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September 13, 2025 52 mins
Episode: 2025.11.30

The Living Full Out Show with Nancy Solari encourages you to harness patience. We can overcome any challenge by staying persistent, taking our time, and approaching situations with a readiness to adapt as needed. Embracing patience and rolling with the ebbs and flows of life can equip us with the resilience to live full out.

Our first caller, Lucy, is grappling with vision loss. Nancy advises her to be grateful for the senses she still has and to hone her hearing and smell to guide her through the world.
Our inspirational guest, Kim Curry, began working in the radio industry at age 17 when his father connected him with the general manager of their local station. From there, Kim adopted the radio name “Kid Curry” and led a successful thirty-year career. Everything changed when Kim was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis and had to make the difficult decision to retire. Now, he expresses himself through writing and serves as an activist for the MS community. Tune in to hear how Kim has transformed his outlook on living with a disability and uses his platform to provide hope for others dealing with similar experiences.  

So many situations in life are beyond our immediate control, but when we work through adversity with patience, we can make our way to the other side. Understanding that we hold the power to choose a suitable approach to addressing every situation can enable us to live full out.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening the Living Full Out with Nancy Solari. As
a professional motivational speaker, Nancy can assist you to blow
through your setbacks and start living full out. If you
have an inspirational story you want to share, email us
at connect at livingfollout dot com. Once again, here's Nancy.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Hello, and welcome to The Living Full Out Show. My
name is Nancy Solari, and today we're going to be
talking about harnessing patients. Now, I know you're all saying, Nancy,
that's easier said than done, but I promise you even
when we fall and we have moments where we make
a mistake or we fail, it allows us to see
a different side of ourselves aside where we rally, where

(00:39):
we have strength, and in that comes patients. So we're
going to be talking about that throughout today's show. Also,
make sure you stay with us. Our inspirational guest Kim Curry,
truly an amazing man. We'll be sharing with us about
having multiple scrosis and what that's been like and how
he's taken his power back and really lives life on
his term. Really inspiring story. Can't we wait to share that. Also,

(01:03):
we want to make sure that you go check us
out on social media because beyond Kim and all the
other guests that we have on the show, we constantly
want to give you more and more stories. So you
might identify with Kim's story today, or it might be
someone else, but we always want to keep you motivated. Also,
remember if you're on the go, traveling around and going

(01:24):
to the gym or whatever that looks like, remember to
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Full Out Show app. It's free and you can listen
to us on the go. Now I'm giving word from
our producer that we did a listener on the line.
We're going to go check in with them. Hello, welcome
to the Living Full Out Show. Hi there, Hi, How
can I help you?

Speaker 3 (01:47):
Well, I'm sorry to start the showing a downer. I
know you deal with vision laws and I am dealing
with vision laws, and you seem good about it, and
I find the vision I have I'm trying to hold
on to, but there's times that I can't see as well,

(02:12):
and it's hurtfault and you seem to handle it really well,
and so I just would like to know how you're
able to deal with it and accept it more because
you know, it's easy to get mad and sad, and

(02:35):
so I just wanted to know because I know you've
dealt with that, and you know, I'm sure everyone who
has some kind of disability or problem, you know, knows
what I'm going through. And I guess that right now,
I don't have total vision loss, but you know, as
I was a visions it scares me and you but
it does make me you know, it's lost. And like

(03:00):
I said, you seem to handle your vision loss well,
and I just don't know how you do it.

Speaker 2 (03:07):
It's a really really good question. And if you think
that I don't have those piemes where I cry, then
that is that's not true. However, you know, it's interesting
my vision loss has gone so far away that obviously
I have my guide dog, Frost, which everyone knows about.
And it's interesting. I can, for example, be at my

(03:31):
computer and I use talking software called Jaws, and I
might look in the direction of my computer even though
I can't see it, because in some ways I've learned
to see with my brain. Now, thankfully, I'm a pretty
visual person in my brain and always have been. But
that is how I choose to see. So when I

(03:54):
think about meeting someone and I know I can't really
see them, but in the moment what I meeting them,
I'm not even thinking about being legally blind or visually impaired.
I'm just meeting this random person out of nowhere, and
in my brain it fills in through their handshake, through
their embrace, through their voice, what I think they look like.

(04:18):
And the more you use your other senses for me
that that brain and it fills in what you think
someone looks like, what a sunset looks like. It actually
makes the sadness, It makes the loss disappear a little
bit more and more over time. It's like it's like

(04:39):
a muscle that you work. And so I can literally
be on vacation and people will be like, oh gosh,
how pretty the water is, and I can actually say,
oh my gosh, it's so nice to be here. It
is so beautiful because in my mind, I I've already
taught myself to fill in blalue water, blue green water,

(05:01):
whatever that looks like. Now again, it's not to say
that it doesn't come with times that I don't see
a TV and I run into it and I've got
a black eye, or I miss a step and I
fall down the stairs, and those come with moments of gosh,
did I break anything? Because those are those are my transportation, right,

(05:23):
the legs and the hands and all that good stuff.
So there are unsettling moments amongst the confident moments. Then
you also lean on your other senses. So when I
am out and about and believe it or not, I
remember one time being in Santa Monica, California, Wilshire Boulevard

(05:43):
for all of you who know the area, and I
was starving. I was going I was doing real estate
at the time, and I smelt bread and I was like, oh,
I know that that is subway. Where is that subway?
Could not see subway, but I followed the smell hair
because at that point I didn't have my guide dog.
And finally I got the sense that somebody was walking

(06:06):
near me and I said excuse me, and the person
said yes, and I said, gosh, you know, is there
a subway near here? And they're like, oh, you're really close.
It's the next building. It's just the next door. So
I had to walk a little bit more and there
it was. And so sometimes you have to let those
other senses be your guide. Now, is it scary vision loss, absolutely,

(06:31):
but is it something that is terminal. Not always. Sometimes
some conditions come with a visual aspect where you lose
your vision and it is terminal, but not always. And
so I've learned over time to also lean on gratitude
in the sense that for me, if I couldn't hear music,

(06:53):
if I couldn't hear people talk and I was sitting
at a table, I'd rather feel lonely, not them. But
if I couldn't hear them to me, that would be harder.
Or I think to myself, because I do live on
a second story and I like being on the top floor,
then it would be harder if I couldn't go up

(07:16):
and downstairs because I like to be on the top floor.
So you kind of have to start to negotiate in life.
So one of the things I just want to ask
you about today is is there a secondary sense that
you rely on most besides your vision?

Speaker 4 (07:40):
Faith?

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Okay? And would you say that as you've turned to faith,
like how I turn to my mind, as you've turned
to faith, has that gotten stronger?

Speaker 4 (07:57):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (07:59):
Okay? And so you're on the right track with turning
to faith and you're seeing it get stronger and so
if you were to lean on the other senses, in time,
they too would get stronger. And one of the things

(08:20):
that you have to also think about is, although losing
one's vision is scary, do you have other things in
your life, Like if you had to choose between eyesight
and something else, something else that you love a lot,

(08:44):
pick a loved one in your life. You had to
choose between this loved one or my eyesight, what would
you choose?

Speaker 3 (08:53):
Like, you know me, yeah, yeah, I take that person.

Speaker 5 (08:58):
M h.

Speaker 2 (09:00):
So life is full of negotiations, and that is true,
whether you're dealing with negotiating vision loss, whether you're negotiating
in a relationship, do I stay or do I go?
Whether it's in a job I hate my job, I
love my job. But if life were easy, right, we'd
all just be living a harmonious life. But you're bound

(09:24):
to be a better person for going through this process.
And it sounds like, at least on the side of
your faith, do you feel like you've grown. Do you
feel like you're a better person because you've worked that power?

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (09:43):
And so what would be beyond faith? What's another sense
that you rely on?

Speaker 3 (09:51):
Hearing?

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Okay, so get even let hearing become more of your
guide even more so. I mean, I don't know about you,
but I use that technology a lot, right, So I
hear a lot, so I'm sure you do too. But
hang in there, you know, lean on those senses. You'll
definitely feel more comfort over time. I appreciate you calling

(10:16):
in very much and we'll continue to pray for you.
Thank you and for everyone else listening today. We are
talking about harnessing patients and it's not easy. It takes time,
but we have to believe that we can get through
the hard times. When you believe you can, that silver

(10:38):
lining's there, that light at the end of the tunnels there.
You just got to keep hoping. Stay with us. We're
going to be coming right back with Kim Curry again,
a man who's gone through it himself with multiple scross
Stay with us. We'll be right back after this break.

Speaker 6 (11:01):
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(11:24):
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(11:45):
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Speaker 4 (12:03):
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Speaker 11 (13:01):
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Speaker 8 (13:05):
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Speaker 12 (13:07):
I just want to say that friendship is about heart,
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Speaker 10 (13:12):
Who's with me?

Speaker 9 (13:13):
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call me a ride.

Speaker 11 (13:20):
Love that guy, Me too.

Speaker 9 (13:21):
Know your buzzed warning signs, call for a ride when
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Speaker 7 (13:25):
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Speaker 4 (13:34):
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Galaxy safe once again.

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Speaker 15 (13:58):
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(14:27):
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Speaker 1 (15:00):
You're listening to living Full Out with Nancy Silary As
a life coach. Nancy can teach you how to stay
strong under pressure and work through challenges you face being
legally blind. Nancy inspires others to be resilient and overcoming
obstacles and live full out. You can ask Nancy for
advice in your life on relationships, finance, business, health, and more.

(15:22):
Just call in at eight hundred three three three zero
zero zero one. Once again, that's eight hundred three three
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Speaker 2 (15:33):
Welcome back. I'm Nancy Silarian. This is the Living Full
Out Show, and today we're talking about harnessing patients. And
as promised, I brought our inspirational guest today, Kim Curry
to the show, who's going to share with us about
his journey in discovery. He had multiple scross but watch
out everyone because his nickname is Kid Curry and he

(15:55):
is a ball of energy.

Speaker 16 (15:57):
So welcome Ken.

Speaker 17 (16:00):
Good morning, Nancy. How are you today?

Speaker 5 (16:02):
I am good.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
I really had to do like some push ups this
morning to keep up with your energy level because you know,
MS picked on the wrong man. That is what I
will say. But I want to let our audience know
that although you have been very successful in radio over
the years and just an entertainer at heart, it really

(16:23):
started for you at a young age. At seventeen. Your
father was a newsman at a radio station, and one
day he came home and he said, you know, the
general manager would like for you to babysit. And you
thought it meant his kids, but it actually meant what.

Speaker 17 (16:41):
Well. I was a bit surprised because the way I
made my money when I was in high school was
babysitting my parents' friends kids, and so when he said
he needs you to babysit, I thought, well, I'll go
to the radio station, I'll pick up his kids, and
I'll go babysit them. Well, when I got there, the
general manager had a completely different idea of what babysit.
That meant every Sunday morning my local hometown, I come

(17:04):
from a very small town in Colorado, there's only one
radio station. That radio station would record the church services
and then the next week they would play them back
on the radio on Sunday morning. And nobody wanted that job,
so they needed someone to come in and babysit the
radio station while the tapes were being played on Sunday morning.
So that's how I got my start in the radio business.

(17:27):
My dad got me my first job.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
Now, you know the thing is go babysitters, right, You
never know what that's going to look like.

Speaker 7 (17:33):
That's a good thing.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
But although you had the connection to your dad, you
actually had to work for it because you know, the
kids of today don't have to take the same tests
that you did. But you actually had to pass a
test to stay in the job.

Speaker 17 (17:50):
Back in those days, before Ronald Reagan deregulated all of broadcasting,
or most of broadcasting, there were three different licenses you
had to attain in order to either be on the
radio or work on radio station equipment. The least important
of these was the third class license, and that third
class license just allowed a DJ to go into a

(18:11):
studio and touch the buttons and talk and then change
the records on the turntable. And that was what I
had to go take a test at. Now, this was
a difficult job in that you had to know physics
because you're you also had to learn how to figure
power formulas the power that's coming out of the transmitter,

(18:32):
So there are some specific formulas that you need to know. Now,
I had done my best to learn these formulas and
thought for sure I could pass the test. My father
took this test and passed it the third time. The
first time it took me three attempts to pass the
same test. But it was good because it really got

(18:53):
me interested in the business and the way that radio
really functions, how it works out of a transmitter, et cetera.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
Well, and you went on to be wildly successful, you know,
twenty plus years and you got to be known as
Kid Curry. But where did that nickname come from?

Speaker 17 (19:13):
Well, after I'd been in college, I went to the
University of Southern Colorado they called it back then Southern
Colorado State College. I went for two and a half
years studying broadcasting after I got out of high school.
And after a couple of years of doing that and
working part time at a local top forty radio station,
I thought it was my turn to go out and

(19:34):
try to get myself a full time job. I got
interest from a few stations in the country, but there
was one in Knoxville, Tennessee that decided they were going
to hire me. So as I'm driving across the country,
I'm going to be the new DJ on fifteen Q
and my show starts at ten pm at night. So
I thought, you know, back in those days, Wolfman Jack

(19:54):
was a big name, the Boogeyman, you had Doctor Brock,
the ugliest jock in rock. You had to come up
with a cool name. So I thought, because I'm going
on the radio at ten PM, I'd call myself Night Smoke. Well,
I got to the radio station. I drove up in Knoxville,
walked up the stairs at the radio station, and when

(20:15):
I opened the door, there was the receptionist lady, and
then there was a big guy behind her with a
Hawaiian shirt on and really dysfunctional hair. It was sticking
out everywhere, and I reached out and shop. I reached
out to shake the hand of the receptionist and I said,
hello there, I'm your new nighttime disc jockey, Night Smoke.
And the guy behind her said, well, if it isn't

(20:36):
Kid Curry. And back in the seventies there was a
TV show alias Smith and Jones. It was the takeoff
of Butch Cassidy and the Sun Dance Kid, and it
was a Western type of show and one of the
characters was named Kid Curry. So he immediately thought, well,
we're not going to call this guy Kim Curry on
the radio. We'll call him Kid Curry. So when he

(20:59):
said that to me, I said, I hate that name.
And the reason I didn't like it was because all
my high school friends used to bug me because there
was that TV show and they behaved it's Kid Curry. Well,
I didn't like it. So when I told him I
didn't like the name Kid Curry, he says, well, then
I won't sign your check. And I replied, well, Kid Curry,

(21:20):
it is very smart thing. For it was the best
thing I could have ever done because that name and
my style on the radio identified me as one. Back then,
there were you know, five six thousand radio stations in
America and everybody had different DJs, but there was only
one Kid Curry. So it ended up being the greatest

(21:41):
thing that ever happened because it really established my show
and my relation to my listeners with a very unique name.

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Well, and you know, your life has a way of
sneaking up on us, right. We can think it's going
to go one way, and then it goes another right,
and you become a whole new personality throughout your success.
Though you had several different marriages, you had two wonderful kiddos,
And what do you feel though, was your top secret

(22:12):
to success before we go to break here, because again
it's a competitive industry.

Speaker 17 (22:19):
Well, I've always thought that I was going to work
harder than everybody else. You know, I was a trumpet
player in high school, and I was in real good competition.
The number one and number two trumpet players in America
were seniors and I was a junior. So I really
had to establish myself as a trumpet player against two

(22:40):
very established guys who were nationally known in high school.
So I always thought that I would work harder than
everybody else. So my mission was to get my radio
show to be so good that I could I could
beat everybody. And I was lucky enough that the people
that I worked for taught me very smart things about
being on the radio, and I always had great ratings

(23:02):
and it worked out really well for me. But as
I was going through my career, I did have, you know,
a couple of marriages.

Speaker 4 (23:09):
You know.

Speaker 17 (23:09):
I was listening to a bon job interview recently, and
bon Jovi it's in print that he had had relations
with over one hundred women, and he told the interviewer,
he said, but I was bon Jovi, and you know,
it's almost the same thing with me. I was kid Curry,
a famous radio DJ in America, and little girls liked

(23:30):
me and it really messed up my life for quite
some time.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Well, you know, you know the thing is we you
bon job, all of us from time to time make mistakes,
but it's what we do with it. And I know
that's been actually a theme in your life, is what
you do with it. So I want you to stay
with us, kid Curry, kim Aka, all of that, and
we're going to be coming right back because there's more

(23:56):
to your story when you start to discover what MS means.
We'll be right back after this break. Stay with us Today.

Speaker 18 (24:04):
In school, I learned a lot. In chemistry, I learned
that no one likes me. In English, I learned that
I'm disgusting, And in Physics, I learned that I'm a loser.

Speaker 13 (24:16):
Today in school, I learned that I'm ugly and useless.
In jim I learned that I'm pathetic in a joke.
In History today, I learned that I'm trying.

Speaker 19 (24:26):
Today in school, I learned that I have no friends.
In English, I learned that I make people sick. And
at lunch, I learned that I sit on my own
because I smell. In chemistry, I learned.

Speaker 14 (24:38):
That no one In biology, I learned that I'm fat
and stupid.

Speaker 13 (24:42):
And in math, I learned that I'm trash.

Speaker 18 (24:46):
The only thing I didn't learn in school today, the
only thing I didn't learn today.

Speaker 7 (24:49):
The only thing I didn't learn is why no one.

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Speaker 2 (25:04):
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Speaker 1 (28:04):
You're listening to Living Full Out with Nancy Solary. With
Nancy's expertise, you'll learn how to embrace your potential and
strive for success. If you have a question or need
further support, send us an email at connect at livingfollout
dot com. Now here's Nancy.

Speaker 2 (28:22):
Thank you for joining us today. I'm Nancy Silari and
this is the Living Full Out Show, and today we
are joined by our inspirational guest, Kim Curry. And Kim
has been sharing with us all about his successful journey
in radio and how he got there. And I'd like
to take kind of a pivot here and bring Kim
back into the show. Welcome.

Speaker 17 (28:45):
Thank you for having me again today, Nancy, I appreciate
that absolutely.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
Now, you and I, although we come from two different
walks of life with two different health conditions. I remember
when I was told I had RP, which is retin
I pigmentosa and I learned all about that. And at
forty nine, you were diagnosed with MS. Another great two

(29:09):
letters there, which is multiple sclerosis. Now for our audience
who may not know what that is, and there's different types,
can you share with them what it is and which
type you have, just so we can kind of anchor.

Speaker 17 (29:21):
That multiple sclerosis has a variety of different things that happen.
Mainly it's the lesions that cure occur on your brain.
You get lesions on your brain, and depending on where
those lesions land is where you are going to be affected.
I had lesions that were growing in my brain for

(29:42):
quite some time, and they affect my lower legs from
my midside down. You know, it's funny. I had had
MS exacerbations my entire life. I just didn't know what
they were. I was in fifth grade and I was
running in that presidential fitness test. And we're talking seventies,
so it was a long time ago. But everybody did

(30:03):
that six hundred yard presidential fitness test, and while I
was running, I didn't feel that my feet were touching
the ground, and I kept falling down. Later in life,
I thought that I'd been bitten by fire ants because
my right arm suddenly started to curl up and I
started losing vision in my right eye. Again. Later I
thought I maybe been stung by killer bees because I

(30:24):
was losing feeling in my right shoulder. I had all
sorts of spots in front of my eyes. Well. When
I turned forty nine, my wife and I and my
kids were out here in Colorado visiting my mother, and
through a series of circumstances, she kept looking at my
wife and saying, there's something wrong with Kim's face. It

(30:44):
doesn't look right. And I used to tell her that Mom,
I had the most stressful job in the world. I
was running the biggest radio station in Miami, and we
were experiencing at that time, we were actually watching television
and watching one of these tsunamis and how devastating the
tsunami was. So I just told my mom, Mom, this
is just terrible. I'm really understressed because of what I'm

(31:05):
seeing and how hard I work. But she got to
my wife, and my wife insisted that I get to
a doctor, and through a series of about two months
of testing, they diagnosed me with multiple sclerosis right when
I turned fifty years old. The other thing that happens
with MS is the nerves that we have in our
body are covered by a thing called myolin, and MS patients,

(31:29):
for some reason, the violin disappears in nerves, so in
variety of places in my legs, I can't feel anything.
I can't stand. I can stand up, but I can't walk.
I can't move my legs to take a step. So
these things all manifested themselves when I turned fifty, when
I was diagnosed well, and.

Speaker 2 (31:49):
Over time you went from walking to it being harder
to walk, to a cane ultimately a wheelchair. And what
is interesting is again you have a larger than life personality,
you are Kid Curry, But around fifty you made an
agreement with the station that you would focus on your health,

(32:12):
that you would retire. And you had always been able
to walk into a room and everybody kind of flocked
to you. But when you now rolled into the room
in your wheelchair, that was gone.

Speaker 17 (32:25):
Why was that?

Speaker 10 (32:27):
It?

Speaker 17 (32:27):
Really it was the biggest mental problem I had in
the beginning was not only was I diagnosed with the
chronic disease that I had no clue was going to
do to me, but I lost my personality. Because when
you're Kid Curry, you're the guy running the biggest radio
station in Miami, and you've been a very famous DJ
in cities across America. People gravitated towards me my entire career.

(32:51):
But then when I got MS and you start walking
in crutches and then you roll in in a wheelchair,
nobody wants to be next to you. And it took
me a long time to try to deal with that.
But it was something my wife said one time, after
I was about eight or nine years into my battle
with multiple sclerosis. She said, you know, you just got
to stop being so mad about being in that wheelchair

(33:14):
and that really stuck to me for some reason. There
was no reason for me to be mad because there
was nothing anyone could do. So the same guy, I
figured it out, the same guy who everybody used to
gravitate too because I had the biggest radio station in Miami,
is the same guy who rolls in in the wheelchair.
I get everybody's attention when I roll into every room

(33:35):
because I'm the guy in the wheelchair. So I now
take control of my environment. I'm the first one to
say hello, I smile at the kids. Little dogs love
me because I'm at their height. So whenever I walk
into a room, I now control the room. But I
can guarantee you that it took eight, nine, maybe even
ten years to finally figure out that I was the

(33:57):
same guy. I just needed to learn how to control
the room the way that it was always controlled when
I walked into a room. So it did help me.
Thank you for my wife. She really fixed me on
that one.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
Oh, let's hear it for Elizabeth.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
Yay.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
But but but one of the things I appreciate so
much about your story is just like you just did
that honesty, that reflection. But I know that you and
I experience both the same frustrations with our disabilities. When
you're within your you know, the four walls of your
own home, right, I mean, you've really had to outfit

(34:37):
your home to meet your needs so that you can
be independent.

Speaker 8 (34:41):
And in what way have you had to do that?

Speaker 17 (34:44):
Well? My wife has. She has insisted that I would
have a normal life. At every step of this journey,
she has insisted I had the best doctors, the best therapists.
I had the best equipment. She has made sure that
I could drive around in my car. She buys me

(35:04):
hand controls. I drive with my hands. She insists that
I can get into any buildings. So I've got wheelchairs,
one in my car, and I have two wheelchairs at home.
I have a stair lift. It gets me from all
to all three levels of my home. In order to
get out of the garage, I have a lift that
gets me into the main level, and on the back

(35:26):
side of the house, I have another lift that gets
me from the main level to my backyard. So I
can enjoy life. But this is all my wife's doing.
She is the one who decided that, regardless of what
it costs, we were going to make sure that I
had the best life possible now. In my memoir Come
get Me Mother, I'm Through, I specifically discuss how it

(35:48):
costs to be disabled in America. All these things that
my wife does for me, we get no government support.
I wouldn't be able to get up and down the
stairs of my home if it wasn't from my stair lift.
It's a thirty thousand dollars stare lift that my wife
paid for. I have two fifteen thousand dollars lifts that
get into my property. Again, no government assistance on that.

(36:10):
And so I really rail against our health system here
in America. And it's a shame that you and I
people like us have to live like we're not normal
just because of what happened to us. So my wife
insists that I live a life as close to normal
as possible, and I really appreciate that for her.

Speaker 2 (36:33):
You know, it's interesting when I mean, again, you are
wildly successful right in radio and in entertainment overall, but
then you know, you did get diagnosed with MS and
that brought, you know, challenges into your life which you
and your wife together have conquered. But in what way
do you feel like it has given you a sense

(36:54):
of purpose that maybe radio did not give you.

Speaker 17 (36:58):
Well, I can tell you that one thing that you
and I have both had to learn is patience. I
am I have to have I have to have patience.
I've lived in a business. I worked in a business
where I had people working for me on my studio,
I had phone people that would answer my telephones, people
that help me edit stuff. Things happen in my life

(37:21):
immediately because live radio is such that it needs to
be done now. Well, when you're in a wheelchair and
you roll out of a room and you forgot something,
you got to stop and roll all the way back,
get in and grab what you need and come all
the way back in. Sometimes I have to I have
to transfer from my wheelchair to get into my walking lift,

(37:42):
and when that happens, I'll forget something. Had to go
all the way back to my wheelchair, go all the
way back to my room. So I've learned patience, and
something that there was really important in my life was
to learn that patience. But you know, I can tell
you that one of the best things that happened to me,
and I think we've discussed it, the best thing that
ever happened to me was my diagnosis of multiple sclerosis.

(38:05):
I really needed to change my life. I needed to
slow down and learn how to smell the coffee. I
needed to be able to connect with my wife more.
My wife has had an amazing change.

Speaker 14 (38:18):
You know.

Speaker 17 (38:18):
I was a pretty important radio guy for a long time,
but when I got diagnosed, my wife had to take over.
In the very beginning of the diagnosis, we took all
our money and came out here to Colorado to do
fix and flipping of houses. Well, she didn't like the
way the real estate agents were treating her, and so
she went out and got her own real estate license,

(38:39):
and within a year I had started breaking per capita
records in the state of Colorado on houses sold, and
in one year she sold one hundred and twenty three houses.
So that got the attention of the corporate office. She
was working for Keller Williams at the time, and they
decided they were going to have her start to coach
people on how to sell house. So my wife has

(39:01):
gone from being my data the Grammys, went into becoming
a real estate agent, became a consultant to teach people
how to do real estate, and throughout all of that
is now the CEO of a major real estate company
that has offices now in six different states. So the
best thing that happened to me was being diagnosed with

(39:23):
MS because I had to get my life together. My
doctors have done the right thing by changing my medicine
at the right time. After about eight years, they changed
my medicine and my condition has not gotten any worse
and it's not gotten any better for the last ten years.
So things have gone pretty well for me. And my
wife is now the superstar in my family. I'm real

(39:45):
proud of her.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
You know what, you are not only just a good
man overall, but you know, really a good husband for
to intuitively kind of pass that torch to her, because
it's a lot both of you to have that winning
moments in life in your careers, and so, you know,
I want to thank you so much, Kim for sharing

(40:07):
your story today. And I could just keep talking to you,
but we were running out of time. And thank you
for being a good voice for those who have MS
as well. And we're going to, you know, keep our
eye on you and cheer you on.

Speaker 17 (40:21):
Thank you so much, Nancy, thank you for your time today.
I've always enjoyed speaking with you. Let's do it again.

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Love, it all right, and for everybody. When we come back,
we're going to continue talking about how to harness patients
so that you can truly get out there and live
your life full out.

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Speaker 2 (45:02):
When it comes to harnessing patients, it's okay to slow down.
Sometimes you just have to sit with yourself. You have
to calm your mind, calm your body, allow yourself the
time to assess, to reflect, so when you do take
those next steps, you're doing them with confidence. I think
when we get all rattled and concerned and stressed out,

(45:25):
it's hard to know what are the right moves to make,
and when you live full out, it is about taking
those steps with confidence.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
You're listening to Living Full Out with Nancy Solary. As
a professional motivational speaker, Nancy can assist you to blow
through your setbacks and start living full out. If you
have an inspirational story you want to share, email us
at connect at livingfullout dot com. Once again, here's Nancy.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
It has been so great to be with you today,
Nancy Silary. This is the Living Full Out Show and
we've been talking about harnessing patients and I hope throughout
today's show listening to our callers to our guests that
you know you've been able to find aspects of your
own life, or maybe you know that you need to
have more patients and maybe make some changes, And sometimes

(46:20):
that comes with being honest. I know for myself, one
of the things that comes with being visually impaired is
a lot of times you have to rely on consistency.
Like for me, it's much better if the remote control
is on the same table when people are done with it.
That way, I'm not hunting for it all over on

(46:41):
couches and other tables. But with that comes people bending
and being like, Okay, well I'll put the remote here
because I know it's easier for Nancy. And sometimes, you know,
when I'm in a new area and I, although I
have my guide dog, you know, I don't want to fall.
I'm uncertain surroundings. You know, I might ask a friend,

(47:03):
you know, can I grab your arm, And although that
seems like a natural yes answer, sometimes it's a yes,
and sometimes it's a you know, hold my shirt behind
my back or you know, follow my voice, just because
sometimes there's tight horders. Sometimes I have a single friend
of mine who who would prefer that we're not locking

(47:25):
arms armed at arm because she, you know, wants to
know be single and be herself and I respect that too.
So sometimes when you have a disability, although things may
be easier if they're done a certain way, what I've
learned is I actually have to have a lot of
patience because it can't always be Nancy's way. It can't

(47:48):
always be that the remote is on the same table
all the time, because sometimes people just do what they
do and sometimes it is tight horders or somebody may
want to not walk arm in arm and you have
to respect that too, And so for everybody it's going
to be different. What I've learned in time is to
always be humble enough and bold enough to ask. And

(48:13):
when you're willing to ask, whether you're at the office
and you're you're up against a deadline and you need
just some support, ask, Now that person has the right
to say no, they have to write to say gosh,
I've got somewhere I've got to go.

Speaker 16 (48:26):
I wish I could.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
And you can't be angry for them for that. You know,
it's if they can help you, they will, If they can't,
they can't. And if there's you know, people in your
life that you know, have their own dilemmas that they're
dealing with. You know, it's interesting in life. This is
what patience has also taught me.

Speaker 4 (48:46):
It would be so.

Speaker 2 (48:47):
Easy if we were all mind readers, right, It'd be
easy if we knew what was happening in everybody's world.
It would be easier if we all lived in glass
houses and we just you know, had the instant sense
of what everybody was managing in terms of responsibilities and challenges.
But we don't. So sometimes again that the patience has

(49:10):
to be about being understanding, and you know you hear
it all the time, you know, trying on somebody else's shoe.
It truly is that. So even though I may look
at myself as hey, I'm the one with the disability,
you know, sometimes, believe it or not, I've learned over
time is my visual impairment. Although it is a disability,

(49:32):
Sometimes a broken heart is worse. Sometimes somebody who is
dealing with a lack of purpose, a lack of focus,
that is actually worse. To wander the planet not knowing
what am I supposed to do? Where am I supposed
to go? Will anybody love me? That is stressful? So

(49:52):
what I want you to do is is come away
from today's show. Just number one, always doing your best,
it's all you can do right. But number two, when
it comes to patients, it's patients with yourself. You know,
granted things happen, Try try again, right, fail, pick yourself up.
You know, all the things we've been taught, they are true,

(50:14):
they're not just you know, words of wisdom that go flat.

Speaker 17 (50:17):
They are real.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
And then also when it comes to patients, it is
about having that awareness, you know, be willing to step
out of our own stuff, our own challenges. You know,
I oftentimes talk about in my writing. You know sometimes
in life we're in the spotlight. You know, that's when
we're having successes. That's when you know something catastrophic is

(50:41):
happening and we're in the spotlight. It's intense, it's it's epic,
it's in the moment. And then sometimes you want to
go into the shadows and you want to give other
people the spotlight of success. Our guest today, Kim Curry,
spoke beautifully about that he put his wife in the
spotlight and he stepped into the shadows. Sometimes going into

(51:04):
the shadows means that, you know, you allow other people
to ask for help other people to, you know, to
speak and vent, and you be the sounding board for
them rather than always absorbing all the air. You know,
that is a lot of where patients comes in. But
most of all, you know, whether you are five years

(51:26):
old listening to our show, which makes you a really
smart child, or you're ninety nine right and you've been
hopefully a loyal listener, you know, if you can embrace patients,
you will be the big winner. It is absolutely a
secret to the success of Living full Out. The entire
family here listen listening, and the entire radio team. We

(51:50):
appreciate you listening. We want you to go out there,
just have a really great day, Smile big, laugh loud,
and most of all, make sure to harness having patience.
When you do that, you're able to live full out.

Speaker 17 (52:04):
See soon.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Thank you for listening to the Living Full Out Show
with Nancy Silari. To learn more about this program, visit
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