last week, Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. So it goes.
I know you've talked about it already, but what what was like
kind of the big picture take away that you took from from
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this one? Oh man, big picture take is that
we're we're everybody's really super sharp in in this league.
And that's what I just love about actually doing it.
It's just that it's amazing how everyone is just so tuned in.
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I know there's some pics like, you know, Twitter, like, Oh my
God, isn't that? But on the whole, I don't feel
like anyone was really missed. You know, maybe a couple
players, but like, that's just gonna happen when we have no ADP
and no projections and we'll just go blind.
Well. Because the first, first, first
point, just on that, it's not a mock draft.
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You guys play this out and like,I like that you know who's won
this draft for the last few years.
So it's like it's not winning the overall.
But like, for a bunch of guys who like win lots of leagues,
there's a certain prestige aboutbeing able to take down a league
in August, the following October.
Yeah, 100% agree with that. Yeah, Weimer is on his way to a
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back to backer and he for the for the third straight year I
took Joey Otani, you know, this time it was first and 1st
overall. I think the first year he got
him was really kind of late, butyeah.
And, and it's, I think the second thing that that came to
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my mind is man, like recency bias.
I know we try so hard to defuse it as much as we can, but it's,
it's really interesting how people handle it differently.
You know, like think a lot of people will will buy more into
it. And then you could tell who's
more willing to go into that like regression style drafting
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where you like, you could see someone who had maybe ADP baked
in lit like this year, ADP bakedinto their formula a little bit
or them sheet that that like were like, Ah, well, why is this
guy going so late? You know, and I think that's the
biggest that's the biggest thingthat in my brain I was trying to
not use so much because I I totally get it.
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I'll use that like next year when we really start moving with
ADP and things start to fall like like finalized.
But I, I honestly was trying to say I don't give a shit about
last year's ADP so much. Like it just doesn't mean too
much to me right now. I'm just, I'm so into the, you
know, how everyone's playing now.
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I'm not really focusing on what's going to happen last
year. Personally, I think I I missed a
couple of guys that I think I look back on my pics and I'm
like, I think I would have done things a little differently.
And maybe it's a little bit in hindsight, but like, to me,
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Shane Bieber going in the 10th round was an absolute fucking
steal by Greg Martin. That's just one of those things
where I look back on and and I know we didn't see it yet, but
did we have to see it? You know, I guess the thing
people keep bringing up, yeah, but you know, we didn't really
see him. I'm like, I don't give a shit
like. No, I think if Bieber, if Bieber
gives up seven runs on Friday, Istill think 10th round is good
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value for him for next year. 100percent, 100%.
His projections next year will probably come in where he's a
top 4 five round. And, and even if you want to
discount it a tiny bit, I mean, he's going to be a long way off
of Tommy John, right? Like he's a long way off of
Tommy John by next year. So even if you're somebody, if
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you buy into the doctor, Dave and Jeff Zimmerman, like first
year off of Tommy John can be a little bit rough in terms of
command control. He's a long way away from
surgery by by next March, April.100% and he's on a really good
team that has a dynamic offense right now, you know, good pen.
And I just feel like, yeah, he should have been that.
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That's one of the ones I look at.
I'm like, I can't believe I tookEdward Cabrera over.
But you know, I mean, it's I just forgot he he actually just
got lost in my sheet. I and I remember when I actually
like had him and I was in my head, I'm like, I got to move
them up in my sheet and I totally forgot to adjust some
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things. And you know, it is one of this.
I think it's. Well, it's also it's, it's, it's
while you guys take it seriously, it's also not a draft
you can dedicate 50 hours of prep to.
And as I say, there is no ADP, so you truly are starting with
an empty screen. Like you can download anything.
You can take steamer 600, you can take, you know, the current
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player rater, you can take whatever you want to take, but
you're doing it all. And it may be an important draft
to you. But like if, if you have 50
hours to dedicate to prep to this, I would say maybe you
should start going for more walks or like the local
Community Center and like take out more stuff because you
can't, you can't like it's real life.
You can only you can only dedicate so much to a.
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Is it a one? Is it a 150 DC in the end?
Yeah, yeah. 150 DC Yeah, yeah. So is it maybe, maybe it's worth
more like in terms of prestige and like competitiveness than
than a regular 150 DC. But there's only so much time.
You also have your current teams.
You have like everything else you do.
Right, That's the thing. It's it's it's try not to, you
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know, you're trying to close outsome leagues and bring home some
coin in your in your now leagues.
And and it's like I felt the same thing every every day.
I got I have my list of things do and like, you know, that was
at the end, but we're still likea star next door.
Like, don't, don't do too much too late, you know?
And I just remember it being Tuesday the day before the
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draft. Like, fuck, you know, that's why
I really got to, I really got tolook at it.
Weimer has the advantage that all of his teams are already so
far in first. He doesn't really need to do
anything for his current team. Yeah.
So he could already really be full on next year draft prep
because he's already he's already mastered this year.
Yeah, he's he's he's so and and it's amazing that both of his
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teams in the past two years havebeen around the top 100 in the
overall for this league that we thought August this this this
year, this league won't be a part of the overall because
there were several complaints that is hand picked leagues and
apparently those won't be part of the overall anymore.
So if you have a hand picked league and there were several
people who are complaining that there was, there's that there
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was several advantages to drafting in August, like Steve
Weimer getting Wyatt Langford inthe 11th round last year of like
how about the guys, the seven guys who were out for the year
before fucking December came that we picked in a top 11.
Can we talk about that people? No, people just want to bitch.
It's amazing that some of the anyways, I was gonna say it's
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amazing how some people see advantages by drafting against
like 14 really tough people in August.
It also see no no advantage about being able to undo friggin
drops. It's really incredible.
It's really fun. That's the same fucking crowd
right there. That's the same people.
It's really, it's really wild tome and to be.
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Fair. I don't even necessarily
disagree like I'm I'm fine with all of these leagues like this
league being a stand alone. The the the the leagues at first
pitch Arizona being stand. I'm fine with that.
Whatever you'd be. You're doing this draft for
another reason. If you're doing this draft
thinking you're somehow gaining an advantage for the overall,
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then your Galaxy like nobody. Nobody signed up for this August
draft thinking this is my path towards winning the overall next
year. That was my original e-mail to
all these people in 2021. Hey guys, I have a great way to
win the overall early. Yeah.
I've come up with a sharp scam that I don't.
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I think it's going to take thoseidiots at least four years to
catch on to. Totally.
This is something it's really like.
Nobody, please. Nobody forward gentlemen's
agreement. Nobody forward this e-mail to
Greg or to Zach. Absolutely.
It's, you know, we just have a really competitive group and
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it's just, it's just fun. A lot of people in the league go
with a lot of content with it, like James Anderson and Bubba
and Bloomfield. And it's just so much fun.
It's it's just and and it's coolto hear the talking points.
You know, I've been pretty much not listening to other pods this
year. I had to like I have to have
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some time of my day, Rob, when it's not dedicated to fantasy
baseball. So it's like, you know, like,
no, that has to be music or something else.
Like when I go for a walk. It can't be more fantasy
baseball. But making making beet juice and
and then back to the the fantasy.
Yeah, 100% so but it was cool tohear, you know, like a lot of
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people time in on how they felt about the draft and it's always
an interesting, you know, part of it.
I think it's, you know, I think there's going to be as always,
but there's going to be the realization that some of these
players, because a lot of the ADP doesn't really deviate too
much from these first couple drafts.
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You know, like they're going to be some players.
They're like, holy shit, like they'll be a Max on like Bieber.
That's probably going to be his Max like all season long.
But most of the players inside the top 10 rounds are are really
kind of going to stay around their area.
And it's just that that that that realization of wow, is this
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guy this round pick now, you know, and that's some of the
that was my favorite part of doing this draft is looking into
the players that don't have and I haven't really dove too much
into because you know, we're spending time on these one war
players, these half war players all year long.
Who am I going to pick up in FabBrooks fucking Baldwin or Blake
Perkins? You know, So then it comes to
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looking at these players again. It got me excited like, Ah, this
is great. Like look at these numbers.
These guys hang up and I remember my so my third round
pick I went with with my third overall and then Jazz to them.
You know, my second overall Jazzwas like a little interesting
pick for me because it come it came down to 1 when you filter
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to second base you went. Whoa.
It's bad. This this gets really bad really
quick. And yeah, there's some later
depth, like guys like Xander Bogart didn't get, you know, but
he's not going to qualify for 2nd next year.
So anyway. And then we're like Jazz is like
staring me in the face, not onlyin like the SGP, but just like,
wow, this guy is still getting better too.
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Like his his getting better across the board.
And he's still on this dynamic offense, the top of the lineup.
So I'm like, this makes sense because I was like, if if it's
him or Marte there, I think I'm going to do it in the third
round. I end up taking James Wood, but
I almost took Hunter Green thereor Christopher Sanchez.
I had I had a couple pictures there and and the ground.
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That was my big group. But Hunter Green I'm just like,
I'm like this guy's last 38 starts.
He has a .99 WHIP and a 270 RA. At what point are we going to
start taking that? Like this is real.
He could pitch in Great Americanballpark.
I know he has some injuries thatbut he's a stud.
So I passed on him for James Wood and it came back around and
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Dominic Rewell took Green right before me.
And then I'm like, God, I need to get I need to get a starting
pitcher here. What do I do?
And then through my prep, I keptlooking at my Brian Wu has been
absolutely incredible. Like he made me the best Mariner
pitcher like for fantasy right now.
And and I was like, am I really going to take Brian Wu?
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You know, it's one of the I justremember thinking like, is this
how I'm going to start it? Like I saw Dylan sees who, you
know, Weimer took next. Kirby was available too, but I'm
like, this seems like again in my sheet it came out, I tried to
balance like a skill sheet with an STP sheet for the rest of
season projections. And I was like, this is the the
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next guy on my board, I gotta take him.
And it's just wow. I mean, yeah, I pulled away from
it and I'm still like, wow. Brian Wu is an SP1.
It's crazy, but he is. I mean, he is, yeah.
I think we're going to spend a lot of time in the winter.
The top three starting pitchers I think are pretty are pretty
obvious and you can debate whichorder they should go in amongst
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the top three. I think then like who comes
after them, and obviously I meanschool ball schemes and crochet,
who comes 4th, 5th, 6th, I thinkwill be a fun and then
eventually tedious debate after there.
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And I think maybe like, yeah, I think that'll be a really
interesting discussion that willeventually become very boring.
Right, especially with like there was a fourth guy, Jack
Wheeler that and that would havebeen a no doubt like, you know,
so and it's obviously it's goingto be a lot of you know, doubts
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hovering around him. You know, Mel Kelly did come
back from something similar. So, you know, there's there's
hope that he can resume pitching.
Bubba took him in the fourth round, which I thought was a
good risk reward spot. I mean, we didn't really have
two like we had some news, but not like the what exactly he had
performed on yet. So, you know, that may be a
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little early, but I'm still finewith, like taking a shot at that
point because if it works out, you know, that's a that's a
really good, like, value shot. Yeah, I totally agree with like,
who's the next? Like Chris Sale went forth, you
know, then it was Gilbert, Joe Ryan, Hunter Brown, Yamamoto
Sanchez, degrom. All those guys have probably a
case. Blake Snell, you know all those
guys have a case to be in that picture.
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I think if Sale comes back this weekend and gets five weeks of
dominant Chris Sale, then he's back into the discussion up
there. There'll be some drafters who
are like, he's old and the injury risk still feels real to
me, and that's fine. But but I think if he has a
dominant stretch, I think Joe Ryan's a pretty safe good pick
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there. But yeah, like Woo, who is an
SP1 next year and like, like, unless something weird happens
down the stretch, I think that'swe just kind of have to
internalize that's who he is now.
Yeah, it's just so, so many plays.
Like what do you think about theNick Kurtz with the second pick
of the second round? I think that that's gonna that
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it's it's like right now that's a whoa.
I think as people dig in fully, like especially people who don't
have Kurtz on their teams, they're gonna realize, yeah, no,
that's that's like, like put Junior Caminero, Kurtz, Vlad
Freeman, all of these guys in a bag, Manny Machado, shake them
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up. And it's like, you want the
young guy or do you want the older guy?
And there's arguments both ways.But like, Kurtz is totally like,
he's he's having a ridiculous season.
Not for a rookie. He's having a ridiculous season,
period. Period.
Yeah, so true. And Cabenero went in the first
round. That's what Bubba took him 12.
Yeah, that's, that's a bit aggressive for me.
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And I, I say as somebody who hasjunior Caminero is my most owned
player right now in, in the NFBC.
So I'm like madly in love with the young man.
That's aggressive. I just I.
Just I just like, I look, I loveJunior Caminero.
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I really do. I think he is totally legit.
I think he's a star, but you need to tell me like is the
batting average going up? I think it will go up.
Like I do think he's like a 270 type hitter.
Are the stolen bases going to goup?
No, like he's on Tampa. So I think like a 7 to 10 stolen
base kind of I hope I don't killyou in stolen bases.
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But like he's he look, he's I think he's he's I don't know
where he's on the player Raider this morning.
He went over 4 yesterday but I think he was 7th amongst hitters
after his big game two days 2 days ago.
So he obviously can produce first round value.
He is producing first round value.
I just don't know I'd want him as my first round pick if he was
at the turn. Like if I can get him in the
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second round, like if I can get Lindor in him, I don't know.
Like there, there are bills thathe works for, but that's a
little bit aggressive for me. That's not bad, but a little.
Bit that's actually who he landed in the second round was
Lindor, and he said he was thinking about Lindor.
Look, that's I might flip the tooth.
Like what the hell does Francisco Lindor have to do to
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get into the first round consistently?
Nobody likes it just so reason. It's really incredible.
It's a consistent 2828 thirty 30profile with a hundred runs and
it's just no buddy thinks it's real.
It's like you're building a stock portfolio and you have
this stock that consistently just returns, just returns like
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17%. And it's like a Big Blue chip
and everybody says, I don't want, I just don't want to lose
the draft in the first round. And you have this stock that
it's like you can just write in a pen at the beginning of the
year. This is what you're going to
get. You're not going to get 4040
like, but, but but you're also not going to like blow it there.
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And 15 guys in every single roomare like, Nah, that's not what
I'm looking for here. Yeah, it really, really, really
wild to me. I don't know, Rob.
Like coming here might do 45 and10 and he's 20.
No, I know. I know he's.
I'm not explain to me. I know, I know, I know.
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You've been talking about him all year.
I just can't say. I can't sit there and say
that's. Yeah, no, no, look, it's not a
bad pick. Like it's yeah, it feels, no.
No. Yeah, maybe.
This is this is how maybe this is how it is every year.
It looks like I I got him at pick 7580 last year.
Why would I spend the first round pick?
It's because he fled 4510. Yeah, and he's a young buck
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who's still learning how to hit.It's, you know what I love about
him? He's like he has him.
Soto and Judge have at least nine home runs to each part of
the field, oppo straight and pull, and it's just like if you
looked at his spray chart on Savant.
I really it's so it's a thing ofbeauty.
Even even as a lover of pull hitters, that guy really has no
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weak spot on the field. It's pretty impressive, man.
It's really is. There is there any way we can
create a narrative going into the winter that it was all
really Steinbrenner Field and that it was him playing in a
minor league stadium and you can't really take this seriously
to try to discount him a little bit.
I'm just. We can.
There's nobody who's going to buy that anywhere.
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There's some people who might buy that, I think.
So look. Vlad, Vlad had his only truly,
truly elite season when he was playing in Dunedin.
Maybe this is the best we ever see from Caminero because he's
playing in a minor league park this year.
Does that sound if I, if I do like a podcast tour and caution
people about that, do you think people will but start buying
that because it's not true? It's ridiculous.
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And I do think the batting average will go up like, so
that's the other thing is like the batting average is fine in
this context, but there's nothing about his profile that
says he can't be like A270280 hitter also to me.
Yeah, 100% and that's it. Yeah, that's the thing.
Like the K rate being at 20% just really cements.
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Yes, yeah, he swings hard. Like he, you know, one who
swings as hard as him doesn't strike out as as as least amount
as he does. Everyone's above 25% with the
bad speed that he has every, buthe's just sitting there lower
and it's just truly impressive. Would you take him or vibe right
now and next year? Yeah, yeah.
Like Vlad, Vlad's awesome real life player, but we play in a
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game where home runs are a category and I think Vlad's
batting average will be better than than Caminera.
But just the way SGP works, likea 300 from Vlad doesn't move the
difference between a 300 from Vlad and a 265 from or 270 from
Caminero doesn't move the the the needle as much as the
difference between 40 home runs and thirty home runs between the
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two of them. That those two, those ten home
runs, if that's where it sticks to, is a massive difference.
Yeah, here's another guy who I think those the the pick
differential might shock some people, Zach Netto in the middle
of the second round, but you know, he'll be fair.
You know, when we first started drafting in DCS last year, he
was a fourth, fifth round pick by by some people.
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And then he got the injury came out news and then it went back
to the two hundreds. But what you think about him in
the middle of the second round because another guy where you're
just like, really? But then you look at like, oh
shit, he's going to mic you 3030.
You know, I'll be, I'll be honest with you, Rob Nedo's one
of those guys I don't have on any team.
And like as you were saying, when you're prepping for like
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Fab each week, you don't look atguys who are 100% rostered.
So he's just not a guy I spend alot of time looking at.
I will in the offseason, obviously, but like, so I have
no strong feel on it because I just don't have them.
So I don't fully appreciate how good he's been.
Right, 100%, yeah, there's definitely so many guys like
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that where that came across. Would you think about like Bryce
Harper falling to the, like, back end of the third round with
Freddie Freeman? It seems like good value,
though, where they went, you know?
Totally. Bryce Harper's like, yeah, he's,
he's, he's not my trout. Like he Bryce Harper plays and
he humps it. I love Bryce Harper.
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Yeah, absolutely. Any any shocking pick you
thought like in a top five or three rounds that you.
Nothing that really jumped out at me.
Is it traditional that unlike the DC's, once the winter gets
started, that closers don't get pushed up?
Because obviously that is one ofthe things in DC early DCADP is
guys who were good traditionally.
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We'll see if this is this year is any different than every
other year. Seemingly closers with jobs get
pushed up wildly. I know you said on last week's
launch angle that you were not going to you're going to wait
until the winter like until around the second part of the
draft to get a bunch of spec closers, old closers, different
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different arms. Is that how this draft works?
Typically Is is it's not as wilda closer inflation as regular
DCS early I? Think there was that one year
that that there was a high, everyone moved to the high, you
know, picks. I figure maybe two years ago
where like there was a lot of double tap in two relievers,
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first kind of second, third round.
I think that year was the year that maybe we kind of drafted
them a little earlier. And I don't know if the move to
be in a stand alone league had any effect on how anyone thought
about draft in the closest. So this may not be a true
representation of like how the DCS with overalls would go.
But yeah, I think generally, I think, you know, seeing Felix
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Bautista two years ago get drafted by roof in the second
round, then had shoulder, you know, obviously it happened to
anyone. But I think there was a little
bit more of, like, hesitancy toward how to treat these
closers for me. Yeah.
I mean, in this league, this year, I didn't draft 1 into the
top. Top 11 last year, came back into
the draft in October, you know, with the full draft room, I'm
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like, holy shit, I'm in trouble,right.
So picked like Justin Martinez in round 13 or 14 and then later
in the 200 I picked Hoffman and a world is Batman going with the
skills overall type of, you know, look at it.
And I think I'm just going to dothe same thing like target guys
like Griffin Jacks or Edwin Useta, like somewhat like people
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with just extreme skill sets andlike 2-3 hundred.
And then you have those dinosaurs that no one likes,
like, you know, Carlos Estevez, Kyle Finnegan, not not Kyle
Finnegan himself, maybe like next year, but those kind of
guys that everyone's like, Ah, but they're, you know, but their
skills are, but they get 30 saves and those always going to
200. So I think there's going to be
options. And I wanted to like just kind
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of go that same route again. Yeah, No, I think that's a smart
way. Is your gut that when DC's get
drafting for real around Thanksgiving that closers do go
back up or do you think there isa kind of league wide
adjustments that you don't need to do that because you can get
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Henley Jansen in the 11th round,whoever that version of that is
this year I. Don't think there's going to be
any drastic difference in approach to them.
I think it's going to be pretty similar to like this past
season. You know, I think there's,
there's going to be the studs that you know, I have a lot of
Edwin Diaz and I'll do it again.Honestly, if he he went in the
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fourth round, like if he would have made it back to me in the
back end of the 4th, I probably would have foregone like taking
a starter 1st to take Edwin Diazbecause he's just I I know the
saves accumulation isn't like top level, but the skill set and
what he brings to you with everything else is just he has
just not giving up runs anymore.It's just wild.
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And I think those kind of guys like Will will still go in the
3rd 4th consistent and then havethat little lol you know, and
then and they'll be some scattered in the 80 ish mark.
But you know, it's it's definitely different right now
just looking at it like Ryan Vanish eighth round, Steve
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Weimer took Ryan Helsley 11th round.
Both guys who are struggling, right, with new teams, free
agents that people are definitely going to look at and
say, yeah, the body of work probably indicate that we should
maybe try to sign this guy. The closer those two picks.
I mean, watching Helsley right now, I don't like it doesn't
feel good to me. But just knowing that, you know,
historically, this is the worst stretch of his career.
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Like that pick in the 11th roundmight be pretty freaking good,
but it could also be like, hey, he never finds his slider again
and he can't pitch anymore. But Devin Williams too, It's
like that's like trying to the projective agents now going to a
new team and reclaiming their forty save status.
Those could be two excellent picks, you know.
Could you imagine, assume Helsley like September goes the
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way that the last few weeks havegone for him?
Do you imagine being a fan of a team and the announcement comes
across the wire that your team has signed that guy to be your
closer? To talk about like where where
like every big market team who wanted a closer would be in line
for him now. Now it's just like the
Pittsburgh Pirates might go out and sign them, you know, like.
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That Colorado Rockies have signed Ryan Helsley as they're
being on. We feel like we're turning the
corner here and we brought in Ryan Helsley to lock down the
bullpen. And, you know, had tip to Greg
Jewett. He's just an absolute star in in
in in the fantasy game and just real life too.
It's a great human being. But in in in his write up during
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the year, he he was just mentioning casually like, hey,
you know, Helsley's doesn't lookright, you know, and he was cat
pointing out the slider not being as effective and not
getting as much chase and being a little bit worse than his own.
And I just remember keep going up, you know, greeting it and my
God, yeah, you know, I go look at it.
So the Mets like and now it's like, my God, that's fine.
The Mets are you know, they can they have this pitching lab.
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I'm sure they'll adjust him to maybe try to make him sharp
again. And just watching him, it's just
like, you know, he has this fastball that doesn't move.
It's like one of those what theycall dead zone.
It's just the, you know, everyone can hit it.
It's it's very easy to hit. And then the slider is just not
fooling anyone. And that that, yeah, it's it's
just crazy. But yeah, you know.
All those I have a name for those pictures, they're called
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Bailey Obers. They're Bailey Obers.
Where the Jays broadcast yesterday before Hoffman ruined
the game, I was talking about Bailey Ober and they were raving
about like his extension. How like a 92 mile an hour
fastball looks like it's 97 because Bailey Ober has one of
the the longest extensions in inthe game and it's so hard to hit
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him. And then it's like pow, pow,
pow. And it's like, no, these are
batting practice pitches. Batman.
Batman. Pow.
Pow. Seriously, how?
How are your teams doing? Good I mean it's probably my
best stretch of the season. That's awesome perform my fab
weeks. Yeah, it's still not, you know,
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like winning any of them, but like it it's it's crazy.
I'm like a between my 15 team leagues like an average of like
98 points across the five, but I'm not winning any of that.
I just want to get so anyway, I'm close.
I'm closing one CLQ moving up. I'm in the top 18 now like 80
points behind the the last spot,which could change too because
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Toby is not only almost winning the Champions League, but he's
also on the top 15. So he could he could gain, we
could gain another spot if if heif he gets in that spot.
But. I mean Toby.
Like Toby, Yeah, I mean like themain the main event first people
as of now looks pretty locked up, but Toby's up there in the
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in the main event as well. We need a new name.
We would need a name for a new like Lindy If if Toby somehow
wins champions and the main events in the same year.
Oh 100% yeah. He's he's having a studly year
as as as always. So he's super there's there's
there's ton of people that are just if you go across the
overall, that's Brian Edward, Dan Iverson guys who are in the
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discord too. Just that's really crushing
across so many formats. It's good for them.
Like it's also Missy. But yeah, just trying to
closeout these leagues like withminimal fab left and all these
moves I've been thinking about so much more than than ordinary
right? Like how far can this dollar
take me? You know, and there's still a
couple that I wish I had back. Like what?
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Why did I fucking take a shot onBob Seymour?
Like, what was I thinking? As much as I need power, like,
what was I thinking? You know, So to those those
moves have to get really finalized.
How's your batting average star team in the main event?
Overall, as of this morning, we're recording on Wednesday
morning up to 27th overall in the main, which is which is the
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highest it's been all year. And as I keep saying to my
partner, my son, as long as there are more days left in the
season than places we are in, aslong as we move up one spot
every single day, then we have we have ramp left, we have Rd.
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Rd. in front of us. The team unfortunately lost both
Zach Wheeler and Nate Gianvaldi in the last like 5 days.
So that's not perfect for the team.
The only good news is when you've had Nate Givaldi and Zach
Wheeler all season, your ratios are are pretty solid.
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So like it's not a good thing that you've lost them.
I can still gain a lot of pointsin wins and strikeouts, but I
have enough ratio that like it'sit sucks but like it's an
excuse. That's not the problem.
The problem is still the battingaverage.
Last night my team had one of those nights where it's like the
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great thing about having a shitty batting average is like
if you have 40 at bats and are like at 400 batting average, it
goes up. Like it can go up still.
And in the overall, there are somany points.
Like this is the thing. If I average my point total in
the other 9 categories and gave myself that average for the 10th
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category, I'm in second place overall.
Wow. So that tells you how bad my
batting average is. And it makes no freaking sense.
I have Yandi Diaz on this team. I have Juan Soto on this team.
I have Ronald de Cunha on this team.
Like I have so many guys. And like, yeah, Ozzy Alby's has
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had had a shit batting average, but it's not that bad.
It's not like I have a bunch of 180, so it makes no sense that
my batting average is quite thisbad.
And like there's no chance I'm going to win the overall.
Like it's just too far. But like it would make it's,
I'll be honest, like, and I saidthis previously, Rob, it's just
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friggin fun having a team to check every 5 minutes when
baseball is being played. And I don't mean that as loser
talk like I'm going to. I have $6 in FAB left so I am
truly sweating every single. Move and I have to, I dropped
Wheeler, I have to drop Evaldi obviously.
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And like, like I picked up JorgePolanco last week because I had
a a week middle infield spot andit was took everything for me to
bid $2.00 instead of $1.00 on Polanco.
And if I did $1.00, the problem with being in first place, the
good, I mean the problem. So no problems with being in
first place in your league. The problem is you will not win
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the tiebreaker for any free agent.
So if you're bidding $1.00 in every free agent, I First off
have found this year bidding $1.00 on free agents, there have
been very few guys I really want.
Like by definition I wasn't going to get Bieber.
So maybe it's just a mental adjustment that you're like, I
can't get this guy. I may put him first in my my bid
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list, but there's zero chance ina 15 in a 12 team league,
there's a chance everybody else is checked out or something. 15
seem like there's no chance in amain event.
But I've gotten pretty much everybody I've wanted.
And if it's not who I wanted, I got the third guy in bid list
and I've been fine with everything.
So I like, I have, I, I am adjusting my thinking of I'd
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rather have $20 than $6 if I'm being honest, just because I'm
going to run out of moves. But I, but, but I, if you told
me Rob, I'll give you $20.00, but you can never bid $2.00 on
another player for the next 5 fab periods.
I'd be like sold. I'll take that.
Yeah, yeah, 100% it's did. I made a mistake like this two
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weeks ago. I calculated my overspend on on
on my my main event team and then just gone to the players
themselves and just been like, oh, Rob, come on, man, you got
to be better next year to so many for and for every Joe Adele
Barger, Kyle Stowers that I added in the mains for like 30
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bucks, there's the eastern location I paid 30 bucks for and
and and you know, whoever else that I'm just like, why?
What happened to my brain at that point of the season?
Just really, I mean, I for me, it was I, I added on this team,
Caglione and Mauricio, like one on the same weekend.
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I went crazy. I was like, I was rich and then
I was poor. But I'm like, but I have I have
two empties. But I'm gonna have my middle
infield is now solid and I have the best power average bats
that's gonna come on the market,so I'm set.
It's worth it, and my pitching is so good.
This is enough what I need. And Needless to say, neither are
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on my team anymore. Yeah.
But but as you say, I also got Raymond Lauriano for like $4.00
and he's been better than Jack Caglione.
I don't know, I'm making up for $4.00, but it was like it was
nothing. And he's better than Caglione
could possibly have ever been for me.
So these things you can't say. On the one hand, Oh my God, I, I
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set this money on fire. Obviously I did.
And on the other hand, what a genius I am with Ramon Lariano.
He you know what, he's so interesting because again, I was
just prepping for this draft, right?
And it would be so stupid to take Loriana on the top 11
rounds. And I look back though, I had
one sheet of my SDP sheet that had included last calendar year,
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right? And of stats included.
And it was something I was keeping an eye on.
I had a column from my sheet. And he has been an absolute stud
for two years now, year and a half firm.
But and I'm just wondering like,but then in your back of your
brain is like the Braves let this guy go after a torrid
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stress last year and he just randomly got signed.
Like it's like, is he going to be taken seriously again this
offseason? Because this guy, I don't know,
Rob, he's just we keep trying todoubt the reasons like, Oh, it's
you know, this week. I remember I had a couple of
questions about private dams, like, Oh, well, he's at Seattle,
though this week. I start this guy, I'm like, who
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gives a shit about Seattle? At Seattle, This guy is.
Is the best one of the best hitters well and clearly?
The I mean. And yet the and yet the Padres
keep batting him like 7th and 8th.
I know, right? Wild.
It's like. What kind of frigging pictures
does Louis Saraias have of the manager that they keep batting
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him second and think that we can't get our best hitter right
now higher than 7th? Like 100%.
Wild. Anyways, we care.
They're winning, so they don't care.
But. Yeah, 100%.
Anything else you want to? Nah, this is fun.
Get to today. Cool, good stuff.
What do you got planned for the rest of the week?
Anything good? Anything fun?
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Bit of work? Yeah, nothing big.
Are you doing anything for LaborDay?
Yeah, I'm going to try to add EUback into Labor Day for the US,
no. Why?
Why isn't it there? Nobody knows.
Nobody knows just. Glamour.
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Only glamour. Glamour's the only one.
I can't help but think about nowthat with Labor Day, like it's
just, it's popular in my brain. Yeah, I'm just going to
hopefully, you know, down here in the Jersey Shore in the beach
area, it gets really, it's funnyto me from the beach, but we
don't like to go when it's like swamped, you know, with people.
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So. But I don't know, it might be
like just like an outside, like relax and, you know, put the TV
outside by the patio set and just like hang out and.
That's all acts. You know, yeah.
And then? And then you can go to the beach
on Tuesday when all the kids areback at school.
You can 1000%. You can go to the beach the next
day and it'll be empty. That's exactly the move.
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That's local season here. We call that local, local beach
season in September. It's when all the New Yorkers
stopped coming through, which which used to be me, you know,
when I used to not live in New Jersey because the the beaches
in Brooklyn aren't great. So good stuff, Rob.
We'll catch you next week. And this is fun.
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And thanks for everyone for listening to the long dangle
pod. Catch you later.
Man, that's too funny.
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Here's the pitch. All righty, we're back on the
launch angle pod. I'm Rob D I'm here with Rob
Silver. Rob, good morning.
And you're wearing a hoodie. It's August, though.
What's? What's going?
On it's it's a brisk morning. I don't I don't want to go full
Mudika and just talk about the weather.
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But yeah, no, it's it's it's brisk here and fall is coming.
We're almost at a Labor Day. I believe even in geckos world,
we're allowed to look at the standings from now.
Right, Rob? Like it's not too early anymore
to look at the standings in yourface.
I think Labor Day was his his his day.
I will. I found myself a peek at how my
teams are doing on Labor Day weekend.
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Oh God, that's that's still one of the most astounding things
I've ever heard, you know? I don't believe.
I don't believe it to this day. I've I've never I've never
believed it from the start because I just don't.
I don't think, I don't think you're able to win that many
main event leagues without looking at the fucking standings
from the from the get go. You know there's.
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Also, how do you know which players you tell the NFPC you
want to drop on Monday? Unless you know how your team is
doing, you need to know that to be able to to backfill your
moves Monday morning. He didn't even look at stats for
the guys, he just knows. He just knows.
Intuitive. It's intuitive.
Yeah, it's it's it's all superpower that we we don't
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possess, you know? Yeah, it's, yeah, it's the one
thing stopping me from winning main events.
It's the ability to secretly know how my players are doing.
They're not have to look at anything, you know, just yeah,
100% meta. I went to the Met game last
night, Rob, and I just want to say it, it was fucking electric.
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I wish that they didn't go into such a slump because I think we
got the Phillies by the necks right now.
You know, like. It's your sense, yeah.
I mean, look, we'll talk about Zach Wheeler, but is your sense
that there's a disconnect between Mets fans who go to the
game and, like, the online impression or like the talk
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radio esque Mets fans of being pissed off?
Because certainly when, when, when my son and I were at the
Mets game, they're like, they're100% like they're, they're
grumpy. But every baseball team thinks
is grumpy. Even if you're in first place,
you're grumpy when things are going well.
Is, is there a disconnect? Like do we get a the wrong
impression because of the onlinepresence?
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Or are are Mets fans like they're nervous and they're
angry because this was supposed to be a powerhouse team and
like, it's obviously now you're in a good, you're going to make
the playoffs, but it's a, it's abit of a struggle.
There's definitely a disconnect.I would say earlier in the year
there was no feeling of Oh my God.
Now there's definitely is some and it's and you hear it in like
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slightly more booze that we heard in the beginning of the
year, you know, But like, it's still not as bad as yeah, I had
to. I'm I'm very close to muting
Mets on Twitter because it is just everyone is just so they're
just so hung up on on on being pessimistic and fuck Sterns and
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fuck Mendoza and this and that. And it's like, guys, we're in
the playoffs easy right now. Easy.
We still got a shot of the division and we're bringing up
the best fucking pitching prospect in baseball.
But like, but, you know, they wanted this done in May and they
didn't really like no one, you know, like, this is all part of
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the plan. First, third.
This was all like, written, you know, on a piece of paper for
him. It's like actually developing
the way he wants to. You know, Ryan Helsley's
worrisome, you know, like, he again got shelved last night and
he got booed. He deserves to get booed.
He doesn't deserve an entrance song.
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I'm sorry. Like, no, no, no, no, you can't.
Like that's a mistake they made from the start.
They gave him his entrance song for the 8th inning.
You need to earn that. You need to earn music in the
8th in New York. I'm sorry.
And now that he's shitting himself, he shouldn't get it.
Like that should be. Has there ever been like an
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eighth inning guy who has it like a walk in song?
I've never even. That's a great question.
It's like a great question. It's like and and, and what if
the Mets decide to deploy him inthe 6th inning because there's a
tough part of the lineup coming out?
Do you play like a bitch song inthis?
That's fun. That's messed up.
It's for closers. It's for closers for sure and if
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you want to make the guy feel athome I get it, but make him earn
it first. I I mean like.
I can understand if you had likethe Yankees bullpen when they
had like Mariano Rivera is the 8th inning guy and John Wetland
in the 9th, but Rivera was awesome.
I can understand that if if it was modern baseball, Obviously
back then they didn't have entrance songs.
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If you had like the Nasty Boys bullpen from the Cincinnati Reds
where you had like Dibble and Myers and like it was shut down
and all three of them are like just so dominant.
I can accept that. Norm Charlton.
Norm Charlton was the third. It was the three of them and
they were a wicked bullpen, right?
Like I can wrap my rat mind around, but that's, as you say,
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that's the kind of thing it's like, wow, it's like you pitch
73 innings in the 7th, 8th inning and you have a 142 ERA
and could be the closer, but we have a dominant closer too.
So we're going to show you some like that's I totally agree with
you, Rob. Like that's weird.
Right. If he was like crushing it and
then last night they'd go up to the Phillies and and and it's in
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the 8th inning and they just played it.
They wouldn't want everyone would have went bonkers.
But right now they need to treathim like a regular fucking
scurve who comes in at 6th inning because that's, that's
what he is. He's horrible.
And I, I'm shocked Mendoza keepsgoing to him.
I and I get, I get he knows thatthe best form of the Mets is if
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Ryan Helsley is nasty in the 8th, but he can't, he can't do
anything. And it's and it's awful.
I know Edwin Diaz had his back last night after the game.
He said, I've been through this.We we have it back, we'll get
him right. But it's still like you're
sitting there and he comes in and you know, it's not a good
feeling when you're like, fuck, Elsie's coming in.
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You know, it's bad. And he is.
But the music. Yeah.
So I do want to talk to about the NFBC controversy.
I don't know if it blows up to full scandal level cuz scandal
to me implies like some real like malfeasance, some like real
ill intent. I think this is I think this is
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a controversy. I think it's a mistake.
But I don't think, I don't thinkeven you or like who is
obviously kind of really upset about this yesterday, 2 days ago
would claim that there's like collusion or anything, like it's
just, it's a, it's a bad way that they're running their game.
But it's not, it's not like the previous scandal.
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You agree with that. So let's get that out of the
way. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's not, that's not close. There's no collusion going.
I mean, they're, they're no, they're not helping the person
who who they made the move for because he shipped on the NFPC
constantly. So no reason to help.
So. So.
So for people who have no idea what we're talking about, why
don't you give context about about kind of what, what set you
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off and what, what the NFPC has been doing in terms of in terms
of some adjustments to fab changes?
Yes, I got an e-mail at Five O'clock 5:00 PM Monday.
So that's a full how many hours after Fab 17?
No more than that 17. Hours.
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Yeah, yeah. 17 hours. Yeah, like anyways, the next
day, 24 hours later, basically. Yeah, pretty much that.
There's been a rollback in my league, and it was for someone
who dropped Blake Perkins and now they let him drop Kobe
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Thomas instead of Blake Perkins.And it doesn't, you know, on the
surface you're like. Who cares?
People are still saying, who cares?
You know, White Perkins Cheerioscoming back and they're trying
to defend it. So for me, I've always thought
this rule is stupid. It's just not necessary where
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there's a large scale event withlots of money on the table.
It could possibly alter standings.
You know we have a full fucking week from the last time we do
FAB to make sure we get this right.
But that let me just pause you there because you used a word
and this is what's not clear to me is you said there's a rule.
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So, and I think this is where this is the that word is the
crux of the issue. Who is allowed to reverse who
they dropped on Monday morning and who is not?
And under what circumstances will it be overturned and under
what circumstances will they saysorry?
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Let's the buyer beware, you screwed up.
Sucks to be you. And I am not clear because it's
not a rule if you just read the official rules that we are all
playing by the Constitution, an old kind of roto parlance.
There is nothing about being able to overturn transactions
written in there, at least not that on my ordinary reading on
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it. The only thing they can fall
back on me being putting my lawyer hat on is their decisions
are final and their decisions blah blah blah blah blah.
But in terms of if I was a firsttime player and I emailed in to
to one of the staff at the NFBC,whether it's at 11:00 PM on
Sunday night or 7:00 AM on Monday morning or noon on Monday
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morning and said, damn, I screwed up.
I released the wrong guy. I meant to release this guy
instead of this guy. Under what circumstances would
they say, no problem, I'll reverse that right, right away
for you? Or would they say it really
sucks Rob, but pay more attention next time.
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Yeah, there's nobody knows, nobody knows.
And, and, and we've had people, you know, in deployed of this
court talk about how they've been denied moves the following
day and some people obviously have had it allowed and it's
just sucked to not know. It's amazing.
I think I would bet you that about 90% of the NFPC players
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don't even know that they could do that.
Well, because they can't do it. Like it's not it's not a thing,
right? Like that's the thing.
It's not a thing. It shouldn't be a thing.
So what they're what they have been.
I have never heard contrary and I somebody please correct me if
I'm wrong. Where they are consistent is if
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you say I meant to bid on this player, but I bid on the wrong
guy. Two guys had the same last name.
I clicked on the wrong one and ho ho ho.
I have egg on my face. I bet $150 on a guy who's
playing in like in the Guatemalan league right now.
I think they have been consistent to the best of my
knowledge on saying that really sucks.
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We cannot we cannot overturn youbid on the wrong guy is that do
you agree with that Rob? They never they they they are
consistent on that. It's only on I dropped the wrong
guy, right? And it's also too, they won't
adjust. I think last year with Brian
Fitzgerald, who made to was supposed to bid 70 on, you know,
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obviously not an insignificant player, but obviously not a, you
know, a league changer and he bid 700 by accident.
Fat finger and. Yeah.
And I and I think those two it sucks like and I did that one
time and I emailed, I think I posted in the discord.
I emailed Greg like at ten O 5 when I saw that I had bid on the
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wrong guy and I said I don't, I don't want the player like
don't. I'm not trying to claim that you
should overturn somebody else who got the player I wanted to
bid on, but like can you just like clearly I didn't mean to
bid on this guy and he's like, sorry, Rob, like bids are final.
Same thing with prices. I don't and I think I think
that's right, like it's socks that you bid 700 when you meant
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to bid 7 or 70, but they can't. They can't play that game.
I don't understand what, how andwhy and when they play the game
with the drops though. Yeah, and and I I think my
second year playing, I emailed Derek, how old guy Derek the
demon. And I said, hey man.
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And this is instantly right after Fab rolled out.
And I said, shit, I'm like, I dropped Ahmed Rosario.
I meant to drop Eddie Rosario. And I think I have no idea if
it's possible to make that happen, to switch it, but I
really just made an honest mistake there.
And and it took me a while to even want to write the e-mail,
though. That's the thing.
Everything inside of me was like, you know, whatever you
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fucked up. Yeah.
I mean, I should be better. That's the thing.
It's like, be better. And the reason why this one hit
me a little closer to home was because the person who had to
move rule back for four is in first place.
Been in first place all year. I've been down 20 points.
Just tied him on Sunday. And it's just like a little bit
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more of a why is this happening now?
You know, I think everything, every time something happens to
you, you know, what you see happening in the world, they're
like, and there's doesn't reallylike hit you and then it happens
to you. You're like, this is actually
really more fucked up than I thought because now I feel it,
you know? Yeah.
And it's just awful. It's just a stupid fucking thing
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to keep doing for people. I'm sorry if this person had an
oversight, but 17 fucking hours later to give me a break, I
mean, and, and, and, and, and, you know, my first thought too
was like, oh, he must have started Blake Perkins was in the
lineup and decided to fucking, you know, say, Hey, I want him
back. And they say, no, that wasn't
the case. And I still don't believe that.
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And I know they was like, we're not in the we're not in the
business of, of proving intent. But I mean, this is, this is the
business you're in. So like figuring.
Out so I so I, I think they needto go to a 0 tolerance policy
and I think that's the answer. The answer is if you had cut
Juan Soto by mistake, so it likeit's 100% he's not hurt like
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your star player, you, you, you you cut.
I think the answer is the same. It's like, I'm really sorry that
sucks so badly. But like there's a feature
review all your fad moves like they they couldn't give you more
tools on the website for you to be careful before you submit
your fab. So like if you have too many fab
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leagues and it's like I just I'mI'm going, I'm going, I'm going
my family. It was some then play with fewer
leagues. But you either have to say here
is a transparent way. If you made a drop on how this
is going to work, you must message in by 8:00 AM on Monday
morning and we will review it onthe following criteria.
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I don't think that's a good idea.
I think that that is open to allkinds of crazy abuse if they do
that. But then you have to explain
this is how you can overturn a drop or not allow it.
I think this is the worst of allworlds, which is it's a black
box and nobody knows. To their credit, at least they
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are publishing when they have done it.
So at least we know it has been done and and that's not nothing.
So it's not being done like the how it's being done is is is is
a black box that it's been done.We know we don't know when it's
asked for and not done. So we don't know the
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counterfactual. So that's a problem.
And as I posted a Discord and like, look, I'm not suggesting
you would ever do this. If I'm the NFB CS lawyer, let's
say hypothetically $200,000 switched hand because of this
kind of thing. And I could make the case very
clearly, you did this, this and I won the overall, the main
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overall by one points or I lost the overall by one point.
And but for this one opaque transaction that is not part of
the rules would have won. Or conversely, I made this
mistake. And if I'd been able to keep
Perkins, I would have won $200,000.
To me, if I'm the NFBC's lawyer,this is a real liability.
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And you can say well, but they have the the catch all clause,
all of our decisions are final. And therefore they can rely on
that. We made this decision.
We can make whatever decision wewant.
But the reality is you're running this kind of game.
If you have unwritten rules thatyou follow sometimes but not
other times, then you can createthere.
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There is. I could make a good case on why
you screwed me out here. This is you did not follow your
own rules here. And if I'm the NFB CS lawyer, I
say either you have to cut this out or you have to clarify the
rules and embedded in the rules so there's transparency and
consistency in application. Easier to me, to my mind, to
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just not allow for anybody. No exceptions, no crying to
daddy. The only exception would be the
IT goes down at 9:30 and we'd all acknowledge if there's like
a catastrophic failure of IT, then everything has to be out
the window and everything like it sucks, but but that happens.
That's not what we're talking about here.
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If the system is working all dayand at 9:59, at 10:10 O1, the
easiest thing is to say you cannot change anything.
Sucks to be you or you. I think you have to have
transparency on how we're doing this.
Yeah, and then maybe transparency on everybody who
submits one that got accepted orit should be denied and not and
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not just your league, right. I mean, they just e-mail you if
it's your league and then they post in their discord to to the
main lobby that this is the smooth that's been rolled back.
But I totally agree, I don't think it should be allowed at
all. Like and and and and you've, you
see people in the discord echo exactly how a lot of people
feel. I left my home league drama with
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rules that no one could follow and we couldn't cement to come
to an arena, a format where we didn't think this would happen.
And it's happening. There's no doubt and it's even
if there's like, look, this is football season for them.
This is how they pay their bills.
I don't it's they're doing the best they can.
So I'm not I'm really not shitting on any of the staff at
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the NFBC, but it it creates all kinds of like awful perceptions.
Like it really looks it's a bad bad look for the NFBC.
This. Yeah, yeah.
I'm just trying to think in my head like the same thing.
I I don't have any ill will towards anyone there.
It's just like, who are they trying to accommodate by doing
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this, right? Yeah, who?
Who? Who are the people that lead
this rule to be available? And this is what I don't.
This is what I fucking don't understand.
If I cut 1 Soto by mistake, I know exactly what my e-mail
would be like. I'd be like, Oh my God, clearly
I didn't mean to do this. I meant to do this.
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Do me a solid and just reverse this.
I don't understand how you have two obscure players and make the
like relatively obscure players.Like what does the e-mail even
say? I screwed up.
Well, how did you screw up? Like their their names aren't
similar like Rosario. Rosario.
At least I understand Rob how that happens.
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I don't even understand how you have like the shame, like the
the, the, the, the like how do Imake the case I screwed up here?
Like it's it's just so weird. So that's what I also there
there's been no explanation on like, how did you make this
mistake? Like you like they're they're
they're not the same names, they're not the same players and
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it's not like you cut a superstar by mistake.
So like it's just it's so obscure and and but I find the
argument like who cares? This isn't going to actually
swing anything entirely not compelling.
It shouldn't matter. It's like if you have rules, it
should not matter. That isn't that is not
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compelling to me at all. If they did us again, if it was
the second week of the season and a first time player cut
their like second round pick by mistake and it's like I'm just
learning the IT. I don't again, I think they
should have a like, sorry, like we're all grown-ups rule.
But I also think that from a business perspective, like
overturning that, I think 99.9 of a percent of us would shrug
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our shoulders and say, yeah, no,that's fair.
Like whatever that's do them a solid like I really do.
I don't think most people who play the NFBC are like so
competitive that we just want tobe assholes about it.
Right? Like this is not that.
This is not that at all exactly.It's just people were quick to
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defend the move. Perkins is irrelevant.
Thomas sucks too. It doesn't matter.
It's so not the fucking point. You know, Churrio's coming back.
There was such a list of excuses.
I'm like, stop, stop doing this.Stop making excuses.
That's so not the point. It doesn't fucking matter,
right? Like there was news throughout
the weekend that Blake Perkins sat a lot because he was getting
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over the loss of somebody. That's why he went on
believement lead and they gave him a couple extra games.
We could read that on Monday morning and be like, oh, maybe I
got the wrong guy, like or he's in the starting or.
Or, or, and again, I'm not making allegations because we
have no idea what happened. I looked at everybody.
I, I aggregated all the cuts across all leagues and saw which
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of these two players was cut more often and trusted the
judgement of the crowd, the wisdom of the crowd.
I don't know. Yeah, so on on one of my 15 team
leagues, I again this weekend, just like the old school had a
had a double Perkins and you know how many times they made
sure I dropped Jack. I kept Blake for this week like,
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but you know how many times theylooked at it and I was like, am
I dropping? I, I would be, I'd be so
paranoid like at at at 955, I'd be like in cold sweats,
convinced that I screwed this all up.
Yeah, Yeah. It's just they should, they just
need to be better with it. Like you said, it's have nothing
like 0 tolerance or a strict criteria and then have everybody
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know when there's been a move that's been denied or accepted
like with clear rules. Yeah, like there should be.
There's a special e-mail addressthat you have to e-mail into.
If this is, if this is an optionto overturn drops, they're
they're like, who do you e-mail in?
What time do you have to do it? And what, what are times that it
will be accepted? What are times that it will not
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be accepted? I think that's a black box
you're opening. I think it's a terrible idea to
start doing that, but that's theonly alternative.
This doesn't work. But this doesn't work.
This is. This is not why.
And what I'll say is when this has happened in the past, cuz
this is not the first year that obviously Rob this has happened,
the people who are like the mostpissed off about this, like
pause Ma, I remember being like pause Ma doesn't get pissed off.
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I don't see. And maybe he does.
I don't know what he does behindclosed doors, but like pause Ma
was outraged. Like it's good players who like,
if you give them the opening that this is now part of the
game. I think that all of us, like,
I'd love their law. Often times I am torn between
two guys to cut. And if you give me until 8:00 AM
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on Monday, there may be a piece of information that I glean that
if it's an option to switch because now this is now part of
the game, then I would take advantage of that. 100% suppose
that. But then we've just changed the
game. That's OK.
As long as all of us know we've changed the game, then let's
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change the game. We don't have to pick who we cut
until Monday morning. What?
We get to pick up guys Sunday night at 10, but we choose
Monday like it doesn't work. That's not the game we're
playing, so stop it. Drop, pick up now, pay later,
drop later. I mean, how often are we
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watching the Sunday night baseball game and it's like
10:00's coming. I don't know which reliever is
going to get the save. I have both.
I mean, this is an extreme example.
I have both on my bench. One of them's going to get the
save. One of them should be dropped.
I don't know. I have to make the call right
now. It would be real sweet to be
able to wait till Monday. I don't know if this guy's going
to get activated tomorrow. If he's activated for his start
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next week, then he's a great guyto have have on my team.
If he's going to be out until Wednesday, I can't use him in my
lineup right now and I want to cut him.
It'd be awesome to be able to wait till Monday morning to find
that out right like this again, that's not what happened here,
but it's anyways. I wasn't even as angry as you
were because it's not my league and I don't think this
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ultimately again effects that. But it's it's, it's been going
on for too long. Yeah, totally agree.
Totally agree. Like it's like I said, I hit
close to home. It's a real like close to and I
just, I just, I was livid about it.
I still AM. And and got me really amped up
yesterday at the MEC game. I brought that energy into the
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Phillies crowd. Now, now that now that we've
spent 1/2 hour kicking the crap out of the NFPC.
You did the first NFPC draft of the year last week, Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. So it goes.
I know you've talked about it already, but what what was like
kind of the big picture take away that you took from from
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this one? Oh man, big picture take is that
we're we're everybody's really super sharp in in this league.
And that's what I just love about actually doing it.
It's just that it's amazing how everyone is just so tuned in.
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I know there's some pics like, you know, Twitter, like, Oh my
God, isn't that? But on the whole, I don't feel
like anyone was really missed. You know, maybe a couple
players, but like, that's just gonna happen when we have no ADP
and no projections and we'll just go blind.
Well. Because the first, first, first
point, just on that, it's not a mock draft.
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You guys play this out and like,I like that you know who's won
this draft for the last few years.
So it's like it's not winning the overall.
But like, for a bunch of guys who like win lots of leagues,
there's a certain prestige aboutbeing able to take down a league
in August, the following October.
Yeah, 100% agree with that. Yeah, Weimer is on his way to a
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back to backer and he for the for the third straight year I
took Joey Otani, you know, this time it was first and 1st
overall. I think the first year he got
him was really kind of late, butyeah.
And, and it's, I think the second thing that that came to
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my mind is man, like recency bias.
I know we try so hard to defuse it as much as we can, but it's,
it's really interesting how people handle it differently.
You know, like think a lot of people will will buy more into
it. And then you could tell who's
more willing to go into that like regression style drafting
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where you like, you could see someone who had maybe ADP baked
in lit like this year, ADP bakedinto their formula a little bit
or them sheet that that like were like, Ah, well, why is this
guy going so late? You know, and I think that's the
biggest that's the biggest thingthat in my brain I was trying to
not use so much because I I totally get it.
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I'll use that like next year when we really start moving with
ADP and things start to fall like like finalized.
But I, I honestly was trying to say I don't give a shit about
last year's ADP so much. Like it just doesn't mean too
much to me right now. I'm just, I'm so into the, you
know, how everyone's playing now.
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I'm not really focusing on what's going to happen last
year. Personally, I think I I missed a
couple of guys that I think I look back on my pics and I'm
like, I think I would have done things a little differently.
And maybe it's a little bit in hindsight, but like, to me,
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Shane Bieber going in the 10th round was an absolute fucking
steal by Greg Martin. That's just one of those things
where I look back on and and I know we didn't see it yet, but
did we have to see it? You know, I guess the thing
people keep bringing up, yeah, but you know, we didn't really
see him. I'm like, I don't give a shit
like. No, I think if Bieber, if Bieber
gives up seven runs on Friday, Istill think 10th round is good
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value for him for next year. 100percent, 100%.
His projections next year will probably come in where he's a
top 4 five round. And, and even if you want to
discount it a tiny bit, I mean, he's going to be a long way off
of Tommy John, right? Like he's a long way off of
Tommy John by next year. So even if you're somebody, if
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you buy into the doctor, Dave and Jeff Zimmerman, like first
year off of Tommy John can be a little bit rough in terms of
command control. He's a long way away from
surgery by by next March, April.100% and he's on a really good
team that has a dynamic offense right now, you know, good pen.
And I just feel like, yeah, he should have been that.
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That's one of the ones I look at.
I'm like, I can't believe I tookEdward Cabrera over.
But you know, I mean, it's I just forgot he he actually just
got lost in my sheet. I and I remember when I actually
like had him and I was in my head, I'm like, I got to move
them up in my sheet and I totally forgot to adjust some
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things. And you know, it is one of this.
I think it's. Well, it's also it's, it's, it's
while you guys take it seriously, it's also not a draft
you can dedicate 50 hours of prep to.
And as I say, there is no ADP, so you truly are starting with
an empty screen. Like you can download anything.
You can take steamer 600, you can take, you know, the current
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player rater, you can take whatever you want to take, but
you're doing it all. And it may be an important draft
to you. But like if, if you have 50
hours to dedicate to prep to this, I would say maybe you
should start going for more walks or like the local
Community Center and like take out more stuff because you
can't, you can't like it's real life.
You can only you can only dedicate so much to a.
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Is it a one? Is it a 150 DC in the end?
Yeah, yeah. 150 DC Yeah, yeah. So is it maybe, maybe it's worth
more like in terms of prestige and like competitiveness than
than a regular 150 DC. But there's only so much time.
You also have your current teams.
You have like everything else you do.
Right, That's the thing. It's it's it's try not to, you
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know, you're trying to close outsome leagues and bring home some
coin in your in your now leagues.
And and it's like I felt the same thing every every day.
I got I have my list of things do and like, you know, that was
at the end, but we're still likea star next door.
Like, don't, don't do too much too late, you know?
And I just remember it being Tuesday the day before the
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draft. Like, fuck, you know, that's why
I really got to, I really got tolook at it.
Weimer has the advantage that all of his teams are already so
far in first. He doesn't really need to do
anything for his current team. Yeah.
So he could already really be full on next year draft prep
because he's already he's already mastered this year.
Yeah, he's he's he's so and and it's amazing that both of his
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teams in the past two years havebeen around the top 100 in the
overall for this league that we thought August this this this
year, this league won't be a part of the overall because
there were several complaints that is hand picked leagues and
apparently those won't be part of the overall anymore.
So if you have a hand picked league and there were several
people who are complaining that there was, there's that there
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was several advantages to drafting in August, like Steve
Weimer getting Wyatt Langford inthe 11th round last year of like
how about the guys, the seven guys who were out for the year
before fucking December came that we picked in a top 11.
Can we talk about that people? No, people just want to bitch.
It's amazing that some of the anyways, I was gonna say it's
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amazing how some people see advantages by drafting against
like 14 really tough people in August.
It also see no no advantage about being able to undo friggin
drops. It's really incredible.
It's really fun. That's the same fucking crowd
right there. That's the same people.
It's really, it's really wild tome and to be.
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Fair. I don't even necessarily
disagree like I'm I'm fine with all of these leagues like this
league being a stand alone. The the the the leagues at first
pitch Arizona being stand. I'm fine with that.
Whatever you'd be. You're doing this draft for
another reason. If you're doing this draft
thinking you're somehow gaining an advantage for the overall,
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then your Galaxy like nobody. Nobody signed up for this August
draft thinking this is my path towards winning the overall next
year. That was my original e-mail to
all these people in 2021. Hey guys, I have a great way to
win the overall early. Yeah.
I've come up with a sharp scam that I don't.
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I think it's going to take thoseidiots at least four years to
catch on to. Totally.
This is something it's really like.
Nobody, please. Nobody forward gentlemen's
agreement. Nobody forward this e-mail to
Greg or to Zach. Absolutely.
It's, you know, we just have a really competitive group and
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it's just, it's just fun. A lot of people in the league go
with a lot of content with it, like James Anderson and Bubba
and Bloomfield. And it's just so much fun.
It's it's just and and it's coolto hear the talking points.
You know, I've been pretty much not listening to other pods this
year. I had to like I have to have
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some time of my day, Rob, when it's not dedicated to fantasy
baseball. So it's like, you know, like,
no, that has to be music or something else.
Like when I go for a walk. It can't be more fantasy
baseball. But making making beet juice and
and then back to the the fantasy.
Yeah, 100% so but it was cool tohear, you know, like a lot of
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people time in on how they felt about the draft and it's always
an interesting, you know, part of it.
I think it's, you know, I think there's going to be as always,
but there's going to be the realization that some of these
players, because a lot of the ADP doesn't really deviate too
much from these first couple drafts.
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You know, like they're going to be some players.
They're like, holy shit, like they'll be a Max on like Bieber.
That's probably going to be his Max like all season long.
But most of the players inside the top 10 rounds are are really
kind of going to stay around their area.
And it's just that that that that realization of wow, is this
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guy this round pick now, you know, and that's some of the
that was my favorite part of doing this draft is looking into
the players that don't have and I haven't really dove too much
into because you know, we're spending time on these one war
players, these half war players all year long.
Who am I going to pick up in FabBrooks fucking Baldwin or Blake
Perkins? You know, So then it comes to
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looking at these players again. It got me excited like, Ah, this
is great. Like look at these numbers.
These guys hang up and I remember my so my third round
pick I went with with my third overall and then Jazz to them.
You know, my second overall Jazzwas like a little interesting
pick for me because it come it came down to 1 when you filter
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to second base you went. Whoa.
It's bad. This this gets really bad really
quick. And yeah, there's some later
depth, like guys like Xander Bogart didn't get, you know, but
he's not going to qualify for 2nd next year.
So anyway. And then we're like Jazz is like
staring me in the face, not onlyin like the SGP, but just like,
wow, this guy is still getting better too.
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Like his his getting better across the board.
And he's still on this dynamic offense, the top of the lineup.
So I'm like, this makes sense because I was like, if if it's
him or Marte there, I think I'm going to do it in the third
round. I end up taking James Wood, but
I almost took Hunter Green thereor Christopher Sanchez.
I had I had a couple pictures there and and the ground.
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That was my big group. But Hunter Green I'm just like,
I'm like this guy's last 38 starts.
He has a .99 WHIP and a 270 RA. At what point are we going to
start taking that? Like this is real.
He could pitch in Great Americanballpark.
I know he has some injuries thatbut he's a stud.
So I passed on him for James Wood and it came back around and
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Dominic Rewell took Green right before me.
And then I'm like, God, I need to get I need to get a starting
pitcher here. What do I do?
And then through my prep, I keptlooking at my Brian Wu has been
absolutely incredible. Like he made me the best Mariner
pitcher like for fantasy right now.
And and I was like, am I really going to take Brian Wu?
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You know, it's one of the I justremember thinking like, is this
how I'm going to start it? Like I saw Dylan sees who, you
know, Weimer took next. Kirby was available too, but I'm
like, this seems like again in my sheet it came out, I tried to
balance like a skill sheet with an STP sheet for the rest of
season projections. And I was like, this is the the
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next guy on my board, I gotta take him.
And it's just wow. I mean, yeah, I pulled away from
it and I'm still like, wow. Brian Wu is an SP1.
It's crazy, but he is. I mean, he is, yeah.
I think we're going to spend a lot of time in the winter.
The top three starting pitchers I think are pretty are pretty
obvious and you can debate whichorder they should go in amongst
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the top three. I think then like who comes
after them, and obviously I meanschool ball schemes and crochet,
who comes 4th, 5th, 6th, I thinkwill be a fun and then
eventually tedious debate after there.
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And I think maybe like, yeah, I think that'll be a really
interesting discussion that willeventually become very boring.
Right, especially with like there was a fourth guy, Jack
Wheeler that and that would havebeen a no doubt like, you know,
so and it's obviously it's goingto be a lot of you know, doubts
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hovering around him. You know, Mel Kelly did come
back from something similar. So, you know, there's there's
hope that he can resume pitching.
Bubba took him in the fourth round, which I thought was a
good risk reward spot. I mean, we didn't really have
two like we had some news, but not like the what exactly he had
performed on yet. So, you know, that may be a
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little early, but I'm still finewith, like taking a shot at that
point because if it works out, you know, that's a that's a
really good, like, value shot. Yeah, I totally agree with like,
who's the next? Like Chris Sale went forth, you
know, then it was Gilbert, Joe Ryan, Hunter Brown, Yamamoto
Sanchez, degrom. All those guys have probably a
case. Blake Snell, you know all those
guys have a case to be in that picture.
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I think if Sale comes back this weekend and gets five weeks of
dominant Chris Sale, then he's back into the discussion up
there. There'll be some drafters who
are like, he's old and the injury risk still feels real to
me, and that's fine. But but I think if he has a
dominant stretch, I think Joe Ryan's a pretty safe good pick
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there. But yeah, like Woo, who is an
SP1 next year and like, like, unless something weird happens
down the stretch, I think that'swe just kind of have to
internalize that's who he is now.
Yeah, it's just so, so many plays.
Like what do you think about theNick Kurtz with the second pick
of the second round? I think that that's gonna that
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it's it's like right now that's a whoa.
I think as people dig in fully, like especially people who don't
have Kurtz on their teams, they're gonna realize, yeah, no,
that's that's like, like put Junior Caminero, Kurtz, Vlad
Freeman, all of these guys in a bag, Manny Machado, shake them
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up. And it's like, you want the
young guy or do you want the older guy?
And there's arguments both ways.But like, Kurtz is totally like,
he's he's having a ridiculous season.
Not for a rookie. He's having a ridiculous season,
period. Period.
Yeah, so true. And Cabenero went in the first
round. That's what Bubba took him 12.
Yeah, that's, that's a bit aggressive for me.
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And I, I say as somebody who hasjunior Caminero is my most owned
player right now in, in the NFBC.
So I'm like madly in love with the young man.
That's aggressive. I just I.
Just I just like, I look, I loveJunior Caminero.
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I really do. I think he is totally legit.
I think he's a star, but you need to tell me like is the
batting average going up? I think it will go up.
Like I do think he's like a 270 type hitter.
Are the stolen bases going to goup?
No, like he's on Tampa. So I think like a 7 to 10 stolen
base kind of I hope I don't killyou in stolen bases.
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But like he's he look, he's I think he's he's I don't know
where he's on the player Raider this morning.
He went over 4 yesterday but I think he was 7th amongst hitters
after his big game two days 2 days ago.
So he obviously can produce first round value.
He is producing first round value.
I just don't know I'd want him as my first round pick if he was
at the turn. Like if I can get him in the
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second round, like if I can get Lindor in him, I don't know.
Like there, there are bills thathe works for, but that's a
little bit aggressive for me. That's not bad, but a little.
Bit that's actually who he landed in the second round was
Lindor, and he said he was thinking about Lindor.
Look, that's I might flip the tooth.
Like what the hell does Francisco Lindor have to do to
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get into the first round consistently?
Nobody likes it just so reason. It's really incredible.
It's a consistent 2828 thirty 30profile with a hundred runs and
it's just no buddy thinks it's real.
It's like you're building a stock portfolio and you have
this stock that consistently just returns, just returns like
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17%. And it's like a Big Blue chip
and everybody says, I don't want, I just don't want to lose
the draft in the first round. And you have this stock that
it's like you can just write in a pen at the beginning of the
year. This is what you're going to
get. You're not going to get 4040
like, but, but but you're also not going to like blow it there.
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And 15 guys in every single roomare like, Nah, that's not what
I'm looking for here. Yeah, it really, really, really
wild to me. I don't know, Rob.
Like coming here might do 45 and10 and he's 20.
No, I know. I know he's.
I'm not explain to me. I know, I know, I know.
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You've been talking about him all year.
I just can't say. I can't sit there and say
that's. Yeah, no, no, look, it's not a
bad pick. Like it's yeah, it feels, no.
No. Yeah, maybe.
This is this is how maybe this is how it is every year.
It looks like I I got him at pick 7580 last year.
Why would I spend the first round pick?
It's because he fled 4510. Yeah, and he's a young buck
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who's still learning how to hit.It's, you know what I love about
him? He's like he has him.
Soto and Judge have at least nine home runs to each part of
the field, oppo straight and pull, and it's just like if you
looked at his spray chart on Savant.
I really it's so it's a thing ofbeauty.
Even even as a lover of pull hitters, that guy really has no
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weak spot on the field. It's pretty impressive, man.
It's really is. There is there any way we can
create a narrative going into the winter that it was all
really Steinbrenner Field and that it was him playing in a
minor league stadium and you can't really take this seriously
to try to discount him a little bit.
I'm just. We can.
There's nobody who's going to buy that anywhere.
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There's some people who might buy that, I think.
So look. Vlad, Vlad had his only truly,
truly elite season when he was playing in Dunedin.
Maybe this is the best we ever see from Caminero because he's
playing in a minor league park this year.
Does that sound if I, if I do like a podcast tour and caution
people about that, do you think people will but start buying
that because it's not true? It's ridiculous.
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And I do think the batting average will go up like, so
that's the other thing is like the batting average is fine in
this context, but there's nothing about his profile that
says he can't be like A270280 hitter also to me.
Yeah, 100% and that's it. Yeah, that's the thing.
Like the K rate being at 20% just really cements.
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Yes, yeah, he swings hard. Like he, you know, one who
swings as hard as him doesn't strike out as as as least amount
as he does. Everyone's above 25% with the
bad speed that he has every, buthe's just sitting there lower
and it's just truly impressive. Would you take him or vibe right
now and next year? Yeah, yeah.
Like Vlad, Vlad's awesome real life player, but we play in a
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game where home runs are a category and I think Vlad's
batting average will be better than than Caminera.
But just the way SGP works, likea 300 from Vlad doesn't move the
difference between a 300 from Vlad and a 265 from or 270 from
Caminero doesn't move the the the needle as much as the
difference between 40 home runs and thirty home runs between the
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two of them. That those two, those ten home
runs, if that's where it sticks to, is a massive difference.
Yeah, here's another guy who I think those the the pick
differential might shock some people, Zach Netto in the middle
of the second round, but you know, he'll be fair.
You know, when we first started drafting in DCS last year, he
was a fourth, fifth round pick by by some people.
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And then he got the injury came out news and then it went back
to the two hundreds. But what you think about him in
the middle of the second round because another guy where you're
just like, really? But then you look at like, oh
shit, he's going to mic you 3030.
You know, I'll be, I'll be honest with you, Rob Nedo's one
of those guys I don't have on any team.
And like as you were saying, when you're prepping for like
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Fab each week, you don't look atguys who are 100% rostered.
So he's just not a guy I spend alot of time looking at.
I will in the offseason, obviously, but like, so I have
no strong feel on it because I just don't have them.
So I don't fully appreciate how good he's been.
Right, 100%, yeah, there's definitely so many guys like
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that where that came across. Would you think about like Bryce
Harper falling to the, like, back end of the third round with
Freddie Freeman? It seems like good value,
though, where they went, you know?
Totally. Bryce Harper's like, yeah, he's,
he's, he's not my trout. Like he Bryce Harper plays and
he humps it. I love Bryce Harper.
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Yeah, absolutely. Any any shocking pick you
thought like in a top five or three rounds that you.
Nothing that really jumped out at me.
Is it traditional that unlike the DC's, once the winter gets
started, that closers don't get pushed up?
Because obviously that is one ofthe things in DC early DCADP is
guys who were good traditionally.
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We'll see if this is this year is any different than every
other year. Seemingly closers with jobs get
pushed up wildly. I know you said on last week's
launch angle that you were not going to you're going to wait
until the winter like until around the second part of the
draft to get a bunch of spec closers, old closers, different
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different arms. Is that how this draft works?
Typically Is is it's not as wilda closer inflation as regular
DCS early I? Think there was that one year
that that there was a high, everyone moved to the high, you
know, picks. I figure maybe two years ago
where like there was a lot of double tap in two relievers,
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first kind of second, third round.
I think that year was the year that maybe we kind of drafted
them a little earlier. And I don't know if the move to
be in a stand alone league had any effect on how anyone thought
about draft in the closest. So this may not be a true
representation of like how the DCS with overalls would go.
But yeah, I think generally, I think, you know, seeing Felix
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Bautista two years ago get drafted by roof in the second
round, then had shoulder, you know, obviously it happened to
anyone. But I think there was a little
bit more of, like, hesitancy toward how to treat these
closers for me. Yeah.
I mean, in this league, this year, I didn't draft 1 into the
top. Top 11 last year, came back into
the draft in October, you know, with the full draft room, I'm
(50:56):
like, holy shit, I'm in trouble,right.
So picked like Justin Martinez in round 13 or 14 and then later
in the 200 I picked Hoffman and a world is Batman going with the
skills overall type of, you know, look at it.
And I think I'm just going to dothe same thing like target guys
like Griffin Jacks or Edwin Useta, like somewhat like people
(51:18):
with just extreme skill sets andlike 2-3 hundred.
And then you have those dinosaurs that no one likes,
like, you know, Carlos Estevez, Kyle Finnegan, not not Kyle
Finnegan himself, maybe like next year, but those kind of
guys that everyone's like, Ah, but they're, you know, but their
skills are, but they get 30 saves and those always going to
200. So I think there's going to be
options. And I wanted to like just kind
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of go that same route again. Yeah, No, I think that's a smart
way. Is your gut that when DC's get
drafting for real around Thanksgiving that closers do go
back up or do you think there isa kind of league wide
adjustments that you don't need to do that because you can get
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Henley Jansen in the 11th round,whoever that version of that is
this year I. Don't think there's going to be
any drastic difference in approach to them.
I think it's going to be pretty similar to like this past
season. You know, I think there's,
there's going to be the studs that you know, I have a lot of
Edwin Diaz and I'll do it again.Honestly, if he he went in the
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fourth round, like if he would have made it back to me in the
back end of the 4th, I probably would have foregone like taking
a starter 1st to take Edwin Diazbecause he's just I I know the
saves accumulation isn't like top level, but the skill set and
what he brings to you with everything else is just he has
just not giving up runs anymore.It's just wild.
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And I think those kind of guys like Will will still go in the
3rd 4th consistent and then havethat little lol you know, and
then and they'll be some scattered in the 80 ish mark.
But you know, it's it's definitely different right now
just looking at it like Ryan Vanish eighth round, Steve
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Weimer took Ryan Helsley 11th round.
Both guys who are struggling, right, with new teams, free
agents that people are definitely going to look at and
say, yeah, the body of work probably indicate that we should
maybe try to sign this guy. The closer those two picks.
I mean, watching Helsley right now, I don't like it doesn't
feel good to me. But just knowing that, you know,
historically, this is the worst stretch of his career.
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Like that pick in the 11th roundmight be pretty freaking good,
but it could also be like, hey, he never finds his slider again
and he can't pitch anymore. But Devin Williams too, It's
like that's like trying to the projective agents now going to a
new team and reclaiming their forty save status.
Those could be two excellent picks, you know.
Could you imagine, assume Helsley like September goes the
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way that the last few weeks havegone for him?
Do you imagine being a fan of a team and the announcement comes
across the wire that your team has signed that guy to be your
closer? To talk about like where where
like every big market team who wanted a closer would be in line
for him now. Now it's just like the
Pittsburgh Pirates might go out and sign them, you know, like.
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That Colorado Rockies have signed Ryan Helsley as they're
being on. We feel like we're turning the
corner here and we brought in Ryan Helsley to lock down the
bullpen. And, you know, had tip to Greg
Jewett. He's just an absolute star in in
in in the fantasy game and just real life too.
It's a great human being. But in in in his write up during
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the year, he he was just mentioning casually like, hey,
you know, Helsley's doesn't lookright, you know, and he was cat
pointing out the slider not being as effective and not
getting as much chase and being a little bit worse than his own.
And I just remember keep going up, you know, greeting it and my
God, yeah, you know, I go look at it.
So the Mets like and now it's like, my God, that's fine.
The Mets are you know, they can they have this pitching lab.
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I'm sure they'll adjust him to maybe try to make him sharp
again. And just watching him, it's just
like, you know, he has this fastball that doesn't move.
It's like one of those what theycall dead zone.
It's just the, you know, everyone can hit it.
It's it's very easy to hit. And then the slider is just not
fooling anyone. And that that, yeah, it's it's
just crazy. But yeah, you know.
All those I have a name for those pictures, they're called
(55:19):
Bailey Obers. They're Bailey Obers.
Where the Jays broadcast yesterday before Hoffman ruined
the game, I was talking about Bailey Ober and they were raving
about like his extension. How like a 92 mile an hour
fastball looks like it's 97 because Bailey Ober has one of
the the longest extensions in inthe game and it's so hard to hit
(55:41):
him. And then it's like pow, pow,
pow. And it's like, no, these are
batting practice pitches. Batman.
Batman. Pow.
Pow. Seriously, how?
How are your teams doing? Good I mean it's probably my
best stretch of the season. That's awesome perform my fab
weeks. Yeah, it's still not, you know,
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like winning any of them, but like it it's it's crazy.
I'm like a between my 15 team leagues like an average of like
98 points across the five, but I'm not winning any of that.
I just want to get so anyway, I'm close.
I'm closing one CLQ moving up. I'm in the top 18 now like 80
points behind the the last spot,which could change too because
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Toby is not only almost winning the Champions League, but he's
also on the top 15. So he could he could gain, we
could gain another spot if if heif he gets in that spot.
But. I mean Toby.
Like Toby, Yeah, I mean like themain the main event first people
as of now looks pretty locked up, but Toby's up there in the
(56:49):
in the main event as well. We need a new name.
We would need a name for a new like Lindy If if Toby somehow
wins champions and the main events in the same year.
Oh 100% yeah. He's he's having a studly year
as as as always. So he's super there's there's
there's ton of people that are just if you go across the
overall, that's Brian Edward, Dan Iverson guys who are in the
(57:12):
discord too. Just that's really crushing
across so many formats. It's good for them.
Like it's also Missy. But yeah, just trying to
closeout these leagues like withminimal fab left and all these
moves I've been thinking about so much more than than ordinary
right? Like how far can this dollar
take me? You know, and there's still a
couple that I wish I had back. Like what?
(57:32):
Why did I fucking take a shot onBob Seymour?
Like, what was I thinking? As much as I need power, like,
what was I thinking? You know, So to those those
moves have to get really finalized.
How's your batting average star team in the main event?
Overall, as of this morning, we're recording on Wednesday
morning up to 27th overall in the main, which is which is the
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highest it's been all year. And as I keep saying to my
partner, my son, as long as there are more days left in the
season than places we are in, aslong as we move up one spot
every single day, then we have we have ramp left, we have Rd.
(58:18):
Rd. in front of us. The team unfortunately lost both
Zach Wheeler and Nate Gianvaldi in the last like 5 days.
So that's not perfect for the team.
The only good news is when you've had Nate Givaldi and Zach
Wheeler all season, your ratios are are pretty solid.
(58:41):
So like it's not a good thing that you've lost them.
I can still gain a lot of pointsin wins and strikeouts, but I
have enough ratio that like it'sit sucks but like it's an
excuse. That's not the problem.
The problem is still the battingaverage.
Last night my team had one of those nights where it's like the
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great thing about having a shitty batting average is like
if you have 40 at bats and are like at 400 batting average, it
goes up. Like it can go up still.
And in the overall, there are somany points.
Like this is the thing. If I average my point total in
the other 9 categories and gave myself that average for the 10th
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category, I'm in second place overall.
Wow. So that tells you how bad my
batting average is. And it makes no freaking sense.
I have Yandi Diaz on this team. I have Juan Soto on this team.
I have Ronald de Cunha on this team.
Like I have so many guys. And like, yeah, Ozzy Alby's has
(59:45):
had had a shit batting average, but it's not that bad.
It's not like I have a bunch of 180, so it makes no sense that
my batting average is quite thisbad.
And like there's no chance I'm going to win the overall.
Like it's just too far. But like it would make it's,
I'll be honest, like, and I saidthis previously, Rob, it's just
(01:00:07):
friggin fun having a team to check every 5 minutes when
baseball is being played. And I don't mean that as loser
talk like I'm going to. I have $6 in FAB left so I am
truly sweating every single. Move and I have to, I dropped
Wheeler, I have to drop Evaldi obviously.
(01:00:28):
And like, like I picked up JorgePolanco last week because I had
a a week middle infield spot andit was took everything for me to
bid $2.00 instead of $1.00 on Polanco.
And if I did $1.00, the problem with being in first place, the
good, I mean the problem. So no problems with being in
first place in your league. The problem is you will not win
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the tiebreaker for any free agent.
So if you're bidding $1.00 in every free agent, I First off
have found this year bidding $1.00 on free agents, there have
been very few guys I really want.
Like by definition I wasn't going to get Bieber.
So maybe it's just a mental adjustment that you're like, I
can't get this guy. I may put him first in my my bid
(01:01:09):
list, but there's zero chance ina 15 in a 12 team league,
there's a chance everybody else is checked out or something. 15
seem like there's no chance in amain event.
But I've gotten pretty much everybody I've wanted.
And if it's not who I wanted, I got the third guy in bid list
and I've been fine with everything.
So I like, I have, I, I am adjusting my thinking of I'd
(01:01:31):
rather have $20 than $6 if I'm being honest, just because I'm
going to run out of moves. But I, but, but I, if you told
me Rob, I'll give you $20.00, but you can never bid $2.00 on
another player for the next 5 fab periods.
I'd be like sold. I'll take that.
Yeah, yeah, 100% it's did. I made a mistake like this two
(01:01:53):
weeks ago. I calculated my overspend on on
on my my main event team and then just gone to the players
themselves and just been like, oh, Rob, come on, man, you got
to be better next year to so many for and for every Joe Adele
Barger, Kyle Stowers that I added in the mains for like 30
(01:02:16):
bucks, there's the eastern location I paid 30 bucks for and
and and you know, whoever else that I'm just like, why?
What happened to my brain at that point of the season?
Just really, I mean, I for me, it was I, I added on this team,
Caglione and Mauricio, like one on the same weekend.
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I went crazy. I was like, I was rich and then
I was poor. But I'm like, but I have I have
two empties. But I'm gonna have my middle
infield is now solid and I have the best power average bats
that's gonna come on the market,so I'm set.
It's worth it, and my pitching is so good.
This is enough what I need. And Needless to say, neither are
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on my team anymore. Yeah.
But but as you say, I also got Raymond Lauriano for like $4.00
and he's been better than Jack Caglione.
I don't know, I'm making up for $4.00, but it was like it was
nothing. And he's better than Caglione
could possibly have ever been for me.
So these things you can't say. On the one hand, Oh my God, I, I
(01:03:19):
set this money on fire. Obviously I did.
And on the other hand, what a genius I am with Ramon Lariano.
He you know what, he's so interesting because again, I was
just prepping for this draft, right?
And it would be so stupid to take Loriana on the top 11
rounds. And I look back though, I had
one sheet of my SDP sheet that had included last calendar year,
(01:03:43):
right? And of stats included.
And it was something I was keeping an eye on.
I had a column from my sheet. And he has been an absolute stud
for two years now, year and a half firm.
But and I'm just wondering like,but then in your back of your
brain is like the Braves let this guy go after a torrid
(01:04:04):
stress last year and he just randomly got signed.
Like it's like, is he going to be taken seriously again this
offseason? Because this guy, I don't know,
Rob, he's just we keep trying todoubt the reasons like, Oh, it's
you know, this week. I remember I had a couple of
questions about private dams, like, Oh, well, he's at Seattle,
though this week. I start this guy, I'm like, who
(01:04:28):
gives a shit about Seattle? At Seattle, This guy is.
Is the best one of the best hitters well and clearly?
The I mean. And yet the and yet the Padres
keep batting him like 7th and 8th.
I know, right? Wild.
It's like. What kind of frigging pictures
does Louis Saraias have of the manager that they keep batting
(01:04:50):
him second and think that we can't get our best hitter right
now higher than 7th? Like 100%.
Wild. Anyways, we care.
They're winning, so they don't care.
But. Yeah, 100%.
Anything else you want to? Nah, this is fun.
Get to today. Cool, good stuff.
What do you got planned for the rest of the week?
Anything good? Anything fun?
(01:05:11):
Bit of work? Yeah, nothing big.
Are you doing anything for LaborDay?
Yeah, I'm going to try to add EUback into Labor Day for the US,
no. Why?
Why isn't it there? Nobody knows.
Nobody knows just. Glamour.
(01:05:33):
Only glamour. Glamour's the only one.
I can't help but think about nowthat with Labor Day, like it's
just, it's popular in my brain. Yeah, I'm just going to
hopefully, you know, down here in the Jersey Shore in the beach
area, it gets really, it's funnyto me from the beach, but we
don't like to go when it's like swamped, you know, with people.
(01:05:56):
So. But I don't know, it might be
like just like an outside, like relax and, you know, put the TV
outside by the patio set and just like hang out and.
That's all acts. You know, yeah.
And then? And then you can go to the beach
on Tuesday when all the kids areback at school.
You can 1000%. You can go to the beach the next
day and it'll be empty. That's exactly the move.
(01:06:17):
That's local season here. We call that local, local beach
season in September. It's when all the New Yorkers
stopped coming through, which which used to be me, you know,
when I used to not live in New Jersey because the the beaches
in Brooklyn aren't great. So good stuff, Rob.
We'll catch you next week. And this is fun.
(01:06:39):
And thanks for everyone for listening to the long dangle
pod. Catch you later.
Man, that's too funny.
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