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A missing mom, strange texts, and a trash can buried
in a backyard. What really happened to Madonna Williams? What
police uncovered in a Jacksonville rental home was darker than
anyone could have imagined. Welcome to Love and Murder, Heartbreak
to Homicide. You're Florida Man, Friday Edition. Hi, my name
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Let's get into your Florida man Friday. On April twentieth,
twenty twenty two, the quiet neighborhood of Allandale and Jacksonville, Florida,
became the center of a gruesome discovery. A rental property
owner was getting his house ready for new tenants when
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he found a trash can that had been partially buried
in the backyard. Inside the trash can, he found human remains.
He immediately called the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office, and within hours
homicide detectives had arrived on the scene. The remains belonged
to Lodonna Williams, a forty one year old mother of
three and grandmother of three. She had last been seen
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in February twenty twenty two, and her family had been
desperately searching for her. Her daughter, Tammy william said, quote,
when I found out it was my mom, I instantly,
I just I was shocked. She was a very good mother.
She was a good mother to all my friends, my siblings,
as well. In February, Ladonna's son had filed the missing
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persons report after she failed to answer his birthday messages
for her forty first birthday. When he finally received a
text from her number, it just didn't feel right. The
messages didn't sound like his mother. They were all requesting money,
like smooth way did James bond the crap out of this?
Whoever is doing this text? And like you were just like, hey,
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send me money? What was I guess? I was gonna say,
what was the thought process behind this? But if you're
going to commit murder, then yeah, your thought process is
completely off anyways. And then when her son started asking
the sender personal questions that only his mother would know,
they couldn't answer because her son wasn't an idiot applause
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to him quote, I was stressed out all the time.
I would think about her constantly. I would look for her.
I would try to ask for help. As it turned out,
by the time those texts were sent, LaDonna had already
been dead for weeks. Investigators quickly turned their attention to
Nathaniel Slade, a forty three year old Florida man with
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a violent past. Nathaniel was not just any suspect. He
was Lodonna's former supervisor at a home repair company, and
he'd been living in her rental home where her remains
were found, but the real motive behind the murder wasn't
even work related. According to police, Nathaniel killed LaDonna because
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she was trying to help his girlfriend escape from her
abusive relationship with him. Nathaniel was controlling and violent towards
his girlfriend, and LaDonna had been offering her a way out.
When he learned about this, he snapped. Nathaniel's girlfriend told
investigator that he stabbed at LaDonna in the chest in
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February twenty and after that he forced her to help
clean up the crime scene and dispose of La Donna's
body in a trash can outside their window. Quote. I
had to do what I had to do. She was
disrespected me, this is what he'd told her, According to
Assistant State Attorney Brooke Milo, he quote buried her in
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the trash can and then slept with her body outside
of his bedroom window for some period of weeks before
he left the house. And by left the house, I
mean move out. So he just left the trash can
there with her body in it for some weeks and
then he moved out, so by the time the property
owner found her remains, her body was decomposing in the
Florida heat. I forgot about the Florida heat. Oh my god.
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And it's just in a trash can. How bad did
that smell? And I'm not saying that to disrespect the body,
but it's just if you've ever been to Florida, the heat,
the heat and decomposition. Oh, I can't even imagine. In
September twenty twenty four, I refound Nathaniel guilty of second
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degree murder. By this time, though Nathaniel was already serving
a life sentence for an unrelated case involving attempted first
degree murder, armed burglary, and possession of a firearm by
a convicted felon. So basically just a repeat offender. Now
I do have a question, do you think people like
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him could be rehabilitated? Now this isn't a sarcastic question.
I'm really curious if it could or has happened. Let
me know in the comments below. He pled guilty to
those charges and was sentenced for Ladonna's murder. Nathaniel received
another life sentence, ensuring basically that he'll never walk free again.
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At his sentence in Ladonna's family stood in court to
make sure the judge and jury knew exactly who she was.
Her other daughter, Ladajah Williams, said, quote, my mom was
many things. She wasn't perfect, you know, but she was
our mom. Another family member added quote, she had a
lot of life, left kids to finish raisin and grandkids
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to help raise. LaDonna Williams wasn't just a name in
a courtroom or a victim in a crime report. She
was a mother, a grandmother, a daughter, a friend. Her
loved ones described her as strong, independent, and full of love.
And as usual with these cases, not only do I
try to get the person's story out there, but my
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podcast is also about teaching and alerting. Lodonna's murder serves
as a painful reminder of the dangers of domestic violence
and the risks taken by those who try to help.
Not that we're saying not to help, but always be
vigilant and careful. Her son, who spent weeks searching for her,
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now hopes that his mother's story will not be forgotten.
And if you or someone you know is an abusive relationship,
please reach out for help. I know in my other
cases people who have been domestic violence situations and have
gotten out of it have said, don't say just leave.
It's not that easy, but do reach out for help,
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speak with someone, and there are resources available and you
don't have to go through it a loane. Call the
National Domestic Violence Hotline at one eight hundred seven nine
nine seven two three three, that's one eight hundred seven
nine to nine safe, or you can text start start
to eight eight seven eight eight. What are your thoughts
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on this case? I want to hear from you. Have
you ever tried to help somebody who has been in
a domestic violent situation? Or have you ever been in
a domestic violent situation and has reached out for help?
And how did that work out for you? Please let
me know your thoughts or your stories in the comments
below and he'll be read off in a future episode.
So you've already heard my comments, and I want to
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hear your comments. And speaking of your comments, let's go
through a couple of comments from a past Friday episode.
So this one comes from an episode titled delivery driver
stabs pregnant woman fourteen times over a two dollars tip
yet that one was frickin' crazy, and user named Butcher
Pete said, Oh my god, if you're broke and need tips, maybe,
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just maybe other people are too broke to tip big
just saying I mean, at least they tipped, right, Butcher
Pete like, at least they tipped, you could have gotten nothing.
But you do know tips are optional, like we don't
have to tips. I know in this country, people is
shamed for not tipping. But tips are optional. That's why
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you should have a paycheck. That's why servers should be
getting a regular paycheck. We shouldn't be paying their check.
We're already paying for the meal. Tips should be optional.
And as usual, whenever I read off a comment and
I mentioned in an episode, because you might not have
heard that episode or you might not have remembered that episode,
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I always post the link to that episode in the
show notes below, so you can always click on that
episode to hear the craziness of that case. And we'll
do one more comment. This one came from the case
titled former DCF worker arrested for child abuse and murder
of adopted dorter. This was the case of Diane Natasha
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Mack and Amy said emancipation means free of legal guardian,
et cetera. Do you mean emaciated body was by the door? Yes, Amy,
and I did answer this what I was cracking out
because look, I'm not perfect. I do maybe I just
my brain was working too fast. I do know the
difference between emancipation and emaciated. Thank you so much for
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the correction. I was cracking up when I read your
comments because I was like, I can't believe I did that.
So listen, I record. Then I listened to the episode
while I'm editing. Then I re listened to the episode
just in case I'm miss something and I still miss this.
Can you believe that I still miss this? But yes,
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I didn't mean emaciated. Thank you so much for the
shout out. Thank you Amy for listening. And if you
didn't hear that case as usual, the link to that
case is in the show notes below, so you could
hear me mess up and say emancipated. And that is
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