February 7, 2025 • 28 mins
In this forward-looking episode, Dr. Wachtel discusses her aspirations for the future of health and wellness. She shares her thoughts on the role of technology and behavioral science in shaping a healthier society. Join her as she outlines the steps individuals and organizations can take to contribute to a more connected and supportive world.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, what's going on you guys?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
This is Joseph Bonner and welcome to Founder one hundred podcasts.
Or if you're listening or watching this on television, you
are now also watching Inspiration News. I am your host,
Joseph Bonner, And as you guys already know, all of
our episodes, we bring in amazing and inspiring guests that
have not only a story to share, but a legacy
to the fill. And without further ado, I do, guys,
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want to welcome you to the show.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Doctor.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Let's say, Natanya, is it watching when I pronouncing your
last nay correctly?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Watch your lockown? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Now for the duration of the interview that she is
a doctor, I can call you the time and.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Say, okay, yes, please call me Natanya.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
All right now, I asked because I want to make
sure that we give the respect due to all of
our special guests.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
And you.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Have spent an interesting story now to kind of just
jump start.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
You used to be two hundred and ninety eight pounds.
You were paralyzed and.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You even so that you were never gonna walk again,
but you somehow went from there.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
To rebuild your life. You tell us about that.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Journey sure, Well, I'm a recovering workaholic, uh type, a
neurotic person with this you know, sort of cliched immigrant
go go go, go go drive, and was participating in
sports when I was younger, and all kinds of activities
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were Pushing yourself was a badge of honor. Not stopping
to rest or rest for help, you know, was the
way it goes, which is probably why that translated so
well to be able to work with you know, athletes
and high steaks individuals, because I was like, oh, I
was like you, even though I don't maybe look like
I'm in the right package for that mindset. So basically, yeah,
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I had a bunch of children, and in that time
and in the journey, uh, you know, things shift around,
and maybe some old injuries from sports related injuries that
weren't given the medical attention that they should have had,
and so things maybe shifted. Specifically, I had a piece
of calcified mass in my spine that when I gave
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birth to my twins, I was like, I got to
go back to workout, and I like lifted some weights
and I broke my back. But I didn't think that
I broke my back, and I didn't think it was
such a big deal. But eventually within four to five days,
because I didn't want to go to the hospital, I
was like, it's fine, I'll just rest. I was like
dragging my leg all the ground because I'm a crazy
person and this is being recorded that I just didn't
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really think it was going to be such a big deal.
And then they were like, do you understand what is
happening to you? And I also, I give you know,
my daughters were infants and I'm like still was nursing,
and they were like, I was like, I can't take anything,
so I couldn't take any painkillers. Then I finally broke
down and was like, okay, I'm going to take a painkiller.
And I didn't feel any relief. And I'm usually very
sensitive to that stuff. So they're like, well, the only
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thing we can think of is come to the hospital
and we'll give you IV pain management. Because I was like,
I think my back really hurts. I said, well, basically
on the fourth day of dragging myself around, I was
like I think, okay, I have to go to the hospital,
so very calmly and I was pretty much awake. Yeah,
we arranged to go, and that's when they put me
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into an MRI and we're like strapping me to the thing,
and I was like, what's going on there? Like you're
a paralysis risk. Your spine is impinged and I was like, oh,
like I thought it was disc and I would get
some pain medicine and rest and walk out. And turns
out I was going to have to have spinal surgery
and they wouldn't even have like the right surgeon, and
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then I started panicking so fast forward had the operation,
was told we're not sure if you will walk again,
And it was a year of time to fully come
back to walking because I did lose use of my
legs for a while and had to you know, have
a nurse and a walk and it was it was
pretty awful. Oh and newborn twins like being brought to
me because I couldn't parents because I was in bed.
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So yeah, that was that. And I also had some
other things going on that we didn't find that I had.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I don't know why we're talking about all my medical
but just to say it was a journey. And I
was also running businesses and acting like nothing was wrong
this entire time.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Wow, now during now, during that time, is that when
you put all the weight.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, i'd you know, I had some ups and downs
being a parent, just life stuff, you know, and I
had some other things going on that we found out later,
some some thyroid stuff and I did have to have
a small surgery there where I was like, I'm not
eating that much, what's going on because I was always
kind of on the go. So that all got sorted out.
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But it was two and a half years to lose
the weight that took me one year to put on.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, that makes that that makes a lot of sense.
But you know, this is you know, you.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Encountered an unexpected situation to your health and welvement and
from that point forward one two years past DA, how
were you able to number one, rebuild your life from
that point?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
So that's a great question. If that was the only
thing that happened to me medically, it would be an
easier story. So I'll encapsulate let's say, three or four
other things that are kind of hard to believe, but
they all happened, and I had the receipts With an
oncology situation. I was also lost my first husband kind
of young and had you a son there, so I
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had a lot of like death and sickness and stuff
surrounding me and stress about that always with the breadwinner.
This back thing was just one other thing. I also
had a hyatal hernia they didn't diagnose, which was at
the same time in the front of my body, which
made them think that I had asthma because I couldn't
breathe and it was getting worse and worse, and the
bigger I got, the more medicine they gave me, steroids
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and hale. It was just awful, like everything was messed up.
I was in pain all the time. I was angry
all the time. Angry, I was just a different person.
And so I said to you right before we recorded,
you know, I wish I could tell you it was
like one thing when someone says I hit rock bottom
and then I came out. Well, it took me a
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couple knocks. I didn't have like a singular event like
the breaking the bag was one thing. So it was
several years of pretty horrific physical ailments and things and
prognoses that I just started to say, I'm not going
to believe any of this, and I'm gonna walk, I'm
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gonna dance, I'm gonna roller skate, which I did for
my forty ninth birthday last year. And I just did
it and I read about people who did it and
that inspired me. I read, I was given books Joe
Despenza and how He you know, visual back I did it,
I was like, well, what's it going to hurt? And
so I didn't believe in any of that stuff, I
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should say, before any of the Eastern things, and it
completely opened my mind. I had been Western science focused
and trained. I also want to be very clear, I'm
not a medical doctor. I'm not currently licensed therapist. I'm
just a human being that did a lot of schooling
because I'm a nerd and liked it. So these are
all sort of anecdotal and stories and personal accounts as
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well as clinical accounts of spontaneous regressions in oncology or
people healing, you know. But I was like, what's the
common thread? What did all these people do that's the same,
And so much of it is well kind of also
what we were talking about before. It's basic stuff and
it doesn't actually any money.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, and that makes a lot of sense, you know,
when we're talking about health and wellness, and now as
a founder you have website, New Solutionsnetwork dot com for
those of you guys who like to go visit that.
You can look at the description of this show whether
you're watching on TV are listening on on your favorite podcast.
So I definitely want to encourage you guys to do
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that now through your website.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
You actually it's like a gateway to.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
A lot of the things that you do do in
order to support wellness, involving not just for yourself but
also for the community. Can you tell me a little
bit about revolutionizing healthcare through collaborations, like, what is your
idea is there?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
So I worked inside of Big Pharma, which you know,
in the current climate, that's a really dirty thing to say,
I guess, but I really tried. I wanted to be
a part of the helping group. I did not do sales.
I'm not saying salespeople are bad or anything. I'm just
saying I worked in chronic disease management and education, both
for patients, care providers and clinicians, especially in areas like
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mental health and CNS, but also in diabetes and oncology,
things where there's chronic disease and people are struggle with
how to manage this into their daily life. So that
was sort of like the therapy background and then the
tech and you leveraging technology to optimize or amplify what
we can do to communicate to other people, or teach
other people or support other people. But that was a
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very closed loop system with a set of structured and
rules that I felt weren't giving the kinds of help
that I was seeing and wanted to talk about, which
is where I sort of expanded and started learning about
actually it was working PTSD, where I started reading about
in the research phase, about psychedelics and other kinds of
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treatment modalities, but also not just compounds that we put
into ourselves, but also things like breath work and mindfulness
and meditation and yoga and how those were helping. And
I started to incorporate some of that into my physical body,
my world, my research and started seeing positive changes. So
it's kind of corny, but I had to live it
and walk it, and then now I'm talking about it
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is basically it. And so what that means at an
enterprise level to answer your question I just had to
build up to it is that it means that when
we look for partners, whether they want to launch a
product or service or they're in a crowded market, or
they want thought leadership or whatever there might be. At
least on the Life Science's division of the New Solutions Network,
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we are really careful about who we partner with now
in terms of who are the people behind this product
or service, What do they stand for, what's their relationship
with the earth and sustainability, what's their relationship with giving
back to others maybe for education or access to resources.
So we're really like a collective of people that are
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it's kind of like impact investing, right Like we look
at what do you stand for, what do you want
to do, and then we say, well, do we have
some skills, services, tools or relationships that can help you.
Let's bring those together. And that's kind of how that
works at a high level. It could be very different.
Sometimes it's quite transactional. Sometimes it's not, especially when there's
like a David and Goliath situation where maybe one is
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a very established organization and the other one isn't.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
It makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Thank you so much for sharing that, and I think
that it's important for us to hear that is that
a lot of the things that do work for the
advantage and to the to the well being of our
own personal health and wellness are a lot of basic
things that if we just went back to that and
we'd be able to see some significant improvements in our
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own journeys.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
And so thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
For validating I think what a lot of people are
starting to realize at this point.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, I mean it's hard giving everyone a break, right, Like,
we're not living all of us. I mean you're in
a we're in different time zones, in different countries and
different you know, cultures of where we're living right now, right,
and so the like society around you is moving very differently.
So saying to people stop and rest a little bit,
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make sure you get your sleep. I see so many
articles about hacking sleep right, people buying devices and taking
pills and this and that for something that is just
like look at a baby, they just lay down in
the middle of the room.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah. Yeah, we need to, we need to. We need
to hear this, I mean talking.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
About to make a successful founder. I used to think
that it was the coolest thing ever to flex on
how little sleep I got, Now on how much sleep
I got well, because my cells are stronger and better
and sharper. The next day, I still I still need improvement. There,
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I'm calling my own self out on this for later.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I mean, I think I think we all do.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I think one of the greatest things about our abilities
as humans is not just our ability to understand where
we are in respect to our own journeys, but also
to seek improved and I think that's human.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
So thank you for sure, thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Now, I do want to ask you this question, because
I think partnerships are built based.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
On common core values and camaraderie. How do you personally.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Select your partners to kind of fulfill and carrying your
vision of govements involvement.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Well, it's kind of like a follow on from the
last question. Really, it's a little woou. But I will
say in this new modality that I'm moving through, which
is really only since COVID, because that was the time
when I got brought to my knees about stop and
think and what are you doing and why? Right, So
it's only about five years old. Not even First of all,
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most of the time, the most successful collaborations have happened
when they're not forced, so where both groups kind of
have a reason to connect and it feels like an
even value exchange. And I know these are kind of obvious,
so forgive me, and to your audience, forgive me. But
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it's like first principles mindset, right, Like it's obvious, but
we sometimes overlook it. So if you just fort yourself
to like go through that checklist that I found myself
because I don't like a lot of you know, preparation
and notes and rules, and I was like, ah, just
do whatever I feel like. So I am being more
intuitive and open about what comes, but I am being
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a little more careful too about Okay, so does this
feel aligned? Am I overcompensating? Am I pushing myself too
much out there? Like trying to prove to you, Joseph,
that you should work with me, like you both should
feel this level of synchronicity pretty quickly and then be
able to without any personal feelings or without any upset,
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be able to also recognize maybe this is an a fit,
or maybe we met and we like each other as
interdisciplinary humans, but we don't have services that click perfectly together.
That's okay, we just keep each other. But you know what,
I think I know someone or you think you know someone,
and so it's actually not a set of rigid rules
or decision tree that I use. It's more how do
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we just find a balance so that everyone feels like
we're coming at this in the same way. And that
even means when you're talking about hiring people who might
be you know, technically below you or you pay them,
you still want to feel like everybody is energetically we
talked about intellectually from other kinds of base and for
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whatever you define that as for yourself or your organization,
like your culture, your vision, how you treat people, how
you show up, so little things like what people stand for. Now,
I've carefully like we have social media guidelines and policies
for people that work with us, because I'm not going
to say what you can and can't do in your
life outside of our company. But if you have a
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lot of hate speech or things that are aggressive towards
certain groups or things like that, we will just respectfully
say we don't align with that, and we just kind
of want to stay to the side of that. So
like it's okay, I'm not telling you what to do
with yourself, but I'm saying, you know, this is where
we differ. And so as long as you figure out
what that looks like for you as an organization or
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as an individual, because I don't know you know some
of your solopreneur founders or you know, they have deeper
trenches there. It doesn't really matter. It's the same rules.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Very insightful. Thank you for no very thank you very insightful.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
We appreciate that because I think what a lot of
people are endeavoring to do as they you know, are
building their careers and you know, people using LinkedIn and
other professional platforms to grow. I think the idea and
concept of networking it's not foreign, but sometimes you can
get a little as cute with with personal values and
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professional values and how these differ. So it is nice
to hear to someone speak about, you know, the proper
way to build a network and and and how to
how to engage your network when they align with core values.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Of their own professional journey.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
So very well said. Now, what I do want you
to because I do want you to mention is I
know you don't like selling, and you know I know
you know, but you know me. I want to hear
it anyways. Uh, I want to know what products and
services are you either offering now or do you want
to offer the future.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I know that when people go to.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Your website get you guys, that is new Solutions Network
dot com.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
That's New Solutions Network dot com.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
And know that when people go to that website, they'll
be able to see of all the things that you
do under the Wellness.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I have a products under the Wellness. We have a
products you know Gateway. I am in collaboration with an
organization called three International, and I was telling you before
we're recorded that, you know, I'm really really dipping my
toe in the water and direct to consumer because I
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want to be very careful. And the reason I have
come in as a founding partner and I'm trying to,
you know, establish more with the corporate but is because
this was the only nutraceutical category that actually had all
of their products in the physician's Digital reference like the
PDR that physicians trust, meaning they're considered whole foods as
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well as the only products all their product line are
actually clinically demonstrated to be absorbed in the body, kind
of like an IV. So the other issues I had
with products that I was trying to collaborate with, either
making my own line with them or what have you,
we don't absorb a lot of these amazing things that
we buy as supplements. So that's kind of why I've
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partnered with them. I have my own interstitial page. If
you go through my site, we have little contests which
you have to go through my thing because the way
they structure it, you know. That's why I want to
really talk about that. But it's mostly because I was
getting a lot of questions and compliments about like, this
is my real hair, non extensions, this is my real skin,
you know whatever. And I was like, They're like, what
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do you eat? What do you do? And I was like, smile, laugh,
be gratitude, forgive yourself, drink water, try and get more sleep,
and you know, eat whole food if you can, or
clean out your gut and start from scratch. And so
that's kind of what this is all about. It's not
about how we look, but it's about how we feel
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and how that healthy feeling shines through how we look
and show up. So whether I was still two hundred
pounds or at where I'm at right now, that's not
the point of this for me, because I am athlete
and I started being able to move my body again
and be strong, you know it, things kind of shifted
into a certain way. But I want to be very clear,
I'm not advocating for any body type or any look
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or a s. It's really just about feeling when you
wake up in the morning, grateful that you woke up
and having the energy to get yourself out of event.
Yeah far way down.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Hey, hey world.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Either you just got to be like I'm getting up.
That's good. I got you.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
It goes back to just some core basic principles. But
I do thank you so much for being.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Able to help us just kind of connect with that
understanding about our own bodies and being able to make
some of those important decisions that are very simple but
that can such have such a positive and overwhelmingly a
powerful impact on our wellness and our well being. Now,
before I let you go, because I know that you
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have probably a thousand things to do today, I do
want to ask you this question, and it's more a
question about a device.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
You know, what advice would you give someone who is.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Navigating through their professional journey but finding it difficult to
balance their corporate professional responsibilities with their wellness and their
health and other responsibilities.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Sure, I mean again, this is from a sample size
of one. This is my personal opinion. I will say
it was interesting to me, and I'll say this as
quickly as I can, sorry, working with med students of
colleague with a med student education startup Right came out
of some established medical schools that most people have heard of,
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was doing the medical director for a testing company and
is doing their own thing. And in a lot of
the pre meetings, I noticed that these med students kind
of looked and they weren't even actually hungover but for sorry,
but like everybody looked pretty rough, right, And then they
had the big energy drinks and the can in the side,
and I was like, hey, you guys, like we're talking
about healing, what are you doing? And they're going to
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be doctors And so I only say that out of
love and respect, because they're also pushed to physical extremes
to become a healthcare provider. So I want to say
first that all of us, even those in charged with
being the guiding light of health and wellness, struggle with
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taking care of ourselves. So I just want to put
that out there that I don't think anyone's perfect, and
even the people on their way to be experts, and
the experts if they're being really honest, probably struggle in
some dimensions with this, and myself included. I am not perfect.
I still love sugar too much. I have a lot
of things I'm working on. So that's I need to
have the caveat because I want it to be layered
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in the way it's received and such that it's really
the way we talk to ourselves first, that I think
is the starting point of being able to shift how
you take care of yourself, because part of the problem
is that we lie to ourselves all the time. We
lie to others, and we lie to ourselves meaning about
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our habits, what's in our best interests. And when we
take a moment and just say, let me check in
with myself or maybe that language isn't for you. Maybe
it's like I gotta take a beat, or I gotta
do a gut check, or whatever you want to call it.
But if you give yourself thirty sixty or ninety seconds
to pause and think, what do I need right now?
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Maybe it's food, is it protein, Maybe it's water. Maybe
it's a nap, Maybe it's a walk. Maybe it's a
scream or a cry, or sex or whatever it is
you actually know, because guess what you know, it's just
you're cut off from that because of the way we
move through our conscious mind in this work your day world. Right,
So I don't care if you're about to give a
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speech to ten thousand people in an auditorium about cellular
mitosis or your new SaaS platform, or you're going to
your kid kindergarten and you're gonna go just do pickup line.
It doesn't matter. We all kind of know what we need,
but we have to kind of calm down to look
in and think about what that is. And I would say,
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build that into your day. Build one Can you give
me one minute? Natanya's annoying minute mindset, That's the thing
I was pushing. I was like, give me a minute
every day. I swear you'll like. If you do that,
you will feel something. You will feel something shift within you,
and then you will start to get more signals about
what you need to do differently, maybe a meeting that
you shouldn't do or put off to the next day
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because it's just too much, or maybe something that you
need to take on. Maybe you need a nudge and
you need more inspiration. So for every one person, I
would say, there's that, and then there's sort of like
your ride or die, and that ride or die is
like your sounding board, right, and that this person could
be a therapist, it could be a part and romantic partner,
it could be a friend. It's someone who knows you
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warts and all, but is on your team and on
your side. And that could be a nu, gut checked
person to bounce off your feeling with if you don't
feel like in yourself the cure. So that would be
my little advice. It's again, it's not rocket surgery here.
I said that on purpose like that, but it's really
just that we're all learning, we're all struggling. Just be
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open about it. I think the hardest thing for me
was to admit that I needed help. And for type
A people that can be really difficult, and for founders
and for deadlines and for the churn of go go,
go go, and everything always on. It's sometimes the simplest
and most difficult thing to stop and pause. And so
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that would be my first event. And then the what
you do is probably within you. You know what to do.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Well, sir.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I think that is fantastic advice, especially as we navigate
through the rest of twenty twenty five, which seems from
the looks that it is going to be extremely eventful
for all professionals across the board internationally. I do love
the idea of self checking and reflecting and making sure
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that you have someone in your life to be able
to balance ideas and thoughts, all of it.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I think that as we move through our professional journeys
in twenty twenty five, it's so important for.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Us to check not only on ourselves, but also on
others around us. And I think your interview is going
to be so pivotabal for so many professionals out there
who are looking to stay authentic, keep themselves, but at
the same time still grow. So we want to thank
you so much for taking the time to be on
our show today and to share your expertise. For those
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of you guys who don't know, you can also catch
our interview and Founder one hundred magazine for you. For
you guys to check that out again, just go to
the link of the description of this show and that
will direct you right there. Thank you so much for
being on today's program. We really appreciate it having me.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Thank you. Likewise, I hope, I hope somebody finds some
utility or just you know resonates that you know, we're
all here just trying to get by.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Natalia.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I think that people are going to resonate with mainly
is just how authentic you are and your message came
across a lot over here and we receive it and.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
We appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Thank you, and likewise absolutely thank you for doing this
for so many people. I really I love the fact
that you know, I will leave with this. These kinds
of networks and platforms that you've created, they just did
not exist twenty thirty years ago, or they certainly only
existed for maybe the upper echelon of the C suite,
And so I think that's another thing. You know, we've
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democratized so much. So help is there for you, Support
is there for you, Insight is there for you, Wisdom
is there for you. Partners are there for you, and
thank providing that to the world. So I just want
to also toss it back to you and say thanks.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Jose Well, thank you so much. Well.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I appreciate that, and my audience certainly appreciates that as well. Now,
before we let you guys go and home, I do
like to stick around for a word from our partners.
Hey, what's going on you guys?
Speaker 2 (00:01):
This is Joseph Bonner and welcome to Founder one hundred podcasts.
Or if you're listening or watching this on television, you
are now also watching Inspiration News. I am your host,
Joseph Bonner, And as you guys already know, all of
our episodes, we bring in amazing and inspiring guests that
have not only a story to share, but a legacy
to the fill. And without further ado, I do, guys,
(00:24):
want to welcome you to the show.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Doctor.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Let's say, Natanya, is it watching when I pronouncing your
last nay correctly?
Speaker 3 (00:31):
Watch your lockown? Yeah?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (00:34):
Now for the duration of the interview that she is
a doctor, I can call you the time and.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Say, okay, yes, please call me Natanya.
Speaker 2 (00:41):
All right now, I asked because I want to make
sure that we give the respect due to all of
our special guests.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
And you.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Have spent an interesting story now to kind of just
jump start.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
You used to be two hundred and ninety eight pounds.
You were paralyzed and.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
You even so that you were never gonna walk again,
but you somehow went from there.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
To rebuild your life. You tell us about that.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Journey sure, Well, I'm a recovering workaholic, uh type, a
neurotic person with this you know, sort of cliched immigrant
go go go, go go drive, and was participating in
sports when I was younger, and all kinds of activities
(01:28):
were Pushing yourself was a badge of honor. Not stopping
to rest or rest for help, you know, was the
way it goes, which is probably why that translated so
well to be able to work with you know, athletes
and high steaks individuals, because I was like, oh, I
was like you, even though I don't maybe look like
I'm in the right package for that mindset. So basically, yeah,
(01:51):
I had a bunch of children, and in that time
and in the journey, uh, you know, things shift around,
and maybe some old injuries from sports related injuries that
weren't given the medical attention that they should have had,
and so things maybe shifted. Specifically, I had a piece
of calcified mass in my spine that when I gave
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birth to my twins, I was like, I got to
go back to workout, and I like lifted some weights
and I broke my back. But I didn't think that
I broke my back, and I didn't think it was
such a big deal. But eventually within four to five days,
because I didn't want to go to the hospital, I
was like, it's fine, I'll just rest. I was like
dragging my leg all the ground because I'm a crazy
person and this is being recorded that I just didn't
(02:40):
really think it was going to be such a big deal.
And then they were like, do you understand what is
happening to you? And I also, I give you know,
my daughters were infants and I'm like still was nursing,
and they were like, I was like, I can't take anything,
so I couldn't take any painkillers. Then I finally broke
down and was like, okay, I'm going to take a painkiller.
And I didn't feel any relief. And I'm usually very
sensitive to that stuff. So they're like, well, the only
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thing we can think of is come to the hospital
and we'll give you IV pain management. Because I was like,
I think my back really hurts. I said, well, basically
on the fourth day of dragging myself around, I was
like I think, okay, I have to go to the hospital,
so very calmly and I was pretty much awake. Yeah,
we arranged to go, and that's when they put me
(03:23):
into an MRI and we're like strapping me to the thing,
and I was like, what's going on there? Like you're
a paralysis risk. Your spine is impinged and I was like, oh,
like I thought it was disc and I would get
some pain medicine and rest and walk out. And turns
out I was going to have to have spinal surgery
and they wouldn't even have like the right surgeon, and
(03:43):
then I started panicking so fast forward had the operation,
was told we're not sure if you will walk again,
And it was a year of time to fully come
back to walking because I did lose use of my
legs for a while and had to you know, have
a nurse and a walk and it was it was
pretty awful. Oh and newborn twins like being brought to
me because I couldn't parents because I was in bed.
(04:06):
So yeah, that was that. And I also had some
other things going on that we didn't find that I had.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
I don't know why we're talking about all my medical
but just to say it was a journey. And I
was also running businesses and acting like nothing was wrong
this entire time.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Wow, now during now, during that time, is that when
you put all the weight.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Yeah, i'd you know, I had some ups and downs
being a parent, just life stuff, you know, and I
had some other things going on that we found out later,
some some thyroid stuff and I did have to have
a small surgery there where I was like, I'm not
eating that much, what's going on because I was always
kind of on the go. So that all got sorted out.
(04:48):
But it was two and a half years to lose
the weight that took me one year to put on.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
Yeah, that makes that that makes a lot of sense.
But you know, this is you know, you.
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Encountered an unexpected situation to your health and welvement and
from that point forward one two years past DA, how
were you able to number one, rebuild your life from
that point?
Speaker 3 (05:21):
So that's a great question. If that was the only
thing that happened to me medically, it would be an
easier story. So I'll encapsulate let's say, three or four
other things that are kind of hard to believe, but
they all happened, and I had the receipts With an
oncology situation. I was also lost my first husband kind
of young and had you a son there, so I
(05:43):
had a lot of like death and sickness and stuff
surrounding me and stress about that always with the breadwinner.
This back thing was just one other thing. I also
had a hyatal hernia they didn't diagnose, which was at
the same time in the front of my body, which
made them think that I had asthma because I couldn't
breathe and it was getting worse and worse, and the
bigger I got, the more medicine they gave me, steroids
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and hale. It was just awful, like everything was messed up.
I was in pain all the time. I was angry
all the time. Angry, I was just a different person.
And so I said to you right before we recorded,
you know, I wish I could tell you it was
like one thing when someone says I hit rock bottom
and then I came out. Well, it took me a
(06:24):
couple knocks. I didn't have like a singular event like
the breaking the bag was one thing. So it was
several years of pretty horrific physical ailments and things and
prognoses that I just started to say, I'm not going
to believe any of this, and I'm gonna walk, I'm
(06:44):
gonna dance, I'm gonna roller skate, which I did for
my forty ninth birthday last year. And I just did
it and I read about people who did it and
that inspired me. I read, I was given books Joe
Despenza and how He you know, visual back I did it,
I was like, well, what's it going to hurt? And
so I didn't believe in any of that stuff, I
(07:05):
should say, before any of the Eastern things, and it
completely opened my mind. I had been Western science focused
and trained. I also want to be very clear, I'm
not a medical doctor. I'm not currently licensed therapist. I'm
just a human being that did a lot of schooling
because I'm a nerd and liked it. So these are
all sort of anecdotal and stories and personal accounts as
(07:30):
well as clinical accounts of spontaneous regressions in oncology or
people healing, you know. But I was like, what's the
common thread? What did all these people do that's the same,
And so much of it is well kind of also
what we were talking about before. It's basic stuff and
it doesn't actually any money.
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Yeah, and that makes a lot of sense, you know,
when we're talking about health and wellness, and now as
a founder you have website, New Solutionsnetwork dot com for
those of you guys who like to go visit that.
You can look at the description of this show whether
you're watching on TV are listening on on your favorite podcast.
So I definitely want to encourage you guys to do
(08:09):
that now through your website.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
You actually it's like a gateway to.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
A lot of the things that you do do in
order to support wellness, involving not just for yourself but
also for the community. Can you tell me a little
bit about revolutionizing healthcare through collaborations, like, what is your
idea is there?
Speaker 3 (08:30):
So I worked inside of Big Pharma, which you know,
in the current climate, that's a really dirty thing to say,
I guess, but I really tried. I wanted to be
a part of the helping group. I did not do sales.
I'm not saying salespeople are bad or anything. I'm just
saying I worked in chronic disease management and education, both
for patients, care providers and clinicians, especially in areas like
(08:53):
mental health and CNS, but also in diabetes and oncology,
things where there's chronic disease and people are struggle with
how to manage this into their daily life. So that
was sort of like the therapy background and then the
tech and you leveraging technology to optimize or amplify what
we can do to communicate to other people, or teach
other people or support other people. But that was a
(09:15):
very closed loop system with a set of structured and
rules that I felt weren't giving the kinds of help
that I was seeing and wanted to talk about, which
is where I sort of expanded and started learning about
actually it was working PTSD, where I started reading about
in the research phase, about psychedelics and other kinds of
(09:38):
treatment modalities, but also not just compounds that we put
into ourselves, but also things like breath work and mindfulness
and meditation and yoga and how those were helping. And
I started to incorporate some of that into my physical body,
my world, my research and started seeing positive changes. So
it's kind of corny, but I had to live it
and walk it, and then now I'm talking about it
(10:00):
is basically it. And so what that means at an
enterprise level to answer your question I just had to
build up to it is that it means that when
we look for partners, whether they want to launch a
product or service or they're in a crowded market, or
they want thought leadership or whatever there might be. At
least on the Life Science's division of the New Solutions Network,
(10:21):
we are really careful about who we partner with now
in terms of who are the people behind this product
or service, What do they stand for, what's their relationship
with the earth and sustainability, what's their relationship with giving
back to others maybe for education or access to resources.
So we're really like a collective of people that are
(10:44):
it's kind of like impact investing, right Like we look
at what do you stand for, what do you want
to do, and then we say, well, do we have
some skills, services, tools or relationships that can help you.
Let's bring those together. And that's kind of how that
works at a high level. It could be very different.
Sometimes it's quite transactional. Sometimes it's not, especially when there's
like a David and Goliath situation where maybe one is
(11:04):
a very established organization and the other one isn't.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
It makes a lot of sense.
Speaker 2 (11:10):
Thank you so much for sharing that, and I think
that it's important for us to hear that is that
a lot of the things that do work for the
advantage and to the to the well being of our
own personal health and wellness are a lot of basic
things that if we just went back to that and
we'd be able to see some significant improvements in our
(11:30):
own journeys.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
And so thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
For validating I think what a lot of people are
starting to realize at this point.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Yeah, I mean it's hard giving everyone a break, right, Like,
we're not living all of us. I mean you're in
a we're in different time zones, in different countries and
different you know, cultures of where we're living right now, right,
and so the like society around you is moving very differently.
So saying to people stop and rest a little bit,
(12:01):
make sure you get your sleep. I see so many
articles about hacking sleep right, people buying devices and taking
pills and this and that for something that is just
like look at a baby, they just lay down in
the middle of the room.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
Yeah. Yeah, we need to, we need to. We need
to hear this, I mean talking.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
About to make a successful founder. I used to think
that it was the coolest thing ever to flex on
how little sleep I got, Now on how much sleep
I got well, because my cells are stronger and better
and sharper. The next day, I still I still need improvement. There,
(12:42):
I'm calling my own self out on this for later.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
I mean, I think I think we all do.
Speaker 2 (12:47):
I think one of the greatest things about our abilities
as humans is not just our ability to understand where
we are in respect to our own journeys, but also
to seek improved and I think that's human.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
So thank you for sure, thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Now, I do want to ask you this question, because
I think partnerships are built based.
Speaker 1 (13:10):
On common core values and camaraderie. How do you personally.
Speaker 2 (13:20):
Select your partners to kind of fulfill and carrying your
vision of govements involvement.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Well, it's kind of like a follow on from the
last question. Really, it's a little woou. But I will
say in this new modality that I'm moving through, which
is really only since COVID, because that was the time
when I got brought to my knees about stop and
think and what are you doing and why? Right, So
it's only about five years old. Not even First of all,
(13:53):
most of the time, the most successful collaborations have happened
when they're not forced, so where both groups kind of
have a reason to connect and it feels like an
even value exchange. And I know these are kind of obvious,
so forgive me, and to your audience, forgive me. But
(14:13):
it's like first principles mindset, right, Like it's obvious, but
we sometimes overlook it. So if you just fort yourself
to like go through that checklist that I found myself
because I don't like a lot of you know, preparation
and notes and rules, and I was like, ah, just
do whatever I feel like. So I am being more
intuitive and open about what comes, but I am being
(14:35):
a little more careful too about Okay, so does this
feel aligned? Am I overcompensating? Am I pushing myself too
much out there? Like trying to prove to you, Joseph,
that you should work with me, like you both should
feel this level of synchronicity pretty quickly and then be
able to without any personal feelings or without any upset,
(14:57):
be able to also recognize maybe this is an a fit,
or maybe we met and we like each other as
interdisciplinary humans, but we don't have services that click perfectly together.
That's okay, we just keep each other. But you know what,
I think I know someone or you think you know someone,
and so it's actually not a set of rigid rules
or decision tree that I use. It's more how do
(15:19):
we just find a balance so that everyone feels like
we're coming at this in the same way. And that
even means when you're talking about hiring people who might
be you know, technically below you or you pay them,
you still want to feel like everybody is energetically we
talked about intellectually from other kinds of base and for
(15:41):
whatever you define that as for yourself or your organization,
like your culture, your vision, how you treat people, how
you show up, so little things like what people stand for. Now,
I've carefully like we have social media guidelines and policies
for people that work with us, because I'm not going
to say what you can and can't do in your
life outside of our company. But if you have a
(16:03):
lot of hate speech or things that are aggressive towards
certain groups or things like that, we will just respectfully
say we don't align with that, and we just kind
of want to stay to the side of that. So
like it's okay, I'm not telling you what to do
with yourself, but I'm saying, you know, this is where
we differ. And so as long as you figure out
what that looks like for you as an organization or
(16:25):
as an individual, because I don't know you know some
of your solopreneur founders or you know, they have deeper
trenches there. It doesn't really matter. It's the same rules.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Very insightful. Thank you for no very thank you very insightful.
Speaker 2 (16:40):
We appreciate that because I think what a lot of
people are endeavoring to do as they you know, are
building their careers and you know, people using LinkedIn and
other professional platforms to grow. I think the idea and
concept of networking it's not foreign, but sometimes you can
get a little as cute with with personal values and
(17:01):
professional values and how these differ. So it is nice
to hear to someone speak about, you know, the proper
way to build a network and and and how to
how to engage your network when they align with core values.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Of their own professional journey.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
So very well said. Now, what I do want you
to because I do want you to mention is I
know you don't like selling, and you know I know
you know, but you know me. I want to hear
it anyways. Uh, I want to know what products and
services are you either offering now or do you want
to offer the future.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
I know that when people go to.
Speaker 2 (17:37):
Your website get you guys, that is new Solutions Network
dot com.
Speaker 1 (17:42):
That's New Solutions Network dot com.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
And know that when people go to that website, they'll
be able to see of all the things that you
do under the Wellness.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
I have a products under the Wellness. We have a
products you know Gateway. I am in collaboration with an
organization called three International, and I was telling you before
we're recorded that, you know, I'm really really dipping my
toe in the water and direct to consumer because I
(18:11):
want to be very careful. And the reason I have
come in as a founding partner and I'm trying to,
you know, establish more with the corporate but is because
this was the only nutraceutical category that actually had all
of their products in the physician's Digital reference like the
PDR that physicians trust, meaning they're considered whole foods as
(18:31):
well as the only products all their product line are
actually clinically demonstrated to be absorbed in the body, kind
of like an IV. So the other issues I had
with products that I was trying to collaborate with, either
making my own line with them or what have you,
we don't absorb a lot of these amazing things that
we buy as supplements. So that's kind of why I've
(18:54):
partnered with them. I have my own interstitial page. If
you go through my site, we have little contests which
you have to go through my thing because the way
they structure it, you know. That's why I want to
really talk about that. But it's mostly because I was
getting a lot of questions and compliments about like, this
is my real hair, non extensions, this is my real skin,
you know whatever. And I was like, They're like, what
(19:15):
do you eat? What do you do? And I was like, smile, laugh,
be gratitude, forgive yourself, drink water, try and get more sleep,
and you know, eat whole food if you can, or
clean out your gut and start from scratch. And so
that's kind of what this is all about. It's not
about how we look, but it's about how we feel
(19:36):
and how that healthy feeling shines through how we look
and show up. So whether I was still two hundred
pounds or at where I'm at right now, that's not
the point of this for me, because I am athlete
and I started being able to move my body again
and be strong, you know it, things kind of shifted
into a certain way. But I want to be very clear,
I'm not advocating for any body type or any look
(19:59):
or a s. It's really just about feeling when you
wake up in the morning, grateful that you woke up
and having the energy to get yourself out of event.
Yeah far way down.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
Hey, hey world.
Speaker 3 (20:17):
Either you just got to be like I'm getting up.
That's good. I got you.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
It goes back to just some core basic principles. But
I do thank you so much for being.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
Able to help us just kind of connect with that
understanding about our own bodies and being able to make
some of those important decisions that are very simple but
that can such have such a positive and overwhelmingly a
powerful impact on our wellness and our well being. Now,
before I let you go, because I know that you
(20:48):
have probably a thousand things to do today, I do
want to ask you this question, and it's more a
question about a device.
Speaker 1 (20:55):
You know, what advice would you give someone who is.
Speaker 2 (21:00):
Navigating through their professional journey but finding it difficult to
balance their corporate professional responsibilities with their wellness and their
health and other responsibilities.
Speaker 3 (21:17):
Sure, I mean again, this is from a sample size
of one. This is my personal opinion. I will say
it was interesting to me, and I'll say this as
quickly as I can, sorry, working with med students of
colleague with a med student education startup Right came out
of some established medical schools that most people have heard of,
(21:41):
was doing the medical director for a testing company and
is doing their own thing. And in a lot of
the pre meetings, I noticed that these med students kind
of looked and they weren't even actually hungover but for sorry,
but like everybody looked pretty rough, right, And then they
had the big energy drinks and the can in the side,
and I was like, hey, you guys, like we're talking
about healing, what are you doing? And they're going to
(22:05):
be doctors And so I only say that out of
love and respect, because they're also pushed to physical extremes
to become a healthcare provider. So I want to say
first that all of us, even those in charged with
being the guiding light of health and wellness, struggle with
(22:25):
taking care of ourselves. So I just want to put
that out there that I don't think anyone's perfect, and
even the people on their way to be experts, and
the experts if they're being really honest, probably struggle in
some dimensions with this, and myself included. I am not perfect.
I still love sugar too much. I have a lot
of things I'm working on. So that's I need to
have the caveat because I want it to be layered
(22:47):
in the way it's received and such that it's really
the way we talk to ourselves first, that I think
is the starting point of being able to shift how
you take care of yourself, because part of the problem
is that we lie to ourselves all the time. We
lie to others, and we lie to ourselves meaning about
(23:09):
our habits, what's in our best interests. And when we
take a moment and just say, let me check in
with myself or maybe that language isn't for you. Maybe
it's like I gotta take a beat, or I gotta
do a gut check, or whatever you want to call it.
But if you give yourself thirty sixty or ninety seconds
to pause and think, what do I need right now?
(23:30):
Maybe it's food, is it protein, Maybe it's water. Maybe
it's a nap, Maybe it's a walk. Maybe it's a
scream or a cry, or sex or whatever it is
you actually know, because guess what you know, it's just
you're cut off from that because of the way we
move through our conscious mind in this work your day world. Right,
So I don't care if you're about to give a
(23:52):
speech to ten thousand people in an auditorium about cellular
mitosis or your new SaaS platform, or you're going to
your kid kindergarten and you're gonna go just do pickup line.
It doesn't matter. We all kind of know what we need,
but we have to kind of calm down to look
in and think about what that is. And I would say,
(24:13):
build that into your day. Build one Can you give
me one minute? Natanya's annoying minute mindset, That's the thing
I was pushing. I was like, give me a minute
every day. I swear you'll like. If you do that,
you will feel something. You will feel something shift within you,
and then you will start to get more signals about
what you need to do differently, maybe a meeting that
you shouldn't do or put off to the next day
(24:34):
because it's just too much, or maybe something that you
need to take on. Maybe you need a nudge and
you need more inspiration. So for every one person, I
would say, there's that, and then there's sort of like
your ride or die, and that ride or die is
like your sounding board, right, and that this person could
be a therapist, it could be a part and romantic partner,
it could be a friend. It's someone who knows you
(24:54):
warts and all, but is on your team and on
your side. And that could be a nu, gut checked
person to bounce off your feeling with if you don't
feel like in yourself the cure. So that would be
my little advice. It's again, it's not rocket surgery here.
I said that on purpose like that, but it's really
just that we're all learning, we're all struggling. Just be
(25:16):
open about it. I think the hardest thing for me
was to admit that I needed help. And for type
A people that can be really difficult, and for founders
and for deadlines and for the churn of go go,
go go, and everything always on. It's sometimes the simplest
and most difficult thing to stop and pause. And so
(25:37):
that would be my first event. And then the what
you do is probably within you. You know what to do.
Speaker 1 (25:42):
Well, sir.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
I think that is fantastic advice, especially as we navigate
through the rest of twenty twenty five, which seems from
the looks that it is going to be extremely eventful
for all professionals across the board internationally. I do love
the idea of self checking and reflecting and making sure
(26:04):
that you have someone in your life to be able
to balance ideas and thoughts, all of it.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
I think that as we move through our professional journeys
in twenty twenty five, it's so important for.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
Us to check not only on ourselves, but also on
others around us. And I think your interview is going
to be so pivotabal for so many professionals out there
who are looking to stay authentic, keep themselves, but at
the same time still grow. So we want to thank
you so much for taking the time to be on
our show today and to share your expertise. For those
(26:35):
of you guys who don't know, you can also catch
our interview and Founder one hundred magazine for you. For
you guys to check that out again, just go to
the link of the description of this show and that
will direct you right there. Thank you so much for
being on today's program. We really appreciate it having me.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Thank you. Likewise, I hope, I hope somebody finds some
utility or just you know resonates that you know, we're
all here just trying to get by.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
Natalia.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
I think that people are going to resonate with mainly
is just how authentic you are and your message came
across a lot over here and we receive it and.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
We appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (27:16):
Thank you, and likewise absolutely thank you for doing this
for so many people. I really I love the fact
that you know, I will leave with this. These kinds
of networks and platforms that you've created, they just did
not exist twenty thirty years ago, or they certainly only
existed for maybe the upper echelon of the C suite,
And so I think that's another thing. You know, we've
(27:38):
democratized so much. So help is there for you, Support
is there for you, Insight is there for you, Wisdom
is there for you. Partners are there for you, and
thank providing that to the world. So I just want
to also toss it back to you and say thanks.
Speaker 1 (27:52):
Jose Well, thank you so much. Well.
Speaker 2 (27:53):
I appreciate that, and my audience certainly appreciates that as well. Now,
before we let you guys go and home, I do
like to stick around for a word from our partners.
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