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May 31, 2025 52 mins
Episode: 2025.11.22

The Living Full Out Show with Nancy Solari explores how choosing to serve others can lead to lasting purpose and personal healing. Whether it is through mentorship, advocacy, or simply offering your time, acts of service have the power to transform your life and the lives of others Maybe you’ve been focused on your own challenges and feel disconnected from your sense of direction. Perhaps you’re looking for a deeper way to show up in the world. Join Nancy as she shares how When You Prioritize Serving Others, You Will Be Filled with Purpose and Live Full Out. Ultimately, proving how embracing your unique gifts can open unexpected doors and turn painful moments into meaningful impact.  

Our first caller, Alexander, a student in a school counseling program, asks how to instill empathy in those he counsels. Nancy encourages him to deepen his understanding of real-life challenges such as disability, grief, and trauma, so he can become a more effective and compassionate counselor. She emphasizes the value of listening, guiding others with relatable examples such as her own, in order to help others uncover their own strength. Tune in to hear how showing up with empathy can spark hope and healing.  

Our inspirational guest Dave Crete reveals how Serving Others became his greatest calling. After working in a classified military zone, Dave developed health issues that were later echoed by his fellow veterans—and even their children. What started as a private search for answers led to the discovery of long-buried truths about toxic exposure. Dave turned that pain into purpose by founding The Invisible Enemy Foundation, advocating for veterans who were unknowingly put at risk. Tune in to hear how Dave’s journey from silence to advocacy is helping bring justice to those still fighting invisible battles.  

Perhaps you’re unsure of your next step or feeling disconnected from your purpose. Try leaning into what moves you. Whether it's listening, giving, or standing up for others. Remember, when you lead with service, you uplift the world around you and find clarity and strength within yourself. That is what it truly means to live full out.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening the Living Full Out with Nancy Selari. As
a professional motivational speaker, Nancy can assist you to blow
through your setbacks and start living full out. If you
have an inspirational story you want to share, email us
at connect at livingfollout dot com. Once again, here's Nancy.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
Hello, and welcome to the Living Full Out Show. My
name is Nancy Silari, and today we're talking about serving
others and how we can find that moment in time,
that ability for us to take what we're really good
at and make somebody else's life easier. I mean, really,
that's the goal through our entire life is to gather
as many of those moments as we possibly can. And

(00:42):
our inspirational guest coming up, Dave Cree, is someone of
that same fabric that is his entire reason for getting
out of bed in the morning, but his path has
been unique and he's going to share with us how
today he's really had to heal from a lot of
guilt in his life and what does that look like
in me? So stay with us. Also, if you are

(01:02):
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of getting things together for the week, remember that we
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keep listening to shows and get inspired. That's what we're

(01:23):
here for.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:25):
I'm getting word from our producer that we do a
listener on the line. Let's go check in with them. Hello,
welcome to the Living Full Out Show. Hi, Hi, thank
you for calling in. How can I help you?

Speaker 4 (01:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (01:36):
I had a question actually prepared.

Speaker 6 (01:38):
I was wondering.

Speaker 5 (01:39):
So I'm a school counselor here at the University of
Stout or I'm in the school counseling program, and I
was just warnering, so for the future, how would you
recommend I instill empathy in the people that I wish
to counsel.

Speaker 2 (01:56):
That's a great question, And first of all, thank you
for going into that field. Because life has a lot
of storms to get through, right.

Speaker 6 (02:06):
And that's true.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
The best thing you can possibly do is to find
your way to being as relatable as possible to many scenarios. Okay,
and I'm glad to know that you listen to the show,
and I think as you listen to more of our
inspirational guest stories, you know, we have people that have
been abused, people have been diicted, people who have been homeless,

(02:31):
people who deal with disabilities, and whether it's our show,
whether it's books, other podcasts, whatever, you want to really
absorb as many real life scenarios of what people have
gone through and how they got through it, because counseling
and what I do coaching are similar. They are and

(02:54):
when somebody comes to you and they're trying to get
through one of those sensitive moments in life, they want
you to not talk at them, but stand beside them.
And part of that is just listening, which I'm sure
many of your friends and family would say that is
like your natural trait, am I right, Oh yeah, yep,

(03:17):
good listener. It just got that sense from.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
You, right.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
But with being a good listener means that you can
rattle off not telling them what to do, not telling
what they should do, but guiding them to examples of
what others have done. And that's why embracing and absorbing
as many true stories of what people have overcome, how

(03:43):
they've been resilient, how they navigate life without limbs, how
they go through life in a wheelchair, How when they
get bad news, how did they take it, what did
they do with it? And then your storytelling them really
and the stories that you tell will inspire them to

(04:06):
seek stories of their own. So whatever they may be
going through, you know, we live in a day now
where you can go to YouTube. And for example, I'm blind,
I'm legally blind. And if I hadn't been in my
own skin and had been this way in my forties
now diagnosed at sixteen, so several decades of living with this,

(04:28):
But if it was new to me and the Internet
wasn't around when I first was diagnosed. But if I
was just diagnosed and I came to you as a
counselor you know, the great thing is you could tell
me some stories of other amazing visually impaired blind people
and that would inspire me to go to say, wow,
well maybe this won't be as scary as as I think.

(04:51):
And then the great thing is we can go to
the internet. We can go to YouTube. We can find
what people are doing who have visual impairments or are blind,
that are living life without missing a beat, and it's
because you've done your own research into many different various
life paths that you'll be able to give them that guidance.

(05:15):
Do you see that?

Speaker 5 (05:16):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (05:16):
Yeah, absolutely, because I think anybody who goes through a
disability or heartbreak or abuse, most people don't want to
stay in the world a victim. They don't want to
be the patient, but they just need someone to see them,
not as that, someone to see their potential and without

(05:39):
being raw raw raschis brumbah, you want to say to them,
you know you, just like I said, I can tell
that you're a good listener. You want to start to
tell them one or two things that you see in
them that's inspiring and then turn the table and say,
I started the list, help me finish it. What's a
number three thing that you really admire about yourself? Okay,

(06:04):
what's the number four trait that you feel you're really
good at And get them kind of rambling about how
great they are, and pretty soon they're going to get
out of this place of yuck, stuck, sad burden and
they're going to start to see that whatever it is

(06:25):
that they're going through, it doesn't define them just a
moment in time. Right, what do you what? Because I
can tell that you're that good listener, But what do
you struggle with the most. Do you struggle with sometimes
hearing the stories and going home and not be able
to shake them off, or you know, like carrying it

(06:47):
into your personal life, or do you struggle with feeling
like you need the half of answers?

Speaker 7 (06:53):
You know, it's it's probably that that letter, you know,
feeling like I need to have the answers because I
think most of us, you know, we we listen to
you know, our friends or family, and we we just want.

Speaker 5 (07:06):
To throw out a solution for them right away, right.
And you know, one one thing that I've I've learned
from you know, the school counseling program is people will
change for you know, the right person at the right time,
right and so you know you can you can you know,
typically lead lead a camel to water, as they say,
but you you you can't always make it drink right.
So I think your your examples of you know, showing

(07:29):
people other similar stories that they you know, that they
can relate to, and then turning the tables and and
showing them you know they're there are all these qualities
about yourself that you're you know, you're you have every
right to feel, you know, grateful for I think really
really kind of helps frame what we can do. You know,

(07:51):
in those situations where you you you so want to
provide them with an answer, but it's it's not always
not I was going to be there, you know well.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
And depending on your workload, depending on your time ability,
you might do it with them. You might say, Okay, listen,
given what you're going through, I'm going to find one person,
real life example that I think is inspiring. And you
find one, and then let's talk about it next time
we're together. Okay, Now we've found a couple people with
inspirational stories going through just what you're going through. Now

(08:25):
let's each take a homework assignment. I'm going to find
a local or fairly close to us nonprofit that assists
people going through what you're going through. And you find
one too, and then you come back together and now
all of a sudden, there's resources. Okay. Now, as if
you're worried about the career choice you're going after, and

(08:45):
given what you're going through, I'm going to find one
person in your chosen career field that has a path
like yours, and you go on LinkedIn, you find one
person with a similar situation to you that has the
career that you want, and let's exchange notes. And then
maybe they reach out to that person, they take them
to coffee, maybe they just do a phone call. But see,

(09:07):
all of a sudden, their world gets bigger and bigger
and bigger. Do you see that?

Speaker 8 (09:11):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (09:14):
And so I think if you do that, you're going
to do so great. And again, you're a good listener,
I can already tell. But thank you again for the
work that you do, because I believe we live in
a twisty world. Ever since the Internet came about, right,
it's been kind of twisty. But I believe also the
Internet can be a great resource for inspiration and I

(09:36):
think if you guide them that way, then really the
sky's the limit. Because I'll tell you what we have
been doing the Living Full Out Show since twenty ten
years and years and years, show after show after show,
inspirational stories right and left, and so they're out there.
You just got to find the ones that relate most
to your student, your client. But thank you so much

(10:00):
for calling in, and we wish you all the best,
and let us know how it goes well.

Speaker 8 (10:04):
Thank you so much, Nancy.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
Yeah, it's been very, very inspiring.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
Oh you're welcome. And I love that he asked that
question because today we are talking about helping others, supporting others,
being there, being of service. And although he's a counselor,
I'm a coach, right, we all can be that for someone.
I want you to think about one person today, your family,
your friend who may not even know that they need

(10:30):
someone to listen, and you can be that sounding board
for them. It just takes you making that call and
truly giving that gift away. So stay with us. We're
going to be coming right back with Dave Crete again,
a story that is so amazing. I just can't wait
to share it. Stay with us, we'll be back.

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(11:24):
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(11:45):
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Speaker 10 (12:00):
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Speaker 9 (13:00):
Hehu, oh brah, that's buzzed. Oh yeah, yeah, he's starting
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Speaker 2 (13:05):
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Speaker 7 (13:07):
I just want to say that friendship is about heart,
heart and brain.

Speaker 12 (13:12):
Who's with me?

Speaker 10 (13:13):
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brain is saying when it's time to go home.

Speaker 13 (13:18):
Somebody call me a ride.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
Love that guy, me too.

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(14:27):
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Speaker 1 (15:00):
You're listening to Living Full Out with Nancy Soilary As
a life coach. Nancy can teach you how to stay
strong under pressure and work through challenges you face. Being
legally blind, Nancy inspires others to be resilient and overcoming
obstacles and live full out. You can ask Nancy for
advice in your life on relationships, finance, business, health, and more.

(15:22):
Just call in at eight hundred three three three zero
zero zero one. Once again, that's eight hundred three three
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Speaker 2 (15:33):
Thank you so much for joining us today. I'm Nancy
Silari and this is the Living Full Out Show, and
today we're talking about serving others and we always look
for inspirational guests that we feel have really done that
mission well. And our inspirational guest today, Dave Creed, is
not just inspiring, but where he is today and how

(15:54):
he looks back at his life and has so much
gratitude in his heart for what he's gone through. I
truly salute him. So I'd like to welcome Dave to
the show.

Speaker 8 (16:04):
Good morning, Thank you, thank you for having me.

Speaker 2 (16:06):
Happy to have you, and truly I think about little Dave,
eleven year old, getting your first job at the ice
cream shop, and and then I think about as a
little boy, you know, helping your mom who was constantly sick,
I mean ill, worst case scenario avenues of health and

(16:28):
having to help, you know, be there for her, and
then even just the focus that you had when you
graduated from high school going into the Air Force. And
I'm a production, you know, person at heart, and so
someone like yourself who has that discipline, that focus, like
I just really appreciate that. And as we deep go

(16:50):
into your story a little deeper here, I want to
say in advance, thank you for your service. And I
know others will as well when they when we talk
about your story. I know that as you went along
into the Air Force here just eighteen years old, you
wanted to fly, right, you wanted to travel. You also

(17:10):
became an Air Force cop and there was an assignment
that was offered to others and you said no to it.
It was this special assignment. But even though you said no,
they said, well, we're going to give it to you anyway.
What was that assignment?

Speaker 8 (17:30):
So the assignment, you put it correctly, I was kind
of volun told that's what I was going to do,
and it was to be stationed on an area that's
called the Nevada Test and Training Range, made famous through
folklore with aliens and all kinds of different things, but
it's the place where the Air Force test develops its

(17:54):
next generation weapons.

Speaker 2 (17:58):
It sounds frightening and complicated. And to further complicate that,
working there, you couldn't tell anybody, even your sweet wife Eileen.
You would go away for days. You couldn't tell her
what you were doing. You couldn't tell her where you
were going or any of that. And I know that

(18:20):
finally after years of you were in the service for
six years, but finally the day come came in nineteen
eighty eight when you could finally share with people what
you were doing and what was that.

Speaker 8 (18:35):
So on in late the fall in nineteen eighty eight,
President Reagan came out and announced the existence of the
F one to seventeen, a stealth fighter, and that was
a big part of our mission up on the range
was to make that an operational aircraft. And it was

(18:58):
something that nobody knew about. Nobody, literally nobody knew about.
My wife had no idea about that until the day
it came out and was going to be on the news.
And I couldn't wait for her to get home so
I could show her what a moment.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
Right, all these times you couldn't say anything and finally
you're like, this is it.

Speaker 8 (19:21):
Yeah, that's exactly what it was. Like too. It was
like show and tell at school when you're a little kid.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
What a moment. Now amongst all that, around twenty three,
you retired out of the service at you know, six
years in at twenty four. But around twenty three, before
your time was done, you started to not feel so well.
What were some of the symptoms you were having.

Speaker 8 (19:46):
I started getting pneumonia in bronchitis frequently, and I was,
as I would tell the docs, it felt like an
elephant was sitting on my chest and I was having
problems breathing. And that happened over the next year and
a half. I was probably at the hospital three or
four times with pneumonia type symptoms.

Speaker 2 (20:08):
And over time you started to even find these little
marble bumps up here in your body, but one really
concerned you on your back. Why was that?

Speaker 8 (20:20):
So? I have these little things, and you're exactly right,
They're like little marbles under your skin. And one of
those little marbles just kept growing and growing until it
looked like I had like a hard boiled egg under
my skin, and it became very uncomfortable. You'd sit back
in a chair and it was uncomfortable, and to the

(20:40):
point I finally went to a doctor and referred me
to a surgeon, and the surgeon said, you have a
tumor and we need to take it out. We'll have
it tested, but you need to get this removed. And
so that's what I did, and I got it removed.
And after the surgery, you know, the doctors come in
and talk to you, and the doctors said, we removed it.

(21:01):
It had grown in between your shoulder blade and rib
cage and it was the size of a grapefruit.

Speaker 2 (21:06):
Wow, what was it cancerous?

Speaker 8 (21:09):
No, it wasn't. It was it's called the lightpolma. It
was a non cancerous tumor. But it was just it
had gotten very big. And that's why all the discomfort,
because it was causing pressure in between my shoulder blade
and my ribs and so when i'd sit back, it would,
you'd press on it, and that's why I went to
him and had it removed.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Well, and you you kind of dealt with all this
thinking this is odd. I'm the only one. And in
time you ended up getting a message on Facebook. Your
nickname back in the service was Kujo. Someone said this
is Kujo and it was you and you. That was
when Facebook just came out and you were finally able

(21:52):
to connect with others that you had worked with because
prior to Facebook you didn't have that ability. And eventually
you all had a reunion, right.

Speaker 8 (22:05):
We did, and it was it was pretty amazing because
you never spoke to these people after you left up Rains.
That's what we refer to it as being up brains
when you're out. When we were up at work, and
it was incredible. And then we get together for the
first time, and that's when we started having the conversation,

(22:28):
literally just talking in my backyard about about different things
than one of the guys brought up tumors, and so
I instantly fired back when he said, does anybody have
a tumor? And I said, yes, I have one. In fact,
I have a bunch. And that's where the conversation got
started that we started to figure out maybe something wasn't right.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
You know, in that moment, it's kind of terrifying because
now you're starting to hear things that sound familiar to you,
and now you're seeing that others have it. And I
know that little boy was always a researcher, a detective,
and your story then starts to go into heavy research

(23:12):
mode and I want everyone to stay with us, because
truly his Dave story is unique as to where he worked.
But I think we do have to be aware of
our surroundings, aware of what's around us, what are we eating,
what are we absorbing in the air through different methods,

(23:33):
And I think that your story, Dave, really has opened
my eyes. So everybody will be coming right back after
this break more with Dave Crete. We'll be back.

Speaker 17 (24:03):
Today.

Speaker 18 (24:04):
In school, I learned a lot. In chemistry, I learned
that no one likes me. In English, I learned that
I'm disgusting, and in Physics I learned that I'm a loser.

Speaker 14 (24:16):
Today in school, I learned that I'm ugly and useless.
In jim, I learned that I'm pathetic in a joke.
In History today, I learned that I'm trying.

Speaker 13 (24:26):
Today in school, I learned that I have no friends.
In English, I learned that I make people sick, and
at lunch I learned that I sit on my own
because I smell. In chemistry, I learned.

Speaker 14 (24:38):
That no one In Biology, I learned that I'm fat
and stupid, And in math I learned that I'm trash.

Speaker 18 (24:46):
The only thing I didn't learn in school today the
only thing I didn't learn today.

Speaker 10 (24:49):
The only thing I didn't learn is why no one.

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Speaker 1 (28:04):
You're listening to Living Full Out with Nancy Solary. With
Nancy's expertise, you'll learn how to embrace your potential and
strive for success. If you have a question or need
further support, send us an email at connect at livingfullout
dot com. Now here's Nancy.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Welcome back. I'm Nancysilari and this is the Living Full
Out Show, and today we're talking about serving others and
our inspirational guest today is Dave Cree and we've been
kind of journeying through his story. But this is the
most important part that I feel where we can all learn.
We can all our eyes get bigger, and we can
let our hearts get bigger. So Dave, welcome back to

(28:45):
the show.

Speaker 8 (28:46):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Now I want to take our audience back here. You
are in your backyard. You're at this reunion with all
your buddies front that you had worked with, and you're
starting to have this conversation about tumors and those same
ones that you had been experiencing. Others had two. But
interestingly enough, it wasn't just you all that worked there.

(29:10):
It was affecting your kids and your wives. How was that?

Speaker 8 (29:15):
That was when the for lack of better words, I
think that's when the epiphany happened, because it was one
thing when the buddy mine Randy, asked the question about
the tumors, and so I spoke up, and at that moment,
there was eight people in my backyard, including myself, and

(29:37):
six of us we found out had tumors. And then
one of the guys, Raphael, spoke up and he said,
I wasn't I don't have any, but my son who
was born back then, he was born with tumors. And
that was that moment that the that really the light
went on because Eileen and I's first son, David, was

(30:01):
born with something called neurofibromatosis, which is a tumor related
genetic birth defect, and we never understood why he had
that because we had been through geneticist and been through
testing and there was no genetic history. So he had
been called a spontaneous mutation by the doctors when he

(30:22):
was little, which was kind of an overwhelming term, and
there wasn't a lot known about what he had. And
at that moment when Raphael said that he had a
son born with a tumor, then there was there was
the reality that that moment when you realize that maybe

(30:46):
my job had something to do with it.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Well in there that's a I mean, that's a really
scary moment because now it's not just affecting you, it's
affecting your kids. And again, Eileen had what three men carriages,
And when you started to discover this, and again you
started to do one of your best skills, which is researching,

(31:10):
and you researched and you researched, and six years later
you found a public document on government letterhead that gave
you two very interesting paragraphs. What did they say?

Speaker 8 (31:25):
So the document was something it was that the government
had done was in nineteen seventy five, they'd done an
environmental assessment out on the range in the area where
we worked, and they said in that document that it
was contaminated with plutonium, and specifically it was plutonium two

(31:46):
thirty nine, which is a plutonium that it just doesn't
go away. You know, scientifically, it has a half life
of over twenty four thousand years, so it's it's going
to be around and forever, basically, and they admitted that
they knew that, and then it was an evaluation where

(32:07):
they said, you know, we have three options. Basically. The
first option is probably nobody should be out here. The
second option was, if we allow people to go out there,
we should limit their access so we can limit their exposure.
And then the other option was to just do what
they do, and that is just operate the range and

(32:31):
send people out there as if there wasn't any issue.
And that's what they did. They they decided and put
in writing that did benefit to national security outweighed the
future environmental liabilities. And I've said and everybody that works

(32:55):
out there kind of knows this is a very very
desolate places. Beyond being in the middle of nowhere, there's
basically sage brush. There's some wild horses out there, and
there's the folks that are stationed out there and work
out there. And if they were worried about the future
environmental liabilities, it was either tumbleweeds, people or the horses.

(33:19):
And so you know, the assumption is that the liability
they understood was going to be the people. But they
went ahead and did it.

Speaker 2 (33:28):
And they're still out there today, right, Dave, I mean
there's still people working in that same zone.

Speaker 8 (33:35):
Correct, There's still people out there working who really are
going to have the same fate as my generation of
people that were out there.

Speaker 6 (33:44):
Now.

Speaker 2 (33:44):
I am curious when you read those words and you
shared it with another person so they could read the
same words, just to make sure you weren't seeing things
that weren't real. Where do you put, Dave, anger? Where
do you put guilt? Because again, this was an assignment

(34:05):
that you didn't want. It was just kind of forced
on you and you did it. But at the same
time it caused you some health issues obviously, and it
washed over to your kids. And Iileen, and I just
I just don't know where you go and how do
you how do you unpack that?

Speaker 8 (34:28):
The real answer is I don't know. I just I
started researching more and more, and it became more and
more of an obsession, if you will, and you just
you're you're reading this and then you For me, it
was I wanted to know more, so what all could
this be? Why? With them knowing this?

Speaker 5 (34:50):
What all?

Speaker 8 (34:51):
It really turned you not what was out there that
that that might have caused, you know, tumors in us?
It was it turned into what can this do to anybody?
How does this affect other people? How can I connect?
You know, when my buddy Rafael said that his son
was born with tumors, and my son is born with
a tumor problem n F nor five mintosis, how is

(35:16):
there a connection of those dots? And you know, how
does this happen? Because there's still you know, I've read this,
we know that it's a problem, but you don't know
the what's mechanics that makes all this stuff happen? I guess,
And so that's what it became. And then the more

(35:37):
you researched, the worse the answers got.

Speaker 2 (35:41):
More and more, more and more terrifying. Now you researched
and more answers were given. But we're talking today, Dave,
about serving others. And granted you were learning a lot,
and why out of all these decades you were the
one that uncovered all this, we'll never know. But now

(36:02):
you had all this knowledge and you decided to serve
others by creating your nonprofit. And I just want you
to share with us the name of that, but also
how that nonprofit is helping those who may have this exposure.

Speaker 8 (36:22):
So the nonprofit is called the Invisible Enemy, and its
purpose is to become an advocate because I had I
had gained all this knowledge, and the other thing was
is I had experience in politics. I knew how that

(36:45):
world worked. And so the nonprofit is to or what
was to become and it has an advocacy group to
help out all the people I served with. Because the
extra ordinary challenge that we have as a group of
veterans and folks that work for the Department of Defense

(37:07):
is that we didn't exist out there, and we had
to find a path to not violate our NDA, our
non disclosure agreement with the government, not violate our security clearances,
but at the same time ask for help, because the

(37:28):
government is very happy to deny our existence and deny
our exposure and deny that that exposure working at those
at that location caused the problem. And so we being

(37:48):
I got some of my buddies and some other people
that I thought could be helpful. I formed a board.
We became a five oh one c. Three, and I
started the process of trying to tell the world about
a group of people that supposedly work, you know, that
we did work somewhere that supposedly isn't there, doing jobs

(38:11):
that that didn't exist, and and trying to bring to
light these these folks that frankly, the government would really
rather see die off than to deal with. And that's
not okay.

Speaker 2 (38:28):
Well that's not okay. And you know, the thing is
is this has led you to this purpose. And one
of the things that I really appreciate about you is
your convictions, your values to serve and you know, you
you look back on your life and you don't want

(38:49):
to relish the wrongs. You don't want to relish in
you know what could have been, because actually you had
a great life. You raised a four kids, actually you
actually had six other kids that you raised as well
aside from your own biological children, and you had Eileen.
You've been married what forty years almost now, but at

(39:09):
the end four.

Speaker 8 (39:10):
Years next year.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
So amazing. But at the end of the day, one
of the things that I want to walk away from
the show, and we just have a few minutes left,
is your path now is clear, Like you know that purpose,
you know the group that you're serving and helping. But
for somebody listening today who is lacking that purpose, doesn't

(39:34):
really have the whole energy to start a nonprofit per se,
what would you tell them?

Speaker 8 (39:41):
Just find something that interests you. I believe and I've
kind of drug my wife through this process where it's
we should all always be in service to others. I
look at it as if you're not, you're kind of
wasting the one opportunity you've been given in life. And
you need to You need to have that purpose because

(40:05):
it does more like it does more for me than
it does for anybody else.

Speaker 2 (40:11):
You know, right there? That is the secret Sauce. I mean,
that's the funny thing is when you give and you serve,
it makes them feel good and makes the person giving
feel good. Dave, I just want to say thank you
again for your service, thank you for sharing your story,
and we're going to keep an eye on you, cheering
you on, cheering your nonprofit on, and for everybody else

(40:35):
listening today. Just like Dave, if you have an inspirational story,
we'd very much like to hear from you. Reach out
to us at connect at livingfullout dot com because we
truly are stronger together and can live inspirational lives together.
Thank you so much. We'll be right back after this break.

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Speaker 2 (45:02):
When it comes to serving others, I always want you
to remember it really benefits everyone when you help someone
and you give that away and you make their life easier.
You bring a smile and safety and comfort to them.
But at the same time, your heart grows bigger because
you know that you are now leading a life of purpose.

(45:24):
That is the secret ingredient to living full out.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
You're listening to Living Full Out with Nancy Solary. As
a professional motivational speaker. Nancy can assist you to blow
through your setbacks and start living full out. If you
have an inspirational story you want to share, email us
at connect at livingfollout dot com. Once again, here's Nancy.

Speaker 2 (45:57):
Thank you so much for joining us today. I'm Nancy
So and this is the Living Full Out Show, and
I kind of want to pull back the curtain here
a little bit for y'all, because today we're talking about
serving others, and that's going to be different for everyone.
You want to figure out what is your special, unique
gift and talents that you have. Maybe you're an amazing cook,

(46:19):
Well see what you can do with that to bring
joy to those that you love. But others, maybe you
work at a nonprofit, or you work in serving food
to homeless or even making that yummy food. Or maybe
you're someone that's really great at tech and you can
pay that forward by helping out others who just don't
have those same skills or even the tech ability. Maybe

(46:41):
they're lacking the software or the equipment. And I think
to myself, you know, back when I was losing my
vision and I was pretty busy. I was back in
the day selling real estate and I loved that, and
I had time in my life where I was a
professional singer and of course I did brug pasting. But
as I started to lose my vision and you know,

(47:04):
gave up driving and not being able to read things
and needed to acquire all this special software and talking
devices and things to live my life without seeing I
really had to hone in on what is my special,
unique gift and talent, just like I'm telling you all
to look into. And for me, I realized that was listening.

(47:25):
But I also realized that if I wanted to serve
people best, that was building a show like this. So
we do this show to motivate, yes, but we also
do this show to tell stories. And when I find someone,
my team and I and we look for all different
stories of addiction and abuse and homelessness and different health

(47:49):
conditions and disabilities, and we get your emails, we get
your direct messages. We know what you all are going through,
so we look for guests that we know are in
the lane of inspiration that you need most. But once
I do connect with a guest, behind the scenes, I
do what's called a prep call, And in that prep call,

(48:12):
that is where my serving starts. Because I don't care
if I'm on the phone with that potential guest for
half an hour or two hours. That's right. I've actually
had a two hour prep call, and it's an opportunity
for me just to sit back and learn all about them.
I want to go all the way back to how
they grew up. Who were they as a little kiddo, introverted, extroverted,

(48:34):
you know what's their most proudest moment? You know what
do they fear the most? And then we journey through
their life all the way to where they are today,
and through those prep calls, we find parallels to their
story times that they've survived not just once, but twice,
times where they've had to be productive or be proactive

(48:56):
or be a troubleshooter not just once but twice or
maybe more. And it's interesting because at the end of
those calls, I hear it all the time. They're like,
oh my gosh, Nancy, I feel like I could talk
to you for hours, and wow, this has been a
therapy session. And I'm like, no problem, because that is
my way of serving. My way of serving is to

(49:18):
listen and take great notes and then if I'm given
that opportunity to bring them to you as a guest,
well look at that now that guests and I are
helping to serve you give you that inspiration. And so
it's important that we don't just let the days on
the calendar flip by, don't just let getting out of

(49:41):
bed be that one moment in time and before you
know it, you're jumping back in. Really sees every day,
every minute of that day, and make it almost a
game for yourself of how how can I serve as
many people today as I can? And we've heard it
all before. Sure, it's the open of a door, it's
helping someone carry their groceries, it's maybe buying that person

(50:05):
in line a coffee who looks like they're having a
hard day. But it can also be looking for those
opportunities to volunteer. You know, we're in the nonprofit space here,
even beyond living full out, because one of our TV
shows is called Nonprofit MVP, and we are all about
showcasing different nonprofits and the good work that they do

(50:29):
and helping to give them fundraising tips and social media
digital media tips and helping them to hone their why
and their mission statements. And why do I share that
show with you other than I want you to watch
it obviously and get inspired. But I share that with
you because I created that show. Yes, I host that show,

(50:49):
and I interview the executive directors and the founders and
all the people that work in the nonprofits. And share
those interviews with you in the shows. But at the
same time time again, that's being of service. That's me
taking my gift and duplicating it. Here for the Living
Full Out show, there for nonprofit MVP and of course

(51:10):
personal coaching clients along the way. So you want to
look at Okay, Nancy, I'll take this on. Okay, I've
honed in on what my unique gift and talent is. Okay,
I see one way in which I can volunteer and
give back. But I want you to look deeper and
more because I want to make sure that when you
get to the end of your life that you are

(51:32):
able to say that you lived it full out. And
that starts with just paying it forward, living a beautiful
life of purpose. I know you can do it. The
entire Living full Out family wants to thank you for
listening today. We've got Dirk and Brent in the studio
and Julie standing by. But remember, if you need some
more support, go to Livingfullout dot com. We actually have

(51:55):
a course right there for you is the Personal Development
boot Camp, and it's actually going to target many different
aspects of your life. Or maybe you just need that
little extra insight or you're looking to find ways in
which you can serve. Also go to the app store.
You can find the Living full Out Show app there.
Because I understand sometimes when you're at the gym and

(52:17):
you've heard all the same songs, listen to some inspirational stories.
They will get you going. As always, here's to you,
Living full Out.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Thank you for listening to The Living Full Out Show
with Nancy Silari. To learn more about this program, visit
livingfullout dot com for the latest episodes. Connect with the
Living full Out community by following us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram,
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