Going Off The Rails (Season 8 | Episode 31)

It's the end of July and we'll probably go off the rails of this crazy train!

By Sam Woo, Beer Baron, Scotty, and Shorts Guy

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:26):
Happy Devil Sunday. This is the Let's Go Devils Podcast,
Season eight, Episode thirty one, going off the Rails tonight.
I'm your host Samboo here with myself, Spear of Barn,
Scottie short Sky in a next few minutes, streaming live

(00:49):
on Facebook Live, YouTube Live, x Live, and Twitch on
the Let's Go Devil's Podcast network. I have to make
a statement before we begin, make a statement just when

(01:09):
I doubted him. I want to give congratulations to Beer
Barn for making a cameo here ah his acting debut,
and Happy gilmore too. After months of talking about it,
talking about it on Oh Scotty, your MIC's not on,

(01:32):
talking about it through text messages. Oh there we go.
We got the applause.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Now it should be like this golf class.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Oh right, for making I can't believe it, buddy, Like,
I'm so proud of you. Normally I would be jealous
and wouldn't talk to you, but I'm actually proud of you.
You really, really, really did your homework. You put the
effort I've never seen you put effort into getting in
the line, waiting, telling us all about it, cutting people off,

(02:08):
you know, getting ahead of the line.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
After he nailed the part.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
I nailed it. I nailed it. I mean excited.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Fan Academy Award winning performance there.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
Well, I got a phone call from I got a
phone call from the Academy today. I said, sir, we
are impressed. We are impressed. Himself hand wrote a letter
and said, Wow, that's it. That's all I said was wow.
But that's enough from Scorsese. That's all you need.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
That's enough. Wow, that's enough right there.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
Yeah, yeah, it was. It was an insane experience.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
Actually, my boy Will shout out to my boy Will,
who's listening right now? Uh? Somebody I met on set
who I feel like I've known this kid forever. Like
it's one of those people that you meet and you're
just like.

Speaker 3 (02:57):
Oh like that year that Sam Wue.

Speaker 2 (03:00):
It feels like I met each kind of a big deal.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
It. Wow, it.

Speaker 2 (03:11):
Was on set. Yeah, I got you gotta talk to Lingo. Man,
if you're gonna be in the biz, you gotta talk
to Lingo.

Speaker 1 (03:15):
You know. I heard I heard the nuts gig is
with Sydney Sweeney. That's that's the rumor.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yes, yes, yes, there's a there's a scene. The tarp
will be off. Who's who's tarp.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
No, it was cool man, Yeah, like we Uh it was.
It was one of these experiences like we the whole
I'm not going to bore you with the whole long story,
but uh. I went to Morristown when they had the
big open call and it was the day after I
had my vissectomy. So I was walking around with giant
the bag of giant bag of peas and my nuts.
I'm not kidding. So I was like, I'm not I'm

(03:50):
not mentioning this opportunity. I said, I gotta do this
once in a lifetime opportunity. And uh I walked in
and I did cut the line. I'm not out of
that moment in life, but I did cut the line. Actually,
I I asked these people very nicely. I walked with
this guy and I go because he was a college kid.
I put it in college kid terms. I was like, yo, bro,

(04:11):
I just had my I just had ball surgery. Can
I jump in line right now? And he goes, yeah, yeah, sure, man,
oh for sure. And he tried to high fight me
and I'm like, I got to hold this ice, buddy,
I'm not I'm not high five and no one, Uh
and then I got in. I got in they you know,
they do the whole thing. And then I didn't hear
anything for for a long time, so I was like, ah, whatever,
I missed the opportunity. Some guy was like chirping me

(04:33):
from the back, like due, good cut, and I'm like,
I did. My balls got cut too? You want to
see him? And yeah, and then uh I got the call.
We we got on set. I met my boy Will
on the bus at like five in the morning on
the on the way there, and it was like it
was a wild experience. And then I, you know, all
truth be told, I haven't seen the movie yet because

(04:56):
I'm waiting for for Nickki to watch it, but uh
I you know it's I've seen pictures and I know
I made it, so I've I made the final cut,
which is pretty wild. Check that out the old bucket
list of crazy things that I've accomplished in my life.

Speaker 1 (05:12):
Could you do me?

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Congratulations a huge favor.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
I don't have Netflix, can I Can I watch it
when Nikki gets back.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
Yeah, we'll have a we'll have a watch party. A
watch party. I'll put a little red carpet out in
front of my house and like we'll do photos like
the backdrop.

Speaker 1 (05:32):
Well, as the executive producer of this podcast, a red carpet,
you know, a podcast.

Speaker 4 (05:40):
People as you know, the guests arrive and everything and
walk the red carpet, we should probably interview them.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, dude, we should definitely do that. You know what,
I'm gonna print out that one picture. I'm gonna sign it.
At the next live podcast. We do a black and
white picture, my head shot and just a couple of glossies.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
Is that Burke.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
It was like Bert Kreischer was in that movie. It's like, no,
it was me.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
But I as the executive producer. It touched my heart
when you said I tried to get the podcast jersey
on I did. They won't allow it, and they allowed it.
We tried.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
We tried the one you see over Scotty's shoulders, the
one I tried to wear. But at least I had
a jersey Rock and Rollers because I was there two
days and I wore two different things. So like the
one day I was wearing a Jersey Rock and Rollers
jersey that I've had since I was like twelve years old,
and a Devil's hat and it was crazy. Is there's
a ton of people that were like Rock and Devil's

(06:41):
jerseys in the crowd, which I thought was pretty cool.
So the team was well represented there, so it was uh,
you know, it was a very fun event. It was
in Fiddler's Elbow, which is fifteen minutes away from my house,
give or take, so it was nice. Yeah, it was.
It was a uh dude, the whole I've never been

(07:02):
on a set like that for like an actual giant
movie actually once, but I stumbled on it by mistake
when m Night Shamalon was filming something in Philly when
I lived there, which is a story for another day.
But anyways, Yeah, it was awesome. I met some amazing people.
Uh we we we uh we had a great time

(07:24):
and uh yeah, and now it's out and now it's
I can't wait to actually sit down and watch it.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Well appearing now the shorts guy nice hat.

Speaker 2 (07:34):
That isnt that is a nice hat.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
It's just simple.

Speaker 4 (07:39):
That's a very nice by the way, has reviewed Beer
Baron's performance in Having Bilbo. I didn't know. I didn't
notice you.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Maybe if I send it to the group, Sam can
put it on the screen and then there will be
visual proof.

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Well, I I haven't seen the movie yet, I'm waiting
for my Netflix. You know, I need a fund Netflix
to watch.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
I've seen that still shot you sent beer Baron, and
I have to say, your choice in hockey jersey to
wear in the crowd is top notch. Oh thanks about
absolutely top notch?

Speaker 1 (08:23):
Is it now? It's official? Right, It's not like some
AI generated photo of you in there.

Speaker 2 (08:29):
If even if it is so what I made it?
Who gives it? I mean, if if it's me or
if it's not me, it's my face, even if they've
put my face in somebody else's body, like Bert Kreischer's body, whatever,
I'm still there, all right.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
I'll try to I'll try to put it in the
computer and show everybody, or I could do this.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
I hope you put a picture of Burt Kreischer up
and that'd be even funnier.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
Th hell, yes, and I know I need to get that's.

Speaker 2 (09:01):
You know what's crazy though, is do you remember when
it used to make jerseys with like like they were
very holy, because if that makes sense, yeah, yeah, that's
that's that jersey. It's like the original like hold like
almost like a penny type of jersey. Like it's just
just old school rock and rollers jersey. I can't believe I.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
Still have that.

Speaker 3 (09:20):
Yeah, I'm jealous, man, You're gonna.

Speaker 5 (09:25):
Jersey I have is the only rock and roller jersey
I have is from a camp I went to.

Speaker 4 (09:31):
Well, you guys the nominees in the category of guy
in movie I watched but didn't know.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
Well, if you slow it down enough and he zoom
it in.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
Congratulations sir, and you did it. That's a really awesome, dude.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
None of us can really say that for you.

Speaker 5 (09:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, out of the four of u, Scotty has the
most exciting life ever. He meets like awesome people all
the time. That's why this is like the like to
get a mean actually means a lot to me because
I'm like, this guy actually hangs out with like rock
and roll whole hall of famers, and you know, after
Ozzy passed away, unfortunately, he sends his picture like this me,

(10:16):
you know, Buzzy. I'm like, yeah, that's pretty wild, man,
that's pretty pretty wild.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Those triple whammy this past week, I mean it was.

Speaker 4 (10:28):
And there was there was like, yeah, there was a
jazz some like jazz guitarist and pianist guy passed away too.
It was it was a it was a crazy week.

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Is that that Charlie.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
The horn player from New York in Rochester?

Speaker 3 (10:50):
Maybe yeah on my jazz Yeah, maybe maybe I should be.

Speaker 4 (11:01):
Yeah dude, but yeah, with everything going on, obviously, mister there,
So did you ever We'll still.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Hear Do you have any do you have any good
as stories from you hanging out that you would like
to share or willing to share?

Speaker 3 (11:23):
All I say is they were all good stories.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
It was cool, like really cool getting to meet him
and work with them, you know, multiple times, just whenever
he came in and stuff. But yeah, he was like
you know, like when you're a kid and your grandpa
comes over and you're super excited, you know, because you're
gonna do something that your parents won't let you do
or something like that.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
You know.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
That was That's what it was like when Ozzie would
come into the studio.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
So yeah, you.

Speaker 2 (11:47):
Before dinner with him, is what you're saying exactly.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (11:51):
Yeah, So it was not It was a lot of
fun and he was great to work with and he
did he did a lot of a lot of nice things.
So he was always good guy. But he's we're still
gonna You're still gonna hear him at every you know,
Devil's game. I guarantee you will be screamed at some
point or another. So one of those guys that left

(12:15):
his mark on the world. Yeah, he left his mark
on the world. He's unfortunately or fortunately, uh, you're not
gonna be able to forget him because he'll be there.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
So yeah, that's what's most important.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
I saw I saw a meme out there said Ozzie's.
Uh it's and I'm gonna butcher it. I should have
saved it, but it said Ozzie's. Ozzy's first task as
a ghost is to take out Whole Cogan. That was
that was the thing. It was like his his his
first thing that he did as a after dying was

(12:50):
to take out Whole Cogan.

Speaker 4 (12:52):
Oh man, you know the welcome party being thrown by limbs.
That's what I'm imagine, Uh, the very first thing.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
Yeah, ready to go.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
One of I do have to say one of the
the silver lining or not silver linings, I guess like
one of the the happy moments of like after It
Happened is all the old clips from the Ozzy Osbourne show,
which like when we were when we were when we
were growing up, It was one of the funniest shows

(13:31):
on TV at one point. And if you don't know
what we're talking about, like all the shot my favorite
one is when he was chasing the cat, like chasing
the cat in the backyard with his slippers on. God,
because it just it's like the I love that show.
But it's not like the Kardashians or anything like that

(13:53):
where it's like they're all like, oh, we're going to
a private jet to go somewhere. It was Ozzy cleaning
up dog crap. It was like Ozzy doing things that
like every human being can relate to that has an animal.
It was like everything that he did, like as a dad,
like now as a father, Like watching that show back
and watching clips back, I'm like, oh my god, he's
so much more relatable than I ever imagined.

Speaker 1 (14:17):
I saw.

Speaker 4 (14:17):
I mean when he got the whole entertainment system and
everything and he had a broke control.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
Man, like, it was just there was sobody clone there. Yeah,
it was.

Speaker 4 (14:28):
You were watching a lot of those seeing a lot
of the concert videos. The whole back to the beginning
thing was awesome. When that took place, you know, earlier
in the month. Oh yeah, it's been it's been like
a good refresh of all that crazy buzziness. And it's
just funny to think that Ozzie was just so everybody loved,
just like heavy metal people, you know, it was everybody

(14:51):
loved him because he was everywhere like that, And.

Speaker 3 (14:53):
A good part of it was because of the Osbourne's.

Speaker 5 (14:58):
Yeah, he was able to kind of reach across all
kind of spectrums there and really grabbed that crowd that
would not have listened to him otherwise. But I know,
one of the funny things I saw, and I don't
know what the it was, Jimmy Kimmel was was m
seeing this, so it was either the early days of
a Jimmy Kimmel show or maybe the Man Show or
whatever it was. It was Ozzy doing a trivia contest

(15:21):
about Ozzy Osbourne against a super fan and it was
absolutely hysterical some of the stuff that he was answering.

Speaker 1 (15:30):
One of them was.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
One of them was a name of the where a
name of an album came from, and like he said
something random that they weren't expecting, and the super fan
answered something else and he just kind of looked at
Ozzy was like, well, you were there, so we're gonna
give you the points. It was just like it was funny.
It was funny to watch because he got some questions

(15:54):
wrong or he didn't get him in time, which is
even better.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
Oh my god, you know what, I just realized something. Boys,
I need I need to step away for one second.
It's a it's a good reason. I'll be right back,
not because I have to take dumb or anything. Continue
the conversation. It's important. It wouldn't be the first time.
Back in the day when Scotty and I were in
a band together, I don't know if you remember this guy,
I had to piss so bad in the middle of

(16:20):
a song and we had a wireless mic for some
odd reason, I don't even know when we got it.
We had a wireless mic and I was like, well
I might as well, and mid song, just went in
the bathroom and took a piss and then came back
out and was like, no, I didn't wash my hands.
So that was.

Speaker 1 (16:40):
Young. Oh yeah, to be young and stupid.

Speaker 3 (16:45):
Oh man, So.

Speaker 5 (16:53):
We got tom asking if if anyone thinks that Luke
will be signed before Friday, what do you think they're
Scotty about Luke?

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah, well, it.

Speaker 5 (17:04):
Seems to be the big It's funny because.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
Oh yeah, I mean it's funny because we were talking,
you know about Dougie Hamilton, you know, maybe a Dawson
mercer obviously Andre Palot in a trade situation there. But
I don't think we really went and threw the name

(17:28):
of Nico Dawes out there as well when we were
talking some trades as now a potential candidate with Jake
Allen signed for the long term.

Speaker 3 (17:40):
Mark Stroum, you know, is here on a brief project.
You see what happens. Yeah, and yeah, so Nico Dawes,
he's out of options.

Speaker 4 (17:58):
And if they don't trade him, he's going to hit
the waiver wire and someone is gonna snatch him up
for nothing. So that's another name for Devils fans to
kind of just keeping on with maybe some moves happening
on the trade front, because it seems like you might
be the the new uh destination, you.

Speaker 5 (18:22):
Know, yeah, the new long term goalie solution.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (18:28):
I can tell you someone that's going to be real
upset if they trade Nico Dawes' is Brook. She wants
nothing to do with him being traded. She's not thrilled
with Jake Allen signing and the long you know, the
long term of it. But yeah, Nico Dawes is definitely
one of those candidates now. But I really think in
this NHL you need to have three good, solid goaltenders,

(18:52):
So it wouldn't shock me if they did.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Keep to that.

Speaker 2 (18:59):
What that's this is an original, But this is what
I went to go get, the Let's Go Devils. Look
at how beautiful this is.

Speaker 5 (19:10):
That's an original red Yeah.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Yeah, this is the Let's Go Devil's one. And it's
got the jersey on it, so it actually looks like
a jersey, which was the original idea. And and I
haven't had one yet. So if you live near the
Chester area, there is the Chester Liquor Store. It used
to be Shopright Liquors, but it's now just Chester Liquor,
I think, but they have one. But here's to you boys.

Speaker 1 (19:37):
There you go ers finishing cheers to you good right?

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Oh yeah, oh that's good.

Speaker 5 (19:45):
I still I still got some of the downstairs in
my house here that I have to eventually have this summer. Uh,
Scotty devil Haven is saying no reason to trade Dawzy,
So we'll have to see what happens.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Unless Devil.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
Seven in the chat is saying no reason to trade Dawsy.
But I don't know. I feel like that you kind
of need that third goalie in this new NHL.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
I I don't just to jump in on this conversation. Uh.
I think that he might be okay this year, but
next year, I think they have big plans for for
uh Yager ever big mic. So maybe that's the reason
why his name is kind of been floating out there
because they see what they have in the pipeline and
they're like, oh, we we can't we can't wait too long.

Speaker 4 (20:36):
No, he's he's out of options. So his contract, if
he goes down, he's got to go through waivers.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
Yeah, I know. And if he goes through waivers, he's
gone in a heartbeat.

Speaker 5 (20:47):
Yea, unless they're planning on keeping him. Unless unless they're
just planning to keep him as a as a third
goalie option and maybe rotating Jake Allen and Nico Dawes
to get him some time. And then you have Jacob
Markstram as a starter. Because we have to do something.
We have to do something in order to make sure

(21:08):
that we have to re sign Markstrom after this season,
because he's up at the end of the season. So
you know we've talked about goaltending has been an issue
over the last couple of years, Jacket Markstrom. We have
to find a way, and it's actually going to come
at a good time because the CAP's gonna go up
next year, so we can pay him money, unlike you
know now it's part of it's being paid by Calgary.

Speaker 1 (21:33):
Question.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yeah, okay, no, I was gonna say, like the question,
The question that I have for you is, though, is
do you keep him at the hopefully you keep him
at the same tag, or do you try to get
him for less.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
I I would keep him at least what he's making
at now, even if it's not with the whatever thirty
seven percent with that Calgary's paying. And I'm going to
point to Bobroski is showing that an older goalie can
win a Cup twice in a row.

Speaker 1 (22:03):
You know, we were worried about.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Three cups in the last four years too.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
In the last four years.

Speaker 5 (22:08):
Yeah, the worry I think that a lot of us
had when he came was his age. But Lebraski is
showing it doesn't really matter if you keep on your
game and you keep up and but we got to
show that we have the opportunity or the chance to
win over the next couple of seasons because he is
getting older Marksham and he wants to win a Cup.

(22:30):
I think that there's there's very few on this team
who are as competitive as Jacob Marksham, and I'm I
I know the guy wants to win, and I know
if the Devils don't show like they're in a position
to win it soon, I can see him going somewhere
that's going to be almost a lock to win.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
M Yeah, no, I get it.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
The Devils really have.

Speaker 5 (22:55):
The Devils really have to show that if they want
to sign him again after this season.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Now, when I walked away, I don't know if you
guys talked about the Thomas and I got butcher his
last name. Dude, I'm terrible. By the way, if you're
new to this podcast, welcome to the fact that I
can't pronounce anybody's names.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
You're not as bad as Billy Dean. Billy Dean is.

Speaker 2 (23:16):
Worse Boudreaux or how do you pronounce his last name? Thomas,
the guy that the Devil's just signed.

Speaker 5 (23:23):
Oh from San Jose right, yeah, yeah, yeah, I still
have not yet figured out how to say his name either,
but yeah, it's I have I haven't had any time
to look into him, Scotty.

Speaker 1 (23:36):
Have you looked into this? Uh?

Speaker 3 (23:38):
To him, Oh, I was gonna let beer Baron go
for it.

Speaker 5 (23:42):
Oh, beer Baron.

Speaker 2 (23:45):
Oh so yeah, it's a good guys, let me get
the fire up the old. Yeah, you guys can talk
about it. I mean, like listen, to be honest with you,
it's not like a knock your socks offf move. I
think it's more of a bottom six type of move obviously,
but it's just like more depth. It was kind of
an interesting move considering, uh, you know, the word out

(24:08):
of Fitzgerald was that he wasn't going to be doing
anything until he locked up Luke long term, or at
least locked up Luke to a new contract. So I
think it was just something that I don't think it was.
Some people were like, oh, it was just him throwing
a bone to the fans. That's not throwing a bone
at the fans. That's just you know, roster maintenance and
trying to fill out, like trying to fill out a spot.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
That's a He's it's a two way deal too.

Speaker 2 (24:30):
Yeah. And and Tom Tom, Thank you. Tom Tom said,
he's a twenty two year old centerman. Uh and he
was a second round pick, so Brodiello Roadillo And he's
five nine.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Very very low risk move, very low risk move right there.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
And it's a two ways so they can set him
down if need be.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Sprong went to the KHL.

Speaker 4 (24:53):
You know, over the week, we've heard, we've heard smoke
about that, so like, yeah, not a big deal.

Speaker 3 (25:01):
Yeah, the next thing is Luke, but I don't. I
just I think I think fits.

Speaker 4 (25:05):
He's got to find some more money, which means someone's
gotta be moved or something's got to happen. That's the
only way they're gonna get him resigned at this point.

Speaker 5 (25:14):
Can't you sign over the cap until sometime in September?

Speaker 2 (25:20):
I believe so, because I believe I believe Florida is
over the cap right now. And then yeah, I'm pretty
sure it's Florida's over the cap and they need to
like make some moves, these types of moves, those these
types of like they needed a third line center. You know,
if this guy's what's gonna fit the bill? Okay, he's
a little undersized at five foot nine, if that's correct

(25:43):
by Steven Angel, Thank you, Steven.

Speaker 1 (25:46):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
The new guy, we'll call him t B because I
if I try to pronounce this guy's and you're gonna
watch me have a stroke on on live air. Thomas
Bordullotello Naga not gonna be a top liner, that's for sure.

(26:12):
And I apologize, man.

Speaker 4 (26:13):
I tell I canna tell you anything right now, and
you would just be like, oh that's how you okay?

Speaker 1 (26:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (26:17):
And then yeah, dude, I know yeah, and short guy,
you can understand that the amount of names that we
have to memorize, and like the weirder the names for
his parents are like, forget about Mike and Tom and
Jack and and Steve.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
It's gonna what's your name? Huraka do? And I'm like,
what the heck is that, dude? How many vowels are
in that? I can't that's just a made up name.
But I'm just saying, like, it's not it's not as
easy as as it used to be.

Speaker 5 (26:45):
Everybody's and you always have and and you always have
two kids that kind of look alike and have very
similar names, and you get which one is which You're like, hey,
yeah that.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
You yeah, exactly. At Hey, what's that buddy? Hey, I
don't kid. I always tell the kids somebody's like, if
I know your name is either really good or really bad.
If I remember your name right off the bat, it's
one of those two nothing in between.

Speaker 5 (27:13):
Yeah, that's like the standard first first week speech. Listen
if I if I if I remember your name by
the end of the first week, it's not probably for
a good reason.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Oh but yeah, I mean, listen, there's there's plenty of time.

Speaker 4 (27:29):
To I don't think this guy is gonna be, you know,
a third line center. I think you know, Cody Glass
might take that on. Dawson Mercer might take that on
if he's not moved. This is a depth signing over here,
two way type of thing. It'll be interesting to see
who the PTOs are come training camp time.

Speaker 3 (27:52):
You know what, what veterans out there.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
Yeah, you always get you know, every now and then
you you land something nice. We've had plenty of PTOs
get signed up before maybe have some decent, decent time
with the team, you know, usually for the year only,
but we have seen other things pan out in the
long run. Wasn't it what what the hell was his

(28:18):
name that he played? He ended up playing for the Rangers,
but I think he was a PTO for Anton Strawman defenseman.

Speaker 3 (28:25):
I think he.

Speaker 4 (28:26):
I think he and then he ended up playing like
three or four years with the Rangers and then someone
else too.

Speaker 3 (28:32):
Did he get moved down to Tampa? Maybe I can't remember.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
But probably if he was a Ranger, if he was
a Raider natural, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
The Ranger Tampa. That's that.

Speaker 5 (28:46):
That's what we always joke with Billy Dean is how
is how Tampa is going to fleece the Rangers next?

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Because they like to do that.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
Yeah, it's always to Shwim's benefit and never to Billy Dean's.

Speaker 2 (28:58):
You know, I not not to like Dwell on that team,
but are either of you two, I mean contract numbers
or whatever, but we're either of you two kind of
surprised that they moved off from Crider.

Speaker 3 (29:12):
No, I was trying to trade him during the season.
I feel like that. I think I think that was
just Dry's gonna do what's gonna do. So yeah, I was.

Speaker 5 (29:24):
I was still a little surprised. He was kind of
like a heart and soul guy of that team. But
you're right, Scott A. Drew is gonna do what Drury
wants to do, or Drury is doing what the front
office is telling Drury to do and just letting him
be the hatchet.

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Probably that's probably more like it.

Speaker 1 (29:40):
Yeah you saw that more with what.

Speaker 5 (29:44):
Yeah, yeah, uh, it's.

Speaker 1 (29:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (29:53):
But but then there those two were good friends there
they they were re united again at ANALYM.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
So see you not then it feels so good.

Speaker 4 (30:03):
So so I was having I was having a little
fun the other day, and I was trying to put
together I was trying to put together even though it
was hot out, you know, and just yeah, of course
they need sometimes to keep them on, try to put
together some line combinations and not like just not just

(30:26):
the usual ones, although I do have some of the
usual suspects in here. But as of right now, you know,
you got your Jack Hues, you got your Jasper Brat,
you got your Niko he sure, you got your Tiamo Meyer. Okay,
then you you don't really you're not really sure here.
Do you have a Cody Glass or do you have
a Dawson Mercer? And who's on the right side for

(30:48):
that third line? Is it grits Uk or is it
Connor Brown?

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (30:54):
And then same thing on the on the left side,
you get Cotter, Nason standing Off and Polot.

Speaker 3 (31:04):
How would you you know, how would you go ahead
and mix those up?

Speaker 4 (31:07):
I I I try to do something out of the
ordinary for mine because I want to keep Timo on
the right side. Jessper Brant kind of seems to do
good on either side. Paul Carter those left left wing,
Nason can play, you can play either side. I think

(31:28):
gritz Yuke is mainly played right wing when he's been
coming up, although he's listed as both, he's mainly played
right wing. Same thing with Connor Brown. Paula can do
either side. So what I did looking at my lines
is I flipped Plot and Cotter and I put him

(31:50):
up with Jack and Jasper on the left side, Jack
center obviously, Jasper on the right. Then I got Nason
on the left side, Nico and Timo. Then I got
Dan and off Glass and Gritzyuk on the third line.
And then I.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Like that third line at third line sneaky right there.
I'll tell you what though, the moving moving uh codder
up to the line with Jack is if that could work,
could be a really good thing. You get somebody, yeah,
I get somebody that you get somebody that can. He
has finished, he has good hands, he can, he's he's

(32:28):
got a little bite to his game, you know what
I mean, Like the dude will be there to protect you.
You know, nobody's going to take a run at Jack
while while Cotter's out there on the ice, because you
know he's gonna get you. The only problem is is
if he's out there, he's got to be able to
keep up at that pace. I'm pretty sure last year
there was a couple of games where they tried that
experiment and it was okay, not great, not bad. But

(32:51):
at the same time, there was a lot of experimenting
that was going on with the reshuffling of the lines
like here and there, especially like when the injury started happening.
But if he could figure it out and get on
that line, that could be pretty good. But I mean
that third line you just mentioned, I mean, if if
Gritzik comes in and he's and he's half of what
we expect him to be, and Dadanov can just do

(33:14):
what Dadanov does, that could be a dangerous, dangerous third line.
That could be a real dangerous third line. And then
give Gritzik your little time to like really get his
game together, and then you do the flip, put him
up next to Jack and then put Cotter back down
onto Uh into that third line, and you're not missing

(33:35):
a beat. That third line just gets nastier and it
gets heavier, way freaking heavier. That would be a line
that I would roll out, like, all right, boys, we
need we need to set some tempo, like we need
to go out there and we need to like bang
some bodies get into goaltender's face. Like that's a line
if you're playing the Panthers. That's a line I put
out there with Dadanov and and Uh and Cotder together.

Speaker 3 (33:58):
Mm hmm. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
So I tried to go I try to think a
little out of the box, even though I do still
have some of the regular stuff there. But I was
just like, eh, let's take pu Lot off the top line,
you know, let's let's move him off the.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
Top and who knows maybe.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Well yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
But that that's just like some of the those are
just some of the you know, combos that I was
coming up with.

Speaker 3 (34:24):
I was like, Okay, maybe you could see this.

Speaker 4 (34:25):
Happening for a game or two and then they'll probably
change it back to something else a lot smarter, but you.

Speaker 5 (34:30):
Know, maybe maybe possibly possible. Yeah, you know, and that's
going to be the I think one of the differences
about this coming seasons. We can see all these line
combos in preseason because we'll have a full preseason, Unlike
last year where we kind of got a little short
changed on preseason they couldn't really put the combos they
may have wanted together because of the trip. So uh,

(34:55):
it's it's definitely something we could potentially see. So you know,
we'll definitely find out. But yeah, I'm I'm liking those
lines he came.

Speaker 1 (35:04):
Up with there, Scotty.

Speaker 5 (35:04):
It's it's it's one of those things we're gonna see.
H R. Jacob just did something to chat that I
think everyone in the East is gonna have to ask
themselves this team against Florida and the playoffs. That's really
kind of what you're that's really what you have to
have as your benchmark, Like, how are you gonna do
against Florida because right now they are the team to be,

(35:27):
especially in the East. You know, maybe in the West
if teams are gonna say can I can we beat
Edmonton because they got there two in a row. But
I don't think Edmonton is nearly as consistently good as Florida.

Speaker 2 (35:39):
A row.

Speaker 5 (35:41):
They are scary, they are they have the potential to
be the first three P team in a while, really good. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (35:53):
I was just gonna say, that's exactly what I was
thinking when I was making these line combinations and I
put Paul Cotter up with Jasper and Jack, was that's
someone who could hit back against the Florida Panthers because
they would be trying to smack Jack and Jasper around
it all and right, that's that's part of their game.

Speaker 2 (36:11):
That's how they playing it. In the corner.

Speaker 4 (36:14):
Well, you put Paul Cotter up there too, who can
you know, put the big hits on right back.

Speaker 3 (36:20):
I mean, Hell's bells.

Speaker 4 (36:21):
He's been like tops in the league, not just on
the devils in the league, in the hits department, you know.
So yeah, that was actually the Florida Panthers. That was
part of my thinking when I when I was just.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Like, eh, maybe maybe maybe this would work. You jump
on NHL twenty five, You're like, let me put this
line Commo, and the computer says, we got smoked. Bad
show an ambulances like the old Madden game with the

(36:51):
ambulance cames on the field and runs over somebody. If
you remember those dudes.

Speaker 5 (36:56):
Welcome to opening night for the Newsery Devils, and the
season is over.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
Even's over. You know. It's wild though, like when you're
making that comparison to I mean, obviously different system, different team,
different style, But when Tampa Bay was like in the
Cup almost every year and they were going on that
that hefty run and they felt like, oh my god,
how are you gonna beat them? You got Koutrov, you
got stamp Coast, you got this, you got that Vasileski,

(37:22):
and you got this and that. It's like every time
a team emerges and it's not just like a one
and done. It's not like they won the Cup and
then they're like, yeah, they're contenders every year, but that
one year they really like the Blues, Right, the Blues
won the Cup that one year, but nobody was chasing
the Blues going like, that's the system, that's what we
need to do. The Panthers have set the bar and

(37:44):
it's almost like we were building a team to be
this fast, really shifty team and to get away from
like the old lumbering days of like of some of
the teams that were winning. But like that, you look
at what the Panthers do, It's like, yeah, they cannot.
It's not just that they're a big, heavy team and
they're gonna physically beat you up. They're a big physical team.

(38:07):
They're gonna score in bunches in some games. If you
if you don't believe that, go look at some of
the numbers they put up in the finals, in the
Eastern Finals and then also in the Stanley Cup final
where they're like putting six up. And that's and by
the way, going back to like what you said earlier
about Bobrowsky, like in some of these games, he doesn't
need to be the stand up like on his head
doing wind mills like old school bro door Hashi wah

(38:31):
type style saves. It's like he just he has to
keep it low, keep it like a two game or
two goal minimum. And I feel like if we could
start scoring at a decent clip, Marstrom doesn't have to
stand on his head. That's that's the winning recipe that
the offense needs. And fixing that bottom six was a
big key because listen, the beginning of last year was

(38:52):
great that the power player was unstoppable, but a lot
of those goals. He was, you know, superficial. It was
not a lot of five and five, so it's kind
of misleading. Yeah, and then like once did the power
places are getting solved, it was like, oh crap, Like,
oh boy, we got a big problem.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
You play.

Speaker 3 (39:10):
Scored a lot five on five, which is really good.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
And also, Steven Angle, real quick, I see you mentioning
the chance and everything like that. That's also part of
the reason why I had Plot and Mercer on that
fourth line, because they do seem when I was putting
my combos together, because they do seem the two obvious
candidates for potential of being moved. And yeah, maybe we
do fill in with some of those guys that you
were mentioning there.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Sorry shorts guy.

Speaker 5 (39:34):
Yeah, I was gonna say to your point, Beer baron
the you play completely different as a goaltender when your
team has that offensive capability and then you just need
to do your job. You and and when you not
only do they have the offensive capability, but then they're
also playing some stout defense in front of you, Like
you just have to You just have to focus on
one thing, and that's the puck. You don't have to
worry about, well, is there you guys sneaking in. You

(39:56):
know what if I let a goal is it's if
all that's taken care of, your job as a goaltender
is much easier. Where Markshamp didn't have that, and mark
Strom got frustrated a lot over the season because of
that because we didn't have that.

Speaker 1 (40:10):
And it's it's.

Speaker 5 (40:13):
If we can get that offensive clicking and and then
get back to that stout defense, we're gonna be just
fine because Markstam can do with that. And and yeah,
Bobrowski didn't have to stand on his head, but when
they needed him to make that save, he was there
to make that save. And he's there to make that
save because he's not getting strung and strung out and

(40:34):
tired out by having to make sure that he's the
reason the game is not getting out of hand. So
that's kind of what it all goes back to. If
you are not being put in that position where you
have to work the be the hardest of the six
guys that are on the ice, if if, if, if

(40:55):
you're in that place to where you can work equally
as hard as the other five guys, then you're rested
and capable of making that safe if you are the
hardest working of the six and it's nothing, but you're
getting just bombarded, bombarded, bombarded When you need to make
that other timely, when you have to make that wild

(41:16):
save mm hmm, you're not always going to be able
to do it.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
Yeah, you're gonna be worn out and and real quick
to go into something that somebody was saying, Jacob was
saying in the in the chat that Fitz has definitely
made more moves in the last years than Lou did
in thirty years. Lou did. Lou's trades. He did make
a lot of trades. You think about some of the trade,
the key trades that he made, like trading aways to

(41:43):
Kora and getting back Freezing and Langenberner. I believe in
that trade, right, nor no or is langen Berner a
different trade. I know he got freezing back in that trade,
but he it was Anaheim. Yeah, he spent to Coorra
to Anaheim and he got freezing and something else back
and then he got langen Burunner. Was te Ardowski the

(42:06):
trade to get langon Burnner.

Speaker 1 (42:10):
Wrong team, wrong team bad?

Speaker 2 (42:12):
I forget whatever. Yes, you're right, you're right. Yes, yes,
it was Randy McKay and he got.

Speaker 4 (42:21):
And and he got No, it was Arnott.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Arnott, Arnott, McKay went for uh and and Langner.

Speaker 3 (42:36):
You're right, that's what it was. Yep.

Speaker 2 (42:40):
But no. But but but the thing that's different is Lou,
especially during that time, like we didn't have the coverage
that we do now where we can look on our
phone and and see everything. Lou made a lot of
moves that were under the radar. Everything that he did
was like, you know, uncelebratory, like didn't need press conferences,
didn't need this, didn't need that. You know, he was
always a big you're know, the name on the front

(43:00):
of the jersey is way more important the name on
the back. And he would make moves sometimes that you
were like, oh whoa, Like why the hell would you
trade away this guy or that guy? And then it
ended up working out like you know, getting I mean
he got like Doug Gilmour and mcgilney. I know, Gilmore
didn't win a cup with us, but I mean there's

(43:22):
so many sneaky moves that he made that you're like, oh, okay,
Like mcgilney was a huge part of that one cup,
you know, like so I don't disagree. I feel like
there's more action in the NHL nowadays, But I will
disagree that Lou didn't make a lot of moves. Because
he did, they were just not as flashy as sometimes.

Speaker 5 (43:44):
No, That's why it was so weird when we brought
in Kovalchuk.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
Oh god, you remember that, yeah.

Speaker 1 (43:51):
Like.

Speaker 5 (43:53):
Yeah, yeah, because because it was always the team first mentality,
and all of a sudden, we're like, whoa, we have
covial Chuck, we have a we have a first overall
superstar year. Like this is like, this is nuts.

Speaker 2 (44:09):
As many times as I want to get rid of
that cold structure as the eye of hanging downstairs, I can't.

Speaker 5 (44:13):
Like I heat the guy, But I found mine. I
got my white one over here. I found mine recently.
It's that it's just, yeah.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
He broke our hearts. But let me tell you what.
He brought. A lot of joy. Oh boy, did he
bring a lot of joy. Like there was like he
was so electrifying. Anytime he had the pucket, you would
stand out of your seat because you're like, oh, what
is he gonna do? Oh man?

Speaker 5 (44:38):
So much specifically he had some kind of he he
had a he had to keep the blue line. I
think the first game I saw him live and I
wound up It's scoring because of it. It was just like, Wow,
this is great, but I'm gonna be in the minority
in this one. As much as he broke our heart,
I still would rather. I still like him more than
than Zach Parisi.

Speaker 2 (44:59):
Mm hmm, Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (45:02):
I did.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (45:04):
That's I am in the minority. I get that you're not.

Speaker 1 (45:09):
I'm I'm signor because because was.

Speaker 2 (45:16):
It because because he said like I'm definitely coming back,
and then like three days later it was like into Minnesota.

Speaker 5 (45:23):
Yeah, yeah, because because Covitruk said I'm retiring. I want
to I'm retiring for NHL. I want to go home
to Rush. And that's what he did. Zach Preesty blew
smoke up all our asks to say and I want
to be here. I want to be here. I want
to be here. Oh I meant by here to be
in Minnesota. It's like, no, don't it too.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
He took his time and all the free agents were
gone by July fourth. If you remember that.

Speaker 2 (45:46):
Let me well, let me ask you a question, Sam,
because maybe you could answer this question. Because I remember
a rumor that back when this all happened that if
the Devils and the Devil's made a run at to
try to appease uh, Perisy and to keep him there
before a suitor and him signed in Minnesota, and if

(46:09):
he would have signed in New Jersey, Perise would one
hundred percent have stayed.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
I actually haven't heard another rumor to go along with that.
What's that, No, it's appropriate for air. The rumor was,
and you know again, uh, there was some family pressure
because the Minnesota Wild hired his dad at the time
when he was still alive and the pressure was on.

(46:37):
The pressure was on, and that was the I mean,
I hate to be in his shoes and that at
that point, Like, how can you say no at that point? Yeah,
you know what I mean. So, you know, again, there's
a lot of things that go behind the scenes. The
thing with covid Chuk, you know, you hear rumors, but
I think the big rumor was, or what I heard,

(46:59):
the Devils weren't paying them, they were bankrupt. The Olympics.
His dream was to play in Russia, playing Russia, and
at the time they weren't sure if NHL players were
actually playing in the Olympics at the moment, because it
was during that that collected the the lockout. Yeah. So

(47:21):
and then he just from there he got disconnected. He's like,
you know what, it guarante guarantees me I'm beyond Team
Russia if I'm not in the NHL. Yeah, And that's
that's what I heard. But again I can't, there's.

Speaker 5 (47:35):
No but he still was up front saying I'm going,
I'm even here to go to Russia. It's it's all
the other contract stuff that's you know what, like that's
out of his control. He signed a deal. I get it,
but he's he's not the one. He's the player, is
not the one that's that's making all that. It's it's
the agent in the GM. But it's it's the whole

(47:56):
Zach Priest is saying I want to be here, I
want to be here, and then all of a sudden
he's gone.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
It's like, you don't.

Speaker 3 (48:00):
It's like.

Speaker 5 (48:04):
That's why I I I can deal with what Covichuk
did much.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
More than I can deal with what Precy did.

Speaker 5 (48:11):
I do not have the ill will against Covid Chuck
like like a lot too.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
I have the ill will against Precy.

Speaker 2 (48:18):
I hated Gomez for the long It's not until he
came back and he because he was one of my
favorite He was one of my favorite devils. Uh you
know when he was on a team, A funny dude,
like I just I just loved Gomez. And then when
he left and went to the Rangers, I was like,

(48:38):
you're dad to be like a you know, like ninety
percent of the fan base, let's say ninety nine point
nine percent of the fan base. But yeah, he but
when he came back, it kind of like took the
sting out a little bit where I didn't boo him
as hard. You know, he missed a shot and be like,
go back to go back to the Canadians, you bum.

Speaker 1 (48:59):
Actually you know did it for me? I hated him
as well. I made Gomez pesos. I was spreading, yes,
you did gomezos because he went for the money. But
when he went to when he went to Montreal, when
he meant to Montreal. What made me I'm not so
much forgive him but just let it go was when
he was on a scoreless drout street and there was

(49:22):
a website has Gomez scored yet? And it just it
just said no. So it just said no, I remember that.
I remember, and then it was like, there's how long
it's been. It's like up to like six hundred and
eighty six days or something like that. That since Gomez scored,
I was the best. That's when I just started to
chill out about Scott Gomez was like, yeah, Karma did in.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Jay Snow, I'm gonna disagree that that fits is a
horrible GM. I don't think he's a horrible GM. I
think that we expect so much and we We'll put
it this way, most of us we're born around to
your nineteen eighty two. I was born in eighty two.
I think sure this guy was eighty two, Scottie, it
was Sam I might be might be eighty.

Speaker 1 (50:10):
I'm a seventies kid.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Oh weirdo. Yeah. So we grew up with this team
as as a lot of you have, right, and we
grew up in the hard times when they were called
the Mickey Mouse Organization by Wayne Gretz.

Speaker 5 (50:25):
I still don't like Kresky because of that.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Me too, Yeah, I think, yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:32):
I think podcast I apologize to be honest.

Speaker 2 (50:36):
He should. Hey, guys, I just want to say I'm sorry,
and then we'd be like all right, good, and then
just stand the interview real quick. They think you had
Wayne Gretzky on it me like that's all we needed
to hear. I didn't need to hear anything. Just want
of your apologies.

Speaker 5 (50:51):
Yeah, move on, yeah ye but yeah, well wellanda right
there before Beer Barron can say something to put his
foot in his mouth.

Speaker 1 (51:00):
Exactly.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Hey, I could take my tarp off if you want, yes,
but anyways you could. We went through, we went through
a horrible time and then late eighties when they started
getting better. Nineties obviously when they became who they were
with Brodor and Stevens and Nita Meyer and Danko and
McKay and pluso and blah blah blah blah blah. I
can go on and on. We went to I saw

(51:23):
the stat that the Devils made the playoffs twenty three
times out of twenty five years straight. That is an
insane It was them in the Red Wings if you remember,
like at a time, like the playoff record or the
playoff consistency was there every single year and it was like, yeah,
the regular season be damned, we don't care. We'll make
the playoffs and then we'll see where we go from there.

(51:44):
We went. We went to five Cup finals in that
in that span. You know, like you they should have
beat Colorado and that in that game seven, but whatever,
actually it should they should have beat them when they
were up three to one or three to two. But
whatever they the Kings series be damned too, because that
that boarding call that ruined that whole game where I

(52:06):
was like, They're gonna make the most epic comeback of
all time. Uh, this team, we've had multitude of success
and then when we go through this this period of
futility again where they sucked for a while, but then
like you know what, they start getting better. You get
you get Nico Hescher first to overall, you get Jack
Hues first to overall, you start building something. FITZI isn't

(52:26):
a terrible GM because if you look around the league
and you see some of the other GMS that are
just throwing some of these insane contracts around, We're getting
fleeced by Chris Drury over in uh In in New York.
I mean there's guys that are running their teams straight.
Look at the Buffalo Sabers. Look at the Buffalo Sabers.

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You want to see horrible GM. Look at you look
he's done, like contract wise for the team that he
has right now, the fact that he has jacket where
he has and the fact that he has at where
he hasn't, the fact that he has all these Did
he give a bad contract away to Plot? Sure has he?
Should he have made more moves here and there? Yeah,

(53:08):
sure he should have. But he also got Tim Omeyer
at a decent price. Because if any and and and
anybody that's like, oh we gave up Sharon Goovig and
look at him now, look at Sharon Govic's last year. Yeah,
the first year he was away from the Devil's he
had a really blow up year. Last year he came
back down to earth. I don't think he's as big
as we were we kind of making him out to be.
I don't think he's great, but I don't think he's horrible.

(53:31):
So I strongly disagree with that. Elderly, we are elderly.
I'm like, we're not that far away from moving in,
Brooks said, elderly. So you people are elderly, we are

(53:53):
elder We do not.

Speaker 1 (53:54):
Agree on that. I'm about to say something, but I
probably should keep my mouth shut.

Speaker 2 (53:59):
What about be old and being close to being in
a retirement village.

Speaker 1 (54:02):
Listen, thank god, I'm not. That's all I have to say.

Speaker 2 (54:06):
Man, Yeah, we probably year get it. You Sam, listen,
and and and to kind of to kind of and Jay,
I'm not trying to go against anything that you're saying.
I don't. So you have to think about the end
of Lou's term, the end to lose term with like

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all these crazy contracts that he had, like Ryan Klow
and all these things. It was Lou was. Lou was
on this on his way out when ray Shiro was
like kind of coming in and ray Shiro started to
like piece his team together. But then ray Shiro was like,
we need to try to win now too, and was
like doing crazy moves too. Fitzgerald took over a team
that was fundamentally flawed in so many different areas. And

(54:53):
if you look at what he's got Brett Paschali on
the blue line, he's got he's made some pretty decent moves.
He's got Timo Meyer, He's put some pieces together. Is
it taking longer than we want? For sure? Yes, have
we you know, But once again, dude, look at like Buffalo,
look at like some of these other teams around the League,

(55:13):
Like there's look at Anaheim, look at just like, if
you think what we have is bad, you look at
what some of these other teams are going through and
you're like, it's not that bad that Sometimes grass isn't
as green as it is as you think it is.
On the other.

Speaker 5 (55:26):
Side, I I would. I know someone that is a
Buffalo fan and it's like, oh, I feel so bad,
like with the crap that he's got to deal with.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
It's like, well, it's the entire city. They don't win anything.
I know, they literally don't win anything. And I and
you know, I feel bad for Buffalo Bills fans. I know, Uh,
Andrew Bunan is one.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Sorry they won the division.

Speaker 1 (55:59):
Yeah, the only the only thing good about Buffalo are
their wings. That's it. That's it.

Speaker 2 (56:05):
You said that was such conviction too. They won a division.

Speaker 1 (56:08):
Watch what you're watch your mouth.

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Okay, they're trying up there, They're really trying. It's not
their fault. They can't beat Kermit the Frog. You know,
I root I root for the Bills. I'm a Giants fan,
but I root for the I root for the Bills,
like whenever they're in the playoffs. I like Josh Allen's
the man. I love that team, Like I think they're awesome,
but like, uh but yeah, they don't win anything. But

(56:33):
like in hockey sense, like the crazy stat obviously it
hasn't been the same GM, but if you look at
there was a during the Stanley Cup Finals, there was
a stat that popped up in it was like the
last like six or seven Stanley Cup Final teams have
had a piece of a Buffalo Sabers team that has
been an integral part they're winning, like Ryan Hart and

(56:58):
I mean you could literally go down the list. Jack
Eichel over in Vegas, like you look at.

Speaker 3 (57:03):
Like the Miami Marlins of hockey.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
Basically, yeah, they're a great farm teams. They're a great farm.

Speaker 3 (57:10):
Standing Yeah and Yelli, you know, like they're all there.

Speaker 2 (57:13):
You're like, wait, they were all on the Marlins at
one point?

Speaker 3 (57:16):
What the hell? Like why did they trade everybody?

Speaker 2 (57:19):
All Mark? Yeah, there's a lot of dudes that were
like if you there's I forget what it was. Yeah,
when I was still there, they had a team that
was stacked. They had a team that Yeah, now Omark
couldn't do anything, but Omark was is now like he
back then he was not as good, and I think
that was one of their biggest downfalls. If they had
if they had him as like a backup, and they
had like a decent number one back, then that team

(57:42):
could have run shot through this league. They had so
much unbelievable Oh yeah, but if I think, I think,
I'm pretty sure. Like even on defense, they had like
a pretty stacked blue line. I forget what year it is.
Somebody's got to look it up, but there's like a
picture of it and you could see like the starting
line up and you're like, no, that's pretending. That's nobody.

(58:03):
That's not real. That's an NHL. Like that's somebody who's
playing GM on their computer. There's no way that was there.
Right old Buffalo Buffalo will buffalo themselves right into, uh,
right out of the place.

Speaker 4 (58:18):
I feel like, I feel like that's what Sam Wu
does for entertainment most of the time, because I know
everyone in Buffalo wants the owners.

Speaker 3 (58:24):
To sell the team and everything, and we know Sam Wu.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
Loves a good you know, uh owner getting called out
and uh, you know, being looked at it.

Speaker 1 (58:33):
I love, I actually love the owner of the Buffalo
SA former president.

Speaker 3 (58:38):
Never mind, never mind, I spoke.

Speaker 5 (58:40):
To Yeah, the Pagoulas they paid for that rink to
get people, and we.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Got Gavin McKenna. We got Gavin McKenna Penn State ice hockey,
which is.

Speaker 2 (58:52):
Oh, you know what, that's it. Thank you for bringing
that up, because I want to bring that. Talk about
that for a second. He's getting a seventy or seventy
two or no. Seven hund undred and twenty thousand dollars
contract of go play with Penn State, and a lot
of people are like, oh man, this is this is
not good because this is going to start screwing with
the OHL and like some of those leagues that are
like the all.

Speaker 1 (59:11):
Come to Penn State. That's it. That's all you need
to know.

Speaker 2 (59:15):
Well, okay, besides you saying screw them and they're all
coming to Penn State in your honest opinion, take Penn
State out of the equation there, Mister Nitney Lyon, do
you think it's these nils because for college football it
doesn't really matter right For college football, it's like, yeah,
where else are they going to go play? And it
just becomes like a discussion of like, well, then you're
building powerhouses because this team has more money and blah

(59:37):
blah blah blah blah. But for for hockey, it's different
because hockey, it's like kids have so many different avenues
that they can go and there's a fear that it
could like destroy some of these leagues because it's gonna
take some of the top talent away. Do you think
it would be an issue?

Speaker 1 (59:52):
I can answer this. This is just my opinion. In
my opinion only. It does not reflect the podcast Scottie
Shorts Guy and Beer Barn, But this is my opinion.
The OI cl and the Major Juniors has been screwing
with the n C Double A for so many years. Okay,
throwing them always had advantage, can pay off kids, get

(01:00:16):
them plucked down his class and going into their elitues
for so many years. Now it's an even playing field
right now, and you know what, let let the best
league win.

Speaker 2 (01:00:30):
And do you think this is gonna set a trend? Though?
Do you think this is gonna you're gonna start to
see college hockey taking more of a steps because because
if you look at it, if you look at it,
like college hockey has been pretty damn strong without needing
to do this, right, you look at you have a
ton of great programs, and you have programs that you know,
like Quinnipiac, and you have Deluthe that are not big

(01:00:55):
name schools like you would see in football, that are
still able to win Champi ships and they're still able to,
you know, compete in a frozen four. So I always
thought college hockey was a more balanced balanced because they're
still dominance here in there.

Speaker 5 (01:01:10):
But so here's here's here's how college hockey was, and
it's gonna change now obviously with all of this new stuff.
Especially when I was there, playing college hockey was where
you went when you age out of juniors and you
did not get drafted. So you had you had guys
coming in at as a freshman twenty one, twenty two

(01:01:32):
years old because they were good enough to get a
college scholarship, but they were not good enough to get drafted.
So they were able to at least play out their
next four years to continue to play hockey, get a degree,
and then go do whatever it is they're going to do.
That I think is going to be a big, big,
big boom for the for the for college hockey because

(01:01:53):
kids are now going to start coming here instead of
going to juniors first. Because unless you were. It was
a Americans that were going to college at eighteen nineteen whatever.
But all the all the really good Canadians, we're going
to juniors playing out their junior career and then college
was the backup plan. So also it's gonna be a big,

(01:02:16):
big deal.

Speaker 1 (01:02:17):
Also, I'm gonna make I'm gonna make a prediction. You
can you can question me twenty five years from now.

Speaker 5 (01:02:23):
Okay, if the NC Double A.

Speaker 1 (01:02:26):
Because you know, college hockey gets bigger, you know now
you can now it's an even uh playing field with
all these leagues. I expect women's ice hockey to flourish
because if you have men's ice hockey and NC Double
A title nine has, you've got to have women's ice
hockey as well. Both programs are gonna be infused with

(01:02:49):
cash and I think both men and women's professional ice
hockey will flourish twenty five years from now because of
this whole nil everything that's gone on. That's my prediction.

Speaker 2 (01:03:04):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (01:03:05):
Okay, yeah, because back back in the day, back at
Penn State, there was there was no women's team because
of wrestling, Penn State ice hockey and obviously football. There
was no balance because of title nine. So what happened
was it was just club level. It wasn't until the
Pougoul has put eighty four million dollars down because a

(01:03:28):
fracking that that you had both. You had both both
men's and women's. And look at the women's team, and
look at women's hockey right now. Just like how the
w NBA is growing, it's also grown hockey with with
the with the women leagues. So that's why I think,

(01:03:50):
you know, and you know, o John all that you know,
for years the n cua A got hosed because they
could offer money, but they could. But now now suddenly
CLEA and Penn State, you know, now they have more money.
Now they can just completely you know, obliterate them.

Speaker 5 (01:04:08):
I'm I am so happy that I started getting back
into watching college hockey and specifically where I went Sacred
Heart Brooke and I went up there last year. I
feel like it's just gonna be getting better and better
and I'm excited for that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:23):
Well, boys, I think it's about that time for the
final thought. Mm hmm, well I guess I'll go first. Yeah,
take the the old mantle in that one. Listen, it's
it's it's a slow summer, but If you think it's
just slow for the Devil's just take a look around
the NHL. There's not a lot of action going on

(01:04:44):
right now. Pretty typical. You have the you know, July
first comes around, you get a lot of free agent movement,
you get this and that, you get the draft. Then
after that everything kind of just kind of settles into place.
So for everybody that's calling for these big trades, for
everybody that's pounding its table and saying that things aren't
happening the way they should be happening, it is not
just us. It is it is around the league. Everybody

(01:05:06):
is just kind of in a holding pattern. This usually
typically happens around this time of year because there's just
not a lot going on. A lot of guys are
away on vacation, a lot of guys are kind of
away from the game. You know, the World Championships are
over all the stuff that's you know, guys are playing
after the season and all that stuff has finally calmed down.
A lot of surgeries are happening, Stanley Cup Finals, all

(01:05:27):
that kind of stuff. So now that everything's settling down,
you'll see a little a little lull. And then in
the beginning of September. Usually maybe in you know, get
a shock or surprise in mid August, like when Covidchuck
initially signed that crazy contract. But for the most part,
don't be surprised if you don't see anything happening for
the next couple of weeks. But that said, it doesn't

(01:05:48):
matter because you can still come here and listen to
us and banter about the nothingness. Anybody else, you guys
just like, yeah, I'm usually the last.

Speaker 3 (01:06:01):
Yeah, I'll just say that. You know, I think Fitzy
has been.

Speaker 4 (01:06:05):
Doing a pretty good job this offseason. You know, it's
not just Brown and Dan and Off, it's you know,
Jake Allen as well. It's bringing back Cody Glass. It's
not just coming back with the same exact, exact bottom
six that didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Work out last year.

Speaker 4 (01:06:25):
So there there have been a lot of changes made
with this team so far, and I do believe that.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
I mean, we've all heard the rumors and everything.

Speaker 4 (01:06:34):
You know, Quinn is Quinn at some point is on
his way, But we gotta we gotta sign Luke too.
And to do that, I think it's gonna cost you
a little bit more than you have in the pot
right now. In the old salary cap department, So don't
be surprised to see some moves made.

Speaker 3 (01:06:54):
A lot. If they can. I don't know if they can.

Speaker 4 (01:06:56):
But Dougie Dawson, Mercer, those are two names that are
gonna be a lot more enticing to people I set
up before as well, Nico Dawes. If they really feel that,
you know he's gonna get stuck in waivers, do not
lose him for nothing. Do not let him be glamed,
you know, by some other team and just lose him

(01:07:18):
for nothing. So we do have some other good goaltenders
in the pipeline, this wouldn't be the biggest thing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:25):
Remember when we traded Akira Spindeer, was like, oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:07:31):
Yeah, didn't turn out to be that big of a deal,
especially now when you got Jacob Snake and Marks from
there ready to go.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
So I think FITZI has been doing a pretty good job.

Speaker 4 (01:07:44):
Excited to see what the next move is because I
think it'll involve some sort of trade and then the
signing of one Luke Hues, So very excited to.

Speaker 3 (01:07:54):
See what that's all about.

Speaker 4 (01:07:57):
And thank you Ozzie Osborne who forever is still here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
Look, it's a good question I will be here. I
should be home, I should be here, but the phone
we can can, yeah, we can.

Speaker 1 (01:08:10):
All right, So we'll have a podcast next week, all right,
yeah yeah, all right, yeah, so I'm looking for the
button right now.

Speaker 5 (01:08:22):
Sorry, guys, the best of the game for nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:08:28):
Alright, man, uh.

Speaker 5 (01:08:33):
What was awkward Buker's name image league?

Speaker 2 (01:08:38):
Oh God, Harry Doyle, Harry Doyle, Harry Doyle. I can't
see god damn in the air, not like anybody anyway.

Speaker 4 (01:08:47):
There's no one's listening, alright or the jack.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
One hit, ye one goddamn hit. That's all we got.

Speaker 1 (01:08:57):
Well, thank all those tuning in, dropping the podcast at midnight.
Until next time, Let's go doubles.