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November 25, 2025 52 mins
Show Theme: Doing What You Can
Show Title: When You Do What You Can, Life Opens New Doors to Living Full Out
Episode Number: 11.40.2025The Living Full Out show with Nancy Solari invites you to discover the strength that comes from simply doing what you can. Life’s challenges can feel heavy or uncertain, but Nancy reminds us that meaningful progress often begins with small, intentional actions. By focusing on what is within your control—even when everything else feels unclear—you create room for momentum and possibility. Our first caller, Derek, is a college student studying cybersecurity and currently feeling weighed down by stress. He wants to stay motivated, but the workload and uncertainty of the future can feel discouraging. Nancy advises him to visualize the impact he will one day have—protecting businesses, strengthening digital safety, and contributing to a more secure world. By looking beyond the moment and embracing a bigger-picture mindset, Derek can reconnect with purpose. Nancy encourages him to do what he can right now: stay committed and stay curious. Trust that each effort brings him closer to the professional he aspires to become.Our inspirational guest, Judith Pinkerton, a pioneering music therapist, has built a life around transforming pain into purpose. Having experienced family affected by addiction, music remained the common thread that kept her connected to those she loved. After facing her own personal hardships, she discovered the powerful healing influence of sound and dedicated herself to helping others find emotional balance through sound. From hospital settings to trauma recovery programs, her work shows how compassionate actions can spark meaningful and lasting impact. Tune in to hear how Judith’s journey reflects the power of doing what you can, even when the path ahead feels uncertain. Our inspirational guest, Judith Pinkerton, a pioneering music therapist, has built her life around transforming pain into purpose. As a young violinist, she learned early on that her art carried a depth that went far beyond performance. Having experienced family members affected by addiction, music remained the common thread that kept her connected to those she loved. She discovered the healing power of sound and devoted herself to guiding others towards emotional balance. She also embraced this mindset when she adopted her granddaughter, offering stability and a safe place to grow. Tune in to hear Judith’s journey reflects the power of doing what you can, even when the path ahead feels uncertain. If life feels complicated or uncertain, remember that every journey moves forward one step at a time. Give your attention to what is immediately available to you. Rely on your knowledge and make use of your resources. Trust that steady effort invites new opportunities. By doing what you can everyday, you strengthen your resilience and continue moving toward a life lived full out.


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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening the Living Full Out with Nancy Solari. As
a professional motivational speaker, Nancy can assist you to blow
through your setbacks and start living full out. If you
have an inspirational story you want to share, email us
at connect at livingfollout dot com. Once again, here's Nancy.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hello, and welcome to The Living Full Out Show. My
name is Nancy Silari, and today we're going to be
talking about giving what you can. You know you can't
give what you don't have, but at the same time,
I have found any way that life is really about
giving it all stems from there. It's not about what
you're gonna get what you can take, it's giving it away.

(00:42):
And we're gonna be talking about that even with our
inspirational guest Judith Pinkerton in our next segment, because she
too had to be a warrior through different twists and
turns in her life. But the secret sauce for her
was how she could give and give more and then more,
and that has led her to a place of just

(01:03):
not just success, but feeling as though she's leading a
purposeful life. And you'll know what I mean when we
touch on her story.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
I want to make.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
Sure though, that it's easy to say, you know, hear
the words, give what you can, but sometimes we need ideas.
We need to know how others are doing it, how
how have others got out of ruts? And so I
want to make sure that you go to livingfulat dot
com listen to any of our episodes there find the
one that is, you know, most resonating with what you're

(01:32):
going through. If you're not able to do that, then
definitely download our free app. It's in the app store,
the Living Full Out Show app. And most of all,
I know that you will find a show an episode
that will just lift you up. And sometimes the words
we need to hear just come at the most randoms
of times that they get us to a place from

(01:52):
stuck to purpose, and that is always what we want
for you. Now I am getting work from our producer
that we do a listener on the line. Let's go
check in at them. Hello, welcome to the Living Full
Out Show. Hello, Hi, how can I help you?

Speaker 4 (02:06):
I've had a question, how do you stay motivated by
juggling the pressure of a full time job and being
a full time student.

Speaker 2 (02:15):
Those, oh my god, those days I don't think you
could pay me to go back. It was tough, tough, tough, tough.
But I'll tell you what, what year? And you are
you in school right now?

Speaker 5 (02:26):
Yes, I'm a junior in college.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
Oh you say that with pride. I'm a junior.

Speaker 6 (02:31):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
But here's the thing.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
College is the craziest time.

Speaker 3 (02:36):
Now.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
It's meant to kind of beat you up a little bit, right.
I mean all the studying, all the classes, the desire,
the activities to go do things, the need for internships, yellone,
getting a job to pay for school. It is a
tough time. But what motivates you is going to come

(02:58):
from your why are you striving to do?

Speaker 5 (03:01):
What are you?

Speaker 3 (03:01):
What are you graduating with?

Speaker 5 (03:04):
I'm getting a degree in uh cybersecurity?

Speaker 2 (03:08):
Oh wow, okay, good man, No glad, I'm glad we're meeting.

Speaker 3 (03:11):
Never know when I might need you.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
But so so, as you go through your college experience
right now, where do you feel the largest demand, the
largest stress.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
Definitely in the studying, the amount of hours that you
have to do on top of just working as well
to keep afloat with paying for apartment like groceries, stuff
like that.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
It can really feel heavy, like I'm sure every day
flows into the next like a blur. Yeah, but what
you're at your most tired, you have to think about
the end result. So fast forward. Okay, you get a
you get a job in cybersecurity. Who do you Who

(03:59):
do you see? Is your client?

Speaker 5 (04:04):
Maybe businesses? What I want to do? I kind of
want to go into the government work.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
So okay, and so let's fast forward. You you're in
that job you're do, You're you're doing government work. Yes,
what problem are you solving?

Speaker 5 (04:26):
Just keeping data secure?

Speaker 2 (04:28):
M mainly and I've been a part of breaches and
I'll tell you that identity theft thing not fun. That
need to replace this and you know check that not fun.
And I super duper duper love the letters. When as
a consumer you get a letter saying that we're so sorry,

(04:51):
but from this date to that date our database was breached.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
That's never a happy letter. So what you have to
look at is your job, what.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
You're striving to do. Yes, it impacts the businesses that
you work for, keeping them safe, But it more so
impacts everything I just said to you, the client, the customer,
the patient of them. You know, everybody is going through
their own busy and there might be this business, this

(05:23):
government agency that you protect and from no breaches, from
no issues. But if there is and something does happen,
it affects that single mom who already has a hard
enough life. It affects that person going through cancer like

(05:46):
a data issue is the last thing they need. So
what I'm getting at here is when you ask me
how can I stay motivated? What always helps me is
to look beyond the moment, look beyond even the company
that you're ultimately going to work for, and it's it's
your piece of that pie, your role in that company,

(06:11):
how that serves the people they serve kind of a
domino effect, right, and without you, where would they be?

Speaker 5 (06:21):
Sure?

Speaker 2 (06:22):
You could say, well they don't hire me, they'll hire
somebody else. But no one has your mind. No one
crosses t's and dots eyes like you do. So what
you need to think about, and what I would think about,
is you have a really important role. Yeah, you might
not be a doctor so you know, doing surgery. You

(06:44):
might not be a scientist cure in cancer, but for
everybody who needs you, you've solved their problem. Yeah, and
what if cyber secure already professionals didn't exist? What if
that software didn't exist, where would we be? Hot mess?

Speaker 7 (07:09):
You're scary.

Speaker 2 (07:12):
So when you're doing all the things you're doing, the
long hours, the studying, the extra job to pay for groceries,
the internships, just all the things that are just heavy
and stressful and long days, keep in mind down the line,

(07:33):
who you being your best, you getting good grades, you
graduating with as much knowledge in your mind as you can.
It's not about you. It's actually not even about the
business you work for. It's about keeping everybody else safe.

Speaker 5 (07:54):
Yeah, that's deep, like the bigger picture mindset.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
The bigger picture mindset exactly. And you know, I sit
here and I think about that all the time. I
do this show, I'm with you, and I think about
it's not about just the show. It's about that one
person who happens to hear the show, who is at
a hard place in their life and maybe you say something,

(08:20):
Maybe this moment you and I together helps them see
their life different. Maybe it's something the guest says, And
that's what it's all about. So the more you can
look at big picture today we're talking about you know,
giving back, you know, giving what you can. It's that
big picture that will always serve you. It'll always keep

(08:43):
you in that lane where you're you're tired, you're up late,
but you're getting out of bed in the morning because
you know how urgent and needed your your talents are.

Speaker 3 (08:56):
Okay, can you try that on?

Speaker 5 (09:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:03):
How do you feel about that?

Speaker 8 (09:05):
I like it?

Speaker 4 (09:06):
I really like makes you look at a lot of
things differently in general.

Speaker 5 (09:12):
M H. And the great small mindset. You kind of
like got to look past what you're doing right now.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Absolutely, And you know what this moment right here, right now,
how great that you are thinking about this now because
you know, just think about how it's going to affect
you in relationships, in business, you know, in your everyday life.
So so yeah, just kind of keep thinking big picture

(09:41):
and also just remember as you go along these hard
moments in our life, they're just to make you better,
to thick in that skin, to make get smarter. Okay,
all right, thank you so much for calling in.

Speaker 5 (09:55):
Yeah, thank you, you got it.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
And for everybody.

Speaker 2 (09:59):
I love that he asked that question, right, because you know,
how do we stay motivated? But I promise you while
we're talking to today about giving what you can if
you keep your eye on the ball, if you keep
your eye on the difference that you want to make.
What legacy do you want to make? How many people
in your life can you possibly touch? Can you possibly

(10:22):
make a difference. It might be the helping hand that
you do, It might be a word that you say.
But that's what it's all about. That is what the
game of life is. That's how you win it. You
don't win it with how much you make. You don't
win it with looking good. It's not about the title.
It's about from the If you look at a tombstone
the day you were born, the day you die, it's

(10:43):
a hash in the middle. What do you want to
be known for? But when you think about that, just
give what you can and you will live full out.

Speaker 5 (10:52):
We'll be back.

Speaker 8 (11:01):
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(11:24):
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Speaker 9 (11:42):
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Speaker 8 (11:42):
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Speaker 7 (12:00):
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Speaker 9 (12:03):
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Speaker 7 (12:07):
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Speaker 9 (12:10):
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Speaker 7 (12:14):
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Speaker 9 (12:16):
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Speaker 11 (13:05):
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Speaker 12 (13:07):
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Speaker 10 (13:12):
Who's with me?

Speaker 7 (13:13):
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Speaker 1 (13:18):
Somebody call me a ride.

Speaker 6 (13:20):
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(14:27):
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Speaker 1 (15:00):
You're listening to Living Full Out with Nancy Solari As
a life coach. Nancy can teach you how to stay
strong under pressure and work through challenges you face. Being
legally blind, Nancy inspires others to be resilient and overcoming
obstacles and live full out. You can ask Nancy for
advice in your life on relationships, finance, business, health, and more.

(15:22):
Just call in at eight hundred three three three zero
zero zero one. Once again, that's eight hundred three three
three zero zero zero one. Now here's Nancy.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Thank you so much for joining us today. I'm Nancy Silarian.
This is the Living Full Out Show and today we're
talking about giving what you can and our inspirational guest today,
Judith Pinkerton, has had so many different really walks in life.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
There's like many different sides to her story that we're
going to try to get through as much as we can.
But really, what a heart of gold. Judith.

Speaker 2 (15:56):
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 16 (15:58):
Nancy, thank you so much for man. I look forward
to our conversation.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
I do too, And I got to tell you growing
up you were a good apple. Oldest of five, you
did what your parents told you to do, even including
playing the violin starting at seven and performing I mean
your entire childhood, having wild success early.

Speaker 3 (16:23):
I mean you even.

Speaker 2 (16:24):
Graduated well night to graduate, but you left high school
even early to go to Europe to do what.

Speaker 17 (16:32):
Well. I was adventuresome that was implanted in me.

Speaker 16 (16:36):
I guess from birth be adventuresome. So I had applied
to the American College in Paris and the Lucerne Music
Conservatory to go to school after graduating high school.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Wow, you know I mean that is I mean good, good,
smart of them to want to snap you up quickly.

Speaker 3 (16:56):
Right even before you were you know, out of the gate.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
But the true is, Judith, I think a lot of
times when we're young and things get kind of forced
on us a little early, and there's these expectations, and
we don't want to let people down. Why do you
find ourselves burning out? And you had been married early
on in your life, and your husband at the time
had some health issues, and you at that time just

(17:22):
got tired of the music and you decided you wanted
to go and go into management at j C. Pennies. Yes,
And was that liberating to be like, you can't tell
me to play that violin anymore?

Speaker 3 (17:37):
Or was that or did you secretly miss it?

Speaker 5 (17:42):
You know?

Speaker 16 (17:42):
It's interesting because when I came back from Europe, completing
a full year over in Europe, I was so homesick
by that time that I didn't want to go back
and I wanted to continue playing the violin at that time,
but the old house rules came back in. I was like,

(18:04):
you know what I need to get out of here.
So I got married quickly.

Speaker 3 (18:08):
It's an answer, it's a solution.

Speaker 16 (18:10):
Yeah, exactly exactly. But what happened was I had been
so full up with music. I needed a break. I
needed a break from the family. I needed a break
from music. I just needed to do.

Speaker 17 (18:22):
My own thing.

Speaker 16 (18:23):
And so retail management just I just kind of went
down that path and it sort of grew into this
huge thing pain in retail management.

Speaker 2 (18:31):
Well, you know, it's funny how life scoops up what
we need, and you needed a little bit that business
backing at that point in your life. Kind of a
little switch, a little you know, dolling up even more
and you putting that icing on the cake. But what
I appreciate you about so much, and I think this
is where the arts, whether it's playing the violin, performing,

(18:53):
it's passion. And you also gave to love in a
passionate way. Yes, you were married early and young, and
that didn't work out. You fell in love once again
with someone who was full of life. You know, like
the party you know was you know, again bringing out
a whole nother side of you. But that also wasn't

(19:15):
the right fit.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
And I give you so much credit.

Speaker 2 (19:18):
For not staying in relationships that you knew weren't the
right fit. You fell in love once again, although this
time was with a man named Peter, and it was fast.
He fell in love with your music you were performing.
I mean, who wouldn't love Judas's you know music, right?

(19:39):
But you and him, it was a fast relationship and
you ended up getting pregnant and having your daughter, Megan.
And in that relationship though it also didn't last. He
had obviously alcoholic alcoholism was an issue. But in that
time though, you actually moved to Las Vegas and you

(20:03):
were finally able to bring music back in a very
successful way once again. I mean, is it true that
you even played with Frank Sinatra?

Speaker 16 (20:15):
Yep, Frank Sinatra Singor was my first Las Vegas show?

Speaker 3 (20:20):
Wow, I love Frank. And you know what, I'm sure
you were scared and nervous.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
But the pro that you are, you landed on your feet.
But you also noticed something. Although the relationship with Peter
wasn't a perfect match. When Peter was in and out
of going to the hospital, you learned something about your
music and how it healed him. What was that about?

Speaker 17 (20:49):
You know?

Speaker 16 (20:49):
I just I always play from the heart, and so
I just intuitively created an audio cassette at that time
for him and thought, wow, you know, maybe this will
help him feel better, and so that's what I did.
And so I was just phenomenally amazed at what the

(21:12):
nurse said with it replacing the routine high blood pressure
medication and not needing it because the music had brought
his high blood pressure into normal range.

Speaker 17 (21:22):
And so then I'm like, how did that happen?

Speaker 16 (21:25):
I have to tell the world about this, not knowing
that the music therapy profession had been around for several
decades and I was introduced to it then when I
started living in Las Vegas. And it was a really
good thing to move to Las Vegas because I discovered
so much there well.

Speaker 2 (21:43):
And the thing is, though riddled in all these relationships,
the common thread was music. It spoke to Peter and
made him feel more soothed. And it actually, even though
you tried to give it up, it kept hunting you down.
Did it heal you as well?

Speaker 9 (22:03):
You know?

Speaker 16 (22:04):
When I expanded, when I had the talent agency, and
I had to expand beyond classical music to all genres
in order to survive. So I became immersed and loving
the people that were producing the music and wanting to,
you know, schedule them and book them and work with them.
And so I really expanded my desire to learn more

(22:27):
about music. And then when I was asked to write
this book for a New York publisher called The Sound
of Healing, I had to be an expert in all
these genres and so then I had to come in
from that heart space to discover, Okay, so how do
all these genres, maybe some that I don't particularly like

(22:48):
to listen to, how can they make sense to me?
And that's when this protocol started birthing and understanding how
all genres are important to life.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
That is so true. I mean, it's if you were
to look at my iPhone, I have a frustrated playlist,
I have a love songs playlist. And I've always felt
that the power of music, it just jolts us, It.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
Energizes us, it soothes us. And you know, in you you.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Had this business talent obviously management and the talent agency,
but the ability to perform, the ability to know how
music could heal. I mean, that is a gift, but
it took years to find that purpose. So stay with us,
Judith and everybody, really, because as you hear more about
her story, you'll see how although there were heartbreaks in

(23:43):
her life, it was the music that led her to
her legacy. It was the music that led her to love.
And most of all, the music will continue to feed
all of us, you know, as we go through hard times,
stay with us. Will be right back.

Speaker 18 (24:03):
Today in school I learned a lot. In chemistry, I
learned that no one likes me. In English, I learned
that I'm disgusting, and in Physics I learned that I'm
a loser.

Speaker 13 (24:16):
Today in school, I learned that I'm ugly and useless.
In jim I learned that I'm pathetic in a joke.
In History today, I learned that I'm trying.

Speaker 19 (24:26):
Today in school, I learned that I have no friends.
In English, I learned that I make people sick, and
at lunch I learned that I sit on my own
because I smell. In chemistry, I learned.

Speaker 5 (24:38):
That no one In Biology, I learned that I'm fat
and stupid.

Speaker 20 (24:42):
And in math I learned that I'm trash.

Speaker 18 (24:46):
The only thing I didn't learn in school today, The
only thing I didn't learn today.

Speaker 7 (24:49):
The only thing I didn't learn is why no one.

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You're listening to Living Full Out with Nancy Solary. With
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strive for success. If you have a question or need
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Speaker 3 (28:22):
Welcome back.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
I'm Nancysilary and this is the Living Full Out Show,
and today we're talking about giving what you can and
we're continuing our interview here with Judith Pinkerton and Judith, welcome.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Back to the show and we're so happy to have you.

Speaker 17 (28:36):
Thank you, Nancy.

Speaker 9 (28:37):
Judith.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
We talked in the last segment about how your music
was healing to Peter, you know, the father of your daughter.
And during the times that you were struggling with that
last relationship with Peter and having to be a single
mom and all the different roles of your life that

(28:59):
you were leading, all the jobs and the nonprofit and
all that.

Speaker 3 (29:03):
Along the way, your daughter.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Was having some difficulties and you know, it really brought
to light, you know, how you might be able to
even help persons like her, people who are struggling in
the way she was. What did you learn about that?

Speaker 16 (29:18):
Oh?

Speaker 17 (29:19):
Boy, So Megan.

Speaker 16 (29:22):
I think had the DNA from her father with addiction,
and when she was a tender age of twelve or thirteen,
I discovered recently that she was probably raped and did not.

Speaker 17 (29:37):
Know that at the time.

Speaker 16 (29:38):
All I knew that was something had happened to her
and she wouldn't talk to me about it. And then
I saw that she started self medicating, and so we
started trying to get her help for that. And oh,
so she ended up marrying a high school boyfriend, having
a baby, him going to overseas in the Army, coming

(30:00):
back damaged with PTSD and having a purple heart, and
I mean, that's a whole other episode. But realizing that
her downward spiral was something that I could not fix,
and so I was constantly seeking answers. And as we

(30:21):
got licensure for music therapy, it opened the door to
start working with addiction treatment centers. And so there was
a particular CEO that sought me out and wanted to
be at his campus, and so I moved on with
my business onto the campus and started treating addiction. Over
the next decade, I treated more than eleven thousand patients.

(30:43):
I understood how to deliver music therapy in such a
way that it informed me about what could possibly be
going on with my daughter, because I crawled into the
minds of every single patient trying to seek answers to
understand what was going on for making and in that

(31:05):
I discovered so much about addiction, about the mindset. I mean,
it kind of got kind of funny where they just
realized I could read their mind because I just heard
and listened to so much that I pretty much knew
what was going to come out next, and more importantly,
I discovered how music could help support them in staying sober,

(31:28):
and to recognize how music and their music habits actually
enhances recovery or triggers them into relapse.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
You know that is it's bittersweet because it's tragic in
the way of Macan and her addiction and the choices
she made and some that were out of her control,
many probably out of her control. And then you know
how you learned and you grew as a mom and

(31:57):
tried to help others like her now aultimately though, you know,
Megan did have another child. She had several, but she
had one that you ended up adopting. And she's six today.

Speaker 16 (32:11):
Yes, yes, Kaylin is our joy, she said, doing SWIMU
lessons right now?

Speaker 23 (32:19):
Now?

Speaker 3 (32:19):
What why do you cry?

Speaker 14 (32:20):
Though?

Speaker 20 (32:21):
Why do you?

Speaker 2 (32:21):
Why do that?

Speaker 3 (32:22):
That kind of moment that you had, It was a
tearful moment that you let go by so fast. When
I mentioned when we talk about Caitlen, why does that
her touch you so dearly?

Speaker 16 (32:35):
I was hoping when I discovered that Megan was going
to have a baby, her second child, I was hoping
it was going to be the miracle baby. And it
wasn't for her, but it was for me. She just
could not deal with life to raise this child, and

(32:56):
so we were awarded custody, and so we actually raised
her from birth and adopted her quickly, and she has
just been such a joy for us these past six years.
But originally I thought she was going to be the
miracle baby for my daughter, but.

Speaker 3 (33:13):
She was yours.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
And to say that she's your miracle baby, what the
audience has to know is although you carry laughter in
your voice, and although you've dedicated your life to therapy
through music, you know you've had a lot of heartbreak,
You've had a lot, a lot of love's come and gone,

(33:35):
and you've you've been blessed with great kiddos. But at
the same time, you've lost kiddos. And it wasn't too
far back that you lost some twins, little babies. What
happened there?

Speaker 16 (33:47):
Oh, So my son was born, and a year later
I found myself pregnant with twins. And by the fourth months,
past the trimess first trimester, it just didn't seem like
things were right and what's been eating for you know what?

Speaker 17 (34:13):
Three?

Speaker 16 (34:14):
And so I went in and sure enough they had
died a month before, and the doctor was astonished that
I wasn't dead because I'd been carrying toxic UH babies
for a month that had been deceased that long, and
so they were able to remove them. And it was

(34:39):
just so heartbreaking, but I think partially relief because we
were already a blended family at four kids, and having
twins would have uh significant Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:53):
But but but but Caitlin is a miracle baby to you,
because I mean, obviously that was so a loss and
now she is such a gift. And it's so interesting
how you can you can have that lost and a
gift not too far.

Speaker 3 (35:09):
Too, you know, a few years in between.

Speaker 16 (35:12):
Basically, yeah, yeah, exactly. And Cayln is.

Speaker 17 (35:18):
Opposite her birth mom and.

Speaker 16 (35:24):
In that her personality, the way she looks, all of
this are not daily reminders for me about my daughter,
which is a blessing for me. And it allows me
this opportunity too, to have what I would call a
do over. You know that you have an opportunity to

(35:45):
recollect you know what happened during those formative.

Speaker 17 (35:48):
Years for Megan.

Speaker 16 (35:49):
Where was I wrong? What could I do differently? And
I've got to do over? Opportunity here to correct anything
that I wished I had done differently.

Speaker 17 (35:58):
And I know that many of us may be feeling
that off. I just know what I knew today. You
know I would have done it that way.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
So and you get to and you get to do it.
You get to do it now. The truth is, though
she's your daughter, you've adopted her, but she's as well
as like a granddaughter because you are, you know, later
on in your life, and do you worry about not
being around?

Speaker 16 (36:28):
Of course, So every day I'm making sure that she
knows exactly how to connect with me. Interestingly, we're also
caring for my ninety four year old parents. There's a
lot of similarities between six and ninety four.

Speaker 7 (36:43):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
You know, you know one of the things that has
always stayed with me when I think about you, you
have this gift to take a moment that's really heartbreaking
in your life and you do a switch and you
can go from sad to happy quickly.

Speaker 3 (37:01):
And I know you even.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Had a breakup way back in high school, right, Mike,
Dear Mike.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
Right, it was like a breakup and then a minute later,
all of a sudden, this teenage Judith was poppy and happy,
but actually you weren't.

Speaker 2 (37:15):
Judith then you were Judy. So recently, in recent years
you gave up Judy. How you'd always been known to
become Judith. What was that story and why?

Speaker 17 (37:30):
It was like a lightning bolt hit me.

Speaker 16 (37:33):
Shortly after I had moved down to Las Vegas, and
all of a sudden, I was like, everybody had to
call me Judith. I would not recognize Judy. It was
very interesting. And it was a month before I met my.

Speaker 24 (37:51):
Current husband, so he's only known you as Judith, but
to everybody else, she is only Yep, you know you
you We we went kind of quickly, I know, over
the early years of you know, your life, and and
all the husbands and again the passion for music, the

(38:12):
passion for love. Do you feel like you've left anything
on the table. Do you feel like there's anything that
you I mean, obviously choices you might have done.

Speaker 2 (38:22):
Differently with Megan, but any other regrets, things that you
wish you could do.

Speaker 16 (38:27):
Over hmm, Not really, because I'm able to look at
how doors opened correctly that I might not have seen otherwise.
So I'm able to accept the way that my life

(38:49):
has unfolded because of the track that is that it
is constantly this invisible track that it's constantly kept me
on where I've been able to follow my heart and
constantly do what feeds my heart and my mind and
my spirit.

Speaker 2 (39:07):
Well exactly, and at the end of the day today
we're talking about in this show, you know, giving what
you can and how do you cut that off? Because
you're you're kind of an overachiever overgiver. How do you
draw that boundary.

Speaker 16 (39:25):
I'm actually an introvert, and so when I require a
lot of personal time, So in the midst of having
a six year old and a husband and caretaking parents
that you know that may need me at any point.
They don't live with me, they live independently. It's important

(39:47):
for me to have my downtime so that I can
contemplate life, so that I can understand what is going on,
so that I can open the doors through through God
about what the possibilities might be without actually naming them.

Speaker 17 (40:07):
Because I know that when you.

Speaker 16 (40:10):
Are actively doing and you take the time to understand
what it is you're doing, and you can what is
it that feeds your heart?

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Well, the thing is the thing is you need that
down time to rejuvenate and to replenish and I, Judith,
you are such a great example of living full out.
I got to tell you I am just cheering you
on with all that you have circling around you, which
is a lot, but you you are a great example
of truly living full out. Thank you for being on

(40:43):
the show and for everybody. We'll be right back.

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When it comes to giving what you can, one might
think I'm just gonna give a little bit, but you
know what I say, go big because the truth is
we have the here and the now. You want to
make sure that you are living a life of purpose.
So when it comes to that, don't go small. You
want your purpose to be in bright lights.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
You want to make sure that you're making a difference,
and so to do that, you have to give back
in a big way. That's what it means to live
full out.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
You're listening to Living full Out with Nancy Solary. As
a professional motivational speaker. Nancy can assist you to blow
through your setbacks and start living full out. If you
have an inspirational story you want to share, email us
at connect at livingfullout dot com. Once again, here's Nancy.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Thank you so.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Much for joining us today. I'm Nancy Larry and this
is the Living Full Out Show, and we've been talking
about giving what you can and I want to share
a couple of tips that have kept me kind of grounded.
I would say I believe in affirmations, I believe in mantras,
and I think the words that come out of our

(46:18):
mouth are really important. The minute you say something, your
head heel hears it, your heart feels it, your core,
your soul, everything, It just resonates through your body. So
in some ways you want to choose your words wisely.
But when those thoughts come into your mind, like I
literally sometimes will get an overwhelming thought, or I'll think

(46:42):
of something that doesn't serve me and I will say
go away, and I kid you not, it goes away.
It's the weirdest thing. Or I have another mantra that
I use quite often, and I get a lot of
people that come to me. I really love being a
good listener. I love giving advice. I find that I

(47:03):
would rather listen and be of service than to just
chat and pretend I know it all right. I think
it the greatest gift you can give anyone is to listen.
But because I have so many people that do come
to me in any given day. I sometimes have to
quantify things I do. And if somebody has something that

(47:24):
has gone wrong and it super has nothing to do
with me, I mean it's maybe their fantasy football you know,
quarterback you know, got injured, right, that kind of falls
into the not my problem bucket. You know, you at
some point you can't take on everything because you have

(47:46):
to make sure that as you give to others that
you do take time to replenish that you do kind of,
you know, clear out the clutter, as they would say,
in your mind, in your environment, in your relationships, in
your business. It's not like life is.

Speaker 3 (48:05):
Ever going to be perfect.

Speaker 2 (48:07):
But the more you can get rid of what's toxic,
what is just that clutter, that junk, that absorbing space
in your mind and in your environment, that doesn't help you,
that it kind of burdens you down. But I believe
when you can be more organized, when you can choose
your words, when you can have you know, mantras that

(48:29):
you can speak out loud that kind of keep things
in check, you're able to tap into living your life
a purpose. And I'll tell you what, Going legally blind
has not been a walk in the park. I remember
back when I was sixteen and they told my mom,
her single mom with three daughters, that all your daughters
have rerittenitis pigmentosa. They're all going to go blind by forty.

(48:52):
That was right around Thanksgiving. That was a tough Thanksgiving.
And truly, I for sure a cure would come. Now
I'll tell you it's been decades now and a cure
has never come. And so for me, life is blurry
and grainy and just patches of dark, a little bit
of light, mainly dark, and I have to live life

(49:15):
through all my other senses. But it has also taught
me to work with nonprofits and to learn low vision
aids and talking devices.

Speaker 3 (49:26):
And oh I got my cute, loving.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Guide dog, Frost, through Guide Dogs for the Blind. And
so when I created the TV show Nonprofit MVP. You
can go to nonprofit MVP dot com to check it out.
I created that so that I could give back. Now
today we're talking about giving.

Speaker 22 (49:46):
What you can.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Well, I knew to produce that show, I couldn't do
it alone. I couldn't I needed experts. I needed, you know,
people to help bring that vision to life, bring that
show to life. But I knew that if we could
create such a show that you had boot camps and
taught valuable lessons for how people could manage volunteers, connect

(50:09):
with donors, you know, have an effective digital media presence.
I knew that if nonprofits could grow and be strong,
then they would further help recipients like me, because all
the nonprofits that have helped me over the years, Gosh,
what if they had folded, What if they had gone
out of business, what if they didn't have the marketing

(50:32):
that allowed me to even find them as a consumer.
So it was very important to me to give back.
But knowing that I could not do that show all myself,
even when I think of the living, full out show,
this very show we're in right now, can't do it myself.

Speaker 3 (50:49):
Nope. We've got Brent and Dirk and Julie from time
to time here in the studio. And the thing is,
so many of us that are here with you are
here because we want you to get the inspiration.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
We want you to get that aha moment. But again,
I do what I can. I'm sitting here in the seat,
I'm talking to you.

Speaker 3 (51:08):
But you better believe it.

Speaker 2 (51:09):
No one needs the blind girl working the board, doing
the mixer.

Speaker 3 (51:12):
Doing this doing that editing right.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
And so it takes oftentimes a team in our life
to make the wheels on the car turn. So when
you're thinking today about giving what you can, literally give
what you can, but you know connect and you know
loop arms, you know, go together as a team and
make that difference, make that impact. That truly is the

(51:38):
secret sauce to life. Now, Remember, if you want to
hear the show again, go to livingfullout dot com. All
of our episodes are waiting for you. Remember, you can
also hear us on Alexa if you put the Living
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(51:59):
every stay up of the way as you do what
that's right, Live full Out.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Thank you for listening to the Living full Out Show
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