Love4oneanother Episode 4

Why do things happen and how do we get through it?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:04):
Welcome back, y'all. This is Jeff Luna and the Love
for one Another Podcast. I want to welcome you back
to this wonderful journey through music, life and how we
navigate through it all together. No, we do not talk
about hate here, but we do not act like we
are blind to those amongst us filled with hate. So

(00:25):
strap yourself in as we take this musical journey and
learn to have love for one another. Welcome back, y'all.

(00:57):
This is Jeff Love for one Another. And I could
say it right and I welcome you back to my show.
This is episode four. We are making great win headway
here and that's great things to talk about and lots
of things coming up in this world that just make
you a question why, why things happen, why life takes

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the turns that it does, and for each of us
in our own world of the question of why we
get the question of how do we move on and
how do we survive? And not that there's an easy answer,
because there's never an easy answer, right, No matter what
people have been through, no matter what people could tell

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you and try to help you through, they are not
going through what you're going through. So there is no
easy answer and it always makes it hard to listen
to what people tell you without thinking or having some
feeling about it, you know, like your telling me, but
I can't hear you right now because of what I'm

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going through, because of what I'm dealing with and what
life has tossed me at this time. And even though
I appreciate your help, I don't want to hear it.
You know, sometimes we go through that, we venture down
that road of how are you going to talk to
me about things when when I'm the one going through it,

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you're not. And at the same time, we want to
be appreciative because we know people are trying to help.
People do care. People care, and they care a lot,
and sometimes it shows and sometimes it don't. Not everybody
knows how to express their feelings and how to help
you along with whatever you might be going through. So

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it makes it a very difficult road and whatever you
might be going through right now, you know. For oops, man,
I tell you I was, and I might do it
on the show. I was setting up to do a
little bit of a percussion because sometimes you got to
just bang things out right. You got to if you

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a musician, you want to just get on your instrument
and bang it out, strum it out, whatever is that
you do, it gets you, helps you get your frustration
out right. And sometimes you create, and sometimes it doesn't
matter if you create. You just want to make that
sound that gets you through your moment and do something.
And that's what I was setting up to do. And

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in the process, I spelled my drink on my equipment
and how to clean that up. Microphone wasn't working, camera
wasn't working. It's like everything that could possibly go wrong
is going wrong to not complete this process. And I
had to ask myself, why, why is that happening? Should
you get frustrated and say no, I just got to
get this right and do what I want to do,

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or should I take it as like, you know what,
maybe that's not what's important right now. Maybe what's important
is getting out what I needed to talk about. So
I thought about it and I said, you know what,
I think I just need to start recording, because sometimes
I think that's what's more, the vital rights more what
we need to do. And sometimes it could help, and

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sometimes it don't. You know, who's to say, man, I
tell you, sometimes we just don't know. We don't know
what road we're on and for what purpose? Because a
lot of times things just get in the way and
things happen, and it's like why why, Like whatever you
believe and if you believe in God, why God? Why
if you believe in God? But that's not your faith,

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that's not what you do. You just ask yourself or
you ask a friend or family and why is this happening?
And how do I get through it? And then they
try and help you, and then I don't want to
hear it. And you see other people going through their
day and they're having such a great time, and you're like, man,
I wish I could be there right now, because just

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things just aren't right, things aren't working, you know, and
it happens. It happens to everybody. If you look around
this world and whether this helps or not, if you
look around at how many things happen to how many
people on any given day. I mean, you can just
look out, or you can look online, you can look outside,

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you can walk around, go to the mall, you know,
just go to the mall and look at how many
people are dealing with issues, even issues that you go,
why are you here shopping? Look at you look what happened,
and they're there and they're making it through their day.
You know, there's a story after story of people that
go through trauma and through sacrifice, but they're still here

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and they're they're working it out some way, and we
don't know what's going on. I mean, they might be
a struggle every single day. Then again it might be
because of things they've done and ways they made it
work that they're able to continue on, you know, continue
on with life and being in for somebody else. And
then sometimes if they are that inspiration, we need to

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look at that and say, man, they are my inspiration, Like,
my goodness, how did you survive going through this similar
to what I'm going through right now, whatever it might be,
How did you get by? You know? Do you must
have had a lot of help? You know? Then you
find out, man, they didn't have any help. They didn't

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have anything to help them get through. In fact, the
people that they counted on most to help them weren't
able to. Maybe some weren't able to, some didn't want to,
some tried and couldn't. And it's just like, man, it's
an obstacle everywhere you turn, and how do we get
past that? Man? You know, do I have an answer. No,
I'm not gonna say and pretend like I have every answer,

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But sometimes I'll tell you sometimes it's more of a listening,
listening to what's trying to get through to you. It
could just be that person that you don't even know
you see them, maybe you've seen them several times. I

(07:08):
got a neighbor that I've seen and he's got this
truck and it's a real nice truck. I was like, Wow,
that's a nice truck, and didn't know. I'd just seen
him every once in a while. And then one day
I met the store and I see him and a
big the side of the whole truck opens up and
then a thing comes out and he's in a wheelchair
and he can barely move. But he's got this truck.

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He's driving around and he had it built. I guess
they built it so he can still drive it being
of whatever happened to him. And he got out and
he's like hey, I'm like, hey, how's it going okay?
You know, and he just went about his day and
I was just like, oh man, I'm sure he's probably
seen me too. We got very distinctive trucks, so I

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didn't ask him anything, not you know, his personal business, whatever,
but it just made me think, like, wow, you know,
whatever happened to him, he's still living his life. He
got by now, maybe be good or bad or whatever.
He used insurance money to get that truck or maybe
just had money. I don't know, but it made me
think like, wow, you know, I you know, there's things

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that have happened to family members and people in my
life over time and thank god. You go, wow, thank god,
you know you made it through that, or we're here
for you, or whatever the case, and you kind of
just kind of always step back and go, man, what
would happen if it was worse or whatever? You know,
who would be there? Who would be there for me?

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Would anybody be there? Would people try to be there?
And then you know it just lots of questions and
questions and questions. But you know, one of the things
I'll tell you is this whole when I look into
what we try to do from the thought of the

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show Love for Woman, other the idea of why things
get us so upset When I look online and I
see things of the way people are being treated today
in this age, and this is nothing new. This are
things that have happened all through time, the treatment of others,
and it's so discouraging because it's like, man, if we
could all get past that and just be here for

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each other, things that happen wouldn't be so traumatizing. It
would be what am I gonna do? Then it might
be more of like, man, I know there's gonna be
support whichever way I turn right, but the world don't
work that way. So in the meantime, it really comes

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to how do we change this on a daily basis,
because the time may come when you do need that person,
You do need that help, You do at least need
that feeling that somebody's going to be there, and if
they're not, can I do this? Because right now, I'll
tell you there's people that do it all by themselves. Man,

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they do it all by themselves. Do they get by
on faith? Do they get by on assistance or just
the thought that I'm not gonna let this be the
thing to take me down? I'm not. I mean, there's changes.
There's things that happen to you that change your life

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that can be life changing alterations in whatever it is.
It just could be financial, it could be physical, it
could be anything, and how do you get through this moment?
And some people have to do it all alone. That's
enough to get me to get up every morning and go, man,

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I there's times when it's just things are detrimental, Man,
how do we get through this day? It's bad, some
things are terrible. How do I get through this day?
And then you go, man, some people are doing this
all by themselves, like nobody there, nobody there, but they
still get up, they still go, and they they and

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they some people have wonderful life, you know if you
were to ask them. Some people were just happy to
be alive that, you know. And we sit back and
we go, man, it can't just be can't just be like, oh,
I'm just just be happy you're here. No, you know,
things were different and now now things were a different

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way and now they're this. You can't tell me just
be happy, you know, just be thankful, you know, because
it gets frustrating. But then, like I said, when you
look around, you go, man, I've seen some people, you know,
I like, excuse me. Instead, I work downtown in La
and and I've seen people on a daily basis just

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in bad situations. And you know, every day they're there
every day, they're there. I just I go, man, I
what a life? I I just feel sorry at one point.
Then I feel like, man, you know what they're doing
it and that makes it like what am I gonna
complain about? You know? Cause I mean I judge other

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people and tell 'em, well, well you shouldn't complain, cause no,
that's everybody's got their own struggles. Man. You know, everybody's
got their own struggles. Like you can have people just
trying to get by day to day. Maybe they're they're
halfway decent, you know, not really making a lot, but
just enough and just barely paying bills and and hoping

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for something better. But then you know, I it's I
I I I say, you know, life it's always been tough.
Things have always been hard for everybody and including myself,
and and it's just a matter of dy just you
can't give up. You just it's a funny thing to say, right,
just don't give up, just keep on pushing and things
don't get better. Oh that's nice, that's nice for you

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to say, Yeah, I'm still here struggling. You know, got
to be there for other people. You don't know when
your time is going to come to have to figure
it out for yourself. So when you're there to help
other people, to love other people, to show that I'm

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here for you, it might not be the way you think.
It may not be the way that you needed me
at the moment. I just people can only do what
they can, but I'm still here. I'm still here, and
I'm ready to help. Tell me what you need and
I'm going to do what I can. And then on

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the other side of that, when you do you know, hey,
I need your help and somebody goes, hey, man, I
can only do A, B, A and B. I just
can't do C. Or I can't do A and B
but I could do. See, he's not really gonna help
me right now. But you know what, thank you, thank you.
You know, sometimes it's just the thought that somebody is

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willing to be there to be there for you at
the time of need to listen, to be the ear,
to be somebody that you can talk to for that minute,
just to get you by, just to get by for
a few minutes, to say, man, thank god, somebody was
there to listen. Because I'll tell you one thing, not

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everybody has that that simple thing of being able to
reach out to call somebody. That is a very rare thing.
You know. Sometimes you just people are just alone. What
do they do? What do they do to get by?

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And that might push you to say, you know what,
gott be thankful, man, thankful for the stuff I got,
what little it might be. Man, it's not so bad.
And can I be there for somebody else? Sooner or later,
somebody else is gonna need help. Somebody else gonna need
a lift, a lending hand, somebody else is gonna need more. Man,

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you might have to give a lot to help somebody.
And then sometimes it just might be somebody calling and saying,
I just need to talk for a minute. I just
need to talk for a minute. Man, things are terrible.
I need to get through this moment, and your words,
you what little they might be. Sometimes, you know, you

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know what's funny is that there's been times when when
you don't need to hear their explanation or their their
ways to make it better. You just need that ear it.
Just Hey, can you give me a minute? I just
need to talk and get this out, and you don't
need to say much. All I just want to do
is just get this out and then you you talk

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and you talk and you talk, and a person listening,
and that right there can make such a difference. It's
not the content, it's the ear, the fact that somebody
actually listened for a minute. Sometimes people don't want to
hear it. I don't got my own problems, man, I
want to hear yours. But you know, sometimes that minute,

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ten minutes, fifteen minutes out of your day might make
the difference in somebody's life. I see people going through it, man,
I see people I know going through it, questioning why
they're here. Like you know, I don't know if you've
all been through it. Some people. You can't judge nobody
on the color of their skin or all that stuff

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to know what they've been through. Some people have been
through a lot. When you think like, oh man, you
ain't been through that. No, sometimes you just don't know.
They've been through a lot, and how did they get
through it? Right? So they made it through it, and
they made it through their time of need, and that
moved on and sometimes things get better, sometimes they get worse. Man,

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I'm not gonna lie. It's not like, Hey, if you
make it through this, everything's gonna be great. It's a man,
you can be trial after trial after trial, and it's
just like, man, it's it just makes it difficult. But
this is life, this is what this is what you know.
We are here, We are here going through it together

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and that and that's the thing that we got to remember,
is that we're here going through it together, you know,
for what might be happening to you. That's terrible, you know,
happens to probably thousands of others that got to try
and figure it out too. And that's why we got
to push to stay together, stay together as people. Man,

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Stop trying to be different. Stop trying to separate each other.
We're not. We don't need to separate ourselves so much
to where you feel like you're alone. All that separation
and and people are different, and you know, and it
just pushes people to feel like there's nothing out there,

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there's nobody out there that can deal with what I'm
going through or feel what I'm going through, when actually
there's a lot. There's a lot, and there's actually help
groups out there. There's people out there that have gone
through exactly what you're going through or something similar, and
they're actually there saying come to us, call us, and

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we will talk with you. And help you. And sometimes
that group might not be the one, it might be
a different one. Right, But there's people that are going
through the same thing you're going through or similar and
they're actually there to help you. They're there waiting. A
lot of us won't give into that, including myself. I would,
I probably wouldn't do it. I probably wouldn't do I'm

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sitting here and go through it all by myself and
try and figure it out. And you know, but the
older you yet, you start to think, man, maybe I
should just make that call. Maybe I should. Somebody out
there might understand me better than who I thought would
understand me. Sometimes you have family, you go, man, family
should understand Now they don't. They don't. There's still people.

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Sometimes family is just is people too. They're trying to
figure it out themselves, and you can't just assume that
they're going to have all the answers. You know, sometimes
they don't. And we gotta allow that, allow that, be
okay with that. Because your expectations are set to a
certain level and you don't get the answer. That can

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be a whole other letdown in itself, and then it's
a continual falling down the ladder. Of all these letdowns.
I had my letdown of whatever happened to me. The
person I reach out to that I thought would be
there let me down. Then that person you know, said
something they didn't like, and now it cascades and it
keeps getting worse and worse and worse, and before you

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know it, the problem that you were having turns into
multiple problems instead of just the one problem. Right, So
sometimes you gotta you gotta understand that the person you
reach out to might not be the one that might
not be where the answer is going to come from,
or the help is going to come from, or the

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comforting words or the the thing that's going to make
it all better. Sometimes it's where you're not looking. And
you got to give it that time. Man, You got
to give it that time, because you can't. You know,
the thing you got to remember is your life itself
is precious. It's precious, it's and it takes time. It

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takes time to break, and it takes time to heal.
So give yourself that time. And the answer is going
to come around, sooner or later. It might take a while.
It might take some some hard times, man, it might
it might be some some battles. But then in the end,

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you know, and the end result comes out and you're like, wow,
I never thought i'd make it through that. I just
you know, and you might still be struggling, but but
now you can do it. Either you're doing it together
with somebody, or you're it, or you gain the strength yourself.
You know, don't forget when when you're good, other people

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are good. If you're if you're the one going through trouble,
somebody else that went through trouble and is doing better
is the one that's gonna be there for you. And
then you're gonna gain that strength and you're gonna get through,
and then you're gonna be the strength for somebody else.
It just it's human nature, you know. So though there
is no easy answer, there's not always a way out.
There's not always this golden answer like, oh I listened

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here and man, that gave me the answer, and now
I'm this great person and I know everything. No, but
if you look around, take a little from here, take
a little from there, I think you'll find it. You know.
Sometimes when I think I found it, I I think
I'm good, and then all of a sudden, something else
comes around. I'm like, oh my god, and I I

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just learned something else and I'm gonna take from that
too to add to what makes me function every day.
Cause every day is not easy, man. Every day is
a struggle, right, So you gotta f take a little
from here, a little from there, a little from uh
problems that you've had, a little from struggles, and put
it all together and say, Okay, this is what it's

(22:27):
gonna get me by today. And then today might be
a tomorrow might be a whole nother struggle, and we'll
figure that one out. You know, I've seen people in
and UH and I I I don't know what they're
going through in their personal life, but I get the
I get the call for help, even though they might

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not be calling for help. You can hear it, you know,
you can see it. They're going through some struggles with
their own personal What do you well? Why am I losing?
What I want to say, are own value of who
you are? Why am I here? What am I doing here?

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I'm not worth nothing to nobody? So and so don't
feel like they should about me. They don't like me,
they don't want me here. You're all alone. You probably
got maybe you got nothing and the whole world's crumbling
around you. You just feel like, man, I would be
better off gone. Me. Being here is just a wasting

(23:34):
time and space. And I've seen that I felt it
in the past, And you know the problem is is
that we don't realize. I didn't realize that there's there,
you know, one person, even though you feel like you

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might be alone at the time, there's a whole world
that's been built around you, especially the older you get,
and you don't realize it. But over time you either
have family, grand kids, grandkids, give it a pets, whatever,
There's there's always something that's built around you and your

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being and somehow you affect it one way or another.
You might not know it, you just don't realize it.
And then there's even the things that struggles that you're
going through that might actually benefit somebody down the road
that they're waiting like that time is waiting. Maybe it
might be next, the next day, the next week, and

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a year from now that that person's going to need
something that you were going to provide that you didn't
even know that you feel that you're not You're being
isn't worth that time. But as you go through life,
things you say, things people you come across, words of
inspiration or just something you might be there at that

(24:59):
right moment. You just don't know it yet. Your purpose
here is more than what you think it is. We
we we we tend to close their eyes to that
and we don't wanna believe it because of how much
pain we're going through at the time. You know, And
even when you've been here, you try and be there

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for people all the time, and you try and do stuff,
and you're like, man, they just don't realize it. And
I've tried, and I've tried, I've done everything I can.
And little do you know that there's actually people that
are thinking about you. You know, whether you think that
you might just say not jeah, if you're wrong. Nobody does.

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And I can't speak like I don't know people's personal
lives and stuff, but I'll tell you every time, if
you really dig into somebody's life, somebody's life and what
they've gone through somewhere around their time, there's somebody that's
been there that really is just thinking about them and

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wanting better for them and hoping and praying and actually saying, man,
I wish they'd just reach out to me and I
want to reach out, but I'm worried and they might
not want to listen. And there's a lot of things
that get in the way time, day, work, anything. You
could go down a list right of things that get
in the way of why that person didn't reach out

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at the moment, or or the other person that's going
through it just doesn't even know. So they're not asking
or they're not talking, and they just feel that the
small little world that's immediately around them, and that's the problem,
and there's no fixing it. So why am I here?
Just got no reason to be here, you know. But

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in all reality, there's a whole other world. There's a
whole other thing that's waited out there. You can go
through half your life and struggle the whole way, and
you can find a better way and take that path,
and it's still might be a struggle, but it's worth
the try. It's worth to try. It is it really is,

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you know. It. See a lot of people that start over.
They start over, whether it be financially, whether it be
sometimes the money is not so important, man, you know,
sometimes we need to let go of the things that
we thought were important to physical things and get more
into the spiritual things. And I'm not talking about straight religion.

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I'm talking about what's in your mind and what you
can do for others or for yourself. When you just
start carrying more and you're not going to get it
back right away. Sometimes the answer is not going to
come back right away and just be this quick and
visual answer that you're like, oh, yeah, there it is.
I mean take time, but that's okay. Just you know,

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gotta try. It's worth it. It's worth it. You know,
there's more out there. There's a lot more out there.
There's places and people you've never seen. There's a whole
other path. There's not just this world we live in
right now where it's just politics and craziness. Right there's
a whole another venture out there, and uh, sometimes you

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just gotta try it, look for it, ask questions, you know,
and it's possible. It's possible. But like I said, I'm
not sitting there with these golden answers that I could
just tell, oh, you need to do this and you
need to do that. That's crazy, that's craziness. Everybody's going

(28:38):
to find their own path. My my, my answer to
anything is just to just love, love people, and it'll come.
You gotta gotta be there for people, and then when
you're when their time is needed, then somebody's going to
be there for you. It happens, you know. Anyway, We're
going to take a break in a few in about
a minute right now, I was gonna get into some music,

(29:03):
and I think there's a lot going on that we
need to We see things going on right now, a
lot of people not being there for each other. That
seems to be the goal right now. That seems to
be the common denominator is not to be there, just
don't be there for people, separate everybody and you know,

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taking pride in that for some reason. So we're in
a tough situation right now where it's a tough little
world we're living in and we need to get by it.
And we're not going to do it by promoting the hatred.
And we're not going to get through it promoting to
keep being not being there for people. That's a weird thing,

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right It doesn't even sound right if you were just
to say it like, it just sounds weird. So we're
going to push to keep on loving, loving each other,
having them for one another, love for one another. Then
my words get mixed up. Man lately talking too fast.
Have love for one another and that will make everything better.

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So we're gonna take a break and we'll be back
in just a minute. This is Jeff with Love for
One Another Podcast, and I'll talk to you in just
a minute, right, and we are back with Love for
one Another Podcast. We are here to talk about things,
just things, no format, no real thought process as far

(30:31):
as what each show is going to be about, because
things change on a daily basis. Life changes, and I
gotta tell you, sometimes life changes unexpectedly and we got
to deal with it. So that's kind of been the
topic of today and I'm okay with that. I'm okay
with that because I think that's the way that we

(30:55):
communicate the best, is when we can talk about things
just come up. And you know, sometimes when you plan
things out and things that don't go the way you plan,
that can make it worse. Right, So sometimes being where
you can just go on the fly, like, you know,

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what are you doing today? I don't know. I don't
really have plans and I didn't make plans and I'm
still not going to make plans. Let's just take it
as it comes, and sometimes the spontinuity mess that word
up earlier how to re record everything because I couldn't
remember how to say it is the best part of
the day. And sometimes people need that in their life,

(31:38):
and sometimes you know, and there's other people that just
need to be like, everything's gonna be planned. Man, don't
try and surprise me with nothing, and don't try and
hit me with all these weird things, because you know what,
I need to know what I'm doing and I need
to know that way I feel better about it. I
know it's planned and I can see the future, even

(31:59):
if if it's not exact. But as long as I
have a direction that I'm good and you know, that's cool.
It doesn't work for everybody, but it's cool. It's one
of those things that everybody's different, man, I'll tell you.
But sometimes though we can't control that, right, it's just
like things happen and it's like, well, wait a minute,

(32:22):
I don't like this because I didn't plan on this
happening and I didn't want this to happen, and it's bad,
and how do we get through it? So that's kind
of been the topic of the day, and a lot
of it leads back to the same thing I'm telling
you that that that's what this shows about, and it's
the same thing over and over, is that when you're
there for others, when you least expect it, somebody will

(32:47):
be there for you. And it's what helps. And with
the recognition that there's other people out there that don't
have that, they just don't have it, and where does
it leave their life, you know, when they're all alone.
And and maybe sometimes we don't know the exact answer,

(33:11):
and we may never know the exact answer to how
they ended up in that situation. But sometimes it just
the understanding, you know, be understanding and and and that's
the problem right now. And that's what I'm what I've
been facing with lately, is the and it's to me
being that this is what I push for. It makes

(33:33):
it a little bit hard to navigate because you see
so much of it, and there's so much people out
there just not purposely not wanting to be there for others.
They're purposely wanting to see people in pain. And that's
where we have this this tough road. And it makes
it hard because you don't you go, man, you're saying

(33:57):
all this, but the reality is here. Look at this,
and it's right here, It's all over the place. You
can't ignore it. People just don't give a crap no more.
They don't give a damn. But you know what, I
can go through And a lot of times I remember
saying this one time too a family member years ago,
years ago, when I was young man, I was, you know,

(34:20):
and I was talking about Prince music and I was
so proud. I'm like, well, he speaks about politics and
about this or that and in this particular song, and
they go, well, people have been singing about that forever
and I was like, oh devastated. I was like, no,
what are you talking about. It was very very much

(34:43):
caught into the whole world of Prince and the music
that nobody else has done it, just him, And then
it was like learning. It was a learning moment for
me that this is nothing new. Over time, this has happened.
People sang these songs, ungs, They've questioned the same things,
people have complained about the same things over and over

(35:08):
and over, and were like, right back to where we
started again in life. Problems right, But along with things
that don't change, things that don't change in life, there's
also the other things that don't change, and one of
them very simple, is that the more that you're there

(35:32):
for people, the more we can all make it through this.
And I think if you really look at what has
been the continual the thing that's always been there that
you know you need to take war wild, war has
always been there and it's always probably going to be

(35:53):
there in some form of fashion. But it evolves and
it changes in that's something that can be It can
kind of be stopped or controlled in one way or another.
So it's not something that's always gonna be there. It's
just it's always there because of us. We're the ones
that bring it there. Right, you got technology, let's say

(36:17):
that's just time sign times, right, we got drugs, we
got this, we got that. So there's a lot of
stuff that you can always say that it's just always
gonna it's always been there, it's always going to be there.
But that's stuff that changes throughout history, and it changes
its form, and it it changes the the way it's
either manufactured or or the way that it's uh presents itself.

(36:41):
So if it's war, it's going to be and it
used to be fight at hand combat. Now it's probably
going to be more through computers or something where people
really don't get as involved. Even though we do see
wars happening right now that it's involving people in their
it's kind of like an old fashioned war being fought,

(37:03):
but with new technology it's kind of strange. So that changed,
but it didn't really change. Then you have the things
that it could have probably been, and see stuff like
that can be prevented and is not prevented because it's
something you force upon somebody else. It's something that could
be prevented just by people understanding that there's other people

(37:26):
in the world don't want to coexist and it's going
to take that person that's starting it to reach a
different ground within themselves, you know, and we're not going
to see that. It's you know, we can't control what
other people do, even though you won't try. You can
force people to do this, force people to do that,

(37:49):
but it's not always going to work. So so that's
kind of one of those things that we know it
can change, but it's really not going to change. But
then there's the things that will never change. It just
will never change. And one of those things that, you know,
it's how we feel about each other. You can always

(38:13):
the love has always been there. It's always been there,
you know. It's one of those things that just it's
it's very present, how you feel, how you treat other people.
It's it's a possible. It's a possibility that's very easy

(38:33):
to obtain without without am I struggling to find the
the way to say this. It's something that it's always
going to be there. It's not something that's going to
change with technology or anything like that. Now, the way

(38:55):
it's presented, of course, can change, but the feeling, the feeling,
we're all the same. We're all people again, we're all
built of the same thing, We're all made of the
same material. So the possibility of it being one of
the strongest, most present things ever is always going to
be the Nobody wants to talk about it, you don't,

(39:16):
you know, you don't want to say you can say,
if you talk about something that's always been around, the
first thing that people are going to go to is, oh, well,
war or or politics or this and that, And it hasn't.
It hasn't. But if you take any person, a person,
a in person, be it doesn't matter what they are

(39:38):
or who they are or where they came from or anything.
There's always a feeling toward that person. You can have
a feeling toward that person. What that feeling is is
either going to be depending on the time period, it's
going to be several things, right, fear, uh, anger, uh,

(40:04):
love or Jay's give me another one. But if you
were to take the very basics, the one of the
strongest ones, uh, that should be there is always gonna
be love. You gotta if you don't. If if you
were to just be here and treat each other right
through all of time, from the beginning of time till now,

(40:28):
things would would be different. And then how do we
get there? It's like it's it's kind of like, uh,
I could talk about it all now, People have talked
about it in the past, and people probably talk about
it in the future, but it's it's really comes down
to how much do we apply it and talk about
it all day long. But if nobody applies it, then
it's not gonna happen. And that's probably what's been said

(40:51):
in the past. You take some of the world's greatest,
greatest leaders, however they were presenting it, and usually it
was always a about uniting, uniting people treating people right,
and and it just didn't happen like there was always
people fighting against it, and then they fight against it

(41:14):
so much they end up taking that person out. So
it's easier to divide than to bring people together. And
that's a fact. There's a lot of benefits in dividing people.
You know. Some of the greatest things that are created

(41:35):
are to divide people, not to bring them together. You
brought people together and stop the separation, then you min
us a lot of things where there's financial gain or
there's a building of weapons, there's a building of walls,
and creating different platforms for people to stay separate, you know.

(41:58):
So it's always easier and it's always a better business
plan is to keep people separated. And business in itself
is a is a very uh separating you know. You
you want to divide and conquer, and and the only
way you're going to profit is to make sure that
only a certain portion is where the mass profits are made.

(42:23):
The rest of it is just kind of dwindled down
and spread out, you know. And it depends on your
product too. If you if you have a product that's
in hand, yeah, it's gonna benefit somebody in some way,
but the most benefit is gonna be the business owner
to to profit from that. So if it were turned
the other way around, where the profit was the people,

(42:47):
you know, and that the possibilities are there in medicine
and technology, and if the profit, the profit were to
be on the bull side where you're giving and you're
saying this is for all, I just need to make

(43:07):
enough so we could keep supplying this not profit to
where there's the profit is so big that it outweighs
the product and the people. But that's what it's kind
of been all through time. You know, it's a greed.
It really comes down to us as human beings. We

(43:28):
have the need for the greed, right you got you
want more, You want more and more, And it takes time,
It takes time throughout your time here as a person
there to learn that you know what all that profit
wasn't is important as the treatment of others and being

(43:48):
here for other people. So you know, you see it
in any business you look at. It's very rare that
you're going to find a very a very profitable business
that's here just for the people. And you know what,
it's supposed to be a civil service, but it's not
turning out that way as much, no more. And a
lot of it has to do with the amount of

(44:09):
money they see coming through. If you're in any type
of a business that has that's a civil service, you're
going to see a lot of stuff generated, whether it
be the product or the money. And how do people
handle that. Do they handle it in a way to
say that, Wow, this is great and it's benefiting the people,

(44:31):
let's push for more of that. Or do they go
the other way and say, well, if I put a
little here in a little there in pockets, and we
create these other committees and these other groups, and then
that way we can get a little bit more money
over here, and we can put more money in and
get these people more money, and then that's how it's
going to be successful. Well, then they're already failing, you know,

(44:52):
because it's not really there for the people no more.
And it's just it's just the way of the world.
It's you look at any throughout time, you know, anything
that's ever been started, and it's usually started in a
good way, turns out to be bad just because the

(45:14):
human factor comes in right and most people want or
maybe they don't want it in the beginning, but usually
it ends up being part of it and part of
the grand scheme of it, and you know, it happens.
And I think that's a tough thing to fight because

(45:34):
you got to understand that, even myself, everybody has the
human side of them. And I think that's the battle.
That's why we're here, is to battle that. How do
we get past that as people and say that, you
know what, dang, maybe we really are to shoot what.
You know, everybody questions why you're here, and they just

(45:57):
want the basic answers, right what it was a guy
is if I'm here for Jesus and that, but then
you don't pay attention to all the teachings, and the
ones that do take it sometimes they take it overboard.
You know, if you're really here for each other, then
why do we keep on separating? If you're here for

(46:17):
each other, and you go, well, all the teachings of
God and of Jesus and you read the Bibles and
it's all about being here for each other, but then
we separate those and you got, well, if you're not
this and you're not that, and you won't do this
and don't give that. You started sending all these limitations
and stipulations. Then you drive yourself away from the meaning
again of why we're actually here. And every time you

(46:40):
try and study the reason why we're here, it all
comes out to the same thing. We're supposed to be
here for each other, love one another, love thy neighbor.
Do this, do that? I mean, it's all there, but
we're gonna, you know, ignore that stuff. Well I already do,
I kind of do you know, you really, why are

(47:01):
we even having to bring it up because we definitely
don't see it in the world today, and the little
bit that we see, people are trying to destroy it.
People are trying to tear it apart, you know. And
then we have this and I you know, it's hard

(47:22):
to say. I think in one you've got a lot
of people who like to show what they're doing. So,
you know, the soft music comes on. It's a you know,
girl singing real softly and little piano in the background,
and the guy showing with this camera up in the
air and facing himself and I'm giving money to the

(47:43):
homeless guy right here and here this is for you,
and look what I've done. And here's ten thousand dollars,
you know, And is it true. I don't know. I
don't know whether people walking around with five thousand dollars
in cash maybe that's true. I don't know. But the

(48:06):
minute we got to film ourselves doing it, well, who's
it really for? You know? Did you really give that
day bunny? Did they really help them take them off
the street? You know? Maybe they are. Who am I
to judge? I ain't judging the person for it. I
think if they really are doing that, that's great for

(48:26):
that person to help, they helped, and if that made
that person feel happy that they gave them ten grand
or whatever, they're doing good for them. But at the
same time, I think you're taking away from the purpose
of it. I see people help people every day. Without
one ounce, one ounce of vanity, you would never know

(48:52):
that they're out doing stuff and helping. You would never know.
So does that make it more valuable? Uh? Or that
they did more with their time, or that they really
meant it like you know. So it's so it's difficult.
It's a difficult thing to do. And also here's here's

(49:13):
something that's gonna grib you a little funny. Is do
we judge 'em for it? If I'm watching something on
YouTube uh, Facebook, uh TikTok or whatever, and somebody's giving
out some money and they're filming themselves doing it. And
I'm sitting here going, oh, look at that stupid person
out of it. Now I'm judging them for d trying
to do something good? Or do you just move on

(49:36):
with your day? That goes to say with a lot
of things, like the people uh that got problems with
people in their lifestyle, Well, I would like to think
that I kind of like, just do what you you know,
be you do what you want, do you live your
life and this and that, and then I come and

(49:57):
talk about it and my judging them now in my
orch I. You know, it's a battle. It's a daily battle.
How do you handle what other people do? Is it
that you're judging them? Now I'm not doing what I
should be doing. And then I say I don't want
to judge them, but I'm still talking about them. So,
you know, we find ourselves going round and round and

(50:18):
round in this world of trying to figure out what
people are doing with their lives and where you draw
the line. Dude. You know, we talk about wanting to
help other people and be there for them, what does
that really mean? What does it really mean? I mean,
you didn't pick any day. Walk out your door, and

(50:41):
I'll tell you there's probably like multiple things that are
going to run past your path and put you in
a position of what should I've done? That was right?
I saw the other day. I was on my way
to work and there was an accident, a kind of
motorcycleing down, and I must have got there right after
it happened. Somebody was there helping the guy, and I

(51:03):
had a choice to make. Either I could park behind
the car that I was in that lane, but I
would feel like, am I gonna runt out there and
be in the way? Am I going to help? I
looked to the left and a police officer just got
there and he was getting off his bike. He was
going to go over to help. So I'm like, okay,
police is here. They're going to call in the people

(51:24):
that really do help. Somebody's there with the guy. Okay.
At the same time, as I'm driving away, I'm thinking, oh, shoot,
I have all these lights on my truck. I could
have lit up the area to help out. And it
stuck with me for half the day. Man, I should
have helped, and at the same time, you can't do everything,

(51:50):
you can't dwell on it and all of a sudden
put yourself in a box and be like, man, now
I suck you know. So, like I said, there's a
lot of things that every day you're going to run across.
And how do you be there for other people? You know?
Like I said, some people don't have anybody, And sometimes

(52:11):
just a kind word, sometimes just a nice gesture, sometimes
just the you know, saying hey, I'm here. I don't
know how I can help you, but I'm here for you,
and sometimes that means a lot. So it really depends
on how you view your time and just give it

(52:34):
some thought. Like you know, this isn't a there's no test,
there's no right or wrong way, but it's just the
idea that we got to do better. We got to
do better all the things going on. If we all
start trying to do better, I think we can reach
a point to where things can start to take a turn.

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Think about it, if all you saw people talking about
helping each other, that would be a great term from
all these politics and from all the things that are bad.
See people right now videotaping themselves questioning when they're grabbing
people off the street, and everybody's starting to speak up,
you know, And that's when the people rise up and

(53:20):
fight for what's wrong. You didn't have laws all day
long that are made, but that doesn't mean that they're right.
Sometimes the only way things change is when people speak up,
and the people speak up for what's right and what's wrong,
then things will change. That's a good way of sticking together.
That's a good way of being there for each other,
showing love for one another. Is hey, something's not right,

(53:44):
speak up, say something. I don't want people out there
getting themselves in trouble. That's not what I'm here to do.
To promote that. But I am here to promote be
there for each other in one way or another, love
each other, show that we can do it. We can
be better people. We don't need to be. There's no challenge,
there's no who can be the rudest, who can be

(54:05):
the meanest goal, that's not that's not what we're here for.
And if if it's what you feel you're here for,
then you're in a different class, you know. But we
all know that somewhere along the line, you know, somewhere,
and even a person that's acting a certain way on

(54:27):
social media and maybe even somebody that you ran into
talking a certain way and you're going, man, do you
really feel that way? Is that really how you feel that?
In all reality, they probably don't. They probably have families
of their own and care about those closest to them.
It's just getting them to say it's okay to put

(54:50):
that wall down, to put that front down and say,
you know what, live your life. I'm not gonna I'm
gonna make sure my people are good. My family is good.
People around me. If that's all you care about, that
they're good, start leaving the people that don't matter to
you alone and let them live their lives and maybe

(55:11):
once in a while care about them. I mean, you know,
it's okay. Like I said, it's okay, it's okay to
put that wall down, and that that moment that you
give in to care about somebody else might actually affect
the ones we talked about in the beginning that are
going through that hard time, that hardship, that's something that
happened in their life, and then you walking around in

(55:35):
your day saying you know what, today I'm just going
to be like, hey, hope you have an wave, say hi,
open the door, help somebody through the troubles that they
might have been going through, that you had no idea about, that,
you didn't know that their life was in devastation right now.
That might get them through that moment in a positive

(55:59):
way and helped their day, help them through whatever they're
going through. And think about it, if we all kept
doing that and then slowly it would add up to
helping people you didn't even know about. You might not
even care, but to them it might mean the world

(56:19):
could change things. We see people that recently that went
and did the horrific thing and shot those children. You know,
we don't know exactly why and all that, but you know,
if this world, if we all, if we all cared

(56:39):
about each other a little bit more, it could have
changed it. I'm not gonna say it would have, but
you know, we don't know that. But if the world,
if we just cared a little bit more about each
other and helped each other a little bit out for
that one moment, that one moment that you didn't even
care about, this person could have changed that trajectory and

(57:01):
t and change the lives of many people. We don't know.
I'm not gonna assume but I'm gonna hope that that
that would have done something. So anyway, hey, this is
the show number four. I like to play music and
but I think this one was a little bit a
lot more so we're gonna add some stuff to it

(57:23):
and make it a little bit uh fun and hopefully
you took in something to day and enjoyed it. So
we're gonna look forward to the next show. Until then,
you guys, make sure to show love for one another
as always, take care of each other. It's okay, we
can do it and we'll talk to you next time.

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This is Jeff for with Love for one Another Podcast.
We will see you next time. Take care