All Episodes

May 15, 2020 46 mins
Our guest today, Hope Wilder is the founder of Pathfinder Community School, a learning community where kids truly learn by living. A lifelong learner herself, Hope had an accelerated experience of the public school system, graduating from the University of South Carolina at the age of 19 with degrees in Biology and German. For the dozen years before starting Pathfinder, she worked and played as an alternative outdoor educator and science teacher at private schools and local nonprofits. Hope, Kevin, and I sat down to talk about Hope’s experience watching kids learn through freedom and play, and what can happen when learners are truly in charge. Full disclosure: Kevin is also a member of Pathfinder’s Board of Directors where he currently serves as Board President.

1:39 - From Outdoor Educator to Founder of Self-Directed School: “I kind of made a vow to never teach somebody again who didn’t want to learn what I was teaching.”
6:10 - Stores from Hope’s Internship at Self-Directed Schools: “I saw a fifteen year old turn to a thirteen year old and said, ‘Hey, what’s the stock market?’”
14:24 - Giving Everyone an Equal Voice in Running a School: “Chore time came and we said, ‘Nope… we're trying out this idea from this one kid to not do chores to see if they’re necessary.’”
12:54 - What Types of People Choose Pathfinder? “People come to self-directed education for all different kinds of reasons.”
35:09 - How Kids Learn at Pathfinder: “They knew what they wanted to learn, so it was easy peasy.”
44:47 - Lessons Learned from a Self-Directed School: “The negative way to say it is ‘Don’t squish them.’”
Mark as Played

Advertise With Us

Popular Podcasts

Stuff You Should Know
Dateline NBC

Dateline NBC

Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Follow now to get the latest episodes of Dateline NBC completely free, or subscribe to Dateline Premium for ad-free listening and exclusive bonus content: DatelinePremium.com

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

Las Culturistas with Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang

Ding dong! Join your culture consultants, Matt Rogers and Bowen Yang, on an unforgettable journey into the beating heart of CULTURE. Alongside sizzling special guests, they GET INTO the hottest pop-culture moments of the day and the formative cultural experiences that turned them into Culturistas. Produced by the Big Money Players Network and iHeartRadio.

Music, radio and podcasts, all free. Listen online or download the iHeart App.

Connect

© 2025 iHeartMedia, Inc.