July 16, 2025 • 22 mins
The swamp still exists! But at least it is a better swamp now than it was for the last few years. It is hard to ignore the Jeffrey Epstein lies, the Covid abuses, the ongoing Ukraine corruption, and the gutting of DOGE.
But at least Ron DeSantis has presented a possible escape. Just convince Elon Musk to lead an effort for a balanced budget amendment.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
You're listening to the podcast Coffee with Mike and Julie
Libertarians Talk Psychology. This is current commentary from an NBA
businessman and a PhD psychologist.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
My topic for today is nothing to see and for
you and me, that brings to mind the episode of
Naked Gun with Leslie Nielsen where he hilariously says there's
nothing to see here. And what I'm really getting around
to is that we have had The Biden administration was
(00:40):
loaded with nothing to see here and cover ups, and
that was terrible. But now even with the Trump administration,
there is stuff that is nothing to see here that's
kind of disappointing. It's still a hell of a lot
better than the Biden administration was, so it wasn't as
if we had much choice. But I want to start
(01:00):
off with the comedy from Naked Gun. This is where
Leslie Nielsen is in a car. There's a car wreck,
the car hits a gas storage truck, which turns into
a guy riding a military missile right into a fireworks factory.
It's funny, he's hilarious. He always looks a limous.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
That's a surprise.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
All right.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Here. You know what's also funny, is how similar that
was to the reporter the riots and I don't know
where it was.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, it was almost.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Just like, there's nothing to see here, mostly peaceful dumpster
fire raging in the back of it, fire.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
In the background. Yeah, that was pretty funny.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I mean it was it was so similar to the scene.
I'm sure everybody made hay out.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Of that, and the Biden administration was loaded with that stuff.
But I want to point out that, in fact, maybe
this is a good time to point it out, there's
some things that are just a distraction. You have nothing
to see here, but do really care. I mean, for example,
the Biden mental decline. We're making such a big deal
about that, but everybody who was watching.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Television, anybody would send.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, we all knew the guy was when.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
They voted him in. It was so they vot a
senile old man.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, we didn't have to wait until that debate to
see it. It's odd four years before.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
It is very very interesting how they assume the average
person didn't see everybody has a grandparent.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
And they're still going after that. But I'm saying that
is a distraction from the real stuff that they do,
where they tell us there's nothing to see here, like
when people die from all the COVID over whatever prescription
of COVID drugs.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Or well, this makes me think of Scott Adams as
a list and I keep wanting to capture that and
I don't do it. But he has a list of
things you're never going to know, like the Epstein client lists. Well,
I mean with that list of things you're never going
to know about, he's the master of calling out to
see and.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
That does bring me to my disappointment.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I mean, at least you're not having heartbreak. It's just
a level of disappointment today. No, it's not the level
of a heartbreak.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, I got to make the distinction because this is
so much better than what we had before and where
we were headed if we didn't change.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Trump is transparent, the guy is transparent. Well, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I've got to disagree with you there.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I'm not sure if all his cabinet level people are
cooperating with transparency. I mean, when they tell him we
can't say it, I'm sure he goes along with it.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I mean, just disagree with you, man, this Epstein thing.
To say that he's transparent about the Epstein thing is
a complete fabrication. I mean, that is so ridiculous. It
doesn't even deserve the airtime they give the Epstein stuff,
because it is so ridiculous to everybody that there really was,
(04:47):
that they're covering it up, and they're trying to say
there's nothing to see here. Trump included when all these
people were making hay about it before the election. And
now that the election is over with and they've got
to expose some of their friends for letting smiling teenage
girls give them back rubs or whatever they did with
(05:08):
these teenage girls, they can't expose these guys anymore. And
it's worldwide too, It didn't just our country. Yeah, this
was a big black male operation, and they ought to
just say that. They ought to say it and say, look,
it's too big a deal. We've got to spend our
time on stuff that's more important. People are actually dying.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I agree with you on that it was obviously a
big black male deal. It was obviously worldwide. It had
intelligence written all over it. It was you know, the
guy was a master spy of some sort. And I
think he was murdered, oh hell yeah. And they keep
trying to pawn that off as of suicide.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
And they keep distracting this with well he wasn't really murdered,
that him in his jail cell really did fail. I mean,
that wasn't. Come on.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I don't even like nineteen eighty four, like the Big
Brother is telling you what to believe. Sooner or later
you might believe it. I agree with you, you know,
I think there's a.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Lot that's the most obvious one that they're lying to us.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
It does seem obvious.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
And this is some real heroes, Pam Bondi Cash, Pateel, Pete,
Haigseth and Donald Trump all telling us there's nothing to see.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Here in what subject? Epstein, Epstein, Epstein.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, they just had a big announcement about it, and
come home. Don't insult me like this. I wish they'd
just say, look, it's too big a deal over pedophilia.
It's pedophilia is bad, but it's not as bad as
people dying. And we've got to put our energy into
stopping the stuff where people are killed. And if they
just tell me that, I could accept it. You know,
(06:51):
the thing about Biden's mental decline, Okay, that's bad, but
we as a country voted that.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
In that's so obvious. With obvious.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
We did it, no.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
One need Yeah, and they covered for him.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah. And now if you want.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
That's like, how can you cover up something that's so obvious?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Now, if you want to get into the corruption that
got us sucked into Afghanistan and Ukraine, then I'd be
interested in putting some effort into that because people died
from that, And there's obvious Biden family corruption with Ukraine.
It's obvious. And we keep pretending, oh, there's nothing to that.
(07:32):
That was you know, you're just being silly and come on,
but people died with that. So to me, that's important.
The COVID stuff, the lawfair that they did during the
Biden administration, and even continuing now to try to change
the direction of the country. I mean, maybe you could
say that people aren't dying because of the lawfair, but
(07:53):
it's pretty damant.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Lawfair against Trump.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Against Trump and the political enemies.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Well, they've crushed Juliani. Yeah, you never hear from him
because they completely demolished.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, he demolished himself when he had that makeup dripping
down his cheek. You could never take him sip that.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
They demolished him.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Besides that, Okay, So now I want to get to
the recent Rond de Santis comments.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I was wondering if you were going to talk about that.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, because there is stuff going on that is worth mentioning,
and all this stuff about, you know, getting upset about
stuff that doesn't really matter, like Jeffrey Epstein. To me,
that doesn't really matter that people weren't dying from there,
but it is corruption in our government. But Rohnda Santis
brought up Elon Musk, and he did a great job
(08:45):
of talking about Elon Musk and the possibility of a
third party. In other words, they're still talking about trying
to straighten out the system, which is really important. I
thought that was good and I want to go ahead
and play that because it's important and it's where we're headed.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
The problem is when you do another party, especially if
you're running on some of the issues that he talks about,
you know that would end up if he funds Senate
candidates and House candidates and competitive races, that would likely
end up meaning the Democrats would win all the competitive
Senate and House races. And so look, I'm a Republican.
You know I don't want to see that happen. I
(09:23):
think if you want to you know, get get involved
in hold accountable. You know, we do have a problem
in the Republican Party with these DC congressmen. They always
run saying there's out of control spending and they're going
to spend less, and they never do it. And so
there's a gap between the campaign rhetoric and then the performance.
Elon was doing Doge and a lot of Congress didn't
(09:45):
want anything to do with actually adopting the Doge cuts,
just like they didn't want to They haven't want to
adopt the Trump executive orders on immigration and all these
other things, which I think you have to adopt in
law if you want them to have staying power. So
I think there is a lot of frustration with the
gap between the rhetoric and their district and the performance
(10:06):
once they get into DC. But the way you do
that is exposed that in a primary and show that
there's another way forward. Honestly, if you're concerned about the debt,
I wouldn't even worry about that because I don't think
just electing a few better people is going to change
your trajectory. We need the incentives in Washington are going
(10:26):
to lead to these outcomes. Really, regardless of the outcome
of elections at this point. So you need to do
a balanced budget amendment to the US Constitution, and you
can do that through the states. You can do it
through Article five. We've got twenty eight states that have
approved this. There's another four or five that are on
the docket. Once you hit thirty four, then you write
(10:47):
an amendment and then the states are able to ratify that.
You need three quarters. You know, if Elon wanted to
weigh in on that and work on those state legens,
I mean, he would have a monumental impact on doing it.
And we also need term limits for members of Congress,
and so you can do both of those things.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Okay, we liked that right well.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I remember Matt Gets talked about that on Tim Poole
and he was very convincing that that was the only way.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
To change the balance budget.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Aments balance budget a minute, and term limits. He said,
the corruption just goes so deep. There's just no way
to change it unless you change the incentives term limits.
The thing about that people are bought and sold by
the lobbyist. Right until you have term limits, you can't
change that.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
And I've got to bring up the Jeffrey Epstein thing
because Jeffrey Epstein is not the only guy who pushes
sex ring behavior with our important people in our country
and the across the world. I mean, Jeffrey Epstein may
be dead, but that's something that's going on in the background,
in addition to the flow of money going to buddies,
(11:58):
you know, people's friends.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah, I even saw that in Louisiana. Just to remind you.
Oh yeah, I was the first female page, female runner
in the House of Representatives.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It was really nasty place to work. There was shit
going on all over the place, and that it did
have to do.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
You've got to tell me more. Okay, So you were
nineteen or so and because of a guy from your
part of Louisiana, he got you to be a page.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
And he was the firstl Joe, my uncle Joe was
the secretary to the Secretary of State, and he got
me in as an applicant. It wasn't called a page.
It was called a page in the Senate, but it
was called something else in the House of Representatives. And
I can't remember what it was called. I'm gonna call
it a page. So David Pointer was the work of
the House. So Uncle Joe took me to see David Pointer,
(12:52):
and he said, well, we don't have any female pages.
But I don't see why we can't have them now
because the reason they didn't have female pages this is
so funny. It's because females were required to wear skirts
and you had to go run and get a bill
for a legislation going to tell you that, and you
(13:16):
had to climb a ladder and people could see under
your skirt. So females were denied that job because of
a clothing requirement. So they automated the bills that year,
and they had an automated you no longer had to
climb a ladder to get a bill. And then David Pointer,
so I don't see why we can't have female pages.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
So you're the first female page. And so what kind
of stuff did you see? You said you saw all
kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Well, there were so many after hours parties. Now I
was not invited. I was clearly tagged.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
As they spotted you pretty quickly.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
It spotted me pretty quick as being these virginal Catholics,
I wasn't selling it and they could tell I wasn't
selling it. But there were plenty of women.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
That were sure.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
It was all power dynamics. There were parties that went on.
I didn't go to anything.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
You weren't invited.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I don't know if I would have tried to go,
whether I could have gone, but I didn't try. I
was scared of it. It was too much power.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Did your uncle Joe consult, you know, give you a
little guidance all matter.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I don't remember if he did or not. But I
felt I was protected, you know, people were protecting me
from too much information. But you could tell it was
going on. There were games going on. There were power
games going on, there were sexual games going on. There
was a drinking partying. They didn't do as much work
(14:46):
as they let on.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And probably in the back of that, when it got
carried away enough, there was probably blackmail going on.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Well that's the point. Corruption goes one direction. A little
bit of sleazy turns into more slazy, turns into more slazy.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Now this is Louisiana, which Louisiana is probably a little
more corrupt than other states, but.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
It's usually in the top five.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, but it's a good example of how the corruption
system works.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Well, power corrupts.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I'm glad you brought that up. That was good. Well,
this thing about.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I just think it's funny we're going to make a
rule women have to wear skirts, and then we're going
to deny them a job because they're wearing skirts.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Well, it wasn't but a couple of years before you
went to LSU that the girls had to wear skirts LSU. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
When I got the LSU, that was over too, right, but.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Not by far. Yeah, just a couple of years before
you went there.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I'll tell you what that page job was. I only
kept it for one session. Yeah, not even the whole session.
It was murder. I had to be there. I had
to get up at four in the morning. I mean,
and I'm like nineteen. Yeah, I had to get up
at four in the morning and get there at five
or six. And you had to stay late. Most nights,
(16:05):
you had to stay till ten. I would be driving
back and forth from LSU to the capital in the
dark twice a day, not getting a sleep. But then
I quit that job and got a job at Learners.
Do you remember this. I got a job at Learner's
clothing store downtown. Bat murs. It was maybe worse.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Oh is this the black white stuff?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
It was every other clerk in the store was black.
And it was in a black community, and I was discuminated. Again.
I was not cheerfully.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
They were not happy campers to have me there.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Now, when you say every other you were one of
the only white workers there.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I don't remember if I was the only white girl
in the store. The manager was white. Okay, I didn't
have any friends and that, but they were not friendly.
They were not friendly to me. And I remember that woman,
that black woman let me have it. I was afraid
of her. She let me have it. You know how
(17:10):
black women can really really get you. That Chris Rock
has that shows like how to Not get beat up
by the police. He has that clip where he says,
don't take a mad black woman with you. Well, that's
what that woman she gave me. I don't know what
I did to offender. Probably horned in on her territory
(17:31):
somehow and didn't know it. But it was so unpleasant
that I called Daddy and told him about it, and
he said, quit, come home, milk the cows. And I quit.
And boy, the managers was mad because I didn't give
any notice. I just said I quit. Yeah, what a relief.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Well one time period in your life. Well, kids, were
at least the legislators were friendly.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, they were friendly. I was a nineteen year old merchant,
ever very friendly. I see that now. I had no
idea at the time what was going on. I was
totally naive person. I think I've been a naive person
the whole life.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Teenage girls have no idea how the whole male society
is watching their every true true.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
They don't understand the mindset of a male society.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Right, So it's easy to see how Jeffrey Epstein, how
that could happen.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah, how he exploited and manipulated those teenagers.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
And it's obvious that the whole cover up thing there's
a complete lie. And I don't even care to watch
people defended on television. I mean, don't waste my time.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Sorry to get off tracks.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
No, no, I enjoyed that. I don't think I have
anything else to comment on. Well, let me just go
down The thing with Rohn decentis is that I do
completely agree with Rhandacentis. And by the way, that was
high quality stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
That guy, well very presidential advance, is going to have
a run for his money with desantas well.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
You know, I would vote for someone who's in favor
of an amendment like that, whether it's JD. Vance or
Ron DeSantis, I will be disappointed if they don't get
it done, because that is a correction to the system
that we really need. But I really like that, and
he is correct that Elon Musk is one of the
few people that can make this happen.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I didn't understand until he said it on the clip
that twenty eight states had approved it and all you
need was thirty four to put it on the ballot.
But then you need three quarters of the states to
approve amendment. We're in a time in this country where
that might actually work. Like the Maga movement, people are
waking up to how much corruption government is involved in.
(19:46):
I mean we are started in awakening. Yeah, a lot
of people are learning a lot about their government that
they didn't know before.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
And that's why it's such a disappointment to pass the
big beautiful bill, which totally ignores the problem with the budget,
but it does offer the promise of hey, this is
so good that our economy is going to be good
in the future, and then maybe.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
We can pass Well, there's the trick. You wouldn't have
been able to get re elected if you tried to
pass Trump and MAGA, the America First Movement would have
committed suicide by trying to pass that instead of the
options he was doing. I mean, you have to well
to plan this out as a chess strategy.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Well, I wish they had said that, but they didn't
say that. What they said was we're going to get
rid of the federal deficit. I mean, they were making
promises about how they were going to fix things, and
then when they got when they got in there, they
I didn't know what they did at all.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I hadn't heard that the theme from Trump that he
was going to fix the deficit. I heard it mentioned
that it was a problem, but I hadn't heard it
as a campaign slogan that he was going to fix
the deficit.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
He said a lot of things. You can't really hould
apology every one of them.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
But the thing about well your topic today that's so
good is that it gives me hope that we are
on the right trajectory for getting that done. That what
the two elements Ron desantus the Amendment to the Constitution
about working with a balanced budget and term limits.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
It's pretty damn disappointing that we got our hopes up
with Elon Musk and Doze and then the big beautiful
Bill just killed that whole thing. I mean it's gone.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I'm not sure that's correct, and.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Well it's pretty Let me just say it's disappointing to watch,
and I predict when people bring it up it's going
to be the same old thing. There's nothing to see here. Yes,
Dooze no longer is doing much and there's nothing to
see here. Okay, that's just the way of the world.
So that's disappointing. But my hope is with the Rhonda
(21:52):
Santis strategy of someone like Elon Musk leading an effort
to a balance budget.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
Ammer, I'm Donavana long
You're listening to the podcast Coffee with Mike and Julie
Libertarians Talk Psychology. This is current commentary from an NBA
businessman and a PhD psychologist.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
My topic for today is nothing to see and for
you and me, that brings to mind the episode of
Naked Gun with Leslie Nielsen where he hilariously says there's
nothing to see here. And what I'm really getting around
to is that we have had The Biden administration was
(00:40):
loaded with nothing to see here and cover ups, and
that was terrible. But now even with the Trump administration,
there is stuff that is nothing to see here that's
kind of disappointing. It's still a hell of a lot
better than the Biden administration was, so it wasn't as
if we had much choice. But I want to start
(01:00):
off with the comedy from Naked Gun. This is where
Leslie Nielsen is in a car. There's a car wreck,
the car hits a gas storage truck, which turns into
a guy riding a military missile right into a fireworks factory.
It's funny, he's hilarious. He always looks a limous.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
That's a surprise.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
All right.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Here. You know what's also funny, is how similar that
was to the reporter the riots and I don't know
where it was.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, it was almost.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
Just like, there's nothing to see here, mostly peaceful dumpster
fire raging in the back of it, fire.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
In the background. Yeah, that was pretty funny.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
I mean it was it was so similar to the scene.
I'm sure everybody made hay out.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Of that, and the Biden administration was loaded with that stuff.
But I want to point out that, in fact, maybe
this is a good time to point it out, there's
some things that are just a distraction. You have nothing
to see here, but do really care. I mean, for example,
the Biden mental decline. We're making such a big deal
about that, but everybody who was watching.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Television, anybody would send.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Yeah, we all knew the guy was when.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
They voted him in. It was so they vot a
senile old man.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
Yeah, we didn't have to wait until that debate to
see it. It's odd four years before.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
It is very very interesting how they assume the average
person didn't see everybody has a grandparent.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
And they're still going after that. But I'm saying that
is a distraction from the real stuff that they do,
where they tell us there's nothing to see here, like
when people die from all the COVID over whatever prescription
of COVID drugs.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
Or well, this makes me think of Scott Adams as
a list and I keep wanting to capture that and
I don't do it. But he has a list of
things you're never going to know, like the Epstein client lists. Well,
I mean with that list of things you're never going
to know about, he's the master of calling out to
see and.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
That does bring me to my disappointment.
Speaker 3 (03:54):
I mean, at least you're not having heartbreak. It's just
a level of disappointment today. No, it's not the level
of a heartbreak.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
Well, I got to make the distinction because this is
so much better than what we had before and where
we were headed if we didn't change.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Trump is transparent, the guy is transparent. Well, I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I've got to disagree with you there.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I'm not sure if all his cabinet level people are
cooperating with transparency. I mean, when they tell him we
can't say it, I'm sure he goes along with it.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
I mean, just disagree with you, man, this Epstein thing.
To say that he's transparent about the Epstein thing is
a complete fabrication. I mean, that is so ridiculous. It
doesn't even deserve the airtime they give the Epstein stuff,
because it is so ridiculous to everybody that there really was,
(04:47):
that they're covering it up, and they're trying to say
there's nothing to see here. Trump included when all these
people were making hay about it before the election. And
now that the election is over with and they've got
to expose some of their friends for letting smiling teenage
girls give them back rubs or whatever they did with
(05:08):
these teenage girls, they can't expose these guys anymore. And
it's worldwide too, It didn't just our country. Yeah, this
was a big black male operation, and they ought to
just say that. They ought to say it and say, look,
it's too big a deal. We've got to spend our
time on stuff that's more important. People are actually dying.
Speaker 3 (05:28):
I agree with you on that it was obviously a
big black male deal. It was obviously worldwide. It had
intelligence written all over it. It was you know, the
guy was a master spy of some sort. And I
think he was murdered, oh hell yeah. And they keep
trying to pawn that off as of suicide.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
And they keep distracting this with well he wasn't really murdered,
that him in his jail cell really did fail. I mean,
that wasn't. Come on.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
I don't even like nineteen eighty four, like the Big
Brother is telling you what to believe. Sooner or later
you might believe it. I agree with you, you know,
I think there's a.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Lot that's the most obvious one that they're lying to us.
Speaker 3 (06:14):
It does seem obvious.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
And this is some real heroes, Pam Bondi Cash, Pateel, Pete,
Haigseth and Donald Trump all telling us there's nothing to see.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Here in what subject? Epstein, Epstein, Epstein.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
Yeah, they just had a big announcement about it, and
come home. Don't insult me like this. I wish they'd
just say, look, it's too big a deal over pedophilia.
It's pedophilia is bad, but it's not as bad as
people dying. And we've got to put our energy into
stopping the stuff where people are killed. And if they
just tell me that, I could accept it. You know,
(06:51):
the thing about Biden's mental decline, Okay, that's bad, but
we as a country voted that.
Speaker 3 (06:57):
In that's so obvious. With obvious.
Speaker 2 (07:00):
We did it, no.
Speaker 3 (07:01):
One need Yeah, and they covered for him.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah. And now if you want.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
That's like, how can you cover up something that's so obvious?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Now, if you want to get into the corruption that
got us sucked into Afghanistan and Ukraine, then I'd be
interested in putting some effort into that because people died
from that, And there's obvious Biden family corruption with Ukraine.
It's obvious. And we keep pretending, oh, there's nothing to that.
(07:32):
That was you know, you're just being silly and come on,
but people died with that. So to me, that's important.
The COVID stuff, the lawfair that they did during the
Biden administration, and even continuing now to try to change
the direction of the country. I mean, maybe you could
say that people aren't dying because of the lawfair, but
(07:53):
it's pretty damant.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Lawfair against Trump.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Against Trump and the political enemies.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Well, they've crushed Juliani. Yeah, you never hear from him
because they completely demolished.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, he demolished himself when he had that makeup dripping
down his cheek. You could never take him sip that.
Speaker 3 (08:12):
They demolished him.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Besides that, Okay, So now I want to get to
the recent Rond de Santis comments.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
I was wondering if you were going to talk about that.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, because there is stuff going on that is worth mentioning,
and all this stuff about, you know, getting upset about
stuff that doesn't really matter, like Jeffrey Epstein. To me,
that doesn't really matter that people weren't dying from there,
but it is corruption in our government. But Rohnda Santis
brought up Elon Musk, and he did a great job
(08:45):
of talking about Elon Musk and the possibility of a
third party. In other words, they're still talking about trying
to straighten out the system, which is really important. I
thought that was good and I want to go ahead
and play that because it's important and it's where we're headed.
Speaker 4 (09:01):
The problem is when you do another party, especially if
you're running on some of the issues that he talks about,
you know that would end up if he funds Senate
candidates and House candidates and competitive races, that would likely
end up meaning the Democrats would win all the competitive
Senate and House races. And so look, I'm a Republican.
You know I don't want to see that happen. I
(09:23):
think if you want to you know, get get involved
in hold accountable. You know, we do have a problem
in the Republican Party with these DC congressmen. They always
run saying there's out of control spending and they're going
to spend less, and they never do it. And so
there's a gap between the campaign rhetoric and then the performance.
Elon was doing Doge and a lot of Congress didn't
(09:45):
want anything to do with actually adopting the Doge cuts,
just like they didn't want to They haven't want to
adopt the Trump executive orders on immigration and all these
other things, which I think you have to adopt in
law if you want them to have staying power. So
I think there is a lot of frustration with the
gap between the rhetoric and their district and the performance
(10:06):
once they get into DC. But the way you do
that is exposed that in a primary and show that
there's another way forward. Honestly, if you're concerned about the debt,
I wouldn't even worry about that because I don't think
just electing a few better people is going to change
your trajectory. We need the incentives in Washington are going
(10:26):
to lead to these outcomes. Really, regardless of the outcome
of elections at this point. So you need to do
a balanced budget amendment to the US Constitution, and you
can do that through the states. You can do it
through Article five. We've got twenty eight states that have
approved this. There's another four or five that are on
the docket. Once you hit thirty four, then you write
(10:47):
an amendment and then the states are able to ratify that.
You need three quarters. You know, if Elon wanted to
weigh in on that and work on those state legens,
I mean, he would have a monumental impact on doing it.
And we also need term limits for members of Congress,
and so you can do both of those things.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Okay, we liked that right well.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
I remember Matt Gets talked about that on Tim Poole
and he was very convincing that that was the only way.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
To change the balance budget.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
Aments balance budget a minute, and term limits. He said,
the corruption just goes so deep. There's just no way
to change it unless you change the incentives term limits.
The thing about that people are bought and sold by
the lobbyist. Right until you have term limits, you can't
change that.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
And I've got to bring up the Jeffrey Epstein thing
because Jeffrey Epstein is not the only guy who pushes
sex ring behavior with our important people in our country
and the across the world. I mean, Jeffrey Epstein may
be dead, but that's something that's going on in the background,
in addition to the flow of money going to buddies,
(11:58):
you know, people's friends.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
Yeah, I even saw that in Louisiana. Just to remind you.
Oh yeah, I was the first female page, female runner
in the House of Representatives.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (12:12):
It was really nasty place to work. There was shit
going on all over the place, and that it did
have to do.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
You've got to tell me more. Okay, So you were
nineteen or so and because of a guy from your
part of Louisiana, he got you to be a page.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
And he was the firstl Joe, my uncle Joe was
the secretary to the Secretary of State, and he got
me in as an applicant. It wasn't called a page.
It was called a page in the Senate, but it
was called something else in the House of Representatives. And
I can't remember what it was called. I'm gonna call
it a page. So David Pointer was the work of
the House. So Uncle Joe took me to see David Pointer,
(12:52):
and he said, well, we don't have any female pages.
But I don't see why we can't have them now
because the reason they didn't have female pages this is
so funny. It's because females were required to wear skirts
and you had to go run and get a bill
for a legislation going to tell you that, and you
(13:16):
had to climb a ladder and people could see under
your skirt. So females were denied that job because of
a clothing requirement. So they automated the bills that year,
and they had an automated you no longer had to
climb a ladder to get a bill. And then David Pointer,
so I don't see why we can't have female pages.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
So you're the first female page. And so what kind
of stuff did you see? You said you saw all
kinds of stuff.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
Well, there were so many after hours parties. Now I
was not invited. I was clearly tagged.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
As they spotted you pretty quickly.
Speaker 3 (13:55):
It spotted me pretty quick as being these virginal Catholics,
I wasn't selling it and they could tell I wasn't
selling it. But there were plenty of women.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
That were sure.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
It was all power dynamics. There were parties that went on.
I didn't go to anything.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
You weren't invited.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
I don't know if I would have tried to go,
whether I could have gone, but I didn't try. I
was scared of it. It was too much power.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Did your uncle Joe consult, you know, give you a
little guidance all matter.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I don't remember if he did or not. But I
felt I was protected, you know, people were protecting me
from too much information. But you could tell it was
going on. There were games going on. There were power
games going on, there were sexual games going on. There
was a drinking partying. They didn't do as much work
(14:46):
as they let on.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
And probably in the back of that, when it got
carried away enough, there was probably blackmail going on.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Well that's the point. Corruption goes one direction. A little
bit of sleazy turns into more slazy, turns into more slazy.
Speaker 2 (15:03):
Now this is Louisiana, which Louisiana is probably a little
more corrupt than other states, but.
Speaker 3 (15:08):
It's usually in the top five.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
Yeah, but it's a good example of how the corruption
system works.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
Well, power corrupts.
Speaker 2 (15:16):
I'm glad you brought that up. That was good. Well,
this thing about.
Speaker 3 (15:19):
I just think it's funny we're going to make a
rule women have to wear skirts, and then we're going
to deny them a job because they're wearing skirts.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
Well, it wasn't but a couple of years before you
went to LSU that the girls had to wear skirts LSU. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
When I got the LSU, that was over too, right, but.
Speaker 2 (15:41):
Not by far. Yeah, just a couple of years before
you went there.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I'll tell you what that page job was. I only
kept it for one session. Yeah, not even the whole session.
It was murder. I had to be there. I had
to get up at four in the morning. I mean,
and I'm like nineteen. Yeah, I had to get up
at four in the morning and get there at five
or six. And you had to stay late. Most nights,
(16:05):
you had to stay till ten. I would be driving
back and forth from LSU to the capital in the
dark twice a day, not getting a sleep. But then
I quit that job and got a job at Learners.
Do you remember this. I got a job at Learner's
clothing store downtown. Bat murs. It was maybe worse.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
Oh is this the black white stuff?
Speaker 3 (16:29):
It was every other clerk in the store was black.
And it was in a black community, and I was discuminated. Again.
I was not cheerfully.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (16:43):
They were not happy campers to have me there.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
Now, when you say every other you were one of
the only white workers there.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
I don't remember if I was the only white girl
in the store. The manager was white. Okay, I didn't
have any friends and that, but they were not friendly.
They were not friendly to me. And I remember that woman,
that black woman let me have it. I was afraid
of her. She let me have it. You know how
(17:10):
black women can really really get you. That Chris Rock
has that shows like how to Not get beat up
by the police. He has that clip where he says,
don't take a mad black woman with you. Well, that's
what that woman she gave me. I don't know what
I did to offender. Probably horned in on her territory
(17:31):
somehow and didn't know it. But it was so unpleasant
that I called Daddy and told him about it, and
he said, quit, come home, milk the cows. And I quit.
And boy, the managers was mad because I didn't give
any notice. I just said I quit. Yeah, what a relief.
Speaker 2 (17:49):
Well one time period in your life. Well, kids, were
at least the legislators were friendly.
Speaker 3 (17:56):
Yeah, they were friendly. I was a nineteen year old merchant,
ever very friendly. I see that now. I had no
idea at the time what was going on. I was
totally naive person. I think I've been a naive person
the whole life.
Speaker 2 (18:14):
Teenage girls have no idea how the whole male society
is watching their every true true.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
They don't understand the mindset of a male society.
Speaker 2 (18:25):
Right, So it's easy to see how Jeffrey Epstein, how
that could happen.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
Yeah, how he exploited and manipulated those teenagers.
Speaker 2 (18:33):
And it's obvious that the whole cover up thing there's
a complete lie. And I don't even care to watch
people defended on television. I mean, don't waste my time.
Speaker 3 (18:42):
Sorry to get off tracks.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
No, no, I enjoyed that. I don't think I have
anything else to comment on. Well, let me just go
down The thing with Rohn decentis is that I do
completely agree with Rhandacentis. And by the way, that was
high quality stuff.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
That guy, well very presidential advance, is going to have
a run for his money with desantas well.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
You know, I would vote for someone who's in favor
of an amendment like that, whether it's JD. Vance or
Ron DeSantis, I will be disappointed if they don't get
it done, because that is a correction to the system
that we really need. But I really like that, and
he is correct that Elon Musk is one of the
few people that can make this happen.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
I didn't understand until he said it on the clip
that twenty eight states had approved it and all you
need was thirty four to put it on the ballot.
But then you need three quarters of the states to
approve amendment. We're in a time in this country where
that might actually work. Like the Maga movement, people are
waking up to how much corruption government is involved in.
(19:46):
I mean we are started in awakening. Yeah, a lot
of people are learning a lot about their government that
they didn't know before.
Speaker 2 (19:54):
And that's why it's such a disappointment to pass the
big beautiful bill, which totally ignores the problem with the budget,
but it does offer the promise of hey, this is
so good that our economy is going to be good
in the future, and then maybe.
Speaker 3 (20:10):
We can pass Well, there's the trick. You wouldn't have
been able to get re elected if you tried to
pass Trump and MAGA, the America First Movement would have
committed suicide by trying to pass that instead of the
options he was doing. I mean, you have to well
to plan this out as a chess strategy.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Well, I wish they had said that, but they didn't
say that. What they said was we're going to get
rid of the federal deficit. I mean, they were making
promises about how they were going to fix things, and
then when they got when they got in there, they
I didn't know what they did at all.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
I hadn't heard that the theme from Trump that he
was going to fix the deficit. I heard it mentioned
that it was a problem, but I hadn't heard it
as a campaign slogan that he was going to fix
the deficit.
Speaker 2 (20:56):
He said a lot of things. You can't really hould
apology every one of them.
Speaker 3 (21:01):
But the thing about well your topic today that's so
good is that it gives me hope that we are
on the right trajectory for getting that done. That what
the two elements Ron desantus the Amendment to the Constitution
about working with a balanced budget and term limits.
Speaker 2 (21:18):
It's pretty damn disappointing that we got our hopes up
with Elon Musk and Doze and then the big beautiful
Bill just killed that whole thing. I mean it's gone.
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I'm not sure that's correct, and.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Well it's pretty Let me just say it's disappointing to watch,
and I predict when people bring it up it's going
to be the same old thing. There's nothing to see here. Yes,
Dooze no longer is doing much and there's nothing to
see here. Okay, that's just the way of the world.
So that's disappointing. But my hope is with the Rhonda
(21:52):
Santis strategy of someone like Elon Musk leading an effort
to a balance budget.
Speaker 1 (21:59):
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