August 25, 2025 • 15 mins
A mother rushed to the hospital, bleeding and in denial. Doctors knew she had given birth, but she swore she hadn’t. Days later, investigators went to her home… and found something hidden that changed the entire course of the case.
This week I tell you the story of Monique Burton — a case of secrets, lies, and a discovery no one was prepared for.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now part of the dark Cast Network. Welcome to indie
podcasts with a Dark Side. On the morning of August twentieth,
twenty twenty two, thirty five year old Monique ellen Burton
was rushed to the hospital in Geraldton, about four hundred
kilometers north of Perth, Australia. She was bleeding heavily, showing
(00:20):
clear signs that she had recently given birth, but when
medical staff questioned her, Monique repeatedly denied that she had
delivered her baby. Her condition was serious enough that she
was transferred to King Edward Memorial Hospital in Perth for
further treatment. What hospital staff didn't know was that back
at her home, hidden behind a couch was a black
(00:44):
garbage bag with something in it that no one could
have ever imagined. Welcome Lambs. Welcome to Love and Murder,
Heartbreak to Homicide, your weekly true crime podcast telling you
cases of relationships that turned to homicide. And we do
it with the victim and their families and their friends
and their loved ones all in mind. So you may
(01:04):
hear some Ranton and raven come in from me. Don't
forget that this is my last week of being off,
so you're getting still many episodes this week, and I
might tell you about my time when I get back
next week. If you didn't know, I'm sitting here telling
you that I'm off and everything like that. But my
name is Kai. Thank you for joining me. Take a seat,
take a listen all the way to the end, and
if you do like what you hear, don't forget to subscribe. Also,
(01:26):
you can subscribe on our Patreon for free patreon dot com,
Forward Slash, Love and Murder, where you do get some
benefits of being a free subscriber. Actually, I have two
videos over there for my free subscribers, but it's not
set to public, so you wouldn't see it if you
were not a subscriber. So that's kind of the little
benefits that you get for being a free subscriber. But
if you want to be a voice of the victim,
(01:48):
help out this podcast. The podcast is one hundred percent
listener funded, and you'll hear more about that at the
end of this show. If you want bonus episodes, if
you want case extras, so videos of the case pictures,
and we'll talk more about that at the end of
the episode. And if you want, like I said, to
be a voice of the victim, then choose one of
our bonus taires Patreon dot com Ford slash Love and Murder. Now,
before this intro is longer than the case itself, let's
(02:11):
get back to this case of love and murder. Monique
was a mother of five who had been in a
fourteen year relationship with a man named Sean Bradley Ballam.
She had previously concealed pregnancies throughout her relationship, and just
two years earlier, she had lost a fifteen month old
child to medical complications, something that she was kind of
still grieving. Days after the August twentieth incident, while still
(02:35):
in the hospital, Monique finally confessed to a social worker
about what had happened. She said that this pregnancy was
her sixth pregnancy, but that Sean was not the father.
She wanted to keep the pregnancy from him, so she
repeatedly lied about it. Then, when Sewn questioned her about
her growing stomach, she gave him a false pregnancy test,
(02:58):
which showed that she wasn't pregnant. Instead, to explain her symptoms,
she told him that she had a liver condition. Then,
on the night of August nineteenth, while Sean was asleep,
Monique secretly gave birth in the living room of their home.
I don't know how she did that, but I guess
this was her sixth because there's no way I could
(03:19):
have kept that labor secret. There's no way. It hurt
too much. After the delivery, she wrapped a baby in
some clothing, reportedly her leggings, and then placed him inside
a black garbage bag, which she then hid behind the couch.
On August twenty fifth, twenty twenty two, police went out
to Monique's home and looked for the black plastic bag
(03:41):
behind the couch, but it wasn't there. They started searching
the house and found the baby's body in the freezer.
Police then asked Sean what happened, and he told them
his side of the story. He said that on the
morning of August twentieth, he noticed that Monique was weak
and bleeding, so he took her to the hospital. While
she stayed at the hospital, he came back later that
(04:03):
day looking for a lost phone. That's when he stumbled
across the hidden bag. Inside he felt a hard, heavy
lump and feared that it might be the head of
a baby, especially given Monique's history of concealing pregnancies. Panicked,
He didn't call the police or even open it. Instead,
(04:25):
he wrapped the bag in another black garbage bag and
put it inside the freezer on the back porch, thinking
that that's what would have been done in a morgue. Now,
am I the only one who thinks this story is
a kracolive? What would you do if you took your
sister or your partner, you know, whoever that you loved
to the hospital from bleeding, and then you came back
(04:47):
home to find a garbage bag with what you think
is a newborn baby inside. Are you gonna dump it
into freezer? Or are you gonna first open the bag
wide to check and see if the baby is still
even a lot? Then after you determine its state, wouldn't
you call nine to one one? So this is why
I think this explanation is complete trash. Let me know
(05:09):
your thoughts in the comments below. Toxicology tests revealed that
there was methanphetamine in the infants system. When interviewed again
in January twenty twenty four, Monique told police that her
memory was quote fuzzy and that she had quote blocked
it out or disassociated from the events. Seriously, that's what
(05:30):
you say, you know, little Rantaire, I'm really annoyed how
in recent years, everyone supposedly knows how to diagnose everything themselves,
or they use the most psychological terminology to explain almost anything,
but they haven't even taken like one psychology class. Do
(05:50):
you know what I'm saying. Monique was later charged and
pleaded guilty to interfere in with the corpse with intent
to prevent an investigation. She also faced fraud charges after
gofund me set up by a friend who the friend
thought that Monique was terminally ill, and the GoFundMe had
raised more than three thousand dollars. Monique again didn't create
(06:10):
the fundraiser, but admitted that she was aware of it,
but at the same time, she didn't even stop it,
and on top of all of that, she accepted the money.
During her trial, state prosecutor Jenna Winter called Monique's actions
quote morally repugnant, pointing out the indignity to the baby
and the layers of lies that frustrated investigator. Her defense attorney,
(06:33):
Anthony Elliott, argued her severe mental health issues played a
central role, pointed to her tendency to disassociate from trauma.
That is not an excuse of why you kept a
baby hidden, a pregnancy hidden, and because you didn't want
the man to know it wasn't his child. You put
it in a plastic bag. So that's not trauma. That's
(06:55):
kind of lying. So she doesn't disassociate from life, does she.
Psychologists had later described her as struggling with adjustment disorder,
unresolved grief, depressive episodes, and anxiety. A critical issue in
the case was that the baby's cause of death could
not be determined due to the time the body spent
(07:16):
in the freezer. Monique claimed that the child was stillborn,
which I mean, she wouldn't really say it was alive,
so I expect that's what she would say. But wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait wait. I thought her memory of that time was
fuzzy or she blocked it out, So how does she
know definitively that the baby was still born. Hm. Anyway,
(07:38):
she said the baby was still born because she said
there was no noise and he quote looked like a doll, which,
again my question would be, you said you blocked everything
out and you disassociated from the event, so and your
memory was fuzzy, so you couldn't tell them why there
was meth in the infant system. But you could definitely clearly,
(07:59):
I could see like it was yesterday. Remember that the
baby was still born and that he looked like a doll.
You remember that. Though Judge Darren Renton, who presided over
her case, told Monique, quote you had a stick in
your head in the sand approach to deal with stressors
and would go into a state of avoidance and denial,
he agreed with her defense that her actions were quote
(08:20):
not sophisticated or somewhat naive, motivated by denial of her
pregnancy and her psychological struggles, rather than deliberate malice. Really,
where is the niativity in what part of this does
it show a naive person? The judge, also, despite noting
doubts about her credibility, accepted that it seemed likely the
(08:43):
baby was stillborn, and found no evidence of a violent death.
Why would you take her word for it when she
when asked, okay, let me just content. He added that
had Monique reported the still birth immediately, she would not
have faced criminal charges period pink. Judge written concluded that
Monique was remorseful and had begun to engage with support services.
(09:07):
I don't like where this is going. He warned that
immediate imprisonment would undermine her rehabilitation. Even so, he described
the case as tragic on many levels, leaving a child
remembered only as baby Burton and a family marked by
grief and denial, like I'm shook, shook, I cannot believe
(09:28):
what I just heard. Did everyone miss the part where
the baby had meth in his system? Or is it
just me? Am I going crazy here? Did they miss
how she said she had the baby and immediately put
in a plastic bag and hid it, that she lied
to the hospital staff. But okay, the last two are circumstantial,
(09:48):
but you know what, it is hard evidence the meth
in the baby system? What happened to that? Let me
know your thoughts in the comments. Is it just me
freaking out here because I feel like maybe I miss
something or I'm going crazy one of the two. On
August first, twenty twenty five, in Perth District Court, Monique
was sentenced to nineteen months in prison, suspended for twelve months.
(10:15):
Judge Written said that it was by the quote bearest
of margins. I want to see this margin. I want
to see this margin. Oh my god, that she avoided jail. Instead,
she will serve as supervision order and must complete programs
addressing her mental health and parenting needs. Sean had already
been sentenced to a twelve months community based order. The dude,
(10:38):
I mean, he didn't help her. But my thing is,
you put a baby's body, a newborn infant body in
a freezer. You didn't call nine one one yourself? How
did they How did they just just get away? I
don't hmmm, I just don't understand how they both got
away with this. I don't get it. Maybe I'm missin something. Please, please, Lambs,
(11:02):
let me know what I'm missing in the comments below,
because I have to be missing something. What did you
think of this case? This is one of the most
baffling outcomes I've heard since I basically started to show.
As you can see, I literally, I literally have no words.
I just I just can't. They just got to slap
(11:22):
on the wrist, and if I have to tell you
one more time, I I okay, I don't know what
else to say. Please help me with my words and
my shock in the comments below. I believe that you
could probably articulate my emotions better than I can. Right now,
Who Anyway, that's all I have for you today. Don't
(11:42):
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Love and Murder. You could subscribe for free and get
a bit of extras, or you could choose one of
our bonus tiers and you'll get commercial free episodes, intro
free episodes to that long intro that I did before.
You don't get any of that, you get bonus episodes.
Depending on the tier that you choose, you get case extras.
(12:04):
So like third Saturday Saturday, I put out the update
of the James Craig case, and part of the extras
that you got with that update is a video of
the trial. So that's kind of like the case extras
that you do get when you sign up to the Patreon.
Plus bonus episodes like the new Deadly Duos series that
we have going out, and your regular monthly bonus episodes
(12:26):
that goes out, So you get all of that by
being a Patreon subscriber. Not to mention, you do become
part of the voice of the Victim. And I do
want to remind you I did say this in previous
episodes that this podcast is funded by listeners like you. Basically,
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(12:50):
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The family's gonna say, what's going on? They missed something,
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(13:10):
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did something horrible and the suspect's family was like, you know,
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Now part of the dark Cast Network. Welcome to indie
podcasts with a Dark Side. On the morning of August twentieth,
twenty twenty two, thirty five year old Monique ellen Burton
was rushed to the hospital in Geraldton, about four hundred
kilometers north of Perth, Australia. She was bleeding heavily, showing
(00:20):
clear signs that she had recently given birth, but when
medical staff questioned her, Monique repeatedly denied that she had
delivered her baby. Her condition was serious enough that she
was transferred to King Edward Memorial Hospital in Perth for
further treatment. What hospital staff didn't know was that back
at her home, hidden behind a couch was a black
(00:44):
garbage bag with something in it that no one could
have ever imagined. Welcome Lambs. Welcome to Love and Murder,
Heartbreak to Homicide, your weekly true crime podcast telling you
cases of relationships that turned to homicide. And we do
it with the victim and their families and their friends
and their loved ones all in mind. So you may
(01:04):
hear some Ranton and raven come in from me. Don't
forget that this is my last week of being off,
so you're getting still many episodes this week, and I
might tell you about my time when I get back
next week. If you didn't know, I'm sitting here telling
you that I'm off and everything like that. But my
name is Kai. Thank you for joining me. Take a seat,
take a listen all the way to the end, and
if you do like what you hear, don't forget to subscribe. Also,
(01:26):
you can subscribe on our Patreon for free patreon dot com,
Forward Slash, Love and Murder, where you do get some
benefits of being a free subscriber. Actually, I have two
videos over there for my free subscribers, but it's not
set to public, so you wouldn't see it if you
were not a subscriber. So that's kind of the little
benefits that you get for being a free subscriber. But
if you want to be a voice of the victim,
(01:48):
help out this podcast. The podcast is one hundred percent
listener funded, and you'll hear more about that at the
end of this show. If you want bonus episodes, if
you want case extras, so videos of the case pictures,
and we'll talk more about that at the end of
the episode. And if you want, like I said, to
be a voice of the victim, then choose one of
our bonus taires Patreon dot com Ford slash Love and Murder. Now,
before this intro is longer than the case itself, let's
(02:11):
get back to this case of love and murder. Monique
was a mother of five who had been in a
fourteen year relationship with a man named Sean Bradley Ballam.
She had previously concealed pregnancies throughout her relationship, and just
two years earlier, she had lost a fifteen month old
child to medical complications, something that she was kind of
still grieving. Days after the August twentieth incident, while still
(02:35):
in the hospital, Monique finally confessed to a social worker
about what had happened. She said that this pregnancy was
her sixth pregnancy, but that Sean was not the father.
She wanted to keep the pregnancy from him, so she
repeatedly lied about it. Then, when Sewn questioned her about
her growing stomach, she gave him a false pregnancy test,
(02:58):
which showed that she wasn't pregnant. Instead, to explain her symptoms,
she told him that she had a liver condition. Then,
on the night of August nineteenth, while Sean was asleep,
Monique secretly gave birth in the living room of their home.
I don't know how she did that, but I guess
this was her sixth because there's no way I could
(03:19):
have kept that labor secret. There's no way. It hurt
too much. After the delivery, she wrapped a baby in
some clothing, reportedly her leggings, and then placed him inside
a black garbage bag, which she then hid behind the couch.
On August twenty fifth, twenty twenty two, police went out
to Monique's home and looked for the black plastic bag
(03:41):
behind the couch, but it wasn't there. They started searching
the house and found the baby's body in the freezer.
Police then asked Sean what happened, and he told them
his side of the story. He said that on the
morning of August twentieth, he noticed that Monique was weak
and bleeding, so he took her to the hospital. While
she stayed at the hospital, he came back later that
(04:03):
day looking for a lost phone. That's when he stumbled
across the hidden bag. Inside he felt a hard, heavy
lump and feared that it might be the head of
a baby, especially given Monique's history of concealing pregnancies. Panicked,
He didn't call the police or even open it. Instead,
(04:25):
he wrapped the bag in another black garbage bag and
put it inside the freezer on the back porch, thinking
that that's what would have been done in a morgue. Now,
am I the only one who thinks this story is
a kracolive? What would you do if you took your
sister or your partner, you know, whoever that you loved
to the hospital from bleeding, and then you came back
(04:47):
home to find a garbage bag with what you think
is a newborn baby inside. Are you gonna dump it
into freezer? Or are you gonna first open the bag
wide to check and see if the baby is still
even a lot? Then after you determine its state, wouldn't
you call nine to one one? So this is why
I think this explanation is complete trash. Let me know
(05:09):
your thoughts in the comments below. Toxicology tests revealed that
there was methanphetamine in the infants system. When interviewed again
in January twenty twenty four, Monique told police that her
memory was quote fuzzy and that she had quote blocked
it out or disassociated from the events. Seriously, that's what
(05:30):
you say, you know, little Rantaire, I'm really annoyed how
in recent years, everyone supposedly knows how to diagnose everything themselves,
or they use the most psychological terminology to explain almost anything,
but they haven't even taken like one psychology class. Do
(05:50):
you know what I'm saying. Monique was later charged and
pleaded guilty to interfere in with the corpse with intent
to prevent an investigation. She also faced fraud charges after
gofund me set up by a friend who the friend
thought that Monique was terminally ill, and the GoFundMe had
raised more than three thousand dollars. Monique again didn't create
(06:10):
the fundraiser, but admitted that she was aware of it,
but at the same time, she didn't even stop it,
and on top of all of that, she accepted the money.
During her trial, state prosecutor Jenna Winter called Monique's actions
quote morally repugnant, pointing out the indignity to the baby
and the layers of lies that frustrated investigator. Her defense attorney,
(06:33):
Anthony Elliott, argued her severe mental health issues played a
central role, pointed to her tendency to disassociate from trauma.
That is not an excuse of why you kept a
baby hidden, a pregnancy hidden, and because you didn't want
the man to know it wasn't his child. You put
it in a plastic bag. So that's not trauma. That's
(06:55):
kind of lying. So she doesn't disassociate from life, does she.
Psychologists had later described her as struggling with adjustment disorder,
unresolved grief, depressive episodes, and anxiety. A critical issue in
the case was that the baby's cause of death could
not be determined due to the time the body spent
(07:16):
in the freezer. Monique claimed that the child was stillborn,
which I mean, she wouldn't really say it was alive,
so I expect that's what she would say. But wait, wait, wait, wait,
wait wait. I thought her memory of that time was
fuzzy or she blocked it out, So how does she
know definitively that the baby was still born. Hm. Anyway,
(07:38):
she said the baby was still born because she said
there was no noise and he quote looked like a doll, which,
again my question would be, you said you blocked everything
out and you disassociated from the event, so and your
memory was fuzzy, so you couldn't tell them why there
was meth in the infant system. But you could definitely clearly,
(07:59):
I could see like it was yesterday. Remember that the
baby was still born and that he looked like a doll.
You remember that. Though Judge Darren Renton, who presided over
her case, told Monique, quote you had a stick in
your head in the sand approach to deal with stressors
and would go into a state of avoidance and denial,
he agreed with her defense that her actions were quote
(08:20):
not sophisticated or somewhat naive, motivated by denial of her
pregnancy and her psychological struggles, rather than deliberate malice. Really,
where is the niativity in what part of this does
it show a naive person? The judge, also, despite noting
doubts about her credibility, accepted that it seemed likely the
(08:43):
baby was stillborn, and found no evidence of a violent death.
Why would you take her word for it when she
when asked, okay, let me just content. He added that
had Monique reported the still birth immediately, she would not
have faced criminal charges period pink. Judge written concluded that
Monique was remorseful and had begun to engage with support services.
(09:07):
I don't like where this is going. He warned that
immediate imprisonment would undermine her rehabilitation. Even so, he described
the case as tragic on many levels, leaving a child
remembered only as baby Burton and a family marked by
grief and denial, like I'm shook, shook, I cannot believe
(09:28):
what I just heard. Did everyone miss the part where
the baby had meth in his system? Or is it
just me? Am I going crazy here? Did they miss
how she said she had the baby and immediately put
in a plastic bag and hid it, that she lied
to the hospital staff. But okay, the last two are circumstantial,
(09:48):
but you know what, it is hard evidence the meth
in the baby system? What happened to that? Let me
know your thoughts in the comments. Is it just me
freaking out here because I feel like maybe I miss
something or I'm going crazy one of the two. On
August first, twenty twenty five, in Perth District Court, Monique
was sentenced to nineteen months in prison, suspended for twelve months.
(10:15):
Judge Written said that it was by the quote bearest
of margins. I want to see this margin. I want
to see this margin. Oh my god, that she avoided jail. Instead,
she will serve as supervision order and must complete programs
addressing her mental health and parenting needs. Sean had already
been sentenced to a twelve months community based order. The dude,
(10:38):
I mean, he didn't help her. But my thing is,
you put a baby's body, a newborn infant body in
a freezer. You didn't call nine one one yourself? How
did they How did they just just get away? I
don't hmmm, I just don't understand how they both got
away with this. I don't get it. Maybe I'm missin something. Please, please, Lambs,
(11:02):
let me know what I'm missing in the comments below,
because I have to be missing something. What did you
think of this case? This is one of the most
baffling outcomes I've heard since I basically started to show.
As you can see, I literally, I literally have no words.
I just I just can't. They just got to slap
(11:22):
on the wrist, and if I have to tell you
one more time, I I okay, I don't know what
else to say. Please help me with my words and
my shock in the comments below. I believe that you
could probably articulate my emotions better than I can. Right now,
Who Anyway, that's all I have for you today. Don't
(11:42):
forget to subscribe to the Patreon Patreon dot com for Slash,
Love and Murder. You could subscribe for free and get
a bit of extras, or you could choose one of
our bonus tiers and you'll get commercial free episodes, intro
free episodes to that long intro that I did before.
You don't get any of that, you get bonus episodes.
Depending on the tier that you choose, you get case extras.
(12:04):
So like third Saturday Saturday, I put out the update
of the James Craig case, and part of the extras
that you got with that update is a video of
the trial. So that's kind of like the case extras
that you do get when you sign up to the Patreon.
Plus bonus episodes like the new Deadly Duos series that
we have going out, and your regular monthly bonus episodes
(12:26):
that goes out, So you get all of that by
being a Patreon subscriber. Not to mention, you do become
part of the voice of the Victim. And I do
want to remind you I did say this in previous
episodes that this podcast is funded by listeners like you. Basically,
if you remember last season, I did have some commercials
in there from sponsors. But with sponsors come different demands.
(12:50):
They don't want certain things to be said how they're said.
They probably don't want for for instance, they might not
want ranting. They might not like this episode. They might
not want me saying did they miss something, which clearly
they missed something, and what is the family going to say?
The family's gonna say, what's going on? They missed something,
some of them, not all of them. I do have
(13:10):
cases of, you know, coming out soon with the suspect
did something horrible and the suspect's family was like, you know,
he wasn't that bad, and the victim's family is are
we are we thinking about the same case here. So
you know, some sponsors wouldn't want me pointing out the
fact that this is crazy. They just want me to
stick to the facts, tell the story and that's it
(13:33):
be out, no emotions in it. And with the victims'
families and friends reaching out to me in the past
and saying that the way that I do the cases
they like it, I'm not going to change the way
I do the cases. You know, I may edit it
a little bit but the renting and Raven is staying
because this is how they felt and they felt like
they weren't heard, you know. And I'm not gonna say
(13:55):
I'm speaking for all of them, because not all of
them has reached out to me, but some of them
have reached out to me, and this is like they're
hearing their frustration actually come out in a podcast. So
I'm not going to change the way that I do this.
So that's why I reach out to you. You are
my sponsors. You're the ones who can tell me what
(14:17):
episodes you want, what you don't want to hear. You know,
how you think I should edit the show, or you
think I should keep the show exactly the same. This
comes from y'all, so I do ask you, you know,
if you want to be part of that voice, then
join the Patreon. And this is not me asking for
just free money. When you join the Patreon, you do
get extra work that I put into the podcast. So
(14:40):
Patreon dot com forward Slash Love and Murder. Feel free
to check out the Bonus Tears and you can hear
Helicopter Flying overhead. Feel free to check out the Bonus
Tears and go ahead and join us over there. I
look forward to seeing you there, and as I end
each episode, I want to remind you that it's say
it with me now, all love and no murder, y'all.
Thank you for listening, thank you for your support, and
(15:02):
I will see you in the next episode. Bye.
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