Francis Egolf the Ex-Occultist-LET'S GET JACKED UP!

October 31, 2025 Halloween Special 1
Francis Egolf the Ex-Occultist-LET'S GET JACKED UP!

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Speaker 2 (00:56):
Coming to you live from a pre recorded studio somewhere
in Fresno, California.

Speaker 3 (01:02):
It's let's get jacked up, Sinners Saved by Grace now
Here are the hosts of this episode, Tim, maybe, Jack.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Bobby and Karen. We just never know anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:21):
Right, and welcome to Let's get down all right?

Speaker 5 (01:27):
Hey, everybody, hope everyone's doing well on this well, you know,
Halloween special night and well with me today is my
co host Jack Blank and Ship how are you? Jack?

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Good?

Speaker 5 (01:42):
And we have a special guest and his name is
Francis Egolff, and Francis happens to be an ex Satanist
and he is a reform now and he's going to
tell a story. And so, Francis, how are you today tonight?

Speaker 1 (01:57):
I'm doing great. Everybody knows me more by Pancho. But Francis,
I'll work too.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
Okay, Well, Pancho, you have an awesome story out here.
And so why didn't you start to where you became
a Satanist? How did that happen? And how that start?

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Well it's kind of a little long. So how much
time do we have.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
Well, well, we'll just see what happens. We'll go from there.

Speaker 6 (02:24):
Well, i'll tell you from as a little kid, I
was kind of curious. So as I was a little
kid with I started playing with the Wiji board as
a kid and got hooked into that.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
And then at school I would look for like books.

Speaker 6 (02:40):
And magazines all about witchcrack and and how I can
time your spells and and how you know to do
stuff like that. And at the same time, my parents.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Would always like if they would catch me doing anything
like that, they.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
Would always, uh, you know, get in trouble and it
put in you know, get spank or whatever, you know.
But it seems like I was always interested in it.
Then I started finding music that kind of went with it.
So I kind of got thinking that I was like
a wizard. That's sort of my brain was thinking that

(03:19):
I was the weirder. That I can do spell, that
I can do mixed different things, and and and.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
And think that I can do that.

Speaker 6 (03:28):
But the more, you know, the more drugs and alcohol
that I did. When I got into my teenage years,
I got more into finding out more about it. I
started looking at more magazine you know, I started ordering magazines, books,
you know, things on the whole subject. And uh, it
seems like every time that I would start looking at

(03:50):
more and more, but I would find more different people
that were interested in it, and and just talk to
people and and slowly and slowly, it seems like I
got like, how would I say, I kind of got
into it by just.

Speaker 7 (04:09):
Migration, you know, but it's kind.

Speaker 6 (04:12):
Of there were more like, you know, showing me how
to get into it more and more.

Speaker 1 (04:16):
I hadn't really joined, you know.

Speaker 6 (04:20):
As a Satanist yet, you know, I still hadn't got
into the whole whole thing about it. I would read
some things on the Satanist Bible and because my friends
would have it, and.

Speaker 1 (04:31):
We would look into that and see, we'll see.

Speaker 6 (04:33):
If we get up, you know, find out spells about that.
And uh, I was more into the witchcraft part of
it than I wasn't to the actual Satanists. But when
I moved to Florida in my eighty six eighty seven,
I started getting into the witch's circles and they would

(04:53):
invite me into their their rituals and stuff and asked
me if I wanted to join, and you know, ended
up joining one of the blood blood ceremonies. And I
never swear that they would get me to the point
where I was almost in the circle, but wouldn't let
me go in the circle. Well I don't know if
that was God stopping me from going in the circle

(05:16):
and not being a full part of the whole ritual.
So I kind of got to be like a Satanist
on the outside, you know, not being a full devoted
singings because I never never got a chance to even
go to any of the big ceremonies that.

Speaker 7 (05:29):
They would do.

Speaker 6 (05:30):
But it seems like I was always hanging out with
people that were you know, The more craziest part for
me was when I was in.

Speaker 7 (05:37):
San Diego and I had already.

Speaker 6 (05:40):
Gotten in recovery and I ended up with some of
these groups. They were like vampires, and they believed that
there were vampires that would drink blood, that would you know,
eat you know, animals and stuff like that. And they
had another blood ritual and it was a downtown in San.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
Diego, and it was really weird how scary that situation was.

Speaker 6 (06:05):
They started as a joke, you know that, well, we're
going to have this little ceremony, and at the end
everybody was was naked and full of blood by the
time they were gone. And so my my my statanist
that I got into was more not knowing, you know,
who God was. I kind of knew God by by,

(06:27):
you know, my my parents were Catholic and they were
sending me to church and everything, but I could it
just couldn't get be a part of being a Christian.
It's like my body, not my body, but my mind
wasn't released.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
To be in a Christian.

Speaker 5 (06:43):
So so you you believed or you knew that there
was a God, but you just didn't want to have
anything to do with them.

Speaker 6 (06:49):
At the time, No, not when not, When I was
still doing drugs and still you.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Know, drinking.

Speaker 6 (06:54):
It was kind of taking away from what I wanted
to do more. I just wanted to do. They always say,
I just wanted to do me, you know, And.

Speaker 5 (07:02):
You were at that time, you were your own guy.

Speaker 6 (07:04):
Huh yeah, thinking that I was indestructible and all that.
You know, how you get and everything you feel like
your bulletproof. You feel like, uh, you feel like enough
to stop you. Uh my big but my biggest scare was, uh,
I had to you know, stop doing drugs, and out
of nowhere, Uh, I started, you know, conjured, conjuring the

(07:28):
devil and ask him that, you know, to show himself
and and be a part of my life at that time.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
And actually, in some.

Speaker 6 (07:37):
Weird way, I feel like I met him. He didn't
give me let me see his whole face or anything.
It was just a h a shadowy person and uh
in the dark in the corner, and all you can
see is the red, beady eyes.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
It's like, weird, how he how close.

Speaker 6 (07:54):
I came to actually giving my life to the devil
and not fully doing it, you know, It's like I
was got close.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
And then when that happened.

Speaker 6 (08:01):
That so what scared me and I started, uh searching
for God because it just got to the point where
I'm going.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
I don't want to do this. I don't know why
why I wanted to.

Speaker 7 (08:10):
Do that at the time. And when I got to
that point.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
I said, I don't want to do this. Guy, please
help me.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
And it was just a weird situation. I got myself
into that situation.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
It didn't seem as real when I was with the
you know, with the witches and everything.

Speaker 6 (08:28):
It was more real when it was one on one
and and it was just about ready to give my life,
you know, give my soul and sell my soul to
the devil.

Speaker 5 (08:37):
And and so you also did some jail time, is
that right?

Speaker 1 (08:43):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (08:43):
Yes, Uh, I got jail time in San Diego, I
got jail time, and Tijuana, I got jail time.

Speaker 1 (08:53):
In Florida. It seems wherever I went to, it seems
that ended.

Speaker 7 (08:57):
Up in jail.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
But this is all you know in my drug using
You know.

Speaker 6 (09:02):
The times that I ended up in Mexicool in uh
in the jails over there that was worse than any
jail over here. There they sit there, your beds are
all cement or metal. There's no there's no pads or anything.
If you didn't have any blankets, If you didn't have

(09:25):
any blankets, you know that nobody would supply you with blankets.
The food was you know, corn, corn beans and whatever
they want to feed you.

Speaker 1 (09:36):
If you didn't have money to feed yourself. You know.

Speaker 6 (09:38):
Luckily I had a family that that actually fed me,
you know, that actually came in and brought me food
and brought me blankets. And but that was that was
more scarier than ever doing any jail time here in America.
And in America it.

Speaker 1 (09:55):
Feels like club med, you know, compared compared it down there.

Speaker 6 (10:01):
Yes, and uh, in San Diego at the time I
ended up in jail there was because I they had
this new rule in California that if you came across
the border drinking or smelled of alcoholic because immlily, immediately
you go to jail. So that's how I ended up
going to jail for it. Then I came to my

(10:25):
court date and I was drinking before and I missed
my court date, and the judge asked me, you know,
why did you miss your court date?

Speaker 1 (10:34):
I said, well, I was drunk. I forgot about it.

Speaker 6 (10:37):
The word not the best thing to tell the duds
and said, you know ninety days for that.

Speaker 5 (10:43):
Wow, it's like you're not you're.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
Not very smart when you're drinking and doing drugs.

Speaker 5 (10:48):
No, but you know what I give you. At least
you were honest about it.

Speaker 6 (10:53):
But some of the stuff you know that you you know,
you've got to be honest about it because if all
you're doing is lying to yourself. Here, now you know,
I can get honest about it. You know, all of
the stuff that I didn't, you know, with the Witschcraft
and everything. It's like I can't believe that I ended
up there, you know, because the way I saw myself

(11:13):
when I was a little kid, I thought I was
gonna be a good boy. I was gonna wait, wait
h and not have sex until I was married, and
all that stuff. That was my ideals in my you know,
my family and cousins and everything. We would always talk
about that, you know, you're gonna find a beautiful woman,
get married to her, and and you know, not have

(11:33):
sex until you're married. But as soon as I got
to America, because I was raised in Rosaredo Beach, Bajun, California,
for about ten years. I was born in California but
raised down there, so I was by those ideals and
how I got I got raised, and all of them,

(11:55):
you know, always thought, you know, well it was they
really believe that, you know, having said before marriage was
a sin. Right, But in California, when you you know,
get around the drinking crowds, doing drugs and everything, it
all changes. It's like any any woman it comes around,
that's your you know, that's gonna be the woman that
you're gonna be sleeping with.

Speaker 1 (12:16):
It doesn't mean you're gonna be marrying her.

Speaker 6 (12:18):
It's just weird how the how it went from not
wanting to have sex and all of a sudden you
ended up having sex.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
You know.

Speaker 6 (12:26):
It was just a weird thing that that happens when
you get to California.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
California, it's called loved period. Right. Yeah, you guys should
know what a what ages are you guys?

Speaker 5 (12:39):
Well, I'm six, Yeah, he's sixty five. I'm forty six,
and I came from actually Ohio, and I moved from
Ohio in nineteen ninety four to over here, and so
I've been here since. But yeah, it is it was
quite a culture shock, you know when I was fifteen,
sixteen years old moving over here, and it's just like

(13:00):
everything over here is fast paced. You know, there's no
it's like our life happens fast over here and over
there you take your time with your your work, your schooling, everything.

Speaker 1 (13:13):
Yes, yeah, My mine was that, you know.

Speaker 6 (13:16):
At twelve years old, I went from from Rosa Rito Beach,
you know, to to San Diego, California, and it's like,
as soon as I got there, you know, people are
you know, offer me drugs, offer me.

Speaker 7 (13:30):
It was just weird.

Speaker 6 (13:30):
If I wanted to be in a gang, you know
all that stuff. You know, It's like it was just crazy.
How you go from one one type of schooling where
you're always there, always talking about even in the schools
of med school they talk about God, you know, and
it's weird that you get in California you can't even.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
Talk about God. It's just a weird. Oh yeah, they
about uh.

Speaker 6 (13:58):
The Satanist things about you know, and I know in
Revelations it talks a lot about the sixty sixty six
numbers and everything. If you ever look at your credit
cards and if you look any of the uh, the
barcodes or anything, they're always numbered in sixty six sixes.
We don't realize how much of the devil's already infiltrated

(14:19):
into our systems already, how the devil patrols the money,
you know, our money flow, anything that we do.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
It's weird that the devil's in it.

Speaker 6 (14:29):
And I got I got to be in the movie
industries when I was in California, and you can see
how much of California it's influenced by the devil. If
you go to any of those actors' houses or any
of those trophies every day they have like little monuments
and little altars kind of hidden on the side, you know,
and since you're woken to it, you know, when you

(14:52):
become a Christian, you're woken to it, and you see
it in their houses and you're going, this is why
you know our movie systems and California's so messed up.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
So there's a lot, so much control in that. I mean, the.

Speaker 6 (15:06):
The houses they're all built. You know, they've got money
and everything. But if you see whether life lifestyle is about,
it's about worshiping the double and you can't believe it
until you see it. They're showing, you know, a lot
of times over with TV stars, movie stars. They they
show that they're always got some kind of sign that
they're doing and in the gestures.

Speaker 1 (15:28):
Of their hands or when they're right when the.

Speaker 6 (15:33):
People are clapping in them, all of a sudden, they'll
make some kind of sign and.

Speaker 1 (15:36):
Then you know that it's they're in some kind of
cult or.

Speaker 5 (15:39):
Something, right, And that's uh. You know what you think
about l A and it's Los Angeles, the city of Angels.
Well you think about it as a city of falling angels, right,
So that's where they do most of their Hollywood production
in their Los Angeles.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
Yes, what's a podium. It's it's like a preacher preaching
for a podium. It's a it's a podium. You know,
there's a you know when you see advertising on TV,
it's all about imitation and and acting is the ultimate lie. Okay,
what's his name? Uh, I can't remember his name, but

(16:20):
he did a dude movie where he was like star
Star star Trek, you know, home improvement guy he played.
He played a captain who was an actor who they
went into outer space and the and these aliens had
had received all these What they did get was they

(16:42):
intercepted the reception of this TV show on the airwaves.
And and they believe that this was the exploits of
this fabulous captain. And they were relying on on on
reaching him and and having him fight their enemies for them,
right and and and they said I'm sorry, but and
they go, why would you lie to us? And it

(17:03):
was a very open ended thing about about the it's
that any imitation is a lie. Okay, it's a it's
a deception. And you know, and the by that we
talked earlier about you know, uh uh my my granddaughter.

(17:26):
How the sentence has said, you know, Tim and I.
I don't know if you were on yet or not,
but we're talking about my granddad daughter. And she's drawing
a picture with angry eyes, a monster with angry eyes,
and you don't know from the wording whether or not.
And she's got an angry face on her on her face,
so you don't know if it's meant she's drawing a

(17:47):
monster while she's got angry eyes, or whether she's drawing
a monster with angry eyes. Okay, And and so it
leaves it sparks the thought, okay, which one is it? It
makes you think and and and so imitation is designed
to do that. And when they started monitoring us worldwide

(18:08):
globally with cameras and everything else, I want to know
each and everything we do. Now that now the time
I'm giving us tick monitoring are in California. They're talking
about they passed the law allowing them to monitor our
are driving miles. Oh yeah, and that they're going to
taxes on the miles we drive yep. Okay, so right,

(18:31):
but you're not going to see them monitoring. This is
a backdoor monitoring, okay. And it says, but it also
affects something else, registration. When you go to renew your registration,
you have to they're going to ask you to see
whether or not you're honest, and that it's other words,
they're they're making criminals out of people, okay, and and
so it says here imitation, I have a book here

(18:54):
and this is this is a book that was I
read a lot. So when we started talking about this subject,
I want to bring something that has to do with it. Okay,
they said they want to they want to know. They
want to see everything we're doing and monitor everything we're
doing for advertising purposes and marketing. And if you have

(19:16):
nothing to hide, there's no reason to not be if
you're unless you're criminal, there's no reason not to go
with it. Well, this book was written in nineteen copyright
in nineteen fifty seven, and it's a book on the
fundamentals of advertising, and it says, it says that it

(19:37):
is significant. It is significant that imitation is taking place
all around us most of the time. Inasmuch as this
is the case, it is important that the advertiser or
the person's responsible for the preparation of the advertising copy
should be thoroughly familiar with the principle of the imitation

(19:58):
as a psychological principle. Yes, okay, it says. It goes
on today. Down on a bit says for best results,
some degree of subtoleness, in other words, deception somethingness is
necessary in order for imitation to have an effect on

(20:21):
the buying public. The principal associations is a sound psychologically
psychological sounds as sounds psychologically in advertising today, as it
has proven to be through the years. It offers an
opportunity for a chain reaction on the part of the
person viewing the particular advertisement which uses the association technique.

(20:45):
The salesman and the advertisers should be familiar with the
principles of the association of ideas. And it goes, according
to this principle, the creation of an idea in the
mind ten to produce a relate other related ideas. Practically,
all thinking is a possess of a possess of association.

(21:12):
So when you see no kings marches, you know, when
you when you see the all the stuff going on
like holding Congress hostage, now these are all these are
all to send a message. These are all to create
an idea and and and people's thoughts and their minds,

(21:35):
and they're they're done. It said that Schumer has been
an at is an expert in the old ways of
controlling people's minds, okay, and sending out messages. And they
use the media to do it. Okay. Well, the same
thing for Pelosi, and that nine to eleven was nine
eleven not uh. January sixth was orchestrated to create uh

(22:00):
a statement, to create a situation too. And and so
we have everybody is an emotional basket case.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
Now yeah, okay, yeah, I mean, and so every.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Twenty but everybody's full of failings. Now they don't they don't,
they don't they don't do by rational though anymore. It's
feelings and that that is what advertising and marketing is about.
So when they say they're going to use the cameras
and all they together marketing and advertising, you have to
think about the It says. Subtimous is necessary, in other words,

(22:39):
for them to control the minds of the populace, for
them to to deceive the entire globe. As it says
in the last pace, the actual it.

Speaker 5 (22:52):
Is, Jack, you're chopping up. I think I think Saint
don't want you to talk right now?

Speaker 1 (23:00):
That or not sipelosi and got you going, got your blind.

Speaker 5 (23:04):
Yeah, you sound like you're underwater and not choppy, like.

Speaker 1 (23:10):
They're pretty crazy.

Speaker 6 (23:11):
Okay, mine is coming clear and through no, no.

Speaker 5 (23:15):
Probably you're clear because you're not saying anything right now.

Speaker 8 (23:21):
Well let's Jack starts as like, okay, so let's let's
let me Bible here, because you know Tim knows me
if you've ever listened to your podcasts, I'm into the Bible, okay.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
And so the message that God is sending has been
very clear through the blood of Jesus Christ, and it's
depicted in Revelations four, and it says it says, after
this I looked, and there before me was a door,

(23:57):
and the door standing open in heaven. It's standing open
for those that will pass to pass through. Right you
still you can freely enter, is what it's saying. It's there,
it's available to you. Please step through. Okay, But what
the but what the Antichrist is teaching everybody is is

(24:20):
in Genesis where it says that that the garden that
they were kicked out of the garden of Eden, and
a cariban in Genesis three, verse twenty four, and a
cheruban with a flaming sword flashing back and forth to
guard the way to the Tree of life. In other words,
they're still preaching this message that everything is blocked and

(24:44):
there's no access to God. There's no way to get
to God. That Jesus is that the whole concept of
Christ is alive. It's a deception. It's it's it's not true,
it's it's it's men. And and this is the message
that they're teaching, that Heaven has closed off to you.

Speaker 6 (25:03):
You can't get that there's no more rooms, that there's
all all the rooms are full, right, And you hear
that all the time from other religions, that I don't
want to mention relationships other relations relations because I'm not
anti I should be, but I tried not to, you know,
try to let them. I know, you're supposed to teach
truth and and but then you get into big old

(25:26):
arguing and then you start losing followers because you know.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
Well, I'm not worried about followers. I uset everybody. My
job is is to offend everybody about Yeah, I'll offend everybody.
I don't care. It's all God's It's in the glory
of God. So you know, if I'm a Jehovah's witness
that I'm preaching one hundred and forty four thousand have
already made it DA and heavens, then Heaven's closed. Right,

(25:52):
So now I have to go into the Word and
who yeah, I love this. I have to go into
word and I have to talk talk about Revelation seven seven.
Are you ready for this? Guy? Is Revelation seven I
SAT talks about one hundred and forty four thousand that

(26:14):
were sealed. Okay, Now, the crazy thing is Autova's witnesses
don't understand is their religion is greater than Hunt. Their
influence on the planet today is more than one hundred
and forty four thousand, But these one hundred and forty
four thousand comes from these tribes and has all the tribes.
So they've already been taken. Okay, so that that is gone.

(26:34):
But then you jump over and you go further into
chapter seven, and it says that before me were these
in white robes, and it says they came out of
the tribulation, and they were vast they were whereas let
me pull up here real quick, and the number trial, yeah,
seven thirteen. Then one of the elders asked me these

(26:58):
in white robes, who are they and where did they
come from? And I answered, sir, you know, and he said,
these are the are they who have come out of
the great tribulation. They have washed their robes and made
them white in the blood of the lamp. Therefore they
are before the throne of God and serve him day

(27:19):
and night in his temple. And he who sits on
the throne will spread his tent over them. And so
if you stop reading the Bible, if you stop chapter seven,

(27:40):
verse eight, if you stop there, then you're going to
believe that that's all there is. If you continue reading
from verse nine on you're going to find out that
there's a few more groups of people that God is
going to be saving, okay, and and that there's this

(28:02):
multitude is a vast number, much greater than one hundred
and forty four thousand. Okay. But you but in order
to believe what they believe, you have to stop reading.
Yeah that do you?

Speaker 6 (28:15):
You stop revelations right after that, you don't, don't don't
add it on your own bible.

Speaker 1 (28:20):
That's right, Yeah, it's right.

Speaker 6 (28:22):
A lot of bibles out there, they are just specific
to their religions, you know, well.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
Like yeah, like you don't ever hear anything about it. Now.
Is the Bible that Obrah Winfrey had created, the feminine Bible.
It takes out all all expressions of masculinity throughout the Bible, okay,
and even tops that God is a woman. Yeah I've

(28:51):
seen that too.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
Oh yeah, Oprah.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
You know, uh, well, so they're trying to say, because
you know how an angel doesn't have is that met
or as they're saying that God does not male or
female and doing you're wrong. It tells you that he's
the man, and he tells you. It tells you in
the beginning in Genesis.

Speaker 1 (29:08):
He's a man. Well, not only that, but it tells
you the angels are males throughout the entire Bible. And
you can research as folks, listen, listen, research this for yourself.
Please get into the Word and rely on the Holy Spirit,
and you will see something that that very few people see,
and that is that every angel mentioned in the Bible

(29:32):
has two identities. One is one is they all have
a job. They all work. There's none of them that
are idle. God does not want us to be idle.
No one in heaven is idle, okay. And one is
that they all have a job to do a mission.
The second one is that they're every angel mentioned in
the Bible that is identified as human, because there's several

(29:56):
of that aren't human. That they're all men. Okay. Women
were not created until Eve. And so people I joke,
and I said this many times with tim is that yes,
Heaven is going to be different, and and people go,
what do you mean, I go, Well, for the when

(30:17):
we get to heaven, the first thing that we're going
to notice is the difference is that women are there
there so so no, but every every angel in the
Bible there's by the way, there's no babies depicted in
the Bible that are angels, so you know that that's

(30:38):
a or something. There was the only baby that has
anything to do with heaven with Jesus Christ. Right, Okay,
there's no there's no no cherry bombs. Then there's well
there's chermans, but they're different than what they're they're explained
as orbs with a with a and the chairman can

(31:01):
also be You see him on the top of the
with the wings, on the top of the Ark of
the Covenant, and that's an angel bending over, bounding to God.
It looks like a male and it has a sword. Well,
there's other translations that say it was an orb, that
they were orbs, not men. Okay, But so what I'm

(31:22):
saying is you got to let on hospur. But we
don't want to miss the message here that salvation only
comes to Jesus Christ. And no matter how evil the
world is, that you came from all of us. Not
one of us seem free except for Jesus Christ. And
so therefore he's in the business of fixing the broken.

(31:44):
So no matter how broke you are, no matter how
far down the limb you win, I don't even care
if you, as you said, there's there there until the
end times when you accept the mark of the Beast,
And that's where I was going to go. You you
had no matter what Satan tells you, because if you've
been in the world of Satanism, you believe you can't

(32:08):
go back because they tell you you can't go back.
You know you're staying already, you already took the mark
of the Beast. Well, there's a point of truth in that.
There isn't. What the point of truth is is what
the Bible says, and what the mark of the Beast is,
and what's and and you can be standing in the
midst of hell and still be and still be brought

(32:31):
out by Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ when he passed, when
he died, it says he ascended into hell, and he
preached in hell to those that had no option of salvation.
And when they were saved in hell, folks in hell,
you want to talk the Halloween in Hell, they were saved,

(32:55):
and it says that they rose with him when he
rose out of hell, and they show themselves to people.
You want to know where the image your ghosts comes from.
That Satan is now just you know, using demons to
present themselves as ghosts and aboritions. This was the identification
of them. These people showed themselves. So when you go

(33:16):
and you get your palm read or your or your
or you're reading tari reading, or you have a medium
that says she can talk, they can talk to the dead,
and that your your cousin Joe is trying to talk
to you, that's a demon. Okay, Because here's the deal.
When these people showed themselves, they showed themselves to their relatives,
to people that knew them. Yes, that would recognize them,

(33:40):
and and and it said, and there's even a Bible
versus that alludes to it. Later, even if they went,
even if they rose from the dead and shot and
you were shown to them, they you were shown them,
they came to you, you would not believe them. Yes, okay,
this is this is a representation of them. But when
I when I'm talking to people today that are witches

(34:02):
or think they're white, do you think there's a difference
between white witch and black black witch. The Bible says
they're the same, the same. But the lives of Satan
will tell you, oh no, this is a good one.
But there are people out there that think that they're
that they're meetings like Daniel and others in the Bible,
oracles that they that they read for God, they read

(34:22):
for good. And and I want to tell you that
this is another one that Satan has has captured and
is and is running that realm because we don't need
them with Christ. Okay, And only a selfish person would
is work on someone only not that not godly trusting
God for their future, past, present, in future. Only somebody

(34:44):
that's not with God is worried about talking to a
dead relative, is worried about talking what their future holds.
Because if God's with you and you are under his protection,
then you can walk through the day and know that
God has it in your control and worry about your future. Okay,
Now let me let me go with the mark of
the beast here and and but more than that, let

(35:07):
me show you something awesome. And that is in Revelations
chapter nine. It says that that can I show you
before we get into quick. So in my old days,
when I was still doing.

Speaker 6 (35:24):
Drugs and alcohol, and and I had this thing that
I that I thought I would see spirits, and I
thought that I had it was I had that I
was a medium and all this other stuff and then.

Speaker 1 (35:35):
Oh you were. And as much as that, you know,
it got revealed.

Speaker 6 (35:40):
To me because I would have this, you know, I
asked God to remove that from me because I used
to see stuff like that and it was really, really
weird that sometimes I wouldn't be using drugs. But as
soon as I asked God to remove that that from me,
he took it away from me.

Speaker 1 (35:58):
Because I thought, what's going crazy?

Speaker 6 (36:00):
Because I would have, you know, visions all over me
and I would see like spirits all around me. And
then I would go into that whole thing that you
can read all our auras or whatever and feel uh
So even I try to study study buddh Buddhism, you
know where you try to get your vision through your
through one.

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Eye, yeah, the third eye. I did all this crazy, crazy.

Speaker 6 (36:28):
Stuff trying to find God and I tried to try
to find Jesus. And until I got really into my
Bible and became a true Christian, things happened. Is like
I had to remove all that stuff from my life.
And people don't realize that, you know, you invite all that,
you invite all that evil into your body, into your

(36:49):
into your psychic into all that you are the one
inviting it. And you got to learn, you know how
to ask God and say, God, remove these from you,
remove all these spirits from me.

Speaker 1 (37:01):
On that note, I got to say something too. You know,
I'm not against using marijuana. I smoked weed, and I
never had any issues with as far as I knew.
I never got many auto recks. I didn't get a
drunk driving like I was when I got drunk driving
when I was drinking alcohol. But I never got into
the violent trouble with that I did with alcohol. I

(37:22):
was really a mellow stoner okay. And as a mellow stoner,
and so I didn't have an issue with cocaine or
marijuana because I never got into in the trouble with them, okay,
and and but I was in trouble with them. And
the trouble that I was in that God showed me
I was in was I was allowing an alteration of

(37:45):
the way that I see the planet, the world around me.
And when I when you when you allow yourself. You know,
the Native Americans, they used to do paote to go
into the spiritual world right and then go into the
spirit realm Okay, it's it's depicted on young young Guns
or something like that where they eat a little paoti

(38:07):
and their sin hallucinations and into the spirit world. Well,
here's the deal. You can a lot of the Native
Americans are guided by the spirit of the wolf or
the spirit of the bear or the eagle.

Speaker 7 (38:21):
Right.

Speaker 6 (38:21):
Well, they're all the animal spirits, animal animal spirits, right
and and and uh so.

Speaker 1 (38:31):
When you when you, when you allow your opening. What
drugs do is that alter your mind? It allows allowed
It allows them to enter your brain and your soul,
your spirit, your your inner being. Allows you them to
enter much easier. It's like a lubrication, okay, allowing a bolt,

(38:54):
a tight bolt to come loose it. It allows it
more easily to enter.

Speaker 7 (39:00):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (39:01):
And it's depicted in the movie Fallen where where they
just shake hands and the spirit jumps from one person
to the other. Okay. And they don't want to be
seen because they do more work in the shadows, folks.
They don't want you to know they're there all the
time because they do more work in the shadows. They

(39:22):
do better. You. There's a there. When I was a
spiritual advisor for inmates, serial killers and rapists, and serial
rapists and child molesters. At Cantboy Men's Colony, there was
a term called the sixty second rule and that they
all did a lot of them used. And yeah, they

(39:43):
weren't the best guys. They you know, they were criminals
and stuff, a lot of them. But some of them
were just average Joe's that just went. Some people say, wow,
this tolk got a character, okay, And they talk about
sixty seconds when they saw themselves doing something. But they
and they witnessed it, but they couldn't stop themselves. They

(40:04):
had no power to stop themselves. Yes, and they were
and and I and I have to tell them that
the reason being is because they were under the control
of a demon that was allowing them to watch, allowing
them to hear, but not giving them any power to
stop themselves. And and even even Rex krebs Uh, serial

(40:26):
killer that that I was brought into contact with through
God said, he said in the courtroom, he said, put
me away, he said, and don't let me out because
I'm a monster. I can't. I can't. I can see
what I'm doing, and I'm screaming in my head that
I want to stop. I can't stop myself. Okay, and

(40:49):
because once they take over, they have control. Have you
ever I tell people, have you ever been so drunk
or been partying so much that you woke up in
your bed the next morning and you don't remember how
you got there. I got too many stories like that
right well. And and some people say there's even people

(41:12):
that have been brainworkhed that said they drive better under
the influence of drugs or marijuana than they do without it.

Speaker 6 (41:22):
I have a guy that I sponsor right now, and
he he he worked in the hospitals as help with
the heart patients and put cat you know, put the
cat cats in and everything. And he said he did
that better drunk than he was when he was solder.
He said his hands would shake too much if he

(41:43):
couldn't do it. But me, and I'll tell you my
story about that is like the day that I the
day that I quit, which is a September fourteenth of radiate.
The day that's the day I quit. We ended up,
me and my brother ended up going to a con
trade in San Diego. We started doing drugs and hanging

(42:04):
out the party before the you know, before the concert,
and drinking you know, as many drinks as we could
we go to the concert. We're still drinking at the concert,
you know, and people passing drugs all over the concert.
We go to the after party, still drinking, still doing drugs,
just totally go black, you know, black out. Uh somehow

(42:27):
I go from the concert blacked out. I ended up
in Campbell, California, with no money, no gas, no nothing
in Campbell, California. But I woke up right before the
offernt to this gas station in Campbell, California. I black
out again. We get to my dad's house. We have

(42:48):
a full tinke of gas, we have money in our pockets,
and we don't know where anything came from.

Speaker 1 (42:54):
And that was all.

Speaker 6 (42:56):
That was my last day of doing drugs and alcohol
was on that blackout.

Speaker 1 (43:01):
And I've heard this story before, and I've heard this
story before. I thank you for sharing it, because people,
when you see these young men going into these stores
and they're walking out with cases of beer, just walking out.
They go in, they grab a case of beer and
they just walk right out, or they or they go
in and they grab a case of beer. They women too,

(43:25):
and they and not singing out men only, and they
throw down on the cashier and they say, give me
all your money and they fill their tank up of
gas like it's they're just like they're just shopping. Okay,
this is just like normal. Okay, it's not an issue.
This is what we did. This is what I did.
I literally would walk into I was once charged with

(43:46):
sixty five armed robberies. Yeah. And we would literally go
to the store, walk in, get whatever we wanted, mic
awave a hot dog, brito, walk up, get three or
four packs cigarettes, rob the guy, go out and fill
the tank up and drive off. And and very very

(44:08):
and we and and what's really sad is that we
were under the protection of Satan and that he for
the longest time and the and and we would never
get busted. I tell people, we did a thousand times
more things bad than we ever got busted for. Okay,
and and and even when we got busted, some of

(44:30):
the police were more corrupted than we were. Okay, and
and the and the and the and the. At one
point in the Central Valley when I was in high school,
forty eight judges throughout the entire Central Valley we were
charged were through it indicted with being the funders of
the marijuana coming in from Mexico. Okay, and guess what.

(44:55):
We never heard hi in your hair? Anything happened to him? Yeah,
I know that.

Speaker 6 (44:59):
You know when I you know, when I used to
do a lot of programming A and n A, you
would hear doctors, lawyers, everything change all. Well, all I
wanted to do was party that night, and they end
up in prison because it killed somebody. Yes, yes, and
wanted to party.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
That's right. And so guys, I want to tell you
that there is coming back. There is a way back
that just like that that star, you can say glimmer
in the darkest darkness, that there's a glimmer of light.
Keep looking for light. As you said searching, you were searching,
keep searching. The Bible says if you those that is

(45:39):
all that search for me will find me. Okay, and
so okay. So, so here's the message today, guys. In
Revelations nine, it says, Yeah, Revelations nine, it says and
verse verse Well, it's about the the the angels sounded

(46:01):
his trumpet and I saw a star that remember talking
about stars, a star that had fallen from the sky
to the earth. Now, this tells you something right here,
this identification of a star. Okay, this is going to
tell you a little bit about angels and spirits and stuff.

(46:21):
I saw a star that had fallen from the sky
to the earth. The star was given the key to
the shaft of the abyss. Yes it was human, or
it was in the capability of turning a key, yes, okay.
When he opened the abyss, smoke rose from it, like

(46:43):
the smoke from a gigantic furnace the sun. This is
where some people get the idea that not another Bible versus,
But this is proof that the other Bible verses are
true about fire and brimstone. Okay. And it says and
out of the smoke locusts came down upon the earth
and were given power like the scorpions of the earth.

(47:06):
They were told not to harm the grass of the earth,
which is what Uh, that's what that's what locusts do, right,
They eat the grass, they eat the plants. Right. They
were told not to do what they normally do in
their in their in their what it calls you know,

(47:28):
scorpions stings. Uh, you know we have we we don't.
We operate in free will. They operate on fear, not fear,
no instinct instinct they are. Their instinct is to eat
the plants, okay, And so this is count to their instinct.
So this is there, this is this is evil, that

(47:52):
is being its instinct is being subverted and altered by God.
And it says they were told not to harm the
grass or any plant of the tree, but only those
people who did not have the seal of God on
their foreheads. They were not given the power. They were
not given the power to kill them, but only to

(48:15):
torture them for five months. And the agony they suffered
was like that of the sting of scorpions when it
strikes a man during those days, and now we've quote this,
when don't him during those days, men will seek death
but will not find it. They will long to die
and death will elude them. And and so what I

(48:36):
want you to look here, folks, is that we that
mankind that does not accept God, it's tor is tormented
to accept him. To wake you up, staying, it's like,
how do you say it, disciplining. They don't have the
right to kill you, but they got the right to
spank you. Okay, you're you know, and people put down

(48:59):
parents spanking their children. But look, we have a whole generations,
two generations of kids now that we're never spanked, and
look what we got. Okay. Sometimes sometimes God has to
spank you to wake you up. Okay, look at how
many men in the Bible. What do you do? He allowed,
He created Jonah. He created a great storm, and the

(49:24):
people were afraid they're going to be killed. And Jonah said,
it's me. I did this. Okay, throw me overboard. And
then when he threw him overboard, God had him swallowed
by a fish. Could you imagine. God probably didn't tell
him I'm send a fish to swallow you and take you.
Do I need you? He just had sent a fish
as swallowing. So I imagine when Jonah was in the
belly of that fish, he felt like, oh my life

(49:45):
is over. Blah blah blah blah blah. I turned from God.
Everything like that. So in his darkest moment, what did
God do? He did what he does to all Christians.
He spit him out on the mission that he was
supposed to take. Okay, got him to stop running, that's right,
got him to stop running. Had to wake him up. Okay.

(50:06):
So if you're a Christian, you're listening this right now.
Are you on mission? Are you doing the work? Remember
the Remember the angels are twofold. One is their men.
The second one is they all have a job. God
doesn't save people not to work the laurels. Okay, and

(50:26):
that says that here. But here's the good news, guys, awesome,
awesome news. My brother that's on the podcast today. Was
he overcame. Okay, he overcame. And the Bible talks about
two things in this Let me pull up right here.

(50:49):
It says, and to him that overcomes, Yes, I will
sit he will sit on the throne with me in heaven.
So that's pretty profound, dude.

Speaker 6 (51:03):
Okay, to tell you a little bit about that story,
how I all overcame and she was really it was
really the first time that I.

Speaker 1 (51:13):
Came into a church.

Speaker 6 (51:16):
It was back in eighty eight when I could doing drugs,
and I'll call I got invited by this church.

Speaker 1 (51:24):
It was a Baptist church.

Speaker 6 (51:25):
In Campbell, California, and these old ladies would invite us
over and we would do you know, we would cook
meals for them, we would do a breakfast for them
every Sunday and then we would have church with them
and with that church, and they invited me.

Speaker 1 (51:41):
And said that do you want to get baptized.

Speaker 6 (51:43):
It was it was scary for me to even walk,
you know, in the beginning, it was hard to even
walk into that church. I shook like a like a
leaf and thinking, you know, this building is gonna collapse,
It's gonna fall on me. And when I saw these
all these old people, you know, wanted to give me
hugs and said, you know, welcome, you know, our home,
I felt like I had come home, you know it.

(52:04):
It was weird how going from you know, being strictly
Catholic to being baptized in the Baptist Church. To me,
it was just like the greatest love I could feel
when that happened. And from there on I tried to stay,
you know, on the path of being a Christian. But
it seems like as soon as I quit doing drugs,

(52:25):
the devil tempted me with something else.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
He started tempting me with women and money.

Speaker 6 (52:29):
And I didn't do drugs for thirty seven years, but
I got stuck on women until I was till about
ten years ago, when I you know, thirteen years ago,
because I got.

Speaker 1 (52:39):
Married thirteen years ago.

Speaker 6 (52:41):
It seems I couldn't stop sleeping around with women until
I really really turned my life around and let God
take over.

Speaker 1 (52:49):
It seems like the devil would pull me back.

Speaker 6 (52:52):
I you know, when I went through that whole thing
about the blood bath, I was I was already saved,
and the devil had pulled me back again. He was
very you know, you guys talk about this deceiving, tricky
and and and you think you know you're doing something
really innocently and then realize you know, you're in the
whole graphs, the whole uh grasp of the devil again.

(53:16):
The devil just knows how to tricky and to following
him again and without even knowing, Yes he does, Yes
he does. Jesus is stronger than that.

Speaker 5 (53:27):
He is.

Speaker 1 (53:29):
He's think about this, folks. You have a little lifetime.
We have a little lifetime. We're born, we live a
few years on this planet, and then we go then
we either go to heaven or we go to hell.
And and but but Satan and them have been watching
mankind since the fall, since before the fall. They were there, Okay,

(53:55):
and they've they've got history, they've got memory. It doesn't
men have a different gift than than spiritual beings. Okay,
we don't. We don't have the ability to remember every
little thing, but they remember every little thing, and they
don't have the gift of forgetfulness. I think the gift

(54:17):
of forgetfulness is awesome, because how can you forgive if
you can't forget? Okay, And and they kind of go
hand in hand. Here's here's a statement for your brother
and Revelation three twenty one. It says, to him who
overcomes overcomes, I will give the right to sit with

(54:38):
me on my throne, just as I have overcome and
sat down with my father on his throne. He who
has an hear, let him hear what the spirit says
to the churches. Amen. Okay, And by the way, Adam
was given e I have a wife that she's a
pain in the rear, and wife and she's a pain

(55:01):
in the rear. But they're exactly why I did not
say that. Okay, Okay, I have a great wife. I've
been married forty one years due I love my wife
beyond measure. But she I call my governor. She's the
devil's advocate. All, No, you can't do that. Understand that, right,

(55:23):
because because dude, I'm telling you, God gave Adam even helpmate,
So they're not really a pain in the rear. They're
just helped me. And and and guess what, God Adam
named all the creatures. He looked around, and he was lonely,
and he said, he said, Lord, he said, there's there's

(55:45):
no one for me. Yea. This one has a mate,
that one has a mate, this one has a mate.
There's no one, no one for me. Yeah, And I'm
lonely and and and and loneliness will drive you into
the Satan. Use loneliness to drive you into the arms.
Look at me. Women are sleeping with men that they
don't really even know. They're just they just are so

(56:07):
hungry to be accepted, and they fall into the wrong arms. Okay,
and they end up pregnant and all kinds of thay
uh and and so and men that are doing the
same thing they end up due to loneliness. They end
up accepting the arms that will receive them. Okay, and
uh and and uh and it doesn't matter if they're
perverted arms.

Speaker 7 (56:28):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (56:29):
So God made Eve as the answer to the loneliness
man has.

Speaker 6 (56:38):
Okay, they they call their women, Yeah, train whoa hold
your horses?

Speaker 1 (56:45):
Women? Whoa? Whoa?

Speaker 5 (56:48):
Man whoa.

Speaker 1 (56:50):
But at the same time, it says that we're to
be well. Yo, okay, my wife was an answer to
my prayer.

Speaker 7 (56:57):
Yes, I got.

Speaker 6 (56:59):
This is my third marriage and the first. You guys
wouldn't believe that the first marriage.

Speaker 1 (57:04):
That I had was with an atheist.

Speaker 6 (57:08):
I mean she wasn't she was an atheist, but the
person married us was an atheist.

Speaker 7 (57:14):
We didn't know that.

Speaker 1 (57:14):
She said that he was an atheist, and uh, somehow
he never filed papers.

Speaker 6 (57:21):
So we were married for about a year and a
half and found out later on that I didn't even
have to contest a divorce or anything, just said I
was married under the eyes of God, which should have made,
you know, a great difference for me. But but you know,
being that it was done by an atheist and he
never filed the paper, so we never actually got married.

(57:45):
In my second marriage, there was my wife.

Speaker 1 (57:51):
She know she wanted to end the marriage, and the
end of the marriage, she.

Speaker 7 (57:54):
Moved out and ended up with another woman and not
my wife.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
Right.

Speaker 6 (58:00):
My third wife has been my best wife so far,
a newer since she was fifteen years old, and she
was my best friend sister, and it's been the best
wife I ever had.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
Yeah, I sure, okay, For some reason, the Holy Spirit
has me in Revelations today, right, and and in the
term of overcome okay, because what we're talking about here
today is overcoming evil okay, overcoming okay, going beyond, not

(58:42):
not settling for the evil atmosphere that you're in, okay,
and overcoming it okay. And Chapter three of Revelations, verse
four says yet you It says, yet, yet you have
a few people in startists who have not soiled their clothes.
They will walk with me. So there's some that haven't

(59:04):
commit said that they will walk with me dressed in white,
for they are worthy. He in verse five, he who
overcomes will like them be dressed in white. You know,
here's what I want to tell the people who are
dealing with witchcraft and Satanism and vampor vamporism and things

(59:29):
like that. And it says I will never You can
read it for yourself. Folks, get get a Bible out.
I will never second half of verse five, I will
never blot out his name from the Book of Life. Yes, okay.
So you always hear Christians say he wrote my name

(59:50):
in the Book of Life. I know my name is
written in the Book of Life. Well, your name is
written in the Book of Life. It always has been.
But here's the deal. It's not whether it's written there,
it's already there, yes, Whether it's whether it will be
blotted out, whether you will not choose Jesus Christ as

(01:00:12):
your savior, you will continue on your path, and he
will blot your name out.

Speaker 7 (01:00:18):
Yeah, okay, That's what I was worried at when.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
I first got saved because of the stuff that.

Speaker 6 (01:00:24):
I had done with you know, with all the wickedness
that I did. Is that's He's gonna take my name
out because I use his name in Bain and you
know the stuff that I've done to you know, to
be you know, given my soul to the devil am
I know, not being able to come back and be
a Christian again.

Speaker 1 (01:00:45):
I think that was the lie about the whole thing.

Speaker 6 (01:00:47):
I was able to overcome that and come back to
God and He let me get.

Speaker 1 (01:00:51):
It, even made me a Now I've been a minister
for more than.

Speaker 6 (01:00:57):
Ten years, no, nine years, I've been a minister, and
then now I'm actually a year ago I became a
pastor also.

Speaker 7 (01:01:06):
And you know they say, I know in some Bibles
that I.

Speaker 6 (01:01:09):
Cannot become a pastor because I've been married three times,
and and that you know, that would stop me from
being a pastor. But some denominations you can actually be
a pastor.

Speaker 7 (01:01:22):
That you know.

Speaker 1 (01:01:23):
I know that that has to do with legalization. Yeah, legalization. Okay,
there's a description in the Bible of and I believe
it's Thomas of what a pastor should be, what a
deacon should be, all these things and and those those
are under the best case scenarios. And but we're in
the last days, and in the last days, Jesus God

(01:01:46):
says for us to be as as as conning and
sneaky as wolves, but as innocent as doves. I think
that I can't remember the exact wording of the verse.
I use it all the time, but I can't remember
the according But all it tells me is we're supposed
to be sneaky as serpents. Guys, we're supposed to be
in getting in. And that's what let's get Jack does.

(01:02:07):
We're sneaky as serpents. We smuggle the word in the
disguised and conspiracy theorists and AI and everything else. Okay,
we're not trying to look innocent. Okay, we are innocent.
We are innocent. It's one thing to look like a Christian.
Another one is to be a live at Christian life. Okay,
to be a Christian. Okay, if you're worse than the

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blood of the Lamb, and you know it, and you're
confident in that, you have no fear of tomorrow, you
have no worry about death. Okay, death is actually a gift.
And so to die well is the goal. Not to die,
not to not to die, Okay, to die well? Okay,
to die right. And it says that that those that

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came through the Great Tribulation overcame overcame the worries of
death and the worries of pain. Look, guys, if if
Jesus Christ was capable of suffering on the cross, arrested, tortured, beaten,
put a crown of thorns, blooded, if he was willing

(01:03:10):
to do all that for me and every disciple that
he had died a horrible death or exiled, then what
what can I do? Would it be? Am I better?
Should I not suffer as much? Okay? I mean, am

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I above all that? I wasn't? Say? Am I willing
to do that for him? And this right here in
the Bible verse we discovered it says, and I will
never blot out his name from the Book of Life,
but will acknowledge his name before my father. Proclaim isn't acknowledged, proclaim,

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I will proclaim his name before my father and his angels.
And he who has an ear, let him hear what
the spirit says to the church's brother, I rejoice in
your salvation. And because you overcame, your name's written in
the Lamb's Book of Life. You have nothing to fear

(01:04:13):
on this planet. And somebody said, well, aren't you afraid?
Why do you Why do you attend use your real
names and stuff? And I go because I have nothing
to fear because God is protecting us. And God can
take care of me and my family, my grandkids, and
my wife and everybody else much better than I ever could. Okay,

(01:04:33):
they're his anyway, they're more his than mine.

Speaker 5 (01:04:38):
So by the way, Jack, you're you're talking, then this
verse popped up on my phone all of a sudden.
It's the Ephesian six eleven. Put on the full armor
of God so that you can stand against the schemes
of the devil. I'm going exactly with what we're talking
about here.

Speaker 6 (01:04:57):
So they don't really I said, all of that is
you know, he that's what he is.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
He plays.

Speaker 7 (01:05:03):
If he tried, you know, if he tempted.

Speaker 1 (01:05:04):
Jesus, what you know, how can you think that you
cannot be sent right? Yeah, And and guys, he even
tried to send the words on on on with Jesus.
All this could be yours what was already his. Not
only got what he said, if you jump, you know,

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the angels will catch you, and all this other stuff.

Speaker 6 (01:05:28):
All of that he was trying to use scripture against
him and in reality, he was twisting the twisting the scripture.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
And that's what the devil does. He'll twist things.

Speaker 6 (01:05:37):
In your life, you know, you know, he'll put images
in your brain that say, oh this.

Speaker 1 (01:05:42):
Is okay, and this will be okay for today, but
nobody will catch you, so we'll forget that. Jesus sees
it all and and there twisting. You said something right now,
that was that I believe was embedded by the Holy
Spirit twisting the scriptures. Yeah, we have the Bible talks
about and that those that that come in they embed

(01:06:07):
themselves in the church. They had that they slither in
and they sneak in. Their names are written their names
are written long ago, and they they and they find
their way into the church and they corrupt it, and
they corrupt the word, and they corrupt gods, They corrupt
the parishioner, the people in the church.

Speaker 7 (01:06:31):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:06:32):
And it says that there's a place for them, and
they have it here blackest and it's a there's a place. Yeah,
there's a place for them, the blackest darkness, and and uh,
but there what's really crazy is it. I try and
tell people there's a place worse than Hell, and they go,

(01:06:54):
what I mean? I go, well, Hell, Hell is is
torment and torture and everything that you would physically afraid,
be afraid of, gnashing teeth and burning a fire. And
nobody wants to feel burned, right, And I said, but
but there is an end to it, after an eternity,
whatever that is to God. Because God is in control

(01:07:17):
of time. He made it, Okay, He's not under the
control of it. He controls it. So whatever he means
an eternity is He's going to take Hell after a
period of time and throw it in the lake a fire,
and the corruption, the evil from that will be no more.
But that's that. In here he says that they that

(01:07:38):
they will come in and they will. I'm trying to
find it here, guys. Maybe the Holy Spear is not
gonna let me find it day because he wants to
do it on another show, another episode. But anyway, it
says in here. It says that their their name was
was taken from the book a long time ago, and

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that and that and that, and that they immersed themselves
within you, and they corrupted, are corrupting from the inside,
and they're changing the Word of God. And they're preaching
that they know the truth. Yes, that means that they
accepted the truth. They know it. Okay, at one point
they accepted the truth. You know. There's a there's a

(01:08:21):
minister with Billy Grant, and he went all over for
years and preached with Billy Grant. Yes, and now he's
a professed atheist. Oh wow, okay. So and and.

Speaker 6 (01:08:36):
I'll tell you that I started with Billy Graham when
I was in in his uh.

Speaker 1 (01:08:42):
When he used to do the crusades and everything.

Speaker 6 (01:08:44):
And I went with him down to uh San Felipe,
Mexicali all the Mexican areas that they take the that
would take the harvest crusades, and him and I'd be
the one translating when we were gone to the finanches
and and and do all this.

Speaker 1 (01:09:03):
So I did the opposite.

Speaker 6 (01:09:04):
I you know, I was Satanist and got in touch
with Billy Graham, and Billy Graham helped me get more
understanding of it. And then I went into the other Horizon.
Horizon is the other church that I went through. And
then I went through the Rock Church in San Diego.
But although that was my transformation from being a Satanist too,

(01:09:26):
then turning my whole life.

Speaker 1 (01:09:28):
Around Amen and and and your path every day if
you're in the word, God's God's Holy Spirit is changing
your world, changing the way you think, changing the way
you see things, and giving you gifts that you don't
see and that people say, why do you know that?

(01:09:50):
How can you stand there and say that God is real?
And I go, because I'm a living I'm a living
being because God is real. Everything in my world is
because God is real. Everything I have, I think because
God is real. Yeah, when exists?

Speaker 7 (01:10:06):
When exists?

Speaker 6 (01:10:07):
If God wasn't real, because when Jesus came, you know,
and died on the Christ, the.

Speaker 7 (01:10:12):
World is supposed to have ended at that time.

Speaker 6 (01:10:14):
But he let the he let the world live after them.

Speaker 1 (01:10:19):
So it's a it's a it's amazing the the lies
that are in the that that are being taught. Yes, there,
and there, and and about. And I'm not talking about
you know, whether you believe in the rapture, you believe
in that, you're going to go through a tribute that.

(01:10:39):
I'm not talking about eschatology. I'm gonna talking about any
of those peripheral things. I'm talking about the blood of
Christ and the deity of Christ. And there's and there's
people that are teaching all that against Jesus, against of
his of his he couldn't have done with the Bible.

(01:11:01):
They take out the words it says all all, all
has been given to you. Yeah, they don't. They take
that part out. And and if you're not born again
by the blood of Jesus Christ and his and his
spilled blood and his dead, and you're not resurrected in

(01:11:21):
your spirit with him and the Holy Spirit comes and
dwells in you, if you do not have that. See,
I believe that I believe something profound that people give
me a hard time for. And I believe in the
in the in the miraculous, and the supernatural and and
and I believe that the Holy Spirit cleans me from
the inside. And so people look at them the outside

(01:11:44):
and see whatever they want, because the inside, that's that's
being cleaned, okay. And and and so the Holy Spirit
empowers us from the inside and say and people say, well,
how do you know you're saved? And I go because
the Holy Spirit when I when I passed, and they
asked me, They're not going to have to ask me

(01:12:07):
whether I'm worthy. The gates are open, and the Holy
Spirit within me is going to be my identification to
walk through those gates. You can't get the Holy Spirit
within you you haven't accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord
and savior.

Speaker 7 (01:12:21):
There you go to me.

Speaker 1 (01:12:24):
I have.

Speaker 6 (01:12:27):
Things that I and some people say the things that
I'm crazy that I tell them this, that Jesus, Jesus
will come with me to me in the middle of
the night while I'm sleeping, and and it might be
in my dreams, and you know, but he'll tell me
what my next.

Speaker 7 (01:12:41):
Thing to do.

Speaker 6 (01:12:42):
The whole reason I came from San Diego, you know,
from San Diego, went up to the Little Bano's and
then went to Mississippi is all because God has told
me that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Some people said, well, you're crazy. You noticed that. I
listened to what the Holy Spirit tells me.

Speaker 6 (01:12:56):
He tells me, this is your next journey, this is
your next route, this is what you're used to be doing.

Speaker 1 (01:13:01):
And right now I'm waiting for my next assignment. That's
what you know. I'm at right now, waiting for my
next assignment. And how can a true Christian deny that?
Because he really it's in line with the word. It
says that that when Mary was pregnant with Jesus, that
this that this the spirit of God came to them

(01:13:22):
and said flee now. Yes, it didn't say wake up tomorrow,
sell your house, sell your clothes, and earned some money,
save some money, and then and then take a trip. No,
it didn't say that said Herod is coming. Yes, flee
fleeing now. And what did Joseph do. He got his
entire family up and their entourage, and they left every time,

(01:13:46):
every time. That's right. And then and then during Christ's
message he was giving his messages, and during and and
the Roman soldiers were getting even after his resurrection, the
disciples they were ministering in a world that they were
being hunted. Yeah, and so there was the spirit of

(01:14:10):
God that was guiding them and saying, Okay, go here,
go across the ocean, flee to this land. Blah blah,
blah blah. It's throughout the Bible. Yes, And I think
that's what's happening too right now.

Speaker 6 (01:14:22):
You know what people going underground to the people in China.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
And all those and I you know all.

Speaker 6 (01:14:29):
These different countries where you can't talk about the Bible
or talk about Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:14:33):
It's what's happening there.

Speaker 6 (01:14:35):
They they hear the message on the radio, and that's
where they have to do, is God tells them, they'll
turn on the radio at this time and then you'll
hear what you need to hear.

Speaker 1 (01:14:49):
Well, not only that, but we're not we're The podcasting
arena has allowed God's ministers and international street men, and
social media has allowed us to expand globally and and
to be heard by people that are looking for a

(01:15:10):
certain message and say, I believe that I pray every
day that God will bring one to me or to
his his podcast. I'm not getting rich on his podcast.
Tim's not getting rich on his podcast. TV. We're not
TV evangelists, saying telling our group that we need a
new lyric. Yet you know we're not. We're not. We're

(01:15:32):
not living in mansions and stuff, because that's not what
the goal is. That God could take me today. And
I have lost nothing and gained everything. Okay, And and
and He will supply the needs just like he did
his disciples the twelve and the seventy two. He will
supply the needs as he did with Jesus feeding the

(01:15:55):
five thousand. He supplies the needs as we need them
for his services, and so so and so this is
his need. And so therefore if I ask him, Lord,
bring those people that you want to hear your message
to us. That's who's coming is the searchers.

Speaker 6 (01:16:18):
Oh yes, So I wanted to tell you one quick
thing before we go. So I have a little a
little church that I do on Sunday Sunday morning, that
is at night in the morning's at at a label
and Waynesboro, and it's at a creek they call a
Manor Creek. But every time I do any message that
I do there, there's somebody there said, oh I needed

(01:16:41):
to hear that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:42):
I needed to hear that. And God God.

Speaker 6 (01:16:45):
Gives me the message the night before and and I ask, God,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Are you sure you want me to do this message?

Speaker 6 (01:16:52):
And every time he assures me that you know that
person shows up and that person is there that needed
to hear it.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
That's great, you know I I I told Tim during
about the what a messenger is, okay, and a messenger
back in the day, you know the term do not
kill the messenger. Don't kill the messager. Okay. Well, you
saw in the three hundred, the movie three hundred, the
king would send a measure other and Leonid has told him.

(01:17:20):
He said, you bring the heads of dead kings. He
kicked before he kicked the messenger into the big abyss
type tunnel. He says, it's a die. He says, you
bring the heads of fallen kings before me to scare me,
to threaten me. But what you what you're talking about
is slavery and and and and uh, you know you're

(01:17:41):
talking about enslaving my people basically, and and he's and
he and then he kills the messenger. Well, back in
the day, messengers were sent by kings to offer all
kinds of stuff like peas, find out what people needed,
all kinds of things. But when the messenger went to
another king. Something had to happen. He had he had

(01:18:02):
to stand that the messier had to present not only
the message, but he had to present the message in
the fervor and the and the emotional content that God
that the king wanted the message delivered at So when
Jonah went before Nineveh, it's so profound because here's a

(01:18:24):
guy that gets spit on the shore by a fish.
He smells like fish, he's filthy, dirty, probably he's soaking wet,
and and he's thrown they spit out on the land
where these people, everyone there has the ability to kill
him and be justified. And what does he do? He says,
he demands to see the king, and and and and

(01:18:45):
this tell this shows the power of God, because how
many people who demand to see the king are actually
going to get an audience with the king and the
king king in this king in his throne room. Okay,
this doesn't happen. You have to go through all these
lower you know, bureaucrats for him to get to the king, right,
and and and and and everyone in this community in

(01:19:07):
this kingdom is it has the right to kill him.
This reminds me of Islam. Okay, everyone has the ability
and they and they would be able to brag and
get accolades for killing you because you represent Jesus. Okay.
And so he probably goes before this king and.

Speaker 9 (01:19:24):
Then he looks the king of the eye and he says,
God said this, if you don't bow down to me,
buddy and have all your people change their ways, God's
going to destroy you in seven days.

Speaker 6 (01:19:42):
Can you imagine that when he talked when he talked
to you, No, that was when we talked.

Speaker 1 (01:19:48):
To the never condect. No, yeah, I think it was
the Jonah. Jonah went before the they were they were Cannibals.
Even some people say, okay, the Annamites. And he just
studied all those tribes of Judah and all the tribes,

(01:20:13):
well we went before Ninevah and he told the king, now,
can you imagine this guy that looked like a homeless
zes covered in scumb and his hair has probably not
been done by a barber or nothing like that. Maybe
they did make him presentable to the king. I don't know.

Speaker 7 (01:20:33):
I wasn't.

Speaker 1 (01:20:34):
But here's a foreigner of the enemy and he's demanded
to see the king. And then he throws a message
on the king that says not not the King of Israel.
But the King, the Ultimate God, King of King, Lord
of Lords, is going to destroy you. Okay. So God

(01:20:56):
had to put the fear in that king. The Holy
Spirit had to. The Bible says that the Holy Spirit convicts,
not you, not I, not even not even the word.
It says God that the Holy Spirit can okay. And
and Jesus says, I didn't come to convict, but the

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save okay. And so here he is him and the
Holy Spirit is so involved in this that the man
is protected when he hits the shores, and and when
he gets out of doing it, and the and the
king throws everything down, and he says, everybody worship this,
and he he turns to God. It makes his whole
kingdom turn to God. Jonahs still not happy.

Speaker 10 (01:21:41):
He's mad.

Speaker 1 (01:21:42):
He says, I knew I didn't want to take the
message to him because I knew you were going to
forgive him. Okay. So how many people are are sitting
in church today and they don't want to take the
message to somebody because God will forget them? Oh yeah, okay.
So I've had people ask me, so you would forgive

(01:22:04):
a serial killer, you would forgive a child molester. Well, God,
this is this is up to God. It's not up
to me.

Speaker 6 (01:22:12):
You know, I'm not the judge jury. I'll keep telling
people that we're not the jury. And some people are
like jurious and prosecuting you and prosecutors and they don't't
even know if the person is even guilty or not,
but very prosecuting them.

Speaker 1 (01:22:25):
Yeah, and even if you knew they're guilty, I'm guilty.
I send against God. There's no one that hasn't. Okay.
And and God forgives me. God forgives me every single
day because I am a filthy sinner. My even my
good stuff. The Bible says, even all the goodness I
could ever do for him is like filthy rags. That's

(01:22:49):
the equivalent of it, thers. He tells us filthy. Okay.
So no matter what we do, the most we can
do is endeavor, endeavor to be like Christ. We can't
be like we can't beat Christ. We can't be sinned free,
but we can endeavor to be sent free because we
still have our human okay, we still have the the

(01:23:11):
blood of Adam. Okay, And so we're going to be sinners.
So God has created a path and opening away for
us to be purified and through the blood of Christ
and to become washed. Now I showed I told said
this in another podcast. But when it talks about being

(01:23:34):
these men, these men in white robes are those that
have been washed in the blood of Christ and that okay,
so they're in white robes, but it's been cleansed in
the blood of Christ. So that means that the blood
of Christ is still white. Yes, that that that that

(01:23:55):
the color of the blood isn't what matters. It's the
fact that had been cleansed and it washed them white
as snow. Okay, that's that's why. Can I take a
minute stop for a second. I gotta use the restaurant. Yeah, guys,
I gotta go anyway, So so anyway, yeah, so Tim,

(01:24:19):
you want to I'm so happy that our guest is
here today.

Speaker 5 (01:24:24):
And uh, I'm just joined Francis. If you can real quick,
just tell people how they could get a hold of you,
get hold of me, yeah, if they want you at
their church or something.

Speaker 7 (01:24:36):
The church that I go to.

Speaker 1 (01:24:38):
Uh right now.

Speaker 6 (01:24:39):
Sarah, where have you got this church in Laurel But
I live in Waynesboro. You can go to my email
or Facebook page for Francis, so you gotta can find
me there.

Speaker 1 (01:24:54):
And I'm pretty open about my book and everything about me.
I don't have a book, but I'm just saying means myself.

Speaker 5 (01:25:02):
Yeah, you're an open book. Yeah, I got you, But
I gotta.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
Just give me a second. I got to muse you
for a second. Well, Tim, I'm gonna go get out,
you go and close us up. Folks. It's been awesome,
hopefully the well. I don't have to hope. I know
that Jesus is that God's Holy Spirit is carrying this
message to where he needs it to go. And I

(01:25:29):
want to say thank you Tim for making this possible
today and doing the work to get a Halloween series
out there. And I know it's in Jesus' name that
we do this, and I appreciate all the efforts.

Speaker 11 (01:25:45):
Guys, if you're listening to the show, Tim is tiresly
faithful and he puts in tons and tons of ours
and while working a full time job.

Speaker 1 (01:25:57):
We are both by book. You could say, Jimmy, Tim's
a tribalcation. I think he's also leads the music in
his church. I mean, you go and Lord, I want
to say thank you in the name of I'll see

(01:26:18):
you guys later.

Speaker 5 (01:26:18):
All right, thank you, Jack, right bye bye Jack. All right, Francis,
I'm sorry. Why don't you go ahead and tell people
where they could get a hold of you and if
they want maybe interview you or have you at their
church or something maybe to speak.

Speaker 6 (01:26:35):
Oh yes, Uh, so you can find me on Facebook
at Francis Egoff.

Speaker 7 (01:26:42):
The other one if you guys want to do it.

Speaker 1 (01:26:44):
My email is f underscore egof at yahoo dot com. Uh.
The other one is my phone number. But I'll let
Tim to see if he wants to put my phone
number up or not. It all depends on you guys.
I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:27:03):
Yeah, we'll put We'll put your information on the in
the show notes if you guys want to check it
out and and listen to his uh testimony. So I'm
really glad that you went through it and God got
you out of it.

Speaker 7 (01:27:18):
Yes, man, he definitely did.

Speaker 6 (01:27:21):
He's got me in so many realms today that I
get to go to jails, I go to prison, I go.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
To uh even go today.

Speaker 7 (01:27:32):
Where and when it when you got to that point where.

Speaker 6 (01:27:37):
You know I was giving my giving my life to
the devil and I had lost myself It put me
to some places now that realized what's happening to their
homes and happening to them themselves, and how to get
rid of some of those bad spirits in their home.
And God's give me the ability to do that, to
go cleanse their homes and cleanse them too.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
And it's one of the greatest things that I get
to do now and.

Speaker 6 (01:28:04):
Then help other people get saved, get saved and show
them and then lead them, lead them to Jesus.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
I got guys that I help out through different programs.

Speaker 6 (01:28:12):
I go to restore the broken, celebrate recovery, and then
we do most excellent way.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
And I'm forgetting what the other one is. But those
are all groups that.

Speaker 6 (01:28:26):
You can actually find, you know, and go get help
if you have problems where drugs are all called.

Speaker 7 (01:28:30):
Those are the.

Speaker 6 (01:28:31):
Places that you can go and get spiritual and recovery
through spiritual leaders instead of having to go through.

Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
There's nothing wrong with a in n A, but there's
a lot of not close. You know, they don't talk
about God the way we do.

Speaker 5 (01:28:48):
So yeah, that's true, but you know, if you get
it in a good church of Bible believing church, then
that'll help them out a lot too.

Speaker 7 (01:28:57):
Yes, well.

Speaker 1 (01:29:00):
You also too.

Speaker 6 (01:29:01):
You know some of the churches are I had problems
where because I had tattoos and my friends had tattoos,
that some churches wouldn't let let us even come in
the door. And they didn't realize that we were actually
forgiven just as much as he.

Speaker 5 (01:29:15):
And that's something I always just shake my head while here,
stuff like that, because you know, as the church, we're
supposed to, oh, I let those people in. I mean,
that's who we're trying to go after, is the sick
and the people that need the and they need Jesus
the most, and yet and yeah, they get turned away
sometimes and that's really sad.

Speaker 6 (01:29:34):
So because now because churches now today went back to
being about rules and not about Jesus.

Speaker 5 (01:29:41):
Right right, not about the relationship with them. I mean
they used Jesus' name to get money, I suppose, but
that's about it, and it's really sad. Yes, as a business.
But well, guys, I want to thank Francis for being
on the show and we will just maybe we'll have

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it back on and brother to talk about more stuff,
you know, other topics.

Speaker 7 (01:30:06):
No problem.

Speaker 1 (01:30:06):
Anytime you need me, just text me or talk to
you know, call me whatever. I'm here.

Speaker 6 (01:30:12):
Like I said, I'm home most of the time now
because I'm disabled, but I still get around to all
my groups.

Speaker 5 (01:30:18):
Sounds good. All right, Well, everybody be in this world,
but out of this world, and we'll see you next
time on. Let's get jacked up.

Speaker 1 (01:30:26):
So along everybody, God bless everybody.

Speaker 10 (01:31:01):
Question us, don't just si? So know that's about so

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slightly where you go?

Speaker 12 (01:31:45):
I wants to shout. I think it's times I stack.

Speaker 10 (01:32:38):
I see.

Speaker 12 (01:32:40):
See s.

Speaker 13 (01:33:06):
Jus says, so.

Speaker 1 (01:33:46):
I see.

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