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Speaker 1 (00:38):
Happy Doubles Sunday. This is the Let's Go Doubles Podcast,
Season eight, Episode twenty nine, talking Devil's Hockey wants to
talk about. I'm your host, Sam Wou here with short
Sky from the highest point of New Jersey and Cross
(00:59):
Cotton to the Michael J. Fox Studios. It's Scotty oh
SERXEM Liquid Metal with NHL draft credentials out in Beautiful, LA.
Should have a live on Facebook Live, YouTube live, x
live and Twitch on the Let's Go Devil's Network. Welcome back, guys,
(01:23):
welcome back.
Speaker 2 (01:26):
Yeah, it's uh, we have something to talk about. It's uh,
it's kind of been a quiet, quiet place in Devil's Land,
but yeah, it's good to be back.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Always nice to see Sam Wu's face always.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Do you really mean that?
Speaker 3 (01:43):
No, no, but you know, for the show, I'll just
say that.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
I haven't spent my gift card yet.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Of course I mean it. Sam Wu, Grimace, good job.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
I saw.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I saw Sam Wu and his cousin in person last night.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Yep, my cousin Marty Wow.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Very impressive. Ye Marty Brodor not quite No, No, okay,
all right, well just just checking to make sure I
didn't know if you were, you know, family with royalty
or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
You know, his his cousin's a defenseman who likes to
mucket up occasional.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Okay, yeah, muck it up, look it up, look it up.
But yeah, no, I didn't have any draft credentials, but
I do know the A good friend of mine is
the VP of a you know live events there at
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the at l A Live so makes it nice. You
can kind of just sneak on in whenever you want
when something's happening at the old Microsoft Theater or Crypto.
So yeah, got to experience a little bit of the
draft yesterday, which was a lot of fun. It was cool,
like just being there and that was the first time
I've ever been to any draft whatsoever. But they did
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it up pretty good. I gotta say.
Speaker 2 (03:18):
They did the.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
Whole like La Kings when they have like their outdoor
fest and stuff like that. Uh, they had all like
the mini rinks set up for the kids to play
street hockey. You know, they had their big hockey wood sign.
I texted you guys, you know it was it was nice.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
They had a red carpet there.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Yeah, they had red carpet there on Friday for all
the first round and everything like that. Lots of solebs
coming by to do the picks and everything. So overall
it was a it was a good event, and uh yeah,
it was cool to just go there and kind of
check out, check out the big board and feel bad
for what's his name, Bill Daily? Who has to pronounce
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every one of those names, like right off the bat.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
That's a tough job, it is.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Well, yeah, it's a tough job.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Are you kidding me?
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Like that's crazy?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Do you know what they should do?
Speaker 3 (04:13):
He got a lot of them wrong too, by the way,
But you know, no, not knocking your bill or anything
like that, because lord knows, I would have slaughtered every
single one of those pronunciations as well, right off the bat.
But it was funny. If you saw any of the
NHL Network coverage, you know, they would announce the name,
and then the guys at the desk would actually announce,
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you know, say the name properly. Words. It was just
one after the other after the other, just like, well
that's actually this person, you know. So, But it was
a cool It was a cool event, and it was
a lot of fun, like getting down there and did
me a little little day drinking maybe maybe a little
too much on the Saturday afternoon for the early start
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draft nine am time. Yeah, so by four it's like,
whoa scout, he's a little tipsy now. So yeah, but overall,
really cool event down there, and glad that the Devils
are good. We were just talking before the show starts.
Everybody see everyone rolling into the old YouTube chat over there.
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Let us know what you think. Okay, Mike Rossi is uh, okay,
he's not happy. But I thought the Devils did pretty
damn good in this draft, considering, you know, the picks
that they had no first rounders. They got a ginormous goalie.
Of course, of course he hasn't made eleven saves on
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ten shots, but you know that's just that's a short
sky special right there from Sam Will stopped eleven shots.
Eleven saves on ten shots, That's what it was. Yeah,
but shorts guy, get ready because they you know, with
the new sea that passed as well, the e bug
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is now official for every team there, so you know
you can go ahead and try out and be the
old e Bug for the Devils.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
I I was up this morning doing uh, doing the
dry land training for it, so I'm preparing already I'll
be I'll be ready for tryouts when that comes along.
So uh and and I will give the exclusive interviews
to the Let's Go Devil's podcast obviously once I get
the job I'm trying.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
And then and then he'll get traded to Edmonton because
Lord knows that's all they need is a goaltender up there.
So yeah, I know, we'll see, we'll see Shorts guy
shipping out to the to the frozen tundra of Edmonton.
Speaker 2 (06:44):
What are they in?
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Are they in Alberta? Is Edmonton Alberta?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yes, Alberta, Alberta? Yes? Right?
Speaker 3 (06:49):
Yeah, okay, yeah, because you know Edmonds is gonna try
and trade for every goalie out there possible. So oh yeah,
Shorts guys signed by and two hours later he's been
traded to.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
The Edmonton Oilers. Listen, any team that wants to pay
me money to play goal I'll I'll put my house
up for rent and go move temporarily. Would you go
after the Rangers?
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Because I could do damage from the inside.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Sabage. I love it inside job yep, yep.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
I have to do that thing, Like who was it
was it the was it the Red Sox that did
that with New Yankee Stadium. When they were putting the
cement down, they put like a Red Sox jersey like
in the cement or something like that. So if they're
ever doing something at the at the Garden, then you
can put a Devil's jersey down in the Rangers.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Oh man, uh.
Speaker 3 (08:01):
But cool, we have move goa draft, you know, and yeah,
new CBA announced and everything, so that's uh, there's some
interesting little tidbits in there. Sorry, Golden Knights. Doesn't look
like you're gonna be able to circumvent the cap come
playoff time anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Let's not let's not forget the originators.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Oh the Tampa Bay Lightning. Tampa Bay Cap Circunvention Lightning. Yes, yeah, yeah,
so Swim will not see another Stanley Cup for a while.
You know, there's gonna be no more, no more cap circunvention,
poor Swim. But yeah, that's what the announced. It's gonna
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be a salary cap for the playoffs, right.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
For the playoffs. Yeah, because Vegas, you know, they were
they were gearing up for it already because Petranngelo is
gonna be he's out for the season. He's gonna be
out for the season. So you know, they were gonna
try and do the same damn thing that they be
knowing Mark Stone.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
So yeah, did they did they announce what it's going
to be. Is it going to be the same or
is it going to.
Speaker 3 (09:07):
Be got I gotta read the fine details on that.
I just saw, like the the bullet point one of
the rundown.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
Sorry if if I react in a moment, it's because
the US is about to The US is a penalty
kick away from moving on in the Gold Cup.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
I thought they were already moving on.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Now it's the quarterfinal, so this is they moved on
to this?
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Oh okay, cold here? Sorry, yeah, sure finish.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Only a power point only if it's a power point.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Okay, and it must be twelve point font times new Roman.
None of this, none of this current that's expand your
you know.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
All right? Yeah, I have to tell you there's a
comment on the YouTube live something. I guess there's a
new format. It's at least TEPA one hundred. The draft
on TV wasn't good.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I have to tell you, Wow, is this like everyone's email?
Speaker 1 (10:27):
No, it's like it's like it's like screen name, it's
like at that so it doesn't have like, you know,
like what it normally has.
Speaker 3 (10:35):
You know, like I didn't even notice it.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, so the production value of the I only saw
the first round was all the mistakes that ESPN was
making or some of the things that has happened on
our podcast when we do it American Whiskey. But it
was so bad. There was echo there. It was terrible
(11:00):
because they were doing I didn't see it. Yeah, Oh
it was terrible. It was like amateur hour, like all
the you know again, it's and I actually I think
I sit in a group text I should be I
should be running that production. But because it's all live remote,
it's it's all live remotes.
Speaker 2 (11:22):
Put a bit in next year.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Yeah, I mean, it was all live remotes, like what
we do. And it's just like and it's and and
this is like, you know, it's it's a shame because
some of these guys this is their dream moment and
the GM can't even they hear him on the other
end because it's decentralized now, so it's just like, you know, oh,
what do you think about blah blah blah, And the
GM's just sitting there like like doesn't even know that
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he's on live TV.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
I didn't see a lot of the first round, just
kind of read about it because I knew we didn't
have a pick, so I didn't watch.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
The first the way. It was terrible. It was it
was like garbage. It was like college kids could run
a better production than that.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
I mean, I was standing on the ESPN set yesterday,
but they weren't. They weren't there, or maybe they were.
I don't think I saw. I mean, the NHL network
was there yesterday broadcasting, but at least at least when
I got there about it there because I didn't get
there at the very very very beginning.
Speaker 1 (12:29):
Maybe watched the replay like it was just terrible. It's
like this, it's this guy's moment, and like there was
like failures everywhere. Like you hear an echo blah blah blah,
the fee drops. That's what happens when you decentralize, like
they I'm shocked at a company like ESPN couldn't get
it right.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
Yeah, but ESPN has tended to not really care much
about their hockey coverage. Their hockey coverage is seeming to
be low budget, kind of low budget. Yeah, little budget
is the best way to put it.
Speaker 1 (13:02):
Like TNT is a lot.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
They also just well. They also just moved like the
majority of their stuff out of LA Live, Like they're
not doing Sports Center from l A anymore. Like I
think the only thing that's going to be from LA
now is like NBA Live or something like that. So
they closed like major of their studio space in l
(13:26):
A Live. They're they're gone. It's they vacated like two
three weeks ago. Maybe that has something to do with it,
or maybe it's just.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
No, the board off was screwing up the entire time.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
Like does does ESPN do the NFL Draft too?
Speaker 1 (13:44):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Yes, so it should It should have been the same thing.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
It's a lot, Yeah, but they got a bigger budget
for you.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I'm just saying that if they're I know, there's a
bigger judge for the NFL Draft. But it's the same premise.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
No, they it's it's it's it's I'll have to explain
to you off air the way they were doing it.
The way they were doing it was No, it's actually
the way the NFL does it is different, even though
it's still decentralized, like the interviews that they were doing.
They were doing it interview. So basically the draft d
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gets picked and then he goes into a room and
then on the in the room there's a video of
the GM's like, for instance, the Islanders. Right, Schaeffer's talking
to the to the Islanders GM and they're talking back
and forth. You hear the audience in the background, so
you hear an echo coming from Long Island from that
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you know, from that location, and then you hear the
echo going out to the audience. So there's like echos
slap back sound all over the place, and the board
off like should be muting on one side so one
side could talk and then when the other side talks,
then put it up.
Speaker 2 (15:11):
It's just it's just to me, it seems like they've
done something similar with the NFL. They should at least
have experience with it, Like I understand what they were
not doing wrong the way you explained it. But it's
not like they haven't. It's not like the first time
they're doing this. So you would think that they would
have someone competent.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Probably stuck an intern there doing that or something like that.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
Because budget for the NHL draft and then but the
only good thing is that we get tech talk with
Sam Wu afterwards, you know, So I mean, hey, well,
it's a win win situation.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
NFL draft where they had three million people there, well
last April or whatever, that was the NHL Draft three million.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
No, it wasn't that, but it was.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
Yeah, I can't be not three million, No way, maybe
like twenty thousand, ten thousand.
Speaker 1 (16:04):
No at the NFL. You're no green kay No, yeah,
I'm looking.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
It up right now. I'm looking it up.
Speaker 3 (16:14):
Definitely, there's not there's not three million people in Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
So no draft record breaking attendants of six hundred thousand people.
But it doesn't say that I was close enough. I
was close enough.
Speaker 1 (16:29):
Six hundred thousand, a million. Those are the twenty thousand,
all right.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
So seriously, if this was prices right.
Speaker 3 (16:36):
And five million overshoot over here, what are you talking
about this, you'd be you'd be out.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yeah, but no, no, no, unless you and I are
saying four million and five million and he's he's the
closest without going over, then yeah, Sam is close, but no, say.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
It went over three million compared to six hundred thousand. Yeah,
I'm closer there, Sam.
Speaker 2 (16:58):
I can't. I can't mathe I bet.
Speaker 3 (17:05):
A dollar, one dollar, one dollar.
Speaker 2 (17:10):
I love that guy. At the end, let's get all
the other the other three people make their bids, and
the guy at the end or the woman at the
end a dollar and that's the person.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
That of course. Uh but I still I have the
the notes up here from the old which might call
it from the CBA. So we do know that now
the NHL will be in the next two Olympics with
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this CBA, so won't have oz SAM, won't be able
to flip out all the time over the four nations
face off. There have to do it Olympic style. There
is a raise minimum salary from seven hundred and seventy
five K to one million in what is that twenty
(18:04):
twenty nine? I think that's what it says. So I
didn't say if there would be like mild year increases
for the minimum salary, just that's where it would end
up by the time the next CBA comes around. Okay,
he hasn't projected an upper limit of the salary cap
(18:27):
for the twenty twenty nine to thirty season. It marks
an odd relative dip in payment for a league minimum.
M know about that part. Over there, Ah, here we go.
The biggest points of contention was the playoff implications of
(18:48):
the LTIR now includes the CBA now includes a salary
cap for the playoffs.
Speaker 5 (18:56):
Teams will only benefit from cap saving equal to the
previous year's average salary, rather than the full cap hit
of the player. The only exception to this rule is
if the player does not participate in the entire Stanley
(19:18):
Cup playoffs. Shorts, Guy, you're a teacher, so explain that
to me. I need the Michael Scott gift right now.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
I'm a storytellers and I'm that a mather. That sounds
very NHL e verbiage there. That's that's so it's go
over that again. It's what counts as the average amount
of salary per per the previous season.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
Teams will only benefit from cap savings equal to the
previous year's average salary, rather than the full cap hit
of the player. The only exception to this rule is
if the player does not participate in the entire Stanley
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Cup playoffs.
Speaker 2 (20:15):
What is confusing? Yes, so it sounds like that it's
just gonna you're gonna be bringing in players or if
a player like a Mark Stone, for example, were to
come in, now it almost seems like you're not gonna
get his full cap hit. Let's say his cap it
is just for sake of argument eight million. I don't
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really know what it is, and the average salary from
the year prior was six and a half. I guess
it would go six and a half against the cap
if I'm understanding that correctly instead of the full eight.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
You got me.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
It's it sounds like what it's gonna be. That's just
the of course, the league just can't make things simple,
uh and easy, because that's just like that to me
just sounds so wildly. I don't I don't confusing describe it, Yeah, confusing, convoluted,
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what have you. It's like, like, just make it easy.
Why not just make it easy? Just like the playoff brackets?
Can we go back to one through eight?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Yeah, we gotta dumb it down, Gary, we need to
dumb it down.
Speaker 3 (21:37):
Dumb it down, dumb it down.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
Dumb it down through eight.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
But yeah, they got this new uh CBA out there,
so that's good news. So we don't have to worry
about no hockey. Yeah a period of time because we
all know that sucks. And it's fun because we were
just talking in our in our group chat the other
day about like Hall of Fame when Mogilny, you know, uh,
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finally is going into the to the hall. We were
talking about Eliosh and you know, yeah, imagine if we
didn't have that strike, that lockout and he didn't go
to wherever it was Czech Republic or Russia, wherever the
hell he went to play and get hepatitis seat, his
numbers would have would have been good for first or
(22:33):
second ballot like boom in there. But when you look
at that, he lost the lockout year, he lost the
hepatitis year, and then you got like a comeback year
where you're not going at you know, full throttle there.
It's almost like three years he ended up losing because
of that damn lockout. And if he was if there
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was no lockout and they're still just you know, playing here,
I mean at at another you know, probably maybe like
I mean at that time, you know, you're definitely adding
over one hundred points there, you know, to his to
his resume.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
Thirty.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
I mean, he was averaging around pulls at that point.
So that's another ninety another ninety goals. I don't know
how many assists. I'd have to look at the numbers
like what he was averaging at that point in his career,
but you do that and all of a sudden you
got a first or second ballot Hall of Famer right there.
Speaker 2 (23:38):
Yeah, it's those those last years are really detrimental to
him and his numbers. But even still, like he was,
he's one of our greatest devils and deserves to be
in the Hall of Fame, and he eventually will. But
I mean, hell, look look how long it took mcgilney
to get there. Gilly should have been there a long
time ago. And that was kind of like the joke.
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You know, mcgillney isn't there again. Mcgilney has passed over again.
You know, this time he got the phone call and
I guess it was when they called him. It was
like three a m. Or two or three am when
they called him because they they played the recorded phone calls,
which was pretty cool. But yeah, at some point Ellie
ash has to get there, and I feel like it'll happen.
It's just yeah, there's those lost seasons like that was
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such a weird time too for for us as fans,
like to to lose hockey like we did, Like it
was it sucked in ninety five, suck to lose it
again later on, you know, a full season, another half season.
It just it, you know, and then not just eli Ash,
but he tak of players like bro Door and the
different you know, the amount of wins he could have had,
you know, probably.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
He had there, Yeah, he could have. He could have
broke seven hundred. Eddie was just putting down on the
YouTube chat if those if those years weren't gone, Yeah,
Marty probably yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:56):
Well into seven hundreds, you know. It's it really sucks. Yeah,
his shutouts, his shutouts would have been up there too.
It's you know a lot of stuff. And then outside
of Devils, think of what Yager would have done if
he wouldn't have lost those seasons too, like you know,
the the whole idea, the work stoppages and what was
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lost not just for l Ash but for a lot
of players. Just sucks.
Speaker 3 (25:24):
M Well, we do have a lot of other news
going on though as well.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
You know, with.
Speaker 3 (25:34):
Uh, you know, free about to pop here in a
couple of days on Tuesday, you're seeing people, you know,
some deals starting to be made over here, some extensions,
some resignings. Before the free agent frenzy you know, finally
kicks into gear and it'll be interesting to see what
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these devils do. I mean, I think it's pretty obvious.
We've talked about it before, you know, Jake Allen love you,
but don't don't see them bringing him back. And good
for Jake because he's going to be able to command
a lot more money on the free on the free
agent market, uh than he was prior. You know, I
(26:19):
could see Edmonton snatching him up as well, you know,
so yeah, good for Jake Allen. Dumalen, you know, I
don't feel like he'll be back either. Again, we just
have such a crowded defensive room over there. Unless they
figure out some way to move mister Hamilton, then maybe, yes,
(26:44):
you would bring Dumalen back. But I think that'll be
the two big things for the Devils is seeing if
they can work a trade. I mean, Luke is a
no brainer obviously, but that doesn't leave them with a
lot of of you know, wiggle room afterwards. But if somehow,
some way they can get you know, Dougie and Palot traded,
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you know, that would obviously free up a lot more
cap space for the Devils to go out there and
make another big splash.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah, that's you're looking at fifteen open fifteen million open
cap space. If they can move those two contracts, but I'm.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
Well, I'm sure they're probably.
Speaker 2 (27:29):
That's what I was That's what I was just going
to say. I'm not sure if they're going to get
rid of all of that, But even get rid of
getting rid of half of that and opening up you know,
seven and a half million, let's say they retain you know,
just half of it. That's still you know, a decent
amount of of of a space that you got there,
and you can get Namas signed, not Nemachs. I'm looking
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at my screen and thinking about nothing. You know, you
get looked tied up and locked up, and then you
if you figure out, you know, looking at a Markstrom extension,
which is what I'm hoping for. Uh, and then you
got Nico dawes As and RFA next year, you know,
depending on what happens with Markstrom this year and what
they decide to do. So there's there's just there are
(28:16):
decisions that have to be made. But I mean, I
wouldn't mind seeing Jake Allen come back, but if he
can get more money on the open market, I'm not
going to fault him for that either, because I like
what he's done. I feel like it was a good
duo between the two of them, Markstrom and Jake Allen. Uh.
This could also just be Nico DOS's time to step
(28:37):
up and and to be that guy, you know, to
be that guy and maybe have Poulters the third. So
and then we've got what's his name of Beu that'll
be coming into uh yeah you.
Speaker 3 (28:52):
And don't forget about the seven foot tall monster. But
we just uh drafted over here. Samuel apparently is going
to nickname Porkrol because his first name is Trenton Bennett.
Listed as six to six some people say six'. Eight either,
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way he's got to bend down to like get into you,
know the goal frame area over. There this kid is
a beast and he's only nineteen years, old which means
he's probably still gonna grow a little bit as. Well
definitely fill, out but might even get. Taller this is,
(29:37):
like this is like Having zdanochara playing goal for, you you,
know like if this kid pans, out we'll. See obviously
he's a young draft Kick canadian. Kid he's gonna need
time to. Develop he's in THE ohl. Now but, MAN
i saw that AND i was, like who's This? WEDNESDAY
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i FIRST i was. Defenseman i'm, like, no, wait that's
that's a. Goalie that's a. Goalie, hell that's a freaking.
Goalie he's gonna be like The walrus from. WHATEVER i
was on A geico commercial with.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
The yeah the.
Speaker 2 (30:13):
Commercial oh, My i'm looking AT i Am i'm looking
at video of this. Kid now when he's standing in
the in the, crease the crossbar is basically at his,
hips just standing, there like the crossbar is at his,
hips like my back is a here crossbar When i'm
(30:37):
in net my like my shoulder the crossbar.
Speaker 3 (30:42):
From Elite elite prospects there they're. Scouting their quick scouting
report Is Trenton bennett is a monster in the. Crease
he's listed at six, six but some places haven't listed
as tall as six. Eight either, way he's one of
the biggest and most imposing looking goalies in the, draft
and it almost looks like he has to squat to
(31:02):
get his entire frame Into so you we we've got
some goaltenders coming through the. System we know, that and
OBVIOUSLY i think a lot Of devil fans were tuning
into some of those bu games when they were going
to The frozen four to see you go off and
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the chance who you, know has got himself a chance
but to to make the the, roster you, know out
of training. Camp we'll see how he. Does but that's
someone who's probably gonna develop into a good bottom six
type of. Player we, know the the the goal for
the doubles is to rebuild that bottom six mm. Hmm
(31:46):
but you're definitely gonna, see you, KNOW i Think Nolan
foot will get his fair shake this. Year we Know
tatar is not coming, Back Paul cotter is going to be, there,
okay but, yeah, YEAH i mean there's also we've Heard
Dawson mercer's name mentioned in some trade rumors and stuff like.
That we know a lot of teams are interested in
(32:08):
him as. Well so that's that's another thing to keep
an eye. On you, Know, hey well we'll Take dougie
and that nine million, contract but you throw In Dawson
mercer as, well you, know and then we'll we'll take
that money. Too there there might be something along the
lines of that come and fits his way in the
next couple of, days and he's really going to have
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to look into those. Situations mm.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Hmm this, kid this Kid bennett played for The kitchener junior.
Rangers i'm not a fan of.
Speaker 3 (32:41):
That, well we won't hold that against them. Yet, no
but a lot of a lot Of american. Kids you,
know The devil's first three, picks we're all UH i
think THEY'RE i think they were all From. Minnesota there
are definitely uh THREE us. Kids they only picked one,
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defenseman a lot of, centers which we, know we you,
know we need that help down down the.
Speaker 2 (33:09):
Middle, yeah we've we've got plenty of, defensemen just, one, two, Three,
yeah six forwards and a. Goalie not even one.
Speaker 3 (33:17):
Defenseman so uh, no, no, no, no the the last guy
is a. DEFENSEMAN i think that's a city. Room, yeah
there is a forward as a, forward but, yeah if
you go to the actual, page he is a. DEFENSEMAN
a lot about.
Speaker 2 (33:33):
Him, yeah well it says d, there so Old siggy M, okay,
well you know we've we've got a glutt of. Defenseman
SO i think The devils are drafting what their current need.
Is but, however many of you, know who of these
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kids are we actually going to see and? SEE i
guess they're assuming that the defensive core we have is
going to be pretty set and solid for years to.
Come so, now that they're hoping that some of these
forwards are going to come, up you, know within the
next couple of years and started filling some. Holes but that's,
yeah we'll, see you. Know i'm gonna keep an eye on,
(34:15):
this on This bennett kid as BEST i can and
try to watch them of THE Ohl games this year
and see what happens with, him, because you, know watching
some of his watching some of his, video he doesn't
look you, know for for a tall, guy he's he's pretty.
Mobile so it's just a matter of you know what
(34:35):
his you, know what he's actually able to. DO i,
MEAN i Don't i'm just trying to find what his
stats were for the last. Season let's. See oh my,
gosh he was born in two thousand and. Six he
was born the year THAT i went to The West
coast for the first. Time.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
Wow, Wow.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
I'm curious what his if he has any chances of
we ARE i think we are, curiously he has any
chances of making The world junior. Team OH i didn't notice. That, okay,
now six states on Man, ah which has got to
(35:24):
be nearly What vassi, is probably because he's six, SIX
i thought.
Speaker 3 (35:38):
Permanent, yeah that's. Right ted permanent ebug over.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
There, Hey i'm all for. IT i am all for
it because oh, No i'm, sorry he's six for. It
vassi six. FOUR i thought it was told in.
Speaker 3 (35:53):
That i'm pretty sure That Jake allen is not coming
back and, that and again the reason is just. Money
he's going to be able from his performance on The.
Devils he's gonna be able to command a little bit
more than they're probably willing, to, uh you, know put out,
there because we do have a lot of people to,
(36:15):
resign especially we're not gonna IF i bring it Back Cody,
glass you, KNOW i don't, know they're gonna let him
be a free agent and then try to resign him
to a you, know a lesser. Deal but, man there's
there's a couple of pieces that need to be signed
and only you, know currently like seven million. Dollars we're the. Room,
(36:39):
yeah because you, Know luke is gonna eat up that
other seven million most. Likely mm.
Speaker 2 (36:45):
Hmm. Yeah they got so you, got they, got they.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Got you got some names on the free agent market
Like Nicolai eeler's you know From. WINNIPEG i mean he's
gonna command some money.
Speaker 2 (36:57):
Though mm.
Speaker 1 (36:58):
Hmm Or.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Sham he is gonna he's gonna command some. Money, yeah
that's WHY i. Was i'm still surprised that they're not
Bringing Cody glass, back but, hey we shall, see we shall.
Speaker 2 (37:12):
See maybe that's maybe that's what they say now and
maybe you, know they they find a way to do,
it you, know come come the day OF i don't,
know but it's it's we've got to open up some space,
there you, know and then make sure that we're taking
(37:32):
care of what we're gonna, do uh with our own
current roster as. Well you. Know, yeah it's, like you,
know if they're gonna Let Jake allen you, know, walked
and they're gonna have to find a way to, either
LIKE i, said give it To Nico dawes they have
confidence in, him or you, know bring in someone you,
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know someone else you, know and and hope That Mark
strom doesn't pick up a knock like he did this past.
Speaker 3 (37:58):
Season it's gonna be. INTERESTING i, mean, YEAH i don't
know where the devils are really gonna. Look Claude derue
just re signed right with the with The. Senators i'm
(38:19):
just looking through.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
What's?
Speaker 3 (38:23):
There, yeah In, minnesota what's his? Name suitor is a
free agent that might be a he's a center that
could be a good, fit depending on.
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Money There's Jake.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
Allen So Jake allen is projected to have a you,
know like a was this like a seven million dollar
deal two years three point five that's what they're. Projecting, so,
okay who's the dude that was up In? Monchapanie that's,
(39:02):
right he's free. AGENT i Know i've Mentioned Victor olison.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
Before mm.
Speaker 3 (39:11):
Hmmm brandon. Tannev that's an interesting. Name you want to
bring some? Grit that is an Interesting. Yeah danoff from
uh From, dallas it's gonna be a free agent. TOO
(39:34):
i Know i've heard rumors about speaking Of, dallas you, Know,
robertson but that would be a that would be a,
big big deal because you're gonna have to change Uh.
Joel what's this guy's? Name armia from Up he was
playing With Jake, evans who The devils were looking at
in In montreal on that third. Line Jake evans is
(39:55):
the center and Again, army you, know eleven, goals twenty
nine points in anyone in eighty one games. Something he's
a good bottom six and he could he kills penalties as,
well and he's got a little snarl to. Him that's
something that The devils could.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Use, yeah they. Could i'll definitely take.
Speaker 3 (40:19):
That not a super, sexy you, know type of, signing
but in the long, run it could be, very very
beneficial to this.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Team mm. Hmm. Yeah i'm curious if we're not going
to see a lot of those sexy signings for The,
devils just like the small pieces that just need to
fill in the, holes.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
You, KNOW i, mean unless they. CAN i don't think
it's going to be the. SIGNINGS i, mean if they do,
something if they do big splash like, THAT i think
it'll be a.
Speaker 1 (40:47):
Trade.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Yeah, yeah it's gonna have to be a, trade like
without a, doubt BECAUSE i think they're.
Speaker 3 (40:52):
WORKING i think isn't Isn't toronto working on a sign
in trade For? MARNER i believe To vegas.
Speaker 2 (41:00):
Of course it would be.
Speaker 3 (41:00):
That that's obviously of, course, yeah of Course. Vegas now
they're gonna be upset because they're, like wait a, minute
we can't circumvent the the cap come playoff At.
Speaker 2 (41:13):
Marner was supposed to go on vacation In march and
come back right in the middle Of april.
Speaker 3 (41:20):
Exactly, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (41:26):
But it's gonna be interesting to see what the devil's,
do you know It's.
Speaker 3 (41:31):
It will will also be interesting to see which of these,
players you, know take on that new, role BECAUSE i
mean the two That i'm looking at that are you,
know haven't played in THE nhl yet or you, know
Grits yu can the CHANCE i think both of them.
HAVE i, mean depending on how they play and how
(41:52):
they transition to THE nhl, caliber elite level of. COMPETITION
i wouldn't be super super shocked to see either of
those make the team aut a training. Camp, gritzuk we,
know has got some you, know offensive, power and the
chances is a type of dude that we. Need he
(42:15):
is that guy who's going to go in there and
stick up for his teammates and be the leader in
the locker. ROOM i know there's people probably seen this
and know you probably already saw. This that what was
he threw like A thanksgiving party for like he just
took it upon. Himself what was like his freshman year of,
college like he wasn't even captain and then the next
year he was named captain of the team as a.
Sophomore he's been the captain of every team he's been
(42:38):
on since like Pee wee's so, yeah he's just one
of those natural born. Leaders and the dude is a.
Beast he's like six four sixty five, himself and he's
going to clear that crease and he's gonna stick up
for his. Players he's exactly what this team is is
missing right.
Speaker 1 (42:57):
NOW i don't.
Speaker 3 (42:58):
KNOW i, MEAN i KNOW i watched a bunch of
that frozen for, man he was clearing that creasee for
your gore off during that whole playoff or tournament when
everyone whatever the hell you want to call. It, uh in,
college it's college Play it's college, playoff that's what they call. It, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Yeah so but, yeah, man he WAS i, mean he
(43:20):
sent this one dude full lion AND i was just, like,
wow he's gonna get a penalty and he. DIDN'T i was, like,
whoa we need, That we need that on the. Devils,
yeah college, hockey does you, know because well they can't
mean like they get ejected if they, fight, fight, right.
Speaker 2 (43:37):
They, Illgal you're basically it's illegal to, fight but they'll
they'll let you throw a couple with the gloves onto
the helmet before the.
Speaker 3 (43:46):
Gloves, yeah but they don't. Drop that's WHY i feel
like they they get away with a little bit more of,
that you, know just kind of rough and tumble punching with.
Speaker 2 (43:56):
Times, yeah and it's it's. Good it's it's fun to.
Watch AND i got so much more into watching my
old college play last year and then just watching more
college hockey in, general especially towards the end, there and
it was it's JUST i forgot how, good how good
of a game it. IS i know if any press
is always always talking about how much he loves watching,
(44:18):
it but, man IT'S i only you, know made it
to two games this year and hoping to make it
to a bunch. More AND i Know Rooke commando was
was very impressed with seeing the college game, Too so
we'll go to a bunch of more games this this
coming season up to my old. School oh.
Speaker 3 (44:38):
Fun and, uh we forgot about this guy, Too LENNY.
H Hammon, AH i think that's how you Say hammon.
Speaker 1 (44:45):
A ho.
Speaker 2 (44:47):
Ham and Eggs taylor ham And.
Speaker 3 (44:49):
Ao that's. Right he's someone that The devils have signed as,
well who will be you, know pitching in and looking
for one of those bottom six. Roles so this.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Is kind of it really.
Speaker 3 (45:07):
Is fitzis has said, it we need to redo. It
we can't come back the same. Way it wasn't good.
Enough and uh he's he's making some some big fire
sale changes or wholesale, changes not, firesale that's, wrong big wholesale.
Changes And i'm. Happy maybe it'll keep this team on
the right track for the entire, season because good, lord
(45:31):
that first half was so good and then it just
went kind of like The mets now all of a,
sudden you, know it. Hits The mets look like the
team that needs The All star break more than. Anybody
and remember when the when we got The, star we were,
like this devil's team needs The All star break just
to recoup and, refresh and he'll come.
Speaker 1 (45:51):
Back.
Speaker 3 (45:53):
Nah so hopefully The mets won't won't do what The devils,
did but, yeah they. Gotta they got to play with
that fire all year long and we'll.
Speaker 1 (46:05):
See.
Speaker 3 (46:05):
Man free agency is gonna be. Fun LIKE i, SAID
i don't know if they'll be that big sexy signing
unless they do go for, eelers but other than, THAT
i think it'll be a. Trade and we know that
they've been shopping p a. Lot they've been Shopping dougie
(46:25):
just because you, Know Pa, LOOT i think is more
of a performance thing and the Money dougie is just
it's a crowded defensive room at this, point And Luke
hughes is ready to step into that role he did
last year As dougie was, hurt you, know and nine
million dollars that's damn that's a. Lot So Pa, LOOT
(46:47):
i think it's been a little bit of the. Performance
the contract is six, million it's. Spoof maybe if he
was at like two or three you would deal with
it a little, bit but at six million per But
DOUGIE i don't have as much of an issue WITH
i think If dougie does come, BACK i, think you,
know it always takes a while for guys to come
(47:08):
back from you, know big massive, injuries especially like one
he had with the shoulder and everything like. That sometimes
it's the second year back where they finally like really
regain their. Form SO i wouldn't be surprised to see
If dougie does stay on the. TEAM i wouldn't be
surprised to see a, big monster year from. Him but Polot,
(47:29):
man you, know like it just it just doesn't seem
to have. Worked, yeah and you want to give him
a chance because you know he's a good guy in
the locker. Room he wears an a and you know
he's gonna. Hustle he's gonna give you everything he's. Got
but it just doesn't seem to be, working and at
least not for, yeah exactly what he. Exactly LIKE i,
(47:53):
said if this was a two million dollar, contract then
maybe you're, like all, right well we'll just deal with.
It but six mill per, year that's damn it's a
lot of. Money uh, oh here he, Comes.
Speaker 1 (48:13):
Nintendo we should look up some highlights Of. CILIA i
think he might be the guy we're looking.
Speaker 3 (48:27):
For he's going to be a freight. Train he's gonna be, like,
uh what's his? Name, volchenkov just like the The russian
freight train coming through is gonna hit.
Speaker 2 (48:38):
Everybody, well we we might find out sooner rather than,
later because development camp starts. Tomorrow AND i know we
talked about this last or two weeks, ago whenever the
hell we were last ON i can't even remember at this.
Point but with the hiring Of, shaw who's such a
(49:02):
great defensive mind and known around the, league you, know
that's always the big thing with some of These russian
players is, like are.
Speaker 3 (49:09):
They gonna come over To? America you, know we saw
it With mohammadulan and it was, like, Yeah i'm thinking about.
It i'm homesick NOW i want to go back for
another year or two and play in THE. Khl when
you have a coach Like Brad. Shaw now with, that
you know that resume of being such a great teacher
(49:31):
of the game and so many you KNOW nhl defenseman,
today you know high you, know high standard. Ones we
talked About petranngelo and you know he was there with
The blues run and if you see that as a
young player Like asiliev over there in THE, khl you're gonna, say, like,
(49:52):
mal MAYBE i won't resign for another. Year MAYBE i
dover to Uh New jersey and work with the guy
who has produced you, know so many good look, Ever
wrensky last year he, rebounded but like it Was shaw
that like what WAS i think the stat was something
(50:12):
when he came when he went To, columbus they were
like second or third worst defensive team in the, league
and then he got there and they popped into the top.
Speaker 2 (50:21):
Five, jeez it's gonna be so should be big when
you're a prospect like.
Speaker 3 (50:29):
That, YEAH i think you can. Do shane the chance
could be a, gritty timomyer type of player in the high. Danger,
YEAH i could see. THAT i, MEAN i definitely don't
think he's going to be lighting up the goal sheet the,
chance but he's going to bring you all those. Intangibles
BUT i would foresee him being more maybe around you,
(50:49):
know ten to fifteen goals goals a year kind of.
Scorer here's your fourth line center for you could be
good who can kill? Penalties, yeah this is, uh.
Speaker 2 (51:06):
You, know there's there's a lot to look forward to this,
year that's for.
Speaker 3 (51:10):
Sure dougie needs to stay. Healthy it's been too much miss.
Time yeah he. Has he has missed a lot of.
Time mm.
Speaker 2 (51:19):
Hmm and it's gonna be to to move.
Speaker 3 (51:22):
That i'm, sorry go.
Speaker 2 (51:25):
AHEAD i was gonna. SAY i saw someone say. That
are we gonna get somewhere in the chest say we're
gonna get a full season on a Jack that would
be great. Too that's another.
Speaker 3 (51:34):
One you, know to keep paying your draft, Picks steven Says. Mercer, Nemets, Casey,
palott And hamilton are all on the block for. TRADES
i don't Think nemits Or casey is going. Anywhere we'll.
SEE i Think nemmos, was but that playoff run kind
of solidified him as an uh, oh maybe we can
(51:56):
get rid Of. Dunky we know we Got, luke but
now we got this other kid.
Speaker 2 (52:00):
Too he's just got to show it and continue and
to build off of. That and AND i think if
the emergence of what he did in the playoffs combined
with What shaw can, DO i think that that could
be a huge situation for him and could cause him
to have a huge step.
Speaker 1 (52:17):
Forward.
Speaker 3 (52:19):
Definitely all, Right as we need to get into our
final thoughts over, Here yes we. Do intending at the
rookie camp will be a big. Deal both Brad shaw
And shell And keith hold him into. Something i'm this,
kid it's gonna be one of those big monster keep
(52:47):
your head on a swivel because he is going to
lay you out type of d man coming our. Way uh,
oh as my interwebs happening, Again oh, boy stupid. Spectrum all, right,
well we'll wrap it, up get into some final thoughts right.
HERE i will just say my final thought IS i
(53:09):
think The devils did a good job with the limited
picks that they, had no first, rounders no, big massive,
splash but you, KNOW i thought they did a good,
job especially in the area of need down down the.
MIDDLE i think they they went out there and they
got some good. Pick we'll see if, they you, know
they actually develop into something that's you, know a completely
(53:31):
different story. There BUT i think they went out and
they and they got some good. Picks and don't be
upset if if there is no big splashy move On,
tuesday LIKE i, said if they can maybe go after, heelers,
maybe but like other than, THAT.
Speaker 1 (53:51):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (53:51):
KNOW i think you're gonna see more of, that you,
know some of those like guys that you, know the
third and fourth line type, dudes which is what we.
Speaker 2 (53:59):
Need mm.
Speaker 1 (54:01):
Hmm so just don't be upset you were, first you.
DON'T i don't.
Speaker 3 (54:08):
Know he's being smart about. It and if there is
gonna be a big, move trade baby. Trade that's my final.
Speaker 2 (54:17):
Thought, okay uh mine Is i'm looking forward To tuesday
to see what. Happens i'm with, YOU i don't know
if it's gonna be a big it's probably gonna be a.
Trade the biggest thing will be a, trade but it
could be a lot of smaller. Moves But i'm also
excited to see what some of these young kids can.
Do And i'm HOPING i can catch some of that
three on three that they're going to do On wednesday
(54:39):
on the, Second so that'll be fun to watch And
i'm looking forward to.
Speaker 1 (54:43):
It, finally you got, There CAPTAIN. Usa we didn't really
talk about. This we talked a little bit about The
Hockey hall Of fame again another Year Stan fischer or
not in he's ninety three years, old m and it's
getting so pathetic that IT'S i don't, KNOW i don't
(55:06):
know what to think of. IT i think the selection
committee needs to be all. Fired this is this is
an easy. One why isn't he the.
Speaker 3 (55:16):
Probably the same GUY i was running the board on
THAT espn?
Speaker 6 (55:19):
Broadcast, yeah probably. PROBABLY i don't. Know i'm just Still
i'm just still. Stunned stand for The. Hall we need
to start a.
Speaker 1 (55:38):
Campaign we say that every, year BUT i THINK i
think we got to do it this this. YEAR i,
mean IF i have to run out on the ice
and get arrested just holding up a sign that Says
Stan fishler For Hockey, hall it. FAME i have to do.
It M.
Speaker 3 (55:57):
M maybe in instead Of Missus, fields you can put
on A Stan fischler costume when we go to the.
Game you can do the White beard and, everything you,
know like the you, KNOW.
Speaker 2 (56:11):
I got an, IDEA i got an. Idea we'll just
Have Beer barron verbally acost the selection committee like a
four students out there AT. Asu that'll get that'll get
it to change memories.
Speaker 1 (56:32):
Good.
Speaker 2 (56:32):
Times, yeah that's would be like one thousand dollars a
pop pay per view if you want to watch that
as a group with us one.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
Day we can make that happen this.
Speaker 2 (56:43):
Summer we, can we. Should we can put it on
the big screen, now, yeah just randomly on the big screen. There.
Speaker 1 (56:53):
Yeah but, audio all, right, well thank you all those tuning.
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