August 29, 2025 • 39 mins
Seg 1 - Defending the Indefensible?
Seg 2 – Flag Burning and Beyond
Seg 3 – Gavin Newsom’s Delusion
Seg 4 – Cracker Barrel Cracks
Seg 2 – Flag Burning and Beyond
Seg 3 – Gavin Newsom’s Delusion
Seg 4 – Cracker Barrel Cracks
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you love him, mister Tim Donner, thanks for coming back in.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
Tim, Thank you. Mark. Always good to be here.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
So we have so much to cover this week because
the country has exploded into predictable madness in so many
ways that it's there's an element of worry with a
veneer of high entertainment as far as I'm concerned, and
one of the main aspects of that is directly related
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to a fantastic Not that I'm saying that this fantastic
article that you've written is to blame for that, but
it does highlight quite although.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Maybe that's a that's a release you'll find.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Out when they haul you before the courts. And it's
really about well, let's say what it is. It's it's
it's a Trumpian political skill of getting the Democratic Party,
the elected Democrats, to defend the indefensible.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Give us your.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Give us your thesis, hit Tim Well.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I've written a piece on this on Liberty nation dot
com called the Trump Trap, and basically what it says
is that Donald Trump has definitely developed political skills of
great magnitude.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
He has the ability to lead.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
He has the ability and the willingness to do things
that typical politicians won't. He had the willingness to drop
tons of bunker busters on the Iranian nuclear facilities, to
fire tens of thousands of federal employees who were just
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contributing to the same old, you know, tired swamp deep
state in Washington. We all know of his political skill,
but I would argue that one of one of the
greatest political skills, and not the greatest, that he's developed,
is to take the reality that the left is so
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deranged by him that it provides an opening for him
to tempt them and draw them into taking entirely indefensible positions,
so most recently by as sending the National Guard into
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d C and reducing crime, stopping murders for a period
of twelve days until there was finally a break in it,
and so many other things Trump has said. You know what,
they hate me. The law always hate me. They'd hate me.
If I walked on water, they'd say I couldn't swim.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
It's the anti Sissy's basic. They hate me. They really
hate me.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yes, it's true.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
The cure for drump derangement syndrome has not yet been discovered,
and so therefore the only thing the Left can do
is to oppose everything that Trump favors. And so Trump
has focused on these eighty twenty or ninety ten, or
as he likes to call them, ninety seven to three issues,
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like reducing crime in America's major He's forced them to
defend criminals. He has forced them to defend criminal, illegal aliens.
Do you realize how insane it is to uphold killmore
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Abrego Garcia as an icon of your party, of your movement.
That's it's it's it beggars belief, honestly, Mark, But his
ability to force the met because nobody wants to be
the first Democrat to say, you know what, Trump has
a point. You know what Trump is right. Crime is
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a problem. You know what Trump is right. We're better
off without human traffickers and rapists and murderers who were
here illegally being in the country. So he's he has
forced the Democrats to double down on the very things
that caused them to get wiped out in the November
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twenty twenty four election. And I don't see any side, Mark,
I don't see a single issue on which Democrats will say,
you know what, he did a good job on that.
They've said nothing about the five peace deals that he
has set across the world between traditional enemies. They haven't
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supported basically trashing Irans nuclear capabilities. They haven't supported the
fact that the border is now secure. They haven't supported
anything that among the issues that are most popular with
American people. So the Trump trap is it's a honeypot.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Come on in and be my guests.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Oppose everything I'm doing because it just increases my own standing,
or more likely just diminishes their own. Although given that
Democrats are less popular than any time in decades, certainly
anytime this entire century, and we're a quarter of the
way through the century, there's no break in sight. I mean,
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the latest one was the Democratic meeting going on in Minneapolis,
where I.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Was going to bring this yes, when the.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Woman said, don't take the bait. Don't admit that migrant
crime is.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Anti car and carjackings and carjackings.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Americans don't care about carjackings. Americans. I live in the
in the the capital area near Washington, d C. And
sure I'll go into d C. And if someone carjacks me,
don't care it's.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Just a cause to do it business.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I mean, I think of the jd Vance retort during
the campaign where Kristen Welker of NBC said, I think
it was her might have been the you know the
clone on ABC, the anti Trump Sunday talk show host
where she goes, no, you know, or Colorado, it's not
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a big problem that criminal llegals have taken over apart
and complexes.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
It's only one. It's only five, Only five.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
It's only five.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
And I'll say the same thing that Jad Bans said.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Do you hear what you're saying?
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Yeah, do you hear what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
So it's so strange though, because the lady we're talking
about it the.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Summer of d NC session.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Do you know what she said that voters across America
care about mental health, And you know what, mental health
is a concern. But I think people's mental health might
naturally get better if they didn't have to worry about criminality.
They didn't have to worry about getting killed or robbed
when they're going to work or taking their kids to school.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Well, the problem is we're not mentally healthy because we
have our own pandemic. It's called Trump derangement syndrome. There's
no cure for it, right, So it's our rich for
a party that is riven, that is dominated, that is
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defined by abject hatred of Donald Trump, to say we
need we need help with mental help. I would use
a form of the expression physician, heal myself. Leftists, heal
yourselves before you talk to us about mental health.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
And on that note, we're going to be back with
Tim Donner after this show break. Don't go Anywhere.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
For your freedom and your liberty, Liberty Nation with Mark.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Edgelitis Andrew back on Limitination Radio. I continue to be
Mark Angelina's. We're continuing our conversation with longtime host of
this here show, mister Tim Donna.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Now Tim. Earlier in the show, we were discussing.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
What you describe a great article on lincination dot com
as one of Trump Donald Trump's chief political skills, and
that is to get his Democrat opponents to defend the indefensible.
And we were talking about this before recording, and it
seems to me it's like Lucy with the football because
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you can kind of see when he's doing it, when
he's setting up he's putting something in place that his
political enemies or rivals are going to take the bait
on and you can see that you're think, just don't
take the bait on it, just don't do it.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
And yet there they are.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
They're Charlie Brown running towards the ball and then Lucy
pulls it away, and they go for it every time.
And one of those issues I think is it's actually
quite it's quite a contentious issue, and I think it
deserves a lot of discussion and a lot of clarity
on it because it's about the recent executive order on
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burning of the US flag and Donald Trump saying who
like criminal penalties applied to that? So I was writing
on that the day it came out, and I think
I described it to our executive editorial team as writing,
this is like walking a tightrope that is also a
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tripwire at the same time that there's really no way
to I mean, obviously, as a journalist you just try
and go straight down the middle and report the facts
as they are, but you also want to get people
interested in looking at the angles that haven't been covered.
Tim Let's start with Justice antonin Scalia in nineteen eighty nine,
who was the swing vote in the Johnson v. Texas
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case at the Supreme Court, and then a year later
that it was reinforced, and he described that as a
I can't remember the exact quote, but something if you
were up to me, all of these long haired, sandal wearing,
bearded hippies who burn the flag would go straight to jails.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
But I am no king.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
And so he made his case very clear that it
was absolutely unconstitutional. It was a constitution protected first mint
right to burn the flag.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
And so Trump signed this executive order. And then the
media went wild.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Saying, well, this is against the first men, against the Constitution.
But for those who actually read, and I put this
in my article, I said the media they went first
for the Supreme Court almanac, when first they should have
read the executive order. What was your initial take on
that executive order. We'll go into what it actually says
in a bit, but what was your initial take on it?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Well, my initial take was that I'm glad you had
to write about it, because this is one of the
few issues that really sort of divides the magabase. I
don't think it divides it in a way where there's
going to be in fighting so much disagreements. I think
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it's sort of like the Epstein files whole Epstein issue,
where there are some in MAGA world who are still
demanding more accountability and others who are saying, hey, the
Justice Department told us what they have, what they know,
and that's it. Let's move on. But in terms of
the flag burning issue, I think there is a reasonable
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middle ground up. I think when antonin Scalia, who is
sort of a heroic figure icon what he would say
an icon on constitutionalists, when he says, as much as
I deplore burning the American flag, it is legitimately in
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his view, in the view of the Supreme Court justices
that joined in his opinion, that this is freedom of speech.
So I think that the sensible position on this is
that if I go into my front yard and just
to make a display of how much I hate America,
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and I burn the flag on my front lawn, that
is protected speech because it is not inciting violence, it's
not fighting words because it's not directed at anybody. But
if you're going to burn the flag as a way
to stoke a riot, then it is a legitimate add
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on to criminal penalties, just like hate crimes are, so
tip you can add on time because of you to
add on time to the sentence because of the you know,
because of burning the flag. But if it's associated with
vile in or criminal activity, I think it's a totally
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legitimate thing what Trump did. But if it's just doing
it in your backyard for whatever your person, what small
reason is that has to be protected speech?
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Yes, So just to dig into that of it. So
when Trump says that he wants a year in jail,
he see what he's referring to. And surprisingly not a
single one of the big box media outlet's dug into this,
which is strange because I'm not a lawyer, and this
was very easy for me to find out. It's what
he was talking about was a sentence enhancement, which, as
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you rightly point out, is often associated with what so
called hate crimes, because there isn't actually a hate crime
as such.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
It's a sentence enhancement.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
So what happens is if somebody has a hate crime
attached a hate crime charge attached to an existing crime,
then they can face an additional one, two or three years.
It's under Penal Code section four to two point seven five.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I got that for you.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
There, go and google it for just to check me
on that folks at home. But so that's what he
was asking for. And so the executive order didn't say
that you can't burn a flag.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
It's saying that if you are.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Is essentially it's adding a hate crime element to the thing,
if it's directing somebody to go and if it's trying
to incite violence or a riot whilst in the execution
of another existing crime. And so in many cases that so,
for example, there was a gentleman, a twenty year veteran
of American forces, who burnt a flag I believe, in
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Lafayette Square not long after the executive order was signed
and he was arrested. I don't know if he's been
officially charged yet, he's been released, and he was doing
it in protest to this executive order of Donald Trump's,
and what he was charged with was not I believe
the charges that he's facing at the time of recording
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are not desecrational flag because that's not a crime. But
it's it's ars, non public property. So it doesn't matter
that it was a flag or a I don't know her,
she's rapper or something, although.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
She's rapper would be a lot easier to burn.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
And so it's really is a it's a third rail issue.
And coming back to what we talked about in the
first segment of the show, Tim, I wonder if there
wasn't an element of trolling involved here by the President
to have Democrats or his political enemies in general, people
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on the left perhaps start burning flags. It just if
I were Donald Trump, it's not something I would have
got involved in, but I'm not Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, well, he's got some sort of playing on this
today that he's talked about making burning the American flag
a crime and for the last decade. Yeah, and he
came down that golden escalator. He's wanted to do this,
and now yes, he's forcing the left into saying it's
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perfectly fine to burn the American flag. So it becomes
a cultural issue, not really.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
A legal one.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
And you know, it's going to wind up at the
Supreme Court probably like virtually every.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Other executive order that Trump is signed. Let me tell
you something.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
If whatever it is that the Supreme Court from justices
make in terms of a salary, they deserve a raise.
Trum Trump is keeping them so busy more than any
other president in my lifetime.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Indeed, he is, and it's a. It's great entertainment for
those who are interested in the constitutional process. We'll be
back with Donna after the showbreak.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Don't go anywhere. No, that's what was free.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
Of enterprise, and freedom is special and ate.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
This is Liberty Nation with Mark Angelides, a production of
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Speaker 4 (19:24):
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Speaker 3 (19:37):
It is good.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
We haven't had any changes here. We don't need any
recognition certificates of changes to our particular states of state.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Eye is that perhaps, uh.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
I'm not a great a word to make a word
a fourth declaration declamation Latin.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Now we go with the state of podes.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
That's a Latin joke for those who appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Now, Tim.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
One of the most fascinating social media things happening at
the moment is Governor of California, Gavin Newsom trying to
claim the Trumpian airspace by himself claiming the moniker of
America's governor, which is interesting to me, but by replicating
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now mocking Donald Trump's style with his press Government's Press
Office account, by mocking Donald Trump's style, and then assigning
all this thought process to Trump supporters and then saying,
I can't believe MAGA supporters believe this because and it's
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all just invented in their minds. They think that people
think that Gavin Newsom is mimicking Gavin Newsom's people think
that MAGA people think that Gavin Newsom is mimicking Donald Trump.
In fact, the magapeople realize that he's mocking Donald Trump.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
But they think it's the other way around.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
And it's this weird, convoluted we know what you're thinking
because it's what we want to think that you're thinking,
and it shows an absolute lack of clarity mental thought process.
And if I may just pop the icing on this
particular introduction, the idea that Gavin Newsom is America's governor
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is for me, It's always been if you want the
label of America's governor, other states want to be you.
Other states want to be just like you, And nobody
wants to be like California, not even New York because,
as I pointed out earlier too, and I'm sure you
agree with this, New York is theater people, California's movie people.
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They don't respect each other in the same way. So
not even New York wants to be California. There's a
great economy there, but a lot of that is due
to the population size. Tim, what's your take on this
on America's want to be governor?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Well, one of the beauties of being a politician is
that you can simply declare something to be true and
therefore it is. So you can simply declare yourself to
be America's governor, and I mean there's no law against that.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
No.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
It's like at the Democratic convention after the Biden meltdown
and Kamala Harris became the nominee, they simply declare that
Joy is back. There's no evidence of it. Yeah, they
have nothing to back it up, but they can simply
declare Joy is back in the Democratic Party. Of course,
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it turned out to be completely untrue, which we knew
at the time, but you know, cabin knew some figures
at least stylistically. If he can't beat Trump, he can
join him by trying to be sort of Donald Trump
in the mirror. He wants to take that same style.
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The all caps posts on X is the most obvious
ripoff of the Trump style. But I kind of thought
Mark correct me if I'm wrong. I kind of thought
that people on the left hated Trump's style, So then
why would Governor Hair gel Out in California want to
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emulate it. It's kind of a conundrum, and I think
the answer is that he's got nothing else. He has
to change the subject. He has to look like a
national figure and make people forget about his outrageously poor
governance in California, where for the first time in its history,
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people are leaving California rather than heading to California. That
says at all people vote with their feet. Yeah, and
there's even mass exodus away from Caltifuria rather than towards it,
which is the way it was for pretty much all
of our lifetimes.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
So you've got to wonder who this all caps thing
is for. So sure they're doing it to mark Donald
Trump to kind of hold a mirror up to look
at how crazy he is when he does these all
caps midnight tweets science Yeah, yeah, the rants, which personally,
I got to tell you, I love reading them, you know,
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whether I agree with them, disagree with them things I
think he's losing his mind, or think he's crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Like a fight. It is not, if not hugely entertaining.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Oh it is.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
It is bread and circuses, and I love it. But
Oscar Wilde said, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
that mediocrity can to greatness. And I don't think. I
don't think the governor and his team are well read people.
Otherwise they must surely realize that they think that they're
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mocking Donald Trump and his supporters specifically, which let's be fair.
For somebody who wants a national platform, you don't mock
the supporters of the of the of the chief guy
on the opponent's team.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
It's like when and I.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Got to I give this to Donald Trump when he
talks about what he calls like crazy democrats, he's pretty
much always referring to elected leaders, elected politicians, and he's
never talking about the people. I mean, I'm sure there's
some occasions when he has right, don't fact check me
on that. I'm sure there are some occasions when he has,
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but in general he's talking about the the individual politicians,
the elected politicians, who are fair game, right, they're fair games.
They can't handle it shouldn't be in politics. Gavin Newsom
seems to be mocking the people who support Trump and
that's bad politics. That's just bad politics, and it's a well,
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let's be fair. It shows a bit of a lack
of class, doesn't it.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Tim Well.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I think the problem with Gavin Newsome, like it is
with everybody else on the progressive left, is they live
in such an elite bubble, especially in California, that Gavin
Newsome doesn't seem to realize that the rest of the
country looks at California scans and they say, God forbid
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our state become like there, where there's sanctuary status essentially
across the whole state, where the homeless population continues to
spiral out of control. In the once great city of
San Francisco, with the cost of living at so high
that they've essentially driven the middle class out of California,
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crime exists at levels that are unacceptable to the rest
of the country. I think Gavin Newsom doesn't realize because
he is so stuck in his California elite bubble that
the rest of the country is looking at this and saying,
there's not a chance that we're going to elect the
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guy who's done this to the beautiful state of California
to do it to the entire country. But he's living
in blissful ignorance because all he cares about is the
twenty twenty eight campaign and putting himself on top. And
in that sense, he's smart because he's getting a lot
of Jews for what he's doing. You know, he and
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Zora and Madani, the Democratic candidate for mayor of New York,
are the major domos in the Democratic Party right now.
If the Democrats think that Gavin News and Zora and
mom Doni and what those two represent are the answer
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to what ails them, they could be headed for a
really a worse blowout in twenty twenty eight and may
not even be able to to follow history and do
the easiest thing that history shows, which is to take
over Congress two years after the president of the other
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party takes office.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Yeah, it kind of in some ways, it kind of
exasperates me.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
I'm from the UK.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
I don't necessarily have a skin in the game about
how the elections go. But as somebody who is fascinated
by politics and appreciates what America is, it troubles me
that you've got a Republican party that's so dominant in
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every area at present, and you have it doesn't really
have any any pushback other than as we talked about earlier,
let's just oppose what Donald Trump's doing. There's no there's
no ideas coming out none. America is a nation that
has thrived on beautiful, big ideas.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
That's why it's achieved so much.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
And it's relatively you know, short history is as a
nation at two hundred and fifty years coming up or
well two thirty nine, I guess, depending on when you
when you count it from.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
And we, by the way, we've forgiven your country. We've
we're not asking we forgive that the UK were there
really you may have.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
You may have, but I've hung out in bars and
New Orleans. I know not everybody has. So you've got
this situation where America is ideas and those ideas are tested,
and they're tested by having two strong parties, you know,
and even to some degrees even even third parties. It's
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not as though you know, third party candidates haven't pushed
ideas forward and gotten them into the main stream, like
for example, Maha with RFK Junior that that is front
and center in American politics now, and that came from
a third party run or an outside candidate run. You
have to have to make the ideas battle tested, to
make the ideas stronger than they could be. The seed
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of an idea to become something strong that can be
used for the betterment of the country. It needs, it
needs pressure to become a diamond, as it were, and
I'm just not seeing that at the moment. You've got,
as you say, You've got Zohan man Dani saying, let's,
you know, let's try communism for all intendants and purposes,
which has been tried before. Spoiler alert, it's been done before.
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And you've got Gavin on the other coast.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
And what's he doing.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
He's slapping himself on the back, saying, aren't I clever?
Mocking half of the country by by having my team
type in all caps and calling myself America's governor.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
This is not not Did he not pay attention to
what happened when Hillary Clinton rode off half the country
as a basket of deplorable No that worple is and irredeemables.
Did he not see that? I mean, look, it's never
good in a democracy to have a de facto one
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party state, But right now we're as close to that
as any time since probably during the Reagan era in
the nineteen eighties, when the Democrats were disheveled, where they
got their clocks cleaned in consecutive landslides at the hands
of Ronald Reagan. But right now, you know, the Democratic
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platform is the same as it was in twenty four
there's still pro crime, pro illegal immigrant. They're pro DEI.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
And as they reaffirmed at the summer DNC meeting this
just this last week.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
They did there's still I mean, look, there's still start
of twenty twenty, they're starting their meetings with land acknowledge
me basically saying this land was once owned by the apachees,
Like that's the kind of thing that it actually appeals
to the average American. They can't. The problem is, and
(32:33):
I hate to keep repeating this, but I think this
says it all is if people have said, well, the
Democrats need to throw the Progressives under the bus. But
the problem is that the progressives are the boss. They're
driving the bus. They're steering the bus. And right now,
all the juice in the Democratic Party is behind the
(32:54):
likes of Zora and Mondani, who is essentially an undeluded
communists if you look.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
I did a.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Piece on the Democratic Socialists of America and what they believe,
including the dissolution of the family unit. And this is
the party that Mom Doney has been a proud member
for the last eight year.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Not has been is still he's still on that Hey,
you're right, Yeah, it's on their front page.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
You're right on their front page with the beaming alongside
Rashida Talib of squad fame.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
It's ah, yeah, I worry for any country that falls
under a one party rule.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
And we see you've got.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
To have a healthy two partly system.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
And so even the people, I mean, because the ideas
need to be tested, they need to be debated, they
need to be pushed back against. You know, coherent arguments
need to be made on the other side. Right now,
the only arguments being made on the left or Trump's
in favor of it.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
So I'm opposed to it.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
End of discussion, Tim, We're gonna be back to you
after this show break, Don't go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
For your freedom and your liberty. Liberty Nation with Mark Edgelites.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Andrew back on Liberty Nation Radio for our final segment
with me your host Mark Anteladies, and longtime host of
this here radio show, mister Tim Darner. Tim, I couldn't
let you go without discussing one of the what I
consider the most possibly one of the top two most
important cultural issues facing not just America but the world today,
(34:47):
and that is the Cracker Barrel logo rebrand. It's been
quite the roller coaster, hasn't it, Tim, Well, I.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Come from the standpo and if someone who loves Cracker
Barrel and has been there, I wouldn't say dozens of times,
but maybe eight dozen times in my life because we
we do long drives and whenever we see a Cracker Barrel,
we said, okay, there's our lunch spot. It is warm,
(35:19):
it is welcoming. It does feel like down home with
their comfort food and their old time relics, all of
which are original, and it's really an American treasure Cracker Barrel.
It's quintessentially American. Now, this is the kind of story
where you take a logo with the old guy over
(35:41):
the cracker col Herschel.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
Come on, uncle Hershel is the guy.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
No relation to Herschel walker by the way, No, no, no, no,
Uncle Hershel. And you know you decide to change it
because God forbid, it might what steer black people away
from there because there's a white guy.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
On the logo. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
It's a classic case of a story that in twenty
twenty would never have occurred because the left was a
sentant and rebranding corporate stuff to reflect DEEI and anti
racism and all this stuff was all the rage at
that time. But the culture has shifted message to the left,
(36:24):
No to the left, to the left, the culture is
not yours anymore. And this is basically exhibit A in
that whole transformation back to traditional saying American culture where
you don't have corporate basically corporate notions that's that emanate
(36:48):
from Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, places that ordinary Americans
don't relate to in terms of the South, the Midwest,
the heartland. They love their cracker barrel and they don't
want to see a change. And this is the kind
of thing that now with cracker barrel, going back to
(37:10):
the original logo. I guarantee you Mark, they never would
have done that four years ago after the George Floyd
thing and everybody was bending the need of black lives
matter and people were afraid to speak up. The country
has changed. This is the Trump era, and it is
more so than by far his first his first term
(37:35):
in office. This is Exhibit A. And the cultural shift
back to what they call the normis the normal.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
N means those normans norm.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
So you said Exhibit A. There's also we've got a
more than a whole alphabet. We'll have to start doubling
up on letters. But you've had Jaguar went for a
similar thing in recent month and that was just an
utter disaster.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
But I think it started to really turn in the
whole bud light tobacco. I think that was a pivot
point where they brought in Dylan Maure of any I know,
and you know, basically put on the most woke ANDed
you possibly could and it was really just the latest
embodiment of truer words never spoken.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Go woke, get woke, go broke.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
It's so strange that you have so many corporate entities
all claiming to appreciate diversity and then going for the.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
Same but now.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Boring, non entertaining, scripted corporate dei stuff which produces an
absolute lack of diversity in what it's actually presenting. Its
corporate blandness. You know, you go into a Starbucks, it's
the same everywhere in the world. Rackabarrel was the exception.
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Let's let's hope it returns to its.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I'd say, at least what I call corporate zumb is
who are incapable of thinking for themselves.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Very true, Tim Donna, thanks ever so much for being
with us today.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Always a pleasure, Mark.
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Speaker 3 (01:14):
Tim, Thank you. Mark. Always good to be here.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
So we have so much to cover this week because
the country has exploded into predictable madness in so many
ways that it's there's an element of worry with a
veneer of high entertainment as far as I'm concerned, and
one of the main aspects of that is directly related
(01:40):
to a fantastic Not that I'm saying that this fantastic
article that you've written is to blame for that, but
it does highlight quite although.
Speaker 5 (01:48):
Maybe that's a that's a release you'll find.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
Out when they haul you before the courts. And it's
really about well, let's say what it is. It's it's
it's a Trumpian political skill of getting the Democratic Party,
the elected Democrats, to defend the indefensible.
Speaker 5 (02:09):
Give us your.
Speaker 4 (02:11):
Give us your thesis, hit Tim Well.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
I've written a piece on this on Liberty nation dot
com called the Trump Trap, and basically what it says
is that Donald Trump has definitely developed political skills of
great magnitude.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
He has the ability to lead.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
He has the ability and the willingness to do things
that typical politicians won't. He had the willingness to drop
tons of bunker busters on the Iranian nuclear facilities, to
fire tens of thousands of federal employees who were just
(03:00):
contributing to the same old, you know, tired swamp deep
state in Washington. We all know of his political skill,
but I would argue that one of one of the
greatest political skills, and not the greatest, that he's developed,
is to take the reality that the left is so
(03:23):
deranged by him that it provides an opening for him
to tempt them and draw them into taking entirely indefensible positions,
so most recently by as sending the National Guard into
(03:43):
d C and reducing crime, stopping murders for a period
of twelve days until there was finally a break in it,
and so many other things Trump has said. You know what,
they hate me. The law always hate me. They'd hate me.
If I walked on water, they'd say I couldn't swim.
Speaker 5 (04:04):
It's the anti Sissy's basic. They hate me. They really
hate me.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yes, it's true.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
The cure for drump derangement syndrome has not yet been discovered,
and so therefore the only thing the Left can do
is to oppose everything that Trump favors. And so Trump
has focused on these eighty twenty or ninety ten, or
as he likes to call them, ninety seven to three issues,
(04:35):
like reducing crime in America's major He's forced them to
defend criminals. He has forced them to defend criminal, illegal aliens.
Do you realize how insane it is to uphold killmore
(04:58):
Abrego Garcia as an icon of your party, of your movement.
That's it's it's it beggars belief, honestly, Mark, But his
ability to force the met because nobody wants to be
the first Democrat to say, you know what, Trump has
a point. You know what Trump is right. Crime is
(05:21):
a problem. You know what Trump is right. We're better
off without human traffickers and rapists and murderers who were
here illegally being in the country. So he's he has
forced the Democrats to double down on the very things
that caused them to get wiped out in the November
(05:43):
twenty twenty four election. And I don't see any side, Mark,
I don't see a single issue on which Democrats will say,
you know what, he did a good job on that.
They've said nothing about the five peace deals that he
has set across the world between traditional enemies. They haven't
(06:05):
supported basically trashing Irans nuclear capabilities. They haven't supported the
fact that the border is now secure. They haven't supported
anything that among the issues that are most popular with
American people. So the Trump trap is it's a honeypot.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Come on in and be my guests.
Speaker 2 (06:32):
Oppose everything I'm doing because it just increases my own standing,
or more likely just diminishes their own. Although given that
Democrats are less popular than any time in decades, certainly
anytime this entire century, and we're a quarter of the
way through the century, there's no break in sight. I mean,
(06:57):
the latest one was the Democratic meeting going on in Minneapolis,
where I.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
Was going to bring this yes, when the.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Woman said, don't take the bait. Don't admit that migrant
crime is.
Speaker 4 (07:13):
Anti car and carjackings and carjackings.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Americans don't care about carjackings. Americans. I live in the
in the the capital area near Washington, d C. And
sure I'll go into d C. And if someone carjacks me,
don't care it's.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
Just a cause to do it business.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
I mean, I think of the jd Vance retort during
the campaign where Kristen Welker of NBC said, I think
it was her might have been the you know the
clone on ABC, the anti Trump Sunday talk show host
where she goes, no, you know, or Colorado, it's not
(07:58):
a big problem that criminal llegals have taken over apart
and complexes.
Speaker 5 (08:04):
It's only one. It's only five, Only five.
Speaker 3 (08:07):
It's only five.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
And I'll say the same thing that Jad Bans said.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
Do you hear what you're saying?
Speaker 5 (08:16):
Yeah, do you hear what you're saying.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
So it's so strange though, because the lady we're talking
about it the.
Speaker 5 (08:25):
Summer of d NC session.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
Do you know what she said that voters across America
care about mental health, And you know what, mental health
is a concern. But I think people's mental health might
naturally get better if they didn't have to worry about criminality.
They didn't have to worry about getting killed or robbed
when they're going to work or taking their kids to school.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Well, the problem is we're not mentally healthy because we
have our own pandemic. It's called Trump derangement syndrome. There's
no cure for it, right, So it's our rich for
a party that is riven, that is dominated, that is
(09:09):
defined by abject hatred of Donald Trump, to say we
need we need help with mental help. I would use
a form of the expression physician, heal myself. Leftists, heal
yourselves before you talk to us about mental health.
Speaker 5 (09:30):
And on that note, we're going to be back with
Tim Donner after this show break. Don't go Anywhere.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
For your freedom and your liberty, Liberty Nation with Mark.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Edgelitis Andrew back on Limitination Radio. I continue to be
Mark Angelina's. We're continuing our conversation with longtime host of
this here show, mister Tim Donna.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Now Tim. Earlier in the show, we were discussing.
Speaker 4 (09:59):
What you describe a great article on lincination dot com
as one of Trump Donald Trump's chief political skills, and
that is to get his Democrat opponents to defend the indefensible.
And we were talking about this before recording, and it
seems to me it's like Lucy with the football because
(10:20):
you can kind of see when he's doing it, when
he's setting up he's putting something in place that his
political enemies or rivals are going to take the bait
on and you can see that you're think, just don't
take the bait on it, just don't do it.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
And yet there they are.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
They're Charlie Brown running towards the ball and then Lucy
pulls it away, and they go for it every time.
And one of those issues I think is it's actually
quite it's quite a contentious issue, and I think it
deserves a lot of discussion and a lot of clarity
on it because it's about the recent executive order on
(10:57):
burning of the US flag and Donald Trump saying who
like criminal penalties applied to that? So I was writing
on that the day it came out, and I think
I described it to our executive editorial team as writing,
this is like walking a tightrope that is also a
(11:18):
tripwire at the same time that there's really no way
to I mean, obviously, as a journalist you just try
and go straight down the middle and report the facts
as they are, but you also want to get people
interested in looking at the angles that haven't been covered.
Tim Let's start with Justice antonin Scalia in nineteen eighty nine,
who was the swing vote in the Johnson v. Texas
(11:41):
case at the Supreme Court, and then a year later
that it was reinforced, and he described that as a
I can't remember the exact quote, but something if you
were up to me, all of these long haired, sandal wearing,
bearded hippies who burn the flag would go straight to jails.
Speaker 5 (12:00):
But I am no king.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
And so he made his case very clear that it
was absolutely unconstitutional. It was a constitution protected first mint
right to burn the flag.
Speaker 5 (12:12):
And so Trump signed this executive order. And then the
media went wild.
Speaker 4 (12:16):
Saying, well, this is against the first men, against the Constitution.
But for those who actually read, and I put this
in my article, I said the media they went first
for the Supreme Court almanac, when first they should have
read the executive order. What was your initial take on
that executive order. We'll go into what it actually says
in a bit, but what was your initial take on it?
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Well, my initial take was that I'm glad you had
to write about it, because this is one of the
few issues that really sort of divides the magabase. I
don't think it divides it in a way where there's
going to be in fighting so much disagreements. I think
(12:57):
it's sort of like the Epstein files whole Epstein issue,
where there are some in MAGA world who are still
demanding more accountability and others who are saying, hey, the
Justice Department told us what they have, what they know,
and that's it. Let's move on. But in terms of
the flag burning issue, I think there is a reasonable
(13:22):
middle ground up. I think when antonin Scalia, who is
sort of a heroic figure icon what he would say
an icon on constitutionalists, when he says, as much as
I deplore burning the American flag, it is legitimately in
(13:47):
his view, in the view of the Supreme Court justices
that joined in his opinion, that this is freedom of speech.
So I think that the sensible position on this is
that if I go into my front yard and just
to make a display of how much I hate America,
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and I burn the flag on my front lawn, that
is protected speech because it is not inciting violence, it's
not fighting words because it's not directed at anybody. But
if you're going to burn the flag as a way
to stoke a riot, then it is a legitimate add
(14:32):
on to criminal penalties, just like hate crimes are, so
tip you can add on time because of you to
add on time to the sentence because of the you know,
because of burning the flag. But if it's associated with
vile in or criminal activity, I think it's a totally
(14:53):
legitimate thing what Trump did. But if it's just doing
it in your backyard for whatever your person, what small
reason is that has to be protected speech?
Speaker 4 (15:04):
Yes, So just to dig into that of it. So
when Trump says that he wants a year in jail,
he see what he's referring to. And surprisingly not a
single one of the big box media outlet's dug into this,
which is strange because I'm not a lawyer, and this
was very easy for me to find out. It's what
he was talking about was a sentence enhancement, which, as
(15:24):
you rightly point out, is often associated with what so
called hate crimes, because there isn't actually a hate crime
as such.
Speaker 5 (15:32):
It's a sentence enhancement.
Speaker 4 (15:34):
So what happens is if somebody has a hate crime
attached a hate crime charge attached to an existing crime,
then they can face an additional one, two or three years.
It's under Penal Code section four to two point seven five.
Speaker 3 (15:56):
I got that for you.
Speaker 5 (15:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 4 (15:59):
There, go and google it for just to check me
on that folks at home. But so that's what he
was asking for. And so the executive order didn't say
that you can't burn a flag.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
It's saying that if you are.
Speaker 4 (16:12):
Is essentially it's adding a hate crime element to the thing,
if it's directing somebody to go and if it's trying
to incite violence or a riot whilst in the execution
of another existing crime. And so in many cases that so,
for example, there was a gentleman, a twenty year veteran
of American forces, who burnt a flag I believe, in
(16:36):
Lafayette Square not long after the executive order was signed
and he was arrested. I don't know if he's been
officially charged yet, he's been released, and he was doing
it in protest to this executive order of Donald Trump's,
and what he was charged with was not I believe
the charges that he's facing at the time of recording
(16:59):
are not desecrational flag because that's not a crime. But
it's it's ars, non public property. So it doesn't matter
that it was a flag or a I don't know her,
she's rapper or something, although.
Speaker 5 (17:13):
She's rapper would be a lot easier to burn.
Speaker 4 (17:17):
And so it's really is a it's a third rail issue.
And coming back to what we talked about in the
first segment of the show, Tim, I wonder if there
wasn't an element of trolling involved here by the President
to have Democrats or his political enemies in general, people
(17:39):
on the left perhaps start burning flags. It just if
I were Donald Trump, it's not something I would have
got involved in, but I'm not Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (17:50):
Yeah, well, he's got some sort of playing on this
today that he's talked about making burning the American flag
a crime and for the last decade. Yeah, and he
came down that golden escalator. He's wanted to do this,
and now yes, he's forcing the left into saying it's
(18:10):
perfectly fine to burn the American flag. So it becomes
a cultural issue, not really.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
A legal one.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
And you know, it's going to wind up at the
Supreme Court probably like virtually every.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
Other executive order that Trump is signed. Let me tell
you something.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
If whatever it is that the Supreme Court from justices
make in terms of a salary, they deserve a raise.
Trum Trump is keeping them so busy more than any
other president in my lifetime.
Speaker 4 (18:44):
Indeed, he is, and it's a. It's great entertainment for
those who are interested in the constitutional process. We'll be
back with Donna after the showbreak.
Speaker 5 (18:53):
Don't go anywhere. No, that's what was free.
Speaker 3 (19:02):
Freedom of speech, freedom of religion, freedom.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
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Speaker 3 (19:37):
It is good.
Speaker 4 (19:38):
We haven't had any changes here. We don't need any
recognition certificates of changes to our particular states of state.
Speaker 5 (19:46):
Eye is that perhaps, uh.
Speaker 4 (19:48):
I'm not a great a word to make a word
a fourth declaration declamation Latin.
Speaker 5 (19:53):
Now we go with the state of podes.
Speaker 4 (19:56):
That's a Latin joke for those who appreciate it.
Speaker 3 (19:59):
Now, Tim.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
One of the most fascinating social media things happening at
the moment is Governor of California, Gavin Newsom trying to
claim the Trumpian airspace by himself claiming the moniker of
America's governor, which is interesting to me, but by replicating
(20:23):
now mocking Donald Trump's style with his press Government's Press
Office account, by mocking Donald Trump's style, and then assigning
all this thought process to Trump supporters and then saying,
I can't believe MAGA supporters believe this because and it's
(20:44):
all just invented in their minds. They think that people
think that Gavin Newsom is mimicking Gavin Newsom's people think
that MAGA people think that Gavin Newsom is mimicking Donald Trump.
In fact, the magapeople realize that he's mocking Donald Trump.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
But they think it's the other way around.
Speaker 4 (21:05):
And it's this weird, convoluted we know what you're thinking
because it's what we want to think that you're thinking,
and it shows an absolute lack of clarity mental thought process.
And if I may just pop the icing on this
particular introduction, the idea that Gavin Newsom is America's governor
(21:27):
is for me, It's always been if you want the
label of America's governor, other states want to be you.
Other states want to be just like you, And nobody
wants to be like California, not even New York because,
as I pointed out earlier too, and I'm sure you
agree with this, New York is theater people, California's movie people.
(21:49):
They don't respect each other in the same way. So
not even New York wants to be California. There's a
great economy there, but a lot of that is due
to the population size. Tim, what's your take on this
on America's want to be governor?
Speaker 2 (22:06):
Well, one of the beauties of being a politician is
that you can simply declare something to be true and
therefore it is. So you can simply declare yourself to
be America's governor, and I mean there's no law against that.
Speaker 3 (22:24):
No.
Speaker 2 (22:25):
It's like at the Democratic convention after the Biden meltdown
and Kamala Harris became the nominee, they simply declare that
Joy is back. There's no evidence of it. Yeah, they
have nothing to back it up, but they can simply
declare Joy is back in the Democratic Party. Of course,
(22:48):
it turned out to be completely untrue, which we knew
at the time, but you know, cabin knew some figures
at least stylistically. If he can't beat Trump, he can
join him by trying to be sort of Donald Trump
in the mirror. He wants to take that same style.
(23:09):
The all caps posts on X is the most obvious
ripoff of the Trump style. But I kind of thought
Mark correct me if I'm wrong. I kind of thought
that people on the left hated Trump's style, So then
why would Governor Hair gel Out in California want to
(23:33):
emulate it. It's kind of a conundrum, and I think
the answer is that he's got nothing else. He has
to change the subject. He has to look like a
national figure and make people forget about his outrageously poor
governance in California, where for the first time in its history,
(23:54):
people are leaving California rather than heading to California. That
says at all people vote with their feet. Yeah, and
there's even mass exodus away from Caltifuria rather than towards it,
which is the way it was for pretty much all
of our lifetimes.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
So you've got to wonder who this all caps thing
is for. So sure they're doing it to mark Donald
Trump to kind of hold a mirror up to look
at how crazy he is when he does these all
caps midnight tweets science Yeah, yeah, the rants, which personally,
I got to tell you, I love reading them, you know,
(24:37):
whether I agree with them, disagree with them things I
think he's losing his mind, or think he's crazy.
Speaker 3 (24:43):
Like a fight. It is not, if not hugely entertaining.
Speaker 5 (24:48):
Oh it is.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
It is bread and circuses, and I love it. But
Oscar Wilde said, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery
that mediocrity can to greatness. And I don't think. I
don't think the governor and his team are well read people.
Otherwise they must surely realize that they think that they're
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mocking Donald Trump and his supporters specifically, which let's be fair.
For somebody who wants a national platform, you don't mock
the supporters of the of the of the chief guy
on the opponent's team.
Speaker 5 (25:27):
It's like when and I.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
Got to I give this to Donald Trump when he
talks about what he calls like crazy democrats, he's pretty
much always referring to elected leaders, elected politicians, and he's
never talking about the people. I mean, I'm sure there's
some occasions when he has right, don't fact check me
on that. I'm sure there are some occasions when he has,
(25:51):
but in general he's talking about the the individual politicians,
the elected politicians, who are fair game, right, they're fair games.
They can't handle it shouldn't be in politics. Gavin Newsom
seems to be mocking the people who support Trump and
that's bad politics. That's just bad politics, and it's a well,
(26:11):
let's be fair. It shows a bit of a lack
of class, doesn't it.
Speaker 5 (26:14):
Tim Well.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
I think the problem with Gavin Newsome, like it is
with everybody else on the progressive left, is they live
in such an elite bubble, especially in California, that Gavin
Newsome doesn't seem to realize that the rest of the
country looks at California scans and they say, God forbid
(26:39):
our state become like there, where there's sanctuary status essentially
across the whole state, where the homeless population continues to
spiral out of control. In the once great city of
San Francisco, with the cost of living at so high
that they've essentially driven the middle class out of California,
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crime exists at levels that are unacceptable to the rest
of the country. I think Gavin Newsom doesn't realize because
he is so stuck in his California elite bubble that
the rest of the country is looking at this and saying,
there's not a chance that we're going to elect the
(27:24):
guy who's done this to the beautiful state of California
to do it to the entire country. But he's living
in blissful ignorance because all he cares about is the
twenty twenty eight campaign and putting himself on top. And
in that sense, he's smart because he's getting a lot
of Jews for what he's doing. You know, he and
(27:46):
Zora and Madani, the Democratic candidate for mayor of New York,
are the major domos in the Democratic Party right now.
If the Democrats think that Gavin News and Zora and
mom Doni and what those two represent are the answer
(28:06):
to what ails them, they could be headed for a
really a worse blowout in twenty twenty eight and may
not even be able to to follow history and do
the easiest thing that history shows, which is to take
over Congress two years after the president of the other
(28:30):
party takes office.
Speaker 4 (28:32):
Yeah, it kind of in some ways, it kind of
exasperates me.
Speaker 5 (28:38):
I'm from the UK.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
I don't necessarily have a skin in the game about
how the elections go. But as somebody who is fascinated
by politics and appreciates what America is, it troubles me
that you've got a Republican party that's so dominant in
(29:00):
every area at present, and you have it doesn't really
have any any pushback other than as we talked about earlier,
let's just oppose what Donald Trump's doing. There's no there's
no ideas coming out none. America is a nation that
has thrived on beautiful, big ideas.
Speaker 5 (29:22):
That's why it's achieved so much.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
And it's relatively you know, short history is as a
nation at two hundred and fifty years coming up or
well two thirty nine, I guess, depending on when you
when you count it from.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
And we, by the way, we've forgiven your country. We've
we're not asking we forgive that the UK were there
really you may have.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
You may have, but I've hung out in bars and
New Orleans. I know not everybody has. So you've got
this situation where America is ideas and those ideas are tested,
and they're tested by having two strong parties, you know,
and even to some degrees even even third parties. It's
(30:11):
not as though you know, third party candidates haven't pushed
ideas forward and gotten them into the main stream, like
for example, Maha with RFK Junior that that is front
and center in American politics now, and that came from
a third party run or an outside candidate run. You
have to have to make the ideas battle tested, to
make the ideas stronger than they could be. The seed
(30:33):
of an idea to become something strong that can be
used for the betterment of the country. It needs, it
needs pressure to become a diamond, as it were, and
I'm just not seeing that at the moment. You've got,
as you say, You've got Zohan man Dani saying, let's,
you know, let's try communism for all intendants and purposes,
which has been tried before. Spoiler alert, it's been done before.
(30:58):
And you've got Gavin on the other coast.
Speaker 5 (31:02):
And what's he doing.
Speaker 4 (31:03):
He's slapping himself on the back, saying, aren't I clever?
Mocking half of the country by by having my team
type in all caps and calling myself America's governor.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
This is not not Did he not pay attention to
what happened when Hillary Clinton rode off half the country
as a basket of deplorable No that worple is and irredeemables.
Did he not see that? I mean, look, it's never
good in a democracy to have a de facto one
(31:35):
party state, But right now we're as close to that
as any time since probably during the Reagan era in
the nineteen eighties, when the Democrats were disheveled, where they
got their clocks cleaned in consecutive landslides at the hands
of Ronald Reagan. But right now, you know, the Democratic
(31:56):
platform is the same as it was in twenty four
there's still pro crime, pro illegal immigrant. They're pro DEI.
Speaker 4 (32:06):
And as they reaffirmed at the summer DNC meeting this
just this last week.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
They did there's still I mean, look, there's still start
of twenty twenty, they're starting their meetings with land acknowledge
me basically saying this land was once owned by the apachees,
Like that's the kind of thing that it actually appeals
to the average American. They can't. The problem is, and
(32:33):
I hate to keep repeating this, but I think this
says it all is if people have said, well, the
Democrats need to throw the Progressives under the bus. But
the problem is that the progressives are the boss. They're
driving the bus. They're steering the bus. And right now,
all the juice in the Democratic Party is behind the
(32:54):
likes of Zora and Mondani, who is essentially an undeluded
communists if you look.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
I did a.
Speaker 2 (33:02):
Piece on the Democratic Socialists of America and what they believe,
including the dissolution of the family unit. And this is
the party that Mom Doney has been a proud member
for the last eight year.
Speaker 4 (33:20):
Not has been is still he's still on that Hey,
you're right, Yeah, it's on their front page.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
You're right on their front page with the beaming alongside
Rashida Talib of squad fame.
Speaker 4 (33:35):
It's ah, yeah, I worry for any country that falls
under a one party rule.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
And we see you've got.
Speaker 3 (33:44):
To have a healthy two partly system.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
And so even the people, I mean, because the ideas
need to be tested, they need to be debated, they
need to be pushed back against. You know, coherent arguments
need to be made on the other side. Right now,
the only arguments being made on the left or Trump's
in favor of it.
Speaker 3 (34:08):
So I'm opposed to it.
Speaker 4 (34:10):
End of discussion, Tim, We're gonna be back to you
after this show break, Don't go anywhere.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
For your freedom and your liberty. Liberty Nation with Mark Edgelites.
Speaker 4 (34:25):
Andrew back on Liberty Nation Radio for our final segment
with me your host Mark Anteladies, and longtime host of
this here radio show, mister Tim Darner. Tim, I couldn't
let you go without discussing one of the what I
consider the most possibly one of the top two most
important cultural issues facing not just America but the world today,
(34:47):
and that is the Cracker Barrel logo rebrand. It's been
quite the roller coaster, hasn't it, Tim, Well, I.
Speaker 2 (34:58):
Come from the standpo and if someone who loves Cracker
Barrel and has been there, I wouldn't say dozens of times,
but maybe eight dozen times in my life because we
we do long drives and whenever we see a Cracker Barrel,
we said, okay, there's our lunch spot. It is warm,
(35:19):
it is welcoming. It does feel like down home with
their comfort food and their old time relics, all of
which are original, and it's really an American treasure Cracker Barrel.
It's quintessentially American. Now, this is the kind of story
where you take a logo with the old guy over
(35:41):
the cracker col Herschel.
Speaker 5 (35:42):
Come on, uncle Hershel is the guy.
Speaker 2 (35:44):
No relation to Herschel walker by the way, No, no, no, no,
Uncle Hershel. And you know you decide to change it
because God forbid, it might what steer black people away
from there because there's a white guy.
Speaker 3 (36:01):
On the logo. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (36:02):
It's a classic case of a story that in twenty
twenty would never have occurred because the left was a
sentant and rebranding corporate stuff to reflect DEEI and anti
racism and all this stuff was all the rage at
that time. But the culture has shifted message to the left,
(36:24):
No to the left, to the left, the culture is
not yours anymore. And this is basically exhibit A in
that whole transformation back to traditional saying American culture where
you don't have corporate basically corporate notions that's that emanate
(36:48):
from Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, places that ordinary Americans
don't relate to in terms of the South, the Midwest,
the heartland. They love their cracker barrel and they don't
want to see a change. And this is the kind
of thing that now with cracker barrel, going back to
(37:10):
the original logo. I guarantee you Mark, they never would
have done that four years ago after the George Floyd
thing and everybody was bending the need of black lives
matter and people were afraid to speak up. The country
has changed. This is the Trump era, and it is
more so than by far his first his first term
(37:35):
in office. This is Exhibit A. And the cultural shift
back to what they call the normis the normal.
Speaker 5 (37:42):
N means those normans norm.
Speaker 4 (37:46):
So you said Exhibit A. There's also we've got a
more than a whole alphabet. We'll have to start doubling
up on letters. But you've had Jaguar went for a
similar thing in recent month and that was just an
utter disaster.
Speaker 2 (38:04):
But I think it started to really turn in the
whole bud light tobacco. I think that was a pivot
point where they brought in Dylan Maure of any I know,
and you know, basically put on the most woke ANDed
you possibly could and it was really just the latest
embodiment of truer words never spoken.
Speaker 3 (38:27):
Go woke, get woke, go broke.
Speaker 4 (38:31):
It's so strange that you have so many corporate entities
all claiming to appreciate diversity and then going for the.
Speaker 5 (38:41):
Same but now.
Speaker 4 (38:44):
Boring, non entertaining, scripted corporate dei stuff which produces an
absolute lack of diversity in what it's actually presenting. Its
corporate blandness. You know, you go into a Starbucks, it's
the same everywhere in the world. Rackabarrel was the exception.
(39:06):
Let's let's hope it returns to its.
Speaker 2 (39:08):
I'd say, at least what I call corporate zumb is
who are incapable of thinking for themselves.
Speaker 4 (39:16):
Very true, Tim Donna, thanks ever so much for being
with us today.
Speaker 3 (39:19):
Always a pleasure, Mark.
Speaker 4 (39:21):
And that's all we have time from this week's edition
of a Libutination radio head.
Speaker 5 (39:24):
Coast to Coast on the Radio America Network.
Speaker 4 (39:26):
I've been your host, Mark Anteladi's I'd like to thank
our guests today, mister Tim Donnald, libt Nation's senior political
analyst and longtime host of this year radio show, and
of course extend my thanks to you the listeners who
take the time each and every week.
Speaker 5 (39:37):
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