Love4oneanother episode 10

It comes back to you, peaceful solutions, living in Heaven

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome back, y'all. This is Jeff Luna and the Love
for one Another Podcast. I want to welcome you back
to this wonderful journey through music life and how we
navigate through it all together. No, we do not talk
about hate here, but we do not act like we
are blind to those amongst us filled with hate. So

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strap yourself in as we take this musical journey and
learn to have love for one another. Welcome back, y'all.

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This is Jeff and I am back that I saw
them at the beginning. Anyway, Welcome to Love for one Another.
We are back, and we just uploaded the show the
other day and here I am doing another one because
things just keep on happening. Things keep on happening in
the world, and we need to talk about them. And

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for today, I was kind of excited because I said,
you know, I had this thought and I really want
to get it out there about what I'm thinking about,
and that's why I have a show. So let's put
something together because if you guys didn't realize it yet,
and I'm sure you can tell by the way I talk.
If anybody knows about speech patterns, usually you can tell
right away that I don't have a script. I just

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go off the top, off the cuff, whatever you want
to call it. I just kind of as it comes out,
it comes out. So sometimes it'll be flu and sometimes
it'll have some breaks, and sometimes you can hear me
sitting here going, damn, what I'm gonna talk about now,
because I just find it more interesting that way. You know,

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some people like to write scripts and talk about and
even sometimes make bullet points and this and that. I
don't usually do that. I usually just kind of have
something I want to talk about and then just talk
about it because that's usually when I get my thoughts
out better. So just in case you're going, man, this

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guy could tell by the way he talks and all
this and that I can tell too, And just so
you know, whatever, you know, it is what it is anyway.
So what are the things I was thinking about today?
And this shooting that happened over at over at the

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Ice Detention Center. So let's talk about a couple of things,
because there's well, you know what, I'll save that other
one for the end. But when I talked about in
the past, I've talked about having responsibility for the things
you say. Spider Man again, right, with great powers comes
great responsibility, and what you do can come back to you.

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If you ever watched what movie was it, bugsy Malone,
You give a little love and it all comes back
to you. Right, Well, if what you put out is
not love, then you're gonna get Whatever you're putting out
is going to come back in one way or another.
Doesn't make it right. Don't mix my words up. Do

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not resort to violence. In fact, I was talking about
this on my sports show for those Raider fans that
tend to resort to violence because they can't win. But
don't resort to violence, man, because that's where you got
to make a decision about. Yes, what I'm hearing is

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hateful speech. Yes, what I'm seeing as a hateful gesture. Yes,
what I see them trying to do is not great
for humanity. But you can't correct what's happening with more violence.
You can't correct the injustice by creating your own injustice,
even though something in use telling you that this is

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the only result that's going to get some type of action,
but it doesn't because all it does is lead to
more of that negative reaction to what you felt was injustice,
and it doesn't create a positive out of it. It
doesn't make the situation better. And nine out of ten

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you've created a whole world of injustice in itself by
trying to make something correct. You know. So there's other
options out there, And before I get into what I
was going to talk a about, I think you need
to research these options and talk to somebody, Talk to me,
talk to a professional, Go seek help, go to your

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local hospital calls, go to your church. You want to
go somewhere, go to church, find religion, get into your faith,
and then look for something better than resorting resorting to
violence when you're trying to make justice of violence, of hatred.

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There's a better way. There definitely is, and I'm hoping
you find it. That being said, you know, if you
look at what's happening with immigration now, people get it confused,
and I think and they want to point the finger

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right away that one group is all they're doing is
listening to propaganda and media and being told what to do.
And then they don't realize they don't look. You know,
you've got to kind of look backwards, like look behind
you and say, oh, that's what we're doing, and say
maybe that's not right. Even though we disguise what you

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feel is being right with law and order or we're
just doing our job, because we can still do your
job and do law and order, but you've got to
have humanity, compassion, and some sort of morals in the process.

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If you have. If I were to if you were
to ask me, do I respect a police officer as
a human being? Well, yeah, of course, you know, you
want to love each other, right, But a lot of
times police officers get themselves confused with forcefulness and what
they're trying to do out there, and they get lost
in the shuffle in hours, work and stress and everything

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else becomes part of their who they are. So then
you start to lose that faith and that trust in
that person, even though that you want to say, well,
they're a police and they're trying to do a job.
That doesn't just answer every question. You can't just use
that I'm just doing my job and you know it's
a hard job and all this stuff. You just forget

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everything else and you forgive them, and you just say,
go ahead and go crazy out there and violate everybody's
rights and treat them in an inhumane manner, and it
makes everything okay because you're just doing your job, but
still a police officer. You know what they've had to
do to get there, So usually you give them some

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sort of respect. You know, they went to school, they
went to training, the years of this and this and that,
and they had to do all this and that. But
if you take immigration right now, and you tell me
that a guy wearing a mask running around with amazon
police vest did everything that it took to learn law,

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to go to school, to go to college, to have
the units, to go to training, to go through all
the stuff that a police officer had to and you
want me to respect him enough to say, oh, well,
these guys are just doing their job and you suhould
respect them. No, I'm not. I'm not going to respect that.
I'm sorry. It's like somebody coming to my job that
has no knowledge whatsoever and they toss them in and

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he's going to run out there, and they go, well,
you got to respect No, he hasn't done nothing, he
doesn't know nothing, he doesn't know he's gonna go out
there and get shocked. So what do you have happening
right now? You got to look at the situation. You're
putting a lot of people out there in an extreme,
extremely fast method, slap a badge on them and give

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them about a week's worth of training and send them
out there and again have them start tackling people in
the streets. And then they're doing stuff that has lost
the faith than the trust in the community. You know,
everybody wants to say, oh, you got to just comply
and respect the police. You can't when they're breaking windows

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and ripping people out of cars and leaving babies out
in the street and children and taking their moms in
to where they don't even know. If you're going to
deport people, if you've got to follow the laws and stuff,
you can follow them in a humane way and figure
out a different way to do this. They've been doing
it forever, and yes there's been rough times and they

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weren't right. Those are the times that you look back
on and you say that that was right, we shouldn't
have done that. And then there's the other times when
they say, hey, they deported millions of people. How they
do that, and you even hear about it, Well, apparently
they weren't running around and we know they don't try
and fool me. Now we know they weren't chasing people
around in the streets and grabbing people just for working.

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Although they did go to work places of business and
do raids and stuff also, but they weren't just chasing
them through the streets or chasing them through the fields,
or chasing them off the work site, not in this fashion.
You got to know that what you do will come

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back to you. But we do not support violence. How
does that work in the same sentence? Right, what you're
putting out might just come back now again, anybody listening

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figure out a different way, protest, vote, change something, but
never resort to this violence. And that's I mean, I
just want to make sure I'm clear on that, you know.
But ultimately people are going to do what they do
and just say here in ex serprise. You know, what

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it gets me is that when somebody in charge sits
there and goes, what's wrong? What's wrong with this world?
They're just doing their jobs. You know, these are police,
these are immigration officers, and they're just doing their job
and we should just respect them. Meanwhile, you're not respecting anybody,

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even in law enforcement. When you arrest somebody, you're supposed
to respect them as a human being. If you go
and arrest somebody for breaking the law. They did something,
and you know, we see it all the time. I'm
not a cop. I didn't want to be a cop.
I didn't think it's worth it. You know, it's a

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lot of it's a very stressful job. And I have
a lot of family that were in law enforcement and
they did that. I saw what it did to them,
and I just didn't want to do it. And it's
not for me, man. But I can definitely respect the
police officer. But they got to respect the public too.
They got to respect people. Now, that doesn't mean somebody's
acting stupid, spitting in their face. You know. You know,

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you kind of exactly what I'm saying. What you put out.
You're gonna get back should the cops stomp your head
and you just get you know, gotta get them under
control and arrest them. Don't do all the extra stuff.
Once you get them in a handcuffs, you'd only be
slapping them around. Do your job, get them in jail,
let them pay me while you go home. You know,
all that extra stuff. And we wonder why the city

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gets sued and there's always issues and this and that.
It's because everybody goes and takes it a step further,
you know, talking about somebody like George Floyd and this
and that, and they're gonna arrest them and can't get
your damn knee office neck. The dude ain't moving no more.
You can't take your knee office neck. Sorry, I don't.
I'm not gonna sit here and act like I'm okay

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with that or I was okay with that or something
like that. No, it's not gonna happen. But but that's
where you gotta use some common sense, use some training. Man,
you're supposed to be trained. So that's where I'm coming
from on this whole idea of should this have happened? No,
you don't want nobody to be hurt. You don't want

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nobody out there picking people off. And then they didn't
even pick out They hit a from the news I
have as of this moment. They hit the detainees. This
guy took out the detainees and killed one of them
and two more are injured. Then you know, the guys

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talking about the cops. He didn't say nothing about the
detainees that might have been hit. They did later on,
So I'll give him that. But you know, you're creating
this is being created. This situation is being created. There's
always going to be crazy people out there, but you're
adding to it. And you have somebody that's in a
box somewhere that's that's saying, go out and do this,

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and he's like, oh, yeah, go out, you guys, do
what you gotta do. And people will, they'll go out
and do what they gotta do without thinking twice about it.
There's people that live for this. It's like, yeah, finally
we go get them, and not realizing what you're creating.
You're creating chaos in the streets, chaos in the streets,
and some days the people are gonna be start getting shot.

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I hope to god not, but things are gonna happen,
and then it's gonna get worse, and it's gonna get
worse because there's gonna be blame going here, blame going there.
Right now, you got fingers being pointed, like like they
just got two hundred fingers on one hand and just
pointing the fingers and saying, it's this group's fault, it's
that group's fault. It's a radical this and a radical that.

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And meanwhile things are just getting worse and worse. You
can't expect to have a good outcome when all you're
putting out is negative, When all you're putting out is
is a hatred, When all you're putting out is blaming,
you can't blame constantly blame and expect that the next

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thing that comes around is going to be a positive reaction.
Even just blaming people themselves is you're getting another group
of people somewhere that you don't know is getting riled
up because of the words that you're speaking and saying,
I got to go do something about it. We need
to be better, We need to know. We need to

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tell that person you think might say be saying I'm
going to go do something about it. Tell that person
in your speech of how bad you think that things
are that No, you don't have to go do nothing
about it. We're not telling you to go do nothing
about it. You are not going to solve nothing but
doing something about it. If you want to do something,
do it peacefully. We want to protest, Go and put

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protests peacefully. You can vote, and you can write your congressman.
You can do something even though we know they're not
doing nothing right now, but you still those are your options.
Do something good, you know, change the game. Man change
the narrative. We can do it and that which is
all that kind of leads me to the next subject.

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But we're going to take a break real quick and
we're going to come back, and we got to talk
about Heaven, Heaven, Heaven. I want to talk about it
because some ideas came into my head today and it
might give us a better perspective. I'm not going to
pretend like I know what heaven is, what it's about,
what you know. I only knows what I've been told.
So going off of that, from what I've been told

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and from church and from spiritual people and this and that,
we're going to talk about heaven and what it might be.
So we'll take a break and we'll be right back
and we'll get into the heavenly golden gates. This is
Jeff with Love for one Another. Be right back and

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we are back. This is Jeff Would Love for one
Another podcast. And today has been a touchy subject just
because people are getting hurt out there and we need
to make some decisions on how to make this better.
How do we make it better? We want to speak up.
We see a lot of things going on, but we

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want action, but peaceful action, don't hurt nobody, and if
you feel the need to go seek some help, don't
do it anyway. That leads me to this next little venture.
We talked about the rapture and people getting going to heaven.
I send a lot of cool little videos where the

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guy's flying and they're like, oh where am I going?
Oh check this out? This is crazy and kind of
silly stuff. I was really I was really laughing about
some of the the the videos that were being made,
and uh, it got me thinking about going to heaven

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and what that means. What does it mean to everybody.
Everybody's got, you know, different religions and stuff like that,
but usually in every religion it leads to some holy
land that we that were that we're headed to. And
and I think it's kind of cool because it's a
it's a start of something better, right, there's something better

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out there. Man, Oh my god, I can't wait. And
Heaven and the Golden Gates and you can walk up
and I forget who's standing there and they're like taking
roll and they're like, what did you do? And come
over here and we're gonna review your life and see
if you make it in and give your wristband and
there you go. You walk on in and uh, it's
party time. Right. Well, it got me thinking what would

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heaven be like? What would heaven be like? I'll give
it some thought, and what we hope it'd be like
is everybody's just welcome. Everybody's welcome, everybody's coexisting together, just
love and peacefulness, and God's up there and you might

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get to meet him someday and they talk about them,
but they're like a nobody's ever really gone. And Jesus
walking around, he's kind of like, hey, you guys, pick
up your trash, and you know, just lots of like
clouds and happiness. But here's the problem, I think, because
this is something that we all should think about, is

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that if that is what heaven is supposed to be,
or what is written or what is thought of, or
what we might hope it is, and this and that
and that, there's all this just greatness and all this
love going on and stuff. Why are we living our
life the way we are here? Because right here we

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got lines drawn, we got people we don't want here
because we feel they came from somewhere else. We've got
a lot of things that are not heaven. Like right,
and we say, well, that's Heaven. We can't wait to
get Yeah. But if you're not living with that thought here,
or if if your idea of the way you want

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to live your life now is division, separation, you're not
welcome here because you're from across on the other side
of that wall. So you're not welcome here because you
were born over there. If that's your idea of the
way you're thinking, right, And I know you're going to say,

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people are going to say, well, if they just did
it the right way, So tell me that. If you
go to heaven, and you get to Heaven and you
walk through the gates and they welcome you in, come
on there, and my child, and you walk in and
you see somebody that doesn't look like you, are you
gonna wonder why are they here? Shouldn't you be on

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a different side, like why are you? If you weren't okay,
doesn't matter how they got there. They might have did
it the right way. You just don't know. But if
you weren't okay with them right now being your neighbor,
a guy walking in, a lady of a family that
just don't look like you. Man, in heaven, there's no

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guarantee that we're all gonna look the same. What if
in heaven you're all brown, or everybody's black, or everybody's green,
or everybody's purple, what you expect them model automatically to
be white? Maybe well, they might be white because you know,
in heaven everything's white. We're gonna be wearing white gowns
and have a golden flowing hair. That might not be true.

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So okay. If if it's not true, and you get
to heaven and you walk in and you see other
people where, you're gonna complain because they nobody's paying, Like,
is there somebody's supposed to be paying for something? Why
do they have something better than you? Or should they?

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Did they work to get there? Are welcome there? Are
they living off the system? I mean, these are stupid questions,
But think about it. If you're asking those questions now,
and you happen to die and you go to heaven
and you still some type of conscience left and you
have an idea, maybe that's why we forget because we

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don't realize that. Oh my god, I was thinking these
thoughts on earth and I came to Heaven thinking the
same thoughts. I need to forget this. I need to
forget that. Oh my god, I can't believe I was
doing that. I shouldn't have been thinking that way, because
now in heaven, why I should be like, Oh, we're

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all together, we're all living. Uh, we're all spirits in
this wonderful clouds. And Jesus is here and he's like,
what my son, my daughter? What did you do? And
why did you know? Show me how you love that
other person? You're like, why are they here? They weren't.
I didn't like it when they were here on earth?

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Why would I like it when they're here now in heaven?
Or are you gonna go to heaven? Forget all that?
Is that? What happens you go to heaven and all
those thoughts you had of I don't like this person.
I don't want these people here. They are ghettoled, their
body o there, they smile, they look funny, they drive funny.

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All those negative thoughts that you had here on earth?
Where do they go? When you go to heaven? Where
do those thoughts go? Do you take them with you?
And if you take them with you, why are you
in heaven? Why if Jesus forgives you but you don't
get rid of those thoughts. What do you think is

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going to forgive you every five minutes he's gonna be
You need to go to the support group. Man, you
need to go to a building two and go to
third level because you got a problem, and you go
to third level on its pack, you can't get in.
It's a thought, why did I have this thought? Why

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did I have this thought? Because I just started thinking
about it. If you have negative thoughts, now, if you
feel that, Let's take a Charlie Kirk situation where he
talked about getting on the plane and seeing a black
pilot and then it's on the head he's thinking are

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they qualified that they go to school or are they
DEI or whatever? So if you get to heaven and
you see a maybe the person letting you in the
door is black, and you start thinking, wow, how they
get that position? Should you be in heaven? Or is
a trap dir gonna open? And you just go sliding

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on down the shoote like shoots and ladders, and near
your ass ends up in in hell. See the things
we do here on earth, and they're not good. We
make mistakes. We are human beings and we're very flawed.
But if you truly try and the next day you come,
I'm gonna try again. I know I make mistakes, you know,

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and I'm not talking about you go and hurt somebody,
and then the next day you go, I'm gonna try again.
You hurt somebody. You know, that's it's just wrong. You
got you gotta fix that or go jail something. We
pay for it. I'm talking about just living your life
and judging people and saying this is what I voted for.
Get them out of here, laughing while they're tackling people

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and ripping families apart, and you take the homeless on
the streets and you're just like, ah, why are they here?
They're ruining the area and this and that, and you
just have all this hatred in your heart. And then
if you go home and you love your family. I
love my family. Oh come here, let's go out on
the weekend. And then you go out to work again,

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you're like, I hate these people. I'm posting all these
things about how much you just voted for all these
people to be gone. Get rid of them, get them
out of my country. And then you go to heaven
and now you're okay, everything's great. I accept you well,
you didn't accept me before. What changed? Because you died?

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That changed you? When We've been telling you changed all
this time. God's been telling you to change. Jesus been
telling you to change. The Bible's been telling you to change.
Your friends have been telling you to change. People you
see on faces been telling you, hey, man needs to change,
and you just refuse to change. And he was like, no,

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they got to get in line. So what if you
get to heaven and everybody that was really trying to
just survive on this planet is just walking in and
they're just come on in. My son Cole come in
and there's just oh my god, there's still looking at
the thousands of people just walking on in. And you

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come up and they say, oh, you got to get
in line because of the way you were thinking on earth.
You got to earn it now to get in here.
Because you're supposed to be thinking about loving each other
and helping each other. You didn't do that. We'll let
you in, but you got to get in line. And
the line starts around the corner of heaven, and the

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corner of heaven you can't you just can't even see it.
Only where is it? I'm not trying to pass judgment
on you. I'm just saying it's something to think about
the way we live here on Earth should reflect the
way you feel that maybe you should be living in heaven.
How can you take how can you take the way

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you live here on earth to heaven and say I'm
going to live the same way on heaven or I'm
going to be a whole different person when that time
finally comes. Because right now I'm okay being a jerk
or an asshole, but when I get to Heaven, I'm
going to be a perfectly great person. How does that

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make sense? Does it even make sense? I mean, can
you even fathom? Can you put it together? Is what
I'm saying even sound right? Does it sound crazy? It
sounds stupid. Take the basic thought of what I'm saying.
If the way you live here on earth, whatever it
might be, I'm not saying every little thing driving a
car and doing this, and I'm talking about just your

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very self person that you get up every day, and
how you feel about the world, how you feel about people.
If that's what you're going to take to heaven, the
way you feel about others. Because one of the main
things if you look at any religion, if you look
at any thought of being here as a person, the

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one thing that's always true, the one thing that always
is just that you put everything on the side. But
the one thing that's always true, now, whether it be
good or bad, how you treat other people. How you
treat other people, just the strongest it shines through. It's
the one. It's it's the it's the if you ever

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play family feud, it's number one. How you treat other people.
So if you get there the very basics and they say, well,
how did you treat people on earth? Because you ain't
bringing that in here. I love you, my child, but

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you're not bringing that nastiness in here. You're not going
to come into heaven questioning why these people are here?
Are these people? Are these spirits? Are these they came
from here or there? If you couldn't live that way
on earth, how are you going to live that way
in heaven. It's it's a it's a weird thought. And

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and I don't know if I've heard this before. Maybe
I have. Maybe I'm speaking about something that's been talked
about for ages. I know they say, uh, you know,
you'll be judged when you get to Heaven. Yeah, but
that's fine. I understand that you got to forgive your sins, okay,
and yeah, you know, sinners all are we and you

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think about it all your life and like, oh man,
when I get to Heaven, I'm gonna you know, okay,
we're gonna review my life and this and that, and
I hope I passed that tests and you know, and
we even joke about it a little bit, and it's
kind of funny, you know, but when you really kind
of think about the reality of it that we get

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to Heaven, we're in a line and we get judged
or whatever, and they go, oh, you passed. Now when
you walk through the gates, how do you feel about
other people? And you go, oh, I love everybody And
you walk in and you're like, wait a minute, come
back here for a minute, because if you love everybody now,

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why didn't you love everybody before? Well? I did. Well, no,
don't don't lie it us now we know. Don't make
me call somebody over because we know you know, and
now we put it all out there for everybody to see.
Before it might have been a question like oh, we
got to review the tape. Now they don't get to

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review the tape no more because you put it all
out there on social media. What you think they're not
gonna know? You think they don't have internet. I'm sure
they got internet. They might have it in a different
maybe it's Jesus ned or something. They got something, and

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they're gonna know what you said and what you did,
and they're gonna be like, well, wait a minute, now,
that doesn't match. Let's see you put here that's what
somebody posted about, Oh, they shouldn't be tearing families apart,
and you put that's what I voted for it, And

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why would you put that? So if I let you
in this gate right now, you automatically change your review
and you love everybody now? Or if I let you
in this gate, are you gonna be a jerk in
there and want people take it out that get them
out of here, kick him off the cloud. You know,

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we got a strict policy here that we don't go
for that. You're like, yeah, but and you know what
are you gonna say? What are you gonna do? Because
the way we live here on earth does not reflect
the way that you would picture yourself living in heaven.

(33:23):
And if it does reflect that, then maybe you should
think again, because if we're why would that Do you
really picture heaven where there's only you there, only your kind,
only your type, only their way of thinking, mega or

(33:43):
liberal or whatever. That that's it, that's all that's there
that you know. There ain't nobody else you got because
apparently right now you've got an issue everybody. I'm not
talking about just Mega pee. I'm talking about everybody. You
talk about any country, any all around the world. Somebody's
got a problem with somebody. Somebody don't want somebody on

(34:07):
their land. Somebody don't want somebody dating their daughter to
the extreme, like where they're willing to die over. Pick
a subject, right, and then you get to heaven and

(34:28):
then you're like, all of a sudden, you're like, okay
with it. I've never hated this person. It was great,
Come on over, buddy. Doesn't match, doesn't match, It doesn't
make sense, it doesn't add up, it doesn't equate. It
just doesn't even tip of how it should be. That
doesn't sound right. Something's wrong with that way of thinking.

(34:53):
So what do we do? What do we do? How
do we get past that? I mean? Is that? Can
we change that? Because that's what we all do. It
I'm doing my best to stop doing it, you know,
but some people just make me angry because I don't

(35:15):
like the way they're thinking. I don't like that they
don't want to trust, love other people and not have
color lines and all this and that. So I'm doing
it too. I wouldn't want to be, you know, in
that situation, because I'd be like, man, you guys didn't

(35:36):
care about nobody down there, Like why are you here?
But now I'm doing the same thing what I'm saying
that I would question other people why they're doing it,
doing it with love in your heart? What do we
do to change it? That's where I think we need
to start thinking about how do we love each other?

(35:57):
How do we show love for one another? Because if
you don't show it here, how are you going to
show it in heaven. We can all laugh and joke,
and I think it's funny too about how you're gonna
get to heaven and we're flying and we're I'm on
my way, Jesus, or you hope to God, please let
me just die in my sleep. I don't want to
die in some horrific fashion. And you do, you die

(36:18):
in your sleep, and you're like, oh, I'm on my way, Jesus,
And then you got to stop and think, Man, did
I try in time? We all it takes time to learn,
It takes time to grow, It takes time that we
Maybe we just don't do it in our lifetime too.
Maybe that's why they say there's so many different lives
right the lifetimes that you live, because you just can't

(36:40):
learn it in one on how to be a better
person and be like I've earned it to walk through
those gates and be in heaven now because I can
live with everybody. It doesn't matter where you come from,
It doesn't matter what you look like, it doesn't matter
if you had the papers or not, and all the
open bars. I don't care. I don't care. This earth

(37:04):
was put here for us. If I can, If I
can't live on earth with everybody, how can I live
on in heaven with everybody? And if you can't actually
say that in your heart, then maybe we are doomed
to repeat this life over and over. You talk about
the rapture and are we still in it right now?

(37:26):
We might be. We might be doing this over and
over and over again because nobody can't get it right.
How are you going to move on to a better life,
to a heavenly place where you're going to coexist with
all these different beings and all these different souls and
all these different people from You don't know where they're from.

(37:47):
How are you going to know where they're from. You're
going to heaven and there's other souls there, and are
you going to sit there and judge each soul that
comes through the gate? Because they don't have a paper?
What are they doing in my heaven? That's where we

(38:08):
got to stop and think and wonder. How Wait a minute, Jeff,
don't make sense most of the time, but this kind
of makes sense. Shit, what do I do? What do
I do? Well? Guess what? You can change it? You

(38:28):
can change your way of thinking. Doesn't mean you have
to give in one hundred percent. Doesn't have to mean
you have to become a liberal. Doesn't mean you have
to become a mega or something. Forget the labels. How
about just following faith and doing what God told you
to do, or pick your religion and pick the best

(38:49):
parts of it. You don't have to go and find
something and say, well this party he said to do that.
Find take the best of what you were taught and say, man,
I need to do this. I need to follow love
people and know that there's something better out there for me,
and uh and take that and maybe maybe I can

(39:10):
actually earn the idea of a heaven. Because right now,
if what we're saying is true, if I can't live
with people now here on earth, how am I gonna
what excuse am I gonna How am I even gonna
make that make sense? If I can't live with people

(39:32):
on earth, how am I gonna live with them in heaven?
That's your future, that's your salvation is in question now
because there's a lot of people. There's a lot of
people that feel because they're old school, that feel because

(39:58):
this is the way I was raised, that feel because
I'm following the law. I'm just doing what I was told.
I'm just doing my job. And you're ripping people apart,
you're separating, you're dividing, you're creating the vision, you're hating,
You're you're laughing at, you're making fun of and and

(40:22):
enjoying people's pain because for some reason, you got it
right and they got it wrong. But yet you expect
to go to heaven with that same idea. How does
that make sense? Anyway, something to think about. We're gonna
take another break. This is Jeff with Love for one another.

(40:43):
We will come back and close this out with about
fifteen minutes left, twenty twenty minutes left and something to
think about. Man, but we'll be right back. This is
Jeff with Love for one another.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
Oklahoma teacher Bibles approved by State Superintendent Ryan Walters for
Oklahoma classrooms are back under the microscope. Some teachers who've
just received them are pointing out what's not included. I
got to see one of those Bibles for myself. Oklahoma
teachers are now getting a closer look at the God

(41:37):
bless the USA Bible placed in their classrooms, and some
are surprised by what they don't see. Previously, Superintendent Ryan
Walters said including the Constitution was an important part of
buying this Bible as well as its religious teachings.

Speaker 1 (41:52):
We've been clear in our guidance and the standards that
the Bible would be used in its historical context.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
Now, one social studies teacher is going viral on social
media pointing out what others might not have known. This
version includes the Constitution in the back, but leaves out
Amendments eleven through twenty seven, like the thirteenth Amendment, which
abolishes slavery, the nineteenth Amendment allowing women to vote, the
twenty second Amendment limiting a president to two terms in office,

(42:21):
and the twenty sixth Amendment lowering the voting age to eighteen.
I reached out to the publisher of the Bibles, who
said the decision was made to only include the original
founding Father's documents, as amendments eleven through twenty seven were
added at later dates. It was certainly mislead students if
they are given this Bible, and lawyers for Americans United

(42:44):
for Separation of Church and State are in the middle
of a lawsuit against Walters and the OSDE. They are
against adding biblical teachings to the newly approved social study standards,
which are currently on hold. Should constitutions and the Bill
of Rights show can't that be included in a Bible?

Speaker 1 (43:02):
That also doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

Speaker 2 (43:05):
What that does is sends a message that the Constitution
and religion are intertwined. And many of the Bibles those
classrooms are now receiving they were donated. That's because lawmakers
denied Walter's request this year to use three million in
taxpayer dollars to buy them.

Speaker 1 (43:26):
Good question here, why? Why? Why? You know? I went
to Catholic School CCD, and we were taught there, you
know several things, and one of the things that we

(43:49):
were taught about was things in the Bible, and it
was appropriate there. You know what we learned. You know,
I think I learned more than I know that I learned,
because there's things that I know that I probably wouldn't
have known if I didn't learn it there, because I
learned it anywhere else. And I did go to church
here and there, but not as much as I probably

(44:10):
should have. But why in regular school are you introducing
a Bible and then you put the Constitution in the Bible.
Then you didn't put the whole constitution. You picked and
choose what you want to put. See, this is where
I guess my earlier conversation is still on the decisions

(44:34):
we're making that don't seem right, They don't add up.
You're trying to keep certain ideas down, certain people out
of the equation, and you're trying to teach kids your version.

(44:57):
It doesn't make sense. I had heard something about this
this Bible that I didn't know that they were cherry
picking the Constitution. I don't know. I didn't agree with
the Constitution being in the Bible, but I didn't agree
with the Bible being put in the classrooms neither. There's
a place for that. There's a place for that. What

(45:20):
are we doing? What if you have a kid that's
in the school that's not Catholic or Christian and doesn't
want to know, I want to read that Bible? Do
you give them whatever literature from their religion or do

(45:40):
you say no, you're going to learn what we teach
you to learn. And that's it shaky ground, man, it's
a These are the things, these are the things that
lead to division. You are not creating unity. And then
that sounds weird because if if you let people learn

(46:01):
from their own Bible, like, well, that's divided, that's their there,
you're not creating unity, but you're also infringing on their
right as a as a human being to live their
life the way they want. They don't. There's nothing that
says that they have to learn one Bible and be

(46:22):
forced upon them. See here's the thing with a businessman,
and this is what's happening. And if you can't see it,
maybe you will later in life. I don't know when
you get older or something. Businessmen feel that if they're
paying the bill, you're going to do what they want
you to do. People that didn't serve in the public

(46:48):
a public servant doesn't uphold their their private personal views.
There are stuff that's in writing. You got contracts, you
got the union, you got city or whatever, be county,
and you're a public servant. So you're serving the public

(47:10):
and you've got to follow the rules are in place
for everybody. You know, you can't just go and run
it like it's your own personal company. The government and
the presidency, the legislative, all that stuff that's all from
our tax dollars. That's where we the people. There's a

(47:32):
reason why it's supposed to be like that, so it
serves everybody. You're supposed to be there for everybody, not
just for the right or the left, or for these
people or that people, or you're supposed to you know,
infringing or putting your own ideas and force people to
do it. Now, you can have ideas that maybe it
might improve upon something, but you can't take something and

(47:56):
just say this is the way it's going to be.
In that city, and we're paying the bills, so too bad.
If you want the money, you either do it or
you don't. And if you don't, then get the hell out.
That's not the way it works. I've been a public
servant for over twenty five years, and one thing I've
learned is people don't like me on the streets. They
feel that we're just there wasting time. And they will

(48:18):
drive by and call you names and yell at you
and flip you off and this and that, and you know,
I just wave to them and have a nice day, sir,
have a nice day. Why, because it doesn't matter. I'm
still doing my job. They don't know what I do
and to move on with my life. And I think
they should have a better PR company there or whatever,
but whatever. So you know, public servants, it's not your

(48:44):
personal business, not your private company. It's not your personal business.
You cannot come and forcibly make me have to read
the Bible. If I don't want to read the Bible,
I don't have to read the Bible. But yeah, here
we are, we're doing it. They're forcibly, Oklahoma. They are
putting these Bibles in every classroom and they are making
them the kids have to learn from the Bible. It's

(49:08):
not bad enough that the teacher has to teach them
math and arithmetic and I'm sorry math is arithmetic, but
reading and writing and everything else. But now you got
the teacher. What's the teachers? The teacher gonna make them
become a scholar and the Bible now and have to

(49:29):
teach the Bible? What did we do? What happened over
there that now they are teaching the Bible or making
the kids read from the Bible without any guidance. Is
it just they just read it, we're having Bible reading time?

(49:51):
Or is the teacher now become a teacher that has
to teach from the Bible? Or you bringing in some
specialized teacher. If you got the money to do that,
then you should have helped that teacher with funding for
all the stuff that they needed to do on a
regular daily basis, because that's where they need the help.
They didn't need the help with bringing in a whole

(50:14):
new teaching that they actually have schools built for just
that subject. When they have Bible studies, they have Bible
studies for a reason because that's specifically for that topic.
I'm going to college, Dad, I'm going to college, and
in college they just tossed in the Bible and now
I got to learn all the Bible stuff on top

(50:36):
of all my other stuff. And the teacher that doesn't
know the Bible at all is going to teach me
what are we doing and why? Why? And I think
here's the thing is that there's self gratification. There's this
self gratification and making you feel like I'm a great

(50:59):
person because I put the Bible into school like compar
conspiracy people said I should, and now I look like
a hero. And these kids are going to learn the Bible.
And now we could say the Pledge of Allegiance. Wait,
the Pledge of Allegiance in school again, that's not the Bible.

(51:23):
Oh we want to learn the Constitution. Well, now I'm
going we'll put the Constitution in the Bible. That way,
the kids got to read the Bible, learn the Constitution,
say the Pledge of Allegiance, and somewhere in there, they
better learn how to read and write and do math,
and the teacher better teach it all or they're going

(51:43):
to be punished somehow. Because I feel like I'm a
better person for doing that. That doesn't matter that their
family probably doesn't want them to learn the Bible. They
might want them to learn the Quran or giving me
anything else pick up religion. Wow, that's not no, they

(52:04):
teach a hate. Well, no, do you know what that
rather religion, whatever it might be, teach us? Did you
are you some scholar on every religion in the world
to do you made that decision? Now for them? Again,
we're having the government is forcibly telling people what to do,

(52:27):
and we're losing the idea of love for one another
by trying to fake and force that they're really doing
is I'm teaching. I'm teaching love you are Why are
you forcing it on somebody? Can't force an emotion on somebody.

(52:49):
Can't force love upon somebody. You can give him love.
You know what if you don't want to learn the Bible,
I'm not going to hate you for that, and I
love you even more. We want to learn your religion?
Good for you. No, we're not gonna do that. It's

(53:10):
not a good look. It's just it's not positive. Leading
ourselves into a different time here where we're going further
away from what we should be doing as people. And
how do we figure this out? I think a good

(53:32):
thing to do with my last segment is to listen
to that again. And it doesn't mean you have to
follow what I'm saying, but maybe give that concept some
thought because I think that might answer some questions. I
think it might answer some questions for me, and I'm

(53:53):
talking about me and myself. And if you get to
that same conclusion, but then I did my job. I
think we need to start thinking about this a little
bit more seriously. What actions am I taking today and
how am I living my life here on earth compared

(54:15):
to how am I going to live this life in heaven?
And I think if you ask yourself that maybe it
might change the way you think about what you're doing
on a daily basis, because that's a real question. We're
all going. We're all going. Now, what you believe is

(54:37):
what you believe. You can believe you don't go to
heaven and that you just rod in the ground, and
that's fine. I guess then there's no repercussion. You just
be an asshole every day, or maybe you don't. I
don't know. But for the most part, everybody believes in
some type of religion. For the most part, not everybody,

(54:57):
but whatever religion you believe in, there's usually some ending
to it. There's somewhere you're working on going, there's some
type of salvation you're headed to. And if that's the truth,
if that's true, and if they want to push Bibles
in school and whatever weird things they're doing, then they
must believe in some type of religion too, And with

(55:21):
that religion comes some type of ending and some type
of goal. Right, you're headed somewhere, So wherever that your
particular religion is leading you to, can you live in
that salvation, that heaven, that place with the same way

(55:45):
you're living here on earth today. And if you say,
well no, I'm living here on earth now, that's going
to be different. Well but how is everything going to
be forgotten about? And you're just going to automatically snap.
You died today, something happened traumatic in your life and bam,

(56:07):
within seconds you're dead. And in this life that you
lived here on earth, you felt that if you weren't
born here, you shouldn't be here. Get them out of
my country. If you felt that if they're picking fruit
and stuff, then they're below me and I have a

(56:27):
better job I worked hard for. If somebody was getting
some type of public assistance. Then they're trash and they
shouldn't be here. They just taken advantage and get them
out of my country. If you felt that because they're
darker than you, that there's some type of lower class
person and all of a sudden, what happened? I died up.
You're getting sucked up into heaven and oh my god,

(56:49):
oh this is great. I can't believe it. And you're
going and you're, oh my god, I'm going to heaven
and you get there? What changed in you to live
your life in heaven the way you were living it
on earth? Can is it automatically change? Do you think

(57:12):
that everything gets wiped clean? Do you think that nobody
was paying attention? If God, if you're going to judgment,
what if God asked you or Jesus that, or somebody
ask you if I'm going to let you into my heaven?
The creator of the heaven and earth, and he says,

(57:36):
I'm going to let you into my heaven. I built this.
This was for everybody, but on earth you didn't want
to live with everybody. Why should I let you in?
Something to think about this is Jeff would love for
one another. Thank you for being part of another show
this was an important show for me. I also thought

(57:57):
I had and I hope I helped you along the way.
I'm here. If you need to talk, reach out to
me and we'll talk about it until next time. You guys,
take care of peace and that always and always showed
up for one another.